not enough for me to give a crap
#general-chat
fresh timber
hoary zodiac
🤨
rancid juniper
Bios is updated to the latest
fresh timber
domplats are unironcily high end
idle nexus
what the heck... I wonder if those ICs can't handle extra voltage or something
hoary zodiac
I wonder if it's also got something to do with intel
idle nexus
lol buy some darn bdie
rancid juniper
Na I'm fine
hoary zodiac
I suppose there's no other way to test it
rancid juniper
Already tweaked the ram to something suitable
fresh timber
I suppose there's no other way to test it
u can only test on intel so yeah 
idle nexus
these are pretty good https://www.ebay.com/itm/126870063139?
velvet summit
Somebody punched the LCD out of the monitor and said that they got a little angry
fresh timber
It'd probably struggle with ddr4
yeah
velvet summit
I do not want to know what normal levels of anger are
fresh timber
alot of the games dont really care abt 4 or 5 if u scroll throguh them
some do, some dont
velvet summit
If little angry is that bad
hoary zodiac
well the thing is
rancid juniper
these are pretty good https://www.ebay.com/itm/126870063139?
I'd rather get 64gb for my next smol upgrade
fresh timber
the ones that do msostly like 10fps i cant see
hoary zodiac
ddr4 is a dead end platform
ddr5 is just better unless your budget is tight
because you can keep that ram in a future upgrade
idle nexus
I'd rather get 64gb for my next smol upgrade
get DJR & run it in Gear 2 at like 5066 lol
hoary zodiac
and besides
fresh timber
ddr4 is a dead end platform
duh
tranquil pebble
96 GB DDR5 will last me a long time
fresh timber
i was speaking on my behalf
hoary zodiac
ah
fresh timber
of course ill go ddr5 next upgrade
fresh timber
that video stopped me from upgrading my current system to ddr5
hoary zodiac
eh no harm done
idle nexus
if I could do this on 11th gen I'm sure 12th would do it easier
fresh timber
if I could do this on 11th gen I'm sure 12th would do it easier
thats my old cpu
i upgraded from 11600k to 13600kf 2 years ago
idle nexus
I miss my 11600K
fresh timber
bes tupgrade i ever did
rancid juniper
Mmm tasty options
fresh timber
I miss my 11600K
i dont
idle nexus
I broke the SMDs off trying to delid lol
fresh timber
i was having performance issues with my games
hoary zodiac
I miss having inadequate hardware
fresh timber
then the mf g ame would have my cpu run at 100% usage
hoary zodiac
I remember upgrading every few months back in 2019-2020
idle nexus
Mmm tasty options
what are SA, etc. voltages?
fresh timber
now my 13600kf doesnt go past 50% 99% of the time
hoary zodiac
welcome to the adult life bud
fresh timber
when did u turn 18
hoary zodiac
it gets more depressing from here
fresh timber
istg if im older than u
idle nexus
with Micron, I needed loose tRAS to run higher clocks
fresh timber
with Micron, I needed loose tRAS to run higher clocks
you know
hoary zodiac
when did you?
fresh timber
thats prob what i need to do
fresh timber
when did you?
i asked first bucko
rancid juniper
what are SA, etc. voltages?
VCCSA: .0900v
Dram: 1.35v
CPU VDDQ: 1.2v
Cpu vcore: 1.095v
idle nexus
Micron Rev E/N (whatever I have--ballistix max) ran the same 5066 as DJR but tighter
hoary zodiac
Micron E is the good stuff for ddr5 right?
rancid juniper
Is high trefi even safe?
idle nexus
VCCSA: .0900v
Dram: 1.35v
CPU VDDQ: 1.2v
did you try SA higher?
rancid juniper
No
idle nexus
lol I max out tREFI always
fresh timber
Micron E is the good stuff for ddr5 right?
hynix is the best ddr5 irrc
idle nexus
DDR4: 65535
DDR5: 262143
rancid juniper
You madman
idle nexus
AM5 doesn't let you set tREFI. heck
hoary zodiac
I want to get a FX-9590 just to overclock it to 9GHz
idle nexus
i want to buy ddr5 just to play with it now
Z690 should be cheap. Don't get a Unify-X
well actually, Unify-X isn't thaaat bad
I just wanted more from it
shy pond
@hoary zodiac I just dmed you a question
idle nexus
but ya for ddr5, hynix a-die is dirt cheap & even 5600c46 will POST like 8600+
hoary zodiac
my dms are not open sorry
shy pond
my dms are not open sorry
Damn
idle nexus
why does DDR4 bdie still cost so much?
hoary zodiac
and besides if you ask here you get more opinions
rancid juniper
@idle nexus
shy pond
and besides if you ask here you get more opinions
But I attached a video to the question
idle nexus
brand new 2x16gb DDR5 A-die is cheaper than used 2x16 DDR4 B-die lol
rancid juniper
I wonder how much I can actually squeeze from 3000M/T
hoary zodiac
?
hoary zodiac
rancid juniper
CL12 doesn't boot and CL13 actually errors out on y-cruncher
hoary zodiac
I wonder how far you can push this thing
fresh timber
Z690 should be cheap. Don't get a Unify-X
question, cant z790 handel ddr5 better
rancid juniper
let me look again lol
XD
hoary zodiac
rancid juniper
I already tweaked Trrd and Tfaw
hoary zodiac
damn
rancid juniper
lol "Real 1N"
LEGIT
fresh timber
ln2
idle nexus
I was OCing 10700KF the other day for XTU & realized I can't even run Real 1N lol
I bet if you set that to auto on your old OC, it would probably work
(before you lowered clocks)
rancid juniper
Funny thing was, everything can be default and it would still not run 3200mhz
Tried everything
fresh timber
hoary zodiac
scam price
idle nexus
Funny thing was, everything can be default and it would still not run 3200mhz
Auto SA voltage?
rancid juniper
Auto SA voltage?
I have set it to 1.2v and that doesn't work. Tried all options
hoary zodiac
you can get a 7900XTX
rancid juniper
3100mhz fails too
hoary zodiac
XTX nitro is literally only $100 more
idle nexus
heck I wish I'd actually OCed 12th gen with DDR4
hoary zodiac
fresh timber
its $1012
fresh timber
so sexy
hoary zodiac
I'd literally just spend the extra $100 or whatever on it
fresh timber
i wish i got the 7700xtx nitro
idle nexus
I needed like 1.4 CPU VDDQ to stabilize 7000 on 12900K but apples & oranges ig
hoary zodiac
getting a XT for over $700 is not worth it
rancid juniper
heck I wish I'd actually OCed 12th gen with DDR4
So, is there any timings that needs to be optimized or am I fine?
idle nexus
So, is there any timings that needs to be optimized or am I fine?
see if tRTP will do 6 & tWR 12
rancid juniper
see if tRTP will do 6 & tWR 12
Ooooh I remember doing that for the 3600mhz CL16 tune and suffice to say it didn't like that one bit
XD
But I think this time it may work
fresh timber
mhh
hoary zodiac
that's msrp tbh
idle nexus
tRTP 8 & tWR 16 would be next then
fresh timber
normal price
hoary zodiac
the pulses are the best if you're not overclocking
fresh timber
used 4080 moggs
rancid juniper
tRTP 8 & tWR 16 would be next then
Yea
hoary zodiac
very solidly build gpus
idle nexus
heckin MSI boards always set tCWL=tCL on default lol
hoary zodiac
you can never go wrong with sapphire
fresh timber
oo
hoary zodiac
more like the status quo
wise wigeon
theyve been in stock
hoary zodiac
is it real?
fresh timber
yeah, i thoguht only microcenter had them
wise wigeon
its just coming to you in march
fresh timber
nah amazon has them too
hoary zodiac
I don't trust scamazon
wise wigeon
?
hoary zodiac
at least the pricing
wise wigeon
you just check for the correct sellers
fresh timber
I don't trust scamazon
wot??
hoary zodiac
the price can be sus sometimes
fresh timber
its sold and shipped by amazon
wise wigeon
thats msrp bruv
wise wigeon
anyway if you need a mobo too and fancy any of the ones in the newegg bundles thats prpobably the better bet
hoary zodiac
refresh the page
wise wigeon
says it'd come in on like wednesday for me
idle nexus
amazon is pretty good for returns in my experience at least
hoary zodiac
idle nexus
ebay buyer protection is like seller gets hecked lol
wise wigeon
its bad sellers for youur area
wise wigeon
like for me i could add it into my cart now
hoary zodiac
I really should use a VPN
wise wigeon
but do i really wanna wait til end of febuary or march for mine? not particullarly
tranquil pebble
if the Radeon MI50 comes and works, that ebay seller is getting a very good feedback
wise wigeon
i can buy this and not have a motherboard or ram to plug it into <:kek:770338921...
what you dont like any of the mobos in the bundles
fresh timber
tbh
im not going to be able to upgrade my platform for cheap for anothe few years
or gpu
idle nexus
I have different NeoForzas but still 4400c19. Mine are DR DJR. This stuff is underappreciated in my opinion lol https://www.ebay.com/itm/256705561933?
rancid juniper
Forza motorsport ramsport
idle nexus
it ran at 4266c19 on my son's 10900K for like 2 years lol
tranquil pebble
Forza Fumosport
rancid juniper
Fumojumpscare
idle nexus
jk 4533
wise wigeon
i need to decide if i want a fulltower or ssf
because if i go fulltower might as a well just get the bundles now
hoary zodiac
flip a coin
idle nexus
I'm heavily biased towards full tower cuz cooling is better/easier; easier to build in; almost any major parts fit; & you can make it look really nice
wise wigeon
thats the case i intended to build in
fresh timber
i wanna use this case for my server but it doesnt seem to fit many 3.5inch drives
idle nexus
SFF is cool but never got into it
hoary zodiac
I've been looking for a SFF with drive bays
outside of dedicated nas case they don't come with more than 4 3.5"
wise wigeon
see the main reason for something like an a3 is it'd fit on my desk, probably get less sdusty and give me easy port access
tranquil pebble
I've been looking for a SFF with drive bays
3d print one
idle nexus
just get some plastic standoffs & zip-its & mount the motherboard directly on the wall
no case
ez
wise wigeon
but it seems like not great to work in and cleaning seems like it'd be a pain
fresh timber
outside of dedicated nas case they don't come with more than 4 3.5"
i just want a small matx case that can fit like 4 hdds and not be overpriced
wise wigeon
well its lian liim sure its fine to work in
fresh timber
my current case i install the hdds in a unconvential way
hoary zodiac
you can do stupid thermaltake case shenanigans
wise wigeon
issue is i have sausage fingers and not nimble little racoon fingers
fresh timber
i screw the hdds on the case it self sense the masterbox q300l has a bunch of holes that conviently fit hdd screws
idle nexus
I enjoy thermaltake case shenanigans lol
fresh timber
idle nexus
what other case gives me plenty of space for copper plumbing pipes from Home Depot?
fresh timber
look at it
all those holes
for fun
im also inlove with the newer verson of this case
hoary zodiac
idle nexus
copper pipe is a lot cheaper than PETG pipe for some ridiculous reason lol
economies of scale ig
lol that TT case is ancient
fresh timber
how many hdds can it fit
fresh timber
ugh
hoary zodiac
or just
fresh timber
i just need 4 and smalllll
wise wigeon
like 4 2.5 or 4 3.5
fresh timber
why do u have to cost soo much
pliant berry
copper pipe is a lot cheaper than PETG pipe for some ridiculous reason lol
Here is an idea, 3d print petg pipe
wise wigeon
that is not that expensive
fresh timber
3d print tubes for ur waterloop
hoary zodiac
that's pretty reasonably priced
fresh timber
my nv5 cost less 😢
idle nexus
Here is an idea, 3d print petg pipe
if I had a 3d printer, maybe but copper pipe from HD was cheaper
well maybe not
wise wigeon
cheaper than a fractal terra or north
misty sparrow
I thought you meant this type of TT case shenanigans
Honestly what the hell is this
fresh timber
ima just jank my way thorugh this
misty sparrow
I will give it props for being a unique design that has no relation to anime
idle nexus
they also have a stand you can get to put it back to normal kinda
dusk knot
Perfect for cyberpunk 2077
fresh timber
they also have a stand you can get to put it back to normal kinda
if i had room id buy that
dusk knot
they also have a stand you can get to put it back to normal kinda
For some reason this bothers me
fresh timber
i wanna build in this
hoary zodiac
airflow?
idle nexus
Tower 200 is tiny
hoary zodiac
average NZXT user
dusk knot
Right? PCs don't have lungs
idle nexus
all those Towers have little screen add-ons you can get too lol
fresh timber
as long as i dont thermal throttle idc what my temps are
idle nexus
hoary zodiac
why is there a screen on it
hoary zodiac
they're going to ask $100 more for tha tiny screen
idle nexus
lol the same reason there's a screen on anything inside a PC/on the case
hoary zodiac
screens are the biggest gimmick
idle nexus
Tower 200 is SFF
misty sparrow
if there’s a screen on a case 90% of the time someone’s gonna put anime stuff on there
hoary zodiac
pretty sure you can DIY a screen yourself for cheaper than some of the screen case prices
idle nexus
screens are the biggest gimmick
lol I do important things with the one that came with my GPU
fresh timber
wise wigeon
Tower 200 is SFF
very liberal definition of ssf
fresh timber
i want a y70 touch
hoary zodiac
my argument is always
"are you going to look at your monitor or are you going to look at your pc"
hoary zodiac
nzxt consumer moment
misty sparrow
"are you going to look at your monitor or are you going to look at your pc"
female distraction
hoary zodiac
female distraction
AI powered
wise wigeon
what are they going broke because theyt cant pay pc rent?
wise wigeon
...
idle nexus
they decline all scamming acucations
lol I will never understand people who treat computer parts manufacturers like their favorite sports team
hoary zodiac
ok
fresh timber
im bored of my russian supporting deepcool aio
fresh timber
lol I will never understand people who treat computer parts manufacturers like t...
FOR REAL
i lerk their sometimes on my alt and its just people posting gamer nexus and mods and such sayting : erm not true 🤓
wise wigeon
lol I will never understand people who treat computer parts manufacturers like t...
fanboys are the true blight of society
hoary zodiac
NZXT doesn't make anything good
that's the funny stuff
their products are turds dressed as gold
fresh timber
i wanted thier lcd aio but its nzxt
dusk knot
Hm
hoary zodiac
ok surely someone else makes a better aio with a screen on it
fresh timber
lian li does 🙂
sweet phoenix
ok surely someone else makes a better aio with a screen on it
Sama
sweet phoenix
And thermalright
idle nexus
what's the best [gpu, cpu, etc.] company? the one with the best price to performance or the one with the best performance overall. I'm not team red, green, blue, etc. I don't care. I don't trust any of them & I don't care lol
dusk knot
I will keep my 3080ti til it can't run that new game I really want to play.
sweet phoenix
And thermalright
The warframe
wise wigeon
I will keep my 3080ti til it can't run that new game I really want to play.
i mean if i upgrade im just hand stuff off to my brothers
fresh timber
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jL3NnQ/lian-li-hydroshift-lcd-360s-7314-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-hslcd36sb i love this aio
fresh timber
what's the best [gpu, cpu, etc.] company? the one with the best price to perform...
the companys dont care about us
hoary zodiac
what's the best [gpu, cpu, etc.] company? the one with the best price to perform...
just look at Zen 3
dusk knot
i mean if i upgrade im just hand stuff off to my brothers
My brother's good 💀
sweet phoenix
wise wigeon
actually thats not cheaper then the nzxt
fresh timber
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jL3NnQ/lian-li-hydroshift-lcd-360s-7314-cfm-liq...
do u like this aio @hoary zodiac my hommie likes it
idle nexus
if NZedXT came out with an excellent product for a great price, I'd buy NZed. I don't think that's going to happen so I'll continue to hate on them in the meantime lol
wise wigeon
the lian li one at least
hoary zodiac
and remember when they said they were pulling ryzen 5000 support from B450?
sweet phoenix
fresh timber
wanna know w hat makes me mad
sweet phoenix
wanna know w hat makes me mad
Math class
fresh timber
no more deepcool
idle nexus
ya but they didn't. Not because they cared about consumers but because listening to consumers makes them money
fresh timber
i cant buy matching deepcool fans
hoary zodiac
ya but they didn't. Not because they cared about consumers but because listening...
fr
wise wigeon
its just nvidia has enough marketshare to ignore most of that
hoary zodiac
just look at asus
idle nexus
companies who don't play the long game are either desperate or stupid
hoary zodiac
they had to bend to GN because the negative press they were getting
idle nexus
ya because screwing over RMAs might pump up quarterly numbers but they lose customers long-term
wise wigeon
i mean asus has never had a flawless rep
fresh timber
asus is chill
fresh timber
i like tuff
wise wigeon
they just make ok stuff sometimes
hoary zodiac
rest are either meh or garbage
idle nexus
Apex motherboard is usually the best
fresh timber
they're mid
nah ass
wise wigeon
like remember when everyone was obsessed with the b450 tomahawk
fresh timber
mines had bad perofrmance if it wasnt plugged into a monitor
idle nexus
MSI's flagship godlike is a joke
hoary zodiac
doesn't mean they're all bad
wise wigeon
but most of the time i wouldn't touch msi
hoary zodiac
which one?
fresh timber
tuf dash f15
idle nexus
you'd have to be a moron or someone who actually needs whatever features make it $1200 to buy it
wise wigeon
you got the worst asus laptop and you're complaining
safe cape
fdghjqioerjgpmsf
idle nexus
it's true
fresh timber
it didnt have tempture issues
wise wigeon
didnt the tufs have hinge issues
fresh timber
only issues mines had was lack of mux switch
hoary zodiac
TUF laptops are... ok
fresh timber
everything els about it was good
misty sparrow
can I get some of them temp issues?
hoary zodiac
Strix and Zephyrus are generally solid
hoary zodiac
ok
wise wigeon
if its a gaming laptop i just default to legion if there isnt other features i'd like
fresh timber
I own a SurfaceBook 3
surfaces arnt bad, my cousin has one for college, nice laptop
hoary zodiac
if its a gaming laptop i just default to legion if there isnt other features i'd...
legion is solid too ye
misty sparrow
I’ve seen the M1 MacBook go for $600
fresh timber
I’ve seen the M1 MacBook go for $600
I KNOW
hoary zodiac
some of them are upgradable right?
wise wigeon
i mean airs are cheap
misty sparrow
So where’s the money
wise wigeon
and now they come with 16 gb ram
hoary zodiac
solid heatpipes and non soldered ram
fresh timber
i waant but ima wait for more graudation gifts to buy it
idle nexus
SurfaceBook3 overheats if you open the Start menu & you can't do anything about it because the motherboard is taped in behind the screen so you either need to be the most amazing person who has ever taken electronics apart of accept the inevitable screen crack if you try to repaste it lol
wise wigeon
solid heatpipes and non soldered ram
depends on models
hoary zodiac
yeah that's the pain with laptop purchases
I spent weeks looking for my current laptop
wise wigeon
the thinner ones are soldered
fresh timber
theirs a reason im only buying macs now
laptops are confusing
and with the new dell stuff.. im good
idle nexus
surfaces arnt bad, my cousin has one for college, nice laptop
Surface Laptop is alright afik. SurfaceBook is a tablet/laptop thing that you can remove the screen to have a giant tablet. I thought it was cool in 2020 & didn't know any better lol
fresh timber
i aint buying something designed to be confusing
hoary zodiac
laptops are a pain
wise wigeon
but any thin laptop isgonna have soldered ram now
hoary zodiac
even business laptops?
idle nexus
I can't even swap the NVMe cuz it's also behind the stupid screen
hoary zodiac
damn
fresh timber
ima buy a 1tb mac or 512gb and an external drive and call it a day
hoary zodiac
Surface Laptop is alright afik. SurfaceBook is a tablet/laptop thing that you ca...
I don't like the crappy keyboards
wise wigeon
if its thin enough thats the only way to get it that thin
hoary zodiac
on the tablet models
random osprey
fresh timber
boeing likes anime wifes
wise wigeon
i mean if you're just using a mac for school its fine
fresh timber
thats da plan, video editing school and otehr media stuff
o no im out of storage edits off the network
wise wigeon
i swapped my legion with my brothers mac as a grad gift since he needed a gaming machine more and i was just doing school
idle nexus
just watch this. Normal humans cannot do this lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R4B-A7oMKE
fresh timber
o no i wanna game on my mac!?!? opens moonlight
wise wigeon
literally just use it for like canvas, word, and lockdown browser
fresh timber
lock down browser would hate me
hoary zodiac
idle nexus
even the one in the video has a cracked screen
wise wigeon
and whatever software i use for exams
hoary zodiac
I HATE these keyboards
fresh timber
and whatever software i use for exams
i will legit buy a computer JUST for exams
i am NOT putting that software o nmy computer
wise wigeon
i have a friend in med school and they had to buy ipads for exams
idle nexus
even in the teardown, they crack the screen more!
fresh timber
logging into my school onedrive on my desktop arleady tries to control my stuff.. let alone their own software
wise wigeon
rather that then a mac
wise wigeon
at least air or higher i think
wise wigeon
so like $500
fresh timber
taking motherboard out, put a cpu cooler ontop of the heat sync, and unpllugging the built in fans
hoary zodiac
my surfacebook3 has a gtx1660ti in it
Why
idle nexus
put liquid metal on it
hoary zodiac
Whg does a surface have a 1660ti
fresh timber
Why
boeing oyu think a 1050 laptop and a unknown cpu can be fine if i slap a cpu cooler ontop of the heat pipes?
hoary zodiac
Why are you asking me
idle nexus
I put liquid metal on an old Asus laptop with 970m. It ran so cool. Also ThrottleStop on laptops before the stupid plundervolt microcode update is awesome
hoary zodiac
I don't even know what kind of jank you want to do but
I'm not liable
For anything that happens
fresh timber
kek idc if it dies
idle nexus
Whg does a surface have a 1660ti
so stupid people (me) throw more money at it ig
hoary zodiac
LM on a laptop?
idle nexus
I put it on my Asus laptop lol
wise wigeon
so many have it now
fresh timber
o..
idle nexus
fresh timber
i remember whats wrong with my old laptop
wise wigeon
like all rog laptops swapped over to it
fresh timber
the cpu is a t 90c 24/7, one of the fans doesnt work
fresh timber
the cpu is always downclcoked
hoary zodiac
I trust Asus tbh
fresh timber
funan turn it into a server kek
wise wigeon
yeah i almost always disable turbo on gaming laptops
hoary zodiac
Strix and Zephyrus are usually solid
idle nexus
surfacebook3 after disassembly (all that crap was in the top part behind the screen btw)
wise wigeon
that sub 10% fps dont matter enough to me if i can drop temps by like 20C
nocturne flicker
LM on a laptop?
Is good
idle nexus
that sub 10% fps dont matter enough to me if i can drop temps by like 20C
if it's 9th gen Intel or older, you should be able to ThrottleStop
hoary zodiac
So it's more a matter of applying the LM correctly
wise wigeon
thats what i did on intel ones
nocturne flicker
Made my 10750h stop thermal throttling
wise wigeon
for amd i just do the power plan thing
hoary zodiac
I use auto-cpufreq
wise wigeon
I had a 8750h at one point
hoary zodiac
pretty handy for managing battery on ryzen laptops
And I almost exclusively game with the igpu these days
idle nexus
Made my 10750h stop thermal throttling
damn you're so lucky. I have 1065G7 in that stupid SB3 & I can't throttlestop cuz microcode
hoary zodiac
Capped at 60fps because 300Hz is stupid for the games I play
wise wigeon
i mean you can still disable turbo by messing with powerplan
idle nexus
my old Asus laptop has 6700HQ & Throttlestop works wonders
nocturne flicker
damn you're so lucky. I have 1065G7 in that stupid SB3 & I can't throttlestop cu...
I meant the liquid metal
wise wigeon
just set the max cpu power to 99%
idle nexus
I could max out max core ratio on all cores & not throttle
nocturne flicker
Throttlestop doesn't work for mine
idle nexus
I meant the liquid metal
heck my 1065G7 is inaccessible effectively cuz SurfaceBook
hoary zodiac
On my 8250u laptop I set the max cpu frequency to slightly under the max speed
idle nexus
Throttlestop doesn't work for mine
makes sense since it's also 10th gen ig
nocturne flicker
There are work arounds if you can find certain bios version iirc
hoary zodiac
Turbo is always off on battery
idle nexus
81C with throttlestop/liquid metal on ycruncher lol
nocturne flicker
But laptop bios version are uh...very difficult to find
idle nexus
it's old as heck ya
wise wigeon
go into power options > processor power management > maximum processor state from 100% to 99%
effectively disables turbo if you dont have the tools to undervolt
nocturne flicker
Or just use XTU to make the turbo very short so you still get some turbo
idle nexus
I got almost all the No. 1s for 4425Y CPU in that stupid SurfaceGo2 on HWbot tho lol
wise wigeon
it'll really depend on how much loss in performance you had
idle nexus
getting XTU to run on unsupported processor is annoying lol
wise wigeon
i lost like maybe at max 10% and it never went past 70c again
and that just gives me piece of mind
idle nexus
this piece of crap came with DDR3 in 2021 lol
nocturne flicker
931.97mhz
idle nexus
ycruncher 1b took over 20 minutes
wise wigeon
you guys ever look back on console specs and go wtf
idle nexus
for reference, 13900KS takes about 15 seconds for the same benchmark
wise wigeon
like its a wonder how anything ran on the 3ds
idle nexus
lol ya they're pathetic in hindsight
idle nexus
lol it also goes to show you
what hardware can accomplish if it's made for gaming
instead of bogged down by the mountain of crap windows runs
wise wigeon
i like my steam deck but i wouldn't daily drive steam os yet
idle nexus
too bad the only AMD cards I have are ancient
I probably wouldn't daily drive it
but I'd be down to restart & use it for gaming
wise wigeon
i remember on my crappy phenom 2 965 and hd 7750 i tried to hacintosh it
idle nexus
lol I never tried that
wise wigeon
i got it to boot and stuff but no usable drivers
wise wigeon
first pc i built i was a victum of bulldozer
idle nexus
lol
hoary zodiac
You should overclock it for the funnies
wise wigeon
10700k was a good bundle deal with a z490 aorus elite ac
i originally had a 2070 super due to stock issues
because i knew about the evga stepup
i bought the 2070 super at msrp and just waited
which honestly was better
if i had got it at heavy discount i woulda paid more in taxes
because they tax the difference between what you paid for it and the msrp of the replacement card
dusk knot
We started with the same card
fresh timber
I'll dual boot it or something
dual boot windows and bazzite, then make a custom steam game that auto boots windows
That’s what I did with my legion go before I returned her
craggy shoal
Like a portal to your other partition
fresh timber
In Linux it can grab the boot efi of the windows install
And what motor said
It just reboots you into the windows partition
craggy shoal
Sounds sick asf and I’ve never heard of it and now I want to try it
hoary zodiac
grub doesn't work?
fresh timber
People do that with bazzite
fresh timber
grub doesn't work?
It should, but people should rather click a button to boot windows than reboot to grub
hoary zodiac
ah so just laziness
fresh timber
It’s faster so yes laziness
I only used windows for the 4 games that didn’t work on Linux so it made sense
hoary zodiac
bazzite starts in big picture mode right?
fresh timber
Yes
hoary zodiac
Makes sense
fresh timber
Thus you make it a steam game
You click the “game” and your system boots to windows
hoary zodiac
So it just launches a script
I see
Fascinating
That's actually pretty neat for an "immersive" console experience
fresh timber
So it just launches a script
Yup
hoary zodiac
As immersive as booting up windows can be
fresh timber
That's actually pretty neat for an "immersive" console experience
If you want you can have windows auto boot to big picture as well
hoary zodiac
neat
fresh timber
And you just add the games that don’t work and ur done
fresh timber
Now sense windows is poo, you have to restart and it just boots to bazzite
hoary zodiac
I want to get an old ryzen and load retroarch onto it
fresh timber
Do It
hoary zodiac
Like an all-in-one arcade machine
Or maybe I'll repurpose some old hardware
Haswell vm?
fresh timber
People power their arcades with steam decks
hoary zodiac
Mac mini is more for ps3 emulation
Cell architecture is emulator dev's worst nightmare
Some games run well on lower spec
Some games won't even run
fresh timber
Imagine if emulation gets so good that you can talk to Sony servers and it think your a real ps5, ps3 etc
fresh timber
I’ll happily steal the hidden codes in my ps5 to make it work
hoary zodiac
Yeah that's the illegal part unfortunately
Sony might let it slide
But Nintendo will kill you
tranquil pebble
Cell architecture is emulator dev's worst nightmare
Cell arch was ANY dev's worst nightmare
fresh timber
I find it crazy that it’s illegal to decrypt things you own your self
hoary zodiac
It's reasonable to a certain point
tranquil pebble
But Nintendo will kill you
and then sue your corpse
fresh timber
Distributing it is a distant story
fresh timber
i dont understand
hoary zodiac
That's the part of copy protection I have issues with
fresh timber
if i own it i should be able to do anything i want with it besdies distrabute
hoary zodiac
Distribution is illegal and I stand by that
fresh timber
agreed
hoary zodiac
But it's your copy
fresh timber
excatly
hoary zodiac
You OWN it
fresh timber
get better encrpytion then??
fresh timber
legally, if you own it you should be able to do ANYthing you want with it
hoary zodiac
A lot of pirates don't do it because they're too cheap to pay/can't afford it
fresh timber
if u aint talking to sony, nintendo, etc servers or using any of their products besides what you physicly own, i dont see an issue
hoary zodiac
It's because they can't access it
The problem is streaming services and distribution services
hoary zodiac
Exactly
fresh timber
it looks like its 3mbps bitrate at 480p
hoary zodiac
You pay more for an inferior copy
fresh timber
but on my ps5 it looks fine
hoary zodiac
Dvds are dirt cheap at goodwill
fresh timber
hoary zodiac
Or charity shops
Dvds are great
You can get a crap ton of them for dirt cheap
Or free even
Garage sales, thrift stores, even big box electronic stores have dvds for cheap
fresh timber
i just hate how shows are online exclusives
hoary zodiac
You're locked to 576p sure
fresh timber
streaming exclusive, more like excuse to give us low bitrate slop
hoary zodiac
But the bitrate is better
hoary zodiac
streaming exclusive, more like excuse to give us low bitrate slop
Sometimes they sell dvds/blu rays if they're nice enough
Sometimes streaming exclusives are remasters
tranquil pebble
streaming exclusives can rot
fresh timber
i watched this series at 480p 2mbps slop
🤮
i couldnt even enjoy it cause i couldnt see anything that was dark
like wow a dark show, and i cant see anything in the dark
and its all pixelated 🤮
hoary zodiac
I want a VHS set of the original star wars trilogy
Before george lucas messed with it
fresh timber
one of my friends has 300+tb of storage just for ripping media
hoary zodiac
If you go on Netflix and look for Star Trek
You can only find the remastered
Some of the blu ray releases have both original and remastered vfx
fresh timber
in their defense starwars better start trek slop
hoary zodiac
They're superior in period
hoary zodiac
in their defense starwars better start trek slop
I'd say both are crap since the 2010s
fresh timber
ray skywalker? no your ray palptine
hoary zodiac
We could've had a decent sequel trilogy but no
worthy tapir
somehow palpatine returned
hoary zodiac
These writers are incompetent as hell
hoary zodiac
And the director feud too
fresh timber
FOR REAL
fresh timber
HE SHOULD HAVE BEeN FORCE SENESATIVE TOO
hoary zodiac
Why have all these characters
fresh timber
MY TAKE
hoary zodiac
When you're going to shelf them
hoary zodiac
The story arc of going from a stormtrooper to a jedi would've been so much more interesting than what we got imo
fresh timber
The story arc of going from a stormtrooper to a jedi would've been so much more ...
for real
hoary zodiac
It could be either or both
fresh timber
then kylo ren
hoary zodiac
The characters just shouldn't have been wasted like that
fresh timber
im still confused aboutihm
ancient swift
Both do but they kept writing Finn into the back
hoary zodiac
You can even argue it's pretty good without hindsight
ancient swift
**how the flip is kylo ren a sith
He's not a sith
fresh timber
He's not a sith
i thoguht red saber = sith
ancient swift
but his comic run was pretty good and explains his fall to the dark side
hoary zodiac
More like first order
fresh timber
o
hoary zodiac
Sith died with palpatine
fresh timber
gotcha
hoary zodiac
And Vader
fresh timber
so hes first order
why did he become first order
.
did his parents not love him
ancient swift
i thoguht red saber = sith
Nah he's a Knight of Ren which was a dark side cult thing that worshipped the sith(he didn't know that)
hoary zodiac
The plot demanded drama
ancient swift
did his parents not love him
Actually yes
fresh timber
o..
hoary zodiac
Yeah that's was the plot of TFA
fresh timber
welp i can see he turned evil
hoary zodiac
Kylo has daddy issues
fresh timber
he killed his daddy
ancient swift
They felt like a hidden dark in him. Han was scared and ran off. Leia sent him to study with Luke.
worthy tapir
hoary zodiac
Character assassination btw
fresh timber
They felt like a hidden dark in him. Han was scared and ran off. Leia sent him t...
...
hoary zodiac
For the legacy characters
You just don't expect a figure as revered as Han Solo to just run off
fresh timber
if anything tells me anything about starwars, if these characters just got love and understanding 99% of the problems wouldnt exist
hoary zodiac
At that point he was a General
He was a war hero
TFA reversed all his character growth from the OT
fresh timber
You just don't expect a figure as revered as Han Solo to just run off
makes no sense why he would abondon his child with a hidden dark
ancient swift
People handle failure differently
fresh timber
if my kid had a hiddne dark, im going to make sure the dark doesnt come out
like ru stupid
hoary zodiac
Still they practically hit the reset button with his character
fresh timber
show bro love and he prob wouldnt have become what he became
hoary zodiac
Throughout the OT Han Solo learned to become a less selfish person
ancient swift
NOPE he sense darkness and dipped
Its a bit deeper than that
fresh timber
i call this, poor wrtiing for plot
hoary zodiac
Like you'd think the Solo after Return of the Jedi would be a different person
ancient swift
you gotta read the Kylo Ren comics
fresh timber
give me a tldr
ancient swift
Rise of Kylo Ren is the series
fresh timber
im lazy
hoary zodiac
Do the comics have better writing than the movies?
ancient swift
Yeah
fresh timber
and why cant they.. copy the comics
hoary zodiac
The spinoffs have better writing
fresh timber
i will never understand moden disney
all the og disney stuff was so good
then it went to poo
ancient swift
also leia's books would be important cause thats what started the rifts between Leia, Han, the New Republic, and Ben
fresh timber
hear me out, the empire is better the jedi what ever their called
empire, doesnt kidnap children
hoary zodiac
They're both bad
hoary zodiac
You're looking at an extremely corrupt and decadent republic vs an authoritarian regime
ancient swift
empire, doesnt kidnap children
The Jedi don't take kids without permission from the parents. A lot of parents didn't like the force because they didn't understand it
hoary zodiac
The republic fell for a reason
ancient swift
Dooku is a good example lol. His backstory is crazzzyyy
hoary zodiac
The Clone Wars does a pretty good job of showing some perspective from the CIS
fresh timber
...
hoary zodiac
The separatists weren't all like the Republican propaganda portrayed
fresh timber
how did palpatine hide his darkside
ancient swift
His dad who owned a planet abandoned him cause he thought the force made him a monster.
Like legit left him to die, didn't even give him to the Jedi
hoary zodiac
They just wanted out of the corrupt republic
They were being exploited
And the Jedi council were just a bunch of corrupt old fools at the point of the late republic
ancient swift
The separatists weren't all like the Republican propaganda portrayed
The political wing of the Seperatists yeah. But the military wing was in it for money and just as corrupt as the republic.
sinful blade
Star Wars < Star Trek
fresh timber
u watch the space lesbian show they made? the force can do alot more than push and pull people
hoary zodiac
The political wing of the Seperatists yeah. But the military wing was in it for ...
That's fair
hoary zodiac
Star Wars < Star Trek
Babylon 5 > Star Trek > Star Wars
ancient swift
Babylon 5 > Star Trek > Star Wars
Halo > Babylon 5 > Star Trek > Star Wars.
sinful blade
Anything > Star Wars
fresh timber
fresh timber
Anything > Star Wars
real
hoary zodiac
I heard y'all Halo fans have had a rough couple years
fresh timber
halo movie
hoary zodiac
TV series not good?
fresh timber
we should get a kal kestis show
hoary zodiac
Welcome to the sci-fi slop club
ancient swift
Anything > Star Wars
Nah I wouldn't say that. Star Wars is better than Harry Potter at least
hoary zodiac
Sci fi fans don't get anything good
hoary zodiac
Nah I wouldn't say that. Star Wars is better than Harry Potter at least
I think the OT is great
At least great for its time
ancient swift
I think the OT is great
I think star wars is all equally bad and people tend to latch onto what they grew up with.
hoary zodiac
Clone Wars had quite a bit of depth for being a children's TV show
fresh timber
they should make a movie based on jedi survior and fallen order.. unironicly better stories than the movies
hoary zodiac
I think star wars is all equally bad and people tend to latch onto what they gre...
Nah nah nah
misty sparrow
I heard y'all Halo fans have had a rough couple years
A rough ten years at this point
Halo 5 was released ten years ago
hoary zodiac
You can't say that the OT is as bad as attack of the clones
At least you don't have "I don't like sand"
ancient swift
You can't say that the OT is as bad as attack of the clones
I'd say its more of each trilogy is equally bad. Not referring to individual movies.
hoary zodiac
Ah that's fair
misty sparrow
I’ve never seen a Star Wars film
ancient swift
everything has great scenes and...not so great scenes
hoary zodiac
Return of the Jedi does have quite a bit of.... Shenanigans and bad writing
It's good because of the previous movies
ancient swift
Attack of the Clones and Rise of Skywalker are my least favorite of the movies
hoary zodiac
Same
ancient swift
Unironically I like Phantom Menace more than Revenge of the sith
hoary zodiac
Really?
ancient swift
Pod racing is dope
hoary zodiac
Darth Maul too
ancient swift
and Darth Maul too?
hoary zodiac
Ayyy
That lightsaber battle is epic as hell
Revenge of the Sith is good to bridge the prequels to the OT
ancient swift
I don't HATE revenge of the sith. I just think it had way too much talking and a lot of the emotion is really forced cause it had a limited run time.
hoary zodiac
That's probably why it gets a good rep among SW fans
Yeah they condensed a lot of lore onto one movie
ancient swift
Revenge of the Sith would have been better if they split it into a Part 1 and Part 2
hoary zodiac
Force Awakens had a lot of potential, later movies ruined it
ancient swift
Cause until TCW, the jedi we see die on screen didn't really matter in Revenge of the Sith. They were barely characters. Actually fleshing them out would have been nice.
fresh timber
wtf is the diffrence? whos a ram expert
hoary zodiac
Cause until TCW, the jedi we see die on screen didn't really matter in Revenge o...
Yeah
TCW did a lot to flesh out characters and the universe
Also deeper storytelling that you never see in SW movies
misty sparrow
wtf is the diffrence? whos a ram expert
Well there could be a lot different, like speed, DDR4/DDR5, etc or it could be just color and price. You gotta click on them to see
hoary zodiac
You're getting Star Trek level of depth
ancient swift
I liked TFA, The Last Jedi has its moments I like and moments I think are a bit goofy. Rise of Skywalker I don't like but I think it pulled the poetry right that Lucas would have wanted with the finale.
hoary zodiac
Or Babylon 5
dusk knot
THE SEQUELS NEVER HAPPENED
misty sparrow
Just like everything after Halo 3
ancient swift
Palpatine did the same dang plan 3 times lul
hoary zodiac
I liked TFA, The Last Jedi has its moments I like and moments I think are a bit ...
Rise of Skywalker undid everything in the last jedi and make it completely pointless in retrospect
I get everyone hated that movie but still
fresh timber
Well there could be a lot different, like speed, DDR4/DDR5, etc or it could be j...
looks like their the same exact speed and cl, idk about what ram chips or timings
hoary zodiac
The plot threads were not consistent
tranquil pebble
I once had a dream that there was a system that used exactly one stick of every DDR version
dusk knot
Rise of Skywalker undid everything in the last jedi and make it completely point...
I'm still waiting for the real sequels
hoary zodiac
Legends lore
dusk knot
I've been reading a bunch of the Legends material It's so much better
ancient swift
Rise of Skywalker undid everything in the last jedi and make it completely point...
They could have made both work pretty well together but reacted too much to the hate I feel.
would have rather had it that they didn't care about the reactions cause doing 180s makes it worse
fresh timber
star killer
dusk knot
What Disney did ..... The franchise is never going to recover
hoary zodiac
What Disney did ..... The franchise is never going to recover
Disney, Paramount, every studio with a big ip
ancient swift
I despise the New Jedi Order books because you have a lot of star wars fans now talking about how the Empire was actually good. Ignoring the several genocides and stuff they do. Other than that the EU is good.
hoary zodiac
They don't care about the franchise they care about the cash
hoary zodiac
I despise the New Jedi Order books because you have a lot of star wars fans now ...
That is literally some people in the real world say about a certain nation in world war ii
dusk knot
They don't care about the franchise they care about the cash
What they did both star wars and star trek breaks my heart as a sci-fi nerd.
ancient swift
That is literally some people in the real world say about a certain nation in wo...
Yeah its wild
dusk knot
Everything that you grew up with just gone
ancient swift
Everything that you grew up with just gone
its all still there for you to enjoy it.
misty sparrow
looks like their the same exact speed and cl, idk about what ram chips or timing...
I clicked on both in pcpartpicker and the timings, voltage etc are the same. Looks like the only difference may be price and color.
fresh timber
I clicked on both in pcpartpicker and the timings, voltage etc are the same. Loo...
looking deeper neon seems to be ryzen 3000 optmised
hoary zodiac
I up gave on star wars after the rise of skywalker
ancient swift
To me Legends content is just stories told in universe. so still canon but details might be a bit embellished
hoary zodiac
To me Legends content is just stories told in universe. so still canon but detai...
It's also written by competent writers who care about telling a good story
Rather than money
dusk knot
its all still there for you to enjoy it.
Oh yeah. I just rewatch all of the old stuff.
Just stuck in a nostalgic loop
dusk knot
I've heard about it, but I don't care