"mass effect" or something idk
#general-chat
misty sparrow
opaque sedge
"mass effect" or something idk
I’m not to keen ok shooter games rn
Had my fill with cyberpunk
idle nexus
FO4 ftw
misty sparrow
FO4 isnt for everyone
the story's not really that great if i'm being perfectly honest
velvet summit
New Vegas with 1k mods
misty sparrow
-# New Vegas still runs like trash even with optimization mods
idle nexus
"light" FO4 modding
opaque sedge
did you not like it
Not that i kinda want a game with melee combat or auto targeting to play with a controller mostly cuz i found that to be pretty relaxing
frigid stag
Speaking of optimisation mods why do people use them for minecraft and call it “demanding” it runs at 500 fps if you have like a 1050 or 960 
velvet summit
Nier frfr
misty sparrow
Not that i kinda want a game with melee combat or auto targeting to play with a ...
you can just abuse Fallout's VATS and play that way
frigid stag
Speaking of optimisation mods why do people use them for minecraft and call it “...
I guess it’s optimized for lower core count CPU’s
idle nexus
FO4 has melee & auto targeting lol
velvet summit
I guess it’s optimized for lower core count CPU’s
It's not that it's optimized for low core count, it's a primarily single threaded game with only a little bit of multithreading
opaque sedge
Baldur's Gate 3
Turn based… i gotta read altho in a lot of true rpgs reading is prolly gonna be present
idle nexus
I don't really use the former & never use the latter but it's there lol
misty sparrow
i don't know who the hell baldur is and why he has a gate....three times
just destroy the damn gate just saying
velvet summit
Minecraft could be used to "stress test" single threaded in a way
frigid stag
Idk then, it runs decently even on like a pentium potato pc
I guess people have really bloated pcs
misty sparrow
it's more of a CPU bound game i think
velvet summit
Yeah Minecraft vanilla isn't exactly demanding
It could get somewhat demanding after putting some shaders on
misty sparrow
amplified worlds on java used to be the bane of my existence
frigid stag
Ye some people have skill issue that complain about vanilla minecraft fps
It’s like almost 1k fps for me
velvet summit
TBF
If they grabbed a few optimization mods for Minecraft, it would probably jump up in fps
opaque sedge
Apparently a 27inch 4k 240hz monitor was released
velvet summit
But honestly most systems should be able to run Minecraft at playable frames
opaque sedge
Apparently a 27inch 4k 240hz monitor was released
Ppi is gonna be insane
misty sparrow
TBF
If they grabbed a few optimization mods for Minecraft, it would probably jum...
considering this is Mojang we're talking about they will never do this
they aren't going to pull a Valve
frigid stag
He means like otptifine
misty sparrow
Apparently a 27inch 4k 240hz monitor was released
frigid stag
Which u don’t even need tbh
velvet summit
Ye some people have skill issue that complain about vanilla minecraft fps <:kekw...
Honestly, I suspect their complaints are mainly due to frame drops, which could be solved if they just capped their fps
opaque sedge
Apparently a 27inch 4k 240hz monitor was released
But can even a 4090 drive popular games with high fidelity to above 100 frames at 4k
misty sparrow
He means like otptifine
I know what he meant
and I'm saying that if they did it, it'd be welcome
but they will never do it
idle nexus
my 4090 gets wrecked by Indiana Jones maxed out with path tracing at 4k
frigid stag
Honestly, I suspect their complaints are mainly due to frame drops, which could ...
Bingo
misty sparrow
4090ti when
opaque sedge
my 4090 gets wrecked by Indiana Jones maxed out with path tracing at 4k
Isn’t path tracing… still experimental
velvet summit
He means like otptifine
Optifine is kinda outdated now (not in terms of Minecraft versions, but sodium works better
idle nexus
it'll run at like 70fps ish
frigid stag
Ah
misty sparrow
I always just use Optifine because OG
idle nexus
pathtracing in CyberPunk is like 23fps lol
opaque sedge
it'll run at like 70fps ish
Damn upscaled?
frigid stag
I haven’t played it in a while tbf. I haven’t used performance mods since I stopped using the pentium pc and upgraded
velvet summit
I always just use Optifine because OG
I'm NGL I don't like optifine purely because of the ads they force on you to download, which are often malware or scams
misty sparrow
they do that with Forge too
velvet summit
True
misty sparrow
but I block all the ads so I don't care
velvet summit
Fair bit of modders have switched and/or added support to fabric
misty sparrow
Unless a mod dev chooses to rewrite their mod to work with Fabric I'm not going to use them
but all of the good stuff is just on Forge so
velvet summit
If you play on older versions, then it would make sense to stick with forge since alot of classic mods have not been updated since 1.12.2 or even 1.7.4
In terms of modern Minecraft modding though, I'd rather stick with fabric now tbh
idle nexus
nocturne flicker
Advanced Rocketry my beloved
idle nexus
why does it do this to me gosh darn it
misty sparrow
quick question unrelated to all this
misty sparrow
is Black Desert showing as free-to-keep for the rest of you? i'm about to post it in the tech-deals
velvet summit
I think black desert switched to free to play a few months ago
idle nexus
misty sparrow
I think black desert switched to free to play a few months ago
i mean, when i looked at it, it showed free to play with a time limit for the deal so unsure
velvet summit
Hmm
dusk knot
Super sharp
idle nexus
I took a picture with my phone so it's kinda like a picture of a picture
dusk knot
Hall of fame 4090?
idle nexus
yes
I should have played with settings more
I haven't played the game more than like 30 minutes yet
dusk knot
Ah…I’m a few hours in. Great great game
Just like the movies that I’ve watched dozens of times
misty sparrow
I took a picture with my phone so it's kinda like a picture of a picture
I hope you didn't debloat Windows too far to the point where Win+Shift+S no longer functions
idle nexus
lol no it works
but sending the picture directly didn't
so I had to screensnip or whatever
misty sparrow
odd
idle nexus
so a screen snip of a picture of the picture on the screen
might lose some fidelity in that transaction
tacit geode
rich
gilded kraken
I have one actually. 50 series GPU is the last piece of the puzzle
mortal grail
No
Stock tdp is around 120
Pbo is 160
Source: My one
7800X3D is 88-92 yes
Flipped vcache is a whole new ball game for power
velvet summit
sheesh
wraith fern
I hope you didn't debloat Windows too far to the point where Win+Shift+S no long...
i debloated windows so much that i deleted system 32
velvet summit
been looking at milwaukee compact impacts since they would be handy especially for tight spaces, but just to get into the ecosystem, it would be like $500 cad lol
wraith fern
cant have bloatware if you dont have a system
velvet summit
$300 for the impact, $200 for a battery and charger
(yes there are technically knockoff batteries but you get what you pay for; they're all anywhere from being a fire hazard to being "safe" but have a considerably smaller capacity)
velvet summit
6969.420 up 🧐
misty sparrow
hey look no mods here
dusk knot
Nope
misty sparrow
darn
lone mango
Speaking of optimisation mods why do people use them for minecraft and call it “...
you go back to where you started when you use shaders pretty much
pliant berry
I hate directories with a lot of nexted folders
I had started this probably 10hrs ago
tacit geode
Teracopy
misty sparrow
it's a good time to do something else you like
like watch breaking bad
some anime if you watch anime (never seen any anime)
wraith fern
dallas pays 20000 a month for wifi
trim finch
warm robin
My email from Newegg says it’s should be here from January 3-9 but when I click tracking it says 15-17
hoary zodiac
what happened?
no idea
it's been like this for weeks
haven't bothered to fix it until now
misty sparrow
so heres the thing
tranquil pebble
mechanism
atomic mist
misty sparrow
tranquil pebble
Fumo Friday
icy ore
tulip perch
Guys
My housemate keeps blocking my ps5 on the wifi
Is it okay to just packet request the router
tranquil pebble
Is it okay to just packet request the router
if you mean what I think you do then you have some issues to work out with the housemate. This isn't a tech problem.
storm narwhal
That's a person problem
unreal trail
tranquil pebble
Nvidia is gonna hit a limit sooner or later
smack right up against it as hard as Pentium 4 did
cedar compass
White Strix 5090 wen
tranquil pebble
OnePlus is out here trying to make the lock screen as easy to quickly read as possible. Based.
mortal grail
@grand kernel have to tip my hat to you btw
Your psu cable made me figure out the same problem on one of my own rigs
I never put two and two together
So that whole thing got me thinking, I went off, swapped the cables on mine, made a huge improvement so far
Wouldn't have realised it if your 13700K didn't unalive itself
Lol
tranquil pebble
Wouldn't have realised it if your 13700K didn't unalive itself
its death was not in vain
unreal trail
got snow last night
tranquil pebble
roads here are covered in salt with nothing else so just drove on salt, literally
unreal trail
cronch
green yew
roads here are covered in salt with nothing else so just drove on salt, literall...
Collect and get a salt monopoly
unreal trail
old charm
What do you guys think the odds of me being able to snag a 5090 on release week? I keep going back and forth as to whether or not I should just pick up a 4090 or try to time the release of the 5090.
The 32gb vram would be a really nice thing to have.
sage sluice
well the 4090 on launch sold out within hours and on a lot of sites within minutes
but at this price point im not sure how much thatll be the case even for desperate scalpers
i would honestly just try and grab a 4090 for msrp now while you can and before any potential tariffs take effect
depending on what youre doing a 7900xtx would be way more than competant for a lot of use cases at a better price
there is a LOT of overpricing rn for the 4090 so
im too lazy too look for deals but this is pretty cheap compared to a lot of 4090s on the market rn lol
dusk knot
What do you guys think the odds of me being able to snag a 5090 on release week?...
Not happening
old charm
I'm looking to build something thats the fastest, probably 128gb/256gb ram, I haven't even really looked at CPUs yet.
old charm
Not happening
Why's that?
old charm
well the 4090 on launch sold out within hours and on a lot of sites within minut...
Are there any vendors that will have a larger supply?
Or do all the vendors get generally the same stock
sage sluice
I'm looking to build something thats _the_ fastest, probably 128gb/256gb ram, I ...
How scammed do you want to be? Because the fastest is pretty much never worth it, since its wildly overpriced and will become midrange a couple or so years down the line lol
sweet phoenix
What do you guys think the odds of me being able to snag a 5090 on release week?...
What do you use your pc for?
If youre gaming that extra vram does nothing for you
Even at 4k
Same thing with regular ram
sage sluice
If youre gaming there is zero point going for nvidia here
old charm
How scammed do you want to be? Because the fastest is pretty much *never* worth ...
My 1080ti/Threadripper was the fastest I could buy and it's held up extremely well in the timeframe
unreal trail
sage sluice
My 1080ti/Threadripper was the fastest I could buy and it's held up extremely we...
1080ti was an actual competent product
old charm
Lidar processing
sweet phoenix
An argument could be made for dual 4080s
sage sluice
An argument could be made for dual 4080s
^
old charm
And warthunder
sage sluice
No point even mentioning war thunder lol if anything itll be the bottleneck
dusk knot
Why's that?
You will be competing against bots and hundreds of thousands of buyers. The website that you're ordering from may crash from all the traffic.
sage sluice
Not to mention i wouldnt doubt theres gonna be some artificial scarcity
old charm
I'm curious if 4090s will also be in short supply when the 5090 rolls out
sweet phoenix
sweet phoenix
I'm curious if 4090s will also be in short supply when the 5090 rolls out
They alr are
They should be $1600
old charm
I cant imagine there would be too many people upgrading from a 4090 to a 5090
sweet phoenix
The cheapest is currently $2700
old charm
I see a ton of pre built computers on marketplace with 4090s for under 3k total
sage sluice
How much money are you working with out of curiousity
Because this is mostly value for money
old charm
And what threadripper do you have?
1950x, it's a little dated but was an absolute beast at the time and still handles most workloads fine, I'm just bottlenecked by 64gb of ram
old charm
How much money are you working with out of curiousity
Idk, under $7k
I already have a case
And monitors
And peripherals
sweet phoenix
1950x, it's a little dated but was an absolute beast at the time and still handl...
Check this out, although I'm not quite sure you need that much ram and cpu performance after hearing this lol
sweet phoenix
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RM3NzP
.
7950x is almost the same cpu for a good bit cheaper, and 4 sticks of ddr5 hurts performance more than helps unless you actually need that much ram
I'd probably start with one kit of ram, and add another down the line if you need more
old charm
They should be $1600
I'm already almost immediately bottlenecked by the 11gb of vram on the 1080ti for all workloads I do
So I'm not sure 16 is enough
sweet phoenix
Id research if your tasks work well with two gpus
If so, two 4080s at $1000 should be better than a 5090 at $2500
Or whatever ridiculous price they're saying
old charm
I can parallelize some things but honestly I'd like to get a workstation card in addition to a 5090. That way I can use the 5090 for training and the workstation card for inference
sweet phoenix
Hm alright
sage sluice
I will say this is an insane jump from a 1080ti
Even stepping back to 3000 series would be a big jump
sweet phoenix
I'm just saying it sounds like you're underestimating how big of a jump this is already going to be, but its your build bot mine
old charm
Yea, I don't want to upgrade for a while and it'd be nice to give my existing PC to my GF so she can play Sims or whatever
sweet phoenix
1080 ti to 4090 is already like an 80% performance increase lol
old charm
I get it, it's not the best value for the money, but realistically if I'm only throwing away maybe 2k max over a few years, I don't see the problem
And it functions as a space heater while I queue compute tasks
sage sluice
My broke ass cryin in the corner
sweet phoenix
I'm not saying it's a problem, but you can just accomplish the same thing for less. Its not my money, you do you
old charm
Maybe. Or if I can find 2 4090s. My only hesitation is that not all workloads can be run parallel
proud jackal
sweet phoenix
Oh 100%, it depends on your specific use case
old charm
My broke ass cryin in the corner
I work as a software engineer so that's my excuse.
sage sluice
Lol fair
old charm
Even though it'll be mostly gaming
sweet phoenix
Id start with something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JfFmC8
old charm
What's the fastest cpu
sage sluice
Depends
sweet phoenix
Can always add ram and more storage if needed
old charm
Or 90th percentile value pick
sweet phoenix
What's the fastest cpu
So
sage sluice
For gaming 9800x3d
sweet phoenix
Thats a loaded question
sage sluice
For workloads thats different
sweet phoenix
There's thread rippers, EPYC cpus, intel xeon (imo don't consider this or epyc) and then regular intel/ryzen cpus
sweet phoenix
Id say the choice should be between 7000 series thread rippers, 9950x, and maybe 14900k
old charm
I don't necessarily need server grade. I hadn't heard anything spectacular in regards to newer AMD stuff
sage sluice
7000 series thread rippers would be what i lean toward
sweet phoenix
14900k with the fixed power limits is worse than the 9950x for multi core and single core
Intel had issues with 13th/14th gen with mobos feeding cpus too much voltage, which had the 13th/14th gen i9s trading blows with 7950x/9950x
With fixed power limits 9950x is the clear winner, it also runs cooler and at a much lower wattage
sweet phoenix
Unless you're doing any video editing, I personally wouldn't bother with high end intel atm
old charm
So let's call it
$650 CPU
$2500 GPU
$700 MOBO
$400 RAM
$200 PSU
old charm
That doesn't seem particularly unreasonable
sage sluice
9950x3d coming out soon
Me when i get 16 cores to disable half of them
sweet phoenix
Yes it does, a $200 mobo and $700 mobo do the same thing
old charm
$700 mobo $400 ram
Didn't price our mobo but I did roughly price out 128gb ram
sweet phoenix
Again your money you do you
sage sluice
You dont need us to tell you what to do lol
old charm
Yea, I'm just running it though my head
sage sluice
Buy a diamond ornamented 4090 if you lean that way
old charm
I really want a 5090 but I'm not sure I'll get lucky
sweet phoenix
A 2x48gb kit would be a better choice imo, and you could add another 2x48 kit later if you need more ram. With ddr5 you lose performance/speed with four sticks of ram, especially with such a high capacity
old charm
True, that's a good point
sage sluice
I really want a 5090 but I'm not sure I'll get lucky
The thing is a 5090 isnt even anything special compared to what you can get now
sweet phoenix
The absolute, absolute most I'd even consider on a mobo is $300-400, and even that's way overpriced
old charm
I didn't see any 48gb >6000mhz
sweet phoenix
Id start with something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JfFmC8
Check this list right here
6000c32/6000c30/6400c32 is what you want
old charm
Perfect. I was just sorting on user bench
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sage sluice
Dont touch ubm
Lol
They are laughably biased to the point the intel subreddit banned them
sweet phoenix
I forgot we had that
old charm
That's good to know
sage sluice
Why google still has them as the top result is beyond me
sweet phoenix
I fell into the same trap a couple years ago lol
I thought my friends 2700x was better than my 3600 bc of ubm lol
sage sluice
Thankfully i saw the outlandish slander too quickly
As in them clearly showing biased results
sweet phoenix
What's super weird is they don't base their performance comparisons on just performance
old charm
But yea, I was looking to combine open street map with NeRFs to make essentially the poor mans version of Google Earth and then integrating some lidar mapping data of facilities within those areas.
sweet phoenix
They factor in age of cpu, power, efficiency, number of cores instead of just multi core performance, and more
old charm
I had also played around with using thermal cameras to make NeRFs
sage sluice
If i recall at one point a 2nd gen i3 was higher on their performance charts than a 5000 series ryzen
old charm
Yea, also CPU architectures are kinda comparing apples to pears
frigid stag
Fps is all that matters
dusk knot
Mmhhmmmmmm
frigid stag
Fps is all that matters
And price ofc
sage sluice
nah i need my pc to be at least 50% rgb
because thats what really boosts performance
dusk knot
Ofc ofc
Every gen has a new DlSS that the previous gens will not support
Is that 1700 euros?
💀
grand kernel
Your psu cable made me figure out the same problem on one of my own rigs
new member of stock cable gang?
grand kernel
They factor in age of cpu, power, efficiency, number of cores instead of just mu...
they were just predicting intel 13th-14th gen where age of cpu is the most important thing that determines its performance
💀
proud jackal
is 5090 out yet
grand kernel
ah
mortal grail
I had spare cables but not all in the right colour so I got creative lmao
grand kernel
I might just be done with custom cables the stock cables lowkey looking fine
it's nice to have one less failure point
I'm glad this cable at least didn't fail as catastrophically as the previous one lmao
mortal grail
I use mainly cable replacements now but my older pc's still have extensions
grand kernel
idr if you remember the previous one was hitting 9V on the 12V rail and actually had some of the connector melt
mortal grail
It taught me that the voltage readouts for 12 3.3 and 5 can tell you if you have potential issues
grand kernel
yeah
mortal grail
Like my 12v was running 11.6, now 12
grand kernel
I just wasn't seeing it bc I was 400 miles away at the time
mortal grail
It really taught me a lot lol
grand kernel
11.6 is still within spec but it's sus zone
my 5v was dropping way below spec
now imagine 9V lmao
mortal grail
Lol
dusk knot
Soon .........
grand kernel
this cable had issues on 3.3V and 5V but 12V was fine
mortal grail
I was getting whea errors LOL
grand kernel
interesting
mine manifested as my drives blowing up
I remember starting cyberpunk with hwinfo open and seeing 5V rail drop to 4.58V
and I saw explorer.exe crash and then spam 1000 errors that it failed to restart
and dwm was showing visual artifacts
then quickly got a storage related bsod
3.3V rail was also out of spec at 3.1V
but 12V rail was still in spec at 11.8V
for the other cable 5V and 3.3V were fine but 12V was bad
the melted pin was one of the 12V pins unsurprisingly
but yeah no physical damage on this cable, looks perfect from the outside
I suspect 5V and 3.3V rails don't draw enough amps to cause melting
nocturne merlin
whats the right channel to troubleshoot game performance
unreal trail
bro
grand kernel
game performance? probably just here
a number of hardware or software issues could cause lower than expected game performance
unreal trail
nocturne merlin
well im playing hell let loose rn and for some reason both my cpu and gpu util is at 80% while my fps is just around 70, with no cap in settings
rancid juniper
unreal trail
well im playing hell let loose rn and for some reason both my cpu and gpu util i...
no cap?
rancid juniper
Apparently, arc b580 sucks on older CPUs. But that cpu he tested was an i5 9th gen
🗿
He also claimed that rebar was enabled
unreal trail
check my ps5
rancid juniper
Pretty sure rebar is a motherboard feature not CPU as you can mod it on much older mobos
As long as that mobo supports UEFI
grand kernel
well im playing hell let loose rn and for some reason both my cpu and gpu util i...
you are probably cpu bottlenecked
cpu usage doesn't have to hit 100% for a cpu bottleneck to be happening
80% is abnormally high for games
games don't tend to scale perfectly with multiple cores
you can even have a cpu bottleneck with 20% cpu usage
check the per-core usage to get a better idea
what's your cpu and gpu?
nocturne merlin
def not cpu bottleneck, r5 5600x rx 6600
grand kernel
I mean it could be a cpu bottleneck in some situations
especially if you have a lot of bloatware running in the background
or the game is very cpu heavy/very graphically light
5600x/rx 6600 generally wouldn't be cpu bottlenecked but it's not impossible
nocturne merlin
almost clean install, also its 80% cpu when im in a lobby of 100 people and such, i tried in an empty game and my fps is still kinda low with gpu at 75% and cpu at 40%
grand kernel
cpu at 40% can still be a cpu bottleneck
nocturne merlin
the requirements for the game is a 1070 and i5 7600, its graphics heavy
grand kernel
if the game is being bottlenecked by something occurring on a single core that doesn't parallelize
just check your per core cpu usage
nocturne merlin
would this also happen if it was a ram being full issue?
nocturne merlin
its 2x8 2666 mhz (yes slow i know) and it sits at 15 gb usage constantly
grand kernel
yeah that could definitely be the problem
2666 is probably gimping your 5600x to be slower than a 3600 in some cases
and you're sitting at basically full ram
frigid stag
its 2x8 2666 mhz (yes slow i know) and it sits at 15 gb usage constantly
Sounds like bloated windows
grand kernel
32gb 3600 would be best but 3200 is fine, could also try to overclock a 3200 kit to 3600-3800
I'm dailying a 3200 kit at 4200 rn
frigid stag
I would know. Got a laptop with 16gb ram and just on the Home Screen it uses like 9gb ram on idle
storm narwhal
wouldn't count on an overclock but it is possible
nocturne merlin
2666 on a 5600x
i've had these sticks since they were 80$ lol, probably the only part i haven't changed in years
grand kernel
overclock would be fine if it was 32gb 2666 but it's 16gb so meh
frigid stag
Worth a try
nocturne merlin
Sounds like bloated windows
almost clean
storm narwhal
True
grand kernel
clean or debloated clean
I got my idle ram usage down to 1.3gb/32gb with a heavily debloated os
I held out on 16gb for a while, debloating helped a lot
frigid stag
Windows 11?
nocturne merlin
what would you consider bloatware nowadays? its almost impossible to get a fully clean windows without disabling a lot of stuff, i just did it with a clean uupdump and rufus with world region setting
grand kernel
"clean" windows is pretty bloated
nocturne merlin
Windows 11?
yeah
frigid stag
Ye that’s the first issue
You gotta disable a lot of background apps, services etc to get it down
grand kernel
look into chris titus windows utility, it's all you need these days for debloating
frigid stag
Like windows 8 stock for some reason feels way more responsive than my windows 10 “tweaked” os
grand kernel
if you can reclaim 2-3gb ram that'll help with only having 16gb
maybe long enough to do a full platform upgrade instead of spending money on new ddr4
nocturne merlin
what would be good ram usage in idle for a debloated windows?
frigid stag
U can get 32gb for like 40 bucks now
grand kernel
out of 16gb? probably around 1gb
it'll be a bit higher the more ram you have cause windows will be less conservative with it
nocturne merlin
U can get 32gb for like 40 bucks now
yeah i really should upgrade, but if i were to get like 2x8 sticks 3600 would it be worth keeping my original sticks for 32 gb at 2666 or have 16 gb at 3600
frigid stag
Just get 32gb 3600
grand kernel
never worth it to buy 16gb in 2025
frigid stag
Just in case
There’s like 1 or 2 cases where I can why someone would
Bdie’s expensive
grand kernel
I mean
if you're buying for the purpose of overclocking only then sure
buying 16gb b-die for actual use would be a terrible idea
frigid stag
A lot of xoc guys run it as their daily
And sr can get u slightly more frequency iirc
grand kernel
32gb of garbage ddr4 would generally be a better daily than 16gb b-die lol
nocturne merlin
but is there no advantage of having 4x8 compared to 2x16? i dont know much about ram configuration
frigid stag
Some have really expensive ram kits, like galax or that 4400c14 stuff from whatever brand
grand kernel
And sr can get u slightly more frequency iirc
doesn't really matter when you can get the benefits of dr while running up against imc limits
grand kernel
Some have really expensive ram kits, like galax or that 4400c14 stuff from whate...
you could have 8000c1 if it's not enough it's not enough
as soon as you hit swap space your performance is cooked
frigid stag
Yeah I guess they don’t play many ram intensive games
grand kernel
even swapping on a gen 5 nvme would be brutally slow compared to garbage ddr4-2133
grand kernel
but is there no advantage of having 4x8 compared to 2x16? i dont know much about...
it depends on the board topology
frigid stag
I think my board’s supposed to work with 4 sticks better too
grand kernel
4x8 is worse than 2x16 on the majority of boards
nocturne merlin
btw it says the r5 5600x is only rated for 3200, although i know people run higher frequencies than that, does it not affect stability or are there any side effects
frigid stag
btw it says the r5 5600x is only rated for 3200, although i know people run high...
That’s like the minimum guaranteed
nocturne merlin
ah i see
frigid stag
You can run up to like 4000 1:1 if you have a good bin
grand kernel
ddr4-3200 is the minimum spec where even if you run a garbage motherboard your cpu is defective if it won't run 3200
worth noting that minimum spec is 3200 for 2x SR specifically and goes as low as 2666 for higher configurations I believe
frigid stag
The early am4 boards were weird. I know someone who’s 1700x would only work at 3200+ on a specific board with specific ram
grand kernel
but minimum spec doesn't really matter
you should be able to run 3600 on any 5600x unless the board is the limiting factor
heck, I was able to run ddr4-3600 on a 5600x with a $20 first gen b350 board
but that 5600x was capable of running 4800 on a better board
nocturne merlin
you should be able to run 3600 on any 5600x unless the board is the limiting fac...
nah the board is def good, but i just asked a friend and he has spare 2x8 3200 sticks, should i be running 32gb on 2666 or have just the new sticks
well yeah i could but if i just borrow ram for free until i upgrade im asking what the best config is
better than 32 gb?
grand kernel
if it's free you might as well try it
but you'll probably be running mixed dies
so even 2666 isn't guaranteed to be stable
just try it
if you can run 32gb 2666 stable for free that's probably better than spending money on ddr4
nocturne merlin
they're both kingston fury, does it being a difference frequency automatically mean mixed dies?
grand kernel
you can even get different dies in the exact same model number
with low end ram
they use whatever they have that hits the advertised spec and they advertise that spec for the kit as-is only
3200 16-19-19-39 could be one of like 20 different dies lol
lol corsair even puts mixed dies in the same package
my friend had a 2666 corsair kit with mixed dies
4x4gb mixed dies
truly the bottom of the barrel
don't worry it's corsair vengeance so it's premium
nocturne merlin
if i wanted to overclock my current ram is there any chance i can get it to 3200? or what are the variables that changes the chances i have at a stable overclock
grand kernel
lol at least it wasn't rgb pro
grand kernel
if i wanted to overclock my current ram is there any chance i can get it to 3200...
yeah most ddr4 can oc to 3200
not all
but you could try
just be warned that ram overclocking has higher risks than cpu/gpu overclocking
nocturne merlin
do i just set it in bios or do i need extra steps
grand kernel
follow a ram overclocking guide and do it properly
oh that's cute you think corsair bins their ram
nocturne merlin
just be warned that ram overclocking has higher risks than cpu/gpu overclocking
and by risks do you mean frying the ram or just instability?
grand kernel
both + could corrupt your OS/files
mortal grail
oh that's cute you think corsair bins their ram
Corsair is like the antichrist when it comes to binning
Haha you thought
nocturne merlin
meh thats fine the ram is probably like 15$ now lol
grand kernel
ehh the higher end dom plats yeah but there's also low end dom plats lol
could also fry your cpu's imc if you don't know what you're doing with vsoc
mortal grail
Oh you mean like the $600
grand kernel
unlikely at 3200 but still a possibility
grand kernel
the classic trap of expensive must mean good
mortal grail
That's not even a random number btw
And the most annoying
They put voltage locks on the pmics to prevent you overclocking
grand kernel
paying more for products that are worse than the competition
mortal grail
Corsair is the ONLY brand to do this
grand kernel
that's the corsair way
grand kernel
why wouldn't it be legal
grand kernel
they advertise a spec lower than the lock point
mortal grail
Less issues from bad bins cos no voltage messing
Meaning more bad bins
Meaning the CYCLE INTENSIFIES
grand kernel
as long as they meet advertised spec no legal issue
now uhh
corsair actually meeting advertised spec is not a guarantee
mortal grail
Not all, there are certain skus and I see them pop up every so often
Last I saw someone mention one was in december
sinful blade
mortal grail
No
sinful blade
I love the Chinese
grand kernel
don't tell me they lock the dom plats lol
mortal grail
They use the same sticks in all ram just different covers
I couldn't tell you if it's in doms but I would be surprised if it wasn't, they all take from the same bin pool
grand kernel
ah small indie company can't afford more than one pcb
frigid stag
They have titanium now too
mortal grail
They have titanium now too
The SSR gacha of the pc industry
Spend even more on Doms, still get Samsung C
grand kernel
yo guys check out my fire system I got i3 with intel hd graphics, nzxt cooler with a screen, corsair vengeance rgb pro, nzxt h510 elite 🔥
mortal grail
1 in 100 chance of high end sticks
grand kernel
high end bruh
mortal grail
Sign up now
mortal grail
yo guys check out my fire system I got i3 with intel hd graphics, nzxt cooler wi...
I've seen this in the corsair server except with an o11
grand kernel
idk what the power supply is I filtered by cheapest
couldn't afford graphics card yet in my budget needed the $300 cooler
I'll upgrade later
mortal grail
And they put like a model car on the top with one of those square bases? So the aio up top was cut off from exhausting
frigid stag
That’s what as friend of mine did. He just said as long as it works he doesn’t care
mortal grail
Like completely choked
mortal grail
That’s what as friend of mine did. He just said as long as it works he doesn’t c...
Wait until a year from now when he says he needs to upgrade because it doesn't work
grand kernel
throwback to when one of my customers told me they'd rather have rgb than a graphics card
mortal grail
I'll never get it
grand kernel
when the 3200g/3400g were out of stock everywhere and the best integrated graphics they could get was intel uhd 630 in an i3-10100
mortal grail
You lose so much sometimes for brand paying
grand kernel
with ddr4-2666
I recall they said something like
it's not a gamer pc if it doesn't look like a gamer pc
mortal grail
when the 3200g/3400g were out of stock everywhere and the best integrated graphi...
This is over the line into lost IQ territory tbh
Games play at 6fps but at least it rainbows
grand kernel
apparently they were very happy with it
playing minecraft at 720p 30 fps no texture pack on a 4k tv
lol
think that makes it a bad psu
I mean... yeah they probably are
f tier isn't a joke there's documented cases of f tier evga 700w causing house fires
grand kernel
even in a budget build never cheap out on the psu
grand kernel
squeezing a bit more fps out of your budget is not worth potentially playing with your life and the lives of your family
yes, they can legitimately catch fire
mortal grail
It's more like you couldn't say if they would do anything because retail units are completely different to pre-tested cherry picking
sinful blade
@mortal grail https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007871648778.html $1 ram
grand kernel
and he didn't learn from that
sinful blade
grand kernel
btw felix
mortal grail
<@101107951401455616> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007871648778.html $1 r...
Shows 10 for me
grand kernel
vetroo offered me a replacement I'm wondering if it's worth it my pc is stable now but voltages are still below nominal
sinful blade
grand kernel
within spec but below nominal
mortal grail
vetroo offered me a replacement I'm wondering if it's worth it my pc is stable n...
Insane W
Wtf
Yes
grand kernel
12V and 3.3V rail are perfect but 5V still drops down to 4.94V sometimes
i'm wondering cause i would have to pay for shipping and also go through the hassle of redoing all that cable management lol
grand kernel
well their message is kind of unclear
am i paying for shipping for the new one and keeping my old one? or am i paying to ship back my old one
mortal grail
Basically the only thing they do that's decent is the spark and the M40 (On low end)
grand kernel
i kinda feel like im ripping them off if im keeping both
mortal grail
i'm wondering cause i would have to pay for shipping and also go through the has...
I would still claim it and send the old one tbh
Be a G, you got it for free lol
grand kernel
im just wondering if the 5V rail values are a sign that it's worth replacing
like will it get worse over time
mortal grail
You can use it in a new build
grand kernel
cause 4.92 is not a problem now but i would not like it to fall further
mortal grail
It's the GV right
grand kernel
yeah
mortal grail
GV1000
rancid juniper
That moment when NFS heat shows my 13600k bottlenecking the GPU at 1440p ultra
Cpu: around 55%
Gpu: can't hit 99-100% but lingers around the 80s
mortal grail
That's a solid psu
grand kernel
white GV1000
mortal grail
It's worth keeping
rancid juniper
Ah yes good virtue 1000
grand kernel
idk if my current psu is fine id just rather not take another one from them
id feel bad about it lol
mortal grail
Oh, well then yeah don't send it back then lol
grand kernel
pc is perfectly stable im just wondering if i should worry about the 5V rail long term
mortal grail
Go hassle lian li instead for a new strimer
grand kernel
if it can drop to 4.92 under load
the strimer is way out of warranty, they won't send a new one
rancid juniper
Ur psu failing or is your motherboard having trouble keeping those voltages?
mortal grail
(Strimers are known for drooping btw, I did some snooping)
grand kernel
over 3 years old and the warranty is 1 year
mortal grail
over 3 years old and the warranty is 1 year
Ripw
Yeah alr I wouldn't swap them, just tell them it was the strimer
grand kernel
Ur psu failing or is your motherboard having trouble keeping those voltages?
my strimer was drooping too much on the 5V rail
no, brand new is 1 year warranty
rancid juniper
Wtf
grand kernel
even if i have the opportunity to get another psu for almost free i don't wanna be greedy if there's no reason to be concerned about what i have
rancid juniper
my strimer was drooping too much on the 5V rail
Doesn't sound good
grand kernel
this psu is only 1 year old
mortal grail
even if i have the opportunity to get another psu for almost free i don't wanna ...
Mb I thought you bought a new one
mortal grail
Yeah don't bother vetroo
grand kernel
Doesn't sound good
i was seeing as low as 4.58V on the 5V rail and it was killing my SSDs
mortal grail
But that's a massive W that they accepted it
grand kernel
yeah ive had nothing but good experiences with them so i dont wanna take advantage of them
rancid juniper
Seriously why is your machine trying to fail?
mortal grail
He's an arch user
rancid juniper
Lmfao
grand kernel
stock cable gang
rancid juniper
^^^
grand kernel
they look pretty good on the gv1000 anyway
rancid juniper
He's an arch user
Makes total sense
grand kernel
some psus do have hideous stock cables
but these are fine
those are also the cable ties that came with the psu
rancid juniper
I'd take practicality (if that's the proper word) over aesthetics any day
grand kernel
the strimer was nice while it worked
but you're quite literally paying to add another failure point to your system
so meh
rancid juniper
Lol
grand kernel
it was a real pain to diagnose
rancid juniper
Speaking of failure point, is the dreaded ram oc adventure complete?
grand kernel
i didn't understand why i was getting storage related bsods but my ssds were reporting good health and passed every test
rancid juniper
Gonna take 4200m/t years
grand kernel
i have a good enough daily profile so im not in a rush to improve it
@mortal grail
basically this is what im wondering about
mortal grail
<@101107951401455616>
That looks excellent
grand kernel
under heaviest load the 5v rail can sometimes hit 4.92
4.92 is well within spec just worried if it'll keep dropping over time
mortal grail
Me rn
grand kernel
yeah
my previous psus have maintained much closer to nominal voltage on every rail
i never ever see 5V on the 5V rail
this hwinfo has been open for 6 hours and idle for 4 of those
cause i had karhu running overnight and it errored and stopped
so even at idle the closest it gets is 4.98
mortal grail
Thing is the best case scanarios are at or above
grand kernel
im used to seeing a little above nominal at idle dropping to a little below under load
mortal grail
Being close is good
grand kernel
like 12.1v, 5.05v, 3.32v idle etc
grand kernel
in any case i guess i have many years left of warranty so i can just monitor it
astral inlet
Build Concepts? shrug
astral inlet
Device Concepts? I'm bored you talkin to me?
forgot this one... can't forget the mgx suspension
astral inlet
... i know that you can still register the gpu... but i think its based off it's original sale (i more than likely dont know)
i dont know if that was just an evga thing or not
astral inlet
Basically open box
you can also buy warrenties on amazon at the same time anyway for a specific price
insurance i mean
lone mango
True but they kinda bag you on that
I was just wondering if stuff like rma is still there on those returns they resell
I can't even find info about it online
astral inlet
hmph...
lone mango
There is a used like new g502x for $45
Honestly I shouldn't even care thats damn cheap
lone mango
I was just wondering if stuff like rma is still there on those returns they rese...
It says it will come in original packaging so I guess i will be able to if something were to happen a year from now
astral inlet
if it isnt already a year old, ya know? and even then u might get lucky if it busts you may still get service at a discount or something.. i think thats a thing idk... a mouse on the other hand is like... i feel like you'll know difference if it works in 30 days, vs just getting dust up underneath.... i replaced a deathadder cuz razor was the best in 2015... but like, i really expected something to be wrong with a triple click...
spent i think atleast 5 years on it at around 100-200hrs a year, idk if anybody cares.. but yeah
dont ever slam~ an iron claw... but man was that mouse amazing...
now im evga x17 and i can play cod on cross controller and it's ridiculously perfect lolololol aside from getting only 60fps @ 5720x1080
lol
that's what they're running now i think, atleast for football, it seems google cancled the idea of rotary camera seats as 1st classism or something lmao
mortal grail
Does used - like new from amazon still include warranty?
Depends on the nature of the purchase
Case by case
If you buy something not slated for a warranty, depending on how it is sold, the device will come with guarantees upheld by country (or state) of sale
unreal trail
:chatting:
mortal grail
If it already has a sufficient warranty though then they often just opt to that
i.e "Not my problem" approach
This does come with of course the implications of a transferrable warranty or warranty taken on by the agent but it still applies
frigid stag
Honestly I shouldn't even care thats damn cheap
Used mouse is kind of ...sus
mortal grail
Some countries also have exceptions, like for example where I am we have a law called "Fit for purpose" which extends beyond a warranty
rigid sinew
good morning !!!
mortal grail
There is a used like new g502x for $45
Also basilisk v3 hyperspeed is better for less rn iirc
Goo mor
devout forum
Welp
9800X3D is now officially stocked here in Hungary
For 345k HUF
855 dollars
Jeez
devout forum
644 USD if I "preorder" it at Alza
which is basically just a number they throw out there and probably charge more when stock comes in
devout forum
675 USD without tax normally
but taxes are insane here
so yeah
9800X3D might as well be made of unobtainum
a 7700X is literally a THIRD that
30% price for like 75% perf?
Sounds good to me
sage sluice
Im curious if itd be cheaper to head over to a country next to hungary for the x3d lmao
mortal grail
How good is the g903?
I pay like no attention to logitech anymore due to their switches lol
devout forum
It's just scalped by the actual retailers, no need to wait for scalpers to get involved
mortal grail
G305 is solid tho
sage sluice
I pay like no attention to logitech anymore due to their switches lol
I dont know anything about mice 
devout forum
Im curious if itd be cheaper to head over to a country next to hungary for the x...
I'd unironically be cheaper to FLY TO AMERICA and buy one at a Micro Center methinks
safe cape
Hi
mortal grail
I dont know anything about mice <:peepoSit:1243401249215352853>
Step 1, G305 is the only one that is truly competitive
Step 2, look anywhere else
devout forum
it's like 200 bucks for me to fly to and from the US, another 100 to travel back and forth to a Micro Center
mortal grail
I wish america was that cheap for me
devout forum
Hell I'd come out to about the same amount and have a nice adventure
And I can also like
Buy other parts and save more
mortal grail
It's like 2 grand for me to fly
devout forum
lmao
worthy meteor
It's like 2 grand for me to fly
From where?
mortal grail
Lol
sage sluice
Step 1, G305 is the only one that is truly competitive
I joined the cult of G305s, what wireless outside of that is a good choice tho?
worthy meteor
That's even more expensive than flying from China lol
devout forum
Legitimately I can pay an all expenses trip to America AND build a computer for the same amount of money it'd take me to build a computer with parts bought here
unreal trail
huh
mortal grail
That's even more expensive than flying from China lol
Lol the 2nd longest flight in the world leaves Perth to London
devout forum
though I'm almost sure that customs would try to screw me if I did bring a rig home
mortal grail
I joined the cult of G305s, what wireless outside of that is a good choice tho?
Basilisk v3 hyperspeed
gleaming rivet
I joined the cult of G305s, what wireless outside of that is a good choice tho?
Razer Naga Pro V2 
sage sluice
So are mice like razors only competent product
mortal grail
So are mice like razors only competent product <:kekw:741678350791081994>
Keychron has a good one iirc
There's also op1 8k
worthy meteor
Keychron op
sage sluice
Keychron makes more than keyboards?
mortal grail
Keychron m4?
sage sluice
Honestly makes sense tbh
devout forum
stay at an AirBNB, order from Amazon, pick everything up and profit
sage sluice
Keychron m4?
Their naming scheme will never not suck tho lmao
mortal grail
It's got the best sensor and switches for the lowest price if it's still cheap
worthy meteor
I use a M3 mini 4k lol
sage sluice
stay at an AirBNB, order from Amazon, pick everything up and profit
And a vacation in the midst
devout forum
I can deadass save like 2 or 3 months wages doing that
mortal grail
Their naming scheme will never not suck tho lmao
I wish it had chronology tbh
sage sluice
I wish it had chronology tbh
They had me at odd numbers for low profile keyboards even number for regular
gleaming rivet
I'm partial to SS Apex Pro
mortal grail
Blackhole buy mine for 851
sage sluice
Only with keychron do you need a 30 minute long translation of a product
mortal grail
It's a deal
sage sluice
Actually no cpu manufacturers
mortal grail
Actually no cpu manufacturers
AMD
sage sluice
I like amd's cpu name scheme
sage sluice
True but im also biased and keep tabs on their products so i know whats happening
I dont keep tabs on intel
safe cape
any good cheap low profile keyboard right now ?
sage sluice
any good cheap low profile keyboard right now ?
Odd numbers keychron
mortal grail
I dont keep tabs on intel
Keep ur ram down close ur tabs
sage sluice
mortal grail
any good cheap low profile keyboard right now ?
There was a limited run one a few months ago that was incredible
safe cape
under 100 ?
sage sluice
Keep ur ram down close ur tabs
I uh
mortal grail
All sold out now so even if I remembered the name it's gone
sage sluice
Only 68 tabs leave me be
sage sluice
There
sage sluice
mortal grail
Read the blurb
sweet phoenix
I guarantee you people backscroll
I've been summoned
gleaming rivet
Time for me to go watch something
Tulsa King
mortal grail
No but like fr how do you remember 68 things
sweet phoenix
No but like fr how do you remember 68 things
14 of them are cookie clicker
devout forum
Bro we're supposed to be friends here cut me some slack
mortal grail
Are you gonna warranty for me?
I'll warranty an 8
$851 cpu
devout forum
I'm sure you can do 550
mortal grail
Tbh I kinda feel the cpu a bit mid
devout forum
It's really powerful but like
north crescent
500, best offer
7
mortal grail
It has really aggressive pbo behaviour
proud jackal
Yellow names
mortal grail
Like 60% cpu it's going the full 160W
proud jackal
Get back to work 
devout forum
I honestly doubt I'd notice much of anything in terms of difference vs a 7700X
Like yes I know the 9800X3D is powerful
I still don't think it'd make that much of a difference
mortal grail
One thing I've noticed is amd still haven't worked out that annoying little micro stutter
devout forum
Sure if I was doing eSports at 1080p, maybe
mortal grail
It's not experience ruining
north crescent
I honestly doubt I'd notice much of anything in terms of difference vs a 7700X
Technically if there was a build budget you'd notice the $300 or whatever cheaper GPU.
mortal grail
But I have a high end pc I shouldn't stutter ever
devout forum
But at that point you don't build your own PCs, you get PCs as sponsorship
devout forum
Technically if there was a build budget you'd notice the $300 or whatever cheape...
TBF I'd be going with 7900 XT or higher
If I was to build rn
mortal grail
But at that point you don't build your own PCs, you get PCs as sponsorship
Speaking from first hand experience, cart before the horse there
craggy shoal
Mods won't like that btw. I'm not a mod and honestly idc. But just warning you lol
rigid sinew
has anyone watched resident alien ?
devout forum
Speaking from first hand experience, cart before the horse there
Stronger GPU > OP CPU?
Or it kinda doesn't matter
Like I'm not getting the reference
craggy shoal
Gaming PC before job
devout forum
I meant to say that the CPU to be the thing making the difference you'd already need to buy a 4090 and have like a 500hz TN panel
mortal grail
I know I get it
craggy shoal
Mountain bike before car that can hold mountain bike
mortal grail
Mountain bike before car that can hold mountain bike
Pizza oven before pizza
north crescent
7 before 5
craggy shoal
cereal before milk
mortal grail
cereal before milk
Oh good he's sane
gleaming rivet
cereal before milk
unless its your scond bowl.. then milk before cereal xD
craggy shoal
Oh good he's sane
y'all said good GPU > good CPU so I'm just stating stuff y'all would agree with
cereal before milk is crazy work
mortal grail
y'all said good GPU > good CPU so I'm just stating stuff y'all would agree with
Oh good he's sane
craggy shoal
Oh good he's sane
insane* bro what are you saying 💀
craggy shoal
Pick your CPU before the GPU bruh
mortal grail
Alr you're a lunatic
craggy shoal
thanks for clarifying
craggy shoal
:)
north crescent
cereal before milk
Milk before bowl
craggy shoal
yeah the milk goes into the cereal box
mortal grail
*bag
north crescent
Table*
craggy shoal
I speedrun cereal eating
mortal grail
Why box that's just weird
craggy shoal
table?
mortal grail
Bag can hold milk
north crescent
Table can also hold milk
mortal grail
Yeah get one of those anti spill tables
craggy shoal
Bags to hold liquids is nuts
mortal grail
They hold milk
mortal grail
Bags to hold liquids is nuts
There's a dn joke in here somewhere
Btw balou went very quiet
💀
craggy shoal
I would say it but I would be kicked fs
mortal grail
Gonna see chat in a while "I got a warning" lmao
I have no actual idea what's happening but I am sure it's happening
Lpl
craggy shoal
I have my search ready I'll see y'all later in 15 minutes
mortal grail
t!remindme 15 minutes baloubaloubalou
sage sluice
O
craggy shoal
O
mortal grail
O
lone mango
Used mouse is kind of ...sus
Its most likely a return nbd
proud jackal
lone mango
Also basilisk v3 hyperspeed is better for less rn iirc
True but onboard memory
Also weighs more
mortal grail
True but onboard memory
If you prefer omron double click I'm not adverse
There are still other options
I'm not the guy to ask tho
devout forum
But yeah
If you want to maximize experience you'd prioritize GPU and display right?
sage sluice
I meant to say that the CPU to be the thing making the difference you'd already ...
You took forever to finish your thought 😭
craggy shoal
yeah but you need a CPU that can keep up with it
mortal grail
@lone mango this is what upgrading to the basilisk v3 looks like
devout forum
What's the point in GPU where a 7600(X)/7700(X) isn't enough anymore?
craggy shoal
I like my Basilisk V3
sage sluice
So what youre saying is more rgb
devout forum
7900 GRE is definitely not held back yet
mortal grail
So what youre saying is more rgb
Hyperspeed has none afaik
craggy shoal
I would buy a white Basilisk V3 if it was available (I already have a black one and idek whether a white one is a thing)
devout forum
7900 XT might be if 1080p
4080 at 1440p might, 1080p def held back is my guess
But what do I know
sage sluice
7900 GRE is definitely not held back yet
Look at my gpu cpu combo, i can say with confidence the only game my cpu holds me back on is minecraft
mortal grail
Oh wait it has the mouse wheel as rgb
Wtf it looks gaudy
Hyperspeed was no rgb what is this razur
craggy shoal
I have mine set to white lol
devout forum
Look at my gpu cpu combo, i can say with confidence the only game my cpu holds m...
You reckon a 7900 XT would be fine still?
mortal grail
I have mine set to white lol
It looks like something out of cyberpunk
sage sluice
My mouse has zero rgb, dysfunctional
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Especially when you go up to 4k
mortal grail
My mouse has zero rgb, dysfunctional
Mine too
craggy shoal
Felix I have ADHD. Let me have my RGB blinding me. It makes me happy
sage sluice
You reckon a 7900 XT would be fine still?
My gre is overclocked, still no trouble. Doubt xt would have any trouble (1440p and above)
mortal grail
Felix I have ADHD. Let me have my RGB blinding me. It makes me happy
You're in a chat surrounded by adhd, join the no rgb side
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Ye if you go 4k CPU becomes significantly less relevant
mortal grail
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Like I doubt even a 4090 would be significantly hampered by a 7600X at 4k
wraith fern
well i have it, it's just not on