general-chat

[dusk knot]

The last real movie

[hoary zodiac]

Insurrection is like

The final frontier

[dusk knot]

Ok

[hoary zodiac]

Although...

STV is a bit underrated

[hoary zodiac]

It's a very bad movie but it has a bit of charm

[fresh timber]

can somebody lend me $2000

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah it's a game changer because letting radeon catch up

[dusk knot]

What was that one about?

[fresh timber]

radeon has ALOT to catchup on

[hoary zodiac]

Shatner's Ego

[dusk knot]

Sigh…need a rewatch

[prisma mountain]

Aside from drivers, what impacts should I be on the lookout for when changing graphics cards?

[hoary zodiac]

They will certainly close the gap given how it's looking at the moment

[fresh timber]

fix rocm plz

❤️

[hoary zodiac]

they will

In time

From the leaks and news we've been getting it's not looking good for nvidia perf/$

[prisma mountain]

The parts for my new build will all be in before I get the GPU. So, I'm thinking about setting up the new build with my current graphics card. Then swapping out graphics card when I get a new one. Anything I should be on the lookout for?

[fresh timber]

ooo shoot

[fresh timber]

gaming performance?

[proud jackal]

is 5090 out yet

[fresh timber]

no

[hoary zodiac]

everything

[fresh timber]

its out on the 30th

[hoary zodiac]

Everything is going up

Remember this is looking like a stagnation gen

[fresh timber]

new dlss funna solo

[hoary zodiac]

If they stagnate Radeon is going to catch up

[fresh timber]

TWO nvenc encoders

[pliant berry]

INTEL WILL BE THE NEW GPU KING

[hoary zodiac]

If intel gets their software crap in order

[fresh timber]

OOO

[hoary zodiac]

They'll be throwing a better fight in the cpu and gpu market

[fresh timber]

intel needs to fix overhead issues

[hoary zodiac]

That's what I said yes

[fresh timber]

fix overhead problem and ill finally cave into intel gng and abondon amd

[hoary zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1116124164756099172/1327611013960433749/Intel-Core-Ultra-200S-Arrow-Lake-BIOS-Firmware-_1.png?ex=6785abdb&is=67845a5b&hm=47d29fdf059cba73a9c9dbd8889e2b45f10108f8da4d6a239b9d30f1b99d2ff6&

[fresh timber]

what shocks me is how the 5090 is going to be smaller

[atomic mist]

Intel wooooo too the moon 🚀

[fresh timber]

does it increase stock price

[hoary zodiac]

inb4 complains about intel drivers instead

[fresh timber]

i will

2nd pc goin get the intel card

funna save up for streaming pc for funny

[nocturne flicker]

Nobody said they had to go up to get to the moon. They could go down through the Earth to get there eventually

[fresh timber]

is it true theirs some models that use two 12v cables

[hoary zodiac]

12v?

12vhpwr?

[fresh timber]

yeah

[hoary zodiac]

Possible

[fresh timber]

what typa psu u need for two 12v

5090

[hoary zodiac]

🤨

[devout forum]

Oh man, I get how Facebook became irrelevant now

[hoary zodiac]

Facebook is clinging on

By a thread

[rancid juniper]

@dusk knot you available for marvel rivals tomorrow? sorry i couldn't do it today

[hoary zodiac]

They're a data company now rather than a social media company

[devout forum]

PCMR group is just
Chock full of nGreedAI shills calling anyone not liking how all the 50 series has going for it being MFG all sorts of names

[hoary zodiac]

There is Instagram

[devout forum]

It's genuinely sad

[dusk knot]

I think so. Wasn’t in the mood for it today

[rancid juniper]

alr

[hoary zodiac]

Do they use the usual "but... ray tracing... Nvenc... Productivity..." Cope

Most people don't even use those features

[opaque sedge]

Huh interesting on most of the pcmr posts i’ve seen people are not liking the ai crap

[devout forum]

Actually not
It's "You're just crying because you don't like bleeding edge tech" and like

[hoary zodiac]

bleeding edge

The only thing it's going to bleed is my wallet dry

[devout forum]

Heard it right

[fresh timber]

confused frfr

[devout forum]

The only edge you can find in the 50 series is the fan base lol

[fresh timber]

but they are valid reasons to buy nvidia

[devout forum]

The shills use NONE OF THEM tho

[fresh timber]

they use raytracing at most

[hoary zodiac]

Read what i said after

[fresh timber]

99% of people are fine on amd

[devout forum]

It's just ad hominem about how "you hate tech advancing" and "raster is irrelevant anyway"

[fresh timber]

i did, but it does contribute to the value of the graphics card

[hoary zodiac]

They are valid but the shills are making it seems like everyone needs those features

[hoary zodiac]

To a certain demographic

Not everyone

[fresh timber]

i dont think nvidia is going to sell cheaper gpus with those features stripped out anywyas

you pay for the entire feature set unfortuntly

[hoary zodiac]

A 14 year old using their gpu to play fortnite and minecraft might not care about ai and nvenc

[devout forum]

Guys I just told you
The shills COMPLETELY forgot about every valid reason and just do personal attacks now

[hoary zodiac]

That's not the point tho

[fresh timber]

to be fair fortnite likes nvidia more

my friend with a 4060 gets better stability than me

[hoary zodiac]

The point is that shills act like you MUST have those features even if you don't use them

[devout forum]

I think the stability being lacking isn't due to the GPU there

[hoary zodiac]

Still not the point

[devout forum]

The sad part is that they don't actually

[fresh timber]

and by stability i mean fps stability, needed to clairifiy

[hoary zodiac]

Have they devolved so much

[fresh timber]

i think your point is people shill nviida when they dont use their feature set

[devout forum]

None of the Facebook shills even MENTION any of the good reasons

[rancid juniper]

fortnite is never stable, almost on all systems

[hoary zodiac]

No

Not that

[fresh timber]

im still upset my friend manages hire fps than me

[hoary zodiac]

People act like those features are necessary for EVERYONE

[fresh timber]

o

[hoary zodiac]

When it's not

[rancid juniper]

run it at DX11 or perf mode

[hoary zodiac]

Feature sets are relative to use cases

[devout forum]

It's literally just "you're a fossil if you still don't use upscaling" and "if you could have your way we'd still use CRTs lol"

[hoary zodiac]

So they're telling people to buy more expensive nvidia gpus in a scenario where it's unnecessary to spend the extra $100-300

[fresh timber]

o trust me iv tried, my 1% lows are horrible, so i take the fps hit and go dx12 so my lows arent poop

[devout forum]

I can't believe it, nGreedAI marketing brainrot is real

[rancid juniper]

ok

[fresh timber]

fortnite is mad so bad

its sad

[devout forum]

Literal brainrot moment

[rancid juniper]

8x the frames
-8x the detail

Jensen Howard

[fresh timber]

AI is the money maker

[rancid juniper]

✅

[hoary zodiac]

It's funny how they've devolved beyond nvenc where they serve a real purpose

[fresh timber]

their stock price went up so much from ai that its ingraved into jenens soul

[devout forum]

Though I think I see why

[hoary zodiac]

NgreedAI wants that AI money

[devout forum]

Most people don't actually give a rip about quality of experience

[fresh timber]

its working too

[devout forum]

It's so hard to quantify

[fresh timber]

investors eat that stuff up

[hoary zodiac]

True

[devout forum]

But "380 FPS" is a great headline grabber

[hoary zodiac]

GeForce is like a status symbol

Like macbooks

Or iphones

[fresh timber]

ehh they got their uses

[rancid juniper]

paper ah launch from intel smh

[fresh timber]

and macbooks arnt really that bad value anymore

[hoary zodiac]

That's not the point

[rancid juniper]

where is the rest?

[fresh timber]

woah b750?

that is intresting me

[rancid juniper]

570*

[devout forum]

If you told someone "You can play at 60fps but you'll have amazing latency and it'll FEEL real"
Vs
You told someone "You get 360 fps"

Which do you think the average consumer will buy?

[hoary zodiac]

360fps*

[fresh timber]

how much latency at 360fps

🤔

cause honestly if its not much id choose 360 too

[devout forum]

"That's irrelevant, you GET 360fps!"

[fresh timber]

i want 360 persoanlly then

[devout forum]

That's the marketing pitch

[fresh timber]

60 sucks

[rancid juniper]

B70?

[devout forum]

FPS numbers are super easy to market

[hoary zodiac]

nooooooo

[devout forum]

They just sell

[rancid juniper]

what B70

[hoary zodiac]

Intel AI

[fresh timber]

b70

[hoary zodiac]

AIntel

[fresh timber]

i wanna get a b570 now

[hoary zodiac]

ok

[fresh timber]

how much we think it is

[devout forum]

AMD really needs to up their game with marketing

[hoary zodiac]

$70 would be cool

Nvenc destroyer

[fresh timber]

if its around $150 id lowkey buy it to test k

[hoary zodiac]

ok

[devout forum]

Now the 9070 and 9070 XT might unironically be really good

[rancid juniper]

It better not be the B570 but the 7 lineup

[hoary zodiac]

The leaks are looking really good

[devout forum]

We'll have to hope that the 50 series mostly flops but still

[hoary zodiac]

Even in RT

That's extremely funny

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah then they'll actually have to compete to get back their market share

[devout forum]

If the 50 series sells out in seconds, AMD can cook all it wants their stuff will still be burnt

[hoary zodiac]

Consumers can finally have something good

[rancid juniper]

the raster performance imo is impressive for the few cores it got against last gen

[fresh timber]

b570

opoo

common intel

[rancid juniper]

price legit bugs me still

[hoary zodiac]

Weren't you talking about how bad the overhead issues were like half an hour ago

[fresh timber]

just beat my gpu and il buy

[fresh timber]

I wont have that issue

[hoary zodiac]

ok

[fresh timber]

we need a 7700xt killer

do it intel

beat my gpu

[hoary zodiac]

they will

In a couple years

[fresh timber]

miud

back to ngredia

😦

ill see yall in 5 years

[hoary zodiac]

ok

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[fresh timber]

oo

[hoary zodiac]

memory clock 19Gbps

That's not the clock speed

[fresh timber]

intel just neesd to give us an a310 replacment

people in r/homelab discord are upset

a310 was the top gpu people used for transcoding and basic output

[hoary zodiac]

Shouldn't the overhead issues of the b570 be less prominent in transcode?

[fresh timber]

their will be no overhead issue

the overhead issue is just in gaming not transcoding

unless they somehow messup and make their transcoding cpu dependent some how

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/vx4oUCrYxGM?si=SsrW2he2-BrVS0q_ beautiful

that is such a smooth transition lmfao

[fresh timber]

A310 is really good for $100, you get a 1 slot card and an encoder that rivals or is faster than a 4090

[rancid juniper]

na id buy for <$50

[fresh timber]

perfecft for ur little jellyfin server or streaming

[devout forum]

You can't make this up

[fresh timber]

you prob could used

[devout forum]

It's so utterly dumb that people STILL fall for this marketing

[rancid juniper]

i cannot buy for 50

[fresh timber]

if ai gets so good that u cant tell its fake frames i will buy it

[rancid juniper]

😡

[fresh timber]

yeah its alot of demand right now

[hoary zodiac]

from japan

[fresh timber]

the sparkle low profile one is the only one worth getting

[rancid juniper]

literally the only things on sale (ebay)

[fresh timber]

not the same

[devout forum]

But considering that the frogs don't try to jump out the water until it's boiling it's not surprising

[hoary zodiac]

Amazon doesn't look too bad

At least for msrp new cards

[fresh timber]

the a310 sparkle being 1 slot is whats appealing to people

[hoary zodiac]

Wait

THAT'S THE A380

👀

[fresh timber]

yeah

too fat

[hoary zodiac]

Nah I don't care

[rancid juniper]

much better

[hoary zodiac]

Nvenc killer

[fresh timber]

if u have the room for it

yuh

wha

another transcoding gpu

woudlnt game on it

[hoary zodiac]

That's relative TPU

[fresh timber]

yuh

whats wrong with realtive

[hoary zodiac]

It's relative

[fresh timber]

yuh??

eloborate what the problem is

[hoary zodiac]

It's relative to the game

[fresh timber]

duh

i was checking gaming performance

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

So this would be a terrible metric

[fresh timber]

thus i said, another encoding gpu cause gaming is meh

[hoary zodiac]

Performance is relative to the game

[fresh timber]

okay??

I wanted to know its gaming performance

not that it matters

[hoary zodiac]

It's different for every game

[fresh timber]

cool

idc

ooo

single slot one

[hoary zodiac]

I'd say the a580 can perform better than those figures

[fresh timber]

cool

its very good for comparing gpus to each other so im happy with that

if i wanna go deeper ill look up a youtube video

[devout forum]

It really isn't

[hoary zodiac]

Userbenchmark moment

[fresh timber]

ubm is a crime

[devout forum]

It's good to compare GPUs in a specific game unless they base that percentage off of a large database of game FPS

But then weighing comes to mind

[fresh timber]

i ❤️ passmark

[fresh timber]

darn no more a380 on sale

intel realy paused them

brain stopped working

i ment that matrox luma one

[velvet summit]

i forgot that ugreen made a nas

i saw it when it was on kickstarter or whatever

and then promptly forgot about it completely

oh it's been like like 10 months

[hoary zodiac]

I like Ugreen but I wouldn't trust them for data

They make good cables

But nah

I'd trust Orico a bit more

But only for enclosures

Not a full on nas

[wise wigeon]

damn i would like a standing desk with same dimensions of my current desk but at like half the price its like 90% there

[velvet summit]

buy motorized desk legs and diy desk top

[hoary zodiac]

Shenanigans

[velvet summit]

truenas also has a first party nas solution but it's worse

at least for their mini line

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine being worse than a chinese company

[velvet summit]

they use some intel atom cpu for their mini line

so.... not great

[hoary zodiac]

👀

[velvet summit]

especially when it costs more than the ugreen options

[hoary zodiac]

Meanwhile I'm coping with a 32 bit cpu and 512mb of ram

It somehow runs OMV

No ZFS but eh

[velvet summit]

6 drive ugreen is like 1.1k? 6 drive truenas mini is like 1.4k

[hoary zodiac]

1.1k USD?

Oh I thought they'd be way cheaper

Hmm

[velvet summit]

but for that price you can get a custom enclosure and new parts

both are diskless so you have you buy your own disks

[hoary zodiac]

You can get an entire case

[velvet summit]

yes

ugreen's case looks like

[hoary zodiac]

With HDDs

[velvet summit]

well, ugreen asethetics, so somewhat apple-esk

[hoary zodiac]

Probably Synology competition

Standalone nas are always mid imo

There's also HP Microservers

The old ones are decent for just running a small storage unit

I kinda want to get my hands on one

[velvet summit]

problem with old servers with their old cpus is the performance per watt

[hoary zodiac]

True

N100 server boards are actually decently priced

Same with am4 tbh

B450s actually aren't too expensive

[fresh timber]

Ugh

[patent lava]

Does Newegg refund shipping cost? I ordered and paid $40 for next day delivery on Thursday night and did expedite processing time. I was expecting it on Satursday but now it is coming in the morning (Monday).

It is not fair I had to pay so much money when I should had gotten a cheaper option that delivered on Monday which is less than $20

[mortal grail]

You'd have to ask them

However no online shop I've been to has refunded shipping (I can't use newegg to shop from overseas it's too expensive)

If they say they can't then I wouldn't be too surprised. None of us here work for newegg

[patent lava]

I see

[mortal grail]

It happens. It sucks, I've been in that boat before, but I like to think that the normal shipping probably would've landed tuesday lol

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah I always pay for regular shipping

I don't trust couriers to deliver by the date listed

[stark yew]

Does anyone know any coupon code I can use for a 1400$+ ABS pc on newegg?

[patent lava]

I should had select reasonable shipping method. So my fault.

[hoary zodiac]

No

It's the services' fault

Expedited shipping should be expedited but they can be pretty bad

That's why I usually avoid them

Not the fault of the consumer

Fault of a crappy courier network

[patent lava]

I see

[remote geode]

the arcade did not activate the arcade machine

[proud jackal]

[craggy shoal]

My friend got a 9900X that he just got swapped in and suddenly I’m in a Cinebench R23 war with him (I have a 7900X. Wish me luck guys)

[mortal grail]

GG losing

[pliant berry]

Time to bring out the test bench and the ln2

[craggy shoal]

Currently losing. I haven't tried much but he's currently at ~33000 and I’m about 5000 off of that 🫠

[pliant berry]

Yikes

[craggy shoal]

I know I can do more though. I’ve seen this thing hit 30K with just PBO. Idk how high of a clock it can hit though

I’ve only done an undervolt and barely any Windows optimizations

[fresh timber]

L 2

Grab liquid nitrogen

[mortal grail]

R 2

[craggy shoal]

Over I can get to 30K just by optimizing Windows. ATP I'll OC

[fresh timber]

Make a 2nd install right

Custom iso with nothing installed

Not even wallpaper

[fresh timber]

I just realized my 13600kf is only 4k behind you

[proud jackal]

https://youtu.be/0_dyqyO6QDw?si=LlCiyrDJkIndCw4n

[craggy shoal]

Yeah I just close WP Engine. I forgot to close Armoury Crate when I ran it last

[mortal grail]

More like crate of performance loss

[fresh timber]

A decorated install would do more good

[craggy shoal]

Yeah exactly 💀

Linux can't run on Cinebench, can it?

[mortal grail]

Safe mode can

Wait I never said that

[craggy shoal]

Hmmmm

I might try that and see how that goes lol

[fresh timber]

Do safe mode

Lollllll

[fresh timber]

Photoshop your score

[craggy shoal]

This mf 💀

Imma actually try safe mode and see what happens lollll

[fresh timber]

Same

I need to bump my e cores a bit and I’ll prob get closer

[mortal grail]

I don't think benchmate works

But normal cb23 does

[fresh timber]

All the xoc in hwbot use it

[mortal grail]

Ik

[craggy shoal]

It's over for him when I destroy this 7900X and slap back in my 13700K (yeah still need to do this. Lazy)

[mortal grail]

He said cinebench not benchmate

Lol

[fresh timber]

You will
Win

[misty sparrow]

And then you can send them this image with the message “I win”

[fresh timber]

I know a guy with. 32 cores

[craggy shoal]

I want 32 cores. I won't have to upgrade for another few years lol

Motherboard would be more outdated than the CPU atp lmaoo

lol somebody just tried spamming the whole server and just got his message deleted due to swearing

[fresh timber]

I just want a 9950x3 d

[craggy shoal]

Same

[misty sparrow]

There was an attempt

[fresh timber]

And a 9950x for my server

[craggy shoal]

I would win this Cinebench war if I had a 9950X3D for sure

Gonna be my birthday gift

[fresh timber]

Don’t make me buy a 14900k

[craggy shoal]

Just don't honestly 💀

[misty sparrow]

Would you like your PC to combust?

[fresh timber]

I need cinebench score

[craggy shoal]

We're all in a Cinebench war now lol

[fresh timber]

I need a better cpu cooler if I want to join you further

[craggy shoal]

What do you have now?

[fresh timber]

Mhhh

Windows 10 might be the play

This dude got 36k

[fresh timber]

Ls720 se Russia addition

[craggy shoal]

He's also at 1.723 volts 💀💀💀💀

[fresh timber]

And 0c

Just get good

[craggy shoal]

This guy is at 0°C 💀

[fresh timber]

Me or LeBron

[craggy shoal]

LeBron

[fresh timber]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1213500141038862346/1328355862435336213/v15044gf0000cqe218nog65rtbmuqda0.mov?ex=6786674d&is=678515cd&hm=ea6f97fa84b2142aff1e1bed713bfc6340792fb213be14a2f3539b563a965518&

[velvet summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809840106478502011/1328348085683748945/RDT_20250112_2328325823902430947060465.jpg?ex=6786600f&is=67850e8f&hm=d452469f0de436c083dd477c51fdca168043d19af6b00f0fe48b79a352978b8c&

[devout forum]

I can 100% understand that pain

one of those yellow-black mfers would actually just unironically kill me

[velvet summit]

Lmao

To be fair

Bees are friendly

But they look too similar to wasps

Which aren't friendly

[sinful blade]

Skill issue tbh

[velvet summit]

If I see something black and yellow, I'm gonna be startled

Until I see if it's a honeybee or not

[sinful blade]

I cannot stand insects

[velvet summit]

If it's a bee, we're chill

Wasps, gtfo

[sinful blade]

If I hear an insect like a gnat or fly, I will not stop until it is dead

I will inconvenience myself to kill it

[devout forum]

I'm normally just gonna IGNORE the guy

Worked every time thus far

Blergh

But yes
If you freak out and start trying to fight them they get scared and sting you

[velvet summit]

I just run faster away then they can sting me

I'll be like a looney tunes character

https://tenor.com/view/the-bugs-bunny-and-roadrunner-movie-the-bugs-bunny-and-road-runner-movie-road-runner-roadrunner-gif-11247078020177937150

[dusk knot]

Kill it

Or catch it

[velvet summit]

Don't kill bees, kill wasps and hornets

Especially invasive ones

Bees are at risk of endangerment because of wasps and hornets

Wild bees specifically

Honeybees are fairly prosperous due to them being kept safe by competent beekeepers

[elfin mural]

LG already has 4 layer oled

Jesus

LG leading the oled market even more

[dusk knot]

Not bees yeah

But everything else has to go

[dusk knot]

Yes…it’ll be brighter with better contrast

[elfin mural]

Supposedly lower cost of manufacturing

[dusk knot]

So they say

Can’t trust any of these companies

[elfin mural]

lol

They'll just advertise it as newer tech (which is valid), then charge us more

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/yeston-reveals-geforce-rtx-50-sakura-and-sakura-atlantis-gpus

[tranquil pebble]

Radeon Instinct MI50 is going to be a fun toy

[velvet summit]

it continues to go up

@mortal grail how does this make you feel

i honestly wonder if it will stop going up

will windows force my pc to restart first (from an update or crashing) or would it stop going up

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-jotaro-kujo-jojos-gif-7297252

[craggy shoal]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-reviews-go-live-january-24-rtx-5080-on-january-30

[rancid juniper]

😂

[dusk knot]

Good good

[tranquil pebble]

convinced someone that a cheap VA panel is bad for gaming. They are getting IPS now.

Now they wont get crap blurring across the screen

[fresh timber]

cheap va

i love va

as a 2nd monitor

[tranquil pebble]

VA CAN be good, but its usually bad

[dusk knot]

Now convince someone that ips is bad for gaming and make them get OLED

😏

[tranquil pebble]

They were looking for $300 monitors

OLED is way out of budget

[fresh timber]

used oled ez

ez

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/noo-toy-story-buzz-lightyear-gif-14664723

[proud jackal]

[craggy shoal]

I don't think I could go with a used screen tbh

[fresh timber]

if i got a used good condition oled for $300 id be happy

[tranquil pebble]

in any case I dont want someone else experiencing what I dealt with on a cheap VA gaming monitor

it was absolutely terrible

[fresh timber]

iv delt with ultrawide va

still won my matches

skill trumps all monitors

[craggy shoal]

I still want an ultrawide idc if it's not good for competitive games

[tranquil pebble]

yes but I prefer my monitors to not cause headaches from the blurring

[rancid juniper]

va moment

[tranquil pebble]

I will stick with IPS or OLED for now lol

[tranquil pebble]

Except if the monitor dies

[fresh timber]

Stick to audio

[dusk knot]

OLED

[rancid juniper]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-blasts-bidens-new-ai-restrictions-as-misguided-gpu-giant-praises-trumps-hands-off-approach-to-tech-industry

interesting

[craggy shoal]

Politicians mentioned. Too political
||(this is a joke)||

[rancid juniper]

[dusk knot]

Banned

[mortal grail]

AMD GPU reveal 15th

[rancid juniper]

😳

[craggy shoal]

Source? :0

[tranquil pebble]

these numbers tell me that 1080p is still the only way to game without taking out a loan

[mortal grail]

It was on one of the articles I read earlier

It's supposedly 15th but a lot of stuff post-CES has been really consistent

So I'm kind of inclined to just believe it lol

[craggy shoal]

oh nice

[mortal grail]

Especially when they're saying it releases "In a matter of weeks"

Lol

[rancid juniper]

💯

[tranquil pebble]

well, unless you use upscaling

but framegen can rot in most cases

[fresh timber]

I love upscaling

Free fps

[rancid juniper]

Framegen still got long ways to go

[fresh timber]

When it doesn’t feel mushy is when I’ll like it

[craggy shoal]

ngl though I won't mind DLSS 4 as long as it'll actually look good

(again, I'm waiting for the reviews)

(and yes I would prefer raw performance so don't yell at me lol)

[dusk knot]

Frames are frames if it’s indistinguishable from the real thing

[craggy shoal]

yeah exactly

[rancid juniper]

Yea

[craggy shoal]

ngl though atp what's even the point of having a high-end rig if even the bottom end can do 200+ fps

[rancid juniper]

I'd only ever use upscaling or framegen if I "want" to try out features like RT

[safe cape]

1080p 🗿

[rancid juniper]

For games running like garbage I'd refund

[craggy shoal]

1080p doesn't look good to me

[rancid juniper]

1440p messed me up

[craggy shoal]

24" isn't good enough and 27" 1080p is disgusting

[rancid juniper]

Can't play 1080p games anymore 😔

[mortal grail]

1080p looks like 2073600 to me

[craggy shoal]

Oh no it Donny

[mortal grail]

Oh no

[craggy shoal]

motor

[rancid juniper]

Silicon loitering

[craggy shoal]

Silicon loitering

[mortal grail]

Theo on launch day

[craggy shoal]

(or just optimize the games so we don't have to have AI handle the frames for us) <- the actual solution

[craggy shoal]

Proxmox client on your phone? What app is this?

I need

ProxMate found it

[tranquil pebble]

some jerk somewhere is probably thinking about how to sell optimization as a DLC

[rancid juniper]

-EA

[dusk knot]

Lmaooooo

Scummy

[tranquil pebble]

if anyone does that, they deserve to be exiled from the industry

[rancid juniper]

exiled from any business

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/60fps-knee-slapper-spongebob-milkcord-gif-27449345

[craggy shoal]

somebody interpolated that gif

[rancid juniper]

wow what a smooth gif

[craggy shoal]

I need a good program that just interpolates so I can make some gifs like that

it almost looks 3D wtf

[tranquil pebble]

I love interpolated animations

[fresh timber]

No stealing

Can u access it when ur not home

[craggy shoal]

yeah

[tranquil pebble]

How to scare Windows fanboys: show them a penguin

[craggy shoal]

yeah just take up 45% of my memory

I need more memory 🫠

About to start memory maxxing

[fresh timber]

I need 64Gb

[craggy shoal]

I need more than that

(I actually don't but I want at least 128GB just to flex)

[honest birch]

Finally got 9800X3D for msrp

[rancid juniper]

congrats

[tranquil pebble]

mine is coming next month

also have an MI50 on the way

MI50 is basically like exotic Vega II variant

[honest birch]

Sold my 7800X3D + my pc service to someone for $360

[tranquil pebble]

what is that pink stuff

thermal paste?

[craggy shoal]

yes

Kryonaut I believe

[tranquil pebble]

I have never seen pink paste before

[mortal grail]

Oh no kryo extreme

Haha

[craggy shoal]

Oh no

[mortal grail]

It Donny

[tranquil pebble]

Yuyuko paste

[mortal grail]

Basically MX-6 but like a 4 month use life

[tranquil pebble]

so hot garbage then

if paste cant even make it to the 1 year mark thats kinda sad

[mortal grail]

So basically anything not conductonaut then lol

[rancid juniper]

worlds strongest ram

[honest birch]

Kryonaut extreme

[honest birch]

It's lasted way longer than that

I had it on my 7800X3D since I had it was still wet and well spread

[mortal grail]

I used to have a tub of it

[honest birch]

Oh I just get tubes

New one every few times

[mortal grail]

I have a lot of experience with TG stuff lol

Extreme is intended for sub zero

[honest birch]

I've been using it since I've built all my pcs

And thermalright paste

[mortal grail]

Thermal performance is worse in ambient by design typically

[honest birch]

Yeah but that's fine I was pulling 160w with my 9800X3D and didn't even go over 70C, full load

1hr test

[mortal grail]

Get basically the same results on my own 9800X3D on MX6

Highly recommend arctic, $6 a tube lol

[honest birch]

I paid $11 for this

So not bad really

I'll make it back in minutes lol

[icy ore]

[craggy shoal]

jank asf

[icy ore]

Careful with thermaltake smart lol

[fresh timber]

My serve

It’s super good

Best cpu in the world

[craggy shoal]

the 2300X? 💀

[fresh timber]

Yes

[craggy shoal]

lmao

[mortal grail]

https://youtu.be/vS1lIa6ZdMM

[craggy shoal]

My serve

[fresh timber]

Chat

5500 upgrade?

[craggy shoal]

Get a 5600G and take the GPU out so you can cool down your room

What GPU is that?

[fresh timber]

No

[craggy shoal]

:0

[fresh timber]

Igpu pass through is jank asf

[craggy shoal]

oh gotcha

need
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozaKDyT9pZI

[fresh timber]

I want

But poor

I only have $600

Waiting for new gpu to drop frfr

[rancid juniper]

lol 🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢

[fresh timber]

I’m never buying that

Ima buy the legion go 2

[craggy shoal]

I have no need for either I have a Legion 5i

[fresh timber]

Ima buy a Mac book pro

[craggy shoal]

I'm gonna do that when the trade-in is available for my MBA M3

(Not available yet and it's annoying asf)

I really want one of these
https://nascompares.com/news/the-minisforum-ms-a2-workstation-revealed-at-ces-2025/

^^ this is at the top of my list. Might be an early adopter for it tbh

[honest birch]

9600X for $160.....

The new 7500F

Lmao

[fresh timber]

Give me MacBook Pro

I’m only $1000 off

[craggy shoal]

lmaooo

Just get a MBA

[fresh timber]

Mid

Need the 120hz display

[craggy shoal]

lol

Either MBP for me or MBA next year if they put the M4 in it

and they already stopped selling the 8GB versions so I don't even have to worry about that now

thank the lord

The fact that this thing can fit a 9950X in it wtf
https://store.minisforum.com/products/minisforum-ms-a1?variant=46168812224757

[fresh timber]

Ima go for the 16gb Mac book pro

Video editing funna be dope with it

[craggy shoal]

It's always for editing videos I guess lol

[dusk knot]

What’s the resale value of a 5800x3d?

[craggy shoal]

I'll buy it off of you for a happy meal

[honest birch]

Around 200 id say

[dusk knot]

[honest birch]

5700X3D can be had for less than that even almost same performance

So might be generous

Though

Im sure you can get someone to pay more

As is usually the case

[fresh timber]

Ssd

[craggy shoal]

If "you vs two of her exes" were SSDs

[honest birch]

Still coping on 4x8 ddr4 I see

[fresh timber]

Didn’t feel like buying ddr5

I got 1440p instead

I wish I got oled

I’m Davin

[honest birch]

My oled mogs

[craggy shoal]

This guy's name is Davin

[honest birch]

Lcd looks so bad now

[fresh timber]

Storage

[dusk knot]

HDD

[craggy shoal]

He'd

[dusk knot]

💀

[craggy shoal]

bruh

[rancid juniper]

he he'd

[fresh timber]

What’s wrong with hdds for mass storage?

[craggy shoal]

nothing at all

[dusk knot]

Sllow

[craggy shoal]

(Guys this is his server speed doesn't matter)

[dusk knot]

Hit it and they die

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/what-mj-michael-jackson-pout-gif-16929217

[craggy shoal]

I personally wouldn't use Barracudas for a server though

WD Red >>>>>

[fresh timber]

I can saturate it to

[dusk knot]

HE HEEEE

[rancid juniper]

michael jackson if he went into pc building

[fresh timber]

My connection is too slow to even use all the hdd

[dusk knot]

Rip the king of pop

😔

[mortal grail]

H DEE DEE

[fresh timber]

Ima get a bunch of hdds in like taid 10 on gigabit and it would be funny

The gpu restricts my 10gig adventures smh

[dusk knot]

Resell value on 5800x3d?

🤔

[mortal grail]

5800 x 3 dents cents

[dusk knot]

This can’t be

[mortal grail]

It's basically a 7600

So joke aside I'm being a little optimistic lmao

[dusk knot]

So you don’t know

[mortal grail]

You should look online for completed sales

[dusk knot]

removes techie

[mortal grail]

No it'll be somewhere around there depending who's buying

[dusk knot]

Hmmmm

[mortal grail]

Cos it literally is equal to a 7600 in almost everything

[dusk knot]

The whole world is America. There should only be one price

[mortal grail]

If only

Instead I'm underworld america and 5090's are 2800 usd

[fresh timber]

5700x3d

i would lowkey swap my server to my main gaming rig if i got a 5700x3d in it

5700x3d beats my 13600kf for gaming

but my pc has a 3000x better motherboard

[dusk knot]

Seems like 250 dollars will do

[mortal grail]

Guess it gets that premium like strix cards get

Lol

[dusk knot]

It’s a legendary CPU

The price will do

[craggy shoal]

But does it perform like a $250 CPU?

[mortal grail]

What you gonna do after you sell it

[mortal grail]

Not really no

💀

[dusk knot]

Drugs

[mortal grail]

Nice

[craggy shoal]

mood

[dusk knot]

Actually put the money for a micro center AMD Bundle

[mortal grail]

Micro center sells drugs?

[dusk knot]

Because I might get a 5080/ti in the future

[fresh timber]

mjh

resisit vex

[mortal grail]

mjh

[fresh timber]

resist 5700x3d server

5700x3d is low power right

[craggy shoal]

mjh

[fresh timber]

i max my mothreboard can do is like 65w kek

[mortal grail]

Michael Jackson HDEEDEE

[fresh timber]

ahEEHEE

[mortal grail]

112W-ish

[craggy shoal]

HeEHEEe

[fresh timber]

can u eco pbo it

[devout forum]

NGL

[fresh timber]

idk why im looking into this

[craggy shoal]

105W TDP on the 5700X3D. No thanks for me

[fresh timber]

am i really looking for an excuse to spend money

[mortal grail]

I am(d) actually not sure if you can adjust ppt tbh

You can on 7000+

[fresh timber]

yuh

[devout forum]

I'm really hopeful that the 50 series flops after people panic sell their GPUs so I can nab a cool upgrade

[dusk knot]

That’s not bad

[fresh timber]

ima just put a 5500 in my server kek

its within the motherboards vrm capabilitys

now ill have a 2300x to sell

[mortal grail]

If you're expecting a flop it won't happen

[fresh timber]

its still going to sell like crazy

people wont care if its not the best value or not

[mortal grail]

You overestimate the intelligence of the public

[fresh timber]

yeah

tbh i want one for the 50 branding

[devout forum]

I just want discounted 40 series stuff
4080 or 4090

[dusk knot]

Sold out…..

[fresh timber]

imagine 5080 in taskmanager,

[devout forum]

It'd unironically set me up for years

[fresh timber]

unironicly i want a 9800x3d ❤️

i need money for it

[devout forum]

Like I doubt I'd ever need anything more than a 4080

[dusk knot]

Not with how bad games are

You have less than 2 years lol

[devout forum]

@dusk knot

[craggy shoal]

Then use your 13600KF(?) as your server CPU

[devout forum]

1440p be like

[fresh timber]

thats the plan

kek

[dusk knot]

1440p is starting to struggle

We’re not safe

[fresh timber]

just need like

[devout forum]

I'm highly unlikely to move to 4k anytime soon
Get a 1440p QD-OLED and profit

[fresh timber]

$2000

[fresh timber]

i want a gpu that can run 4k 240hz

[dusk knot]

4k is not worth it

I’m good

[fresh timber]

4k scales better

[craggy shoal]

I wanna swap in my 13700K back into my PC and use my 7900X as a server CPU but that 170W just doesn't seem worth it 🙃

[mortal grail]

Eggs scale well tbh

[fresh timber]

1440p is werid when scaling with 1080p

[devout forum]

But yeah I'd just settle for 1440p and enjoy the OLED blacks

[mortal grail]

Egg

[craggy shoal]

Egg

[devout forum]

Just don't use scaling and render in native 1440p

[fresh timber]

7900x would be the better cpu for server cause E cores arnt excatly nice with proxmox

[devout forum]

Ez

Or have a second monitor at 1080p 160hz

[fresh timber]

kek i run my 1080p 27 inch at "1440p" just so it lines up

[devout forum]

Which I almost surely will

I WILL have a baller rig

I have a job, I can save up, a good deal WILL come on a used 4080/90, I WILL get it all together

[craggy shoal]

True but this thing idles at like 45-70W and I just don't want that. Maybe Proxmox would treat that power draw better? idk but I still feel like I'd have to watercool that server too and I don't feel like spending more on another AIO. It would be a hot server for me

[fresh timber]

gib me 5090 and a 27 inch 4k display

[fresh timber]

proxmox doesnt seem to handel e cores as well as it could

[craggy shoal]

I guess some motherboards (including mine) have a TDP limit though. Maybe good for a server? idk. @mortal grail what do you think?

[fresh timber]

u can tune ur cpu to use less if u want to

[mortal grail]

I think I'm hungry tbh

[craggy shoal]

yeah I'm having lunch

[mortal grail]

Let's reorganise 3 more lunch meetings to discuss this

[devout forum]

No self-respecting person would pay a premium to buy a SMALLER 4k screen
Get a 32 inch one like the good folks do

[craggy shoal]

understandable Felix have a good midnight snack

[mental raven]

where on earth do I get some help from? Just noticed an error in the product description on something I just ordered. I need to know which description is right .

[craggy shoal]

Newegg customer support(?)

[mortal grail]

I mean if I can see it I'll pass it on

[devout forum]

I'm gonna have the rig I seek

[craggy shoal]

DM @ neweggservice

[fresh timber]

i bought 5090, im going overkill on my display, smaller 4k display 👅

[devout forum]

I'll finally be satisfied with my PC and post it proudly

It's going to happen
I can feel it

[shy pond]

Anyone know a good budget monitor?

[mortal grail]

Koorui 24e3

Since you didn't list a budget

[craggy shoal]

Any of them tbh just make sure it's IPS, whatever resolution and refresh rate you want

[fresh timber]

i wanna have a cpu bottleneck with a 5090

5090 13600kf

[shy pond]

£100 ish?

[craggy shoal]

1080p 144Hz IPS just pick one

[mortal grail]

Ok uk it's definitely 24E3

Or G24F 2

[fresh timber]

man i rmemeber when u couldnt even get a decent display for $100

[mortal grail]

This is way better but 120 quid @shy pond

[craggy shoal]

The 1080p 165Hz on my desk rn was $279.99 when I got it 🫠

[fresh timber]

i want

[shy pond]

Thank you

[mental raven]

hope they can get to this quick I need to know before the order ships lol

[mortal grail]

Send link

[fresh timber]

my 1080p 27inch 165hz cost $200 my 1440p 240hz is $100 more

[mortal grail]

I said I'd tell you which is real

Lol

[craggy shoal]

This poor guy at 1080p 27"

[fresh timber]

As 2nd display it’s good

My discord display

[mental raven]

i will have to send you a DM because is on the order not on the page

[mortal grail]

Ok add me

Send both page and order

[cedar compass]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/904073551957614703/1003165002196340786/hattip-resize.gif

[craggy shoal]

Lowkey want a curved 27" 1440p display to mount it vertically and use it strictly for Discord

lol

[sweet phoenix]

For 4k this isnt horrid

Still though, if you've got 5090 money you have 9800x3d money. Otherwise the 5090 is just a waste of money

[velvet summit]

curved 27" vertical monitor???

[craggy shoal]

yeah

curved vertical is actually surprisingly nice

it's like curved horizontal if you go wide enough

[devout forum]

Would you say that for 1440p the 9800X3D is necessary with something like a 4080?

Or potentially a 7700X would pass by for the time being

Since I really have to scrape money together and hunt for deals when I get to it

[craggy shoal]

Yes

[devout forum]

Goddammit

[craggy shoal]

1440p for a 4080 regardless

[devout forum]

That complicates things

The idea was to get the 4080 and use the 7700X until I can secure a 9800X3D at which point my sister can inherit the 7700X with something like a 6800XT

[sweet phoenix]

Nah

[craggy shoal]

oh I misread the question

bruh

[sweet phoenix]

7600x will limit it, but its still fine for an xtx/4080

[devout forum]

Lmao

[craggy shoal]

yeah I was about to say that CPU

[devout forum]

It's fine Motor

[sweet phoenix]

7800x3d would be ideal though

[craggy shoal]

Even like higher-end 5000 series (like 8+ cores)

[sweet phoenix]

Well

[devout forum]

Is the loss really significant?

[sweet phoenix]

Any x3d really

[devout forum]

Or maybe like less than 20%

[sweet phoenix]

Id say ~10% on average

In some games more, in others less

[devout forum]

I'm fine enough with that on a largely temporary basis

[sweet phoenix]

Especially considering you can just drop a new cpu in later, it makes sense

[devout forum]

I will upgrade to a 9800X3D when I can secure one at a reasonable price dw

I just want to get myself up and running

[sweet phoenix]

7700x/4080 makes complete sense

Swapping to x3d just switches what's being limited

[devout forum]

48 gigs of 6400 to go along with it

[sweet phoenix]

I need a new cpu when I'm employed, because intel is intel

[devout forum]

Though I'm not sure 6400 is actually a measurable gain over 6000

[sweet phoenix]

I updated bios, have an undervolt, and I disabled e cores and marvel rivals is still crashing

[devout forum]

Oof

[sweet phoenix]

And my pc still freezes randomly when I alt tab in various games

[devout forum]

Rip

[sweet phoenix]

Intel things

[devout forum]

@sweet phoenix is there any on a 9800X3D?

[sweet phoenix]

I should be starting a new job this month, if not feb

[sweet phoenix]

Hm?

[devout forum]

I know 9000 series can actually go above 6000 reliably but is there a point to doing so?

[sweet phoenix]

Oh 6400mhz is stable on 7000 series

I'm sure 9000 series can do 6400-6800

[devout forum]

Or just stick to 6000 CL30

At 48gb ofc

That was my plan

Though it still feels weird that it's not a multiple of 8

[mortal grail]

It

It is

[devout forum]

Damn sorry man my brain is fried

I meant that it not like
In the 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 line

Whatever you call it

[mortal grail]

Well go back to DDR3 days and they had 3 sticks of ram at times

12GB systems weren't uncommon lol

[devout forum]

Lel

It's just unusual

But yeah 48 gigs is just rad

It'd probably be enough for quite a while

[velvet summit]

seems like steam's video recording doesnt work on vr lmao

i was hoping that it did so that i could just send my like 10fps rally

that was terrible

though surprisingly didnt make me motion sick since it was consistently a slideshow lmao

[sweet phoenix]

I'm currently running 32gb on ddr5- 24gb+8gb

[dusk knot]

Hmm... depression

[proud jackal]

5090 will fix that

[dusk knot]

BUY ME ONE TOO

[craggy shoal]

:what:

[dusk knot]

Akamwjwjsjwie9

[craggy shoal]

yyeah

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/tense-table-smash-mad-gif-13656077

[proud jackal]

@rigid sinew pls reserve one for me

[dusk knot]

She will

[rigid sinew]

Not

[craggy shoal]

rip

[dusk knot]

Rip, Theo

I totally don’t want a 5090

[proud jackal]

Why do you hate me

[rigid sinew]

i dont even know what im reserving

[dusk knot]

5090 astral

By ASUS ™️

[deep parcel]

@storm narwhal

It’s crazy that they used THE image

[fresh timber]

Egg

Please sponsor me, I average 1 viewers and would like to advertise a 5090 frfr, 100% won’t run away with it

[craggy shoal]

Wegg sponsor me instead I have one viewer and that’s my gf (more reliable viewer) I can make bot viewers so I can have more viewers if needed

Need 5090 first and then I'll make content

trust

[sinful blade]

I am definitely their 1 viewer, can definitely vouch

(Give me your 5090)

[fresh timber]

Car or 5090

[dusk knot]

Car

But not a $2000 car

That's trash

[idle nexus]

I'll do beta testing/OC for 5090 npnp

[rigid sinew]

ok

ask theo first

[idle nexus]

lol I've been top 10 in hwbot Enthusiast league since 2021

I'm basically an expert

kinda

ish

or maybe 2022... I think 2021 I was still in rookie league

& 2022 I might've been in Novice come to think of it

but still lol

[rancid juniper]

hmm since you're here anything else to tweak?

😏

tRFC is excluded

[idle nexus]

it won't give you tCWL 12?

[rancid juniper]

i haven't tried that but since the PC cannot boot CL12 from primaries i don't think it would be stable for tCWL 12

[idle nexus]

if it won't run tCWL 12, try loosening tRDWR to 16

iirc you need looser tRDWR for tighter tCWL

[rancid juniper]

i see

[idle nexus]

tbh I never actually experimented with which one gives better performence

i.e., higher tCWL & lower tRDWR v. lower tCWL & higher tRDWR

[rancid juniper]

ill skip tCWL tweaking

[idle nexus]

if you're using MSI BIOS

scroll to the very bottom of the Memory tweaking part

like where you enter all the timings page I mean

[rancid juniper]

ok

[idle nexus]

allllll the way at the bottom (push right arrow to jump groups btw. Best MSI BIOS feature)

did you disable PowerDown?

[idle nexus]

btw nicely done with tRTP/tWR nice nice

[rancid juniper]

👌

[rancid juniper]

yep