general-chat

[fresh timber]

It’s not unstable, the game thinks it is

[idle nexus]

I liked Resident Evil (the games--the movies are universally terrible don't @ me). Is that related? lol

[rigid sinew]

no lolol

[idle nexus]

slightly decrease undervolt?

[rigid sinew]

but i havent seen resident evil

[idle nexus]

play Resident Evil but don't bother watching it

[fresh timber]

My head hurts

Ima geek out over 5070

[idle nexus]

or maybe watch it without playing the games so you can take it at face value instead of seeing what a massive, awful departure from the games it is imo

[hoary zodiac]

They're bad even then

[idle nexus]

yes

yes they are

I remember walking out of the first one thinking it would've been better if they just acted out the game exactly. Like I don't care if they're solving puzzles & finding keys, anything would've been better than that trash heap

the only thing worse than the movies is how many of them there are

there's 6 of them, i.e., you can be bombarded by trash for almost 12 hours

[dusk knot]

Why not Fifty eighty

[idle nexus]

probably more I dunno

[fresh timber]

out of my budget

[idle nexus]

also Milla Jovovich's character was nonsense & had nothing to do with the games

okay I'm finished

[hoary zodiac]

She's the director's wife

That's why she was in there

[idle nexus]

that Anderson guy made the 1995 Mortal Kombat? that was actually kinda good tbh lol

[dusk knot]

Expand budget

[idle nexus]

28 days/weeks Later was what RE should've been like

[fresh timber]

error, error

[idle nexus]

the best part of Mortal Kombat movie was the theme song

[fresh timber]

i pray 5070 is a 4080 in raster or witin 10%

[idle nexus]

"Test your might"

[dusk knot]

I'm a bit disappointed that the 5080 isn't a large upgrade form a 4080 without DLSS

My doubts are huge

[idle nexus]

lol do you think they make a 5090 then use a saw to cut it in half to get two 5080s or?

[craggy shoal]

Waiting for AMD now fr

[lone mango]

Most likely gonna be around 4070 super perf

[idle nexus]

supposedly there's gonna be a 32 compute unit Battlemage (B580 has 20 iirc)

[dusk knot]

Ikr. That new FSR 4 looks great, but we still need to see how it handles it's against DlSS

[lone mango]

Maybe I can get my brother on that

He has a matx board

[idle nexus]

also, I'm mad they kept the 5070 ti naming for 50 series

[dusk knot]

He'll love it. The case it's very straightforward

[fresh timber]

what the point of a 5070 then

[dusk knot]

Also the handle is neat

[idle nexus]

I can't wait for another Ti Super card

[lone mango]

Silly fr

[dusk knot]

5080 Ti with 20gb will be the one

[idle nexus]

Ti Stupid sounds better imo

lol they won't add VRAM, they'll just raise stock clocks like 5%

I'm just hating cuz my 4090 is obsolete now

[hoary zodiac]

Nah

4090 is still good

50 series is still a NgreedAI scam

[idle nexus]

I should probably upgrade my son from 2080ti to 3080ti at least

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe 5090 will be good but like

lol

[idle nexus]

I'm interested to see how multi frame gen or whatever looks & feels

actually 60fps jumping to 240fps

[lone mango]

[idle nexus]

how can that not suck?

[hoary zodiac]

I think it'll be tolerable in story games

For console standards

[idle nexus]

lol no!

console should be categorically ignored

heckin console

jk lol

[dusk knot]

NgreedAi strikes again

[hoary zodiac]

as in buying a 50 series card to run a game like it's on a ps4

[idle nexus]

I need 5090 to run 2016 Fallout 4 tho

[hoary zodiac]

Mods?

[idle nexus]

lol uh

[dusk knot]

Hmm???

[idle nexus]

only 189 rn

[pure mirage]

I wanna buy my first pc, my budget is around 1200 CAD for games like Rust, Marvel Rivals, and Cod. I already have a monitor, a mouse, and a keyboard so I need the pc. I don't care for aesthetics, build or prebuilt i don't mind. what do you guys recommend. Looking to game at 144fps 1080p

[idle nexus]

tbh I couldn't play FO4 anymore without mods

it'd be way too boring

[dusk knot]

Ok ..that is a need after all

[idle nexus]

well ya cuz pretty guns go bang bang & stuff

[hoary zodiac]

Are you ok with aliexpress parts?

[idle nexus]

there's this mod called Noveske that's 11.3gb

[dusk knot]

I need 5090 for 1440p 240hz no matter what

[idle nexus]

it's like a game in itself building a gun

[pure mirage]

no but if i have to

[hoary zodiac]

You can get a Ryzen 7 7500F for significant cheaper than 7600 retail

[idle nexus]

crappy vanilla guns in FO4 example (one of the worst)

Noveske

[fresh timber]

i want a 5070ti the msot

i was robbed of the win

[frigid stag]

Drivers timeout?

[hoary zodiac]

The hell?

Canadian prices are broken

[dusk knot]

Canada bad

The whole world really

So there's no escaping

[dusk knot]

You'll have to deal with it

[fresh timber]

No, but Iv had that happen

[hoary zodiac]

I'm just making the parts list so

[fresh timber]

Reason 30 on why I hate Radeon

[dusk knot]

What is your primary reason?

[lone mango]

skill issue

[dusk knot]

And I'm used to my GPU speaking over 420 Watts

[fresh timber]

Upscaling or driver stability, in between, maybe encoders being poo

[frigid stag]

Damn

[hoary zodiac]

Should've bought an nvidia

[frigid stag]

Must be a true space heater

[dusk knot]

Yes

My room gets really hot in the summer

Sometimes I need to take off my shirt

[frigid stag]

Need 5090 for best winter heating

[dusk knot]

Lolol

[frigid stag]

Gaming while toasty is crucial

[hoary zodiac]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3wxW9C

this is extremely meh

[dusk knot]

That CPU is a let down

[frigid stag]

AliExpress 5600 would go hard

For 70 bucks

[dusk knot]

Everything else looks decent

[fresh timber]

W excuse

Fsr 4 funna fix It

[lone mango]

h264 is not that good but just use h265

problem solved

Drivers are good so only thing is inconsistent upscaling

Occasionally fsr will look really good but a lot of the time it is not that good

[hoary zodiac]

canadian market is funky

[dusk knot]

Move down

To America

[worn wave]

Except the reccomended rating for a 2080ti is 600w, not 750. with a lower power cpu a good 550W could handle it. Is it a good choice? Maybe not, esp since it leaves little room to upgrade

[hoary zodiac]

It's not my list

[dusk knot]

Oh 😮

[hoary zodiac]

kinda tempted to just not ping him because of how bad of a value this list is

gonna look for prebuilts now

[lone mango]

Thats actually better than what I made

I went with new parts and actually went a little over the budget

[hoary zodiac]

ughhhhhhhh

not any better

guess I could put a 400F in there

[fresh timber]

nvidia on top

never buy amd again

[hoary zodiac]

yeah you do that

[lone mango]

Yeah yours is better

[hoary zodiac]

better for your use case

[lone mango]

Bro just likes complaining

[fresh timber]

if only amd could be a good allrounded 😦

[hoary zodiac]

13400F outperforms 5500 right?

[fresh timber]

in what?

multicore? yeah

[hoary zodiac]

anything

or is it still fine in single thread

[fresh timber]

the fact it support sup to gen 5 irrc

yup

gen 5

it supports ddr5

it has 4 more cores

the fact as 5500 is like a 3600 irrc and 13400 is like a 12600k which beats a 5500

[hoary zodiac]

gonna look up benchmarks

[fresh timber]

im suprised u didnt know this

[lone mango]

Yeah 5500 is not good

[fresh timber]

5500 will not even beat a 12400

12400 with ddr5? good luck too

[hoary zodiac]

ok

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not a database

[frigid stag]

It’s 850w recommended

650w is the minimum given

[fresh timber]

lol i kinda got the common cpus memorized

[frigid stag]

These gpus are insanely power limited out of the box especially

[hoary zodiac]

ok

[worn wave]

idk i was just going off of TPU site

[fresh timber]

passmark

[fresh timber]

lol my gpu rcomendation changed

it used to be 700w now its like 650 or something lemmie check

[hoary zodiac]

ok nope

[fresh timber]

WTF

THEY CHANGED IT FROM 700W TO 550W??

[hoary zodiac]

I actually cannot fit anything better than a 5500

💀

these prices

[fresh timber]

GPU CASUALLY PULLS 293W

idk where they got that number from

the stock tdp is 230w

so um

i was on the wrong verson.. but it the same recomendation

550w

which card

[hoary zodiac]

I need bacca fr

[fresh timber]

from nvidia

[idle nexus]

GPU casually pulls 867w?

[fresh timber]

haha 5070 beats you

haha

disables all the handicaps

[hoary zodiac]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3wxW9C

here's the first draft of the parts list

[fresh timber]

rivals runs good now too

[idle nexus]

beats? but I almost hit 1kW

[fresh timber]

mhh

wat for w at

yeah

[hoary zodiac]

I wouldn't buy anything just yet until you have more opinions from other people

I'm not too proud of the prices but it might just be the canadian market

it is... at least better than the prebuilt in terms of the amount of gpu power you get out of it

[fresh timber]

i want a 14900ks :mad`

[idle nexus]

if you put the K|ngP|n VBIOS on 2080ti, it's nuts

only card I've ever benched where PL really mattered tbh

[hoary zodiac]

I miss evga

[idle nexus]

same

KP is working with PNY now

I wonder how 5090 KP will be

yes

[hoary zodiac]

at least the kingpin name lives on

[idle nexus]

need water cooling at least if PL is removed

[hoary zodiac]

extreme overclockers will still get something to play with

[idle nexus]

I tried on Air & it throttled so hard lol

[fresh timber]

2.5-3 slot 5070 plz

[hoary zodiac]

gpu inflation is real

💀

[lone mango]

He said 1080p so a 7700xt kinda overkill

[idle nexus]

heckin piece of crap this thing is lol

[hoary zodiac]

canadian prices

for some reason 6750xt and 7700xt are around the same price

[idle nexus]

derp

[hoary zodiac]

it's stupid I know

[lone mango]

Yeah I know

a 6600 costs almost as much as a 7600

[idle nexus]

oh wait I got a better one I should upload

[lone mango]

Brutal

[hoary zodiac]

single slot 1070

those were the days

[fresh timber]

i almost bought a 6750xt, great thing i didnt make that mistake

[lone mango]

I did a 7500f 7600 list and went over budget like $50

[fresh timber]

i want for nvenc

[hoary zodiac]

do you live in canada?

[fresh timber]

no,

[hoary zodiac]

the price issue does not affect you

[kindred crescent]

Yeah

[fresh timber]

o lord hes here too

[idle nexus]

wth I didn't even touch LOD

[hoary zodiac]

OH DAMN YOU GOT TWO OF THEM?

these would be great in a rackmount chassis

[idle nexus]

SLI HB bridge?

[fresh timber]

signing my rights away to my mom

[lone mango]

I think its over
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2ztrGJ

[kindred crescent]

Wait… my bad

[hoary zodiac]

was the budget 1300 or 1200

ahhahahaha

[lone mango]

1200

I went over

[hoary zodiac]

awesome

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

yeah canadian market is not optimal

[fresh timber]

MARVEL RIVALS FIXED ITS FPS

[hoary zodiac]

I had to gimp on the cpu so much

to even fit the 7700xt in

[fresh timber]

I went from 80-100fps to 220-140 fps!!

[hoary zodiac]

I had to use AM4

[lone mango]

But the pro with this build is that bro dont gotta touch it at all for many years

[fresh timber]

good thing 7700xt is 16x

[hoary zodiac]

actually

you might be onto something here

hold up

gonna optimise the gpu

[fresh timber]

what

whats wrong with 16x... thats good

[velvet summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812092189638131743/1327407379733549116/IMG_5818.jpg?ex=6782f3f5&is=6781a275&hm=735ce3771cbcfd2d99df5a0bf7d9e271d43d1eb6d8ab2fae1a17bd85b484c654&

[fresh timber]

you wanna run it at 16x in gen 3

[hoary zodiac]

what are you talking about?????

[kindred crescent]

try FS

[fresh timber]

i mentioned the lanes it uses and u said u need to optmise it.. so im confused

[hoary zodiac]

cloud's list

[lone mango]

Perfect condition firm price

[fresh timber]

o

[velvet summit]

New condition, only took out of box

[lone mango]

Idk what to improve but I am pretty close

[hoary zodiac]

yes

[velvet summit]

No lowballers

[lone mango]

This product is open box perfect condition

[velvet summit]

Nah they don't list it as open box
They always just say new

Even though it isn't

[fresh timber]

Used gpus are the best gpus

[lone mango]

Wait I know

[fresh timber]

That 7700xt turned into a 3080

[hoary zodiac]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/93zCwY

[lone mango]

There is a matx montech case that is cheaper

Oh is that it

[hoary zodiac]

I optimised the hell outta it

better ssd

RM650

honestly this is better if he has the intention of upgrading the gpu

better long term

well

do you need that PA120?

meh price savings probably won't get a new gpu

[pure mirage]

thanks

[fresh timber]

Best ssd is used enterprise Samsung one

[hoary zodiac]

hold up

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/93zCwY

here's a second list

it's got a significantly better cpu for a less powerful gpu

if you want to upgrade the system in the future you don't have to spend the money to build an entirely new pc

you can just upgrade the cpu and gpu

[fresh timber]

Peak nvme

[hoary zodiac]

long term savings for less gpu power in the short term

(you also get a more powerful cpu now)

[lone mango]

Why is that teamgroup better

What makes it better

[pure mirage]

do you think it can run a game like marvel rivals at 144fps smooth

[lone mango]

WDs hmb is pretty good

[hoary zodiac]

it's $30 cheaper

MP44 is a mid range ssd

[lone mango]

Oh it is 30% cheaper true

Psu as well

[hoary zodiac]

not sure

[fresh timber]

Yes

[worn wave]

Maybe

[hoary zodiac]

but it is better than what you can get for the price with prebuilts

[fresh timber]

Season. 1 just dropped and performance increased

[worn wave]

Rivals is unoptimized UE5

[fresh timber]

Nope

False

Your info is outdated

It changed at 3am

[pure mirage]

ok thanks so much

[hoary zodiac]

at 1080p it certainly is possible

I don't play AAA so

not sure

[fresh timber]

At 1080p low the 7600 will do 144

[lone mango]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vYcmLc

[hoary zodiac]

hold up gonna look up benchmarks

[fresh timber]

You won’t find any

[pure mirage]

ok

[lone mango]

In this one the case is matx which means it is a little smaller

[fresh timber]

You need season one benchmarks

Not season 0

Give it a few weeks before you get benchmarks

[hoary zodiac]

I don't need to

if it can run decently at season 0

yes

[fresh timber]

I’ll tell you right now it can

My friends 1660 super runs 60 fps in season 0

[nocturne flicker]

Pog, 3 customers all day and the store is closing early

[hoary zodiac]

it can run ~130 at medium 1080p

[fresh timber]

Season 0?

[hoary zodiac]

yes

[fresh timber]

Yeah he’s doing 160+

Now

I got a 40-100fps increase in season 1,

[hoary zodiac]

boring job?

[dusk knot]

What happens

[wise wigeon]

god i genuinely cant pick between splurging on 9800x3d or just getting a non x3d

[fresh timber]

Splurge

[dusk knot]

9800x3d

[fresh timber]

X3d is the goat

[dusk knot]

If you can financially recover that is

[hoary zodiac]

non x3d on 9000 is not worth it imo

[wise wigeon]

eh if i'm building its gonna be for 5 years at least

[random osprey]

youre gonna be like the n64 kid when that 9800x3d comes in the mail

[hoary zodiac]

ryzen 9000 is extremely mediocre

the x3ds are the only cpus worth getting over 7000

[wise wigeon]

i just meant am5 in general

[fresh timber]

The people who buy 9950x over 7950x are funny

[hoary zodiac]

ah I see

[wise wigeon]

zen 5 is yuckers

[hoary zodiac]

well if you're getting a non x3d don't get ryzen 9000

that's my general advice really

[fresh timber]

Isn’t the 9700x. Little faster than 7700x

Like 1-2%

[wise wigeon]

zen 5 is like 5-10% better in general

[hoary zodiac]

all of them except the x3ds are marginal gains

[wise wigeon]

maybe less

not enough to warrant the price hike

[hoary zodiac]

unless the Ryzen 9000 cpu is actually cheaper

under circumstances should you get a ryzen 9000 non x3d

[hoary zodiac]

honestly it's been disappointing this couple months

[wise wigeon]

I do play rather cpu heavy games but at the same time i play a lot of games that will run on a rasberry pi

[hoary zodiac]

lmao

I have a 3070 mobile and I use the igpu 90% of the time

[rancid juniper]

im learning java for the first time this semester, how cooked am i bros?

[fresh timber]

Sounds good enough to me kek

[icy ore]

Gorgeous

[wise wigeon]

oof

[rancid juniper]

💀

[fresh timber]

Nice

[hoary zodiac]

Zen 5, Arrow Lake were all disappointments

looks like RTX 5000 is shaping up to be one too

[fresh timber]

Arrow lake made me money so it’s good in my books

[hoary zodiac]

hope not but

🤷‍♂️

[wise wigeon]

my old roommate in comp sci never had time to himself lol

[rancid juniper]

zen5 wasn't that much of a disappointment, somehow arrowlake dug a massive crater

[hoary zodiac]

to be fair zen 5 had the x3ds

[rancid juniper]

yea

[hoary zodiac]

which were actually pretty good

[fresh timber]

The announcement made my friend $1000 off their stock

Rtx 5000 is a good money maker already

So good generation

[rancid juniper]

ai moment:

[hoary zodiac]

that is irrelevant to what i was saying

[fresh timber]

I know kek, but the profit aspect is good

[hoary zodiac]

ok

[wise wigeon]

before the panel my friend said it jumped like 17% that day

[fresh timber]

Money is everything

[rancid juniper]

and can be the end to everything aswell

[fresh timber]

As long as I have money I’ll be happy even if it’s worthless <333

[hoary zodiac]

bro is a ferengi

[rancid juniper]

lol

[wise wigeon]

he bought like 10 shares before nvidia boomed

[fresh timber]

It’s general chat, poop post central

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-latinum-quark-star-trek-star-trek-quark-latinum-gif-26240769

[fresh timber]

Amazon told me to buy this

I’ll get it in 1-2 months

Crucial p3

[hoary zodiac]

is that the one with controller shenanigans

[wise wigeon]

as a storage drive?

[dusk knot]

Funny how gold is almost worthless to them

[fresh timber]

I got a Amazon notification for that poo drive

[hoary zodiac]

MP44s are better

[wise wigeon]

there a mobo tier list somewhere?

[hoary zodiac]

MSIs are better

[fresh timber]

This is better

[hoary zodiac]

there's an AM4 vram one somewhere

not vram

vrm*

[wise wigeon]

justs am4 huh

[hoary zodiac]

anything is better

[fresh timber]

Yeah that beat mp44l too

[wise wigeon]

?

aint the p3 like gen 3

[fresh timber]

I think so

[hoary zodiac]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[fresh timber]

It has gen 3 speeds atleast

Ima put yall on with more enterprise drives that beat all the consumer drives yall recommend

[hoary zodiac]

no thanks

[fresh timber]

Cause I’m cool

[wise wigeon]

800TB TBW seems kinda small for a 4tb drive

[fresh timber]

Why,

More endurance on them

That’s always welcomed

[rancid juniper]

AM4 VRAM?? didn't know amd was secretly making em

[hoary zodiac]

not unless they're new

[random osprey]

just fg or fg and other stuff?

[wise wigeon]

probably everything

[rancid juniper]

its that x4 FG

[hoary zodiac]

"RTX 4090" performance**

[rancid juniper]

this advertising has to be illegal man

but they are just sitting on the edge

[wise wigeon]

eh

i've seen worse

[hoary zodiac]

NgreedAI only gets away because of their size

[rancid juniper]

this tech gen truly is stagnant

[hoary zodiac]

same with AMD tbh

AMD gets away with a lot of stuff too

[nocturne flicker]

Fuel clerk. It snowed today and it is the southern US, so everybody was in panic mode the past two days and it has been dead today

[rancid juniper]

yea they're no better obv

[hoary zodiac]

especially on the ryzen side

[wise wigeon]

lol

amd marketing was truly something

[fresh timber]

good ssd

[hoary zodiac]

I remember their marketing just being GAMING

game this game that

GAMECACHE

which is just 3d cache

[nocturne flicker]

Gamecache was not 3D cache

[hoary zodiac]

glad they went with x3d instead

[fresh timber]

woudlnt 3dv be good for game dev

[hoary zodiac]

predecessor to 3d cache?

[nocturne flicker]

Gamecache was just extra cache they added to make up for Ryzen's gaming latency issues

[rancid juniper]

when the 5800x3d came out for the first time I was stunned by that sheer power

[gleaming sedge]

Rip to bitwit's house

[fresh timber]

real

rip faze house

[rancid juniper]

like i didn't know them games were that hungry for cache

[nocturne flicker]

3D cache is specifically stacked cache

[wise wigeon]

?

[hoary zodiac]

forgot that guy even existed

[fresh timber]

bitwit house combusted

[rancid juniper]

bitwit mentioned

[fresh timber]

after his wife devorced him i just kinda forgot him

[wise wigeon]

oh california?

[dusk knot]

Only with the advanced one would it beat it

[rancid juniper]

i remember his input on the verge's pc building video

lol

[fresh timber]

who wants to live in california

;kek

[velvet summit]

All the leaves are brown

And the sky's are gray

[hoary zodiac]

That's how they're getting rid of the homeless people

No california = no homeless

[rancid juniper]

wild take

☠️

[fresh timber]

woudlnt the people with no more homes.. be homless

cause they burned down..

[nocturne flicker]

We don't talk about that

[fresh timber]

california burnign down = more homless, more homless problem

[rancid juniper]

big risk to live near a fire prone area tbh

[gleaming sedge]

The tech youtuber, his house burned down

[rancid juniper]

thing can propagate fast under the right conditions bruh

[fresh timber]

live in my state, no more problems

[nocturne flicker]

Just put them into a ghetto sanctuary and forget they exist like in that time travel DS9 episode, surely nothing bad'll happen

[hoary zodiac]

oh god

[fresh timber]

yall are so insensative holy

[hoary zodiac]

OH GOD

[rancid juniper]

bro every state got its own problems
-Tornadoes
-Flooding
-Hurricanes
-Earthquakes
-Landslides
-Sinkholes

lol

[wise wigeon]

-florida man

[fresh timber]

i love tornados

❤️

[hoary zodiac]

-Walter White

[fresh timber]

tornados aint as bad as these fires tho

[nocturne flicker]

The future, predicted by a syndicated '90s scifi show, the joys of media becoming life

[wise wigeon]

tf when florida has all of those but earthquakes

[rancid juniper]

the wind is your enemy XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[hoary zodiac]

You should watch Babylon 5

Plenty of predictions there too

[nocturne flicker]

I bet. It has been on da list

[rancid juniper]

Florida be having landslides???

🤔

[fresh timber]

landslides happpen anywhere with massive weather

[hoary zodiac]

Also could be caused by development

Like building into the sides of mountains

[fresh timber]

thats asking to fall

[hoary zodiac]

Not as much as a US problem as an east asia problem

[rancid juniper]

Washington state

😏

[fresh timber]

a problem they designed them selfs

[wise wigeon]

only reason florida doesnt have earthquakes is because its literally so far off a fault line

[hoary zodiac]

The civil engineering is actually pretty solid

[fresh timber]

-builds buildings on edges
-shocked when they fall

[hoary zodiac]

Probably better than a lot of the US

[rancid juniper]

can't imagine being around the "RING OF FIRE"

[icy ore]

there was an earthquake last year near cape canaveral in fl but dont think it did too much

[wise wigeon]

you mean japan?

[hoary zodiac]

Japan, HK, Some parts of China

[rancid juniper]

lol yea, and few others

[dusk knot]

Not up close

[hoary zodiac]

oh

Different topic

[wise wigeon]

it be like that when you're on three intersecting fault lines

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-day-off-gif-13739959

[hoary zodiac]

I wouldn't want to live in Japan

Like

[fresh timber]

I’m black, they would think I’m rare

[hoary zodiac]

Public transit is a lot better

Interesting culture

[dusk knot]

Work culture sucks

[icy ore]

As far as earthquakes go, man Japan is awful

[hoary zodiac]

But earthquakes and actually trying to work there is a nightmare

[fresh timber]

I like a thing called rights

[rancid juniper]

Geographically speaking Japan may be one of the worst places to live imo

[hoary zodiac]

They don't care

[fresh timber]

That’s why I don’t live their

[dusk knot]

I'm glad I was born in the US

[rancid juniper]

Tsunamis, Earthquakes, and Typhoons

[wise wigeon]

somehow has more mandatory vacation time

[fresh timber]

May be racist, but I have rights ish

[wise wigeon]

but work culture is against actually using it

[hoary zodiac]

Hong Kong in the 80s was a pretty good place to live in

[dusk knot]

Yeah......

[wise wigeon]

rights...sure

[fresh timber]

I mean I have enough

[dusk knot]

No country is good on this planet. There's ups and downs no matter where you go

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe early 2000s to early 2010s

Geographically it's in the middle of the plate

[rancid juniper]

na greenland solos

[wise wigeon]

no country is perfect yeah

[fresh timber]

Seeing I’m black I have a lot of experience with my rights

[hoary zodiac]

So generally it's safe from weather shenanigans

[dusk knot]

Too cold, no green as the name says. Smh

[rancid juniper]

just wear jacket all gud

[hoary zodiac]

Real estate is a scam tho

[wise wigeon]

US has its upsides

[hoary zodiac]

Do not buy real estate in Hong Kong

You get a supply closet they call an apartment

[wise wigeon]

if tarriffs screw electronics up there goes one upside

[dusk knot]

If I where born in Japan, it would be the country side

[hoary zodiac]

For a million dollars

[fresh timber]

thats why ima buy what ever nvidia gpu i can before that happens

[wise wigeon]

i wouldn't blindly buy whatever

[hoary zodiac]

There's still good rail connections parts of the countryside right?

[rancid juniper]

RTX 5090 after tariffs:

[hoary zodiac]

Japan has really good infrastructure iirc

[dusk knot]

It's alright

[wise wigeon]

better than the US

but thats not a high bar

[rancid juniper]

U.S don't want the trains

[dusk knot]

Imagine needing trains

[fresh timber]

i hate trains

[hoary zodiac]

Builds another 10 highway lanes

But no railway

[fresh timber]

they annoying to stop for

[dusk knot]

When you can just get a car lol

[wise wigeon]

i'd love walkable cities

[fresh timber]

fr

[hoary zodiac]

You're in the US that's why

[rancid juniper]

Just... One... More... LANE

💀

[fresh timber]

driving fun

[hoary zodiac]

I can't believe I'm doing this but

China

[fresh timber]

drive a nice car once and u enjoy it

[nocturne flicker]

We have a lot of trains. 90% of it is cargo only

[fresh timber]

no, too racist

[hoary zodiac]

The high speed rail is pretty good

[dusk knot]

I'm glad I wasn't born in Asia.

[hoary zodiac]

You should absolutely be

[fresh timber]

i seen videos of them wiping a black guys skin and wondering why it didnt come off...

[wise wigeon]

hahaha

[hoary zodiac]

East Asia is one of the worst places to grow up in

[hoary zodiac]

Ok that is sensational crap

[dusk knot]

Mmmm... change of topic please

[hoary zodiac]

That is not representative of china

[fresh timber]

bruh

we gotta talk about the truth of china 😦

[hoary zodiac]

It's not the truth

[fresh timber]

if u say so

[nocturne flicker]

There is only one China. The ROC

[fresh timber]

china bad, ban tiktok

[hoary zodiac]

I'm Chinese so I'm very qualified

[rancid juniper]

+2500 social credits

[dusk knot]

You are?

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[hoary zodiac]

Born in HK (unfortunately)

[dusk knot]

I wouldn't have known

[fresh timber]

i wanna go to south afcria

[hoary zodiac]

I'm in Australia now

[dusk knot]

Cool

[misty sparrow]

maybe they worked with these guys

[rancid juniper]

hong kong island good?

[fresh timber]

im sorry for you

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah I've disconnected myself from their culture since age 12

[wise wigeon]

better that then west taiwan though

[hoary zodiac]

Nah

[rancid juniper]

oof

[hoary zodiac]

To live in? Absolutely not

Real estate is overpriced as hell everywhere

[dusk knot]

Understandable. YouTube has told me enough how it is.

[wise wigeon]

not really a unique thing

[rancid juniper]

South korea

[hoary zodiac]

It's more the educational system

[dusk knot]

No good either

[hoary zodiac]

East Asian education is hell to it's youth

[rancid juniper]

People live, breathe, eat samsung

😔

[wise wigeon]

having a single exam determine your life is crazy

[fresh timber]

i heard you get treated diffrently for just having a diffrent color hair

[hoary zodiac]

Nothing came close to the education in terms of factors that pushed me to leave

[fresh timber]

for real,

[onyx merlin]

Ello

What you all talking about ?

[misty sparrow]

i wonder how koreans would react to american tests

[rancid juniper]

countries n stuff

[wise wigeon]

east asian education

[hoary zodiac]

East Asian dystopia

[fresh timber]

somethimes im greatful for the racist ahh american education system

[misty sparrow]

would they be like "pff, this is easy"

[hoary zodiac]

Pfffff

[rancid juniper]

EZ mode 4.0

[wise wigeon]

ok buddy

[hoary zodiac]

Ok to be fair

[fresh timber]

im a vegietarian but im alergic to plants so i have to eat meat

[hoary zodiac]

America is not that racist

[dusk knot]

Ok.......

[misty sparrow]

ACT/SAT is probably easy to them

instant highest score

[rancid juniper]

☠️

[fresh timber]

cake walk

[hoary zodiac]

If anything the US is one of the more tolerant countries

[fresh timber]

sighs

[wise wigeon]

literally had a dude who never studied in my class get a 1500 first try

[rancid juniper]

EZ way to get into ivy league

[fresh timber]

i got a 400

i slept through it

[wise wigeon]

you just put you name on?

[fresh timber]

yup

[misty sparrow]

honestly i feel this guy

you can answer random questions and get a high score

[onyx merlin]

@fresh timber I mean that does not sound bad you could have it far worse.. plus America healthcare is hidious.

[misty sparrow]

i took the ACT and scored 30 composite and forgot to study

highest score is 36 fyi

[wise wigeon]

well no dude also got a C in AP world history all year but teacher had a clause that if you got a 5 on AP test she would retroactively change your grade

[hoary zodiac]

Aussie education is somewhat better...

[wise wigeon]

guess what

[hoary zodiac]

Depends on the school ofc

[nocturne flicker]

I'm old enough that I don't remember my scores :PepeRealizes:

[fresh timber]

its so bad

but im happy enough ehre

[wise wigeon]

im in grad school and dying inside

[rancid juniper]

when your lawyer in 2040 looking at a video on how to do a case step by step

[hoary zodiac]

I used to barely passing-failing in HK and the FIRST semester I moved to Australia I went up to B standard

DO NOT raise your child in east asia

[misty sparrow]

i remember hearing a story about a US tourist going to australia and breaking his leg, they had to fly him to the hospital in a helicopter

The total cost for his bill was roughly $75 i think

[hoary zodiac]

The schooling will give them depression

[hoary zodiac]

Only?

Based

[misty sparrow]

I might be confusing his story with another person's story about Japan

[rancid juniper]

in america it will be 7500

[wise wigeon]

US healthcare is hell

[misty sparrow]

but they were both cheap

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it is publically funded so

[wise wigeon]

people are always like "oh but its so fast compared to the rest of the world"

[nocturne flicker]

My visit to an ER by itself is $100 after my deductible

[hoary zodiac]

Australian healthcare does have a lot of issues

[fresh timber]

it cost me nothing

[hoary zodiac]

Like a healthcare worker shortage

[onyx merlin]

@fresh timber silly bot... But Ya Healthcare just expensive I got Type 1 Diabetes so need Insulin to stay alive and its a huge cost as not cheap here in America.. plus I use CGMS aka glucose monitors to mointor my blood sugar levels

[fresh timber]

i dont pay for my healthcare

[hoary zodiac]

But it's still something

[nocturne flicker]

We also have a healthcare worker shortage

[wise wigeon]

but i had family that had to wait 6 months just to see an endocrinologist

[fresh timber]

government, just tolerate sugar bro

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe we've been poaching them

[fresh timber]

pay them more

[hoary zodiac]

WA's been poaching doctors from the UK

[wise wigeon]

i mean you know how many nurses the US imports

[nocturne flicker]

No, our AMA and colleges keep the programs small so that it keeps wages higher

[onyx merlin]

Goverment dosent matter the party both seem to hate those with health issues and for sure dont give a dam about us diabetics.... neither party has done anything really to make Insulin and the supplies we need affordable.

[fresh timber]

i heard emts say the ride is fere and such, to convice people to get in for their saftey

[nocturne flicker]

Also college is expensive to begin with

[dusk knot]

Unless you have financial aid

[hoary zodiac]

Especially for international students

[fresh timber]

its free for me

debt? whats that?

[wise wigeon]

i mean there was the 35 dollar cap but thats for medicare

[nocturne flicker]

International students and out of state students is where they make their bank

[hoary zodiac]

It costs probably a similar price to study in the US and Australia

[dusk knot]

No student loans . Thank god

[hoary zodiac]

Chose Australia anyways

[onyx merlin]

Both Democrats and republicans sit on butts and dont do much for anyone with health issues other then super old people who are retired and going to be dead within 10-15 years most of time @wise wigeon only for those who are old and retired

[rancid juniper]

this

[fresh timber]

the state is paying for me

[nocturne flicker]

If you come from a different state tuition is like, 2-4x more expensive

[rancid juniper]

i promise myself to never deal with student loans

[hoary zodiac]

Too political?

[rancid juniper]

i should go hunting for scholarships n such

[hoary zodiac]

kinda skirting the lines

[dusk knot]

My parents are still paying it 30+ years later...smh

[wise wigeon]

the US has a very "I got mine" attitude

[rancid juniper]

rip

[dusk knot]

It's almost done

[onyx merlin]

@hoary zodiac sorry just frustrated with prices on medicine its unfair for those who need it to stay alive so I dont consider it that poltical..

[hoary zodiac]

Mods don't like it when you get too political

[nocturne flicker]

I have 10k in debt and I didn't even get a degree

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/ricolino-scolari-gif-25352670

[hoary zodiac]

If you stay on the "cost of living" side of the convo it's fine

[wise wigeon]

i'm in school rn

[dusk knot]

Woagh now

[wise wigeon]

and i drive an hour one way

[hoary zodiac]

yikes

[onyx merlin]

Fine medicne is a hot topic just prey boeing you never get a disease that requires medicne to stay alive and then have hard time affording it due to costs.

[fresh timber]

cost of living is too hgih

[wise wigeon]

loans blow

[nocturne flicker]

I am broke enough so I don't pay anything on it. For now

[dusk knot]

That's enough right there

[fresh timber]

$15 a hour minumal wage and u still cant survive out here

[wise wigeon]

and i was able to get through undergrad debt free

[onyx merlin]

ok JP

[hoary zodiac]

Not my rules

[dusk knot]

(:

[fresh timber]

ima make fun of my friends under 18

u cant make $15 a hour looser

[nocturne flicker]

Lucky you, our minimum wage is federal

[dusk knot]

just live with your parents, let them worry about it lol

[fresh timber]

i do

[hoary zodiac]

That's what he does

[wise wigeon]

7.25?

[nocturne flicker]

Yus

[fresh timber]

i was looking into moving out, nope too expensive ill stay home

[onyx merlin]

Not sure what is wrong with living with family if your helping out and paying rent

[nocturne flicker]

Tennessee doesn't have a minimum wage law so it defaults to the federal standards

[onyx merlin]

everything is expensive as heck these days

[wise wigeon]

its funny that wage was 2009 too

[dusk knot]

That's what I'm doing.

[fresh timber]

ill have like $200 to my name after every bill and such, still wont cover health insurance and car insruance and a bunch of other crap

[onyx merlin]

Just seems like some people or alot like to mock those who still live at home

[wise wigeon]

7.25 in 09 is still only a lil over 10 today

[onyx merlin]

despite fact its common in ASIA and other parts of world

[dusk knot]

Western culture has made the idea of living with parents like it's a terrible thing.

[hoary zodiac]

Mostly older people who's already had a home for dirt cheap back in the 60s

[wise wigeon]

different culture

[hoary zodiac]

Nowadays people won't shame you

Not in this economy

[rancid juniper]

also TIPS

smh

[wise wigeon]

its mostly boomers that bully you

[nocturne flicker]

...Tips are terrible tho?

[dusk knot]

Tips?

[fresh timber]

houses cost to much

[wise wigeon]

shoulda bought a house at - 20 yo

[rancid juniper]

yea

[dusk knot]

I don't get tips 😔

[onyx merlin]

I mean I live at home but pay rent and help out around house... Cant even afford my own place especially now. but ya

everyone should buy a house before they are even born only way to afford it XD

[fresh timber]

my moms buying a house after i graudate probably, i prey i can run ethernet to my room or i will crash out using wifi

[hoary zodiac]

The world economy took a nose dive in the 2008 and now it keeps going down

I don't know how I'm even going to afford living here

[onyx merlin]

wont conditions economy and other things for those being born now techincally be far worse then for those alive now ?

[spark halo]

Correct

[wise wigeon]

yes

[fresh timber]

these new infants are in a world of trouble

[wise wigeon]

old people screwd up the world and we have to deal with the consequences

[hoary zodiac]

Inflation isn't going down

[nocturne flicker]

The economy in the US wasn't 'good' pre-2008 either. 2008 just swept away a lot of the crutches the economy used to prop itself up

[fresh timber]

it would be not good if it did go down

[hoary zodiac]

Depends

It needs to come down but not too much

[fresh timber]

USD, a consistant downward spiral thats almost unnatural

bad

[dusk knot]

My family lost our house then. My educational opportunities would have been better if it never happened.

[spark halo]

Today i won the war against squatters in my home.

[hoary zodiac]

jesus...

[spark halo]

They will be gone in 3 months

[fresh timber]

..

where do u live now

[wise wigeon]

i mean you can do things to increase the buying power of your currency but not every country can implement that

[fresh timber]

squat on the squaters

[lone mango]

Interesting

[hoary zodiac]

How does that even happen

[spark halo]

Took 8 years to convince my landlord

[fresh timber]

squatters rights

[spark halo]

A bad situation.

[wise wigeon]

the fanless noctua?

[fresh timber]

its a stupid law that needs to be changed

[hoary zodiac]

It's trespassing no?

[fresh timber]

nope

squatters right

[dusk knot]

Ooh! I like that!

[hoary zodiac]

trespassing laws should override squatters laws by default

[onyx merlin]

@spark halo so squatters were camping in your rented house/apartment and took forever to get landlord to get rid of squatters for place you paid rent for ?

[lone mango]

Idkk forgot

[wise wigeon]

squatters rights is crazy

[hoary zodiac]

Doesn't matter if they've lived there

They're trespassing

[fresh timber]

nope

[hoary zodiac]

What????

[fresh timber]

not how it works sir

read up

[spark halo]

Its abit more complicated.

[hoary zodiac]

That's stupid

[wise wigeon]

lol

[fresh timber]

we know

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

Glad I'm not in the US

[fresh timber]

they can legally tresspass on ur property and through some bull ahh laws claim they live their and now you have to legally evict them

[hoary zodiac]

I don't want some random guy just stealing the house I bought with blood and sweat

[wise wigeon]

i mean it even affected gordon ramsay

[dusk knot]

Get me out of here.

[fresh timber]

fun fact, you can put locks on the doors if they leave but u cant force them out

[spark halo]

They usually have to get mail at the address

[fresh timber]

its like 30days of being vacant in some states

and mai

its diffrent in diffrent states

[lone mango]

Would rather stay here than in canada or aus

[fresh timber]

tldr, people can steal your house, but you can change the locks in some if they leave

[hoary zodiac]

30 days?

[dusk knot]

No where is safe then.

[hoary zodiac]

That's stupid

[fresh timber]

one state

yeah

[hoary zodiac]

Not even a year

[wise wigeon]

yup

[fresh timber]

mhm

just wait for them to leave then change the locks

[hoary zodiac]

That is an actual injustice

[wise wigeon]

lol

[fresh timber]

u can also hire somebody to squat on the squatters

force the wquatters out

[lone mango]

I think it came from the 1800s relating to farmers

[hoary zodiac]

I saw a youtube video of a streamer just trolling a squatter

[fresh timber]

asian andy?

[hoary zodiac]

And the squatter had the audacity to call the cops

[fresh timber]

that situation is diffrent

she has a lease

[hoary zodiac]

Think so

[sinful blade]

Anyone in the hws discord?

[hoary zodiac]

Did she?

[fresh timber]

yeah

[hoary zodiac]

I don't think she did

[fresh timber]

they cant just change the locks on her

she rented the property

or that room

[hoary zodiac]

Oh yeah

[fresh timber]

thats diffrent

[hoary zodiac]

She rented and refused to leave

[fresh timber]

she just refused to leave

and legally they have to evict her

[hoary zodiac]

But still though shouldn't they have the power to evict her?

[fresh timber]

they did

she used loopholes and such

extended it

[hoary zodiac]

after all the cop dramas

[fresh timber]

yeah i think that made it worst

[hoary zodiac]

It's still stupid how she was there for so long

[fresh timber]

"shes harrasing my other tenants"

it was so funny how the cops told her, what hes doing is civil and legal

bro abused the noise laws and blasted music at odd hours of the night and the cops couldnt do anything

[hoary zodiac]

Taste of her own medicine tbh

[fresh timber]

they lcoked the doors because she had her own "private" entrance so they didnt restrcit how she gets into her room, just made it incovient to get in

they got her arrested for throwing bleech

they would mop water into her room when cleaning it up "multiply times"

they would just mop water into her room for fun

[hoary zodiac]

She's also a repeat offender so

I have no sympathies

[fresh timber]

yup

shes doen it before

sooooo

shes a known squatter

in the backyard she throw out like 100+ airbnb gift cards she knows what shes doing

[hoary zodiac]

At least if she was desperate and was a decent human being I'd be sympathetic

But no

[wise wigeon]

man i know i dont need a balls to the walls mobo but some are just nice features

[nocturne flicker]

Uh no, it is generally if someone squats, they have somewhere between 3-60 days after being notified of eviction before they are able to be evicted through force with 30 days being the general standard. Holdover tennants are either immediately or up to 14 days depending on the state

[fresh timber]

if she just left when she was suppose to..

[fresh timber]

OO

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah it's an issue

[fresh timber]

so if u dont know about it and dont evict them.. good luck

**why do these laws even exist anyways&

[hoary zodiac]

Debug LEDs cost a few hundred dollars more for some stupid reason

[fresh timber]

like dont go onto others property

[wise wigeon]

like ime sure that 650 9800x3d bundle is fine

[fresh timber]

it should be the state who can deem a property abondoned

[wise wigeon]

but man

[hoary zodiac]

Wait

650???

[fresh timber]

where

where

[hoary zodiac]

9800X3D at msrp now?

[fresh timber]

i will buy that

[wise wigeon]

idk if i trust a lower end giabyte line

[fresh timber]

it been at msrp.. microcenter

[hoary zodiac]

Link

[wise wigeon]

its in deals

[fresh timber]

:0

[wise wigeon]

gaming x870 wifi 6

[wise wigeon]

must be nice

[fresh timber]

i need to resist

[nocturne flicker]

Long held common law dating back to medieval Europe that saw unused land as bad

[hoary zodiac]

Higher end gigabyte is generally solid

By higher end I mean Bx50 or above

[wise wigeon]

gaming and gaming x aint high end

[hoary zodiac]

Not B450 tho

Well to be fair in terms of features

[wise wigeon]

fair

[hoary zodiac]

A lot of higher end boards are just cheap plastic

I'd check the vrms tho

If there's a reference for that

[wise wigeon]

there is abundle for 100 more that comes with a mp44l and its a rourus elite though

[hoary zodiac]

1TB?

[dusk knot]

Wow...not bad!

[wise wigeon]

so mp44l offsets it by like 50ish bucks and can be used as a game drive

[dusk knot]

I need an upgrade

[hoary zodiac]

Bit meh tbh

[fresh timber]

i want a upgrade

[hoary zodiac]

A lot of the higher end boards are just RGB and plastic

[wise wigeon]

it'd be adequete for a game drive

[misty sparrow]

I also want a GF an upgrade

[hoary zodiac]

I mean the bundle as a whole

[fresh timber]

i need to upgrade the remote pc my girlfriend uses

the cpu struggles

[hoary zodiac]

If the vrms are better than it's probably a better deal

But again

[dusk knot]

You need to work for it

[misty sparrow]

I still have 16GB of ram

[hoary zodiac]

$50 more

Excluding the mp44

[wise wigeon]

its and E so it has probably useless to me extras

[hoary zodiac]

Download more

[wise wigeon]

more ssd heatsink, better vrms, and a pcie button

[velvet summit]

let me break it down

[fresh timber]

diffrence between mp44l and mp44

[dusk knot]

I might actually buy this....mmm

[fresh timber]

if the 7600x3d bundle was stil lhere id lowkey might buy it

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-cage-johnny-cage-dance-johnny-cage-dancing-johnny-cage-dancing-mk1-johnny-cage-mk1-gif-2432922991248398671

[fresh timber]

just.. 6 cores ew

[hoary zodiac]

Controller

[fresh timber]

yall should really be asking if people have microcenters near bye

[misty sparrow]

the closest one near me is several hours away so

[hoary zodiac]

7500F is $130 on AliExpress

[leaden pewter]

I'm glad they built one in Miami tbh

[misty sparrow]

i have to put up with Best Buy

[fresh timber]

ali, microcenter, amazon/egg, my order

[leaden pewter]

And you can also snag a 7700 for $185-200 on aliexpress

[fresh timber]

such value