general-chat

[mortal grail]

Wym by sd

Software dev?

[tranquil pebble]

Stable Diffusion

[dusk knot]

6090 it is

[mortal grail]

Oh I mean instinct cards were basically made for compute and ai right

It's probably quite good

With the obvious caveats

[dusk knot]

AI AI AI

[tranquil pebble]

I already have rocm working for SD

[mortal grail]

If that one ends up being worth it yeah

Lol

[mortal grail]

I know very little about enterprise cards

Some are tailored to be specifically good at something

So that could or couldn't include rocm and sd

I wouldn't know

[dusk knot]

AI

thats all you have to know

[long arrow]

Anyone here know how strict the return policy for newegg is? I was given a crappy motherboard from amazon and now i would just like to send all my parts back but ive heard absolute horror stories about trying to return stuff for any reason

Idk if they will deny me over the original packaging being cut up or what

[dusk knot]

you should talk to Naht our admin. she could help you.

[long arrow]

Is she currently online

[dusk knot]

atm...no

dm her

[rancid juniper]

very smooth game

i think the ram tweak helped with the 1% lows

why is THIS under beautiful games?

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[craggy shoal]

$10 off wow

💀

[long arrow]

I dmed her, thanks

[rancid juniper]

one of the discounts of time

[dusk knot]

👀

[dusk knot]

Ur welcome

[devout forum]

New case stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy_EdDkzKbE

[mortal grail]

They took the feedback on their horrible cases last year and came back with better, and made fantastic improvements to the psus too

Sleeved cables and marked 12vhpwr is excellent

[opaque sedge]

was ther a montech booth

[dusk knot]

Nice case...

[opaque sedge]

i belive they still havent released all the cases they showed in last year's ces yet

[mortal grail]

Idk yet

But corsair improved in the two areas they were slacking in that are even worth thinking about

So I'm impressed

[sinful blade]

The RAGE inside me

[opaque sedge]

inside

i could have made a joke of them going inside somebody's mouth once

https://tenor.com/view/sad-dwight-schrute-rainn-wilson-the-office-nbc-gif-16114867

[safe cape]

https://www.techpowerup.com/330944/corsair-teases-liquid-cooled-power-supply-prototype

[mortal grail]

For those who need even a perfectly quiet psu to be even quieter

💀

That probably makes sense for like 1500W units that could use a lot of power

For normal units tho not really

I guess maybe some bespoke sff model?

The units that need it would be ones where a decently quiet fan isn't enough

[nocturne flicker]

Mmm, can't wait for the liquid cooler to leak and cause the psu to explode

[mortal grail]

Fr

[peak heart]

24" 1080p vs 27" 1440p which looks better???

[wise wigeon]

Didn’t azor say they would try but it’s a 9070+ thing for now?

[mortal grail]

Ye that's what the article said

[mortal grail]

The latter from experience

But depends how far you sit

[wise wigeon]

Ugh I still can’t decide if I wanna go full arc or a dan a3 build

[mortal grail]

Dan a3 is nice

I was surprised I managed to fit everything

All it takes is an matx

[wise wigeon]

A small build means I can have it on the desk and easier access to ports

[mortal grail]

Ooo moving to desk is a nice change

[wise wigeon]

But it’s not as quiet and I use speakers often

[mortal grail]

More space underneath is a blessing for sore legs

[wise wigeon]

Oh I keep it to the side on my desk

[mortal grail]

Oh

[mortal grail]

What fans are you using

[wise wigeon]

Well issue is I’m prepping to build

[mortal grail]

I mean like rn

Current pc

[wise wigeon]

Mostly artic p12s

[mortal grail]

Hmmm alr

[wise wigeon]

Keep em at like 50% because higher gives whine

[mortal grail]

Yea

Between about 40-60% depending on sample

But then beyond that it disappears

[wise wigeon]

Which is fine it’s still what 900-1100 rpm

[mortal grail]

About there yeah

900-ish

I will admit I hear my fans a bit better with a mesh case so your concerns are confirmed

But it's not a huge difference

Which 3080 is it

[wise wigeon]

Thing is about Matx and atx is atx means I could build next week because if I go for atx ima prob get a Newegg bundle

[mortal grail]

If I were you I wouldn't wait

[wise wigeon]

Pffft it’s a ftw3 ultra

[mortal grail]

Lol those are loud af

https://tenor.com/view/engines-top-gun-maverick-fire-up-gotta-blast-coming-gif-25325804

[wise wigeon]

Yeah I’m thinking 5080 upgrade

[mortal grail]

5080 giving mixed signals rn

[wise wigeon]

Woops

Eh

[mortal grail]

If you're waiting for a 5080 you might be rewarded waiting for a 9070XT

In terms of pure perf the leaked 3dmark runs show them pretty close to each other

[wise wigeon]

If it’s 20-30% over the 4080/super its 4090 level

[mortal grail]

Except the 9070 is going to be near half

[mortal grail]

It won't be tho

[wise wigeon]

I think you’re being too optimistic about AMD

[mortal grail]

Well here's the thing

Blackwell is ada refresh

[wise wigeon]

They never fail to miss an Opportunity

[mortal grail]

Besides the tensor core changes, the arch is mostly the same

[wise wigeon]

I’ve had both AMD and Nvidia cards

[mortal grail]

And the 3dmark runs tell us RT didn't really increase in the new gen

[wise wigeon]

But people are putting too much faith in leaks

[mortal grail]

3dmark is very reliable

[wise wigeon]

If it’s truly same level but half price sure

[mortal grail]

Well that's the thing I'm saying wait and see

I'm not saying don't buy either

Just wait

[wise wigeon]

But we both know if it’s truly competitive and is just gonna price it like at max $100 less

[mortal grail]

AMD has specifically said "$480-$550"

[wise wigeon]

Nvidia marketing is deceptive but AMD marketing is like god awful

[mortal grail]

I mean sure with everything take it with a grain of salt but just wait and see

[mortal grail]

Yeah but 3dmark doesn't lie

These aren't amd numbers these are 3dmark runs from deleted posts

[wise wigeon]

Are you gonna play 3dmark or are you gonna play games

It’s not 1:1

[mortal grail]

Ofc it's not 1:1 but it's very close to it

Why do people discredit 3dmark so much it's literally one of the most reliable gamuts for gpu testing lol

[wise wigeon]

And some cards look way better in synthetics then they are in actual performance

[mortal grail]

You say that like amd is 2:1 in 3dmark

Which isn't true at all

[wise wigeon]

I never said that though?

[mortal grail]

Heavily implying it

It's either that or "same performance so same price like $900"

[worn wave]

3dmark is like the best general gpu bench you can do (other than testing a ton of different games)

[mortal grail]

Your words^

[wise wigeon]

Because that’s the trend of AMD

In that last two generations

[mortal grail]

Even tho they themselves said in several articles it'll be "$480-$550"?

[wise wigeon]

That’s why 7900xt was pretty much doa at launch

[mortal grail]

I'm all for being doubtful but AMD literally said this in the last 3 days

They themselves said it

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9070-series-to-have-balance-of-power-and-price-similar-to-the-rx-7800-xt-and-rx-7900-gre

[wise wigeon]

Can I get the article because I’ve mostly been ignoring leaks and rumors for the last few days because the YouTube vids are insufferable

[mortal grail]

There's one

[wise wigeon]

K lemme see

[mortal grail]

Lol

[wise wigeon]

Did you read the article?

[mortal grail]

Yeah, it's also backed up with this
https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/radeon-rx-9070-xt-price-launch-rumor

[wise wigeon]

Only price stated was not 300 but not 1000

[mortal grail]

Again grain of salt with everything but there's a LOT circling rn that they're going pretty aggressive on the supposed price

[wise wigeon]

Which is like

A nothing burger

[mortal grail]

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-custom-model-listed-530-usd-specs-navi-48-gpu-clock-3-ghz/

Lol

[wise wigeon]

Yeah and we had speculations of 1300-1500 dollar 5080s like two weeks ago

I’m just holding off til official info

If it’s truly that good for the price I’ll buy it

[worthy meteor]

There's a decent change AMD held off on announcement to undercut Nvidia's announced price, we'll see

[mortal grail]

I said that too but you keep making it sound like I think you shouldn't buy a 5080

So it's like ???

[wise wigeon]

If not I’ll go for something else

[mortal grail]

I don't draw this info from no where

[wise wigeon]

Huh

[mortal grail]

And I said "grain of salt" for all of this

[wise wigeon]

No I’m mostly saying I’m not gonna trust leaks

[worthy meteor]

I mean it's not like we can even buy a 5080 rn, we'd probably see AMD's announcement by the time 5080 drops

[wise wigeon]

Except you say take it with a grain of salt, but hype it up hard in the same sentence

[wise wigeon]

Exactly

[mortal grail]

Hype it up how

[wise wigeon]

My plan rn is 5080

[mortal grail]

I'm saying wait for reviews

[mortal grail]

Again^

Stop

[wise wigeon]

If better options come I’ll change it

Also you kinda did

Downplaying unknown performance gains being “oh it’s just a refresh”

[mortal grail]

Cos it is????

Blackwell is ada refresh

[worthy meteor]

Just keep an open mind and look at the reviews before it drops

[mortal grail]

They're both tsmc n4

Brother this was in Nvidia's roadmap for years

[wise wigeon]

That’s not my point

[worthy meteor]

It's only a refresh, the actual performance gains can be anywhere from like 0-30%, all depends on how it ends up doing in benches

[wise wigeon]

Which I’ll wait for

[mortal grail]

I keep getting all these derived extremes

I'm not saying anything you're thinking

[wise wigeon]

But no you can start trashing something and then go “not trying to dissuade you for buy this”

Cant*

[mortal grail]

💀

I only said 5080 giving mixed signals

How is that trashing

A refresh is a statement of fact

How is that trashing

Pick a fight with someone else if you're not interested in a genuine suggestion thanks

[dusk knot]

Zero percent....💀

[wise wigeon]

Brother I started it with just saying I’m thinking of a 5080 upgrade

[mortal grail]

And I said wait and see what the 9070 xt is like

[wise wigeon]

We were having a pleasant convo about cases before

[mortal grail]

Look where that ended huh

[wise wigeon]

We’ll get more info before the 5080 launches

[worthy meteor]

Who knows, maybe Nvidia pulls an Intel and performance regresses like current gen Intel lol

[wise wigeon]

Rather get reliable 3rd party over first party or leaks

5080 is just the plan for now

Because I’m not paying 2k for a 5090

But if more reliable stuff comes out about the AMD cards being that good in terms of value I’ll go for it

But if it ends up being oh they might trade blows but for a slightly smaller msrp I’ll probably go Nvidia for extra features

Not a very unreasonable take yeah?

I just temper my own expectations instead of hyping myself up with sensational leaks that may or may not be fake

[weak cedar]

didn't know this was a thing

[wise wigeon]

God I forgot they made a 4th

I love jack black but

Man they need to stop shoving him into everything

Kung fu panda I mean makes sense, but like do we need a 4th, no

Just like we didn’t need a second megamind

[rancid juniper]

Kung fu panda peaked at 3

[wise wigeon]

2

[opaque sedge]

1

[rancid juniper]

0

[wise wigeon]

But yeah idk 2 just had a better vanilla in and story

[rancid juniper]

That aside, 2 had a good theme

[wise wigeon]

It’s like shriek

Shrek*

[rancid juniper]

Now we getting Shrek 5 soon

[wise wigeon]

Except shriek 3 was bad

Shrek

[opaque sedge]

I haven’t watched shrek now that i think abt it

[wise wigeon]

Damn autocorrect

They’re alright

[rancid juniper]

Green OGRE

[opaque sedge]

I only know some plot points and the infamous donkey who apparently courted a damn dragon

[wise wigeon]

Not gonna hype it up to hard because like it’s a kids movie

[rancid juniper]

Still a classic tho

[wise wigeon]

Yeah

[opaque sedge]

Classic reminds me there’s not a lot of modern good action rpg games are they

[nocturne flicker]

Ain't nothing wrong with adults watching material aimed towards kids. They usually expect that anyways and try to bake in adult undertones. For the good stuff anyways

[opaque sedge]

Usually the good ones are all old classics like the elder scroll series

[wise wigeon]

But it’s like tempering expectations, sonic 3 is gonna be peak for some people and for others it apparently ruins their life

[rancid juniper]

That post about the dad was wild

Like I think he's crazy

[wise wigeon]

He’s a grifter

They always are

[rancid juniper]

[wise wigeon]

Like bro it’s not that serious

[opaque sedge]

What post?

[rancid juniper]

One moment

[wise wigeon]

Political grifter posted a review of sonic 3

[opaque sedge]

[wise wigeon]

Why I actively tried avoiding a screenshot

[opaque sedge]

Jesus

[nocturne flicker]

What, nerdrotic or whatever his name is?

[wise wigeon]

M.W,

Those initials

[rancid juniper]

@opaque sedge https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-NAp8RNvtRE

This bozo

[weak cedar]

4th movie was a person bringing people back from the dead to steal there kung fo

[rancid juniper]

Bro forgot that kids movies not too long ago also faced dark themes

[nocturne flicker]

Ah, I see

That ding dong

[rancid juniper]

Bro would go livid if he watched that Notre Dame movie from disney

[nocturne flicker]

They also did it with the Mario Movie

[wise wigeon]

It’s also an adaptation, they even toned it down

[opaque sedge]

Broke him as a father? So he’s uses his status as a father as a medium to state his opinion 💀 immediately red flag imo

[rancid juniper]

😂

[nocturne flicker]

They all would go ballistic if anything got released nowdays. Their entire thing is outrage and being triggered and pretending like everything is pushing an agenda

[rancid juniper]

Some was still in even if it's watered down

[wise wigeon]

As a dad shrek 4 ruined me, I wish I could just ||poof my kids out of existence||

[rancid juniper]

Lmfao

[rancid juniper]

THIS

[nocturne flicker]

If Terminator 2 got released in 2024, they'd have a melt down over Sarah Connor being tough strong woman

[rancid juniper]

Seriously I legit think after the big bad virus happened late 2019 it further influenced more stupidity

[wise wigeon]

Yeah too many people inserting politics into just casual things

[rancid juniper]

It was never THIS bad pre 2019 imo

[opaque sedge]

Ngl it feels like the world was more progressive decades ago than today

[wise wigeon]

Pandemic made people too used to posting opinions online

[rancid juniper]

I know someone is gonna spout bs on one of my favorite movies Wall-E

[opaque sedge]

I’m abt to type wall e into reddit now lol

[rancid juniper]

Lol

[wise wigeon]

Like god there are so many flat earthers now

[nocturne flicker]

People just discovered you could make a lot of money promoting outrage online

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[nocturne flicker]

And the more outrage you provoke the more it sways conversation and opinions

[rancid juniper]

Hatred and terrible stuff lingers around more than the good... Drama n all it sells

[wise wigeon]

Though tbf there have been some wacky things as of late

[rancid juniper]

True but man do people create some of the most braindead takes imaginable

[opaque sedge]

Looks like its pretty loved

[wise wigeon]

When I went into last year I wasn’t expecting a hilarious South Korean coup

[nocturne flicker]

Like all this everything is woke evil mind control agenda in movies and tv is literally just a continuation of the Anti-SJW craze of the 2010s

[rancid juniper]

Better be

[opaque sedge]

Would try twitter but i haven’t dared make an acc

Reddit is bad enough

[wise wigeon]

Or a high level executive to be erased by Luigi the meme lord assassin

[rancid juniper]

Twitter is literally social media hell

[opaque sedge]

Reddit reminds this guy is apparently the one responsible for creating pcmr

[rancid juniper]

Pedro, you created an army that resents console players

[fresh timber]

if it starts at a good price im abondoning my nvidia shilling

[rancid juniper]

$50

[sage sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/bfh-deagle-deagle-secret-secret-reload-bfh-battlefield-hardline-gif-27094427

[fresh timber]

if its $50 im going amd again

[rancid juniper]

XD

[wise wigeon]

You were Nvidia shilling?

[fresh timber]

i shill

[opaque sedge]

Pedro escobar with his own private militia

[fresh timber]

it makes more sense for my usedcase so i view amd as poop

[unreal trail]

Sarah Connor wasn't made to stick it to the chuds lol

[rancid juniper]

Wild

[wise wigeon]

Oh you use cuda for stuff?

[opaque sedge]

Pablo escobar basically had an army right?

[fresh timber]

i use the encoders

streaming

[wise wigeon]

Ah

Yeah they are still better

[fresh timber]

amd is poo at that

[opaque sedge]

Yeah i should i have thought twice before posting that 💀

[fresh timber]

even an arc a310 for $100 beats me

[unreal trail]

AMD is fine at rasterization though

[rancid juniper]

Digital footprint now

[wise wigeon]

And is making strides at catching up but not fast enough

[fresh timber]

and i wasnt talking aboiut that

[unreal trail]

I am

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-gif-23893070

[wise wigeon]

And encoders doodoo though

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-bird-legs-gif-7418853116988366584

[opaque sedge]

NOO PLS SPARE ME HOW WILL I EVER GET A JOB

[unreal trail]

[wise wigeon]

Man remember when streamers had two pc setups with a dedicated stream pc

[unreal trail]

yes

ManvsGame

[fresh timber]

fsr 4 seems promising

[nocturne flicker]

Come work for gas station. Big mones

[rancid juniper]

I got like two encoders to use

Either AMD HW or Quicksync

[wise wigeon]

I’ll need more testing on both sides

[nocturne flicker]

We'll start you at $9 in an area charging $900 for rent

[unreal trail]

work for Popeyes

[opaque sedge]

Lemme guess in the middle of a desert town

[wise wigeon]

Fsr looks good and so does dlss 4 but I need more than limited curated results

[opaque sedge]

Cuz that’s the only place that’ll accept the low quality human i am

[nocturne flicker]

Middle of a small southern town about 20 minutes from the nearest hospital

[unreal trail]

14 an hour cant even get you a place to live and utilities covered

[wise wigeon]

Unless you live in like Montana or something

[fresh timber]

ooo i could get an arc a310 and figure out how cheap i ccan make the rest of the pc

streaming pc go brr

[rancid juniper]

$1 per second or $1000 per hour?

[fresh timber]

$1 per second

u make $3600 a hour

and my bank account will look cool as hell

[rancid juniper]

Good choice

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-simpson-gif-13518564799186478937

[unreal trail]

to the IRS

[fresh timber]

imagine going to somebody and showing your account go up $1 a second

[opaque sedge]

You guys will forget my controversial statement right?

[fresh timber]

ill pay my taxes,

i dont work for it

i dont complain

[rancid juniper]

Ya, give me 5090 In return

[wise wigeon]

Huh?

[opaque sedge]

Bruh i would have to turn into an escobar myself for that 😭

[rancid juniper]

Bruh

[fresh timber]

$1 a second= $31,536,000 a year

[unreal trail]

dragon quest HD-2D bombed

[weak cedar]

The 4th movie is basiccly passing the torch to a new person instead of keeping the quota as well so not sure if there will be a 5th one

[opaque sedge]

5090 is 4 grand in Australia apparently

[fresh timber]

eeven if irs takes half im still rich as ahh

[rancid juniper]

Too bad, mid square enix game

[unreal trail]

lol

[fresh timber]

ill just live like i only make $1mil a year or something

[wise wigeon]

That’s still a good life

[fresh timber]

excatly

[opaque sedge]

Europe its almost 2.5k euros 💀

[wise wigeon]

Make more than doctors

[fresh timber]

how the rich stay richer, dont scale your life with ur income

[opaque sedge]

Is the 5090 available in asian countries?

[unreal trail]

transfer half of that income to offshore bank accounts like Congress does

[fresh timber]

just because u make 100k u dont need to live like that

[wise wigeon]

I mean if you got student loans

I rather just nip it in the bud immediately

I’ll live like I’m poor at for a few years to blow through whatever loans

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

imagine student loans

[lone mango]

Besides 264 they are almost as good as nvidia

[fresh timber]

[lone mango]

Like you can only tell the difference on vmaf graphs

[fresh timber]

so theirs a mesruable diffrence

[opaque sedge]

I wonder if sometimes people in china who have enough money personally import a regular version of a 90class card from somewhere like japan or korea

[fresh timber]

meaning we can infact say which is ass and not

[wise wigeon]

Sounds like cope to me

[opaque sedge]

Cuz they get a cut down dragon version

Cuz US

[lone mango]

A couple points lower isnt ass

[fresh timber]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-intel-nvidia-video-encoding-performance-quality-tested

kek

w title

[wise wigeon]

Tom’s hardware is so so though ain’t it

They’re very hit or miss

[rancid juniper]

x264 is the go to if you want the best quality

[nocturne flicker]

Bruh, an income of 100k isn't even rich. That isn't even considered a part of the upper middle class in a lot of states

[lone mango]

Thanks for proving my point

[fresh timber]

womp womp

[wise wigeon]

Pc parts hella expensive in Japan though

[fresh timber]

id kill for 100k a year

why? i make $0 a year

could move out with that

[wise wigeon]

Well 100k isn’t 100k after taxes

[fresh timber]

just.. not near chicago

[wise wigeon]

And with inflation

[fresh timber]

that mf sucks up cash

[rancid juniper]

Be CEO and cheat to win I think

[nocturne flicker]

I'd really like it, but acting like people with 100k income are the rich isn't realistic. We are talking about 200, 300, 400k+ income

[wise wigeon]

You can’t even buy a house without daily with 100k a year now

[fresh timber]

if my mama can support me on 80k ish a year, i think where fine

[fresh timber]

um... move somewhere cheaper??

[opaque sedge]

Bruh just managed to watch 2 minutes of this and looks like he didn’t even pay attention to the movies and i gotta ask wasn’t sonic the hype game series for people his age when they were kids he musta had a sad childhood 💀

[fresh timber]

houses expensive yes, but it verys to lcoaiton

[rancid juniper]

He very much did, I'm bummed that he's a dad tbh

[wise wigeon]

The average in the us is over 400k

[lone mango]

Well the market is still messed up

[wise wigeon]

Boomin how old are you

[fresh timber]

thats what a morgage is for 🙂 also dont buy a house in this market

[opaque sedge]

Cool how do u guarantee a stable income with your skillset when moving somewhere cheaper

[fresh timber]

that aint for me to decide ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fresh timber]

18, all i know is my mama says she wishes she made 100k a year

[opaque sedge]

Different places have different job opportunities and cheaper places may not have the best for people with specific skillsets

And remote work isn’t readily available to many

[fresh timber]

im an expensiev child

[nocturne flicker]

Houses are cheaper in economically destitute, less attractive areas of the country. There are also less houses being built in those areas so you'll be getting older and older homes over time

[rancid juniper]

Makes sense why people pulling off dumb stuff online to generate more income than your average blue collar worker

[wise wigeon]

If you a single child then yes you are

[fresh timber]

also lets make healt insurance not expenisve

[velvet summit]

wHAT

[fresh timber]

yes, yes i am a only child

she spoils me a bit, she buys the good internet just for me

[wise wigeon]

God I love futurecanoe

[velvet summit]

wtf happened for that to become charcoal

💀

[opaque sedge]

I’m an only child too i will say i did not have a very enriching childhood 💀

[wise wigeon]

Not that

[fresh timber]

only downside, your told to do everything

[opaque sedge]

He burned his meat 😔

[fresh timber]

beat me

[wise wigeon]

80k a year is pretty workable for a single child

[fresh timber]

yuh

we survive

[nocturne flicker]

I was the youngest child of two. We still live with my mother and I'm the one told to do everything

[fresh timber]

she just compllains that her bank account looks a bit empty

[wise wigeon]

My parents made less for 5 kids

[fresh timber]

im very expensive

i just costed her $200 so i can see at night

[opaque sedge]

damn it’s typically the middle or oldest who gets all the chores

[wise wigeon]

I would know

I’m the oldest

[fresh timber]

so happy my brother is a 32 year old bum

❤️

my mom makes sure i do not become him like hes even her kid

[nocturne flicker]

I live upstairs, my sister lives in the basement. I have higher rent and am the only one who has chores. And I work full time at a job that pays 2/3rds of what my sister gets an hour

[opaque sedge]

Hey atleast ur not the middle child so ur still somewhat loved

[wise wigeon]

That’s like almost the amount of money I spend in a month

[fresh timber]

kek, i get more love than all of you combined

[fresh timber]

have you seen my health insurance

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-nice-happy-for-you-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-1927193140186872022

[wise wigeon]

Yeah well expectations and being the beta tester kinda sucks

[fresh timber]

awe u picked the black one just for me ❤️ i knew you loved mew too

[velvet summit]

beta tester

[unreal trail]

https://fixvx.com/Enron/status/1876366506583261393?t=CS1y6ciBY7Vpu1kyTy-Awg&s=19

[fresh timber]

idk how parents can afford more than one kid, health insurance for me is $600 a month

[wise wigeon]

lol

[fresh timber]

lets just say when im on my own im not buying insurance

[wise wigeon]

Uh no

[opaque sedge]

I dont even have health insurance

[fresh timber]

rn its useful for.. glasses

[nocturne flicker]

Also each time I point out the disparity between my sister and I in relation to what we do and pay I get threatened with a rent increase

[velvet summit]

you have health insurance and still have to pay $200 for glasses?

[opaque sedge]

Ever since i came to America the only times i prolly saw a doctor was for vaccinations required by schools and once in an er last year

[wise wigeon]

Like bro I pay $75 for two pairs without insurance

[fresh timber]

they wanted $150 to fix a single lense, so my mom bought two pair for $200 cause it made more sense

[velvet summit]

glasses are free for me with insurance

[fresh timber]

insrunace makes no sense

[velvet summit]

free once every 2 years

[fresh timber]

if i dont go over my allowance each year its free

but she puts antiglare on mines

[velvet summit]

adding antiglare makes it $200?

[fresh timber]

i have a pair with and without it, makes a big diffrence driving

[fresh timber]

thats including two pair

[velvet summit]

oh is this a second pair

oh

[wise wigeon]

Anyway

[fresh timber]

cause insurance didnt wanna cover it

for some reason

[wise wigeon]

Still dunno if I go full atx or not

[fresh timber]

but hey, two pair for $200 is a steal

i got to swipe the debit card

🙂

[wise wigeon]

Feel like the convenience of having a small pc on a desk is offset by the pain it’s gonna be to clean and work with

[velvet summit]

i cant even swipe my cards

[fresh timber]

how small we talking baout

[velvet summit]

i have to either insert them or tap them, swiping is disabled

[fresh timber]

im waiting for my legion go refund rn funna put $600 in the bank and look at them

[velvet summit]

since they are chipped cards

[mental yoke]

what would happen if I put 128 Gb of ram on a windows 7

[fresh timber]

its 5-7 business days for refund so im anxious

[wise wigeon]

Just get a new card Jesus

[velvet summit]

depends

[nocturne flicker]

You can still swipe the chipped cards, you just have to have enough problems with a chip that the machine tells you to just swipe it

[wise wigeon]

They you would have 128gb of ram on a windows 7 computer

What of it

[mental yoke]

its from 2005

[wise wigeon]

Idk what you’re asking though lol

[fresh timber]

somebody give me an excuse for am5

[wise wigeon]

No

[mental yoke]

oh wait not 2005

2009

[solid fern]

Hi, I'm Vasyl. Are you looking for a job for money? I can help you.

[mental yoke]

2005 was the old pc

[wise wigeon]

Like I don’t see how this is making anything clearer

[fresh timber]

hello vasly named happy tomato

[deep parcel]

is this uh a joke? it seems almost satire

[wise wigeon]

Yes it is

[fresh timber]

how happy of a tomato are you seeing you want to scam people?

[solid fern]

Yeah, I'm here.

[velvet summit]

iirc windows 7 home is 16gb
and i just check and yeah it has a software limit apparently

[deep parcel]

ah ok lol I wasnt 100% sure

[mental yoke]

like it only has a 128 gb or smth hard drive

[nocturne flicker]

Enron is the biggest giveaway

[wise wigeon]

You said ram Bruv

[mental yoke]

id have equal amount of ram memory to storage

[velvet summit]

age isn't the limiting factor, it's the windows edition

[deep parcel]

thats what I thought too but lol

[fresh timber]

i want 2tb of ram

[dusk knot]

No you don't

[fresh timber]

i said want not need

[wise wigeon]

Like I don’t get what you want

[dusk knot]

You don't want it either

[mental yoke]

i think I have home basic with Mb ram

[wise wigeon]

What are you doing with it

[mental yoke]

eh just wanted to know with that large of a bottle neck LOL

[velvet summit]

huh

[wise wigeon]

For what

[lone mango]

What is this man saying

[dusk knot]

It's like having a giant warehouse and you only using 5% of it lol

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-jesse-walter-white-gif-25245234

[wise wigeon]

You ain’t running nothing modern with a 2009 pc

[fresh timber]

will i have 256 cores to go with it

[velvet summit]

core duo

128gb ram

[lone mango]

[velvet summit]

gt710

50gb hdd

sound card

[fresh timber]

i should abuse the usbc on my pc to make it a one cable solution and giving the ability to conenct other devices

UGH microcenter is mocking how poor i am

[lone mango]

Nice board too

Ram would also blend in well

[misty sparrow]

I wonder why Pro supports more RAM than Home

Is it just a software tweak that's different in Pro or?

[lone mango]

To make the upsell make more sense

[dusk knot]

Well damn ....

[lone mango]

But nobody buys keys directly from microshaft anyway so it doesnt matter

[dusk knot]

That's an attractive price

[fresh timber]

its microcenter, its very attracctive

id marry the place if i could

[dusk knot]

45 min drive for me

[fresh timber]

for a little less

[fresh timber]

around 30m for me

[lone mango]

Could be worse

[fresh timber]

worth it cause i dont pay gas

[dusk knot]

I'd rather have a 9700x

[fresh timber]

they made 9700x good value

[dusk knot]

It's fine. I love driving far distances when it's worth it.

I would marry micro center if I had a ton of money

[lone mango]

Yeah its worth I like driving to micro center

Reminds me of fry's

[dusk knot]

I would buy a 9800x3d bundle if I could

[fresh timber]

i have something isimilar

i could barley afford this

[dusk knot]

I could....but I need to travel

Need to focus on what's more important 😤

[fresh timber]

7800x3d+7700xt

ez combo

[dusk knot]

This year is my year. No more sitting around

[fresh timber]

go buy it

eh gpu cost too much

how do u design a website so bad

[dusk knot]

AMD? I'm good, pal

[fresh timber]

microcenter site gives me 50 problems a hour

[wise wigeon]

Must be nice to be near a microcenter

[fresh timber]

o

7600x

ugh resist upgrading my server to a 7600xx

[wise wigeon]

Tf would they open one in Miami and not Orlando

[fresh timber]

miami is better

duh

[wise wigeon]

Eh

They’d get more traffic in Orlando

[fresh timber]

miami heat

[wise wigeon]

Also Miami is 4 hours away from me 😦

[dusk knot]

Going there soon, going to build 2 PCs

[fresh timber]

kek

i could upgrade my server for $600 or save and be resposnable

[wise wigeon]

Save

[fresh timber]

and use the money for small things like ram

no

[wise wigeon]

Yes

[fresh timber]

now that u say it i dont wanan do it

i was thinking it

[wise wigeon]

You fool you fell for the classic blunder

Reverse psychology

[fresh timber]

finding the rare 12gb 3080

[wise wigeon]

Why

[dusk knot]

10 GB. Nope

I feel like whoever buys the 5080 might fall under the same situation of early 3080 adopters

[wise wigeon]

Eh

What’s the alternative in next gen

[fresh timber]

ong

[fresh timber]

iv never seen it before thats why

[wise wigeon]

Another 16 gb card

So like idk

[fresh timber]

12gb on top

[wise wigeon]

They’ll probably release a super in like a year

[tranquil pebble]

16 GB is going to be the next 8 GB... and overstay its welcome

[wise wigeon]

But that’s a whole year out

[fresh timber]

5070ti my beloved

[dusk knot]

5080ti or 5080 super 20gb or something lol

[wise wigeon]

Eventually

[fresh timber]

5080ti

might

but we gotta wait fo that

[tranquil pebble]

or Nvidia pulls a 900 series and puts like 16 + 4 GB VRAM and the last 4 GB are slower

[wise wigeon]

But like if you have a 16gb 5080 what’s the other alternative 16 gb 9070 XT or an older card with probably worse raster

[fresh timber]

9070 🤮

[dusk knot]

They're going to.....

Only the "smart" people wait

[mental yoke]

I just have some gpu sticks laying around and wondered what would happen if i did, but anyways it doesn't even want to boot

so its lucky

[wise wigeon]

…

[mental yoke]

NOT GPU

bruh stroke

ram

[wise wigeon]

I can’t believe I’ve been entertaining trolling for so long

[mental yoke]

💀

im not

I was genuinely wondering

if it automatically limits it, or it would try and start overheating everything

[wise wigeon]

Brother what

[fresh timber]

i miss my old nvidia gpu

my friend has my 1660 super 😦

[tranquil pebble]

look what I just bought lol

[fresh timber]

I want

[misty sparrow]

I can't believe people are selling 3080 10GBs close to the price of a 4070

[fresh timber]

Lolll

[misty sparrow]

I think 3080 10GBs should be like $350 at max

and even thats pushing it

[dusk knot]

Mhmm

[tranquil pebble]

if this works I will then proceed with buying an MI100

[fresh timber]

ill take a 3080 ftw3

❤️

[misty sparrow]

i wouldnt even buy it even if EVGA made it

im pretty sure once 5070 comes out the prices of 4070 will go down on ebay

[ancient swift]

https://youtu.be/2xE1SIwLYe4?si=VZ5v_ySfsvxPTU46

[fresh timber]

they have to

[wise wigeon]

God azor needs to stop talking

[fresh timber]

who

[tranquil pebble]

ok... bruh apparently this Instinct supports video out and can game. LOL

[wise wigeon]

Radeon man

[misty sparrow]

video out?

[tranquil pebble]

funny version of Vega II

[wise wigeon]

He always does this and then undedelivers

[safe cape]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-17640294432761192580

[misty sparrow]

don't you mean video in or?

because why would a graphics card not support video out

[tranquil pebble]

it is a compute card. These almost never support graphics.

[misty sparrow]

hm

[fresh timber]

igpu

magic

now it runs game

[misty sparrow]

never heard of compute cards, it just looked like a graphics card to me

what's a compute card used for, just compiling stuff or?

[safe cape]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-cry-reading-pepe-the-frog-sad-gif-17607942

no numbers

[tranquil pebble]

HPC which is like supercomputing type stuff

[ancient swift]

Embargo restrictions or what not

[fresh timber]

5950x user

can i borrow it permently

5900xt

is worth?

[safe cape]

the next one will be a good deal ps5 perf on a handheld but the price

[fresh timber]

Ima sell ps5 if that happens

[ancient swift]

I mean someone turned the PS5 into a tablet already and they managed to put an oled 1440p or 4k I can't remember screen on it

https://youtu.be/W4PHhurAhwc?si=knfFMBh0nq6M8xP- Like this is insane.

no battery though I think so you still need a wall outlet but still.

[icy ore]

[misty sparrow]

Same guy also made the thinnest PS5 imaginable but had made a separate external cooling block for the device

very impressive though, entire thing was smaller than the width of a quarter

[ancient swift]

Ye he does some cool things. would be cool to have his skills lol

[valid musk]

any of you guys think you could fix this?

it dropped off the freeway

[lone mango]

no i cannot fix that

[wooden lintel]

what is laptop shipping like on NewEgg? I have a to send it to someone else's house before I get there. wondering if 2-3 business days is possible before trying to find something there instead of amazon

[velvet summit]

newegg generally is pretty fast for me but that depends on where you live

[fresh timber]

Egg

[tranquil pebble]

nog

yuck

[misty sparrow]

imagine spending $120 more just to unlock every aircraft

thats quite sad

[fresh timber]

dont play the game, ez

person: doesnt like game
option a, ignores it and moves on
option b, talks smack about it

[misty sparrow]

people who fly planes will like it though

they do like their flight sims

although the mixed reviews might say otherwise not sure

[fresh timber]

what % of the mixed reviews are people with proper flight sims

as far as im aware, sim people like this game

[pliant berry]

doesn't have crash physics

i no like

[fresh timber]

sad

i crashed into buildings nothng happened

[pliant berry]

i want the beamng of aviation

[fresh timber]

That would be so fun

[dusk knot]

Hhhhm^3

[dusk knot]

It is what it is. If you're a real pilot like my younger brother, it's worth it.

[hoary zodiac]

🥱

[nocturne flicker]

Vasyl the Tomato

[misty sparrow]

One of the most helpful reviews is by an actual pilot

And it’s negative

pretty great and long review all things considered

[hoary zodiac]

See

It's fine if it's like FSX

Where you're buying for the next decade

[shy pond]

Can I get a good pre-build pc for £1000?

[hoary zodiac]

But if they're just going to drop another FS

[idle nexus]

wild that these two are supposed to perform the same

[shy pond]

Wow

[hoary zodiac]

It's sarcasm btw

[idle nexus]

lol I highly doubt it. It's gonna be Nvidia smoke & mirrors

[hoary zodiac]

They won't perform the same

far from it

[shy pond]

I thought the higher the number the better it is?

[idle nexus]

ten higher? wym?

[shy pond]

The*

[idle nexus]

like usually the previous gen xx90 is next gen's xx70 in terms of performance?

[hoary zodiac]

even with on paper specs alone the 5070 stands no chance

That's before going into real world benchmarks

[idle nexus]

did 4070 actually perform like 3090? I remember skepticism but never saw it dis/proven

[shy pond]

Is a 4060 good?

[idle nexus]

no

[hoary zodiac]

what are you using the 4060 for?

gaming?

[idle nexus]

I mean 16gb version is alright ig but there's better for cheaper

[hoary zodiac]

If yes then no

[shy pond]

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

no

[shy pond]

Damn

My friend said it was good

[idle nexus]

4060ti is a 3060ti

lol

[hoary zodiac]

6750XT could be found at the 4060 price range

[idle nexus]

with frame gen

Intel B580 is $250 & beats 4060 in most games at 1440p

has weird driver overhead presently so loses more often at 1080p

[hoary zodiac]

Even with a lower end cpu?

[shy pond]

I just want to get a good pre-build for £1000

[idle nexus]

depends how low end

[hoary zodiac]

R5 5500 let's say

[idle nexus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYOj-r_-3mA

[hoary zodiac]

You can get one for 1000

It just won't be good

[shy pond]

Will it be a good one?

[shy pond]

Damn

[fresh timber]

uk

[idle nexus]

TLDR:

[hoary zodiac]

Prebuilts don't optimise for value

[fresh timber]

explain in words

[fresh timber]

better to comission a shop

[shy pond]

Should I build my own then?

[hoary zodiac]

If you're able

absolutely

[shy pond]

Do you know any good specs that all add up to £1000 because £1000 is my budget right now

[rancid juniper]

don't pair intel arc battlemage with older cpus

[hoary zodiac]

hold up I'm going to whip up a parts list

[idle nexus]

B580 is a great price:performance GPU if you have a good CPU or plan to build with one. Using a weaker CPU, the B580 is still pretty good but not quite as amazing as day one reviews suggested

[fresh timber]

so dont pair a budget gpu with a budget cpu?

[idle nexus]

That's true at 1440p but even more true at 1080p

[rancid juniper]

yea pretty much

[fresh timber]

how intel fumble

[hoary zodiac]

That is the entire controversy

still better than 4060

[rancid juniper]

it is a driver problem so that can be fixed

[hoary zodiac]

NgreedAI still manage to come how worse

[idle nexus]

I'd probably draw the line at like 7600x/13600K-ish

[fresh timber]

idk if id pair a b580 with a 13600k unless u get the 13600k for a good price

[hoary zodiac]

13600k is not low end

[fresh timber]

frrrr??

[idle nexus]

but that still begs a question: if you don't have/plan to use a 7600x or 13600K or higher, what should you get instead? 7600XT? cuz 4060 is still derp

[rancid juniper]

cant wait to see this hit $200 in like 1yr+ from now

[fresh timber]

tbh this cpu did cost $300

[rancid juniper]

yea i bought my 13600k for $300 months after it released

[idle nexus]

lol I did not expect this to age so poorly ngl. I paid almost double the day it came out https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i9-13900KS-Desktop-Processor-P-cores/dp/B0BPXCRWB2?

[fresh timber]

i got mines two chirstmas ago

[rancid juniper]

WHAT???

😂

[fresh timber]

im still upset i got the 13600kf and used ddr4

why didnt i wait a extra 2 weeks to afford ddr5

[idle nexus]

uh-ohhh here I go... which DDR4 are you using? lol

[worn wave]

New, 7600xt. Used: 5700xt, 2060, 2080, 3060ti, 6700xt

[rancid juniper]

2666mhz CL24

😏

[fresh timber]

lmfao

3500mt cl17

thast what im running currently

[idle nexus]

2060? ehh

[fresh timber]

corsair vengance with 4 sticks aint a bad overclocker

[idle nexus]

what's your XMP?

[fresh timber]

3200 cl16

[idle nexus]

heckk

[fresh timber]

heck?

[worn wave]

If you can fine one cheap. 5700xt is usually gonna be the better budget pick though

[idle nexus]

do you have CPU-Z installed?

[fresh timber]

yeah why

i lied

i dont

[rancid juniper]

have you seen my new ram tune? @idle nexus

[fresh timber]

cpu z is fun

[rancid juniper]

all i can say, its slower than xmp

[fresh timber]

i dont know why i asked for a 13600kf for chirstmas over a 7700x and waitijng cash to afford ddr5

[idle nexus]

heck 5700xt is only $130ish on ebay. Not bad. Assuming you were going to buy a B580 for $250, how would you better spend that same amount?

[fresh timber]

used 3070

no overhead problems yippie, just mid vram

[idle nexus]

8gb ehh

[hoary zodiac]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8hgmLc

[idle nexus]

I have a 3070 & I still say don't do it lol

[fresh timber]

hey thats my gpu

[hoary zodiac]

@shy pond

[fresh timber]

if arc had something faster than mines

[shy pond]

Yes?

[hoary zodiac]

see list above

[idle nexus]

supposedly there will be a 32 compute unit Battlemage GPU. B580 is 20 CUs

[hoary zodiac]

also

if you are willing to go overbudget

and go to 1050

you could get a 7800XT

[fresh timber]

if they have arc around a 7900xt i might buy

[hoary zodiac]

or

[fresh timber]

over nvdia, and thats if ALL my games works

[hoary zodiac]

maybe the list could be optimised more

[tranquil pebble]

I was hoping for a demo tbh

[hoary zodiac]

do you mind buying from aliexpress?

[fresh timber]

i am considering putting a a310 in a streaming pc one day if i get extra parts

[idle nexus]

install CPU-Z>go to SPD tab & tell me what it says here:

[fresh timber]

u could have asked, i know what chips i have

[worn wave]

Was just about to suggest AliExpress 7500F. Could also get a single tower cooler, it'll be enough and a gpu upgrade would be big

[fresh timber]

i have micron

[hoary zodiac]

how much weaker is the 8400F again?

[idle nexus]

well that's better than any Hynix besides DJR at least

[fresh timber]

it has those fake cores

[hoary zodiac]

oh right

7500F it is

[fresh timber]

so weaker

[hoary zodiac]

but how much

what do you mean fake cores

[idle nexus]

have you tried to run up to 4000 in Gear 1?

[fresh timber]

um, its already unstable at 3600

[hoary zodiac]

average bottom bin memory

[fresh timber]

with out making my subs and tirhsy boys loss asf atleast

3500 cl17 with tighter timings work better

[dusk knot]

Demos ..hahahaha

[worn wave]

Like E cores I think?

[fresh timber]

i could prob buy 4000mt ddr4 to play with it

[dusk knot]

The age of demos are over

[fresh timber]

amd verson of e cores

[hoary zodiac]

so not fake cores

[unreal trail]

Sony is bewildered why people dont put their PS5 in rest mode instead of turning them off completely.

[idle nexus]

you need some bdie to make your life easier fr lol

[fresh timber]

real

[hoary zodiac]

just worse

[idle nexus]

sorry meant to reply to this but no I have not lol

[fresh timber]

mines is in rest mode

[fresh timber]

passmark

[rancid juniper]

3000mhz CL14-16-16-32

[fresh timber]

lol

[worn wave]

1/2 the L3 cache though, which will hurt in games

[fresh timber]

my server has two diffrent ram sticks, ones is like 3200 another is like 3600, the cpu is a 2300x so i run it at 3000 kek

[idle nexus]

I've only played with Micron Rev E (I think--might've been N iirc? it's been awhile sorry)

[fresh timber]

i forgot wht app told you excatly which ram chips u got

i might have a photo of the sticker

can decode it

[hoary zodiac]

@shy pond if you are willing to use aliexpress, here's a better list https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xFsCwY

[idle nexus]

CPU-Z will only tell you Micron/Hynix/Samsung unfortunately

[fresh timber]

i think i have micron rev e

[idle nexus]

there was something uh

[fresh timber]

its mid

[idle nexus]

damn I probably have it somewhere but... Typhoon something?

[worthy meteor]

Typhoon burner guesses too but yea

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder how much of it is the ram and how much of it is corsair's crappy manfacturing

[fresh timber]

mhhhh

[shy pond]

Thanks

[fresh timber]

YES THAT

i remember

[idle nexus]

still got it cuz cloud storage gives you zero incentive to clean it out until it's almost full lol

lol nvm it's an empty folder

thanks Microsoft

[fresh timber]

im d die

[hoary zodiac]

sus?

[shy pond]

Yep

[hoary zodiac]

did this user get banned off newegg?

I don't see any mutual servers

[fresh timber]

wow

[idle nexus]

grab a set of these

[hoary zodiac]

is that

HP RGB RAM

AHAHHA

[fresh timber]

4 sticks of that stuf

🤔

[hoary zodiac]

the predator heatsink is so tall it looks like sodimms

[idle nexus]

get a 2x16 kit instead if you want 32gb

[fresh timber]

of course i do

32gb is peak

[idle nexus]

easier on the IMC for higher clocks

[fresh timber]

4 of 4 is fun

[idle nexus]

I saw 4000... let me see if I can find it again

[fresh timber]

honesntly i could just get and xmp and done

[idle nexus]

jk it's stinky Hynix CJR

[fresh timber]

i need to get rid of corsair in my system

my server will get a upgrade of 16gb ddr4 but the same type so it can run 3200 instead of 3000

[hoary zodiac]

corsair is a disgrace to the flash they soldered to the crappy pcbs

[fresh timber]

real

one of my sticks is milky white for 0 reason

every color is off

besdies red

[hoary zodiac]

🤨

[fresh timber]

i just want it out my system ;kek

[hoary zodiac]

average icue moment

[fresh timber]

nope

faulty from factory moment

[hoary zodiac]

average vengeance

this isn't even a meme

[fresh timber]

only reason i never rma cause im not going back to 16gb

[hoary zodiac]

the average vengeance really is faulty

[idle nexus]

I have these (now without heatspreaders) & they're the only bdie I had that would keep scaling at 2.0v lol https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374012?Item=N82E16820374012

[fresh timber]

yup

[fresh timber]

bdieee

its funny i looked at 1440p benchmarks for ddr4 vs ddr5 and 99% of the time theirs 0 diffrence

[hoary zodiac]

source?

[fresh timber]

so i didnt buy ddr5 stuff, waiting for am5 stuff

[hoary zodiac]

there's no way there's 0 difference

[fresh timber]

unless you count 1-2 fps

[rancid juniper]

Does ram power down makes a difference?

[fresh timber]

i hope you can see that

[hoary zodiac]

what's the source?

[fresh timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV3fDDLr918&t=688s

he doesnt show 1440p averages

so mid

but if u look at all the games

it really dosnt matter

[idle nexus]

4463c15 through ycroncher

[hoary zodiac]

in the same video you can see significant increases...

[fresh timber]

at 1080p

did he not show 1440p in this one

lemmie grab the other one smh

[hoary zodiac]

the whole video is 1080p

[fresh timber]

one second

i have a techpowerup benchamrk somewhere

that shows

[hoary zodiac]

https://youtu.be/OYqpr4Xpg6I?si=YiaZi8gvDO9yZlQh&t=468

seems more like a game issue than a ram issue

[fresh timber]

https://youtu.be/OYqpr4Xpg6I?t=568

we found it at the same time

[idle nexus]

3000? wasn't it higher before?

[hoary zodiac]

there are improvements

[fresh timber]

i was scrolling through my messages in another server

[rancid juniper]

Yea until it stopped working

[hoary zodiac]

I'm pretty sure it's a game issue

[fresh timber]

yeah

[rancid juniper]

Now pc fails to boot with 3200mhz

[idle nexus]

strange. BIOS update?

[rancid juniper]

Even gear 2 doesn't work

[fresh timber]

like cyberpunk its a 2 fps diffrence

[hoary zodiac]

what