general-chat

[devout forum]

Very close to XTX yes

[hoary zodiac]

if they catch in RT too...

[devout forum]

again

4070 Ti S level RT perf is said

[hoary zodiac]

for $500?

if blackwell really is a disappointment

[devout forum]

which IS enough to do 1440p 120hz RT if you optimize settings a little bit

[hoary zodiac]

Radeon will be breathing down Nvidia's neck

[devout forum]

if the 9070/XT is actually as good as rumors indicate then it'll sell like hotcakes and probably end up scalped to hell and back

[hoary zodiac]

eh

It's not like buying at launch is a good idea anyways

[fresh timber]

Good enough

[hoary zodiac]

the aftermarket models will be worth more

[mortal grail]

Looking like it was for the 4090 lol

For us

[hoary zodiac]

I'd wait for the sapphire pulse at least

[mortal grail]

$2830 usd for 5090 is wild

[fresh timber]

My list, 5070, 5080, 9070xt

[fresh timber]

I want the nitro

[mortal grail]

We paid near msrp last gen

[hoary zodiac]

this is a pulse 5700XT

[mortal grail]

Hello pulse 5700XT

[hoary zodiac]

look at those vram heatsinks

they're extremely well built

and pulse is the cheaper model

I used to daily drive this thing

great card

[fresh timber]

How much vram is 9070xt, do we know

[mortal grail]

16

[proud jackal]

IS 5090 OUT YET

[hoary zodiac]

theo

here's an existential question for you

what if it's barely an improvement over a 4090

will you still buy it

[fresh timber]

Yummers

[fresh timber]

It has 32gb vram so yes

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-non-linear-gif-27023528

[mortal grail]

Where's the steering

[hoary zodiac]

fly by wire

[mortal grail]

Oh god

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/airbus-plane-squad-formation-group-gif-14487578

openmediavault takes forever to install on debian armhf

[tranquil pebble]

ig that depends on the exact soc

[hoary zodiac]

yeah it's an old seagate nas

no software updates

[tranquil pebble]

so probably armv7 lol

[hoary zodiac]

doubt there's zfs support either

so I installed debian on it

average kernel build moment

gonna post neofetch rq

uh oh

repo shenanigans

[south sapphire]

Anybody got a good article explaining the current and upcoming pc gaming handhelds that are out and or coming out soon? Would like something to read all about them at same time and make a decision on what’s the best one in terms of performance?

[slate fractal]

its a lot cheaper than the 4090

[fresh timber]

I need to buy a nas

[misty sparrow]

I wonder if Switch 2 will actually be announced on the 17th like the leaks said

[hoary zodiac]

the 5090?

no way

4090 had $1599 MSRP

[slate fractal]

well the others in the 50 series were cheaper than the 40s idk about 5090

[hoary zodiac]

5090 has $1999

[pseudo patrol]

also less components than the 40s 🤣

[hoary zodiac]

that's the most controversial part really

[pseudo patrol]

ai majority gpu

[hoary zodiac]

they're asking for $400 more

and if the performance is mediocre

that's not going to be great

[pseudo patrol]

performance gonna be bad watch

[slate fractal]

i think itd be a good advancement when games start actually letting you generate frames

[pseudo patrol]

frames

[slate fractal]

theres only a few games that support it rn

[hoary zodiac]

that'd depend on the game

[pseudo patrol]

have fun trying to enjoy an underground game without dlss 4.0 support

Nvidia doesn't recognise this game under the library

[hoary zodiac]

I just want to set up my networking

[tranquil pebble]

Someone should make a coffee flavored cola

[tranquil pebble]

try putting it in quotes

[hoary zodiac]

oh

nvm

I was trying to get workarounds since omv didn't work

turns out rebooting it fixed it already

lololol

[slate fractal]

coke did that im pretty sure

[hoary zodiac]

most american coffee

actually no

[tranquil pebble]

when in doubt, reboot first

[hoary zodiac]

the most american coffee would have corn syrup

[slate fractal]

i dont really like coffee tbh

i usually stick to dr pepper

[hoary zodiac]

as a soft drink?

ah

I use it as my wake up juice

[tranquil pebble]

I like dark roast coffee

[slate fractal]

dr pepper just feels like THE soda yk

[tranquil pebble]

this, root beer, and cola are my favs

[slate fractal]

like im incapable of drinking coke now

if they dont have dr pepper im drinking water

root beer is also great

[hoary zodiac]

I drink water

and coffee

and tea

I am sugar averse

only exception is lemon tea

[tranquil pebble]

green tea with honey goes hard

[slate fractal]

im pretty sure my fluid intake is more dr pepper than water

im not okay

[tranquil pebble]

I drink dihydrogen monoxide

[slate fractal]

have you guys ever just wanted to drink like

windshield wiper fluid

[tranquil pebble]

no absolutely not

[slate fractal]

it looks good

[tranquil pebble]

that's like saying tide pods look good

[hoary zodiac]

no

I drink either water

[slate fractal]

they do

[hoary zodiac]

or stuff that doesn't have sugar in it

there are some exceptions

half of it is because of health reason

the other is because I just don't like sugar

[slate fractal]

genetics screwed me over

[slate fractal]

i have really fast metabolism but my family has a diabetic gene idk

[slate fractal]

i have no clue what this is but good job i think 👍

[hoary zodiac]

Installed Debian on my nas

this thing is old and doesn't get software updates anymore

[tranquil pebble]

I should install something like that on my old router lol

[hoary zodiac]

hmmm

zfs might not work on arm 32 bit

or maybe I just don't have the packages

[mortal grail]

Have you ever tried headlight fluid

[slate fractal]

not yet

i hear its good

[hoary zodiac]

Armada 370 is 32 bit right?

[mortal grail]

Idk

[hoary zodiac]

It's Armv7

[tranquil pebble]

v7 is 32 bit

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

not sure if zfs will work

does ZFS work on 32-bit?

[tranquil pebble]

for x86 yes... for arm idk

it however is discouraged

[hoary zodiac]

I installed the omv-extras package

the zfs plugin is available now but

ehh?

don't trust running zfs on it

[tranquil pebble]

basically try at your own risk type deal

[hoary zodiac]

damn

[tranquil pebble]

ZFS is gonna be crap on 512 mb RAM anyways

[hoary zodiac]

true

maybe XFS?

or EXT4

[tranquil pebble]

ext4 is a safe bet pretty much always

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

easier to shrink too

in case the seagate drive in here acts up

I'm watching you...

the annoying thing is that my other drive is on ZFS

so I'm gonna have to take the drives out later

and move from ZFS to ext4 manually

file by file

[tranquil pebble]

ext4 is the default for most distros for a good reason

[hoary zodiac]

unless I could make a disk image

[hoary zodiac]

at least I don't have to use NTFS

🤡

hmmmm

[tranquil pebble]

No Thanks File System

[hoary zodiac]

hmmmmm

bigger files but this is an ancient arm 32-bit processor

looks like ext4 is better here

[tranquil pebble]

ext4 will be faster there yeah

[hoary zodiac]

I've nevver made disk images before so

[tranquil pebble]

XFS would likely be better on say a full fat x86 CPU

[hoary zodiac]

could I make a disk image on a ZFS partition and extract it in a EXT4 partition?

actually no

terrible idea

the ZFS partition is 8TB

ignore my stupidity

how I just need Jellyfin in a docker container in my minipc

then I have my storage solution & HTPC all set up

I assume it's faster to get a usb adapter

and transfer the files from disk to disk

than to transfer it over the network

I'd say the network is capped at 1gbps

cuz cat5e

[tranquil pebble]

I might repurpose my 5700x3d system for server use after I get the 9800x3d

[hoary zodiac]

underclock it too

would be cool to be able to run a 5700x3d passive

or with almost no cooling

so

I should set up a SMB share right?

[hoary zodiac]

Le homelab

[mortal grail]

Is not much but is home

Lab

[hoary zodiac]

It's optimised to be relocation friendly

Less bulk

Was going to use the bigger router as a repeater but it doesn't have that function so

[proud jackal]

[hoary zodiac]

Just gonna be bottlenecked with the funny asus AP until I could afford an AP or get broadband

https://youtu.be/KYBok-XGsKM

Throwback

HDDs were tiny back then

[mortal grail]

So by 2014 standards I'm jnsane according to Linus

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder

Can I run a nas with 16TB of data on 512MB of ram

Running ext4

[mortal grail]

#tech-industry-news

Insane Wukong perf if true

That game destroyed anything not Nvidia in many tests

Wtf equivalent to a 4070Ti in path tracing

[hoary zodiac]

Is that a nvidia favouring title?

Would be extremely funny if Radeon is just brute forcing its way with RT

[hoary zodiac]

You mean 4070ti?

[mortal grail]

I did, oops

They have probably a week left to improve now

[hoary zodiac]

ahahahahhaha

Imagine if Blackwell is as bad as it looks on paper

[mortal grail]

That's an insane result, the XTX gets flattened in path tracing

[hoary zodiac]

AMD would literally be breathing down nvidia's neck

[hoary zodiac]

Especially since RT's been the biggest selling point of RTX

The walls might actually close in on nvidia

[mortal grail]

If it's what it looks like for 50 series, and the numbers for RT are barely any better, Nvidia lost their RT advantage but are now striding in AI

[hoary zodiac]

And they'd be forced to compete

They'll have to lower their prices

[mortal grail]

We need more FSR4 details

[hoary zodiac]

There's no way they're that stupid

[mortal grail]

That tech looks great

But we don't know what the tech does

[hoary zodiac]

The consumer AI market isn't that big

[mortal grail]

Can be if they remove the deficits of FG

At that point it becomes more than a joke

And DLSS 4 + reflex 2 looks like it could do that

[hoary zodiac]

It'd be great for singleplayer games

[mortal grail]

They still seem to have the frame buffer issue yeah

[hoary zodiac]

And some multiplayer games

[mortal grail]

But at least they improved

[hoary zodiac]

I still think they're leaning too much into the "nice to have nvidia features"

Then again they were right about RT being a big thing in gaming

Who knows

Maybe FG is the best move given how devs release slop without optimising them these days

[tranquil pebble]

rocm is rapidly getting to the point of stepping on Nvidia's toes

[mortal grail]

Think there's no mistake RT would eventually be good

Point is bringing the games to a point of actual playability

MFG could likely genuinely do that, but between waiting for reviews and waiting for actual game support it's not an overnight change

[hoary zodiac]

RT is actually looking decent at this point

[mortal grail]

Yes

[hoary zodiac]

It's becoming a lot more accessible

I was very critical of RT when Turing released

[mortal grail]

We still haven't seen many executions of occulent occlusion in games yet outside of VR

Another potential big improvement

[hoary zodiac]

Rightfully so given how a 2070 probably won't fare well nowadays

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah for sure

Just wild that the carrot AMD is dangling here

[hoary zodiac]

Nowadays it's looking pretty decent

[mortal grail]

If FSR 4 has MFG it's just gonna be anyone's game

I'll definitely get one at some point *if it does

[hoary zodiac]

AMD is very competitive these decade

They're looking like they might dominate the cpu and gpu market

Intel can always catch up

[mortal grail]

Idk why so many downplay it tho

Nothing is better than healthy competition

[hoary zodiac]

Ye

[mortal grail]

Encouraging each side to do better instead of creating a monopoly and a monopsony*

[hoary zodiac]

That's the entire reason that coffee lake has 6c/12t instead of 4c/8t

I'm really hoping blackwell to be a disappointment and rx 9000 to be a success

Simply because it'll actually force nvidia to compete

[mortal grail]

#tech-industry-news

[hoary zodiac]

Instead of doing the usual "We're nvidia we can do whatever we want, here's a $2000 gpu now!!! The more you buy the more you save!!!"

[hoary zodiac]

Repost

[mortal grail]

Is it

Ah

[devout forum]

Y'know what will be funny?

nGreedAI reportedly initially planned the 5080 with 24 gigs of VRAM
When are we getting that config as a 5080 Ti/Super?

[worn wave]

After a bunch of people cave in and buy the base model

[devout forum]

or if for some reason it sells really bad

[tranquil pebble]

some guy in the Xbox discord is trying to defend cheating online... bruh

[devout forum]

kek

I can potentially see one case

but like it's so hyperspecific it's basically pointless

and that's super-lootboxy grinding games that have repetitive gameplay for the sake of having to just grind money to buy more lootboxes to MAYBE get your OP items

[tranquil pebble]

nah this guy was defending cheating in CoD

[safe cape]

@ancient swift https://wccftech.com/gmk-announces-worlds-first-mini-pc-based-on-amd-ryzen-ai-9-max/

[velvet summit]

How to enjoy gaming if you hate grinding: don't play games that require insane amounts of grinding

[tranquil pebble]

only up to 32 GB RAM... kinda lame

[velvet summit]

I can't wait til we get to the future and in history or like marketing classes there would be discussions about the absurdity of putting the term AI on every product

[devout forum]

it is what it is

[velvet summit]

Alas we are living it 😔

[devout forum]

it's more than my desktop has lmao

[tranquil pebble]

mine will soon have 96 GB

[devout forum]

and actually

if there are thousands that already get away with cheating

[safe cape]

not bad

[devout forum]

Why shouldn't I get away with it too?

Hell there are people making a living from selling cheats

[tranquil pebble]

and these people have been sued for it before

[devout forum]

they don't get punished either

cuz they just "settle" and both them and the devs get a payout

The only one shafted is the players that have their experience ruined by cheaters

But hey who cares about them once they bought the game?

Their purpose as the wallet stuffer is finished

[safe cape]

5090 low profile when ??????

[sinful blade]

Bungie

[mortal grail]

To much RT and heat in such a small space

IT'S CONDENSING

IT'S TURNING INTO A BLACK HOLE

[safe cape]

infinite fps ?

[mortal grail]

[safe cape]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-sexy-tilting-ohhh-nods-gif-13035178

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/umbrella-academy-vanya-destroying-the-moon-laser-beam-moon-destroyed-gif-26550290

[safe cape]

temps are good on the a3 ?

[mortal grail]

Temps are a little warmer than water but are fine

[velvet summit]

I made a discovery

Discord mobile finally embeds audio

[rancid juniper]

My phone can't play the video 😔

[mortal grail]

Get newer phone noob

No AV1 pffffff (Why is it av1)

[rancid juniper]

Nah this app sucks

Oh

Av1 embed works???

[velvet summit]

Me when I dump the clutch after revving to 10000000000 rpm

[mortal grail]

It...does? I think

[astral inlet]

hmmmmmmmm.....

[rancid juniper]

Like I see the video thumbnail but all I get is a black screen

[mortal grail]

Lmfao it doesn't still

Idk why it doesn't work

[velvet summit]

It works for me

https://tenor.com/view/computer-works-for-me-meme-engineering-dvd-gif-27508941

[rancid juniper]

You probably have a GPU that can decode av1

My phone can't but newer phones can

[velvet summit]

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/FcWd2TIUZgM?si=3z-VMggbO3OpdVIo

[velvet summit]

I sure wonder what that channel does

[velvet summit]

They're asking the real questions

[rancid juniper]

Wild questions

[elfin mural]

pentium 4 with 4090

[tranquil pebble]

Intel Atom with 4090

[elfin mural]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/102528/dune-awakening-only-runs-at-60fps-on-an-rtx-5090-with-dlss-turned-off/index.html

So much for being a top end gpu

[mortal grail]

[tranquil pebble]

AAA games can rot if this is how things are gonna be

[mortal grail]

Remember when I said "AAA running at 4K60 on 5090 in 2 years"

Boy was I wrong

It didn't even last 2 days!

[safe cape]

imagine dlss 5 99999999 fps

[mortal grail]

2 years later, 60 fps

[tranquil pebble]

AAA games now featuring the performance of a AAA battery

[graceful loom]

AAAA batery if you will

[devout forum]

Do we know what the 4090 can do in it?

At the same settings

[frigid stag]

Probably like 40 fps

[devout forum]

Yikes

[frigid stag]

Sounds like a ray tracing game

[dusk knot]

the game doesn't even look good!!! Where are these computational resources going!!???

[elfin mural]

i don't even know at this point

we're wasting computational power for nothing

[sinful blade]

Music and textures

[dusk knot]

[sinful blade]

It’s why every cod is 1000gb

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/UjnEiP9a9kQ?si=WCZOv5L3h3zSB1Ad

Look at this.....

Doesn't even look better than RDR

or anything in the past decade

The gameplay looks clunky, and there hardly anything happening in the background

Still looks like a video game ...

[mortal grail]

Looks like starfied

field

fied

[dusk knot]

🤮

[mortal grail]

Lol

[dusk knot]

What's the point of getting a 5090 then. Smh

The games suck.

[storm narwhal]

Bad render pipelines enforced by ue4/ue5 including nanite and other methods

[dusk knot]

Unbl

Unbelievable

The world's going mad.

[storm narwhal]

Also makes the games look like ass too when any motion is involved

[dusk knot]

Efficiency and practicing what works is being thrown out the window in most of the entertainment industries....

[storm narwhal]

There's a reason why 2014 ish games look better

There was actual time and care put into developing efficient and good quality optimizations into games

Now its just ue4 and serve the slop onto a plate

Ue5 soon

UE wasn't even meant for games but it just so happens epic owns it

So naturally fortnite is their spearhead for implementing game rendering techniques...

[dusk knot]

Unreal engine has to be abolished then

That's the problem.

[storm narwhal]

Epic needs to wake up and change the standards they enforce

Inefficient and worse quality, stop forcing TAA would be a damn start

[dusk knot]

Watch them not listen

[storm narwhal]

They aren't lol

[dusk knot]

Too big to care they would say

[storm narwhal]

Because clearly nanite and their ray tracing crap in fortnite works so well...

(It doesn't it runs pretty badly)

[pliant berry]

I want to try indiana jones game but the requirements are so damn high I don’t think Id be able to properly enjoy it

[storm narwhal]

And it doesn't even look that good!

It just looks... Like a game

[dusk knot]

It runs alright on my 3080ti......

[pliant berry]

I have 3070ti..

[dusk knot]

I thought you had a better system than me, ghost

[storm narwhal]

Rip

[pliant berry]

9900k too, where the minimum is 10700k

[dusk knot]

):

Ouch

[pliant berry]

I have better camera system, not pc 😦

[storm narwhal]

9800x3d 6090 super for the next game

Watch

[dusk knot]

I've seen lol

[storm narwhal]

Oh also the issue too lies in the fact that 30/60fps is the target for AAA games now

Even in the dune thing, you notice how it barely breaks like 65fps raw?

That's the target now, cause apparently that's enough for console players

[dusk knot]

They should raise that to 120fps 😭

Or 90

[storm narwhal]

REAL

[dusk knot]

I like 90

[storm narwhal]

90-100fps target would be cool

Nope

Spiderman game, 60fps

Other games also 60fps

[dusk knot]

It's almost 2030 and where's still dabbling in the 60fps talk

All the sci-fi documentaries and movies I watched are a lie

[storm narwhal]

Its just the standard now lmao

When did this happen

[dusk knot]

No idea

[storm narwhal]

Also in the trailer notice how everything moves slow and cinematic

For dune

To hide the issues like ghosting and smearing caused by TAA/DLSS when moving at normal speeds

[safe cape]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3058630/Assetto_Corsa_EVO/ 4k ultrawide 240 fps

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[storm narwhal]

Cause its all temporal based

If you don't give the model enough samples it'll just get confused and produce artifacts

[dusk knot]

Good point. At least not all games are badly optimized...not everything is AAA💀

[storm narwhal]

Indie games are the way fr

[dusk knot]

I don't know what to play

[storm narwhal]

Helldivers

Lmao

Guess just keep an eye out for new games

[dusk knot]

I already have that game covered

[sinful blade]

Old games

I’m having the time of my life playing tale of two wastelands

@dusk knot play that ^

[wicked oriole]

Could cod issue for ram be related to bios?

Or is it cpu driver?

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1004644552709246996.gif?size=160&quality=lossless

[velvet summit]

real

[peak heart]

Real

Any updates on 5060???

[rancid juniper]

4 DAYS OH MY OH MY

😳

anyways, finished with tuning 3000mhz ram

Left: Without safemode
Right: With safemode

[unreal trail]

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/472573613_1149329226561119_6851315041322896958_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p552x414_tt6&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=ixHyfbvAfukQ7kNvgEfRtdq&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&_nc_gid=AK40Raf7lkR698kocmlVkWv&oh=00_AYC7RYIJI5zRT1_Siq77X0AbIxNpLK8ByiQ1z4JjsZWjOA&oe=6789E098

[velvet summit]

not even a dedicated charging port anymore

[devout forum]

USB-C charging >>>>> every single dedicated dogwater power port ever

I do NOT miss the age of every single manufacturer having their own proprietary charging port that uses their special charger that you can only get from them

USB C PD is unironically a godsend

[opaque sedge]

magsafe is pretty cool tho

imo

[devout forum]

USB-C Magsafe cables exist

With the magnets to connect it and all

[opaque sedge]

what

i didnt know that

[devout forum]

You have the USB-C cable where the plug itself is magnetically attached to the wiring

[mortal grail]

It's a whole thing yeah

[devout forum]

And you plug the quasi-dongle in, and then you can just leave the plug in and use the magnet to detach the cable from the plug

[opaque sedge]

macs remind me a lot of games have been getting ported to mac in the past 3 years and some future releases coming directly to them too

[devout forum]

Super cool

[mortal grail]

Like 5?

Lol

[devout forum]

They do cost a pretty penny tho

[mortal grail]

Wasn't the latest one for apple the 2022 hit resident evil village

[devout forum]

But you can have a couple plugs inserted into devices and a single cable on your desk for charging stuff

[mortal grail]

I just use wireless chargers

[worthy meteor]

all I remember is frostpunk 2 is going to mac

[opaque sedge]

yeah 5 are the relevant games i suppose lol

[pliant berry]

Magsafe is cool

I just don’t love usb c because of it’s reliability, heavily depends on manufacturer though

[devout forum]

I love the ideals of USB C

[frigid stag]

Same idk what phone to buy now that they’re everywhere

[devout forum]

The universal cable, the high data rate, the super fast charging

But the implementation is...
Blergh

[frigid stag]

Like I genuinely don’t have one device with usb c

All lightning

[pliant berry]

Well yeah that’s it

[worthy meteor]

and the 10 different standards for data rate and charging rate...

[pliant berry]

Like my dad went through 3 replacement phones that all died because the usb c port started failing

[devout forum]

The idea is good
But so much of it is optional and additional standards it's kinda painful

And you HAVE TO compromise on it

There's no one cable does it all to the best of my knowledge

[pliant berry]

No kidding

[devout forum]

Like a 40gbit data + 240w charge capable C cable is based

[pliant berry]

The most complex simple cable to exist

[devout forum]

But I don't think it actually exists rn

[mortal grail]

I said that for a joke I wasn't expecting honesty

[worthy meteor]

You can choose between either having the up to date USB PD or you can choose 40gbit, not both lol

[devout forum]

Which really blows

[mortal grail]

Let's make the cable thicker than a standard kettle cable

I want both

[devout forum]

I'm not even sure you CAN implement both in the same cable

Like physically

[mortal grail]

Sure ya can

Why does it need to be ONE plug?

[devout forum]

I mean I've seen 240watt C cables that were like 4mm thick

But that was only 2.0 data rate

[pliant berry]

Who needs 240watt usb c charging though?

[worthy meteor]

Let's just grab display port 2.1 and add a 14awg wire for power

Solves everything

All the data rate all the power

[devout forum]

Some gaming laptops use it

It's the newest standard iirc

[pliant berry]

Gaming “laptops”

https://tenor.com/view/laptop-laptop-user-portable-gaming-laptop-be-like-gif-27191601

[devout forum]

To be fair

There's a practical limit to how much power you can stuff into a laptop with cooling

But like

One of the new ROG 16inch thin laptops runs like 220 watts on CPU+GPU when under load

And it's not even close to a desktop replacement

I'm not saying it's a great idea
Or that it's got world-veatig performance

But laptops are getting impressive

[pliant berry]

They are getting more impressive now that desktops are getting less impressive

Dlss, dlaa, framegen

[ancient swift]

Thats why I'm waiting for Splitgate 2, Arena shooters have no grinding that really matters

[dusk knot]

Hello weggers

[dusk knot]

Full wireless I/O soon

No physical ports

[fresh timber]

good apu+egpu

easy

a real reason to go intel for laptops this generation is thunderbolt 5

[unreal trail]

food

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/bXKkZh2UEEA?si=4QaiQ6MzKIrzSuTJ

Wow AI has really improved

[fresh timber]

bro

techsource be swapping pcs every 3 months

bro just got a 14900ks 4090 pc and hes already upgrading 😢

bro saw 9950x3d and 5090 and said, yeah its time

[unreal trail]

SquareEnix has threatened legal action against those who would criticize their decisions on game direction and artistic choices, and the companies they choose to work with. Big fat DONT BUY sign.

[fresh timber]

Out dated specs

ill take the gpu off your hands 🙂

and ur cpu

[rancid juniper]

will smithy benchmark

[fresh timber]

ima go critize them on twitter

https://youtu.be/CYOj-r_-3mA?si=wnAfuqdW0CymWjzX

come on arc, my hommie needs that gpu

my friend needs a better gpu for 1080p

[lone mango]

All amd has to do is add a fifth 2g vram chip and I think everyone will be happy

Not happening though, 9060 is gonna have 8g

[fresh timber]

It better be 10 or 12 got

[lone mango]

The xt will have 12

[peak heart]

Yo chat work laptop suggestions??

[opaque sedge]

Guys 💀

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/3C99SdPmG2

[tranquil pebble]

cybertruck will never live this down

[opaque sedge]

I dont get it 💀

[velvet summit]

there are non grapes at the lemonade stand

[craggy shoal]

You're too young

[opaque sedge]

So its abt nuts?

[velvet summit]

you're nuts

[craggy shoal]

Tell me the duck story
Bum bum bum, ba-dum ba-dum

A duck walked up to a lemonade stand
And he said to the man, running the stand
"Hey! (Bum bum bum) Got any grapes?"

[opaque sedge]

[craggy shoal]

This guy is too young

[nocturne flicker]

The heck is this, late 2000s YouTube?

Its 2024

All we care about is fortnite and skimpy ladies in ads

[opaque sedge]

Or maybe ur too old

Is the steam deck still the best portable gaming device in 2025

Steam deck oled is over a year old now

I should have gotten a steam deck instead of an oculus quest 2

[pliant berry]

Steam deck still stands out because of steamos and the controller imo

But new steamos handhelds have been announced

The processor is getting old

[opaque sedge]

Just one the legion go s and it doesn’t seem to be the significantly better pick over the steam based on the listen specs will need hands on reviews

[pliant berry]

No but im sure more will come. They are only finally releasing steamos

[opaque sedge]

Altho steam os is abt to become downloadable soon straight from valve so u could get a z1 extreme handheld on sale and download the os onto it

It seems to work pretty well too since people do that with bazzite

So u could get smth like this

[icy ore]

[fresh timber]

Unc

[fresh timber]

..

Do I buy another handheld chat

[sour falcon]

Hello chaps

[sour falcon]

Yes

Contemplating the Ayaneo Pocket S for like 4 weeks now

[fresh timber]

I’ll return it in 5 days

[sour falcon]

Felt

[fresh timber]

Did it with the legion go

[sour falcon]

😭

[sour falcon]

I really want one but can’t justify 500$ for an android handheld 💀

[fresh timber]

I need better apus before I buy a handheld

The cpu is too ahead

The cpu performance is top tier, the gpu is mid

[gloomy arch]

hey, I have a pretty Beefy Pc that i Built a little over a year ago and its starting to have issues. It ONLY will crash during games. I ran a test on the ram and windows states no issue with my ram. WIndows is up to date, GPU drivers are up to date, Im not over heating. Anyone have an Idea on what it is?

[worthy meteor]

what exactly is crashing, and anything showing up in event viewer?

[sour falcon]

Isn’t AMD’s Strix point supposed to change that

[fresh nova]

Check Event Viewer look for critical errors.

[gloomy arch]

@worthy meteor one moment

[sour falcon]

Is it only specific games

[gloomy arch]

I had one critical 24 hrs ago and one 7 days ago

[sour falcon]

Also is it an AMD gpu

[gloomy arch]

yes

[sour falcon]

My friend had a 6800XT that was up to date but had some weird issue where it was continuously crashing when playing DX12 games

[gloomy arch]

i blue screened and it said it was "memory management". Ran a ram test and my ram has no defects. updated windows and it hasnt happened. But it still freezes in the two games im playing right now which is rust and the fnals

[sour falcon]

Is it only those games

[gloomy arch]

I havent played any other games that past like couple of months. So yes

@fresh nova

[worthy meteor]

what ram test did you run

[fresh nova]

Does sound like maybe a RAM / power issue

[worthy meteor]

Rust is relatively sensitive to ram instability ime

[gloomy arch]

windows memory diagnostic test

[worthy meteor]

run tm5 with the anta777 extreme config
https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/

[gloomy arch]

ok. If it is my Ram would the DRAM light on the Mobo light up?

[worthy meteor]

That only tells you what is stopping you from booting

[gloomy arch]

ah i see

[velvet summit]

Return of goomb

[misty sparrow]

what

[dusk knot]

Hm

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/beer-gif-3080179580444295005

[fresh timber]

bro

i got kicked in 5 seconds

[hoary zodiac]

Do you have corsair vengeance perchance?

[gloomy arch]

@hoary zodiac i had Skill trident, went and bought Vengance ram and the pc wouldn't boot up...switched back to my Gskill and it booted up....thinking my mobo is going bad

[hoary zodiac]

Ddr5?

[gloomy arch]

Still crashed with the ag skill

Yes

[frigid stag]

Well I think I fixed my windows issue

[hoary zodiac]

Ok here's a funny thing

There's some early DDR5 TridentZ kit that's unstable

Vengeance is just garbage

[frigid stag]

Love muh ddr4

[dusk knot]

Me rn

[gloomy arch]

Well now after switching them in and out the pc won't even boot up as of 15 minutes ago. M & K won't even light up

So prilly mobo is pooping out?

Even with the G skill

[frigid stag]

Well I now know I’m sticking with ddr4 when I go to 14th gen

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe when you switched them you didn't seat it in right

Sometimes when you troubleshoot you kinda start rushing

[frigid stag]

The ddr5 boards look nice but “it just works” is better

[hoary zodiac]

DDR5 is fine you just gotta avoid certain ones

Don't get launch DDR5, don't get vengeance

[gloomy arch]

I mean it's not like ddr5 just came out

[frigid stag]

Eh

[hoary zodiac]

Try reseating the ram

[frigid stag]

It’s still pretty new

[hoary zodiac]

It's pretty stable now

[frigid stag]

Eh

Every overclocking guy says “ I hate this”

[hoary zodiac]

I still don't trust corsair

[hoary zodiac]

That's optional

DDR5 overclocking is a different workflow

[frigid stag]

And that it causes random issues occasionally

[hoary zodiac]

They're just not used to it

[frigid stag]

Well they complain that it doesn’t work from time to time

Weird issues basically

[hoary zodiac]

It's memory oc

It's to be expected

[frigid stag]

Well ye but once you lock it in it should just work

[hoary zodiac]

It's not DDR4

[frigid stag]

Not everyone has the complaints but some genuinely hate it

[hoary zodiac]

But that's just the overclockers

Not an average user issue

[frigid stag]

I know how to change a few timings that’s about it

Never tried a full ram oc

I don’t want to run regular xmp though, need the extra performance for those 1% lows

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-24409967

[tranquil pebble]

ok I figured out how to launch anything using Proton. SimCity 200 Urban Renewal Kit works in it

[tranquil pebble]

I got a 96 GB kit of Crucial Pro 5600 MHz

2x 48 GB

[misty sparrow]

Didn't know they sold 48GB packs

[velvet summit]

They have become more common

[misty sparrow]

They're definitely pricey I'm willing to bet

but having six times the amount of RAM I have would be pretty nice

[tranquil pebble]

$240 really isnt too bad for 96 GB of DDR5

[pliant berry]

not at all, id buy

[hoary zodiac]

Hmmmm

Is a skylake i5 dual core laptop a decent addition to a homelab

[tranquil pebble]

if you dont mind it using most of its cycles to simply run the os ig, but I assume you would be putting Linux on it

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

[tranquil pebble]

Windows on dual core is pain

[hoary zodiac]

No way I'm running windows on anything

Maybe a backup server?

[fresh timber]

Bad

[tranquil pebble]

Apple

[fresh timber]

Do you trust the drive in it

[hoary zodiac]

I just replaced it so yes

[tranquil pebble]

presumably they would swap the drive for a fresh one

[fresh timber]

Fresh enterprise drive go brrr

[hoary zodiac]

But yeah I might also run a bunch of containers inside it

Maybe a Minecraft server?

[fresh timber]

That thing goin Lag

I struggle with 4c

[hoary zodiac]

ok

[fresh timber]

It would have low tps at 2 c

[hoary zodiac]

cool

[tranquil pebble]

lol Genshin Impact can run on Proton.

[hoary zodiac]

No anto cheat shenanigans?

[tranquil pebble]

so far, no

and idrc if I get banned for doing it either

[misty sparrow]

i'd rather get a Shin Impact than play Genshin Impact

tbh

[fresh timber]

I might move my pc off my desk

[tranquil pebble]

either way, Proton is amazing with how well it handles game launchers

[hoary zodiac]

We need proton for apps

Much harder than games but

Would make linux way more usable

[fresh timber]

Proton good

[craggy shoal]

This guy got VMs

[misty sparrow]

the triple setup

take a picture of your hands, i'm convinced you have three pairs of them

[craggy shoal]

Flexing his 300Hz monitor for Linux

[wraith fern]

linux more like

ewux

was that a good one

[craggy shoal]

No

L opinion

[wraith fern]

linux more like

yumux

[craggy shoal]

Unless you use Linux for servers and only servers

[misty sparrow]

if linux had no problems i wouldn't be using win11

[wraith fern]

linux seems nice until you cant play any game you want

because all of the anticheats wont work

[craggy shoal]

The only real problem it has is lack of support among devs. Other than that, not many know how to use it

[hoary zodiac]

Ironically it's easier to run games than software

[misty sparrow]

two real problems, actually

one of them is the one you listed

the other is trying to troubleshoot issues out the ass if something breaks (which, it will)

[wraith fern]

yeah but you dont really play any fps games do you

[hoary zodiac]

Don't use linux

ez

Doesn't work for you? Don't use it

[fresh timber]

Linux has no problems

Wdym

[hoary zodiac]

Ok that is a straight up lie

[fresh timber]

Why do servers run Linux instead of windows server

[misty sparrow]

did I ever tell you about the time I fell asleep at my desk trying to compile shaders for fallout new vegas

[fresh timber]

Think Boeing thing

[hoary zodiac]

That's not what they were referring to

They were referring to linux as a general use operating system

[fresh timber]

Linux doesn’t have problems, devs have the problem

[misty sparrow]

that's a lie too

[fresh timber]

Many people use it for general use

It’s a nice os

[hoary zodiac]

Ok both sides of this argument is stupid

I'm leaving

[fresh timber]

Windoes has so many problems

It’s hdmi scaling is poop, while on Linux it automatically knew what scaling I needed

[misty sparrow]

to me it's two sides of the same coin

[fresh timber]

Only problems I have with Linux is game devs skill issue

[misty sparrow]

One side is Windows, you can go there and get an easier experience with things working easily most of the time for the general user. Games just work without much configuring, but little customization + privacy issues

Other side is Linux, less resource taxing and you can customize it as you wish with more freedom and privacy, but software will break eventually and be a pain in the ass to fix

[hoary zodiac]

Use what works for you

It really doesn't matter what os you use

If it works it works

[misty sparrow]

I want Linux but it never works for me

[hoary zodiac]

See

Windows never works for me

It keeps self destructing every 6 months

Linux just works for me

If the os works for you, use it

It doesn't matter what you use

Windows or Linux

[pliant berry]

the next time I do major pc upgrades ill prob try to daily linux again

[hoary zodiac]

Windows 11 was too much for me

It just won't work right and ran like crap

I gave up on windows

It really just depends on use case

[misty sparrow]

I wish my games worked out of the box like on Windows a lot of the time

[hoary zodiac]

Have you tried selecting custom proton versions?

[pliant berry]

the last time I tried daily linux I was on debian and had some vms setup for windows gaming with gpu passthrough and stuff but it wasn't perfect. I also don't have a ton of resources for vms

[hoary zodiac]

Or installing Proton-GE builds?

[hoary zodiac]

The most annoying thing for me is productivity

I'm still trying to get affinity software running natively

Ms office I've just given up on and I'm using the electron webapp now

[misty sparrow]

Oh, I did

Most worked fine but some did not

[pliant berry]

really before anything I just want a proper kvm switch to use my mac for productivity and work

[hoary zodiac]

Proton-GE?

[misty sparrow]

Especially when downloading mods for some games

The GloriousEggroll one? Yes

[hoary zodiac]

Modding?

Ok you're better off with windows then

[misty sparrow]

I hated having to run installers under Wine to get them working

because then they'd complain about dependencies, so then I'd install the dependencies under Wine and they would still complain

and NVIDIA drivers too

[hoary zodiac]

Game modding on linux is mostly limited to steam workshop and other games that just have drop and drop solutions

I'd just stick to windows for your use case

[misty sparrow]

and I also play VR games too so

[fresh timber]

My pc dirty

[hoary zodiac]

Windows 👍🏻

[fresh timber]

Linux vr funny

[hoary zodiac]

It will just work for your use case

[misty sparrow]

HL Alyx is just too good of a game to pass up

[fresh timber]

Oo my case has holes for vertical mounting

I should vertical mount my gpu and cover all the pcie slots

[hoary zodiac]

The thing is about Linux

[fresh timber]

Super simple operating system

[hoary zodiac]

It's not for everyone

[fresh timber]

Just learn command prompt

[hoary zodiac]

Some people can get away with not using the terminal at all

[pliant berry]

one thing that is annoying for me is my music player supports linux but only as an output, not the actual app interface so you would need different device to control it lmao

[hoary zodiac]

For some people it just doesn't work (e.g. adobe software just doesn't work)

[fresh timber]

My friends are funny

[hoary zodiac]

It really just depends on what you use your OS for

And what you run on it

[fresh timber]

One daily’s arch

[velvet summit]

highly recommend everyone to learn how to use basic linux commands since it's so much easier than using a gui after you learn how to use it

[hoary zodiac]

This

[pliant berry]

use terminal to watch anime

[velvet summit]

well, some things would be better with a gui, but alot of things can be done in the terminal

[hoary zodiac]

What I'm more annoyed about is people using linux when it's clearly not for them and the just going "linux sucks"

[misty sparrow]

like me right

[velvet summit]

well, rather it's not because "it's not for them", but they don't put an once of effort to learn how to use it

[hoary zodiac]

Mixed bag

[pliant berry]

like me saying sony cameras suck when I've never used them before

[hoary zodiac]

Sometimes it can be both or either

[pliant berry]

except that is totally valid take

[hoary zodiac]

Go into a youtube comment section of the LTT linux videos

[fresh timber]

Sudo apt install steam

Do simple

Why can’t windows be like this

[hoary zodiac]

Linux glazers also don't help

[fresh timber]

Ltt is a bad example for anything useful

Their network infrastructure is sooo badddd

[hoary zodiac]

that was not the point

at all

[misty sparrow]

I always watch LTT videos satirically

[fresh timber]

I watch for entertainment

[hoary zodiac]

Linux glazers are always going "use arch", "use a wm", "you MUST USE VIM!!!"

[fresh timber]

Ubuntu, debian, fedora are my go too

[hoary zodiac]

The toxic linux community is probably one of the factors keeping some people from using linux

[misty sparrow]

Arch is genuinely terrible in my opinion

overrated

[hoary zodiac]

I'd say Ubuntu is terrible

I prefer using Debian

Arch is fine for general use

[fresh timber]

I unironically use Ubuntu as my go to virtual machine operating system

[pliant berry]

bB BUT STEAMOS

[hoary zodiac]

But don't use it for anything that requires stability

But again with linux distros it's highly subjective

If it works for you it works

There is no best distro

[pliant berry]

75% of my servers run on ubuntu server

[hoary zodiac]

There's a best distro for you

[hoary zodiac]

Oh yeah ubuntu server is fine

[misty sparrow]

ok

[fresh timber]

Ubuntu server on top

[misty sparrow]

-# so i guess it's like will smith's wife

[fresh timber]

Debian is the best

Proxmox peak

[pliant berry]

I've never used the desktop version though. for desktop i've only used debian, manjaro, uhhh that might be it

[hoary zodiac]

I usually use base debian for servers for minimal overhead

[hoary zodiac]

Manjaro is terrible imo

[misty sparrow]

I used Mint

okay i guess

[hoary zodiac]

It's like windows 11

They mess around with it way too much and breaks things too often

[pliant berry]

that is why I used it for a very short period of time, debian I used for a good few months

[fresh timber]

Last time I used mint it didn’t have 7700xt drivers

[hoary zodiac]

debian is SOLID for stability

It will just work

[misty sparrow]

I chose Mint because it shipped with nvidia drivers

[hoary zodiac]

And it will keep working

[pliant berry]

the lack of adobe and games killed me though that was before i had macbook

[fresh timber]

Screw won’t tighten

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah I have to run VM for productivity software

It's a pain

[velvet summit]

captive screw?

[pliant berry]

yup

[velvet summit]

doesnt make sense to be captive

[fresh timber]

It’s not captive that’s why I’m confused

Lmfao

[velvet summit]

but it's also moving too much to be stripped or something

mysterious

[icy ore]

[pliant berry]

I love listening to soundtracks of movies I haven't seen in a while

[misty sparrow]

-# interstellar

[fresh timber]

Chat

[hoary zodiac]

AHHHHHH

[pliant berry]

Good luck

[fresh timber]

Give random pcie card I should install

[tranquil pebble]

You probably can install apps with it tbh, it is literally just Wine that valve enhanced for gaming

[fresh timber]

2tb of Hynix

[proud jackal]

must get out of silver

[velvet summit]

HBA sas expansion frfr

[fresh timber]

No room for hdd in my case

Hba would go in my server

[wraith fern]

i should q with theo 🥶

[fresh timber]

I ripped it

Duh

[wraith fern]

@proud jackal i bought araxys 2.0 am i good with my money

😂

[velvet summit]

Thermal pad?

[fresh timber]

Yes

[wraith fern]

well i only bought the uhh outlaw

[fresh timber]

It’s useless

[velvet summit]

Why is it so shiny lmao

[fresh timber]

Idk

[velvet summit]

Also fr it's covering a bare pcb

[fresh timber]

I have direct contact to my heat sync

Okay where tf is the controller

The other side doesn’t have a controller

[velvet summit]

Huh.... That is interesting

[fresh timber]

This side too thin for a controller

Reinstalled all 2tb

[hoary zodiac]

Well

Thing is it's way way easier to run a game than an application like ms office

[tranquil pebble]

ms office can be run in Wine already

at least older versions

[hoary zodiac]

A lot of windows apps are rooted in the OS they're built for

[pliant berry]

depends if the application requires helper services and such

[hoary zodiac]

You used to be able to run 365 in wine

MS patched it out

We really just need the app compatibility side to catch up to the gaming side

There's paid stuff like crossover but I ain't paying money for custom wine configs

[fresh timber]

Did some management

[velvet summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809840106478502011/1328190927742832680/scream.mov?ex=6785cdb1&is=67847c31&hm=0d84ce4e0b422e4b30a103f8d5b83ca66b924153f9e5d07a32fc72d8b8abd25b&

[fresh timber]

oo

[fresh timber]

ddr5

ddr4

hi

[mortal grail]

@idle nexus did you see white apex is back on top

[proud jackal]

is stuck

D:

[dusk knot]

Watched wrath of khan. I think he’s one the stupidest villains in fictional history

He let his ego and hunger for revenge get over him. A superior intellect, yeah right lmao.

He might as well not be.

The writing back then…..not soo good

[hoary zodiac]

That's the point

He's extremely intelligent but his knowledge to warfare was from the 20th century

And he's way in over his head when commanding the reliant

[dusk knot]

He really was….

[hoary zodiac]

That's how Kirk pulled a fast one on him

[dusk knot]

Still an idiot

Dear god

[hoary zodiac]

The film actually explored that a bit

His second in command keeps trying to restrain him

[dusk knot]

He was his conscience

[hoary zodiac]

Khan's ego wouldn't let that happen

Khan also saw Kirk as have practically murdered his wife

Remember he's not entirely sane at this point

[dusk knot]

Right

[hoary zodiac]

He's been stranded on a planet and watched half his crew including his wife died

Because the planet became inhabitable

The story was more focused on how Khan let revenge cloud his judgement

[dusk knot]

And those nasty little critters that live in the ground

[hoary zodiac]

While Kirk managed to stay calm

Even though he messed up real bad

[dusk knot]

Right right

[hoary zodiac]

Kirk listens to his crew

Khan think he's a super genius

[dusk knot]

Khan didn’t and got his whole crew killed

What a contrast

[hoary zodiac]

Khan is stupid but in a good way

Not completely a cartoon villain but still something to contrast to Kirk

[dusk knot]

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

Kirk was also way in over his head

[dusk knot]

Comes to show how arrogance and ego gets you no where in the end

[hoary zodiac]

But he corrected course right after

[dusk knot]

Mmhhmm

[hoary zodiac]

Scotty carrying that bloody crewman probably shocked the hell out of him

[dusk knot]

It did

Not me though lol

Anyways…interesting watch

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

It's still one of the better written ST movies IMO

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

From the older ones

[hoary zodiac]

And newer

Quality fell off after first contact

Nemesis has nice battle scenes but rest is meh

[dusk knot]

Yeah