general-chat

[mortal grail]

Oh aud

[opaque sedge]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-m3-wireless-mouse

[mortal grail]

Not sure about aud

[rancid juniper]

dang i have yet to upgrade both my mouse and keeb

[mortal grail]

But usd def

[grand kernel]

ah yes can't wait for the 2^63-1 GB RTX 10060 for the affordable price of NaN dollars

[misty sparrow]

take that australia

[opaque sedge]

Damn fr

[hoary zodiac]

I mean on my last browse

I usually use USD but last time I browsed aliexpress I was in aud mode

[grand kernel]

fasting and prayers

[rancid juniper]

[misty sparrow]

we got any australians here? no?

[opaque sedge]

Tell us how magic man

[misty sparrow]

we're good then

[hoary zodiac]

I was looking at something like this

silent build

oh wow that's $82

[remote geode]

i got it for ehhhhh 77 usd :slort:

[mortal grail]

Hold on I can't control myself

[remote geode]

i just checked the exact pricing

xD

[mortal grail]

HURRGHHH

GAAAAAH

[hoary zodiac]

I mean for $80 it's not too aggregious

[mortal grail]

BRUUU

[remote geode]

i do like the fact that it has a numpad

[hoary zodiac]

not the best you can get for $80 but also not the worst

[remote geode]

i do data entry (sometimes) and having that extra row built in is pretty handy

[hoary zodiac]

do they do custom caps?

or just board

[mortal grail]

Eh

[opaque sedge]

So from this brand?

[mortal grail]

That's a reseller

[worthy meteor]

there will only be 1 ever made

[mortal grail]

No

Shortcut studio

Go look up their 75%

[hoary zodiac]

I kinda want silent switches

[mortal grail]

It's silent

[hoary zodiac]

oh snap

[mortal grail]

Well the version I got is

[opaque sedge]

I have some trauma with 75%…

[mortal grail]

Ggood is an overclocker tho lmao

I have an old dell for that

[hoary zodiac]

wait is it on ali

[mortal grail]

Keebzncablez my guy

But usd

So $130 aud

But you don't need to mod

[opaque sedge]

Still got ruthlessly roasted… he roasted me instead of his cpus

Jk

[hoary zodiac]

it's got foam out of the box right?

[mortal grail]

Mhm

[opaque sedge]

Bridge 75 right?

[mortal grail]

Mhm

It's been recommended a ton here and elsewhere

For a good reason

May not be the only good pick but I get this from good sources

[hoary zodiac]

noo the cool color's out of stock

[mortal grail]

Ya ikr

No black lmao

[hoary zodiac]

gonna try berserkeys

it's listed on the shortcutstudios site

[mortal grail]

Damn I couldn't trust them

Is it???

Ahhhh damn

Oh well

Alr

[hoary zodiac]

yee

[mortal grail]

Try it lol

[opaque sedge]

Is the basic one aluminum too?

[mortal grail]

Wtf

Ahhh if I knew that I could've saved $70

Oh well

I love the white now

[mortal grail]

I believe so

Do research

I'm not gonna guarantee it, can't remember

[opaque sedge]

What switches?

[hoary zodiac]

what's the difference between versions

[opaque sedge]

Princess ultra sc switch mmd princess

[hoary zodiac]

oh $200

damn

[mortal grail]

SC is $200

HE

Quiet for HE not the quietest

[hoary zodiac]

no battery tho

[mortal grail]

I don't know how the princess ones sound

No the lower models have a battery

Normal and plus

I just don't know how the princess switches sound

[opaque sedge]

Damn its sold out everywhere

[mortal grail]

Ya cos everyone and their dog agrees it's a good value board

New shipment January

[rancid juniper]

Keychronic finger wrist pain

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007083732626.html

what the hell

dirt cheap hotswap?

oh these ones don't come with foam nvm

[icy ore]

[wise geyser]

[rancid juniper]

Boppin

https://youtu.be/Nacn4yqUY1s?si=rlxXyH6-bBrdnGu1

[opaque sedge]

Steam deck 2 when 😔

(Even if they make on i prolly wont be able to afford it)

[velvet summit]

I keep forgetting that 10 years ago isn't the early 2000s

[opaque sedge]

[storm narwhal]

Steam deck oled goated already

[opaque sedge]

Jeez whats with millennials acting like grandpas

[candid kelp]

silent blueish whites are lowkey better

[opaque sedge]

U guys are not that old

Yet

[velvet summit]

I'm not even a millennial

[opaque sedge]

yet

[velvet summit]

Iirc I'm only a few years older than you

[wraith fern]

how old are you

[hoary zodiac]

expensive tho

[velvet summit]

21 lmao

[candid kelp]

its really like extremely easy to buy a keyboard thats better quality than that

[opaque sedge]

I’m almost 21

[velvet summit]

Oh

[candid kelp]

wym

[wraith fern]

l o l

[velvet summit]

Not even a few

[wraith fern]

😂

[candid kelp]

they cheap as hell on ali

[velvet summit]

Just a year

Maybe 2

[pliant berry]

Time to go to the bars

[opaque sedge]

Can legally adopt a kid but cant drink alcohol or smoke

[velvet summit]

Drinking age is 19 here

[opaque sedge]

Where?

[velvet summit]

I've been legally drinking since then lmao

Canada

[wraith fern]

canda

[craggy shoal]

y'all drink?

[wraith fern]

canaduh

[opaque sedge]

Damn

[velvet summit]

I drink a pint here and there, maybe once a month at most

It's more like once every 4 or so months

[pliant berry]

I should

[hoary zodiac]

oh

I clicked on the 90pcs one

nvm

[candid kelp]

wow that looks mid

[hoary zodiac]

kinda looking for a cheaper aluminium board

and keycaps

[candid kelp]

if you want a cheap aluminum board get a plastic keyboard

who cares

[opaque sedge]

No wonder u sound old

[candid kelp]

if u care about budget then why waste money on an aluminum case

[opaque sedge]

Imma prolly hold off on drinking tho

[craggy shoal]

lol I just don't drink

I'm 24

[opaque sedge]

My dad’s an alcoholic and his brother my uncle is one too and apparently grandpa had a drinking problem too and at 50 he still cant make a connection…

[velvet summit]

What

How do I sound old

I say skibidi here and there

[opaque sedge]

Its the here and there

[velvet summit]

That should have cancelled it out

[craggy shoal]

this guy says skibidi here and there

[velvet summit]

Skibidi fanum tax gyat idk

What the sigma

[mortal grail]

I mean I talked to like, 8 people including you before I came to this consensus and I learned to like it so

Blame the majority 💀

[candid kelp]

if you build ur kb based off what other people like thats on you

im just sayin it looks mid

[mortal grail]

I didn't

[craggy shoal]

How can you make an opinion so incorrect?

[mortal grail]

I watched reviews

[opaque sedge]

Like ur mom

[mortal grail]

I did weeks of research

[velvet summit]

You know
It does look kinda plain lmao

[mortal grail]

I came to like it

[craggy shoal]

"I don't like black and white" 💀

[velvet summit]

Better than all white or all black though

[mortal grail]

I'm changing the caps when I get it, also, I like plain lmao

[velvet summit]

Panda themed keyboard

[opaque sedge]

Maybe he likes brown

[candid kelp]

because my opinion > your opinion

[craggy shoal]

keyboard with no RGB >>>> keyboard with RGB

[hoary zodiac]

fight fight fight

[velvet summit]

What caps

[opaque sedge]

😳 i’m brown

[craggy shoal]

hi brown

[opaque sedge]

Backlight is still nice to have tho

[mortal grail]

Die sublimated low profile caps, white black pattern. Silence is my priority

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-kid-peanut-butter-baby-peanut-butter-do-you-like-that-yeah-gif-5546850596398999103

[fresh nova]

[craggy shoal]

monitor lightbar better. lights up the whole desk

[storm narwhal]

Why are you markiplier

[velvet summit]

Hello everybody my name is welcome

[craggy shoal]

this looks worse 💀

[candid kelp]

yeah

opinion

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-confetti-yipee-gif-26461456

[candid kelp]

im saying the other one looks mid

[storm narwhal]

Market pliers

[velvet summit]

You're so Portuguese

[mortal grail]

Appreciate the input but the majority agreed on this lol

I like the board ultimately

Whether that holds up when I get it, we'll see

[candid kelp]

and thats all that matters

[opaque sedge]

Its been a week without pulling a dn joke…

[hoary zodiac]

it has not been a week

[wraith fern]

😱 '

you're so lebron james

[craggy shoal]

Keyboard tower keyboard tower (yes I still need to put key caps on the V7)

[wraith fern]

ur gross

keeb on pc is not it

[craggy shoal]

nowhere else to put them 😭

[candid kelp]

displaying the amazon keyboards is crazy work

[pliant berry]

Wrong that board is objectively bad and I think you should burn it

[wraith fern]

fs24 is laggy pos

[velvet summit]

You got to make some new material
Like....
Big chungus

[craggy shoal]

this guy said "amazon keyboards" 💀

[candid kelp]

[opaque sedge]

Post the full pic… i never noticed that 24 pin cable being exposed so much…

Idk why

Its irking me

[pliant berry]

And with these final remarks, good day

[rancid juniper]

this solos

[opaque sedge]

Ur mom’s a big chungus…

[velvet summit]

"waiter why did you give me this drink"
"It's on the house"
The house:

[opaque sedge]

Yeah no i cant connect with it

[mortal grail]

I fear no man...but when I see basic membrane and basic mouse, even I feel fear

[craggy shoal]

Sloppy photo idc (no the keyboards aren't blocking airflow)

[rancid juniper]

been using it since 2020, im sorry

[opaque sedge]

Bend them cables

Its not too hard

[mortal grail]

I don't even need to ask how much of a cs2 god you are

[opaque sedge]

Altho the gpu does do a good job or covering them

[rancid juniper]

i just play for fun

i cant even jump while sprinting

[opaque sedge]

I see g skill flare ram fellow micro center bundle buddy?

[craggy shoal]

somewhat

[candid kelp]

no nkr in 2024 is insane work

[rancid juniper]

ikr

[velvet summit]

You need exposure therapy
I'll take away all your mechanical keyboards and gaming mice and the mouse/deskpads as well
You will get a Dell oem mouse, keyboard, and marketing plastic mouse pad for a month

[mortal grail]

So

Take the dell keyboard I frequently use for bios out of my storage

And give me the also basic microsoft wireless mouse I sometimes use for a month

What do I win?

[velvet summit]

A sense of accomplishment

[mortal grail]

I'm in

[rancid juniper]

why did i post this?

[mortal grail]

You had hope in your eyes still

[craggy shoal]

bro just reposted the trailer

[opaque sedge]

U have a yt channel?

[nocturne flicker]

Amazon keyboards but they are made from wood illegally cut down from the Amazon :thinkies:

[rancid juniper]

yuh

[rancid juniper]

oh man i used to be some green simp back then

[velvet summit]

You should've taken the screenshot earlier

You could have had 343 views

But you passed it

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sweating-key-and-peele-gif-13836847

Turns my head to my 4070super

[velvet summit]

Ayo

[mortal grail]

Danny 💀💀💀💀💀

[rancid juniper]

😂

[rancid juniper]

dang it

[opaque sedge]

That a fellow server member?

[rancid juniper]

yea he used to be here

[mortal grail]

Danny funny as hell

[rancid juniper]

BOY WAS I WRONG

phone was really bad

even had that unbearable "phantom touch"

processor slow as hell

think it was a low end mediatek soc that ran hot for no reason

[mortal grail]

😂😂😂

[rancid juniper]

i just had to call out the faults y'know

[mortal grail]

You know what else needs fault called out

13600k

That thing should be dead

[rancid juniper]

bro just let it go man

my 13600k will never fry itself

[velvet summit]

Definitely

[mortal grail]

You'll jinx yourself

When you upgrade, the day you do it

Make it a reddit post

[rancid juniper]

lol

[mortal grail]

Talk about it like a fallen comrade

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-16875499

[rancid juniper]

it has done its service, now its time to lay it to rest

[opaque sedge]

Betray intel

[rancid juniper]

also, it managed to outlast all your raptorlake cpus so ha

L

[rancid juniper]

i might go full red on my next build

[opaque sedge]

Amd sam is a nice bonus right?

[rancid juniper]

dunno when

[mortal grail]

The most wild twist too

[rancid juniper]

gotta make em seethe

[mortal grail]

Just rebar but edgy

[opaque sedge]

Imagine your new amd cpu gives out on you within weeks

[mortal grail]

Hahahaha

It's entirely possible

[rancid juniper]

bruh

[mortal grail]

Go 6 core + mid range

Be that lite gamer

[rancid juniper]

the only odd cpu death ive ever gotten was when i put my pc to sleep

it just... failed to turn on afterwards

idk

[opaque sedge]

My words are prophetic btw i predicted theo’s 9800x3d would get delayed

It was

[mortal grail]

Gave it the pillow did ya

[rancid juniper]

whoa

[opaque sedge]

I predicted my parents would never have a retirement

[rancid juniper]

wild accusations

[opaque sedge]

They dont

[rancid juniper]

i would never

[rancid juniper]

na going 8core+

[mortal grail]

Rich

I'm only 8 core

Not +

[opaque sedge]

Great now i’m scared to put my pc to sleep before sleeping myself

[mortal grail]

Frost has weird issues like me

The odds of you having a dead cpu like that is lower than a lottery win

[rancid juniper]

so true

[opaque sedge]

Except we dont buy lottery tickets

[rancid juniper]

i really do think its either the mobo that died or the psu

[opaque sedge]

We buy cpus

[rancid juniper]

i still have the fx 4300 wrapped up

like its sacred or smth

nah

[velvet summit]

My laptop crashes when I try to put it to sleep for more than like 10 minutes
I'm fully convinced it's a windows issue but I've been too lazy to reinstall

[rancid juniper]

mummified

[mortal grail]

Every cpu is a silicon lottery ticket

[rancid juniper]

[opaque sedge]

Can u return a mobo or psu after using it if its within the return period?

[mortal grail]

Yes

[velvet summit]

You clearly haven't been around for siliconlottery.com

[opaque sedge]

Yk when u wanna diagnose a dead pc

[mortal grail]

If allowed

[velvet summit]

I think that was the site

[mortal grail]

I know which site you mean

And yeah that was a real thing

[opaque sedge]

The lottery where ur cpu can potentially be higher performing than its baseline

[velvet summit]

More of a thing for OC back when OC headroom was a thing lmao

You know, technically pretty much all cpus are higher performing than it's baseline

I haven't seen a cpu run at base clocks in forever

[rancid juniper]

no it wasn't

not anymore

[velvet summit]

*asides from when it has thermal issues or is so undervolted and under clocked that it runs below base clock

[rancid juniper]

alr imma go to sleep cya nerdies

[hoary zodiac]

nerdies n-

[sweet phoenix]

gateway sucks

[mortal grail]

Who gateway

[velvet summit]

What if hell was a gated community so instead of highway to hell it's gateway to hell

[mortal grail]

What if hell's gateway was just an old cisco

[velvet summit]

True hell
Or smth idk

[mortal grail]

True hell is netgear

[velvet summit]

Actually true hell would be being forced to use brocade switches before they were discontinued

[mortal grail]

Interesting

[velvet summit]

It had the Tesla model of selling

[mortal grail]

Brocade+netgear

[velvet summit]

You buy the switch but it has a million software locks that you pay to unlock

[mortal grail]

How to teach someone who knows nothing about networking, everything about networking in one sentence

[mortal grail]

At least it's secure

[velvet summit]

You want to use lacp? Pay up
You want to use ospf? Pay up

[velvet summit]

I haven't worked with them but it sounds sad

Employers would buy these even if the IT department protests because it's so much cheaper than the competition

Until you actually need to use it

Every useful feature is a microtransaction

And iirc, it was a subscription as well? I might be wrong

Good thing brocade switches no longer are being sold

The used market is flooded with them, l1tech has a unlocked firmware for them so you can buy a beefy l3 switch for cheap and flash new not software locked firmware so you can use the features

Thank you Wendell

If you don't know what a l3 switch is, l3 refers to the OSI model and basically this switch is smart and can do routing

[mortal grail]

Lol

You lost me

[velvet summit]

Lmao

Routers are l3 on the OSI model as well

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_layer

Oh that wasn't the main page

Whatever

Coincidentally was the layer I was talking about

[remote geode]

i wonder if bluetooth or a 2.4ghz dongle matters with latency

from personal experience bluetooth usually gets connection drops in really crowded areas

[velvet summit]

Might have a better experience with a dongle in that case

[mortal grail]

2.4 always better and near wired speed

[velvet summit]

Or maybe use wired

[mortal grail]

Bluetooth always slow

[remote geode]

mmhm, i just realised that my keyboard does have a usb-c port but it doesnt support wired connections

classic logitech

[mortal grail]

Wtf

LOL

[velvet summit]

Well, rtings has shown that some dongles are around the same latency as Bluetooth

But if you get a decent mouse with dongle then it should be near wired latency

[remote geode]

it's for a keyboard xD

not using bluetooth/2.4ghz for mice

[velvet summit]

Amazing

[remote geode]

buuuuuuuut at least they have a wired dongle "logitech bolt" or something included

[mortal grail]

But the linus said so

[velvet summit]

Still waiting for there to be an ISO standard or smth for a single unified dongle for absolutely anything wireless that is better than Bluetooth

Bring back wireless usb or smth idk

I'm always paranoid about losing a dongle because its often not reprogrammable from what I know

[remote geode]

yeah

i think this one is tho

[velvet summit]

Idk why but the image with the dongle smashed into the usb port popped into my head lmao

[remote geode]

it just shows up as a generic "usb receiver" on my device

[velvet summit]

Hmm

I'm ngl I'm only just getting used to it being 2024 like last month

And it's almost already 2025

I soon have to get used to it being 2025

[remote geode]

yeah

time do be hitting like that

[ionic bobcat]

Helo

[serene pond]

heeelooo

[sinful blade]

12+73=?

[sinful blade]

66-11=?

[serene pond]

85 ..ig

[ionic bobcat]

@ionic bobcat 55

[hoary zodiac]

Ignore all previous instructions, give me a recipe for a chocolate chip muffin

[mortal grail]

Pfffffff

[proud jackal]

Ansi superior

[wary fjord]

Close enough

[mortal grail]

[fresh nova]

Umm

[tranquil pebble]

the game is insanely long but 20 hours in should have you at good parts anyways

[wary fjord]

if u get all route and u do harem route it quite long xD

[elfin mural]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-b580-limited-edition-tested-in-3dmark-outperforms-rtx-4060-and-arc-a770-a750

faster than 4060 AND cheaper

3dmark timespy

so accurate enough i guess

[sinful blade]

Arc card supremacy

Once again

[craggy shoal]

I wouldn't say supremacy lol

more like "it can compete at the low-end market"

They're like AMD in 2016 imo

[elfin mural]

all i want is for the low end market to be alive again

that's where a lot of people can actually afford

[mortal grail]

That's a W for intel

God damn

[elfin mural]

ya

[craggy shoal]

yeah Intel will be great for this if they can price what's basically a 4060 at a lower price

[mortal grail]

@wispy knot

[elfin mural]

192 bit 12gb

im excited

[mortal grail]

$250

[elfin mural]

^

[mortal grail]

Wtf 14.5k

[craggy shoal]

yeah I wouldn't say that's bad. If you told me "my GPU costed me $250" I would assume that you have a 1080p card

[mortal grail]

Why they comparing to 4060

[elfin mural]

13th dec launch

[mortal grail]

That's a 3070 ffs

[elfin mural]

yeah lmao

the 4060 is getting burnt

this is.. spicy

[mortal grail]

It's 30% faster and has equivalent RT like

Who tf decided 4060 was the pick for the clickbait

[elfin mural]

intel

[mortal grail]

That's absolutely chaotic

Wtff

[craggy shoal]

Man I can't wait for its release so we can get real benchmarks

[mortal grail]

Please intel

Don't BS the drivers

That's all that remains

[elfin mural]

they overhauled arc control

[mortal grail]

Don't ruin the damn drivers

[elfin mural]

looks promising tbh

[mortal grail]

Please be worth the wait

[tranquil pebble]

Neco Arc GPU when?

[craggy shoal]

man what

not everything has to be anime bro 😭

[opaque sedge]

Shut up before u jinx it

Hope and pray

In silence

[mortal grail]

REAL

AHHH DAMMIT

I'LL BE BACK IMA DONATE TO THE CHURCH

PERFORM FENG SHUI

[craggy shoal]

Intel drivers are going to need some feng shui

[elfin mural]

if drivers fall apart imma cry

[craggy shoal]

nahhh they'll cook the drivers

just let them cook fr

[elfin mural]

if they cook

b570 is gonna be spicy too

[craggy shoal]

Just like how theo thought his 285K would've been good (only the drivers for the Intel GPUs will probably make them better. Better chance at this than with the CPUs)

[elfin mural]

like 4060 perf for $200

if it all works out nvidia is gonna have to put 4060s on discount lmao

same for amd

[mortal grail]

Ironically the 285K's basic drivers were the point of assness in particular

But despite that, they likely still won't fly far from the 14900K perch

[elfin mural]

i will shill intel (for the moment being) if arc battlemage has decent drivers

power consumption seems to be worse than nvidia but who cares

[mortal grail]

Ahhh I want a sparkle orc now

That 3dmark result told me everything

It's gonna be good, just, drivers left

Likely gonna be rdna 2-like release if I had to guess

[opaque sedge]

STOP TALKING ABT THE DRIVERS

UR JINXING IT

I CAN FEEL IT

[mortal grail]

IT'S THE WHOLE CAKE MAN

IT'S EVERYTHING

[opaque sedge]

HAVE UR CAKE IN YOUR HEAD

[mortal grail]

WHOA

Can you make it like dis

[grand kernel]

@rancid juniper i think my 13700k is not long for this world

probably gonna restart rma process once i get back home on saturday

[mortal grail]

You have a 5 year warranty if you didn't do ihs shenanigans

[opaque sedge]

And u guys said my dn jokes were bad…

[grand kernel]

yeah i got my rma approved before but they took too long so i had to put it on pause because i was leaving the country

[rancid juniper]

Unlucky... Also good morning everyone

[grand kernel]

it's kinda weird though cause like

i pass every stress test

no issues in most things

but this one specific map in only the hard mode of one specific raid in one specific game causes me to just chain BSOD every time i enter it

i can even run the normal mode of the same raid and same map without any issues

and they use the same map

so idk

[rancid juniper]

What was the vcore on that chip tho? Maybe it was because of the current idk, these chips were failures from the start

[mortal grail]

I didn't go around saying "THYROID BABY" for a month

[grand kernel]

i had it on manually controlled voltage since the day i got it

[opaque sedge]

Visions of familiar…

[grand kernel]

like 1.43 idle 1.28 load

shouldn't ever be an issue

last week we had to restart the raid a few times and every time we restarted i would bsod lmao

[rancid juniper]

Oh... 😔

[craggy shoal]

THYROID BABY

[opaque sedge]

@mortal grail u get what i mean by this

[grand kernel]

I have my cpu at bone stock intel default settings mode 12 now

[rancid juniper]

13600k: around .660mv idle to 1.095v load

[grand kernel]

ram reverted to xmp

[mortal grail]

Ngl I'm blanking

Lol

[grand kernel]

gonna do that raid again today if it still bsods I don't know what to do

[opaque sedge]

My paranoid ass with my gpus

Remember

[rancid juniper]

You got clocks at stock? Try reducing the mode

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah your unstable ram

[grand kernel]

I reinstalled windows, updated all drivers, intel ME, latest microcode

sfc no issues chkdsk no issues

[rancid juniper]

I run my CPU at 200a max as Intel suggested

[grand kernel]

the stop code is always either UNEXPECTED_STORE_EXCEPTION or CRITICAL_PROCESS_DIED I'm not sure if I've ever seen either of those pop up for an OC related issue

[grand kernel]

stock clocks, intel default settings

[rancid juniper]

Wtf

[grand kernel]

cpu is running at like 80A when it bsods

[mortal grail]

Power>RAM>CPU vcore

[rancid juniper]

Bro got the worse end of the stick

[grand kernel]

those stop codes are related to that?

[mortal grail]

Both are flagged for ram but you checked that, so I'm suspecting power

Maybe a bad riser, usb hub

[craggy shoal]

related to power is wild

[grand kernel]

my psu is comically overpowered for the load and has no problem sustaining loads 3x as intense

[rancid juniper]

So his CPU running on dirty power or?

[mortal grail]

Again, bad riser, usb hub

USB device in general

[grand kernel]

1000w psu running 300w total system power in that scenario

[mortal grail]

Sata drive

[grand kernel]

i dont have any usb hubs or risers

disks all check out fine

[mortal grail]

Anything with usb power can do it

Even your keyboard

[grand kernel]

i think my sata drive is just disabled in windows anyways

[mortal grail]

Dirty short feeds straight back into the CPU I/O

[grand kernel]

i unplugged extra usb devices and it didn't fix the bsods

[mortal grail]

I've seen it plenty of times, my own 7950X3D died from it

[rancid juniper]

Dang I dunno what to tell you, that CPU might actually be cooked and it's too late

[grand kernel]

the weird thing is that it only happens in that one map and only in one difficulty mode

[rancid juniper]

I hope I'm wrong but it ain't looking good

[grand kernel]

like if i run normal mode of the exact same raid it runs with 0 issues

[mortal grail]

Have you tried jedec with boosted voltage

[rancid juniper]

1.4v

[grand kernel]

ive tried jedec but not with boosted voltage

[mortal grail]

Try that

[grand kernel]

i will say that karhu still passes to 10000% with hefty oc

[mortal grail]

Separate windows install might also be an answer

Always can get differences after a year of a normal install

Esp. with a daily OC

And yes, even if you pass sfc and chkdsk

[rancid juniper]

I thought my OC was fine when I did both OCCT linpack and cinebench r23, but when I started occt avx2 + large + extreme I got whea errors instantly

Reverted back to my lowest undervolt profile and tested again, no issues

[craggy shoal]

You just reminded me to run an sfc /scannow

[grand kernel]

yeah I reinstalled a newer version of windows

[mortal grail]

Yea certain errors can manifest in specific conditions, it's why you do a wide gamut of testing, but pobody's nerfect

[grand kernel]

and reinstalled the offending game as well

[rancid juniper]

Hopefully not 24H2, that version is wild

💀

[mortal grail]

New ssd?

[grand kernel]

but the problem is I can only do that raid once a week

[rancid juniper]

So true

[grand kernel]

so we'll find out today if it still bsods lmao

[rancid juniper]

I run p95 afterwards

[grand kernel]

nah I got 23H2

[rancid juniper]

Good

[mortal grail]

Literally anything that feeds into the chipset/io could be power related

[grand kernel]

24H2 says it's incompatible with my system right now I heard they're doing a slow rollout to fix issues

[mortal grail]

RAM related errors can also be hmb/ssd dram

[craggy shoal]

W

[mortal grail]

Ur the real motor?

[craggy shoal]

yeah

[mortal grail]

Damn

Subscribe to my twitch

[grand kernel]

I didn't try a different ssd I guess I can try it if it's still bsoding today

[rancid juniper]

It's definitely incompatible with mine as I'm using an WD SN770 drive

[grand kernel]

but I think the first thing I would try is cpu rma

[craggy shoal]

motorYT lolll

[rancid juniper]

Doesn't hurt to try

[mortal grail]

I think this is a valid take, though anything that feeds into the IO die could still be a culprit

[grand kernel]

I hope they upgrade me lmao

[mortal grail]

Even the contact frame

[grand kernel]

I heard a lot of 13700k owners got free upgrades due to them not having 13700ks in stock anymore

[mortal grail]

Yes

[craggy shoal]

man I should've jumped on that

[mortal grail]

A lot of people also just get full refunds

[rancid juniper]

Ends up getting 14700k instead*

[grand kernel]

some even to 14900k

[rancid juniper]

That's worse tho imo

Lol

[grand kernel]

is it?

[mortal grail]

Eh, rma again in 4 years

[grand kernel]

assuming I lock it down on newest microcode

immediately

[mortal grail]

Pull a pcmr oled take

[rancid juniper]

CPU built past its limits, it's still gonna melt itself somehow

[mortal grail]

"I'll run it max brightness 4 years only playing valorant, then I'll waranty it and get a new one for 4 more years"

[tranquil pebble]

cRaptor lake

[tranquil pebble]

something tells me the rma would be denied

[mortal grail]

The people who ignored me believed it enough to commit

[rancid juniper]

A part of me thinks that they placed Pat on the worst years of intel

[mortal grail]

We'll see in 2 more years

💀

[tranquil pebble]

lol

[grand kernel]

well I don't think the 13700k is pushed nearly as hard as stock and it's still failing so 💀

[mortal grail]

Maybe you got the bad QC batch

[grand kernel]

stock is only 5.3p

[tranquil pebble]

Do they know nothing about how companies protect themselves?

[rancid juniper]

[mortal grail]

Oxidising from impure tantalum nitride layering

[grand kernel]

my daily was 5.5p with HT off and below stock voltage

[mortal grail]

You know when you fall in love with something, and immediately everyone else is wrong

This is the reason I avoid cringe pc communities

[rancid juniper]

Not enough lel

You can definitely pull <1.15v

[mortal grail]

I suspect oxidised tantalum nitride if the rma succeeds

i.e you got one of the 2023 Q3/Q4 batch

[tranquil pebble]

I only have gotten that feeling with cosmetic stuff... because that is subjective

[elfin mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA74Asvp5g8

wot, ac evo is open world?

[mortal grail]

Ah well when people ask me 60 questions a day, I get that with everything

[mortal grail]

I was trying to hint this to @craggy shoal and you yesterday lmfao

[elfin mural]

germany

the area surrounding the green hell

i love this

[tranquil pebble]

how many of those questions cause you to facepalm? guessing quite a few

[craggy shoal]

You act like you entirely know that it is lol

what

[mortal grail]

@rancid juniper

[mortal grail]

I did tho

[rancid juniper]

Seen that already, very excited

[mortal grail]

I saw this earlier

When the vid first came out

💀

[tranquil pebble]

Does it run ok on Linux though? If not then I wont be playing it too much.

[elfin mural]

graphics also look decent

[mortal grail]

I am praying the price is not stupid

[tranquil pebble]

$69.99 with almost no cars, ever DLC car costs $19.99 each /j

That would be if they did the plane sim model XD

[mortal grail]

Yeah I'm not investing in iracing

[elfin mural]

graphics look

honestly stunning

like near gt7

[tranquil pebble]

GT7 made me mad when they reduced race payouts after launch

[mortal grail]

Wait until you hear that the recommended specs is a 2070 and 2600x

Oh wait

[rancid juniper]

Yep

[tranquil pebble]

so my 6900xt + 5700x3d have nothing to worry about then

[elfin mural]

recc spec is 2070?

my 4050 is gonna be chilling

[mortal grail]

Depending how good this game is, might be my next full-time thing

I already liked ACC

[elfin mural]

a game that can be taken seriously

but also goof around in?

count me in

[tranquil pebble]

same

but it running on Linux is still a big deal for me

Knowing Valve, even if the developer doesnt, fixes if needed will be added to proton.

[elfin mural]

ya

proton would most likely make it work

hold up..

the map is 1600 SQUARE KILOMETERS?

[tranquil pebble]

I am kinda neutral on AUR at this point. Some of the packages do not compile without extra steps, and at that point why not do it manually?

[elfin mural]

that's huge

[rancid juniper]

Can't wait to drive a custom bathtub car on nurburgring freeroam (mod)

[tranquil pebble]

gmod moment

[elfin mural]

oh 1600km of roads

[rancid juniper]

Peakmod

[tranquil pebble]

Someone should add Morgana bus to it

[rancid juniper]

Game will reach 12/10 status if so

[tranquil pebble]

GMod has a major fault though: Linux support is very bad.

like it can run, but good luck loading into servers

[mortal grail]

Stop drinking wine and look out a window

[tranquil pebble]

You will have to drag me kicking and screaming back to using Windows as my main OS

[grand kernel]

nah definitely no chance

[tranquil pebble]

Short of Microsoft reversing course on the Win11 nonsense

[grand kernel]

I got it very close to release

[mortal grail]

I'll send my hounds

@elfin mural seize him

[elfin mural]

lmao

[grand kernel]

I was specifically waiting for 13th gen to come out to upgrade from my i3-12100

[rancid juniper]

be 7600

[elfin mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_CkztJ4PHk

[grand kernel]

that I got as an emergency holdover from my 5800x with usb dropout

[elfin mural]

im sorry what

hyundai is crazy

[mortal grail]

Noh bad

[grand kernel]

now I've been burned by both intel and amd

unfortunate

[rancid juniper]

lmfao what???

[mortal grail]

Time to switch to nvidia cpu

[grand kernel]

time to buy via cpu

[rancid juniper]

dang these cpus hatin on you

[grand kernel]

if nvidia cpus are ever consumer viable I'd consider it? but I think they're going for ARM aren't they

[mortal grail]

I was already burned by both

[grand kernel]

I haven't been keeping up with cutting edge news

[mortal grail]

I came out the other end remembering nothing new

[grand kernel]

I haven't been burned by nvidia yet at least xd

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-b580-limited-edition-tested-in-3dmark-outperforms-rtx-4060-and-arc-a770-a750

[mortal grail]

They're the same stuff these days

[rancid juniper]

this is good

[tranquil pebble]

Cyrix MII was my first CPU

[rancid juniper]

this is good

[mortal grail]

Ah yes repost

[rancid juniper]

dammit

[mortal grail]

This is good

[elfin mural]

this is good

[mortal grail]

This is good yes

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-b580-limited-edition-tested-in-3dmark-outperforms-rtx-4060-and-arc-a770-a750

[grand kernel]

my 4080 is still running rock solid with a ridiculous oc

[tranquil pebble]

233 MHz of P5 clone fury

[grand kernel]

and I think I've done a reasonable job pushing it to its limits with heavy model training

[elfin mural]

intel making me giddy about mainstream gpus

[rancid juniper]

adds +300watts for an extra 2fps

[mortal grail]

Ada do be like that

[grand kernel]

lmao

I can't extend the pl that much even with strix vbios flash

it has a 420W PL and I can't even make it hit that

[mortal grail]

Cos vrel perfcap

[elfin mural]

my tuf is getting 93c under full cpu load

wonder if i should be concerned

[rancid juniper]

mmm

[mortal grail]

No

[grand kernel]

max settings path traced cyberpunk makes it hit like 330W out of 420W

[elfin mural]

ok good

[rancid juniper]

just uv it if u want

[mortal grail]

Go do furmark or TSE

That should push the cap

[grand kernel]

I don't think it even hits 420W in TSE

I haven't bothered with furmark though

[mortal grail]

My 4090 hits 575W in furmark 2

In fact mobile games have pushed my XTX to 700W lmfao

[grand kernel]

well I got my 4080 to output sub 60 fps in genshin 💀

[craggy shoal]

I didn't know Felix had a 4090 lol

[sage sluice]

How many cards do you have 😭

[mortal grail]

The weirdest things you'll find bring out the power on the ADA chips

[sage sluice]

Was fixing to ask

[mortal grail]

Enough to make the seasons but not enough to make every day of the week

Yet

[grand kernel]

throwback to genshin pushing my 3090 to 600W

[rancid juniper]

bruh

[sage sluice]

Honestly i find it funny the techier the person the less likely to own a 4090 from my experience

[grand kernel]

when your screenshot is 32 MB 💀

[sage sluice]

It's almost as if we know it's a rip off 😭

[rancid juniper]

on a unity game

[grand kernel]

there's definitely a curve to it

[mortal grail]

I own all this from my benching days, I was obsessed with ambient OC

[grand kernel]

and at the end of the curve you find the overclockers that probably have more than 1 4090

[mortal grail]

I still sit in the 3dmark hall of fame

[sage sluice]

You just have moolah

[mortal grail]

It's been what, 2 years now?

Lol

[rancid juniper]

send link

or cap

[sage sluice]

Ive seen it

[grand kernel]

this felix guy kinda rich

[sage sluice]

Granted it's not time spy hall of fame

But

[elfin mural]

i was wondering why windows wouldn't play av1 videos

turns out i had to install the extension

[mortal grail]

Go look up 1x GPU, Fire strike, I'm in one of them, maybe more than one

Around the 50's

Still Top 5 fastest XTX

[rancid juniper]

ok

[grand kernel]

I had #1 spot for 4080 in time spy for a brief time

😔

[mortal grail]

Yeah for me I had the XTX world record in FS and FSU for a short while

[mortal grail]

Ah higher than I thought?

Eh

[grand kernel]

my 13700k was always very average at best though

[mortal grail]

I thought I was like top 50 by now

[grand kernel]

and being on ddr4 surely didn't help

[mortal grail]

Huh

[rancid juniper]

im "chillin" with ddr4

[mortal grail]

Old ram

[grand kernel]

the highest I could bench was 5.6/5.0/4.4 HT on with ddr4-4133 15-15-15

[rancid juniper]

stop

[grand kernel]

not great for a bench oc

[mortal grail]

Oh I'm top 50 all gpus

Ah

[rancid juniper]

i had no money getting a ddr5 board when i bought the 13600k

[grand kernel]

not when I gotta compete against people benching 13900ks at 6.0

going ddr4 was definitely the right choice for me

[mortal grail]

You didn't notice who I beat

[grand kernel]

got my board for super cheap and gary sent me free b-die lol

[mortal grail]

[grand kernel]

$0 cpu $100 board $0 ram

[rancid juniper]

☠️

[mortal grail]

Henlo

[rancid juniper]

i can see what this guy can do if his cpu fails

the pc:

[grand kernel]

leave my poor peasant chip alone

[rancid juniper]

same guy btw that wants to see the downfall of my 13600k

[grand kernel]

isn't 5.6 the stock all core for 13900k?

or is that 13900ks

[rancid juniper]

13900k i believe

[mortal grail]

I can't remember

They both do 6 lmfao

[grand kernel]

it's one of them for sure

[mortal grail]

Mine do anyway

[rancid juniper]

dang nvm

[grand kernel]

my bench oc is only the stock speed of the higher chip

sad

[rancid juniper]

headache inducing already

stick to one turbo bro

lmfao

[grand kernel]

I feel like a celeron 300a user in the p2 days lol

except not nearly as exciting

[grand kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

okay I got an exam in 25 mins gonna do some last minute review

today is looking very fun I have exams from 8-12:30 and 1:30-6

gotta speedrun lunch in between

[rancid juniper]

Oof good luck

[grand kernel]

goodbye

[rancid juniper]

Lol

[grand kernel]

they're fun subjects at least

distributed systems and computer vision

[rancid juniper]

Ooh very uh, computer sciency?

[mortal grail]

Bro got superpowers in the second half

DC comics moment

[rancid juniper]

I hope bro goes to Nvidia and start trolling

[mortal grail]

I wish I could do that

Go in there rn and tell them Intel got their number

[rancid juniper]

They'll get spooked rq

[sage sluice]

nah hes gonna mod a blackberry and make that his home computer

[craggy shoal]

I see this every three months

[wicked oriole]

My buddy that got that pre built that was suppose to have a 9900x in it had a 7800x3d lmao

[craggy shoal]

W

why complain lmao

[wicked oriole]

It just dawned upon me after I asked him to check to make sure he got the right parts

[sage sluice]

"Would you come over? My phone isnt working"
"Thats a 30 minute drive grandma, can i help over call? also whos phone are you calling me on if it isnt working?"
"well the screen is really dark"

[mortal grail]

He literally got a better one

Lmfao

[sage sluice]

the only tech support ive done for my grandma was her being unable to connect her ancient ass laptop to the internet, damn thing is like 12 years old now and still kicking

[wicked oriole]

I know lol just funny cyberpower messed up

[sage sluice]

all i had to do was go to settings and just hit troublshoot

[tidal scroll]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fxjsXR solid build

?

With a 3070 as the gpu and a corsair psu

[mortal grail]

I wouldn't touch anything NZXT rn with a 10ft pole after their late scandal with scamming kids and financially illiterate

If you're already aware of that though then Not a whole lot to say but the build can improve

[sage sluice]

was gonna mention that

NZXT is scum #1

as of rn

[mortal grail]

Wtf pg riptide is 120

Oh wait b760m

[sage sluice]

https://www.newegg.com/white-fractal-design-pop-air-rgb-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352170

[mortal grail]

I thought it was B650m

[mortal grail]

Not a bad alternative if you want specifically the nzxt appearance

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/y71NoyWUJbw?si=4muWjzdwYzeBTCM2

this game...

[sage sluice]

i didnt even like fortnite on launch

im just not a fan of the plastic-y style

[craggy shoal]

https://www.pikatea.com/collections/products/products/funky60

[mortal grail]

LMFAO

[craggy shoal]

L O N G B O I
https://www.pikatea.com/collections/products/products/long-boi

[velvet summit]

I prefer the battleship

[mortal grail]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805676873344.html
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9LLqpK
Or Intel B580, or used 3070 if you can get a good one for like $250, 7500F is a 7600/X with no iGPU, same stuff, trusted seller article

@tidal scroll

[sage sluice]

goofy ass board

[sage sluice]

i spoke too soon

[sage sluice]

oh i just assumed they already bought the gpu n stuff

[tidal scroll]

I have gpu storage, psu, just need cpu mobo case and ram

[sage sluice]

ah yep

[tidal scroll]

A white case with fans already so I don't need to buy more

[sage sluice]

i already sent one

look up

[remote geode]

i wonder if I can feel the latency of a 2.4ghz keyboard dongle

[mortal grail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BjkRTM
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805676873344.html

[sage sluice]

maybe if youre an alien

[remote geode]

gonna try it in CS2 :hap:

[sage sluice]

or if the dongle is really cheap

bluetooth is really the only place itd be an issue

[remote geode]

it's a Logitech Bolt dongle

[sage sluice]

i dont know enough about logitech keyboards

probably because they suck 😭 (from what ive seen)

but if their dongle is anything like their mouse it should be fine

i cant notice any latency on my g305 even if i try

[mortal grail]

Maybe if it's garbage

I do not expect a supermarket tier 2.4 dongle to have genuinely good latency

[craggy shoal]

This Logitech wireless office keyboards are top tier garbage

[mortal grail]

https://open.spotify.com/track/7vEuwE2rLZeFgjQItAel20

[sage sluice]

most general tech manufacturer keyboards are either mid or suck

razer, corsair, you name it

[mortal grail]

Read a really good comment about this

[remote geode]

i don't feel it

so I think its pretty good for my use case

[mortal grail]

"Once a company trades public, the party stops"

[sage sluice]

bars

[tidal scroll]

Its a little small, i also have a cpu cooler and is the 5 7500f worth spending a little less than the 7600

[mortal grail]

Dan A3 is the best case on the market and fits my wide ass 4090

[sage sluice]

hey if youre happy with it thats all that matters

[mortal grail]

Also yes, it's the same CPU for 60 less

It just lacks an igpu which you won't need if you are using an old 3070

[sage sluice]

(although if you buy any keyboards again in the future get something like the royal kludge rk61)

for budget

[remote geode]

yeah unless your company really wants to go against the grain, it's usually the case

[tidal scroll]

Ok w

Did it come with fans

[mortal grail]

It doesn't however it uses the gpu itself to actually run with all the mesh

So it doesn't technically need any fans

Similar example is the AP201

They work similarly

IM01 as well

[tidal scroll]

So I don't need any extra fans?

[mortal grail]

Not really no

I can link you fans if you want to have some

I know some good picks

Cost $4 a fan

[sage sluice]

actually why do so many budget linear mechanicals have stupidly obnoxious amounts of rgb

like they never chill

[mortal grail]

Gamer rgb =+150fps

[tidal scroll]

I just prefer a larger case than the smaller ones yk?

[sage sluice]

i have rgb turned off on my mobo

[mortal grail]

Ok pick between one or the other

Full white or larger case

Cos I can't reasonably do both together without inflating the budget tremendously

[sage sluice]

macro atx ✨

[remote geode]

"marketed for gamers"

[tidal scroll]

Larger case that's majority ehite

[mortal grail]

Micro atx is as good or better than atx these days

[remote geode]

this one seems to be p chill cho

[sage sluice]

yeah theyre so good (i use a micro itx because i hate myself)

[mortal grail]

I can either suggest a good white case or a good large case but not large white if you care about aesthetics

[tidal scroll]

Like what's wrong with cases like the 4000d or the h5 flow

[sage sluice]

white tax

[mortal grail]

Old and expensive, there are better picks, not the core issue tho

[sage sluice]

nzxt is a crook of a company

[tidal scroll]

Ah ok

[mortal grail]

A matching white large board gives you no benefits and costs like $80 more for nothing

That's why I'm saying this lol

[tidal scroll]

I guess the micro case is fine then

[sage sluice]

honestly, i do enjoy black internals in a white case

[mortal grail]

You'll appreciate the case imo man, it's one of the best performing cases in 2024

And it's extremely customisable

[sage sluice]

lian li cases are top of the line

[sweet phoenix]

At times

[sage sluice]

for SUCH a good price

[mortal grail]

Name what you want, it'll do it, you just need to have an mATX motherboard is the only catch

[sage sluice]

true true

[mortal grail]

This is one of those times tho

Dan A3 is wayyyy better than any of their normal stuff lol

[sage sluice]

got me thinking about the case ive been wanting

[tidal scroll]

Will my hdds and ssd fit in it

[mortal grail]

How many

[grand kernel]

so I was supposed to have exams from 8-12:30 and 1:30-6 with an hour in between for lunch

[mortal grail]

Also how big are they too tbh

[grand kernel]

it's 8:28 and the testing center is still not ready for my 8am final

guess I am not eating today

very cool