general-chat

[hoary zodiac]

That's huge

[mortal grail]

9900K?

Ah

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

They are pushing the silicon a lot harder with the coffee lake refresh

So it wouldn't be a fair comparison

[mortal grail]

Actually that's kinda comparable

He is doing better

What it is is likely the coldplate on the PA is very convex

And older intel iirc is also very convex

So not the best contact

Since they're not designed for old gen

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah tbh I haven't seen anyone pair a coffee lake with a peerless assassin

[fair onyx]

I went from
C Drive: 45GB free
D Drive: 80 GB free
E Drive: 72GB free
to
C Drive: 471GB Free
D Drive: 665GB Free
E Drive: 1,114GB Free

[hoary zodiac]

That reminds me

I should probably purge my package manager cache

[fair onyx]

Man this is so much less anxiety inducing lol

[hoary zodiac]

New Volume

[tranquil pebble]

old volume

[mortal grail]

He realised something at E:\

[hoary zodiac]

Do y'all name your partitions

[tranquil pebble]

no not usually

[sage sluice]

Why is it so.. even 😭

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder how bad my disk situation is

[sage sluice]

I have a single 2tb ssd

I need more storage tbh

Thanks to felix tho ive preordered a keeb and burnt my budget lol

[mortal grail]

The crazier the better

For some reason

[unreal trail]

yeah its more like 1.8

[sage sluice]

Actually that is 2tb

[mortal grail]

@hoary zodiac a gigabyte a minute rn

[sage sluice]

Its just that storage is deciphered differently

[mortal grail]

Internet speed

It's gonna triple

[hoary zodiac]

oh my god my main storage partition is almost full

time to purge some steam game

[mortal grail]

Nyoom

[idle nexus]

this dude really seems like he knows what he's talking about https://www.youtube.com/@ThreatInteractive/videos

[sage sluice]

Storage is different due to binary capacity

[idle nexus]

UE5=crap lol

[hoary zodiac]

I really need to uninstall something

[mortal grail]

I've been watching him for a while, frost put me onto him. Spits absolute facts about how garbage ue5 is

[idle nexus]

just delete swap partition ez lmao

[sage sluice]

So while yes you get 2 tbs, a gigabyte is read as 1,073,741,824 bytes instead of 1,000,000,000 as youd expect

[idle nexus]

1gb is not 1000mb it's 1064 cuz reasons

[sage sluice]

Im not a computer so

[idle nexus]

so if I understand this

[hoary zodiac]

I can't remember if lsblk uses 1024 or 1000

ok it uses 1024

[idle nexus]

UE is for Fortnite; Fortnite world is almost entirely destructible; UE gets used for not Fortnite & sucks cuz lack of precombines?

i.e., GPU doesn't have lots of stuff that's always there (few static objects)

cuz I learned the hard way from modding Fallout4 that when you break pre-combines, you break performance massively

am I getting this kinda at least? I'm an idiot when it comes to this lol

[mortal grail]

The main issue I'm aware of is the engine has way too much potential but all that potential is baked in by default

So like

You can have a wall, or maybe a ball

[idle nexus]

what works for fortnite doesn't work for Stalker2 lol

[mortal grail]

And you can bake in Y amount of physics

But you don't need Y

It only appears in the game for 1 scene

5 minutes

[sinful blade]

Anyone want this?

[mortal grail]

But everything has this Y level

Which is akin to like, highly realistic

Then everything is like that

[unreal trail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLyOj_QD4a4

[mortal grail]

But it's on afaik mainly with light effects and RT

So you get all this small scale stuff that has way too many baked in individual effects, but it's in the entire world en masse

And thus you get the slow down

I haven't watched a massive amount of his stuff, it's hard to follow being a non-programmer

The take away I got though was disproportions on a large scale

[idle nexus]

ya like I recognize some of what I consider "buzz words" I recognize like TSR, TAA, DLSS, XeSS, FSR, etc. ("buzz... acronyms?") but trying to follow along with his description of what's taking place in the GPU pipeline I'm like, "ya that's a mess... cuz you said so--I have no idea personally & I'd sooner build an entire house than come up with an actual way to fix it"

[mortal grail]

Yea

Combine that with poor timelines for AAA

And you get a clustertruck of bad performing games

[north crescent]

This guy goes over most of modern optimisation issues.
https://youtu.be/lJu_DgCHfx4

[mortal grail]

This was such an eye opener vid

[idle nexus]

LOL #general-chat message

derp

[craggy shoal]

bruh why does he look like that

[tranquil pebble]

AAA is fubar as an industry

[mortal grail]

Why do you look like some operational torque creator

[craggy shoal]

motor

[idle nexus]

my sense tho is that UE puts it on devs to come up with customizations to their engine to optimize it for their game but they're just like nah it's fine & use various things to fudge it

[tranquil pebble]

sounds right tbh

[tranquil pebble]

UE can be customized at source code level, so yeah

[mortal grail]

Watch and learn:
https://youtu.be/8WG_cBQu01Y

Surprised I get to send this twice this week

[idle nexus]

also something about nanite sucks cuz it's basically compression for shadows or something they lost me there

[mortal grail]

tl;dr 18/6 sucks

[north crescent]

But basically to sum lot of stuff up. Engines are kinda going towards optimizing for dev at cost of perf rather than perf at cost of previous dev time. Almost all of UE5 feature "upgrades" from UE4 features is like that.

[idle nexus]

oh see I thought he was saying that they use all this crap to fudge things to make them look photorealistic which in turn just destroys performance

[tranquil pebble]

I would much rather graphics be weaker than have ruined perf

[north crescent]

Photorealistic with X amt of dev time

[idle nexus]

UE is apparently cool with 30fps

[mortal grail]

Kinda sorta not really

[craggy shoal]

I just want a decent frame rate. idc how good the game looks

[tranquil pebble]

same

[mortal grail]

NYOOOOOOMMMM

[tranquil pebble]

Textures being not blurry and decent poly count is good enough for me

[craggy shoal]

(For PC):
Competitive games: should be at 120fps at minimum (the 7600 can already do this iirc)
Single player games: should be able to handle at least 60fps on okayish hardware

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/doppler-effect-racecar-race-car-gif-10602914

[opaque sedge]

Oh nice fiber?

[mortal grail]

Ya I just about finished working on it

Waiting for the rest of the speed to get enabled now

[tranquil pebble]

Cyberpunk 2077 seems pretty well optimized on PC now

[idle nexus]

8gb vram & 60fps is fine for like 10 years ago lol

[mortal grail]

Only took them like 3 years

Lol

[opaque sedge]

Most stable intensive game in my library 💀

[mortal grail]

That game crashed hourly on release

[tranquil pebble]

better late than never

[mortal grail]

[mortal grail]

True

[craggy shoal]

h

[mortal grail]

h

[opaque sedge]

I’ve played it consecutively for 8 hours never crashed on me, so technically its the most stable game in my library

[tranquil pebble]

I will absolutely applaud devs who bounce back from a messy launch. I appreciate the effort put in.

[mortal grail]

I trust that with your unstable ram

[craggy shoal]

playing a game for a straight eight hours is nuts

[opaque sedge]

I set up some manual timings based on falcie’s recs

[mortal grail]

You've been in chat for longer

[idle nexus]

it's hard to crap on devs because the business model of "put some effort>release game>decide whether to put more effort based on sales projections"

[craggy shoal]

ur mom

[mortal grail]

Is in chat less yeah

[craggy shoal]

At least my neckbeard isn't as big

[opaque sedge]

First exposure to gaming does that to a man the dopamine was crazy

[tranquil pebble]

the stupid part is that those sales projections are meaningless when people figure out the game is a mess

[mortal grail]

You seem to have her confused with someone else

[idle nexus]

which CPU is this? lol

[mortal grail]

I'm not actually the guy in the golf at work btw

[opaque sedge]

7800x3d

[idle nexus]

ya but they'll jump ship & not care if it's not gonna sell

[mortal grail]

Just in case it wasn't obvious

💀

[tranquil pebble]

even if it was their fault for it

absolutely bonkers

[idle nexus]

send ZenTimings

[mortal grail]

Zend sentiming

[opaque sedge]

Lemme download real quick

[mortal grail]

Wtf I'm nearly done downloading 111GB

[idle nexus]

DarkRed is my favorite theme now lol

[mortal grail]

Is this the true speed of internets

I've been just chilled here for like 2 hours

Wtf

[tranquil pebble]

dl speed?

[craggy shoal]

2 hours is crazy for 111GB

[mortal grail]

240mbps rn, 750 later

[craggy shoal]

oh makes sense

lmao

you say fiber and I expect a gigabit

[mortal grail]

My latency is insane tho man

8 unloaded +4 dl +0 ul

[craggy shoal]

what's your latency like?

bruh

[opaque sedge]

Did i download the right one?

[tranquil pebble]

fiber signal can travel farther without degrading so latency plummets

[mortal grail]

I still need to mess with my router settings to reduce the last bit of buffer

I'm just using some settings from about half a day of tests

[idle nexus]

did you get it here? https://zentimings.com/

[unreal trail]

dithering is all over modern games

[tranquil pebble]

what router?

[opaque sedge]

Yup

[mortal grail]

dither bother you before

[idle nexus]

get it here if you're suspicious lol https://www.techpowerup.com/download/amd-ryzen-zen-timings/

[mortal grail]

Asus

[idle nexus]

then ya just run it

[opaque sedge]

what does this mean

[unreal trail]

no, it was a symptom of PS1s rendering ability back then

[idle nexus]

it won't read some of the memory voltages

[opaque sedge]

@idle nexus

[mortal grail]

dither think my comment through ngl

[storm narwhal]

Ram

[idle nexus]

mine does same

[storm narwhal]

idk what I'm looking at tbh

[tranquil pebble]

PS1 looked bad even for the time

[mortal grail]

WHAT

No

[opaque sedge]

Ramming deez

[mortal grail]

Gran Turismo was revolutionary

[opaque sedge]

Crap forgot naht told me stop

[storm narwhal]

Naur stop it

You cannot keep doing this

[mortal grail]

Naur

[tranquil pebble]

well some games did

[idle nexus]

Dreamcast Resident Evil Code Veronica looked way better than PlayStation version

[mortal grail]

Kellyyyy

[unreal trail]

Sega Saturn looked great though

[craggy shoal]

I still play GT7 on my gf's PS4. Insane how optimized it is

[mortal grail]

NOARRR

[tranquil pebble]

yes it was

[craggy shoal]

Is this how you say "no" in Australian?

[mortal grail]

Imagine playing railway physics the car game

[tranquil pebble]

GT2 was IMO the greatest PS1 racer ever

[mortal grail]

Yuearrr

[opaque sedge]

so what should i do now?

b2 is the same

[mortal grail]

Soundtrack SLAPS

[craggy shoal]

Man idk what you're talking about because it actually plays really good 💀

[opaque sedge]

oh god

[tranquil pebble]

car variety and tracks do too

[mortal grail]

Try a pc sim

[opaque sedge]

slaps..

[craggy shoal]

nah you're right. I just need to set it up properly

[craggy shoal]

lol what do you listen to?

[tranquil pebble]

GT kept breaking records for most cars in a single game lol

[craggy shoal]

deez nuts?

[opaque sedge]

no slap works with dn jokes but i cant make any cuz i got warned...

[mortal grail]

Like...gran turism?

[craggy shoal]

you can slap deez nuts

[mortal grail]

[unreal trail]

Gran Turismo corrected PS1 rendering problems in software

[craggy shoal]

wym lmao. it's already setup properly lol

[opaque sedge]

[tranquil pebble]

ah that explains how it looked so good compared to other ps1 games

[mortal grail]

https://open.spotify.com/track/1S5mZS5iUhTU7teY9uvovj

[craggy shoal]

I just like me a good simcade. So GT7 is just that. Having a currency and have to work for upgrades and other stuff (so... GT7)

I wanna try connecting my wheel to PCSX2 though so I can do the same for GT4

[tranquil pebble]

GT6 is my favorite GT so far because the license tests are manageable

[mortal grail]

You didn't gold all the licenses?

[tranquil pebble]

And it has like 1200 cars in it

[mortal grail]

[craggy shoal]

the licenses are difficult in some of the GT games 😭

[mortal grail]

Wym

I haven't struggled

[craggy shoal]

That Bugatti one in either 5 or 6 I SWEAR BRUH (forgot which GT it was)

[mortal grail]

[tranquil pebble]

mostly ones before ps3 era

[opaque sedge]

what are some good racing games on pc

[idle nexus]

these don't look half bad tbh. tWTR_S can likely tighten to 4. You could max out tREFI to 65535. tWRRD 1. tWRWR_sd/dd 8/8 doesn't really matter since you're using two SR DIMMs.

[mortal grail]

Raceroom

PC2

iRacing

[craggy shoal]

AC (just pick this one if you're starting out tbh)

[mortal grail]

Automobilista

AC

ACC

PC2

[tranquil pebble]

I had to turn off assists for that iirc

[mortal grail]

LMU

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/teacher-school-learning-what-now-gif-12908609

[craggy shoal]

yeah you really have to know how to manipulate a car to pass that one

[idle nexus]

you might get the primaries to tighten a bit from 38 to either 36 or 37

[mortal grail]

Wtf GT2's soundtrack had straight up swearing in it

[craggy shoal]

honestly I don't even remember getting to the Bugatti license test. I only got up to the Lamborghini license test but couldn't ever pass it (I was a kid and just had all of the assists turned on)

[mortal grail]

[idle nexus]

so to shorten my answer, tWTR_S 4 & tREFI 65535 is really it

[opaque sedge]

got it

[mortal grail]

Send me ur account I'll do it

[opaque sedge]

screenshotting in case i forget

[idle nexus]

are VDD & VDDQ on auto?

[mortal grail]

I'm lowkey serious btw

Lol

[opaque sedge]

i belive i set the voltages

[craggy shoal]

nah I can't even find my PS3 anymore

[opaque sedge]

lemme find the guide falcie linked me

[mortal grail]

Have you tried "find my ps3" app

[idle nexus]

tbh I thought you were gonna show me like XMP values but Falcie gave good recommendations lol

[craggy shoal]

https://tenor.com/eNkaqfuAspD.gif

[opaque sedge]

https://www.patreon.com/posts/low-effort-rank-77403831

[mortal grail]

YYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://open.spotify.com/track/0yduCUWwMtAUbAVkMtUpLR

[craggy shoal]

YYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[mortal grail]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[storm narwhal]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (I have no idea what is happening)

[idle nexus]

ya A-die on Ryzen is already bdie on Ryzen status with timings being really predictable

[idle nexus]

YOOOOOOOOOO (me neither)

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/oooo-wow-shocked-surprised-gif-14183082096479573119

[storm narwhal]

Those exclamation marks actually confused me what is that 0.2mm spacing lmao

[mortal grail]

Artistic direction

[idle nexus]

lol some sort of backwards broken p & regular p but neither quite right...

[storm narwhal]

Fair

It's the artist's vision obviously

[opaque sedge]

uhh

[storm narwhal]

They couldn't possibly have made a mistake and we're just overinterpreting the work

[idle nexus]

dis

[storm narwhal]

That would be ridiculous!!!

[mortal grail]

https://open.spotify.com/track/7vEuwE2rLZeFgjQItAel20

[opaque sedge]

looks like... rump

i've been playing too much elden ring

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/concert-crowd-dino-dinosaur-dinosaur-concert-gif-8370755840133370757

[mortal grail]

Got eaten btw

[idle nexus]

lol I still don't get it any of it

[opaque sedge]

I got the bus sim game from epic

The epic launcher isnt bad right?

[idle nexus]

I've learned to kinda not hate it

[storm narwhal]

oh my god the stupid bannana

So obviously money laundering

LIke you could not be more obvious I'm pretty sure

[idle nexus]

lol

[craggy shoal]

ngl seeing things in third-person irl would be sick

[idle nexus]

then you'd have to look at your own back constantly tho

[storm narwhal]

Ah yes, this bannana taped to a white foam board is worth

about a couple million

[idle nexus]

heck even better than claiming you won the money overseas at a casino

[storm narwhal]

mmm yes, I've never eaten a tastier bannana in my life!

It was so worth that couple million

[idle nexus]

I'm surprised Chiquita didn't sue

YOU'RE USING OUR IPz

[storm narwhal]

Me neither

[idle nexus]

(we don't think we can win necessarily but are so down to settle real quick)

[storm narwhal]

If you just gave us a 25% cut of the money you laundered

That would just be grand

[idle nexus]

ez

[storm narwhal]

In return perhaps we shall not tell on you

[idle nexus]

the artist is lucky they took off the chiquita sticker

would've been hecked

[mortal grail]

@idle nexus I DON'T NEED ITTTTTT

[idle nexus]

heck that's a tight 90

like damn

[storm narwhal]

Thats what she said

[mortal grail]

Watch w/ me https://youtu.be/uegUb4Vf1Nw

[idle nexus]

it's pretty easy to frost PETG btw

just sand it

Mike did it on stream

[mortal grail]

THE BLOCK YO

THE BLOCK

[storm narwhal]

Oh I thought you had to like heat the pipe

[idle nexus]

ya that's pretty nice

[craggy shoal]

ungoobering for a second. I really like these types of shots. I like how close they are and how detailed they are. I'm honestly tired of the "here's my WHOLE BUILD. CABLE MANAGED AT ALL LOOK AT IT ISN'T IT GORGEOUS?" Close ups are underrated

[idle nexus]

to bend it ya but to frost it you sand it

[idle nexus]

heck I started watching in discord but then the stupid ad started playing but watching now

lol Core i9 & two 4090s

this is 100% needed ya

Asus cases are so expensive

[mortal grail]

Wtf the block uses the Asus lcd mobo screen

It's a mono block

Wtfff

[idle nexus]

that case is just EVGA's with fillers lol

[storm narwhal]

That is

[mortal grail]

AHHHHH

[storm narwhal]

Very cool but also weird

[mortal grail]

FOMO

MY FOMO

[storm narwhal]

Like are you an open air bench or a case

[mortal grail]

IT'S HITTING ME IN MY FOMO

[idle nexus]

why cool the entire motherboard but not memory

[storm narwhal]

NOT IN THE FOMO

[craggy shoal]

nutty

[storm narwhal]

THATS WHERE I'M WEAK

Its like a liver shot in boxing

[idle nexus]

lol that pasting job was so half assed

[mortal grail]

He's sponsored by asus is why

[storm narwhal]

A sus

[craggy shoal]

ROG RAM?

[unreal trail]

lol

[idle nexus]

Klev by ROG

[mortal grail]

AAAAAA

[idle nexus]

er ROG by Klev

[mortal grail]

Beats by dre

[storm narwhal]

Holy crap that board looks cool af

[idle nexus]

this is the first time I've ever seen orange go well with red lol

[unreal trail]

so is it better to have two ram sticks or four?

[mortal grail]

It's so cleaaannnnn

[mortal grail]

2

[idle nexus]

2

[storm narwhal]

Wait you're so right it is orange with red wtf

[craggy shoal]

2

[unreal trail]

alright

[craggy shoal]

2

[storm narwhal]

2

[mortal grail]

If possible 1 in the future

[storm narwhal]

That orange legit looks nearly like the red on my phone

[idle nexus]

why not just do 360mm distro plate if you're gonna hang it on the front fans anyway

[mortal grail]

Those cables man....

[idle nexus]

dual 4090s for important... uh play game while the other chills

[storm narwhal]

Wow those cables

Combed and everything

[mortal grail]

They're just cablemod customs but that colourway is gorgeous

[storm narwhal]

Also wow typing with a rubber protective layer on top of a keyboard is really different

[idle nexus]

tbh

Coolermaster did it better on the case imo

[storm narwhal]

No flying across the keys without lifting ya fingers completely away

[mortal grail]

Membrane but backwards lah

[idle nexus]

CoolerMaster Cosmos is old as heck

[storm narwhal]

You really have to commit to each keypress or it just gets missed

[mortal grail]

Membrane but backwards lah

[storm narwhal]

But it's pretty necessary for a portable outdoor keyboard...

[idle nexus]

I still wanna know how to bend 90s that tight lol

[storm narwhal]

What if I spill my coffee on it

[mortal grail]

When the money shot is worth more than the pc

[storm narwhal]

Maybe one of those multi million dollar machines they use to bend aluminum pipes

[mortal grail]

Put it in the dishwasher

[craggy shoal]

bruh I'm saying

[mortal grail]

(No this actually is a thing)

[idle nexus]

ROG monitor arm for those who can't spend money fast enough

[storm narwhal]

Wait washing your pipes magically bends it 90 degrees?

[idle nexus]

they should've done 2x Matrix Platinums

[storm narwhal]

Wait a minute pause?

[craggy shoal]

are those custom shrouds?

[mortal grail]

[mortal grail]

Limited run 4090

[craggy shoal]

oh gotcha

I still want to make my GPU white

[mortal grail]

They're worth a lot from memory

[storm narwhal]

The shroud looks sick though man

LIke I would want that

[craggy shoal]

might just print my shroud idk

[idle nexus]

video ended & I got stuck into the youtube void real quick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyAwElUNfF4

[cedar compass]

https://tenor.com/view/cocaine-strix-gang-strix-3090-rtx-white-gif-22429477

[mortal grail]

Ok he spoiled it

He normally does perfect runs

I'm saddened

[craggy shoal]

"MAKING MY GPU COST $400 MORE JUST BY USING PAINT (gone wrong)"

[fervent raft]

Hi

[opaque sedge]

One of those prolly costs more than a 4090 prebuilt

[cedar compass]

[mortal grail]

Wtf he's using old music in this vid too

Was this guy rushed for this vid???

[idle nexus]

remove shroud, lightly sand, & paint lol

[mortal grail]

[storm narwhal]

Sandblast shroud

Apply paint

[mortal grail]

Damn that's really detailed

[idle nexus]

https://rog.asus.com/us/graphics-cards/graphics-cards/rog-matrix/rog-matrix-rtx4090-p24g-gaming/spec/

[cedar compass]

idk why people trashing 285k just installed it and theres like 10% improvement over 14900k . it's not big but not worse either lol

[idle nexus]

25-150gb for Windows Recall? oh hell no

[mortal grail]

Cos it's worse in games

Oooooo

[idle nexus]

lol out of stonk at $5k https://www.ebay.com/itm/126785929142?

[cedar compass]

yeaj thats probably right point. I have another build for gaming with 13600kf

[mortal grail]

That mobo is just whoag

[idle nexus]

put your 14900K in it

[mortal grail]

Block go crazy

[cedar compass]

I gaming at dual qhd max settings so my cpu almost sleeping while gaming lol

[craggy shoal]

I have no experience in painting. I'd probably mess it up lol

[mortal grail]

I would put a block like that on the apex if there is one

[craggy shoal]

I could probably just print a new shroud tbh. Just have to make proper measurements

[storm narwhal]

Would spraypaint or brush painted look better on a gpu shroud

I asume spray paint would look better but idk

[cedar compass]

just use wraps lol

[craggy shoal]

nah I'll just invest in a 4080 Super (Asus doesn't make a white ROG Strix 4070 Super)

(Also, this is a joke)

[cedar compass]

white strix 5090 wen

[idle nexus]

I wonder if that one fits lol

[idle nexus]

after CES or something I think

[storm narwhal]

Imagine dbrand making skins for gpu shrouds

Just an entire gpu shroud decorated with sad linus

[idle nexus]

Z790 Extreme has one ig https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-momentum2-rog-maximus-z790-extreme-d-rgb-plexi

[mortal grail]

It's real

[cedar compass]

I think I can wrap it with vinyl easily

[mortal grail]

Miss me wit dat ek

[idle nexus]

lol I was surprised their website still works

[mortal grail]

Ahhh I want it

[storm narwhal]

I geniunely thought that was a minipc for a second

[idle nexus]

it's not on sale cuz Z890 now lol

[storm narwhal]

That's how cool it looks

[mortal grail]

Wtf not even 8 months of sale

[idle nexus]

they probably made like 500 of them

[mortal grail]

painge

Welp, guess I'm sticking with the new keyboard instead

[idle nexus]

wait

the heck is this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/335021831302?

12900TE?

[mortal grail]

LOL

[idle nexus]

those base clocks...?

[mortal grail]

12900T but E varient

No E cores

Wtf that's a new cpu

[idle nexus]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/132211/intel-core-i912900te-processor-30m-cache-up-to-4-80-ghz/specifications.html

it's real lol

Embedded Board Market Commercial Temp?

[mortal grail]

E variants are embedded systems

i.e OEM type installs

[idle nexus]

so for really fast ATM?

oh lol

[mortal grail]

Well if you can find one

They're just the same stuff but no e cores

14900KE is real

8C 16T

[velvet summit]

☠️

[idle nexus]

it has eCores?

[mortal grail]

Wait it does?

[idle nexus]

14900KE? kinda want it lol

[mortal grail]

I thought they weren't supposed to have e cores

[idle nexus]

the 12900TE does

[mortal grail]

Weird

E means embed

But like

The KE varients have no E

It's ironic naming

[craggy shoal]

link to specs?

[idle nexus]

12900TE really has a 35w tdp wth

https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/core-i9-12900te.c2569

[mortal grail]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-introduces-14th-gen-core-skus-without-e-cores-125w-core-i9-14901ke-features-8-p-cores-16-threads

[craggy shoal]

WHAT 💀

[mortal grail]

Maybe it's the 1

That might be the difference

[craggy shoal]

There's also this
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/239181/intel-core-i9-processor-14901e-36m-cache-up-to-5-60-ghz/specifications.html

[storm narwhal]

This legit sounds like news that is at least a year or more old

[mortal grail]

It's like 6 months

[storm narwhal]

oh it's actually about a year old

[mortal grail]

If you round up sure

[storm narwhal]

Well then that's a STUPID ASS NAME

[mortal grail]

Fr

[storm narwhal]

14900KE more like

14900KMS

[idle nexus]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/235995/intel-core-i9-processor-14900hx-36m-cache-up-to-5-80-ghz/specifications.html

[craggy shoal]

bruh
https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/core-i9-14901ke.c3732

[mortal grail]

Laptop

[craggy shoal]

what's the point

[mortal grail]

You can get those in china boards

[storm narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/man-watching-looking-fear-scared-gif-20121830

[mortal grail]

Lmao

[idle nexus]

I wonder if you can put it on LGA1700 like you can with the 12600/900HX

[cedar compass]

no hyperthreading

[mortal grail]

Selling unvalidated stock

[mortal grail]

Again you can get them in chinese boards

They sell laptop chips on those things\

Taobao/Aliexpress/superbuy

[idle nexus]

12600HX is like fastest 4-core or something cuz on AliExpress you can get one that sockets into LGA1700

[cedar compass]

they just selling chips that e cores are defective in process lol

[mortal grail]

Laptop bins >>>>> everything else just about lmfao

So yeah

[idle nexus]

much faster than my 12100F at least lol

stupid 12100F

[mortal grail]

They don't ship with a brain so yeah

[storm narwhal]

If anything at least that's less e-waste

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[cedar compass]

wow I can OC E cores more

I loved 285k

[idle nexus]

why not get 9800X3D tho? lol

[mortal grail]

Slow gaming cpu

[cedar compass]

not gaming lol

[mortal grail]

9800X3D 25% faster

[cedar compass]

I have 13600kf for gaming and looks like not changing it for awhile

[mortal grail]

Nyoom

[cedar compass]

I playing AAA games at max settings anyways . relying on gpu mostly

[proud jackal]

[mortal grail]

Ohp I woke the puppy

[idle nexus]

imagine if those battlemage GPUs are as good as Intel claims at those price points. You think that would finally kill 8gb vram entry GPUs?

[cedar compass]

8gb is dead even on phones already lol

since ai needs more ram vram

[mortal grail]

Next gen nvidia seems to think it won't be from memory

[idle nexus]

lol not if nvidia has anything to say about it

[opaque sedge]

Damn you got a dog

[mortal grail]

Here little theo

Catch the ball!

[opaque sedge]

💀

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-ki-yay-balls-bouncing-crazy-gif-12733777

[opaque sedge]

Does he have a toxic relationship with intel?

[idle nexus]

wym

[mortal grail]

He's having withdrawal symptoms about 285K

[idle nexus]

but muh Cinebench scores

[mortal grail]

Iirc the bus config essentially has all but confirmed the similar vram counts but could be wrong

[opaque sedge]

Happens imagine if a partner you spent decades with fell out of love for you

[idle nexus]

similar vram counts?

I kinda want a 285K eventually

run some 10000csomething

[opaque sedge]

Will 12 gigs be enough for 1440p for half a decade?

[craggy shoal]

probably. 8GB is still good enough for today's games

[craggy shoal]

balls

[idle nexus]

5 years from now? uh hard to predict I'd think

[opaque sedge]

You like balls dont you

[cedar compass]

it actually helps at render tho . I rendered project in 3 hours and 20minutes with 285k and in 4hours with 14900k

OCing E cores actaully helps

[idle nexus]

ecores on 285K are strong

can't they do like 5ghz now? I forget

[cedar compass]

just at render tho

[idle nexus]

it's just not a great gaming CPU

[opaque sedge]

True its very confusing there are games out that are very conscious abt vram usage then there are games that aren’t

[mortal grail]

Can't find enough but here's something semi relevant

[idle nexus]

but if you're not using it for that then doesn't matter

[opaque sedge]

Gow ragnarok kept crashing after an hour or two on my 4070super due to horrid vram consumption

[idle nexus]

5060 will probably be 8gb again then

[opaque sedge]

Now it consumes about 8-9 gigs

Before patches it was almost max

[idle nexus]

I think stalker2 almost maxes out 24gb with framegen

[cedar compass]

yah

[mortal grail]

Yeah here we go, all but confirmed

[opaque sedge]

If they give the 5070ti 16 gigs… they prolly wont release a 5070ti super right

[mortal grail]

GDDR7 is more efficient in data needs

So it's not really 1 to 1

[cedar compass]

32GB Vram go brrr

[idle nexus]

lol I hope they never release another GPU called "ti super"

[mortal grail]

But yeah it's all but confirmed 8gb

[storm narwhal]

So when do we get GDDR10

Man wouldn't that be weird

[opaque sedge]

Are there any gpus out that (non gaming ones) that use those gddr7 chips?

[mortal grail]

No

Maybe MIxxx or H100

Whatever revision they're on now

[opaque sedge]

Who develops these memory chips?

[mortal grail]

The naming is confusing

[idle nexus]

me

[mortal grail]

Samasong

Sumsing

Samethings

[idle nexus]

Hynix & Crucial too? I dunno

[opaque sedge]

Do gpu companies like request them to develop new chips for next gen products or do the timings of development on both ends just align?

[idle nexus]

does Crucial still make memory or did they give up yet?

[mortal grail]

They finish rnd, then open up orders to brands to order (Nvidia etc)

Same as anything else just larger scale

[opaque sedge]

So if gddr7 wasn’t finished by now the 50 series would have most likely stuck with gddr6x?

[unreal trail]

sir

[mortal grail]

Mhm

[idle nexus]

I doubt it. 50 series has been in development for how long now?

[opaque sedge]

Amd is sticking with gddr6 according to rumors right

[mortal grail]

mhm

[opaque sedge]

Samdong

[craggy shoal]

smasmung

[opaque sedge]

Samguns

American samsung

[mortal grail]

Sa-

Samasunga

[rancid juniper]

oh yea finally

[craggy shoal]

Imma be grinding Bus Simulator fr

[rancid juniper]

on his quest to be the best bus driver the city ever seen

[storm narwhal]

Finally

Does bus sim have multiplayer

Can we wreak havoc upon the unsuspecting city

[rancid juniper]

unsure

[reef grove]

Christmas came early

[storm narwhal]

Give me one

[craggy shoal]

Is that somebody's trash pile?

self hosting material frfr

[reef grove]

Yea, it’s in my neighborhood

[storm narwhal]

Time to TrueNAS one

[sage sluice]

can i move in

[reef grove]

Wifey already shot me down and said I couldn’t get them

[craggy shoal]

L wife

[storm narwhal]

Wow

Big L

[sage sluice]

divorce

[reef grove]

😭

[storm narwhal]

You're saving the poor computers from going in the dumpster

[reef grove]

If you guys saw my garage you would understand

[storm narwhal]

Also the god damn PIP fire explosion is perfectly placed on the pile of cases

[mortal grail]

That's a response that comes from a "Yes" and "Alright" too many times prior

💀

[reef grove]

That’s a response from having a full garage already cause I never used to ask 🤣

[storm narwhal]

Visual representation of what happened to them after she said no

[reef grove]

What happened to my soul

[mortal grail]

Spring is coming

[storm narwhal]

Spring cleaning

Out with the old in with the

[mortal grail]

That's autumn

[sage sluice]

hide them in the closet

[storm narwhal]

Maybe same old

[sage sluice]

ong

[mortal grail]

What you on about

[storm narwhal]

But different

Out with the old in with the maybe same old but different

[reef grove]

I literally just cleaned out our closet, she was complaining about that too, moved half of the stuff to the garage 🤣 💀

[sage sluice]

then hide them on the roof

get creative

[reef grove]

👀

[sage sluice]

jesus

[craggy shoal]

no wonder

Droq I'm sorry but I'm kind of on your wife's side lol

[storm narwhal]

That's a lot of computer

[sage sluice]

"now on the next episode of hoarders, we'd like to showcase-"

[storm narwhal]

Linus would have a two part video on this

[mortal grail]

You should hand this out instead of chocolates next halloween

"And for you little timmy, here's a CRT Television!"

[craggy shoal]

The newest thing in that stack I've noticed so far is the Keychron K4

[mortal grail]

[Drops 4kg television on a 5yo]

[sage sluice]

"and for your brother he gets a remote because i dont like his costume"

[storm narwhal]

"You failed the QTE in real life, there is no hope for you"

[mortal grail]

He starts crying about the remote even though his brother was crushed

[storm narwhal]

"Your reflexes are literally never better than they are right now and you couldn't even hit x to dodge the TV"

[reef grove]

This the newest thing out here 🤣

[sage sluice]

im becoming a keyboard snob tbh

[craggy shoal]

The best snob tbh

[mortal grail]

Bridging that gap are we

How far would you say you've crossed

60, 65?

Maybe

75?

[sage sluice]

deciding between creamy and thocc, and wanting gateron jades level of snobbery

[mortal grail]

Oooo

[reef grove]

I’m like Oprah, everyone gets a crt for Christmas

[mortal grail]

I'll always be a silent boi tho

[mortal grail]

Real

[sage sluice]

i think im more of a deep thocc

[mortal grail]

AND YOU GET A CATHODE TUBE! AND YOU GET A CATHODE TUBE!

[reef grove]

My family over here with 3 clicky keeb setups

[mortal grail]

Deep thocc galactic?

[reef grove]

WE STAY TRUE TO THE BLUE IN THIS HOUSE

CLICK CLACK

[sage sluice]

thocc and stone

[mortal grail]

THOCC AND STONE TO THA BONE

[sage sluice]

that game deserves AAA pricing tbh

but im not mad it isnt

[mortal grail]

So true, it's fun af

Gets grindy quick tho

[sage sluice]

ofc

[mortal grail]

Gotta grind all that rock and stone

💀

[sage sluice]

but its fun to just grind with the buds

[storm narwhal]

I haven't been able to rock and stone with anyone

But I have the game

[sage sluice]

i was so excited when i noticed a deep rock gun in the calamity mod for terraria

genuinely hit me like a missile

[mortal grail]

Lol

[sage sluice]

im excited to get custom keys tho at some point

gah being broke sucks lmao

[mortal grail]

I'm still waiting for my one

I have a whole game plan tho

I think I'm going to go full time with the kvm too

Gonna run black blanks on it too maybe

[storm narwhal]

This is still keyboards right

[mortal grail]

See what I think of stock

Ye

[sage sluice]

lol yeah

[mortal grail]

Bridge75

[storm narwhal]

Wow I'm lost already

[mortal grail]

It's just amazing

[storm narwhal]

I just got to try bannana switches lol

They're cool

[sage sluice]

after im done with customizing my board i wanna save up for a pair of 660s

[storm narwhal]

Sounds pretty good

[mortal grail]

https://shortcutofficial.com/

[storm narwhal]

A map!

[mortal grail]

Fully loaded board for budget

[sage sluice]

i already have one on preorder

this one

[velvet summit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/866714797160792105/1314626066987483187/e0560557-a172-4d89-acb8-b22d44b843d8.png?ex=6754746e&is=675322ee&hm=e5a2b92473b8ede0613dc9f229a1fff1441991bc031fce37703c994bb3aca28e&

[sage sluice]

interesting files

sistem of a down zelda song

the spelling mistake creates it

[velvet summit]

[pliant berry]

i saw this lol

[storm narwhal]

Once I tire of my keychron

[mortal grail]

I just can't find one in black

[sage sluice]

im tryna get away from my redragon

[mortal grail]

I really want the black lol

[sage sluice]

it sounds like springy plastic

[mortal grail]

My order would be placed if I did find one

[storm narwhal]

That's pretty much what a redragon is lol

[tranquil pebble]

That is a name I have not heard in a long while

[sage sluice]

i might actually try ceramic keycaps

im interested

[storm narwhal]

Ceramic?

That's a new one to me

[sage sluice]

theyre a bit more muted and thoccy

[velvet summit]

lmao

[sage sluice]

https://www.cerakey.com/products/full-set-v2?variant=41532871540875

theyre also pricey as hell

good ones at least

[craggy shoal]

I want ceramic key caps sooo bad

[storm narwhal]

I'd imagine

[craggy shoal]

Easy thocc

[sage sluice]

fr

[storm narwhal]

I really would think it's rigidity would make it worse

[sage sluice]

oh not at all

[storm narwhal]

They make knives and teeth outta that stuff

But god damnit that's cool

[sage sluice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXwfIaVPBgs

[mortal grail]

I'm such a stinge now

I could never spend this much on that

I know it'd never last

💀

[sage sluice]

oh i could never spend that much on keycaps ever

but i can dream

[mortal grail]

Maybe I yield to another board

I feel like I'm gonna wait forever for this HE

[sage sluice]

did you order one too lol

[mortal grail]

I can't

They're all sold out

[sage sluice]

on divinikey theres a new shipment in january

[mortal grail]

Except for one place that's advertised as a scam

January

That must be everyone cos everyone is out of stock

[sage sluice]

after waiting 6 months for my 8bitdo 2c i have gained ultimate patience

[sage sluice]

hey if its out of stock that speaks to its quality at least

on drop there are 241 people with it on email

[velvet summit]

only 6 months

[mortal grail]

If only there was SOMEWHERE I COULD SPEND ALL THIS MONEY

[velvet summit]

it took over a year for me to get my ibm model f reproduction

[mortal grail]

Anyway that's how shortcutstudio probably doesn't imagine it's clients

[sage sluice]

me fr fr

ill uh make you a taco

yeah

[velvet summit]

and it took about like 10 months or whatever to get my slimevr trackers

[sage sluice]

thats about all i can offer

[sage sluice]

ripp

was it off amazon?

[velvet summit]

from slimevr

well, crowdsupply

[mortal grail]

Tbh the white is growing on me

Silver sorry

[velvet summit]

he's turning white guys

[sage sluice]

the blue on the silver is so nice

goes really well

[mortal grail]

Ok

Do me a solid here

[sage sluice]

id be more scared if it was turning silver tbh

[mortal grail]

Find me a really nice, white desk pad

And maybe a matching keyboard rest

I'll do the silver

I've tried

[velvet summit]

maybe you're becoming bulletproof

[sage sluice]

damn im bein put to work

[mortal grail]

I can't ask for a favour here once in a while

[velvet summit]

get in the mines

[mortal grail]

I save people thousands daily

THIS IS INJUSTICE

[velvet summit]

we need more lithium

[sage sluice]

you didnt even give me a chance to speak!

[mortal grail]

Anw guess I'll look again

[sage sluice]

challenge excepted old man

i cant speak

accepted

[mortal grail]

I was already running away with the bit

Side quest

[velvet summit]

you can run at your age?

[sage sluice]

how would you feel about a custom leather mousepad from somebody in my area?

[mortal grail]

If you find something to match this

I'll also take that

[mortal grail]

Brother I live in Australia

[sage sluice]

ill link them one sec

oh LMAO

[mortal grail]

[sage sluice]

australians amirite

[mortal grail]

💀

[velvet summit]

fake country

[sage sluice]

read my status

[mortal grail]

AHHHH

Ok I'm bought

[sage sluice]

swag

[mortal grail]

Bruv you'll get that modded

💀

[sage sluice]

link it to me

[mortal grail]

?

It's just a pic

[sage sluice]

oh what!

i couldnt tell

[mortal grail]

Find me a white desk pad that looks minimalistic

No branding

I'll go silver HE

[sage sluice]

oh is that the silver?

[mortal grail]

Not sure maybe cream+white

I like tho

[velvet summit]

here have this razer mouspad frfr

[sage sluice]

i didnt know what swag keys was 🥹

[mortal grail]

I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG MUH DESK PADS ARE

95 DOLLAS?

[velvet summit]

measure in frogs

[mortal grail]

[velvet summit]

how many frogs long is it

[sage sluice]

https://grovemade.com/product/wool-felt-desk-pad/?initial=475

if youve got money

lol

fancy pants desk pad right there

[mortal grail]

Nice

Twice the cost of the keeb

[velvet summit]

you need a good foundation

[sage sluice]

im tryna find something obviously better

[mortal grail]

Yes

Dimensions

[sage sluice]

does ikea ship in australia? 💀
https://www.ikea.com

wait

insane link

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/ploeja-desk-pad-white-clear-10520892/

[mortal grail]

Yo?

Ah yes

Change region

And I'm back at the homepage

Still in america

It wouldn't be ikea if it wasn't clearly confusing

[sage sluice]

Fr

[velvet summit]

when the site is a maze

[mortal grail]

I like the price

[sage sluice]

Its just like the store

[mortal grail]

But it's the wrong size

[mortal grail]

It's so real

Oh nvm

It's plastic

Bleh

Gimmeh cloth

[sage sluice]

Lol didn't realize

I'll look again

Reddit here i come!!

[mortal grail]

Thinking about it

[sage sluice]

That logo in the corner would be a game ender for me

Goofy aa

[mortal grail]

Ya I hate that

That's the only thing stopping me

[sage sluice]

https://youtu.be/aDMsGl_XxTk

Thats what it reminds me of

[mortal grail]

Classy

Apparently

[sage sluice]

Hm

[mortal grail]

💀

There's a surprising lack of brands on amazon

You know what

I can make the glorious ones work

I know how to hide the logos

[icy ore]

[dusk knot]

Looks good

The price is concerning tho

[mortal grail]

What the hell

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-emotional-damage-meme-funny-gif-24332819

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-what-the-hell-gif-21811925

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-taking-glasses-off-stoopid-gif-24983995

https://tenor.com/view/meme-jesus-i-will-send-you-to-jesus-gif-25817244

[elfin mural]

rgb mouse pad

[frigid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/more-rgb-equals-more-fps-ashwin-ganesh-c4etech-more-fps-better-performance-gif-18317522

Bro this gif is like 120 fps 💀

[elfin mural]

buttery smooth

it feels like those 80's videos

[rancid juniper]

Lol

[mortal grail]

Nah man you need a Ryzen 4070

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[dusk knot]

Nvidia hasn't announced anything yet....

[rancid juniper]

L

[dusk knot]

I'm tired.

[mortal grail]

Stay up a little longer

Any-

[misty sparrow]

I'm tired too.

[mortal grail]

Any minute now

Any minute now Nvidia will announce something

You miss 100% of the announcements you don't stay awake for

[nocturne flicker]

Announcing the new 6090 for $5000

Now sleep

[dusk knot]

Need that 19gb 5080

[misty sparrow]

5% faster than 5090 in raw power, 125% faster in DLSS 6.0

[dusk knot]

Lol

[mortal grail]

I hate how realistic this is

[misty sparrow]

well thats because it is

they're focusing more on the AI stuff rather than raw power now

[dusk knot]

Soon DlSS will have to be streamed from the cloud while your GPU barely has any rasterization power.

[mortal grail]

In the could

Rasteur-

[nocturne flicker]

Da could

[mortal grail]

Pasteurized power

It's gone milky bois

[dusk knot]

👀

[misty sparrow]

and with devs being lazy and using DLSS as a requirement instead of it being used alongside raw power, it's probably not going to get better

[mortal grail]

Too late it's cemented in the annals of Wegg

[rancid juniper]

1440p low + dlss performance as a minimum requirement

[rancid juniper]

Raster ❌
Ai ✅

[mortal grail]

You know what's next

DLSS for the ai

Super ai

[rancid juniper]

🤢

[dusk knot]

In the future GPUs will be small

Because all of the power is from the cloud

[mortal grail]

They said this about smartphones and they were so wrong

[dusk knot]

On a subscription service

[mortal grail]

Ima stop you right there

[rancid juniper]

Nah they'll still find a way to make em bigger than the 4090

[mortal grail]

GPUs are gonna get so big they will be the case

And everything else goes in

[rancid juniper]

Literally, 5090 is rumored to be 600w+

Definitely quad slot already

[dusk knot]

My poor 850w PSU

[mortal grail]

Don't worry, 6090 comes with a 1200W one

Gigabyte P-GM v2

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-pc-explosion-pc-burn-pc-fire-computer-gif-2323271670262777828

[dusk knot]

Would be nice if Nvidia implemented built-in PSUs. Smh. I can't always upgrade them every time. Smh

Smh

[dusk knot]

Thanks, Nvidia

With no extra charge whatever, right?

[mortal grail]

Starting at 2999

The more you buy

The more you save

[dusk knot]

Wise

[rancid juniper]

It's kinda crazy to think about tho... A gpu sipping up to 600w at stock and my system (with all components loaded on occt) goes up to around 570w

[mortal grail]

Not really

Every morning my GPU ramps up to 550W