general-chat

[fresh timber]

❤️

[nocturne flicker]

Movie theaters make money? Hah, what is this, 2005?

What?

[clear orchid]

even if the base speed is 3.6?

does this correlate?

[nocturne flicker]

Why did the sticker show up?

I can't get rid of it

[mortal grail]

Base speed nothing to do with it

[clear orchid]

i see, also in my case, BIOS already says that ratio is at 47

should i increase to 48 or is that just gonna keep the crashing the same regardless

[mortal grail]

4.7 is like the lowest part of your boost curve

Your peak frequency should be 5.0/5.1

You want that adjusted to all core 4.7 or so so it doesn't try to boost too high

If your board supports it, this serves as a good test to check if your cpu is unstable

Think of your cpu like a curve

It will boost as high as it's programmed to, if the circumstances allow it

If it can't, it will tick down the curve until it can

By locking the cpu further down the curve, we can eliminate a situation that can make things unstable

[clear orchid]

i see

is this the right area/way to do it?

[mortal grail]

Yep perfect

[clear orchid]

ok will save this and try

[mortal grail]

Sync to 47

[clear orchid]

ok lemme do 47

[mortal grail]

Try 47 first

Then save and test

If it does nothing then flip it back

[clear orchid]

nothing = still crash right

[mortal grail]

Ye

[clear orchid]

okok cool lemme try i’ll lyk in sec

[mortal grail]

It's possible though really surprising if it does fix it

Since it means you have a degraded cpu

Be it just through normal use

Yes it's 12th gen I know, not a newer one

It still happens

[clear orchid]

ya hopefully it’ll fix, worth a try

if not guess i need new cpu and ram

[mortal grail]

Nah if it doesn't work just the ram lad

12700 is a fine cpu even now

[clear orchid]

whole new pc 😎

still crashed

ok will set back

😔

ok i will just order new ram
is the patriot one you sent earlier good and compatible with my mobo? idk if i found it in the mobo list but its probably not as accurate/best

idk do i really need 64gb
is this one ok? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08176KLZT?tag=pangoly0b-20&th=1

i mean $30 more for 2x the ram, i don’t mind if it’s better

[mortal grail]

The patriot is better

Let me forewarn something

Trident sticks have a tendency to literally fall apart

It's happened to me on my old kit

[clear orchid]

yeah idrk much about different rams but i’ll try out the patriot

i mean as long as it gets the job done

3200vs3600 doesn’t really matter?

[mortal grail]

Nah

In fact it's a lot better here

More gb makes higher speeds harder to run

So we will stick to the recommended 3200 to play it safe for stability

[clear orchid]

okok i see

[mortal grail]

But more gb also means SC will run much better

SC really prefers 64gb

[clear orchid]

yeah it’s a fat beefy game

[mortal grail]

Ah damn

[clear orchid]

and ram tends to work with most mobos right? i was looking through asus on my mobo to see if this specific ram was on the list, but it wasn’t, but i assume it’s still fine right

[mortal grail]

Yes

I know it's fine

QvL is a meme, they just shotgun a bunch of ram and then call it a day

They don't offer any real insight to what a board does

[clear orchid]

i see i thought so as well

majority of “popular” rams werent on the list so i thought something was up

[mortal grail]

There's a ton to learn about ram, it's a hole in the wall subject

Same with psus

Just consider it all as resellers

[clear orchid]

yeah psus sound interesting

[mortal grail]

Psus are much more complex but same principle

SSD's too

SSD's are often rebrands of the same several popular configs of parts

Like a pc build inside a pc build type of deal

If that makes sense

So don't worry about it not being on the qvl, patriot is a good brand

[clear orchid]

somewhat yeah lol

yeah i trust you and your knowledge 😎

[mortal grail]

It will likely come as some common hynix or samsung pick

[clear orchid]

okok cool i will order it tomorrow morning, ill head to sleep now. thank you for helping me recently with all this, hopefully this new kit will resolve everything

[mortal grail]

Np

It's chips and cheese for me I just use my downtime to help is all lol

Have a good Christmas lad

[clear orchid]

you too, merry christmas 🎅 ❤️

thank you

[sinful blade]

I got pants

[mortal grail]

Good

I'd be worried about your precinct without them

[sinful blade]

(We had our Christmas on eve, due to family issues)

[mortal grail]

I spent eve cleaning

I still have a bit left before dinner

About to get up and finish it lol

[sinful blade]

I technically got an old tv out of it
It’s a seiki brand flat screen

[mortal grail]

Plasma?

Man never heard of seiki

May even be LED

[mortal grail]

Oh that'll be LED

[sinful blade]

It’s ass

[mortal grail]

I still have a 2013 big screen

[sinful blade]

Sound is funky and the picture is ass

[mortal grail]

Does it have hdr

Cos hdr back then was ass

Old hdr was basically colour shifting instead of actual hdr lmao

It made TVs look green af

Welp phone's about to die, time to skidoo

👋

[sinful blade]

It does not

[proud jackal]

HUH

[chrome mirage]

I bought my grandpa a new coffee maker for Christmas and when he opened it he told me that the handle broke on his old coffee pot so he did need a new one.

[grand kernel]

just got my replacement cpu, sadly it is indeed another 13700k

hope it works at least

[fossil orbit]

Merry Christmas to you too! 🎄 🌟

[grand kernel]

okay, even though intel didn't technically give me a free upgrade, this 13700k so far seems so much better than my old 13700k that it's practically a free upgrade

it's running prime95 @ 5.5ghz HT off 1.188V Vcore right now

old 13700k needed 1.33V Vcore for the same

hopefully the memory controller is at least as good too

just testing undervolting first for probably obvious reasons

it also runs much cooler than my old 13700k with the same cooling

I wonder if the IHS is flatter?

when I removed the cooler from the old 13700K the paste didn't look like a super flat layer, core to core deltas were exceeding 10C and I was getting 80C at 200W

[mortal grail]

Yes

It deforms over time

[grand kernel]

this 13700K is getting core deltas of 5C and I'm getting 74C at 220W

[mortal grail]

Even with a frame it deforms

[grand kernel]

lol you predicted my question

[mortal grail]

I'm getting good at that lmao

[grand kernel]

idk though the thermals of my 13700K seemed pretty consistent from day 1

I noticed high core deltas on day 1

[mortal grail]

I checked with my own ones over time

[grand kernel]

I tried remounting cause I was worried the issue was that I mounted it poorly

but no change

[mortal grail]

The convex shape of the coolers, even if the ihs is flat, the extreme pressure will still malform the ihs over time

It's subtle

But it becomes more coherent to the cooler

I noticed this from lapping

[grand kernel]

interesting

[mortal grail]

So yeah the temperatures can change very little or a fair bit

[grand kernel]

my cooler seems really flat, it performed very well on my old 5800x with no thermal paste when I tested that for fun

[mortal grail]

But the shape def changes

[grand kernel]

less than 1C difference between paste and no paste

[mortal grail]

Ye

[grand kernel]

rn it's just crazy to me seeing 75C in prime95 at 5.5ghz

even if it's no HT

very happy with the cores in this 13700k

if I can daily 4000 gear 1 or better that'll be perfect

[mortal grail]

Eh I mean

Ram variance anyway

[grand kernel]

dunno if I want to aim for 4133/4200 first or just go for 4000

[mortal grail]

Even if you get a lower freq

If the cpu is stronger, you may end up fairing better even if lower freq

[grand kernel]

well I didn't change anything about the system and 4000 gear 1 was rock solid before

yeah

[mortal grail]

So I mean even if you get 3600, it's fine imo

[grand kernel]

I won't complain too much about having to drop to like 3866 or something

but will be super happy if I can keep 4000+

already stuck on ddr4 might as well get whatever bandwidth I can get 💀

how far is tuned 4000 bandwidth compared to 4800 jedec?

[mortal grail]

Miles

Lmao

[grand kernel]

I know some timings make a difference for bandwidth don't think gear mode has much impact

[mortal grail]

In terms of latency, 4000 is comparable to like, was it 6400 tuned?

[grand kernel]

but iirc something about ddr5 makes the bandwidth scale better than linearly with frequency right?

[mortal grail]

6400-7200?

[grand kernel]

oh yeah for sure latency is way better on 4000 tuned

I'm wondering about bandwidth only

[mortal grail]

Bandwidth it's not close

Ddr5 uses 4 channels for i/o

[grand kernel]

in favor of the d5?

[mortal grail]

Ye

[grand kernel]

yeah I figured

[mortal grail]

Ddr5 loses latency but gains huge in bandwidth

[grand kernel]

how close is not close? 70%?

[mortal grail]

But the latency loss is smol

[mortal grail]

If I'm not mistaken it's somewhat relative

So like

4000 vs 4800 would be near-ish 20%

8000 would be nearish double

It's not one to one for many reasons but practically similar

[grand kernel]

so it's still close to linear scaling with freq?

[mortal grail]

I believe it's to some degree like that

Google to check but yeah

[grand kernel]

if I get a stable cpu undervolt it should be fine to do my ram testing on that too right? or better to start fresh with ram and do cpu undervolt afterward

[mortal grail]

D5 adds extra channel at half rate per D4 channel

Start fresh lad

[grand kernel]

I'm not a fan of how high vcore gets in karhu at stock

[mortal grail]

Use most of your old numbers

But redo undervolt for sure

0x12B vastly changes voltage behaviour

[grand kernel]

high vcore makes me nervous now lol

[mortal grail]

None of my old stuff works

[mortal grail]

I agree but the current is much lower

[grand kernel]

yeah I was seeing 1.4 vcore at stock in karhu on 0x12B which I don't really like for a >200W load

[mortal grail]

So it's safer by comparison since the IA VR rail isn't slammed

[grand kernel]

I was gonna leave this prime95 running overnight and get some sleep but alright I'll switch to ram

I don't have access to my cmos jumper rn

[mortal grail]

Tbh

I wouldn't now

P95 is a slammer test lol

Do uh

Y cruncher

Vst is good

[grand kernel]

my board has it in a stupid location so what I did was attach a power button to it before my gpu blocks it physically

but that power button is on my test bench in the spare room rn and my sister is home for the holidays so she's sleeping in there rn lol

I've devised an incredibly cursed way to clear cmos

but it works

[grand kernel]

even if it's at 1.19v?

I figured overnight is safe at 1.19v

~160A

I'm using non avx

[mortal grail]

Idk as much as I'm confident in 0x12B I'd play it safe and not test with that

P95 is one of the infamous degrading tests for the 13th 14th gen

[grand kernel]

avx seems to drop freq due to power limit or something so I figured that was less valuable for testing an undervolt

[mortal grail]

Nah

AVX is just harder

AVX2 more so

It's lower power but much harder test

[grand kernel]

alright I'm gonna jump straight to 4000 and hope it boots lol

I don't like my cursed cmos clear method

it is...

pull a ram stick and boot so it detects a hardware change and clears it

[mortal grail]

That works lmao

Either way yeah stick to what you know, start fresh but shotgun some similar numbers

And I'd avoid like, overnight heavy nT tests that are known for degrading

P95 and CB are examples

I believe VST is good for an hour or more to do a lot of stability coverage

No need to overnight

TM5, MTpro, Ycrunch VST, PPT(?), OCCT 1 hour cpu small and large tests

Trying to think

Karhu works

Think that's a good set tbh

[grand kernel]

I'm going to be reckless and shotgun everything from my previous daily

let's see if it boots

[mortal grail]

You can if you like, but beware windows corruption

[grand kernel]

well it's booting

[mortal grail]

Odds are it won't behave the same

[grand kernel]

everything important is in the cloud

[mortal grail]

Could be better or worse

Alr

[grand kernel]

I might be dumb and reckless but I'm not that dumb and reckless

[grand kernel]

yeah honestly I'm probably not gonna waste any time on figuring out if it's better

if my old daily works that's good enough for me

my old daily is already really tight

[mortal grail]

Hey I do this like 10x a day I say it cos I always regret not saying it

[grand kernel]

I'm gonna be extra reckless and keep the cpu oc/uv while running karhu

it's running

I'm liking the power draw I'm seeing

120W, 1.26 Vcore

karhu pulls over 200W with cpu at stock

[grand kernel]

fair enough

I've already killed like 11 windows installs not my first rodeo

🫡

[mortal grail]

Ye ik

I haven't forgotten your track record lol

[grand kernel]

karhu has reached 100% so that's something at least

it's kinda just taking it

[mortal grail]

If it tests all stable then tbh I'd be surprised and try benchmarking

It might be better

[grand kernel]

I'll let this run overnight for now

if this is stable I'll try to push 4133+ when I get some free time for PC tinkering

[mortal grail]

I'd maybe do 3 hours max per test

Personally

[grand kernel]

probably just gonna game on it tomorrow lol I haven't been able to use my pc for like a week

[mortal grail]

Just cos we may not see reports of it atm cos of new microcode but something else could appear

[grand kernel]

I mean 3 hours is probably enough but I don't feel like waking up in 3 hours just to stop it

[mortal grail]

Just to be on the careful side

Ye ik

Just thinking do it not overnight lol

[grand kernel]

karhu is much lower power than p95 anyways I'm not worried about overnight karhu causing degradation

[mortal grail]

Well alr

[grand kernel]

this is pulling less power than games

if the CPU degrades from sustained 120W/100A we have a problem

[mortal grail]

Ok unreal shader doesn't count

[grand kernel]

idk a lot of games push it to 120W

[mortal grail]

Oh I thought it was 200

[grand kernel]

200W is at stock

this is undervolted

[mortal grail]

Oh if it's 120 rn I'm not worried

Alr fair enough

[grand kernel]

did I tell you the one game that pushed my old 13700K to 400W?

[mortal grail]

I'd believe it lol

[grand kernel]

I wonder if you can guess the game

[mortal grail]

My 13900's peaked at about 430-440

[grand kernel]

it's not something you would guess

rationally

[mortal grail]

Genshin

[grand kernel]

yeah

it was genshin lmao

[mortal grail]

Thought so

I know hoyo games

[grand kernel]

it was some kind of bug I think

[mortal grail]

Some areas in their engine push really insane loads

[grand kernel]

it happened for 1 second in loading screen when I was testing the game on igpu

normally it barely touches the cpu at all

[mortal grail]

FM8 does this too if you're curious

If you rewind on FM8 you can pull almost full power

[grand kernel]

I think it pulled like 30W in most of the game lol

[mortal grail]

Lmao

Ye

It's just a bit weird on power

[grand kernel]

saw karhu chilling at 300% before screen went black

bedtime

[mortal grail]

If you crank their games hard enough you can use more than some aaa

I had HSR using the full 550W on my XTX in some areas

8K 60

[grand kernel]

that's the only time I ever saw it pull a crazy number

[mortal grail]

It was barely hitting 60

[grand kernel]

yeah gpu is easier to push cause you can just go stupid with resolution

I got my 3080 as low as 17 fps in genshin

4080 as low as 50 fps

got my 3090 with the 1000w bios to pull 600w in genshin as well lmao

remember when they marketed 3090 as an 8K gaming gpu?

dude holy crap my pc has never been this quiet in overnight testing before

it's quieter than my air purifier

[mortal grail]

Lmao

This is the new microcode

It's slower overall

But wayyy more temperature stable

The main factor is the IA VR rail in the imc(?) iirc

Cos that used to be set to unlimited amperage

Since 0x127, then 0x12B they curbed that

And the behaviour changed dramatically

Cos a bit of cpu perf but made a dramatic difference

As a result the cpu is much more voltage happy as a tradeoff and I feel a fair bit more rigid in like the range of adjustment?

But it feels much more solid

Very consistent daily

[grand kernel]

lol i knew it was too good to be true

oh well

gonna keep the ram as is and set cpu back to stock

[mortal grail]

Welp, I mean it checks out

As I said voltage is higher as a trade off for locked down current

So it makes sense

And add that to sample variation

So I would've been impressed but not surprised it failed lol

[grand kernel]

surely I don't need to re-enable HT right

just back to stock clocks/voltages

[mortal grail]

I would for testing

You can turn it off once you have a baseline

[grand kernel]

I plan to daily HT off anyways

[mortal grail]

I mean up to you lol

HT off will be quite cool running yes

[grand kernel]

I'm already impressed at how little it's fighting

getting 4000 to boot was an ordeal on the old 13700K

ugh the power draw is so high at stock

I don't like it

uhhh

i know it's supposed to be high with 0x12B but is it supposed to be this high at stock?

[mortal grail]

As long as core vr vout is lower than 1.55 it's ok

[mortal grail]

Vid is similar but different sensor

As is vcore

[grand kernel]

spooky

[mortal grail]

Vr vout is the true reading

[grand kernel]

bruh why is it defaulting to mode 15

💀

that seems excessive

[mortal grail]

Mode 15 what

What's this

[grand kernel]

msi lite load

[mortal grail]

Oh I do intel default

[grand kernel]

basically eye wateringly high ac/dc loadline

[mortal grail]

I thought you were asus oops

Yeah

Set intel default there

Some bios' have really high lite load settings for some reason

On msi

[grand kernel]

it's weird cause my old 13700K defaulted to mode 12 on the same bios

so idk why this one is defaulting mode 15

[mortal grail]

Just algorithms

Is what it is lol

[grand kernel]

alright note to self do not let it choose mode 15

[mortal grail]

Some people do tuned LL

I just do default

Can't run into issues with default lmao

[grand kernel]

it's running much lower now going back to bed hopefully I don't hear a beep lol

I use LL for undervolting

I heard that was the way to do it for these chips?

[mortal grail]

I use the cpu LL mode 5 on msi

But lite load intel default

[grand kernel]

aaahh

[mortal grail]

Maybe I'm pedantic? I'd rather not discover some random new issue lol

[grand kernel]

I have LLC on auto and use lite load to undervolt

[mortal grail]

Ah

[grand kernel]

LLC autos to something that looks droopy enough

[mortal grail]

Yeah I do the reverse lol

Ye on msi cpu llc is wonky af

[grand kernel]

mode 2 was giving me like 1.3 idle 1.18 load

I like those numbers

I think the 517% error might have just been a vdimm issue

I accidentally put in 1.53 instead of 1.54

[mortal grail]

Well you'll know soon enough

Lol

[grand kernel]

if it errors again I'm just gonna shut it down I need to sleep

it's almost 4am here

I found out the cpu was delivered at 1am

was delivered much earlier but I was busy with family stuff for holidays lol

I'm going to a christmas party tomorrow so that's a solid few hours I can leave the pc running a test at home if needed

[mortal grail]

[tranquil pebble]

I need coffee lol

[grand kernel]

good night, thanks for the chat I'll let you know how karhu went in the morning

probably gonna sleep through it if it beeps at night ngl

my sleep tracker might be confused

[mortal grail]

Alr

Don't

Fake account

@elfin mural

We have a real account, @digital thunder

Don't click that invite link

[elfin mural]

i was boutta ban

oh here it is

[mortal grail]

Thx

[elfin mural]

what

[mortal grail]

Day is saved

[elfin mural]

THEY LEFT

LMAO

didn't even have to

[mortal grail]

What lmao

Oh I reported them

Maybe that's why?

[elfin mural]

ah

maybe

[mortal grail]

Their message is gone

Do you have a discord id in logs?

You can ban there if they left by using that

Obviously malicious account so worth doing

[tranquil pebble]

mods should have some sort of log channel or something I would think

[elfin mural]

i have a log

hol on

i forgor

ok done

they wont pester us in the future

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

Santa didn't leave me anything

[cedar compass]

[tranquil pebble]

I am getting an AM5 mobo to start my next build with

probably going to end up getting 7800x3d at this rate

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1004644552709246996.gif?size=160&quality=lossless

[tranquil pebble]

or maybe 9950x

[devout forum]

9800X3D

Should be stocked early next year without too much hassle hopefully

[mortal grail]

Just wait until the hype dies down

98800X3D will be the meta pick

oops

Welp

98800 will be

If we make it that high

[tranquil pebble]

9950x3d

[gleaming rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/merry-christmas-gif-11601003688880520340

[sour falcon]

WOOO TOYOTATHON

[rough zinc]

13900K is best meta, smh

[mortal grail]

Ok mr. 25% slower

Let's get you to bed

[mortal grail]

https://youtube.com/shorts/6VxNwO3E6-Y

[rough zinc]

But mah cores

Core count most important

[mortal grail]

9950x3d gotchu fam

[rough zinc]

Blue > Red

Just a nicer color overall

And intel is blue

Meaning intel #1

[mortal grail]

As we can see here his profile is blue

So he is intel inside

[rough zinc]

Exactlyyyy

Now you're getting it

[mortal grail]

Please log in to use more chatgpt questions

[devout forum]

Meanwhile we're yellow

What hardware corp had yellow as their color?

Voodoo?

[mortal grail]

Moore's law maybe

300W 3060 here I come

[devout forum]

He's a youtuber Felix

[mortal grail]

No

Moore is a former CEO of Intel

His law is an accepted theory

[rough zinc]

350W 3700x is where it's at

[devout forum]

Huh

[mortal grail]

Moore's law is dead is a hype farmer and pulls fake leaks all the time

[tranquil pebble]

Kentucky Fried CPU

[mortal grail]

You'll know it after you've watched a couple generations of his vids

He's full of crap

He'll delete wrong videos to hide his lies

[rough zinc]

Just like me!

[tranquil pebble]

I'm full of cells

[mortal grail]

I'm full of stem cells

Wait you're not supposed to know that

https://tenor.com/view/f-bi-raid-swat-gif-11500735

[rough zinc]

You are a stem cell

[mortal grail]

Nah I'm a [redacted]

[tranquil pebble]

SCP 6959

[craggy shoal]

Merry Christmas weggers

[mortal grail]

Who are you again

[craggy shoal]

You get a new phone or something?

[mortal grail]

Haircut

Also why you asking, stranger

[craggy shoal]

"Who are you again?" As if I’m the one with Alzheimer's 💀

[mortal grail]

Mods mute this stranger

[velvet summit]

What's my age again

[mortal grail]

343

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/blink182-music-video-when-youre23-band-play-gif-4898176

[icy ore]

Hey guys i want to wish you all a Merry Christmas. Discord is full of copypasted Christmas messages, that people don't even read and just forward to other servers. I don't like that. I like to write what i deeply wish and what comes from my heart. Our friendships, from the most deep ones to the most virtual ones are very important and will never be represented by a simple message copied from elsewhere. This being said I would like to thank all of you. You are the best hockey team i've ever played with.

[velvet summit]

Hey guys i want to wish you all a Merry Christmas. Discord is full of copypasted Christmas messages, that people don't even read and just forward to other servers. I don't like that. I like to write what i deeply wish and what comes from my heart. Our friendships, from the most deep ones to the most virtual ones are very important and will never be represented by a simple message copied from elsewhere. This being said I would like to thank all of you. You are the best work union i've ever worked with.

[surreal kernel]

one question

what's the best thermal paste applying pattern?

[velvet summit]

Depends on cpu

[surreal kernel]

r5 5600

nothing crazy

[velvet summit]

Well, rather it depends on the die*

5600 should be fine with a generous pea

[mortal grail]

Cover the top surface always and there's no need to think about it

[surreal kernel]

and I just slap the cooler on top?

or do I need to spread it

[velvet summit]

Give the cpu a good lick

Make sure it tastes right

[surreal kernel]

I'm being serious 😭

[mortal grail]

Lick for good luck

Rub 3 times to summon the ryzen genie

[velvet summit]

The l in lick stands for luck

[surreal kernel]

guys cmon

😭

[velvet summit]

Spreading is usually the best method but ain't nobody got time for that

[mortal grail]

Man it's Christmas loosen up a lil

[gleaming rivet]

Hey guys i want to wish you all a Merry Christmas. Discord is full of copypasted Christmas messages, that people don't even read and just forward to other servers. I don't like that. I like to write what i deeply wish and what comes from my heart. Our friendships, from the most deep ones to the most virtual ones are very important and will never be represented by a simple message copied from elsewhere. This being said I would like to thank all of you. You are the best lingerie salespeople i've ever worked with.

[surreal kernel]

what the hell dk I spead it with

I tried spreading it and it just hardened up and

[velvet summit]

Spreader spoon if included

What

[surreal kernel]

didn't spread

[surreal kernel]

it ain't

[velvet summit]

Hardened???

[surreal kernel]

I tried using the wet wipes packet

[mortal grail]

Case hardened

[surreal kernel]

that the thermal pase came with

it didn't spread

[velvet summit]

https://youtu.be/09tbodL4M6I?si=l9Qvzj-88BaTRRDe

[velvet summit]

That's for cleaning the cpu

Prior to a new paste application

(not strictly needed)

Most PC builders don't spread the paste

[mortal grail]

We call those flat earthers

They don't believe in the curve of the earth leaking the paste everywhere

[velvet summit]

Small square cpus: rice grain sized paste (nothing is really that small anymore)
Am4 sized cpus: pea sized
Intel rectangles: line like a hotdog
Threadripper, epyc, xeon: x with dots

[mortal grail]

Or just

Cover all of them in a layer and don't remember anything else

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-26155047

343 rn

💀

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-kid-peanut-butter-baby-peanut-butter-do-you-like-that-yeah-gif-14466576

[mortal grail]

Indeed 💀

Why does he look so compus mentus for a child

He she?

They?

[velvet summit]

Da baby

[mortal grail]

Da babie

[velvet summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809840106478502011/1321486370937639002/christmas.webm?ex=676d6996&is=676c1816&hm=eca585c1043bec1078845a06a862c9c49dc2732d5999b3f25e1dbe33998644ca&

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-jeffy-cosmo-wanda-da-rules-gif-25471467

[sinful blade]

@mortal grail

Found the specs

It’s a 2012 tv

[mortal grail]

Ah I was close

LCD damn

[sinful blade]

It’s bad

8ms response time

[mortal grail]

8ms is not bad

That's claimed btw

It will be more irl

TVs from that time often had way more

Sometimes well over 60ms

[craggy shoal]

Old asf

[mortal grail]

Only a few years later did we start seeing low response TVs

Adding a "game mode" and then actually delivering

[craggy shoal]

I think TVs are still slow asf (compared to monitors) even with the game mode turned on

[mortal grail]

Nope

[craggy shoal]

The game mode helps but I’m still not buying a TV strictly for gaming

[mortal grail]

Just about all of them are fine now

[craggy shoal]

imo* my bad

At least my TV

[mortal grail]

Oled especially

Oh well yours is yours

Probably strapped a motor to it or something

Smh

Stranger

[craggy shoal]

Yeah bad throttle response or something idk

It only does 60Hz so it's like not even turbo'd

Econobox TV fr

[mortal grail]

Well turbos would make it worse with turbo lag

[craggy shoal]

"60 Hz for safety" ahh TV

[mortal grail]

So at least you got that part right

[craggy shoal]

Yeah exactly so a poorer throttle response

[mortal grail]

Didn't pick a good flywheel tho so for that you messed up

[craggy shoal]

Yeah maybe

Man I really like bread

[mortal grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SGimoONJvE

[rough zinc]

43" best monitor screen size

[mortal grail]

Preach brother

Oh wait no

43" is

[rough zinc]

Indeed it is

[mortal grail]

You'll know exactly what I mean by this alec

It's like 4 monitors

[rough zinc]

[mortal grail]

4 monitors 1 plug

[rough zinc]

Oh god

[mortal grail]

I didn't think you'd get that

I can't type now

[rough zinc]

Idk which monitor id rather use now ngl, the 57" UW or this 43" TV

[mortal grail]

43 all the wayyyy

[craggy shoal]

Shouldn't it be 5 monitors?

[rough zinc]

I wasn't born yesterday lmao

[mortal grail]

I swear danny was tho

[mortal grail]

That's a weird way to stack a square screen

[rough zinc]

Only downside to the 43" samsung is the response time being like 25ish ms

[mortal grail]

If you configure it wrong ye

[craggy shoal]

Two on top three on bottom

[mortal grail]

Gotta mess with the input mode

[rough zinc]

Wdym?

[mortal grail]

I have excellent input on no overdrive

Wait

[rough zinc]

Oh you also have this monitor?

[mortal grail]

Mine's the gigabyte version

Yes

FV43U is a Samsung QLED

[rough zinc]

Ahh

Do you also get the funny smart TV with the gigabyte or is it just the panel being the same?

[mortal grail]

Nah just the monitor

I get a kvm tho

Nice af tbh

So for me it's picture quality

Or basically no overdrive

Might work with yours?

[rough zinc]

Maybe, I'll play around with the settings a bit more

[mortal grail]

Just beware

They will say higher input lag cos of hz rate

[rough zinc]

Ngl I'm fine with the way it is rn, don't really see much ghosting but also I only really play single player games rn

[mortal grail]

Ye it's VA after all

[rough zinc]

Really pretty VA lol

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah by a mile

It's nothing like normal VA

It's ironic, the OLED version was like 100 more, that thing aged like milk lmao

[rough zinc]

When I was at MC comparing everything this one stood out so much compared to everything else around it except for the samsung OLEDs

[mortal grail]

Ye

It's like

Nearly there

But no caveats

[rough zinc]

Don't think I can do better for under $600 lol

[mortal grail]

That was the whole reason I picked it too, though at the time there was no cheap oled under 1200

[rough zinc]

• i get a smart tv with this too

Literally the exact same features as the S95B i got my parents

Built in streaming services go hard

[mortal grail]

Well smart tv is pretty standardised across brands

So ye

[rough zinc]

This is the first actual monitor that has any smart tv features that I've used

[craggy shoal]

Yeah then you wait a year and then your TV is too slow to run YouTube at 1080p

[mortal grail]

My 2013 TV still has no problems

Eh?

[craggy shoal]

Must be an American thing

Samsung moment

[mortal grail]

It's an LG

So mayhappers

Mayhappers LG was just a W

[rough zinc]

My LG from like 2010 still runs everything without issues

[craggy shoal]

Man wtf

Must be a modern smart TV thing lol

Make them super cheap and sell them for a $100 more than they’re worth

[mortal grail]

My fire stick from like 2016 can run streaming no problem as long as the thing reads the program

💀

Motor maybe it's the motor on the back idk

[rough zinc]

But like also, doesn't matter when I can just switch to my desktop input when it becomes too slow

[craggy shoal]

Maybe. Thing is running on brake cleaner probably

[mortal grail]

Slow?

When slow

[tranquil pebble]

in the 10s yeah LG was based. They seem to have gone off the deep end with some of their smart products lately though

[rough zinc]

What slow

[mortal grail]

Why slow

[rough zinc]

Where slow

[craggy shoal]

How slow?

[mortal grail]

[craggy shoal]

Who slow?

[rough zinc]

You slow

[mortal grail]

About ecoboost slow

[craggy shoal]

When slow?

[mortal grail]

Wow double hit

Wtf

[rough zinc]

[craggy shoal]

[mortal grail]

Our brain cells are aligning

[rough zinc]

Nah

It's one braincell

Bouncing between the three of us

[craggy shoal]

Yeah we're just all sharing it

[mortal grail]

That might be why signal is bad

It just doesn't like motor's head

[craggy shoal]

Nah yore just Australian

[mortal grail]

I seem to get the brain cell more often tho

[rough zinc]

He is the techie after all

[craggy shoal]

Wireless brain cells goes crazy

[mortal grail]

The nexdt big thing after wireless esd bracelets

nexddt

[rough zinc]

Yall see those samsung rings?

[craggy shoal]

Literally air to ground fr

[mortal grail]

What

[tranquil pebble]

anyone know if a b650 tomahawk can flash bios without a CPU or RAM? It has a button for BIOS flash but idk if it requires a CPU to do it

[mortal grail]

Does it come with gandalf

These rings

[mortal grail]

Believe it actually can yes

[rough zinc]

https://www.samsung.com/us/rings/galaxy-ring/

[mortal grail]

My unify does it

You need a bios flash switch tho

That's the requisite

[tranquil pebble]

it has that

[mortal grail]

Yeah I think it might do

[tranquil pebble]

I'll just have to try ig

I want to make sure it is ready for 9000 series

[mortal grail]

Oh god made of titanium, this thing boutta scratch up like an iphone in a minute

[rough zinc]

Idk why it even exists

[mortal grail]

You know what this reminds me of

Fitbit but finger

Lol

[tranquil pebble]

smart devices are getting sus ngl

[rough zinc]

Thats what it's supposed to be but like $400 for it?

Really?

[mortal grail]

Fr, that's a no from me too dawg

Fit bits are like $50 lmao

[rough zinc]

I don't even want to get a smart watch already

Why the ring?

[mortal grail]

Ok hot take

I don't mind the smart watch

I don't like a LOT about it

[rough zinc]

I just don't have a use

[mortal grail]

But I can remove most of it

And as a smart watch, all the bs out, it's not all that bad tbh

The ring is weird tho

Like the watch you can make and receive calls with

You can also pay with

[rough zinc]

Thats actually kinda xool

[mortal grail]

Send messages and stuff

Ya it's a little handy

Is it worth? No

But I wouldn't put it anywhere near the same level as the others

If you want a nice watch it's lowkey kinda useful as hell

[rough zinc]

Phone wise, i definitely prefer the S24U over the apple offerings, but accessory wise apple is still on top

[mortal grail]

I think I'd still take an Xperia over the Galaxy these days

I had a lot of issues due to local carrier law, but I do think the phone is great all things considered

[tranquil pebble]

I should wear a microcontroller for lulz

[rough zinc]

I got mine for $200 so I can't complain about it

[mortal grail]

Oh wow

That's a W

Fair enough

I paid over a grand for mine

[rough zinc]

Got it at the best buy verizom booth, got the discount from best buy down to $1000, then got $800 trade in from Verizon for my 13 pro max

[mortal grail]

I am making it last though

nearly 3 years now on mine

I want another 3 then I'm satisfied

Here's hoping

[rough zinc]

I just want mine to last like 4 years

Then upgrade time again

[mortal grail]

My next phone might be an Xperia

Or I might go apple again

Just to avoid any compliance bs

[rough zinc]

Depends if I finally get that macbook for me ngl

[mortal grail]

Cos the thing is, I either am a fish in a school of random fish, or I am a fish in a school of fellow fish when it comes to software

If that makes sense

So I won't get singled out if I have some stupid carrier issue

Also apple is really transparent about privacy stuff unlike google

So like a plug and play situation if I went apple if that makes sense

But I do really like the xperia so idk

[rough zinc]

Idk what ill switch to because in the future I'll probably have an even bigger apple ecosystem but at the same time I love the freedom android gives

[mortal grail]

I like having an audio jack

Not just an audio jack either but a decent codec

[mortal grail]

Just hate network issues lmao

You saw what happened to me right?

Couple months ago

Ah welp

He gon

[rough zinc]

Nah i be here

[rough zinc]

What did you do this time,

?

[mortal grail]

Wym what I did

Wait

[rough zinc]

[mortal grail]

Change chat

[elfin mural]

i can't belive that roblox is the reason i feel like i need 32gb ram

im at 1gb free or less while playing roblox lmao

[cedar compass]

"Like new" mobo from warehouse

[dusk knot]

Skull emoji

[tacit geode]

skill issue

why you breaking stuff like kenzie

[tranquil pebble]

oh great, I better check my tomahawk then

[cedar compass]

Yeah user error

[tacit geode]

smh

[chrome portal]

Merry Christmas

[craggy shoal]

Merry Christmas weggers

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-pcb-leak-reveals-massive-gb202-gpu-package

merry christmas nerds

[dusk knot]

Not on this server......

[rancid juniper]

what was that

[rough zinc]

🎄🎅 Merry Christmas, Discord Fam! 🎅🎄

It’s that time of year again—when we all pretend to be productive at work/school, but really, we're just spamming memes, sending way too many Christmas emojis, and complaining about lag during holiday game sessions. 😎

May your DMs be filled with good vibes, your pings be low, and your game crashes be nonexistent. May you be blessed with an endless supply of holiday snacks, and may your internet hold strong through every voice call with a screen share lagging for no reason.

Here's to the true holiday spirit: spamming "Merry Christmas" in every server you’re in, telling bad Christmas jokes, and saying “gg” at the end of every round because, let’s face it, we’re all just here for the fun. 🎮

Also, don’t forget to flex that new shiny Discord Nitro badge like it’s the ultimate Christmas gift. 🎁

🌟 Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and Happy Pinging! 🌟

[mortal grail]

Wow JP really just Quentin Tarantino'd the guy wth

[rough zinc]

Some religious crap

[rancid juniper]

oh

[rough zinc]

Chatgpt is funny

[mortal grail]

It's funny about 10 times then it wants my asl

[rancid juniper]

ask it on how to make a cpu at home

[mortal grail]

Start with 20g depleted uranium

Wait lemme repeat for the fbi rq

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-cat-2-suspicious-cat-the-cat-looks-suspiciously-cat-sits-in-front-of-food-the-ginger-cat-is-watching-gif-14890167989997543813

[mortal grail]

DEPLETED

URANIUM

GOT THAT?

Ok next-

[rough zinc]

I gotchu

[rancid juniper]

bro on the watchlist im afraid

💀

[rough zinc]

Always have been

[mortal grail]

I didn't get a free watch tho which is bs

[rancid juniper]

yes

[mortal grail]

Wait why delete

Now you just look sus

[rancid juniper]

whatever do you mean?

[mortal grail]

Frost I've been naughty

[rancid juniper]

☠️

ok

[mortal grail]

I need to be punished

By a government organisation

Wh-

[rancid juniper]

🤨

[mortal grail]

No I'm not saying the next line

Too far

[rancid juniper]

real

[mortal grail]

Guys unrelated question anyone know what it feels like to be whipped

Unrelated question to the unrelated question should we make a felix killed chat emoji

[craggy shoal]

Possible. You need a few bread boards but it's possible lol

Probably will only run at 2 Hz but it's possible 💀

[mortal grail]

Just add more voltage

Turn it from a 🍞 board

Into a z board

[craggy shoal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRlSFm519Bo&list=PLowKtXNTBypGqImE405J2565dvjafglHU&index=2

[wraith fern]

Hehe I got my keeb

It’s great

[craggy shoal]

I got my Beelink mini PC. Time for a dedicated Plex/Jellyfin server

[mortal grail]

What keeb

[mortal grail]

Weird side question

Why does it feel like every linux thing in existence has a surprising amount of animal or animal related names

[craggy shoal]

idk lmao

[sinful blade]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/control

[craggy shoal]

It might be my lack of sleep but the only two I can think of is Manjaro and Ubuntu

Are there more?

[mortal grail]

Like just a few off a quick google

Firefox

Thunderbird

Kali

[craggy shoal]

Linux doesn't own Firefox lol

[tranquil pebble]

I did something like this in highschool

[mortal grail]

Pidgin

Postbird

Dbeaver

Turtl

[tranquil pebble]

no, but it seems like it was practically made for Linux with how well it works on it

[mortal grail]

Kitty

Gitkraken

[wraith fern]

A boog 75 he keeb

[mortal grail]

Oh god if you type in "Why do linux names often have animals in them" it just gives you linux people ranting about how it's not

💀

[mortal grail]

YUSSSS

[wraith fern]

You like meletrix?

[mortal grail]

Suse is also a lizard apparently

[mortal grail]

I am bridge75

[wraith fern]

Ooh nice

I like my boog

It’s a very nice keeb

@mortal grail I was still rocking a 5 year old k552 lmao

[mortal grail]

Sounder is apparently a pig in linux terms

Gnu is an antelope species

LOL

Wth

Why are so many just animals

[lone mango]

[mortal grail]

This is like the zoo for PC's

[rancid juniper]

this again? bad christmas gift epic

but i guess its fine for anyone else who don't have it

[mortal grail]

I want it

Sorry I'm joking just trying to be nice

[rancid juniper]

heh

average bs leak

[craggy shoal]

lmao

Don't be shy. Send the link

[rancid juniper]

lol alr:https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch2/comments/1hm3lv3/screw_it_heres_all_the_nexthandheld_images/

[mortal grail]

First pic is a dock

Second the back of the screen

[craggy shoal]

Wow what great photos

[mortal grail]

Third the side of the screen

That

That actually might be real wtf

[rancid juniper]

some people are claiming that its either ai generated or that OP is a terrible photographer

[craggy shoal]

OP is a terrible photographer

I don't think it's AI generated

[rancid juniper]

if thats the case its gotta be intentional

[mortal grail]

Whoever is the op has the worse phone camera in existence on some 2024 phone

That post processing is garbage

[worn wave]

Someone is pointing out that the 2 next to the switch logo has the wrong perspective

If people don't wanna flip back and forth to the reddit post

[mortal grail]

Tmw discord has better compression than OP

[worn wave]

I mean I just grabbed them from the reddit post, should be the same

[mortal grail]

I can see the text on the dock better

💀

[unreal trail]

lol

[grand kernel]

@mortal grail rip

[rancid juniper]

doesn't look like a christmas gift

[grand kernel]

the christmas gift is hopefully having a working cpu again lmao

[craggy shoal]

The joy of having stuff actually work is the best type of joy

[mortal grail]

Loosen trfc to 300 and try again

[grand kernel]

did you see? the cores in this one are way better

oh I decided to revert like half the timings and shotgun smaller batches

[rancid juniper]

lol

[wraith fern]

@mortal grail the boog75 is great to type on. can really feel the HE in the switches.

[chrome mirage]

I bought my mom a cordless vacuum for Christmas and she already dropped it

[grand kernel]

I'm very thankful for my laptop being a reliable backup machine for the past week but even with the same peripherals gaming on laptop just doesn't compare

[icy ore]

Merry Christmas fellas

[chrome mirage]

Why did my parents have to pick today to have a Christmas party

[icy ore]

Well it is Christmas

[craggy shoal]

Me as an introvert thinks that Christmas Eve is the better day to have a Christmas party

[tranquil pebble]

B650 mobo seems to arrived safely. Now waiting on 9000 series x3d to not be absurdly hard to buy

[chrome mirage]

I agree

[wraith fern]

mine is tomorrow lol

i wish it was something like the 23rd but its whatever

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it will be ok

[grand kernel]

well that sure beats a kick in the teeth

[elfin mural]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070ti-series-specs-have-been-leaked-rtx-5070-with-12gb-memory

still 12gb

5070 ti with 16gb

this tells me the 5060 WILL flop unless it has good perf uplifts

[dusk knot]

Weak

[icy ore]

Good grief

Greedy ass company

[lone mango]

Nah really its like a 5050

And that is more like a 5060 ti

[elfin mural]

real

[lone mango]

With how cut down the rest of the lineup is

[elfin mural]

5050 will get 8gb but like

im underwhelmed

if anything it's a 5040

[cedar compass]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/904073551957614703/1003165002196340786/hattip-resize.gif

[dusk knot]

Howdy

[icy ore]

[opaque sedge]

Steak bowl

With veggies

I boiled briefly with turkey stock

[proud jackal]

[cedar compass]

[sweet phoenix]

It's unsurprising to me

Nvidia won't bother with being our friends, why should they? They've had great sales even with how horrible 40 series pricing is

Unless 8000 series is as good value as people have rumored, we're in for another two years of overpriced gpus and recommending used/refurb options

[opaque sedge]

Amd is dubbing their next gen gpu as rx90xx apparently 💀

So the supposed 8800xt is gonna be the rx9070xt apparently

[dusk knot]

I’m starving over here

[opaque sedge]

Starve

More

[dusk knot]

😩

[opaque sedge]

Duck