general-chat

[bitter dust]

@hoary zodiacthanks boeingg

[idle nexus]

lol "heatsink"

[bitter dust]

now i see

and you ggood thanks for helping me

[idle nexus]

then it has 4 PCIe slots like piled on top of each other down there what the heck lol

npnp

[hoary zodiac]

Hope you get a good pc

[nocturne flicker]

Oh, I didn't even notice it over all the sata slots, they shoved a second m.2 in there

[bitter dust]

but last time i need to make sure about something

[hoary zodiac]

is it the 7700x

[bitter dust]

no the storage and memory

[hoary zodiac]

the MP44L is better than the Kingston NV2

Kingston makes terrible quality ssds

[bitter dust]

G.SKILL Flare X5 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000) Desktop
DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000)
Timing 30-38-38-96
CAS Latency 30
Voltage 1.35V

TEAMGROUP MP44L 2TB SLC Cache NVMe 1.4 PCIe Gen 4x4 M.2 2280 Laptop&Desktop SSD (R/W Speed up to 4,800/4,400MB/s) TM8FPK002T0C101

[hoary zodiac]

the ram is fine

I assume the cheaper ones aren't available because of regional issues

[bitter dust]

MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

89$

[hoary zodiac]

yes

[bitter dust]

what about the corsair is it bad

the memory

[hoary zodiac]

very bad

[bitter dust]

corsair ven

my friend took it (:

[hoary zodiac]

corsair makes good power supplies

[bitter dust]

finally i talked with people

[hoary zodiac]

but they make very bad memory

please do not buy cosair ram

[bitter dust]

i will

not

being

last time u said my pc gonna bomb

[hoary zodiac]

no

[bitter dust]

like is it gonna be good good

or

bad bad

[hoary zodiac]

I said the silverstone was a bomb

[bitter dust]

how's bomb

[hoary zodiac]

explosion

[bitter dust]

why

its good price

[hoary zodiac]

listen

that psu will fail and it will kill your pc parts

[bitter dust]

oh

[hoary zodiac]

please just don't change anything

we chose everything for a reason

they are the cheapest parts available that are not bad quality

please stick with the list

[bitter dust]

yes sir

SAMSUNG 990 EVO Plus SSD 2TB

139$

is it worthy?

[hoary zodiac]

wh

[bitter dust]

with mine

[hoary zodiac]

[bitter dust]

m just asking lol

[hoary zodiac]

I give up

[bitter dust]

i swear

sorry

i swear not changing anything

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder if it's worth getting a 5G modem card

for my laptop

https://www.amazon.com.au/Wireless-Interface-300Mbps-Downlink-Latitude/dp/B0D1854QYH

these cheap ones are fine right?

like not-scams

[bitter dust]

btw boeing

ordering in newegg is it safe ?

shipped and sale is newegg

[hoary zodiac]

I have never ordered with newegg

[bitter dust]

what really?

[hoary zodiac]

I don't live in the US

[bitter dust]

why

me

im saudi

but im afraid about safety orders

[solemn lintel]

anyone have a nice $1600-$1800 build??

[bitter dust]

mie

mine

edited by @hoary zodiac

[solemn lintel]

can I see

[hoary zodiac]

I will give you a new list

[bitter dust]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RQQkXR

[hoary zodiac]

what is the use case?

please do not use that list that is optimised for that specific person

[bitter dust]

yes

sorry

[solemn lintel]

gotcha

[hoary zodiac]

are you using it for gaming?

[solemn lintel]

I am

[hoary zodiac]

only?

[solemn lintel]

I mean and school

[hoary zodiac]

fair enough

[solemn lintel]

But I dont plan to stream or make music or anything

[hoary zodiac]

case preferences?

[solemn lintel]

Mid tower probably white

I think the all white look is clean

[hoary zodiac]

white?

that will make the parts list considerably more expensive

[solemn lintel]

how much do you think that would raise the total price

[hoary zodiac]

a couple hundred dollars

it's stupid I know

[solemn lintel]

jeez, yeah nevermind

black is perfectly fine

[hoary zodiac]

tell you what I'll make a list with black only and then white only

never know until you try

[solemn lintel]

I apperiacte that, do you think you could make it with a watewr cooler?

I really like the way they look

[hoary zodiac]

you sure?

[solemn lintel]

do you reccomend against it?

[hoary zodiac]

well

you wouldn't really need one for performance

but there are decent ones for cheap

[solemn lintel]

Yeah id be willing to pay some extra for one

[hoary zodiac]

a lot less than you think

$20 more than a peerless assassin

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WyYsXR

black list

note: the 7600x performs pretty much the same as the 7700x in games

[bitter dust]

but valorant, csgo

7600 is stronger

like i searched

its good

[hoary zodiac]

those games do prefer strong single threaded performance yes

[bitter dust]

last question

Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory vs G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory

which one

[hoary zodiac]

they are virtually the same

[bitter dust]

but who's the strongest

[hoary zodiac]

they are

the same

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PrNt8Q
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WyYsXR

[bitter dust]

1500

nice

[hoary zodiac]

@solemn lintel
Black list: $1359.80
White list: $1538.35

[bitter dust]

but i hate asrock

[hoary zodiac]

the white tax strikes again

[hoary zodiac]

this is not for you

[bitter dust]

oh

i understand now

[solemn lintel]

definitely going with the black, I still have 300-500 to add, what upgrades would you reccomend in the list you gave me?

[hoary zodiac]

wise choice

hold up lemme see if I could get you a better cpu

[solemn lintel]

you think id need a gpu upgrade as well or is the one you picked already overkill?

[hoary zodiac]

well

the 7900XT is pretty powerful only $660

the performance per dollar prospect would go WAY down if you go up to a RTX 4090

[mortal grail]

I have now received damning proof that chrome is garbage

[hoary zodiac]

imagine not using librewolf

[hoary zodiac]

so while there are better cards available, you'd be spending a lot more money for not much gain

the 7900XT is unbeatable in terms of value at the moment

[solemn lintel]

the one you picked is the move for sure

[mortal grail]

I'm happy enough as an edgelord, as you'll see in a second

[hoary zodiac]

felix

while you're here

[mortal grail]

Chrome left, edge right

[hoary zodiac]

7800X3D worth over 7600X for $200 more?

[mortal grail]

Look at this bloody bloat

[hoary zodiac]

wtf built on the same engine too

[mortal grail]

That's ALL CHROME

RIGHT?

[hoary zodiac]

why is microsoft chromium better than google chromium

[mortal grail]

THAT'S TELEMETRY BLOAT

[hoary zodiac]

[hoary zodiac]

you know what I'm not even surprised

anyways 7800X3D worth?

[mortal grail]

Cos google wants to know what pants ur wearing

This is repeatable btw

That's on my phone

Every device

I tried this one

Same result

Apple, linux, windows

SAME

[hoary zodiac]

we all know linux users don't use chrome

[mortal grail]

Chrome is garbage

[hoary zodiac]

we're all firefox shills here

[mortal grail]

Pretty impressive considering android is linux

[hoary zodiac]

x86 linux

[mortal grail]

This is just laughably bad bloat

[hoary zodiac]

felix

[mortal grail]

All that telemetry baked into chrome

I'm reeling

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sqCTJn
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WyYsXR

[mortal grail]

Idk I'm not filled in on the x3d thing

[hoary zodiac]

I think it's a case to case basis

depends on how cache hungry it is

that's why I'm kinda iffy

$200 more

it is an x3d tho

wait it's $300 more

[mortal grail]

Both lists look fine, change 7600X to 7500F, psu in both to A850GL

[hoary zodiac]

💀

7500F available in US?

[mortal grail]

On AliExpress

[hoary zodiac]

oh ok

[mortal grail]

There's 2 vetted sellers

[hoary zodiac]

do you have a link?

[mortal grail]

Look for sheer numbers sold

Not rn no

The biggest seller is one of them tho

"10000+ sold"

It's a 7600X with no igpu

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006861831275.html

this?

[mortal grail]

For like $50 less

[hoary zodiac]

damn clipboard

[solemn lintel]

youd go with a better cpu over ram or a mother board upgrade?

[mortal grail]

You also don't need a 360 aio for either

[hoary zodiac]

oh he just likes the looks

[mortal grail]

The motherboard is one of the best

[opaque sedge]

How much more is the 9800x3d?

[mortal grail]

Yes despite the price

[hoary zodiac]

A LOT MORE

[mortal grail]

It's one of the best

[hoary zodiac]

it's like $800 rn because of the scalpers

[hoary zodiac]

wait REALLY?

[solemn lintel]

is getting a pre built ever the answer or no

[mortal grail]

Ding ding (change to usa)

[opaque sedge]

Ffs would be hard getting one without a microcenter them

[hoary zodiac]

you can't get a prebuilt for this price for sure

[mortal grail]

These days laptops offer similar performance

[opaque sedge]

For a prebuilt u’ll be looking at a noticeable upcharge

[mortal grail]

HDV holds records for AM5

Specifically b650m

[hoary zodiac]

what the hell

Asrock on top

[mortal grail]

Well yeah you make a competent enough vrm with 1dpc it's gonna be good

That's a bit of a no brainer like itx

A620i lightning is another one

[opaque sedge]

Wish microcenter gave that mobo for the their 7600x bundle ngl

[hoary zodiac]

@solemn lintel do you really want the liquid cooler?

an air cooler is $20 cheaper

[mortal grail]

Would sell out 💀

[hoary zodiac]

up to you

[solemn lintel]

I do

[hoary zodiac]

an air cooler would be way more than sufficient in cooling

[opaque sedge]

Hold up lemme show u smth funny abt that bundle

[mortal grail]

None of the chips need a liquid cooler so it'll be big savings

[hoary zodiac]

an AIO would purely be for aesthetics

[solemn lintel]

im not too serious, I care about looks a lot

[opaque sedge]

Damn wth there are no more 7600x bundles

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VcJK3w

hold up gonna check if the aio is actually going to fit

should be fine?

[mortal grail]

You could fit a 240 on the side if it's significantly cheaper from thermalright

Same performance

[hoary zodiac]

like $10 cheaper

[mortal grail]

Same performance so

[solemn lintel]

How do you feel abt the new nzxt case

[hoary zodiac]

true

[mortal grail]

Nzxt has just been caught scamming kids

[hoary zodiac]

Another O11D knockoff

[opaque sedge]

@mortal grail look mobo upgrade but its the same damn chipset

[hoary zodiac]

costs too much to be worth it

[mortal grail]

I wouldn't touch nzxt with a ten ft pole rn

[hoary zodiac]

and also that

the new case is pretty meh in value

other cases are cheaper and are pretty much the same

[mortal grail]

All their stuff is meh rn

[hoary zodiac]

always have been

[mortal grail]

Not even their psus are worth rn

And the flack they got for scamming is deserved

[bitter dust]

Is nzxt h9 flow expensive? Because i have 360mm radiator with
Rx 7800xt 320mm

[mortal grail]

Yes

[hoary zodiac]

we just said...

💀

[mortal grail]

Terrible case overall

Along with nzxt's current rep

[bitter dust]

I need case

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LT69Nz

oh my god the cost shavings are insane

[opaque sedge]

the new monetch sky case with the front mounted intakes look neat

[mortal grail]

Try antec C8 if you want a lookalike

[hoary zodiac]

could probably put in an X3D tbh

[mortal grail]

Much better case

[hoary zodiac]

although it is $300 more

ughhh

[mortal grail]

I believe it's the C8

[hoary zodiac]

X3D not worth it right?

[mortal grail]

Yeah it's the C8

C8 also has a wood version

[hoary zodiac]

feels like the only X3D with significant perf improvement is the 9800X3D and that's like $800

[mortal grail]

You need to ask him the right questions lad

Asking me when neither of us has context means nothing lmao

[bitter dust]

I love fractal north design

[hoary zodiac]

true

[mortal grail]

North is good

I dig the north

[bitter dust]

God so amazing

[mortal grail]

Standard, not xl

[hoary zodiac]

@solemn lintel what games do you play?

[opaque sedge]

Unless its a bundle like this

[mortal grail]

There you go

[bitter dust]

I need xl for my gpu,cpu

[solemn lintel]

Rust, Cod, Val, Phas

[mortal grail]

You don't

No cpu+gpu needs xl

[hoary zodiac]

you don't need you want

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[mortal grail]

Big difference

[bitter dust]

Mine is 360mm

Rx 7800xt is 320 mm

[hoary zodiac]

you know what that is a terrific idea

[opaque sedge]

It doesn’t exist anymore 💀

[hoary zodiac]

why are they always bundled with crappy corsair aios

[opaque sedge]

Post 9000 series x3d market has been shafted

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4741694

there's this

pretty overpriced

[mortal grail]

Bought already?

[bitter dust]

No

[opaque sedge]

Pretty sure the montech xr can fit a 360 mm rad

[mortal grail]

Then you don't need XL

You can just choose different parts

What cpu is the aio going on

[bitter dust]

Also fractal shipphing is expensive 200$ for shipping

Great

[opaque sedge]

Ur prolly not gonna like this

[hoary zodiac]

7600x

[opaque sedge]

I’m out

I’m scared

[mortal grail]

Is this the same guy or what

Lol

[hoary zodiac]

ok to be fair the list is for the other guy

[mortal grail]

I was gonna say

[bitter dust]

Boeing 7700x using for what ofc is better than 7600

[hoary zodiac]

not video games

which is what you are using the pc for

[mortal grail]

You can use a dual tower, good 240mm or 280mm

[hoary zodiac]

felix do you wanna do the speech this time

[mortal grail]

You don't need a 360mm, at all

[bitter dust]

Gonna sleep rb

Rn

Its a beginner talking

[mortal grail]

Id cooling a620 se, thermalright any dual tower, phantom spirit etc, any thermalright 240mm

[opaque sedge]

Its probably for looks i think

[mortal grail]

Any of those are fine

[mortal grail]

If he wants a north it's not happening

[hoary zodiac]

yeah the 240mm performs the same

if you really want an aio

get the 240mm

it's $10 less

[bitter dust]

What about 360mm

[opaque sedge]

…

[mortal grail]

Means north won't fit lad

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/looks-into-the-camera-like-the-office-the-office-gif-21412318

[bitter dust]

forget north

[mortal grail]

Makes 0% performance improvement

And makes north incompatible

[hoary zodiac]

where did the other guy go

I miss the other guy

[mortal grail]

Well I'm soon to dip so

[hoary zodiac]

MICHAEL

DON'T LEAVE ME HERE

[opaque sedge]

Guys should we sent him to the forbidden land

Of pcmr

[bitter dust]

What about nzxt h9 flow fits 360mm and fit 320m my rx 7800xt

[hoary zodiac]

no don't he's gonna spend $3k on the same pc

[bitter dust]

Its dual

[bitter dust]

ITS 1.5k

[opaque sedge]

Surprisingly pcmr is in their performance to price phase rn

[hoary zodiac]

the hell?

[mortal grail]

Antec C8 is a better case, comes with better fans and quality, also doesn't have the bad nzxt reputation or quality

[hoary zodiac]

pcmr? value?

[opaque sedge]

The rtx 4060 really hit em hard

[mortal grail]

Also cheaper

[hoary zodiac]

this is rare

[bitter dust]

Thx

[opaque sedge]

And the 4060ti killed em basically

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7utAjzQDkWk

[opaque sedge]

Yeah they’re recommending air coolers

[hoary zodiac]

sus channel

$200 for like 20-40fps

depending on game

hmm

[mortal grail]

Pretty sure anyone showing off their build with nzxt rn will cop flack from randoms for supporting scammers

Even though they'd likely have no idea

[hoary zodiac]

20fps worth $300?

[mortal grail]

Stop asking me

You do the math and make a subjective take with your info

[opaque sedge]

Honestly i would rather use that money on the gpu

[mortal grail]

These types of channels are also sus

Use vetted reviewers

[hoary zodiac]

I used GN

[bitter dust]

Still 7700x is better with 300$

[hoary zodiac]

also mediocre

[bitter dust]

same price as 7600

[hoary zodiac]

I'm looking for more diverse benchmarks for specific games

[mortal grail]

HUB has an updated test if you need something else

[hoary zodiac]

but still in the "not worth it" test category

[hoary zodiac]

oh nice

[opaque sedge]

Why didn’t u say that part first… and also are u sure they’re the same price? Where are u buying the parts from?

[hoary zodiac]

^this would've saved me 2 hours

we are not paid guys

😭

[mortal grail]

https://youtu.be/5GIvrMWzr9k

https://youtu.be/TCOJ3iFCWcU

[hoary zodiac]

oh wow HWUB has more in depth fps info

[mortal grail]

https://youtu.be/EKb8syfv5cc

[opaque sedge]

Wbt 1440p?

[bitter dust]

Newegg 7700x is 300$

[opaque sedge]

… and the 7600

[bitter dust]

Lower I didn’t checked

But yea

[opaque sedge]

How tf is that the same price

[bitter dust]

Not to much

In my country

[mortal grail]

Tell me you didn't click without telling me you didn't click 💀💀

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu12QOQiUUI&t=114s

[opaque sedge]

I’m getting my butt kicked by a mob knight in ds3 rn

[hoary zodiac]

I'm gonna use this one instead

since it's got 7600x

[bitter dust]

its 260$

rx 7700 x is 300

[opaque sedge]

What is not too much give the chat a clear concise number

[mortal grail]

God I hate HUB

They do ok benchmarks, then they do this:
https://youtu.be/K3ZHzJ_bhaI

[opaque sedge]

Ok i died

I’m gonna watch the video now

[mortal grail]

"The solution: more ray tracing pls"

[hoary zodiac]

when not GN

[mortal grail]

Unlike GN I'm so divisive with HUB

They do a few things that are just stupid

[hoary zodiac]

kinda mid for $300 more

40fps

40-50fps on average

like

$300 is enough money to upgrade to a 10600X and a new motherboard or whatever it'll be called

[opaque sedge]

Pov u spent ur budget on the expensive lian li case and peripherals and still running that poor 1060

[hoary zodiac]

for this reason alone I'm going with the 7500F

[opaque sedge]

Legit speaking tho the lianli subreddit is full of people running stuff like 2060s and 2070s 💀

With the newly released lianli cases and aios

And fans

[hoary zodiac]

@solemn lintel
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LT69Nz
final list if others have no objections

most optimised for performace/$

[mortal grail]

He reached conclusion

[hoary zodiac]

with A LOT of leftover money you could use for a future upgrade

[storm narwhal]

And a 7900xt

[mortal grail]

Our little baby boeing is growing up

[hoary zodiac]

which will get you a lot more performance per dollar than getting anything more high end at the moment

[hoary zodiac]

I'm a psuedo techie

[mortal grail]

Don't forget to link the AliExpress article

Lmfao

[hoary zodiac]

it is linked

you have to click on the "ryzen 5 7500F" text

[mortal grail]

Oh you click

[storm narwhal]

They grow up so fast

[bitter dust]

Anyones here orderd from aliexpress?

[mortal grail]

Ooo I learnt a new trick on pcpeepee

The custom mans

[opaque sedge]

I didn’t see a single 1440p benchmark

[mortal grail]

Just, draw a line down the middle

[opaque sedge]

But ig i can infer its not a largely noticeable difference

[mortal grail]

Yup

[hoary zodiac]

benchmark d-

[opaque sedge]

…

[storm narwhal]

Stop

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-tears-cry-sad-dbz-gif-8527162

[mortal grail]

Ok I'm hopping off, tired af

[opaque sedge]

I cant make em anymore

[bitter dust]

Guys m worried about ships and sold in newegg
Buying a lot of things and i’m afraid that my products are fake or renewed

Thats it

[opaque sedge]

Then do amazon

And make sure the item is shipped and sold by amazon

Best case scenario

[hoary zodiac]

sore are you in an american timezone?

[opaque sedge]

Yeah

Et

[hoary zodiac]

you're the acting psuedo-techie now

aussies are getting sleepy

[bitter dust]

Graphics card and Amd ryzen not in amazon

[hoary zodiac]

have fun

[opaque sedge]

NOOO

[bitter dust]

Only new egg

[opaque sedge]

Huh interesting

[bitter dust]

And newegg

Its showing me sold shipped by newegg

Is it safe?

[opaque sedge]

I would make sure the item is shipped and sold by newegg then

[opaque sedge]

Yeah should be fine

[bitter dust]

All my items is from shipped and sold by newegg

What about warranty?

i think only 30 days

[opaque sedge]

Thats the return period

[hoary zodiac]

each part will have their individual warranties

[opaque sedge]

Past that if anything happens to ur components u will have to contact the individual manufacturers for an rma

[solemn lintel]

I still got 500 to spare, anything you think I should upgrade?

[bitter dust]

Yea only thats it in middle east theres no plan warrantie

[hoary zodiac]

well the thing is... the performance/$ falls off a cliff at this point

there really isn't much you can get for $500 that will improve performance significantly

[solemn lintel]

anything that would make it look better then?

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

do you want RGB?

[opaque sedge]

Ask him if he’s got his peripherals settled first

Like monitor good keeb and mouse

Headphones

Those can enhance the experience a lot as well

[hoary zodiac]

there is also the option of saving that $500 for a future platform or gpu upgrade

[solemn lintel]

is there really much more you could even do at this point

[hoary zodiac]

you can install rgb strips or rgb fans

although the case does come with rgb fans

[opaque sedge]

Do u alr have a monitor keyboard mouse and headphones?

[hoary zodiac]

honestly I'd use the pc for a bit first

then install any aesthetics upgrade

[opaque sedge]

I made the mistake of not properly budgeting for my peripherals

[hoary zodiac]

you'll have a better idea of what you want it to look when you have the pc

[opaque sedge]

I could have been gaming on an oled monitor rn

[solemn lintel]

My parnets are getting the pc and im getting evything else so that doesnt really have uhc of an effect on me

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

are you buying anything else tho

we could get you some pretty good quality stuff for cheap

[opaque sedge]

Why not consolidate the remaining budget from your parents into urs and get smth like an oled monitor or a good pair of headphones

[solemn lintel]

keyboard, mouse, and moniter with my money, but theyre covering the entire pc

[hoary zodiac]

perference for keyboard?

[solemn lintel]

I have a50s rn

[solemn lintel]

65% preferably

[hoary zodiac]

where's felix when you need him

[bitter dust]

Gonna rewatching the sopranos

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.amazon.com/Keychron-Swappable-Bluetooth-Mechanical-Rechargeable/dp/B0836FNNFX

where's the monitor people

yeah

conclusion: pc list is best optimised for performance/$

tbh you can't really get much more performance even if you spend that $500

7800X3D maybe? but that really isn't that much performance gain for nearly $500

you can upgrade to an entirely new platform in a couple years for $500 so

I really wouldn't get a 7800X3D

[bitter dust]

7900

[hoary zodiac]

that is not what we are talking about

7900X most likely performs worse than a 7800X3D

in gaming

[bitter dust]

x3d is better than whole intel sorry

S

[hoary zodiac]

debatable but generally yes

I'm going to sleep

gn fellas

[opaque sedge]

Dell g2724d or an 1440p oled 27inch around 500/600 most reliable brands should be under that range

[bitter dust]

Gn sorry for bother you

[hoary zodiac]

oh cool

I should probably get into monitors

[opaque sedge]

Typically most oled panels are the same but the build quality varies

[hoary zodiac]

I'm really not versed when it comes to monitors

[opaque sedge]

Me either

Oh wait

[hoary zodiac]

I think most of the monitor people are asleep

[opaque sedge]

There’s also that acer mini led everyone was raving abt couple days ago

[hoary zodiac]

Hmm

Ok sleeping fr this time

[solemn lintel]

7500F the move for sure?

[hoary zodiac]

unless...

[solemn lintel]

sorry last question then ill let you sleep

[hoary zodiac]

Well if you're only playing video games on it

[solemn lintel]

So like what wouldnt it be good at

[hoary zodiac]

Best performance increase within your budget is a 7800X3D

BUT

The cpu is nearly $500

[opaque sedge]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1784672-REG/acer_um_hxxaa_302_27_wqqhd144hz_va_monitor.html
Cracked deal

[hoary zodiac]

Not worth it if you ask me

[solemn lintel]

DAMN

[opaque sedge]

I would get this over an ips

[hoary zodiac]

For $500, you can save that money up and wait a couple years for a 10600X or a 11600X

And that would probably get you a lot more performance increase for probably less than $500

So at the moment the 7500F is the best choice

On the gpu side nothing really comes close

[opaque sedge]

Or these for ips

[hoary zodiac]

The $800 gpus are all kinda meh

[opaque sedge]

Msi has a couple too

[solemn lintel]

appreciate you brother

insanly helpful

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah we love making value lists

It's pretty insane how you can make a powerhouse pc for under 1.5K when you can find the right parts

[opaque sedge]

Yeah gpus picks for mid range are basically the 7800xt 7900gre(out of stock) 4070super(not worth cuz the 7900xt is super close to it in price) and 7900xt

[hoary zodiac]

Do you do any CAD?

Video editing?

3D rendering?

[solemn lintel]

A little actually

[hoary zodiac]

Do you do it often?

[solemn lintel]

when I get in my phases yes

[hoary zodiac]

Hmm

What software?

[solemn lintel]

Blender

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

Ehhh

I'd still go with the 7500F

6 cores can do a lot

And that's more of a side thing

Not worth the extra money

[solemn lintel]

true

[hoary zodiac]

Blender can run on a nokia so

Should be fine

Unless it's something like the infamous yandere sim toothbrush

[opaque sedge]

Oh btw i have the dell g2724d myself and i tried out 2 other 1440p ips monitors before returning them and a thing to note is its got really good text clarity

[solemn lintel]

Is there any need to buy an operating system, does anyone know?

[hoary zodiac]

yes and no

[solemn lintel]

Its been years since ive last built a pc, is that something I need to buy before hand

[hoary zodiac]

check dms

[bitter dust]

Antec c8 is it good case for 360mm
And gpu length 320mm?

Kinda like north

Imagine with noctua

Wow

[tranquil pebble]

Not USD, but looks funny

[tacit geode]

The new windows installer is garbage

Can't install to my drive.. I click next it just sits there doing nothing

I clicked next already

Oh it's just crazy slow.

It took almost 5 minutes

[frigid stag]

Windows install is like a lottery how it works

[wary fjord]

because its unallocated.

it will freeze a bit to do its job allocating it and turn it into usable drive

[tranquil pebble]

is it worth waiting for the 9800x3d to restock or should I just buy a 7800x3d?

doesn't look like the 9800x3d is much faster

[craggy shoal]

they're both the two best CPUs for gaming. It's up to you

[tranquil pebble]

ofc maybe 9950x3d will come and be a balance of workstation and gaming capabilities

8 cores is barely enough sometimes

[craggy shoal]

that's what I would think lol

[tacit geode]

The old ssetup did it instantly

[craggy shoal]

Who wants to waste a whole Saturday going to a play at a megachurch and getting Christmas photos a few hours after? I sure don't

Man I love my mom

Wasting my time. I love it

[unreal trail]

https://tenor.com/view/go-to-church-yassir-lester-the-great-debate-religion-pray-gif-17630872

[craggy shoal]

I mean I hate to get controversial. I'll be open and say that I'm religious. But it's a mega church. As a Christian believer (and someone who doesn't know which branch of Christianity to believe in), I dislike mega churches. They enjoy taking your money

This is the type of church that they'll make a play and go "you have to pay to get in." These are the type of churches I don't like

so instead I'm going to meet my friend at Micro Center 💀

Sorry guys I hate to break any rules

(mods just delete these messages if it breaks rules too much)

[sinful blade]

As someone who doesn’t believe in religions, mega churches are massive tax evasion and financial fraud schemes and they should be taxed and audited.

[dusk knot]

Correct.

Discussion closed 🔐

[craggy shoal]

Understandable 👍

[unreal trail]

[wary fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3ZHzJ_bhaI

[craggy shoal]

yes good change of subjects

thank you lol

[wary fjord]

the problem is his playing at 300% zoom

who does that

xD

all what u see in screen are already to trick ur eyes xD dont zoom in u gonna see imperfections haha

[craggy shoal]

yeah because testing is the issue 💀

[dusk knot]

The man has to make content for that paycheck

[wary fjord]

https://blog.google/technology/research/google-willow-quantum-chip/ @dusk knot ur next gaming cpu

[dusk knot]

I’m not a billionaire

[wary fjord]

u will soon ull get esekied as billionare

[dusk knot]

As of now, China has the lead with the fastest quantum computer chip at around 500 qubits. When it reaches 1000, it is going to get real according to some researchers.

They will be able to decrypt almost anything

No security will be safe

[dusk knot]

Lmao

What are yous saying

[velvet summit]

that's what they all say

[dusk knot]

[wary fjord]

dint we reach that already

https://www.livescience.com/technology/computing/monster-4-400-qubit-quantum-processor-is-25-000-times-faster-than-its-predecessor

we at 4k now

[dusk knot]

The heck

I don't believe this

[wary fjord]

gotta go fast

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-fan-eating-popcorn-but-its-cool-epicducc-nice-awesome-lolzers-pls-die-gif-9589946570059071065

more fam friendly gif

[dusk knot]

Fake news, tomie

[wary fjord]

haha it is?

xD

[dusk knot]

I watch my news

[wary fjord]

it seems they all talk about it

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

[wary fjord]

i just googled "4,400 qbits"

xD

and its all about them

[dusk knot]

Such a computer doesn't exist yet

[wary fjord]

check dm @dusk knot

[dusk knot]

I have seen it

Cool stuff

I must leave this planet and find another

[rancid juniper]

https://wccftech.com/qualcomm-is-now-rumored-to-be-testing-out-snapdragon-x-elite-2-desktop-cpus-setting-its-sight-towards-the-pc-market/

hope its true

finally

[dusk knot]

No way

[dusk knot]

I thought it was another mobile chip

So there's going to be Snapdragon motherboards?

Neat

[rancid juniper]

hope so

it better not be socketed in lol

[dusk knot]

They wouldn't

[rancid juniper]

i wonder if its possible to upgrade arm chips

will it have pins or have similar features to LGA

im thinking the latter

[plain stone]

LETS GOOOO HAHAH

it's been a while since we'vedone this

my best friend, gf, little brother

[icy ore]

Nice

Bet it’s hot as hell in there

[tranquil pebble]

I just realized if I get a 9800x3d I will have used every Ryzen arch except Zen and Zen+

[dusk knot]

My same thought lol

Turn that AC all the way up!

[unreal trail]

dead chat

[dusk knot]

Yes yes

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/araZUoSOPmM?si=pGNme2VyFN6i_V5M

Path tracing. Hhuhuhuhuhu 🤤

[sour falcon]

What’s this I heard about an unreleased nvidia card being used to showcase a game

[dusk knot]

Ah yes

Supposedly the trailer for The Witcher 4 was pre-rendered on an undisclosed GPU with most people believing it to be the 5090.

Honestly that's kind of stupid because that's not gameplay....it's just a trailer

NVIDIA will spill the beans next month

[wary fjord]

like i said its irrelevant xD

if its just rendered

any rt gpu can do it.. probably the only difference is the time

[dusk knot]

Exactly..any GPU can render the scene, just at different times

[wary fjord]

yeah

u better save 3.5 grand atleast jp

[dusk knot]

Nvidia thinks we're dumb

😤

[dusk knot]

Maybe.....2700

I want those sweet graphics, tomie

I need it now.

[wary fjord]

2700 after scalper calm down

u cant win xD

u have to wait

[dusk knot]

I have microcenter now

I will wait

Truly a blessing

Also do you have any good flac files to share? trying out my brother's Sennheiser momentum 4s. just ordered my own. @wary fjord

Spotify is holding it back.

Nvm

[wary fjord]

u need to ask @pliant berry for that

xD

i cheap out on audio mp3 is fine for me

[dusk knot]

What about 1440p?

[wary fjord]

ultra settings?

wow

not bad

[dusk knot]

That's become the setting now

[rancid juniper]

definitely can trade blows

[rancid juniper]

Testing Games haven't tried that resolution

[wary fjord]

lol alanwake score has same fps as me xD

that game is hard to run

ngl

[rancid juniper]

it is lol

[dusk knot]

The 4060 is barely winning.

Nice

[safe cape]

yeah

[dusk knot]

Seems like we have a software limitation here

for example Indiana Jones and the Great circle

Oh wait nvm

It has ray tracing

For global illumination

You can't beat Nvidia on that

[wary fjord]

yeah

[dusk knot]

Nvidia has a 90 percent market share in the GPU industry.... Jesus

[pliant berry]

i think you ping the wrong person lol

@dusk knot

[dusk knot]

Thanks

Sounds amazing

[pliant berry]

some tracks from league are also nice

[dusk knot]

Spotify needs a high res audio subscription

[pliant berry]

people have talked about news regarding spotify possibly creating a hifi sub for years but they never did

[dusk knot]

Yeah

They should

@pliant berry what's the best place to get flac files?

[deep parcel]

there are some places... ill send you a couple

[rancid juniper]

FreeFlappyFlac.com

[pliant berry]

uhh

[dusk knot]

Jake to the rescue. Ok

[pliant berry]

you can rip them from cds if you have. some sites sell them as well like qobuz, bandcamp, etc

[dusk knot]

Ah

I'll look it up. Thanks

[sinful blade]

So like pandora’s basic tier?

[dusk knot]

How's Pandora even doing nowadays? Loll

[sinful blade]

Pretty good

They don’t do wraps anymore
But other than that, still feels better than apple and Spotify

[dusk knot]

Hm

[sinful blade]

How much would you pay for a 2060 FE?

[pliant berry]

2usd

[sinful blade]

Guy is offering one for $140.

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce-rtx-5070-ti-reportedly-features-16gb-gddr7-memory-and-gb203-300-gpu

ok, thats not bad

keep it up

iirc 4070ti was 12gb right?

hopefully base 5070 is also 16gb?

[deep parcel]

nvidia is slowly learning

for being so smart they are also dumb

[rancid juniper]

lmao

[deep parcel]

hopefully the pressure from intel in the budget space breaks nvidia

vram for everyone

[rancid juniper]

big hopes for that, these modern games are getting greedy

[dusk knot]

5080 20gb

[wary fjord]

16gb again

[rancid juniper]

gotta cross your finger that the rumor is false

[wary fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amKgVeMUDjE

ai is the future....

[rancid juniper]

atleast its a step up from its predecessor

[dusk knot]

Ai gf

[wary fjord]

it can generate any image to a game

[dusk knot]

Jk

[wary fjord]

u can interact on it

[dusk knot]

Yuck. 16 won’t do

[rancid juniper]

the only ai implementation i'd allow for games is dialogue (with proper oversight from the devs) and upscalers

nothing else

[wary fjord]

omg it can rotate images too

[rancid juniper]

thats what im thinkin

[tacit geode]

i need to play that

[rancid juniper]

They recently had an update (2.2)

[tacit geode]

yeah

ive beat the game

i'd make a new save anyways

[rancid juniper]

i have yet to complete my second playthrough but they added alot of stuff for the beginning acts

makes it a completely new experience

[proud jackal]

Where 5090 leaks at

[rancid juniper]

in jensen's closet

[wraith fern]

well i broke windows

dont click end process on file explorer

💀

[tacit geode]

i already did

you cant stop me

[deep parcel]

oven*

[tacit geode]

pants*

[rancid juniper]

garage

[deep parcel]

🤨

[tacit geode]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-anya-forger-anya-spy-x-family-anime-anya-spy-x-family-spy-x-family-gif-15134444283686897673

[rancid juniper]

it didn't reset?

[rancid juniper]

jensen BALL

[tacit geode]

i remember theo ball

[deep parcel]

lol I have that and a few others too but they are forbidden

[wraith fern]

no lol

💀

idk why

[rancid juniper]

XD

[wraith fern]

it should have

but anyways one windows reset and im fine

moral of the story dont try and delete 400k images

[rancid juniper]

wait wtf, why do you have that many images in your OS?

[tacit geode]

bad boy

[rancid juniper]

[wraith fern]

im downloading a ton of terrain maps

[tacit geode]

no swearing

[rancid juniper]

oh

[wraith fern]

for a game

[tacit geode]

/me smacks @wraith fern bad

[wraith fern]

??

[tacit geode]

damn it failed

game?>

[wraith fern]

xplane 12

[tacit geode]

mincecraft?

[wraith fern]

nah

[tacit geode]

oh yeah

[wraith fern]

xplane is a money sink let me tell you

[tacit geode]

theres other issues if your os got screwed by that

[wraith fern]

ive dumped too much into that game

[tacit geode]

you may need to look into it more

[wraith fern]

im fine

my pc is fine

@rancid juniper its all in my recycling bin 💀

[worn wave]

Nvidia doesn't care about competition in the lowend. I do hope AMD dukes it out with Intel tho

[wraith fern]

i think its actually mostly empty files

[rancid juniper]

nah nah, compress it, open it, then delete

this is the proper way

[wraith fern]

it keeps growing

??? its a 330k???

[worn wave]

Nvidia knows they can release the dookiest xx50 and xx60 and (average) people (who you typically don't see in a server like this) will eat them up

[wraith fern]

its a bunch of tiny files

lol

[deep parcel]

thats true... I hope AMD has a huge comeback in the low end. Last gen budget AMD (7000 series) was kinda eh

[worn wave]

Yeah 6600/6650xt stock at good prices dried up pretty quick

And then 7600 is ehh and 7600xt is meh

[deep parcel]

yup unfortunately

[worn wave]

I really, really hope that the good reception of the b580 will push AMD to release some solid budget cards

[tranquil pebble]

low IOPS drives?

[wraith fern]

i dont even know

i was downloading some terrain maps

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tranquil pebble]

pc gaming was better when it wasnt so mainstream that this stuff can happen

[wraith fern]

techtoker getting 3050 reference

'techtoker'

😂

[dusk knot]

[tranquil pebble]

There is a needle/sharps disposal in the restroom of a convenience store I was in earlier. Never seen that in a public restroom before

nor am I sure how to feel about that

[mortal grail]

Those are sometimes in places instead of uh...

Towelette bins lol

[sweet phoenix]

Typically for either tampons/pads or people who use insulin

[tranquil pebble]

Insulin use must be

[wraith fern]

must be a lot of diabetics in san francisco

[tranquil pebble]

Im not in SF lol

[wraith fern]

well the joke is

eh nevermind

[tranquil pebble]

drug abuse?

[wraith fern]

no

lebron james

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-dunk-explosive-lakers-lakerswin-gif-16401450

[tranquil pebble]

Windows would off itself if you tried to leave it on for that long

[frosty sinew]

give me 113 more days and ill have 100% uptime

better than data centers

im better

[pliant berry]

might want to update once in a while though

[frosty sinew]

naaaaaaah

[tranquil pebble]

This very much is a "just because you can doesn't mean you should" moment

[frosty sinew]

nuh uh

[tacit geode]

mine would be that if we didnt have a power outage that lasted 8hrs

lol

[frosty sinew]

my ups miiiiiight do 6

not 8

lol

[tacit geode]

mine does 15 minutes

enough to clean shutdown

[frosty sinew]

i bought 600wh of batteries for it

lol

[tacit geode]

i didnt bother. i went with a 50$ apc one

[pliant berry]

speaking of which for some reason i am getting a lot more ram usage for cache recently. not sure if that's just from my usage or the update i did recently

[frosty sinew]

talking about updating lmao

all the bugs are fixed a year later

[frosty sinew]

mines an old apc one that i hacked to lower the float voltage

[pliant berry]

well ye i don't do experimential updates

[dusk knot]

Hm

[tranquil pebble]

cache is what most of the ram should be used for anyways, when it can be

[sage sluice]

Nahhh corsair ram being sold half price, this had to be DOA lmaoo

[tacit geode]

who pinged

O_O

[frosty sinew]

im selling my brand new rma corsair ram lol

[tranquil pebble]

corsair ram is garbo thats why

[proud jackal]

micron

[frosty sinew]

yes

[hoary zodiac]

they're probably all DOA

[tranquil pebble]

Dead or Alive? /j

[dusk knot]

Dead franchise

Jk

[slate fractal]

whats doa

[tranquil pebble]

dead on arrival

[pliant berry]

dead outa apples

[sinful blade]

Deep opace aine

[wraith fern]

sine wave

[proud jackal]

SIN

[wraith fern]

hi theo

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-devil-snl-gif-5778790687654576496

[wraith fern]

graph

[bitter dust]

Is it good ram?

[tranquil pebble]

no, it is Corsair Vengeance, which is known to be of questionable quality

[bitter dust]

Mine is G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory

Is it good?

[hoary zodiac]

didn't you ask this exact question like 5 times yesterday?

[bitter dust]

No just twice

and good morning boeing

[hoary zodiac]

🗿

[bitter dust]

Ur pfp looks like tony soprano

[solemn lintel]

anyone know if this is a good price?

https://www.microcenter.com/product/681803/amd-radeon-rx-7900-xt-triple-fan-20gb-gddr6-pcie-40-graphics-card

[hoary zodiac]

what's the price?

nvm

it just loaded

my browser was being funky

errrr

no

[solemn lintel]

why are the prices so different?

[hoary zodiac]

probably different sellers?

sapphire is always solid

[tacit geode]

no

[hoary zodiac]

that sapphire is also way cheaper than anything listed on pcpp

[tacit geode]

microcenter isnt a site that does the sellerthing afaik

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

[solemn lintel]

what does that mean

[tacit geode]

what

the afaik?

[hoary zodiac]

wait

[solemn lintel]

^

[hoary zodiac]

it's a stock model as well

why does the stock model cost more than the sapphire

[tacit geode]

as far as i know and microcenter only generally sells gpus in store

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

[tacit geode]

doesnt make sense

[solemn lintel]

is XFX any good?

[hoary zodiac]

available for in-store pickup

[tacit geode]

they both are

[hoary zodiac]

is it cheaper?

[tacit geode]

xfx is fine

[solemn lintel]

it is