general-chat

[craggy shoal]

I like my RGB idc. But I have a balanced opinion. If I'm paying extra for RGB when there's an option that doesn't include RGB, I'll take the no RGB option

I'm not paying extra for RGB

[sage sluice]

Tbf who has anything above a 7700xt for 1080p

[mortal grail]

And this is why I occasionally give you compliments

[devout forum]

Esports player lol

[mortal grail]

Lol

[sage sluice]

That is so true 😭

[mortal grail]

Idk why it was instead of "I try to be friends" it became "I'm occasionally saying nice things smh"

[sage sluice]

Even then esports titles will have no trouble with a 7600/x

[mortal grail]

I've run into an interesting problem guys

My dan a3 is recirculating too much

[mortal grail]

So muh gpu getting 10C hotter than normal

[sage sluice]

Me when i run into my wall

[mortal grail]

Sledgehammers remove interesting walls

[sage sluice]

D:

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/persona-1-gif-4277629815620177709

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/marco-marreta-gif-26017519

[craggy shoal]

I like sledgehammers

[sage sluice]

I have one

Theyre great

[rancid juniper]

what you're gonna do with it?

[craggy shoal]

I want one now

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/siege-gif-11002667

[sage sluice]

🤫

[craggy shoal]

Don't worry about it

[sage sluice]

Same reason i have a machete

[craggy shoal]

I want a baseball bat too. I'd probably put a sock on it for just in case ya know?

[sage sluice]

I dont have my bat anymore

[devout forum]

Honestly if you have an OP GPU and a dank screen
You can get away with a much less powerful CPU methinks

[rancid juniper]

that doesn't work

[mortal grail]

Silly child that's not how you spell macchiato

[devout forum]

Like
Would a 7600X+4080S build be dumb got a 4k screen?

[mortal grail]

My pinned comment for gen chat sums up my thoughts on this really well

[devout forum]

This one?

[mortal grail]

Yeaup

[sage sluice]

Im still waiting to find a use for this thing

[craggy shoal]

yo that looks sick

[devout forum]

Wheat harvesting

[sage sluice]

Sickle*

[devout forum]

Like unironically

[mortal grail]

Reforge it 30x and make 30 youtube shorts

Become youtuber

[devout forum]

Rofl

But yes

I feel significantly less stupid wanting to do GPU and monitor before CPU now

Thank you Felix you made my day

[sage sluice]

I used to have a butterfly knife too but it broke

[mortal grail]

That's why I'm hete

Here

[sage sluice]

200 dollar piece of garbo

[mortal grail]

Hete

[devout forum]

Though I do wonder
Is it stupid to buy a baller monitor even of you can't drive it really?

[mortal grail]

My name hete now

[sage sluice]

Hete

[devout forum]

Like a 4k QD-OLED paired with a 6700XT

It feels dumb, but on the other hand...

[mortal grail]

I don't disagree with this concept as long as you have clear short term intentions to make full use of it

Like buying everything but the gpu for example

[devout forum]

Okay for single-player stuff

I don't think it's that stupid

[sage sluice]

Not as stupid as people who future-proof their cpu and buy vega 7 graphics

[mortal grail]

You could do like damascus effects on the knife and get all the csgo bois excited

[devout forum]

Besides that QD-OLED if you don't run it in braindead mode and take care of it could feasibly last several GPU upgrades

[sage sluice]

If i spoiled and tagged "blood" could i send a pic of what happens when you arent careful with your butterfly knife

[mortal grail]

If you don't mind a monitor needing two cables yes

[devout forum]

Like if you take care of it and don't try to intentionally kill it MUB style it SHOULD have a lifespan that's gonna make it sensible?

[devout forum]

Isn't the 6700XT HDMI 2.0?

You'd need DSC anyway

[mortal grail]

Hdmi 2.1

And not enough bandwidth so they use 2

[devout forum]

Wat

[mortal grail]

Yep it's a thing now

[devout forum]

I thought it's just DSC

[mortal grail]

Was

Now dual input

[devout forum]

Dumbalou

[sage sluice]

:(

[mortal grail]

Ok we are definitely deleting this

Sad but also not ok

[devout forum]

Yeah that's quite over the line

[sage sluice]

😭

[devout forum]

Anyhow

[sage sluice]

I was laughing when it happened ngl

I was talking with a coworker absentmindedly

[mortal grail]

I think you need a separate doctor if you're laughing after that

Lmfao

[sage sluice]

Thats the only time ive cut myself with one flipping them for years

[mortal grail]

You were flipping knives at work??

[sage sluice]

Nah ive had worse injuries lol

[mortal grail]

[sage sluice]

I worked at a knife store

[mortal grail]

Oh

Oh yeah

[sage sluice]

[mortal grail]

Right

[sage sluice]

Ive had worse injuries too

[devout forum]

Based

[mortal grail]

Fair enough the one time it makes a little sense

[sage sluice]

A katana sliced my arm one time

That really sucked

[devout forum]

Yikers

Sharp blades be like that

[mortal grail]

Were you fighting a warlord wtf

[sage sluice]

Dont try to catch sharp objects that slip out of your hands guys

[devout forum]

Though ironically dull blades are MUCH more dangerous than sharp ones

[sage sluice]

It wasnt dull

But you are right

[devout forum]

With sharpness you have control

If you get cut, you get cut because you did something stupid

[sage sluice]

Dull blades lead to a rough cut that bleeds VERY well

Clean cuts you can hold together easier not to bleed out

[devout forum]

And they are a pain in the bum for medics to go fix

Ask me how I know

[mortal grail]

Dull blades also don't cut as deep but you want a tetanus shot

Or usually do

[devout forum]

Most cuts made by a sharp blade don't mandate a shot

[sage sluice]

Eh only if its a blade thats been exposed to rust is a tet shot really needed

[devout forum]

Because they can be cleaned out properly

[sage sluice]

Or even just oxydized at all

[mortal grail]

Yes which are also usually dull

Ye

[devout forum]

A dull blade that more rips than cuts the tissue is likely to be almost impossible to properly clean out and mandate a shot

[sage sluice]

A dull blade also hurts WAY more

Ask me how i know

[mortal grail]

Clean can also cut deeper tho

[devout forum]

Cuz it rips instead of slicing

[sage sluice]

That is true

[mortal grail]

Just for context I'm not unknown to knives either

[sage sluice]

Either way, dont play with swords and stabby things

[mortal grail]

Lol

[devout forum]

I've seen cuts that were very deep and made by dull blades

[sage sluice]

Unlike me who flips them

[mortal grail]

Yes definitely don't play with knives

[devout forum]

We were like "Bruh how TF did you get that with a DULL BLADE"

[mortal grail]

If you're strong enough sure

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-and-tear-doom-doomguy-isabelle-isabelle-animal-crossing-gif-26156184

[tranquil pebble]

Discord in a nutshell: something always fails to load, or does so slowly. Usually GIF section but in this case userlist.

[devout forum]

Don't "play" with knives
Doing tricks can be fun, but always respect and expect the blade

[sage sluice]

^

Remember most people who do tricks with knives have COUNTLESS hours of practice

[tranquil pebble]

yep, not worth the grievious injuries that can result

[mortal grail]

Playing with eagles are more fun

[devout forum]

I want to buy a trainer balisong now, crap

I could
I will have the income

[sage sluice]

Or tiny rainbow coloured feather bombs

[tranquil pebble]

and they almost certainly used practice knives designed to you know not hurt/possibly kill them

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-birds-crash-angry-birds-gameplay-gif-13762027302832669149

[devout forum]

Realistically I was told by someone who's a good knife flipper to
-Always respect the blade
-Be sure of your surroundings when doing tricks
-Be ready to be cut if you mess up
-Know how to handle messing up

[sage sluice]

Id stick away from bear and sons, they have issues with screw quality and they fall out. Kershaw are a bit weird imo, id recommend squid if any

[mortal grail]

I like squid

[devout forum]

I meant one that's painted like a CSGO knife

[mortal grail]

I have it with sushi all the time

[sage sluice]

Me when id flip my tanto that i spent hours sharpening with 3000 grit sand paper

[devout forum]

Full blads
But it's dull

So like
It's TECHNICALLY not a knife

It's a "collectible item made of metal and wood"

[mental yoke]

What's the best performing laptop under $500? Not for gaming - but still decently powerful

[rancid juniper]

least intensive RDR2 experience (that vram usage tho)

[mortal grail]

A used gaming laptop

[mortal grail]

Yes the best performance per dollar is literally that

[sage sluice]

Im not crazy over it, calamaris texture is so funky

[tranquil pebble]

tanto style knives do exist though

[mortal grail]

You know what I know exactly what you mean but I experience it with cooked mushroom instead

[tranquil pebble]

and I want one ngl

[tranquil pebble]

its best fried, IMO

[devout forum]

I like balisongs because of the cool tricks

[sage sluice]

Which tanto? Japanese trad or modern 2 flat blades

[tranquil pebble]

Japanese

[devout forum]

It's a hobby that I can do in the ambulance lol

Hell if I ever feel confident enough I might even sharpen it

[sage sluice]

This is my favourite knife that unfortunately is no longer in my possession

That thing is about 500 usd

Which is why i sold it lol

[sage sluice]

You dont want to do that

Would mess up the temper

Itd just be brittle

Assuming youre talking about a trainer

A lot of trainers use membrane style blades too

[devout forum]

It's TECHNICALLY a "Not-knife"™️

[sage sluice]

" "

[devout forum]

But it's solid metal and it's got the profile

[sage sluice]

Most knifes use folding processes and heat treating to actually get proper strength and usability

[mortal grail]

It's so 'grammable

[sage sluice]

There are grades of steel, some better than others for specific use cases (H2 steel for underwater use, magnacut for good general use, some rex steels are great for insane sharpness but brittle edges)

But what really matters is how the knife is actually prepared

[proud jackal]

[sage sluice]

In the end tho, a solid piece of metal doesnt make a great knife

[devout forum]

It's more to make the feel of tricks authentic

[sage sluice]

Lol i guess

[devout forum]

But like
I can get a sharp Böker Magnum balisong for cheaper than the CSGO inspired dull one

[sage sluice]

If it floats your boat, its yours to have fun with

[devout forum]

Use the dull for tricks, pocket the real deal for other stuff

[sage sluice]

I love böker, i enjoyed working with them when i could lol

Good quality knives, cant really speak on their balisongs tho

[devout forum]

But I 100% want a dull one for doing funky business

I don't want to have to constantly explain to mom why I'm using up our bandages every time I practice flipping

[sage sluice]

Id just grab a trainer then, theyre more geared towards blunt trauma and messing with them than regular balisongs

Also there are easy ways to never get cut with a balisong that you dont realize are as easy as they are

Karambits are much more terrifying to me than a balisong

https://tenor.com/view/knife-game-cool-epic-high-quality-gif-18089711

[devout forum]

Karambit tricks are insane

[sage sluice]

These lil suckers

[devout forum]

Y'know what's even more scary
A single-action FOLDING karambit

[sage sluice]

I dont fear a man with a balisong, i fear the guy flipping a karambit confidently

[devout forum]

It's just BEGGING you to mess up a closing and cut your finger off

[sage sluice]

Eh, those arent too bad

Theyre the same as a reg one for the most part, just kinda come out like a folding chair lmao

[devout forum]

But single-action
If you press the button when you hold it the wrong way, goodbye fingers

[devout forum]

Tbf
A balisong can still absolutely mess you up

[sage sluice]

Ive not actually seen a button activated karambit lol

[devout forum]

I have

It was not fun for the person messing up

[sage sluice]

Only liner locks and some side and back assists

[sage sluice]

😭

I had one friend who could flip them, i genuinely flinched any time hed flip it near me

[devout forum]

They got away with it because it snapped onto the top of a single finger and the bone stopped the blade

But it was NASTY

[sage sluice]

[devout forum]

They most definitely learned to respect it afterwards

He got 2 stitches and went home at the end

I think it was 2
Might've been 3 or 4 tbf

[sage sluice]

This is the only knife i flip nowadays lol, i made it myself

[devout forum]

Based

[sage sluice]

The funny thing is im not that much of a knife person

I just like flipping things and fidgeting

✨

All my knowledge is from just wanting a paycheck

[devout forum]

Heh

[tranquil pebble]

every time I look for blades online, everything I want is sold out

[devout forum]

My interest in medical stuff came from always having to bandage my stepdad while he was working in his little shop

Just constantly getting cuts, bruises and poke wounds

[sage sluice]

Id recommend bladehq and SMknifeworks

There's some good smaller shops too for niche blades

[devout forum]

I eventually just fell in love with the medical world
Also messed up jokes

[sage sluice]

That's honestly cute

[devout forum]

Alright fine it was mainly the really messed up jokes

[sage sluice]

I'm still figuring out what i want to do myself tbh

I turn 18 on the 8th 😭

[devout forum]

Was about to ask lol

I'm 27 and I hate humanity already
Don't go medical

[sage sluice]

Ive seen too much of what that field does to people to be interested

[devout forum]

Anyhow
I decided this is going to be my decade
I will build myself an SFF rig and upgrade pretty much everything in my setup

[sage sluice]

Sff?

[devout forum]

I'm probably gonna put aside like 200 bucks every month

[devout forum]

Ncore 100 Max

It's that aluminum obelisk from CM

[sage sluice]

Ah gotcha

Sounds fun

I need a fancy case myself tbh

I wanna try that one thing i saw a while back with like a clear textured sticker across a glass side panel

[devout forum]

It's pretty fancy

That bronze looks so good

Though grey might be a safer bet

The bronze really is a statement piece

[sage sluice]

Bronze sounds fun

I like stuff that sticks out a bit

[devout forum]

I'm not sure it'd go well with a very Ultramarines blue wall color tbf

[sage sluice]

I was thinking of this or something like it on my side panel

[devout forum]

Does blue go well with bronze?

[sage sluice]

Actually ive seen copper and blue go really well together, bronze is pretty friggen similar

Would say itd depend on what else you have

[devout forum]

Furniture is white + Spanish oak

[sinful blade]

Took me till I was 25 to figure out I wanted to go into IT

[sage sluice]

Up to you, could be a good contrast

[devout forum]

The wood color is like

[sage sluice]

How are you liking it?

[devout forum]

Honestly kinda a vibe with the blue

It'd fit

[sage sluice]

I can imagine it positions are weird to find

[devout forum]

Unironically the grey might stand out more than the bronze kek

In my given environment

[sage sluice]

You should go for it then

[devout forum]

Tbf my current case is black and that's alright

[sage sluice]

Maybe introduce some more bronze to your room too

[devout forum]

Shelves?

Like fixtures for white shelves can be bronze colored

[sage sluice]

Think of a Noctua fan, in a black setup they look rough, but noctuafy the rest of the build and it works beautifully

[devout forum]

That'd be a pretty nice contrast on the blue wall methinks

[sage sluice]

That could work

Maybe some bronze book coverings on a spanish oak shelf?

[devout forum]

By that logic the bronze would be more sensible because the oak color on the doors of my cabinet are pretty dark

[sage sluice]

Or a bronze picture frame

[devout forum]

It's weird to explain

But like I think it'd work already

[sage sluice]

If you think so thats your call lol

[devout forum]

I can give images tomorrow when I have sunlight to explain

But I think it'd work well

With the bronze

If I wanted it to REALLY stand out I'd probably grind off all the color and mirror shine the aluminum outer panels

Like polish it as much as possible

[pliant berry]

this is just ridiculous, why are earth would you want yourself to navigate through 52,000 folders?

no wonder this stupid folder is taking so long to move

[sinful blade]

Going to start next week

[fresh timber]

Returning legion to 🤪 now to find out what els I wanna waste cash on

[tranquil pebble]

What is in it lol?

if its a library of games, I could see that

or like Program Files

[pliant berry]

I have no idea, looks like mostly project files and photos

[tranquil pebble]

yikes

[sage sluice]

Oo maybe

Maybe just a general wax?

[tranquil pebble]

Hmm, I could rig a mechanical keeb switch up as a power button for my PC

[sinful blade]

Me

[sage sluice]

Nah what you need is a suspiciously placed humongous red buzzer to turn it on

[fresh timber]

No

Somebody make 4070 drop to $300

[tranquil pebble]

Scalpers would be on that in less than 1 nanosecond

[fresh timber]

😭😭

[sage sluice]

Scalpers laughing maniacally unaware i am right behind them preparing to descalp them

(Im gonna hang it on my wall)

[tranquil pebble]

I could support a "villain" who did stuff like this ngl

[fresh timber]

Mhh

I could add a 3rd monitor to my setup 😃

[sage sluice]

Jason Voorhees: Pain to TikTok Pranksters

Thats a friday the 13th film id watch

[tranquil pebble]

Internet challenges that involve dangerous stunts need to die

[gleaming rivet]

#worth
I have 5 and don't think I could ever go back below 3

[lone mango]

Fr

[lone mango]

[astral inlet]

feels... if you have 6 or more, you can cause a caustic glow from a rainy day picture...

[rancid juniper]

real

[velvet summit]

i can barely speak bruh i hate being sick, even if it's relatively mild

[tranquil pebble]

I just hate it when it changes my voice because people are afraid to be around me when they hear it (probably thinking I have covid tbh)

[fresh timber]

Give me your monitors or I’ll steal your food

[velvet summit]

real
tbh i have no idea what i have currently, but it's not the worst i've been but at the same time it's rather unpleasant to try to sleep and be too hot or too cold, or have a constantly scratchy throat

and also drinking so much water because of that i keep needing to go to the bathroom

[lone mango]

Throw some electrolytes in there

You’ll probably go less

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine being able to drink the tap water

[lone mango]

Could be that you are expelling the water you are drinking because low on electrolytes

[lone mango]

Fr

[fresh timber]

Real

[hoary zodiac]

They've done something to the tap water here

Tastes like salt

Now I gotta live on bottled water until they fix it

[fresh timber]

Frrrr

[lone mango]

Get an activated carbon filter

[hoary zodiac]

Where do you live?

[lone mango]

America

[hoary zodiac]

Not you

[lone mango]

Lmaoo

[hoary zodiac]

It's only temporary until they fix it

[opaque sedge]

Its snowing for me guys

[rancid juniper]

taste the snow for me

thats a funny prediction

[astral inlet]

like... look what an ai epitome car dashboard looks like... you still cant pick up the somber natural spectrum light on the keyboard, maybe a little bit but, basically when i first did this, it blew my mind... :3 sorry for the mess hahah

[frigid stag]

This is very 2013 vibes

[astral inlet]

maybe we were never supposed to "2025"...

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-think-xmen-thinking-of-you-thinking-about-you-gif-11412700073245673764

i dunno why i selected this it looked cool tho

[opaque sedge]

Not thick enuf… and it stopped.. and got sunny all of a sudden

[rancid juniper]

😭

[nocturne flicker]

We had a sprinkle of snow for about 30 minutes

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/nnrYPChjK-c

[safe cape]

gta 6 before gta 6 ?

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/uther-v-uther-uther-no-no-way-wronchi-gif-9181682276055331017

[nocturne flicker]

Yes. GTA 6 before GTA 6. Console and then 2 years+ for PC version

Then another 15 years for GTA 7

[random osprey]

port it to the new ps6 and xbox series Z

then a bunch of modders take over the online lobbies for the series x and ps5 versions

[nocturne flicker]

GTA 8'll come out when we are all retired

[random osprey]

nah, elon will let us copy our conscious into our neurolinks and be put into tesla bots and then we can play next gta

[lone mango]

[worldly fulcrum]

can someone please help me with my pc build 🙏

[topaz crown]

Hello @worldly fulcrum! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[worldly fulcrum]

its slow and i need it really soon 💔

[wraith fern]

wifi speeds officially doubled

[sinful blade]

Ya know, with the 5090 needing 565w, that means most lower end psus would not even have the strength to power that gpu

[misty sparrow]

even with 600w it's probably not enough to power that alongside the other components right?

[mortal grail]

I run a 4090 on a 600W vbios

[worn wave]

Ehh

[mortal grail]

Got no issue here

Good 550W would be ok tbh

[worn wave]

3060ti pulls like 200w maybe. And is likely gonna be paired with a 65w cpu

With mine set to 110% power limit I don't think it goes over 220 except like transient spikes or whatever. Not saying I'd put a 550w in a new system but if someone was upgrading it would be fine

[mortal grail]

It's not stinging out if you pick correctly tho

Wattage is just a number

The safeties matter way more

[worn wave]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-founders-edition,5805-10.html

The absolute highest spike they recorded was 360w

Gaming sat around 280

Dunno what you're on about 400w

[mortal grail]

Even on this, with typically a low to midrange cpu you're looking at 400W lol

[misty sparrow]

2080ti users looking at the 3070 during rtx 3000 series announcements be like

https://tenor.com/view/you-look-lonely-gif-11874538886035131125

[frigid stag]

Vram error

[worn wave]

20 series forward the aib cards have maybe a 5% OC lol (maybe 10 series as well, I forget)

[mortal grail]

550 can work on that lol

[frigid stag]

It takes like around 2100mhz on the core and 8100 on the vram to get it to 16k on 3D Mark

[mortal grail]

I obviously wouldn't go higher power parts but it all depends on prices

[worn wave]

What's your core clock oc in mhz

Oh wait apparently some models allow a higher [than 110%] power slider

[sinful blade]

Best looking FE

100%

[worn wave]

Personally I'm a fan of the 30 series fe design

20 is nice though

[tidal scroll]

can someone make a under 1k gaming pc 1080p

[hoary zodiac]

I THIRST FOR PCPARTPICKER LISTS

I WILL FULFILL YOUR REQUEST SIRE

[tidal scroll]

YAY!!!!

[worn wave]

Stretch budget just a little and go 1440p 😍

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7tMyWc

ok went overbudget by $2

[mortal grail]

@hoary zodiac 7500F 7700XT

Oop you got it

Nice

[hoary zodiac]

yeah 7500F should put it on track

@tidal scroll are you ok with aliexpress?

[mortal grail]

Change board change psu

Msi agl

A750GL

If 80

Board go with the a620i lightning

[hoary zodiac]

99

[mortal grail]

Sadge

Ok rm650 is alright

Board def change tho

Board is awful

[proud jackal]

[hoary zodiac]

wait

ITX board for cheap?

this is unusual

ok we actually have quite a bit of budget to work with

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tGrwYd

$942

[mortal grail]

Go 7800xt if it fits and pick smaller case

Im01 if available

[fresh timber]

what do i do with my refund money

[hoary zodiac]

$1032

damn

Phanteks XT decent?

[mortal grail]

XT view xt pro yeah

Dan a3

[hoary zodiac]

a620 supports nvme right?

[mortal grail]

Yes ofc

It's a b650i

[hoary zodiac]

I mean pcie gen 4

[mortal grail]

The a620i is on a b650i pcb

It just has a different chipset

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NHwC8Q

shaved off a couple dollars

still overbudget by a bit tho

[mortal grail]

Goofy ah size

Oh that's why I thought the 7800xt would be 460

Welp nvm that then 7700XT it is

Then pick a proper fitting motherboard

Cos even I wouldn't do itx in atx

[fresh timber]

i have 7700xt

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C2HnpK

[fresh timber]

13600kf+7700xt is great combo

[hoary zodiac]

used bacca's favourite motherboard

[fresh timber]

deletes

[hoary zodiac]

clipboard shenanigans

[fresh timber]

i think one of my dp cables is broken

my 2nd monitor keeps flashin

😭

[tidal scroll]

so this is the best 1k 1080p build?

[hoary zodiac]

well

currently yes

[fresh timber]

that gpu can do 1440p

[hoary zodiac]

depends

if he's using it for several years

[fresh timber]

source

[hoary zodiac]

it's going to be on average a 1080p pc

I ran 1440p on my RX 570

[mortal grail]

Solid

[hoary zodiac]

it really depends on what agmes he play

[tidal scroll]

wheres the the ali express link for the 7500f

[fresh timber]

cyberpunk 1440p raytracing hurts

[hoary zodiac]

click on "ryzen 5 7500f"

[fresh timber]

[hoary zodiac]

link should show up

[mortal grail]

Btw boeing that case has only 1 fan

Figured I should mention lol

[hoary zodiac]

bloody hell

what would I do without techies vetting

[mortal grail]

[hoary zodiac]

why are the rgb fans the cheapset ones

oh nvm

is a 5 pack excessive?

[mortal grail]

Thermalright c12c is fine

[fresh timber]

boeing i did it

i did somethign

[mortal grail]

$12 for 3

[hoary zodiac]

it's $19 for 5

[hoary zodiac]

?

[misty sparrow]

no idea but i'd like to watch

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960914817160450078/976932593750638712/F1DC4ECF-F5C8-4B8A-A472-32429203BE7A.gif

[fresh timber]

im returning the legion go

[hoary zodiac]

it can range from mediocre lists to bad airflow and bomb psus

[hoary zodiac]

oof

was it faulty?

[fresh timber]

no

i just dont use it

iv used it for anime

[hoary zodiac]

disposable income moment

[fresh timber]

and gaming when i can walk out of my bed and go to my pc

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QpyLcx

ok felix didn't get back so I put in the funny 5 pack

[fresh timber]

i wish i got that build back in the day

i spent $1000 on a 11600k+rx6600

[hoary zodiac]

you couldn't

prices were different

the market can change a lot in a week

[fresh timber]

somebody give me money to do am5 swap

[hoary zodiac]

let alone a month

wait

11600k

not even alder lake?

[fresh timber]

no

[hoary zodiac]

well

[fresh timber]

i was silly

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

it's not that bad

[mortal grail]

Looks good

[hoary zodiac]

it's a decent chip

[fresh timber]

i then replaced it with a 13600kf cause too slow

[hoary zodiac]

it's not the ovens of the later intels

[mortal grail]

I could do a little better but maybe like $30

[fresh timber]

my old system had a problem with keeping 100fps on fortnite

[hoary zodiac]

I think that's a fortnite problem not a cpu problem

[fresh timber]

it was a something problem

new cpu and gpu fixed fps

200+ is nice now

[hoary zodiac]

wait

didn't you need a socket swap

so let me get this straight

[fresh timber]

yup, so i bought an ddr4 z790 for some dumb reason

[hoary zodiac]

...

that is a handicap

[fresh timber]

first i replaced the rx6600 with the 7700xt so i was rockin a 11600k+7700xt for a while, then i went 13600kf cause christmas

[fresh timber]

i read recent benchamrks, at 1440p ddr4 and 5 are not really diffrent ¯_(ツ)_/¯

1080p is when its like 30% in some games

[hoary zodiac]

on average they really are

these chips

especially the newer ones

get handicapped by ddr4

[fresh timber]

new reviews in gaming show its ot that diffrent in gaming

at higher reses

[hoary zodiac]

source?

[mortal grail]

Yeah only about $30
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HQ8xgn

@tidal scroll

[hoary zodiac]

$30 is a lot

oh

$30 MORE

[fresh timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYqpr4Xpg6I&t=605s a year old but its durring when ddr5 was worth irrc

[hoary zodiac]

2TB nvme tho

[misty sparrow]

i wonder if RAM speed even matters lmao

[fresh timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV3fDDLr918 i found the newr one

[hoary zodiac]

it does

[misty sparrow]

to me the amount of RAM you have matters more

i'd rather have 64GB of 6000Mhz ram than 16GB of 7200Mhz ram

[hoary zodiac]

well

the thing is

ryzen prefers 6000mhz

so yes ram speed matters

7200 probably won't even run

[fresh timber]

gear 2 go brrr

[mortal grail]

Games are becoming very cpu heavy of late so the needle will shift back

[misty sparrow]

why the hell do manufacturers even make faster RAM if ryzen cpus prefer 6000Mhz

[hoary zodiac]

intels

[misty sparrow]

-# and is it Mhz or MHz

[opaque sedge]

Jesus ram… effing ram i could have made an absolutely awesome dn joke with the word ram before i was warned how tf did i miss it in a tech server of all places

[fresh timber]

yeah, for now im more gpu limited than anything so im happy

[hoary zodiac]

and future platforms will work on thise frequencies

[fresh timber]

peak ram

[hoary zodiac]

ram innovation is ahead of the cpu market rm

32GB is the sweet spot really

[mortal grail]

Cos intel needs to go faster and still lose

[hoary zodiac]

can 13th gen run at 7200?

[hoary zodiac]

x3d go brr

[fresh timber]

want me to buy ddr5 stuff and ifnd out?

[hoary zodiac]

I wouldn't

unless it's been verified

please do not make impulsive purchases

[mortal grail]

Why you need to buy

[hoary zodiac]

you can buy a gpu with that money

[mortal grail]

Just wait for me to answer

The answer is yes

[hoary zodiac]

meanwhile on x3d:

[mortal grail]

Also it does btw just desync

[hoary zodiac]

💀

I wonder when games do catch up on cpu usage

if the x3ds are going to age a lot better than intel

[fresh timber]

play my g ames where its just cpu

[tranquil pebble]

They do, to a degree. Having more cores increases load on the memory, as does faster cores. Different workloads need different amounts of memory bandwidth.

[hoary zodiac]

my games are purely cpu

I don't even use the gpu anymore

I just use the igpu

[mortal grail]

Difference types of workloads use different cache levels and parts of the cpu as well

Bit like gpus but much more straightforward

[tranquil pebble]

yep its all very complex still

tons of factors

[mortal grail]

So some games will benefit from x3d

Others not at all

More cache is a good thing overall tho

[tranquil pebble]

down to what the game does with the CPU

[mortal grail]

Yep

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder if the 3d cache will help with cpu encoding

[mortal grail]

Think of it like how Radeon can't ray trace like nvidia does

[fresh timber]

i found out why i had to buy the legion with my own money, my mom said she looked at reviews and saw people talk smack abt it

shes now laughing at me for returning it cause she predicted it

[mortal grail]

I think it does? A little bit

[tranquil pebble]

Also, DDR5 will be of less benefit to a dual core than to an octo core.

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

[misty sparrow]

honestly who would still be using a dual-core CPU in 2025

[hoary zodiac]

Does it benefit more than cores tho

[misty sparrow]

why would they even bother making dual-cores in 2025

[hoary zodiac]

web servers

lightweight applications

[tranquil pebble]

Intel probably

[fresh timber]

embeded aplications

[hoary zodiac]

dual cores still have a use case

and also non-windows users

[misty sparrow]

thank god we got rid of single-core CPUs

[tranquil pebble]

nope

[hoary zodiac]

dual cores are still somewhat usable on linux

[tranquil pebble]

microcontrollers

[misty sparrow]

for desktop/laptop chips

[tranquil pebble]

well yeah we hit the wall with single core decades ago

[hoary zodiac]

dual core x86 is obsolete with general applications yes

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FvkH99/intel-300-39-ghz-dual-core-processor-bx80715300 theirs a reason this exist

[hoary zodiac]

and with arm

well the core count goes crazy

[tranquil pebble]

Intel 300 would go hard in a Pi like device

[hoary zodiac]

imagine

a FX-9590 on a pi

"8" "cores"

[tranquil pebble]

Threadripper 7995 on a pi

[fresh timber]

Will advertisers realize I already bought one

[tranquil pebble]

or whatever the current number is

[fresh timber]

this is my 20th advertisment for this damn thign

[misty sparrow]

they still make Xeons right?

[fresh timber]

yes

[misty sparrow]

that's the uhh

[tranquil pebble]

yes ofc

[misty sparrow]

server CPU right

[fresh timber]

yes

[hoary zodiac]

server and ex-hedt

[fresh timber]

not for us consumers

[tranquil pebble]

That is Intel's cash cow

[hoary zodiac]

I want to get a quad socket broadwell platform

because it's funny

[tranquil pebble]

they'd be fools to drop Xeon

[fresh timber]

intels my cash cow

moooo

[hoary zodiac]

this would be so funny

[misty sparrow]

i remember some guy spent his grandma's inheritance on intel stocks

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256807237022602.html

[fresh timber]

[hoary zodiac]

would be even funnier if it gets destroyed by a 14400f

[fresh timber]

i keep procrastinating with the cpu and ram upgrade

[hoary zodiac]

don't

upgrade when you upgrade your pc

you got ddr4 spare

use that

save some money

[fresh timber]

i fun fact, i cant thats board in their only has two slots

[misty sparrow]

are you using another Linux distro damn

[velvet summit]

i just noticed that the proxmox logo looks kinda like umbrella corp

[misty sparrow]

i could've sworn you were usign a different one a week ago

[hoary zodiac]

you have to upgrade the motherboard too

[fresh timber]

its a debian skin

[misty sparrow]

i remember saying "Damn are you using the cancer awareness distro?" to someone a while back

[hoary zodiac]

so

[misty sparrow]

because the logo looked like cancer awareness, that wasn't a joke

[fresh timber]

giving my proxmox machine my 13600kf when i upgrade :0

imy z790 is a MUCH nicer motherboard to, your smart

[fresh timber]

this is the first time i seen an android neofetch

[tranquil pebble]

Android is Linux based so why not

[misty sparrow]

can't flex neofetch rip

i ditched Linux

[hoary zodiac]

traitor

[misty sparrow]

not my fault if stuff didn't work on it as i had hoped

[tranquil pebble]

neofetch on Windows is kinda lame ngl

[fresh timber]

not neofetch

its fast fetch

[misty sparrow]

on Linux it took a stupidly high amount of time to compile shaders for Steam games...modding games was hard too

so

it's gone

[fresh timber]

BRO

FOR REAL

[hoary zodiac]

there is a button

[fresh timber]

WHY DOES IT TAKE SO LONG

[hoary zodiac]

"skip"

[misty sparrow]

I know there's a Skip button but

still

[velvet summit]

skippa skippa

[hoary zodiac]

modding is valid

[misty sparrow]

sometimes skipping it made the game run bad

for FNV at least for me

[fresh timber]

everytime i end up dual booting linux on my pc i end up on windows 90% of the time anyways

[misty sparrow]

I actually fell asleep at my desk while stuck at the compiling shaders screen for FNV, then woke back up a few hours later and it was still going

[hoary zodiac]

they should make it compile only one time

[fresh timber]

i should me able to hjave all my games compile when im sleeping

[hoary zodiac]

I don't compile anything

except maybe the kernel

I always get binary builds

[fresh timber]

ru exited for 50 series i go all over with my brain

[misty sparrow]

they should make it so that all the shaders are ready-to-go and you only see that screen when starting for the first time

not EVERY time

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

this isn't gentoo

[misty sparrow]

modding fallout new vegas on linux is a pain too

you had to run all sorts of Windows programs under Wine to mod the game

and sometimes they'd run into issues because they were being ran under Wine

[fresh timber]

man when i look at nvidia cards i realise how small they are

[misty sparrow]

no linux guides available too btw

[mortal grail]

LP cards are so cute

[fresh timber]

keep a windows machine around

[fresh timber]

its not even lp 😢

[mortal grail]

Mine is

[fresh timber]

if i put this small thing in my pc it would look werid

[misty sparrow]

i'm pretty used to that

the size

[mortal grail]

My LP is like the size of two highlighters

[fresh timber]

wow

[fresh timber]

for scale my case is an nv5

[misty sparrow]

i envy those with singlefan GPUs, especially the ones that don't need an external cable for power

[fresh timber]

my 7700xt barley fits in my server the case is tiny

[mortal grail]

The name that keeps on giving

[tranquil pebble]

I could run nginx on my phone if I wanted to

[misty sparrow]

yeah the size is good

[fresh timber]

id take that

[misty sparrow]

whats wrong with size, size matters

[misty sparrow]

have fun fellas

https://tenor.com/view/palomitas-eating-popcorn-popcorn-eat-chill-gif-17592961

[mortal grail]

LOL

[fresh timber]

i need a load of $400

[hoary zodiac]

imagine being one timezone ahead

[misty sparrow]

"I am always... two one step ahead"

[mortal grail]

What are you tasmanian

[hoary zodiac]

Queensland

[mortal grail]

Wow so you're fake behind

Alr

[misty sparrow]

i gave myself this name as a joke but i actually like it now

[hoary zodiac]

Tasmanian is the Australian equivalent of Alabama

[mortal grail]

It occasionally brings Christmas to the chat

[misty sparrow]

what

[mortal grail]

No context quotes

[fresh timber]

FACT OR CAP

[misty sparrow]

i've seen worse

[hoary zodiac]

like what

[hoary zodiac]

nvidia is more greedy

they're not that nice

[fresh timber]

😦

[hoary zodiac]

unless intel really spooked them

[misty sparrow]

someone was typing something and misspelled nice in one of the messages, replacing the "c" with a "g" by accident

[mortal grail]

We are pg

[misty sparrow]

i had a heart attack seeing that

[fresh timber]

ii looked at the b580 and it seems to have problems with the main game i play

[frigid stag]

[mortal grail]

It has many more issues than reviews made it look like

[hoary zodiac]

I don't play games

average linux user life

[misty sparrow]

you wanna play a little game?

[mortal grail]

Turns out using a 9800X3D on every test really favoured the b580

[frigid stag]

Yah “worse than 980 ti” for fortnite apparently

[fresh timber]

i was goin recommend it to my friend wit ha 1660 super, guess not

[hoary zodiac]

how ironic

[fresh timber]

lets mask all the problems with a 9800x3d

[mortal grail]

I learnt the hard way

Good gpu tho but yeah still a ways to go

[hoary zodiac]

this is truly a radeon moment

[mortal grail]

It actually is

[hoary zodiac]

"finewine"

radeon copers

[mortal grail]

And yet no one is saying this

Radeon was like this years ago

[frigid stag]

Aka takes them 2-3 years to do what nvidia had on 1st month

[mortal grail]

In a few years intel will have worked this all out

[hoary zodiac]

I remember used to be able to make fun of radeon drivers for being basically gambling

[mortal grail]

Ye

Now they're basically as stable as nvidia

[misty sparrow]

at least in csgo gambling you can at least keep playing games

for old Radeon drivers

[fresh timber]

i love getting driver timeouts

[mortal grail]

Little more sensitive to crashing, that's pretty much it

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

try using nvidia on linux

see what happens

[mortal grail]

I've been getting smarter lately, try swapping your pcie cables

[fresh timber]

swapping?

[mortal grail]

I fixed a driver timeout issue doing this

Yes

[frigid stag]

He’s onto something

[mortal grail]

New pcie cable

[fresh timber]

i did simiar

i got a new psu

[mortal grail]

If you have droop in the system too much, system unstable

Gpu drivers are like a canary in the cage situation

[misty sparrow]

nvidia on linux mint be like

[mortal grail]

Amd is just a bit more sensitive to it

[fresh timber]

i find a driver thats stable and dont upgrade

[mortal grail]

That works

Hey if it ain't broke

[fresh timber]

but i hate when radeon software refuses to open like it is now

[mortal grail]

Why do you need it open

[fresh timber]

clipping, checking if theirs driver updates cuase i can, etc etc

[mortal grail]

Don't clip with re:live it's jank

[fresh timber]

it works fine, enough

[hoary zodiac]

just use obs

[mortal grail]

You're all gonna kick me for this but game bar is more stable honestly

Obs even better

[fresh timber]

i unisntalled gamebar

[hoary zodiac]

obs is also

[mortal grail]

But obs needs to be open

[hoary zodiac]

open source

[misty sparrow]

for recording games or?

[mortal grail]

Figured as much

[hoary zodiac]

FOSS is good

[misty sparrow]

for recording games i just use steam's recording feature now

[mortal grail]

Game bar works fine for clipping tho

Steam overlay is better yeah

Just depends on what you're doing

[misty sparrow]

can record background gameplay for as long as you like and you can clip whenever you want

[fresh timber]

i hate u amd

nice desktop im on

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder

can you use x264 without too much latency?

[mortal grail]

Re:live is the only thing I've managed to still have consistent random issues with

It's jank

[hoary zodiac]

radeon software moment

everything amd makes is janky

especially ryzen master

[fresh timber]

i want a used 4070 super

[hoary zodiac]

who even uses ryzen master

[mortal grail]

You can use a few codecs in it

[fresh timber]

who doesnt oc in bios?

[mortal grail]

I just find game bar is consistent enough for radeon

I run everything to e cores with lasso so minimal impact

[fresh timber]

i used to, now i let windows 11 manage it

[mortal grail]

Do you use apo

[fresh timber]

no, never heard of her

[mortal grail]

If you're not using APO go back to lasso

[fresh timber]

whats apo

[mortal grail]

You're definitively performing worse and using more power lol

APO is like lasso but Intel's version

[fresh timber]

i dont pay the eleltric bill

[mortal grail]

You're losing fps tho

[fresh timber]

i can get more??

also holy this is the most fps iv gotten in this game

[mortal grail]

Lasso is good for everything even when anti cheat stops you from assigning games

Lol

[mortal grail]

It's quite a bit, if you can get the background stuff at least offloaded to e cores you'll free up a lot of performance

Lasso is what I also suggest for the dual ccd x3d

Cos 2nd ccd useful af and the cache driver isn't perfect

I remember first doing it myself I dropped my cpu power draw by like 40 watts on the KS

[fresh timber]

wow

i used to be a frame chaser ngl

something changed in me

mostly getting a monitor that doesnt look like slop at lower frame rates

[mortal grail]

I wouldn't really call this frame chasing tho just keeping your pc clean

Frame chasing would be modding your edid

"perfecting"

That ram

[fresh timber]

man

[mortal grail]

Buying a 9900K cos god that's apparently still amazing (not)

[fresh timber]

i remember all the server host saying, 9900k!!1

we haev it

[mortal grail]

Debloating to high heaven

Only run the game with capframex

Cos this is the meta

For some reason

[fresh timber]

mhh

[mortal grail]

Buying the worlds lightest mouse with a modded razer sensor

[fresh timber]

meta

[mortal grail]

Getting a glass pad cos artisan is so last week

[fresh timber]

lol

i run my viper ultimate in wired mode caues the wireles broke a year ago and i havent been bothered

[mortal grail]

And of course using a $1500 monitor with the modded edid at 480p 800fps stretched cos wideboi frames give best frame times

[fresh timber]

i made so many typos and im not bothering to fix it

[misty sparrow]

imagine an ultrawide CRT monitor

[mortal grail]

That exists

[misty sparrow]

what

[mortal grail]

Yeah it exists

[fresh timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngy9TIbREJE

[mortal grail]

Linus made a video years ago

Yeah there it is

Lol

They're unicorns

[mortal grail]

Oh and if you can't do this you of course pick a crt

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7LzXsY/aoc-agon-pro-ag276qzd2-267-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-ag276qzd2 qd oled my beloved

[mortal grail]

And you do latencymon tests hourly

[mortal grail]

The only time I got someone to buy that they returned cos the reflective glare

I was sadge

[fresh timber]

wot

i use blinds

no more glare

[mortal grail]

Yup

Ikr

That's a can of worms

[fresh timber]

like

no duh theirs glare, you got the sun in your eyes

[mortal grail]

Idk what they expected

It was direct sunlight too it looked like

[fresh timber]

yeah no duh

[mortal grail]

Anyway yeah lasso just keeps the install better running

[fresh timber]

any monitor suffers in direct sunlight

[mortal grail]

I wouldn't call it frame chasing

In a couple years you'll thank lasso for existing

Keeping games able to run lmao

[fresh timber]

tell ur friend to get this

[mortal grail]

It wasn't a friend

Just a weird boi

[fresh timber]

[misty sparrow]

stupid question unrelated to all this but i'm short on time

is it better to have just one stick of 16GB RAM or two sticks of 8?

[fresh timber]

he needs this

[fresh timber]

two for dual channel

[mortal grail]

Two ddr4, one ddr5

8gb ddr5 is awful

[fresh timber]

my friend was having performance issues with her 5600g + 3060, turns out she has a single 16gb stick of like 2733 mt or something

[misty sparrow]

good thing i have DDR5

[fresh timber]

ddr5 isnt utter poo with one stick

[misty sparrow]

I was going to get one stick of 16GB so I can eventually place another stick in to get 32GB RAM total

[mortal grail]

Ya it works cos quad channel layout

[mortal grail]

Be careful with this

[fresh timber]

my plan sfor 2025, new gpu, maybe cpu

[misty sparrow]

yeah yeah, the timing in the MHz

[mortal grail]

You really don't want to pick cheap ddr5

Aim for sub cl32

[hoary zodiac]

cheapest I'd go is 6000

[mortal grail]

Nope

Just sub cl32

[hoary zodiac]

ah

[mortal grail]

There are cl46 kits, too complicated

[worn wave]

6000 cl30 or 32 are both pretty cheap tbh

[mortal grail]

Just go cl32 or lower

[fresh timber]

ima go crazy

[misty sparrow]

and sub CL32 is...? speed classification and quality?

[hoary zodiac]

I mean cl30 are quite cheap

[mortal grail]

Ram kits come with several timings

CL is the first

Example

4800 cl40

6400 cl32

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cCKscf/silicon-power-value-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-sp032gxlwu60afdeae

[mortal grail]

6000 cl30

[fresh timber]

it isnt expensive

[mortal grail]

But yeah if you get any sub cl32 kit you can match it properly later

Cos mixing ram (and going 4 sticks) is a nightmare on ddr5

[fresh timber]

felix

did u like my ramstick thats milky white

[hoary zodiac]

2 sticks is quad channel no?

is it vengeance

[fresh timber]

yes!

[hoary zodiac]

my condolences

[fresh timber]

it works besides being milk

[hoary zodiac]

it...works?

[misty sparrow]

might consider trying to get 64GB ram instead just for fun

[hoary zodiac]

🤨

[mortal grail]

I can't see what sticks those are

I already see corsair so off to a poor start

[fresh timber]

corsair vengance

[mortal grail]

Yeah but ddr5 or ddr4

[fresh timber]

ddr4

[mortal grail]

Meh 4 sticks is fine

[fresh timber]

if u saw the color

[hoary zodiac]

corsair ddr4 is less broken?

[mortal grail]

No

[fresh timber]

u should

[mortal grail]

It's def more broken

But if it works it's whatev

[fresh timber]

.

[hoary zodiac]

it's like a nzxt case

[mortal grail]

Oh now I get it

[hoary zodiac]

no matter how good it looks