general-chat

[idle nexus]

higher resolution = more GPU load iirc

[mortal grail]

Brother forgets I both owned a 3090 and use a 6900XT on the daily

[idle nexus]

hence, reviewers test games at 1080p for CPU reviews

[dusk knot]

Oof

[mortal grail]

5090 will be a 4K card

[idle nexus]

my 3080ti is off rn. It's relaxing

[mortal grail]

Any less than that and it's a joke

[dusk knot]

For the next 2 years at most 🤔

[mortal grail]

Do you still talk to safi

Lmfao

[opaque sedge]

So 1440p cyberpunk ray traced with over 200 frames is still a couple generations away?

[dusk knot]

No

[mortal grail]

Throw cyberpunk in the mix and you create any bottleneck you want

Cpu gpu ram it'll do them all 💀💀

[opaque sedge]

So

Its a tech demo

…

My life has been a lie

[mortal grail]

If I'm still over here enjoying a 4K120 experience on both my XTX and my 4090 what does that tell you about the 5090

[mortal grail]

Ding ding

Good tech demo tho

Started off digusting

[opaque sedge]

A sad one

[mortal grail]

I remember playing that game at 4K when it came out on the 3080

[misty sparrow]

alright i'll look into the G2724D

[mortal grail]

Crashing every hour

This was before I realised 1440p made more sense and got an odyssey

[misty sparrow]

there was another coolermaster monitor that was posted in tech-deals, but that's probably gone anyway

[dusk knot]

🤔 that you're not playing the most demanding games and/or not playing at the max settings

[mortal grail]

XV275U P3 is considerably better, look into it

[mortal grail]

There's your problem maam

If you know how to tailor a game then you don't need max

[dusk knot]

Max settings or I lose it

[misty sparrow]

But it's VA, that a bad thing or?

[mortal grail]

Smh

[mortal grail]

Mini led VA >>>> any ips

[opaque sedge]

Mini led va is kinda different

[idle nexus]

btw thanks to your inspiring words, I kept trying & beat best score by almost 2 seconds--no idea how

[mortal grail]

The one thing safi imparted on us, before he was banned for gaslighting the server, go look up DF optimisation videos

[opaque sedge]

Doesn’t have the ghosting issues like normal VA but has incredible blacks and color contrast and hdr also looks good on it apparently

[mortal grail]

They teach you max settings is dumb af

[opaque sedge]

Unlike ips…

[opaque sedge]

Who’s safi?

[dusk knot]

Ok

[mortal grail]

An idiot

[dusk knot]

Before your time

[mortal grail]

He was a guy who said a 4090 wasn't enough for 1080p

That should tell you a lot

Also hated tf out of AMD for no reason whatsoever

[opaque sedge]

What the heck was he tryna run

[rancid juniper]

ngl i always find him as a troll

[mortal grail]

Then became an X3D simp

[rancid juniper]

😂

[mortal grail]

Same but it took months to get any ban on him going

[rancid juniper]

true

[opaque sedge]

Do u guys have any screenshots?

[rancid juniper]

we had to deal with his questionable takes

[mortal grail]

That fine line between being a genuine troll, and just a gaslighting arguer

[opaque sedge]

Sounds like the type of dude to burst out in madness when faced with disagreement

[mortal grail]

Search safi you'll find a year of stuff

[rancid juniper]

bingo

😂

[mortal grail]

No

Just safi

The list is long

[dusk knot]

I hope we didn't delete their logs

[rancid juniper]

[opaque sedge]

Holy duck

[rancid juniper]

safi in a nutshell

[mortal grail]

The dude lives on twitter now, some servers lurk his account for his stupid takes

[opaque sedge]

So this is where jps obsession for path tracing came from

[mortal grail]

And I mean that not in a respectful way btw

Bro's considered a joke in so many places

[dusk knot]

👀

[misty sparrow]

oh wow i think i found the monitor on acer's refurbished on ebay...but 32"

[mortal grail]

And I'd be nice about it but he will refuse to listen to anyone so

He earned it

Made his own bed

💀

[mortal grail]

We nearly lost JP to the darkness

[misty sparrow]

he either would've been lost to the darkness by that, or by OLED's perfect blacks

[idle nexus]

I got kicked from nvidia discord for talking crap when cryptominers figured out how to beat LHR lol

[dusk knot]

I'm lost to the OLED darkness

[rancid juniper]

when JP saw OLED he got addicted real quick

[idle nexus]

worth it tho. I'd do it again

[opaque sedge]

Not sure abt that boss man

[mortal grail]

I agree with your OLED obsession only provided the screen isn't cranked above 400 nits

[dusk knot]

Indeed

[opaque sedge]

Bruh i just noticed compoopers message 💀

[idle nexus]

heck maybe I should try pathtracing on cyberpunk. I think that's the only game I have that supports it

[rancid juniper]

...

dont mind me i uh

[mortal grail]

Whip out the HoF

[opaque sedge]

He’s one of the copers

[dusk knot]

But true perfection is on the iPad OLED.....it's beyond glorious....

[mortal grail]

I haven't seen that

How new is it

[rancid juniper]

now he can make art at 4k super color or whatever

[mortal grail]

M3? M4?

[dusk knot]

1000 nits ... constant...no dimming

M4

[mortal grail]

If either then not seen it

[mortal grail]

Does it not burn in tho

Doesn't mean anything if it does

[opaque sedge]

Burned an impression of deez nuts onyo face

[mortal grail]

People got excited over the switch and steam deck oleds and both burnt in after a few months

Means nothing to me if the screen is vaporware

[opaque sedge]

Has the steam deck oled ever gone on sale?

[mortal grail]

Think so

Not for much tho

450?

[opaque sedge]

@mortal grail are u gonna get a deck now that its available in aus?

Or do u alr have one

[velvet summit]

10000 nits

get sunburnt from your monitor

[dusk knot]

It's supposed to be more durable than any other OLED on the market due to its dual paneling. Less heat and voltage is being used which therefore minimizing pixel degradation... meaning less of likelihood of burnin.

[mortal grail]

I became no longer in any need of one after a few months, I preordered a handheld, later I learned how to make things work without one

Cancelled it

[opaque sedge]

Why does this sound strangely familiar…

[mortal grail]

Interesting, but in principle vs practice is important

QD OLED promised the world but it took 2 years to perfect

[dusk knot]

What...that's my own words.

[mortal grail]

Also the iPad itself needs sufficient dissipation

OLED tech gets hot af

[opaque sedge]

Aren’t the new ipads like thin af?

[mortal grail]

If they don't have good enough cooling, rip

[opaque sedge]

Does not sound good

[mortal grail]

And fanless

[dusk knot]

About as thin as a type c male port

[mortal grail]

Ever wonder why OLED monitors have huge square boxes behind the screen?

Most of that is heatsink

[opaque sedge]

Cases make the thing run even hotten right?

[mortal grail]

For the screen

[mortal grail]

The ALU shell helps it

But again, needs enough

Begs the question

[opaque sedge]

I remember seeing a reddit post where a dude waterblocked his monitor 😭

[mortal grail]

💀💀 based jank approach

[opaque sedge]

Apparently there were blocks made for that specific model of the monitor on top too

[dusk knot]

I mean yeah. You still have to vary what you display on your screen to stay on the safe side.

[mortal grail]

Ya so if it's not got any good measures for that then it's just another phone AMOLED screen really

Which for the niche...not bad

[dusk knot]

It's better

[mortal grail]

But for tech-wise, nothing new

[mortal grail]

If it doesn't actually offer anything it's a red herring

[dusk knot]

AMOLED is not stacked

[opaque sedge]

I found the post i think he posts a pic of the monitor somewhere down the comments after peeps question the title

https://www.reddit.com/r/watercooling/s/Htb4aYdp7w

[mortal grail]

You're right but if it's not any better then it's just another normal screen

[opaque sedge]

💀

[dusk knot]

Brighter sustained brightness is the real advantage

[mortal grail]

Wtf IT LOOKS SO GOOD WHY

[opaque sedge]

Oh god he’s gonna do it too now

[mortal grail]

Just get qd-oled or qled then

[dusk knot]

Not with that tinting

[mortal grail]

Tinting gone by gen 2

[opaque sedge]

The comments killed me tho

[dusk knot]

I haven't seen it in person , Felix

But LG OLED best

[mortal grail]

[dusk knot]

I will shill for LG

Samsung bad

[mortal grail]

Just saying, it can be cool tech but if the end result means nothing then

[dusk knot]

Oversaturated

[opaque sedge]

“Dear god he wasn’t kidding” 😭

[mortal grail]

LMFAO

[idle nexus]

what you need is 480hz LG OLED https://www.lg.com/us/ces2024/lg-ultragear-oled-gaming-monitors

[mortal grail]

I love pixellated 32" 1080p

[dusk knot]

What I need is more powerful GPU to get 480fps

[mortal grail]

Cpu*

[dusk knot]

Right right

🤔

Both

[mortal grail]

Cpu

[idle nexus]

but muh oleds

[dusk knot]

No both

[mortal grail]

Cpu

[dusk knot]

[mortal grail]

[dusk knot]

[opaque sedge]

These comments are too funny man 😭

[mortal grail]

Any toaster can run 600fps ow2 but the cpu with it determines how close it gets

[dusk knot]

Right right

But my heart wants both

[mortal grail]

Cpu and gpu render are two halves of a whole

[dusk knot]

Yes, Mr.techie

[rancid juniper]

i like when my pc goes whirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[opaque sedge]

They really thought he was trolling 😭

[dusk knot]

That's scary. I would immediately unplug my computer

[mortal grail]

ASRock challenger moment

[rancid juniper]

NA I LIKE IT WHEN MY FANS RAMP UP, YOU WOULDN'T GET IT

[dusk knot]

And check where the heck that noise is coming from

[rancid juniper]

lol

[opaque sedge]

U have a dual fan card?

[rancid juniper]

yuh

its gud

[opaque sedge]

Mine’s technically 2.5

[mortal grail]

EVERYONE DOES IT, MOM!!

[opaque sedge]

Since the shroud is so small

[rancid juniper]

✅

[devout forum]

is only having 2 fans truly that awful?

[idle nexus]

waterblock ftw

0 fans best fans

[opaque sedge]

For the 4070super ik most stay pretty chill

But that might be attributed to its low power draw

[rancid juniper]

nah not really

[mortal grail]

Ask me that when it's 1 fan

[rancid juniper]

XD

[idle nexus]

uh Felix

this is strange

[mortal grail]

Hi

[rancid juniper]

what

[devout forum]

Alright deshroud mods your GPU, slaps a Noctua fan on it

How is it?

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/what-question-gif-20642719

[mortal grail]

2 sensor programs open?

[idle nexus]

why would CPU report 116.9C?

lol not that I know of

[mortal grail]

Now it's bad

[devout forum]

Oh well

[idle nexus]

I pretty much leave hwinfo on system tray all the time

[mortal grail]

Is it benchmate

[devout forum]

You got the good stuff

[idle nexus]

so these are there

[mortal grail]

Hey is it benchmate

[idle nexus]

ig it got pretty spicy at some point in the last 16 hours

lol no that was 13900KS not on here

[mortal grail]

Oh

[rancid juniper]

13900ks curses his AMD cpu

this is wild

[mortal grail]

It's likely an incorrect sensor

The cpu sensors are so close together that a 45C difference is just misreporting

[north crescent]

Then there is me, QDOLED at like 45 nits for standard usage and 1000 nits for content consumption usage.

[opaque sedge]

What are the benefits of having cpu be significantly under the thermal limit? Like my 7800x3d for example in high util scenarios like cyberpunk at 50% goes to 75C would i see any benefit to having it be cooler? Like more longevity or smth? Considering how it cant be overclocked

[mortal grail]

See this, this is the perfect man

[idle nexus]

something has to be borked

no way VSOC hit 2.540v

[proud jackal]

[idle nexus]

tho that would explain 116.9C lmao

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/unus-annus-markiplier-favorite-green-screen-meme-i-think-about-this-every-day-gif-540335293201984056

[north crescent]

It's even funnier when I rarely game or watch stuff that I do 1000 nits for

[mortal grail]

Telling you it's misreporting

[idle nexus]

I uninstalled that nvidia app

stupid thing kept changing settings in games for me

drove me bananas

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

[north crescent]

But watching dolby Arcane on it is nice tho

[opaque sedge]

So? Nada?

[proud jackal]

OH THE MISSERY

[idle nexus]

I mean people on like reddit & such are always so proud of themselves when their CPU stays really cool all the time since apparently they wanna stay on that CPU for the next 10 years

[rancid juniper]

me rn

[proud jackal]

X870e boards should last a decade right?

AM8?

AM9?

[idle nexus]

they say things like, "oMg mY iDLE teMPs aRe sOOo goOOd"

[opaque sedge]

Pcmr?

[idle nexus]

lol you have a legitimate concern cuz Intel 13th gen & what not ig

[rancid juniper]

run prime95, they'll see how hot they can truly get

[mortal grail]

It could be better? Could be worse? Who knows

[rancid juniper]

that and its just too much of a power sipper

[idle nexus]

my idle temps are like 26C when my computer is off so who cares

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons8ball-deez-nuts-8ball-make-a-wish-merps-gif-26138412

[opaque sedge]

This must be karma…

[proud jackal]

MAGNETS

HOW DO THEY WORK

[idle nexus]

oh wow it's like a tempurpedic bed for your wrists

kinda jealous ngl

[opaque sedge]

Same

[idle nexus]

my wrist pad has started tearing so it'll be junk in like 2 months

but at least I have a number pad lol

[mortal grail]

Now your AMD PC can feel even faster

[rancid juniper]

take a shot anytime sore says deez nuts

[proud jackal]

8K POLLING KEEB, 8K POLLING MOUSE

[mortal grail]

Inb4 stuttering

[random osprey]

TIME TO GAIN 8K ELO IN VAL

[weak cedar]

keyboard subscription service, new keyboard each year

[opaque sedge]

Hey hey hey i still need you guys alive by the time i can make a decent living so i can ask how to plug in the power switch cables in the middle of the night again

[rancid juniper]

[idle nexus]

lol you can get a free NZedXT keyboard with your rental PC for only $3228/year

[proud jackal]

guess ill kms faster

[north crescent]

♪ EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE MY ENEMY ♪

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-black-guy-gif-5750196720983083288

[mortal grail]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/0oqzcCweJs

[opaque sedge]

They didn’t use it in their tweet sadly 😔

Are tweets still called tweets in x?

[idle nexus]

I bet AI is already advanced enough to generate these nonsense corporate apologies in seconds

[mortal grail]

There's literally a whole Reddit thread doing this

[opaque sedge]

Should have tried apple intelligence ngl

Oh its on beta

And waitlist

[idle nexus]

LOL perfect

[sinful blade]

Oooo, a $5 mouse

Fakest apology ever

[mortal grail]

Cos it is

Lmao

[sinful blade]

I know

But it’s just a bad fake lmao

[pseudo patrol]

rental pcs are a thing? 😂

i guess nobody wants a starter setup these days lol

[idle nexus]

lol watch GN video on YT

technically I can't share it here cuz he uses profanity I think but ya it's their latest

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah he did

Oops

Well it's easy enough to find

[pseudo patrol]

hr video

holy

[velvet summit]

honestly the funniest part of that gn analysis video is that they didnt actually even check the id of the fake person they used

even though it's "required"

they're just that desperate

[mortal grail]

Not a minute of it is worth trimming tbh

There's so much in there

[fading peak]

hi

[pseudo patrol]

I like the key details it has

very informational

[velvet summit]

First few minutes summaries it and the rest of the video goes into further detail

If you just want a short ish summary, watch the first bit of the video
If you want to learn all the details, watch the whole video

[wise haven]

ugh my friend pc still lags on fortnite :/

[mortal grail]

Rip

But what is his specs like

Playing chinese whispers won't help him or us to help

[mortal grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/397911428679598087/1313416244241764392/FB_IMG_1733213195557.jpg?ex=67500db2&is=674ebc32&hm=d84185ae98cce5bf452c35a6b22b2b30aa0bacbe643219e084af3cf287acbb1c&

[remote geode]

crazy

https://www.intc.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1719/intel-announces-retirement-of-ceo-pat-gelsinger

did a coup just happen

(late to the news, i know, i just got off work)

[nocturne flicker]

Standard business stuff. Board doesn't like current state of affairs, pressures CEO to resign to change company direction, CEO gracefully uses their golden parachute and a temp CEO (or in this case, CEOs) takes over until they can appoint a new one

[wise haven]

3080 gpu idk whats his cpu

not his mouse I dont think so only had 1k polling

[mortal grail]

CPU is important as is ram capacity

[wise haven]

I asked him whats his ram but hes too scare to " overdrive it"

but I think it is 16gb or 32

not really sure

but he was playing valorant and had 200 fps

[mortal grail]

Need to know what it is

[wise haven]

no lag

[mortal grail]

I can't work with vague answers

Sorry lad

There's an enormous difference between 16 and 32gb

And even any cpu could make a wild difference

I need full specifics

[wise haven]

I will ask him tomorrow

[mortal grail]

For example if he has 16gb and he runs discord, fortnite and maybe spotify or youtube, that can overcap the ram if he has tons of stuff open in the background

[wise haven]

he had the same thing for fortnight where you need to downgrade the driver told him to do ddu but he doesn't want too

[mortal grail]

I have like, 5% of things that help me know what's happening

[mortal grail]

DDU would be the obvious first step

If he's afraid to do that then many fixes likely will be too scary for him

[wise haven]

true

[mortal grail]

DDU's not too hard is it? Like 10 minutes

Many direct fixes go beyond 10 for stuff like this

If he has a ram issue it could take hours of testing

[wise haven]

naw not really hard I can even help him guide him but im guessing hes has a share computer or too lazy to do it

[mortal grail]

Well either way he won't get anywhere without making an effort for himself

Playing chinese whispers with you in the middle complicates it a lot as well

[atomic mist]

Did he do the mouse thing lol

[wise haven]

the polling rate

yeah max it could go is 1k

[atomic mist]

Yeah

[wise haven]

and I made him go to 250

still nothing

[atomic mist]

Ah it’s a 1st gen g pro

1k is the lowest id tell people to go

[wary fjord]

I wonder if those age detection are accurate

[wary fjord]

Lets gooo they are Both alive

[nocturne flicker]

Bro is 41k years old, let him rest

[wary fjord]

XD

[atomic mist]

Just get two evo plus and run them in raid 0.

It’ll be fun

[frigid stag]

get the pro or sn850x

the evo isnt good no dram

early christmas huh

oh

oh right

id get a 990 pro then or sn850x

iirc 990 pro is slightly brtter

uh idk about psus much

[frigid stag]

i think corsair has some good ones like rm1000x

superflower has decent ones too

i think they have white

same with coolermaster

[mortal grail]

[atomic mist]

not even raid 0 nvme’s

[atomic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-is-even-gif-20535402

[kind verge]

im an idiot

i bought an h9 flow thinking it had those majestic argb ring fans

but when it arrived it didnt even have a fan hub so i could only use 2 fans

now that i got the nzxt fan hub, be quiet fan hub + be quiet ring fans 3i realized that the h9 flow fans arent even rgbù

i got my h9 flow for 140 for black friday now the h9 elite costs 260 in my country

cuz i read on the reviews that it came with the fans and the hub but i didnt read that it was talking about the elite 😭

and the elite was 220 at that time

guess im making a nightmare build ( no rgb ) till flipping goes well

[kind verge]

then ill buy more be quiet or nzxt fans

yeah i have to build a pc for my friend and make a 200 euro profit

the ring ones are 80 bucks with an included fan hub its not that big of a deal

sadly im in italy and cant order from newegg

alr

https://www.amazon.it/TZMRIT-Doppio-specchio-infinito-ventola/dp/B0D99W3D7G/ref=sr_1_6?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&nsdOptOutParam=true&sr=8-6 i found these

[hoary zodiac]

What is going on here

[kind verge]

the knock off lian li fans brand

[kind verge]

i bought an h9 flow thinking it had those majestic ring fans and a hub included but allat was in the elite version

[hoary zodiac]

you

Bought an nzxt case

[kind verge]

yeah?

[hoary zodiac]

Bad news

They are not exactly known for having good thermals

[kind verge]

i alr have some be quiet fans i just gotta install them

[hoary zodiac]

Oh wait

It's one of those o11 knockoffs

No no no

[kind verge]

but i think imma get all be quiet they look sick and dont cost a kidney

[hoary zodiac]

You're mistaken

That's not a bad thing

That means the thermals won't be abysmal like other nzxt cases

[kind verge]

https://www.amazon.it/quiet-illuminazione-ottimizzate-pressione-turbolenze/dp/B09KMBLGV5/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&nsdOptOutParam=true&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

[hoary zodiac]

Why do they cost so much

[kind verge]

cuz im in italy and pc parts are like 2x more expensive

[frigid stag]

rgb

if you want cheap get p12 arctic

or delta fans for max airflow

[kind verge]

and i mean, there are some other fans but theyre all core fans i really like the ring style

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.amazon.it/ARCTIC-P12-PWM-RGB-Pacco/dp/B08Y8N5J89/ref=mp_s_a_1_26?crid=1M75YETW5S30T&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.iMFJLq482AiZ0lTGhBiwJVjsU5HmjT4rmfKW3Xd3FuWWNHjrjM9pgcjesKTXAd-3TKO0F2SvG_ekHnFrfBoSR77tBa4Hy-AO9HRJRqiWCSYGMxm4Q2O3jx13IgR4_qBu9jddVT0GuRlqu7bRKARjJRgKeFcQnxmE8dEwY6VBRm9SbzFCfSMaGrqrxaLkMqmGfqYjdlse9wCy3qpjSeNOiQ.DkoPwTLNZbTzsxPuvzlWGzzTQN72VNzzdJiAE2_RS1c&dib_tag=se&keywords=arctic+p12&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1733230791&sprefix=arctic+p%2Caps%2C362&sr=8-26

[frigid stag]

Holy long link

😭

[kind verge]

i have a gif that has a link thats over a page long

[frigid stag]

[kind verge]

depends, which specs do you currently have, do you plan on upgrading, are they modular

[frigid stag]

nzxt has white psus

theyre good

oh

lian li?

they also got psus

[kind verge]

well it shouldnt explode its gold

[frigid stag]

oh the rent a pc

[hoary zodiac]

WHAT

[frigid stag]

it literally says RENT

[unreal trail]

750 W

[hoary zodiac]

it's anything BUT obvious

[frigid stag]

[hoary zodiac]

They change the specifications every couple days

[frigid stag]

if people cant read that it says rent then idk

[hoary zodiac]

For once I'm agreeing with daniela

[mortal grail]

It has worse cost p.a than criminal loans

It's a scam

[unreal trail]

I rented a PC once

[hoary zodiac]

When the most diehard NZXT fan calls it a scam

It's a scam

[unreal trail]

they thought I was gonna actually pay it off lol

[mortal grail]

They don't do valid checks on people's credit history, it's a scam

They lie about the specs, it's a scam

[hoary zodiac]

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/product/x3Kscf/thermalright-tl-c12c-s-x5-6617-cfm-120-mm-fans-5-pack-tl-c12c-s-x5

[frigid stag]

If it says rent then its obvious what youre getting into. Its a rip off sure

[hoary zodiac]

Found cheaper fans

[wary fjord]

true i feel its not a scam.. xD its a rent for a reason and u can quit anytime..

u know what that rent good for? an event if u guys have even on that month and need pc to control stuff

xD

[unreal trail]

I have a couple sticks of RAM for rent

[mortal grail]

You don't rent to own, you must return after paying multiple times over the price after 2 years, it's a scam

[frigid stag]

yeah exactly i feel like people dont read much when buying . If it says rent its obvious you wont keep it

[wary fjord]

its like renting a house lol

[frigid stag]

Fr

[wary fjord]

not all can affortd house

[mortal grail]

They try to contract you out of statute of limitations which is not only illegal but predatory, scam-like behaviour

[wary fjord]

yet they keep renting

[hoary zodiac]

Have you guys seen all the fine print

[frigid stag]

it says its rent not finance

[unreal trail]

Land Contract

[hoary zodiac]

It's a scam in the sense that it is 100% created to screw over whoever consumes the "product"

[wary fjord]

i cant imagine myself renting a house tho xD i feel its too much money in long run

[unreal trail]

every TOS does this

[mortal grail]

I'm amazed you can still defend this when kids can sign up for it without proper credit checks

[mortal grail]

It's worse when the APR is over 100% interest

[hoary zodiac]

case?

[mortal grail]

This isn't some web browser

[unreal trail]

lol

[wary fjord]

the scam part of nzxt is not the rent part.. its the "SWAPPING PARTS" and keeping the "BENCHMARK" results the same

[unreal trail]

ah yes usury

[hoary zodiac]

This

That is actually fraudulent

[elfin mural]

that is fraudulent yes

[hoary zodiac]

There is no question

It is a scam

[elfin mural]

criminals at nzxt

smh

[wary fjord]

yes

[mortal grail]

There are multiple reasons this is a scam

[unreal trail]

[mortal grail]

This is by far the worst one

[hoary zodiac]

Spiritually and literally a scam

[wary fjord]

but the "rent" part is perfectly fine.. u can rent a family in japan

xD

[elfin mural]

allowing KIDS to sign up for loans

is insane

[unreal trail]

rent a gf

[mortal grail]

Especially when they're the damn target market

[wary fjord]

should not be approved ngl

[hoary zodiac]

You can literally take a high interest loan and buy a pc and it'll still be cheaper

[wary fjord]

no consent?

how does that work

[elfin mural]

consent is asking their parents for permission ig

[mortal grail]

The check service doesn't perform a proper check

[elfin mural]

and what's worse is

some parents have no idea that it's a scam

[mortal grail]

You can sign up with a false identity and not upload any ID, you still get approved

[elfin mural]

because they haven't read the fine print

or that they lack knowledge

[mortal grail]

This is basic rental protection for BOTH sides

And they don't do it properly

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair people are dumb and don't do proper research

When THAT much money is involved it is the least they should do

[elfin mural]

oh yeah

you can just scam nzxt back with such a loose check system in place

[hoary zodiac]

That is literally rent worths of money

[wary fjord]

we have estimated money now how much to advertise on gamer nexus xD for a year... its 26k

[mortal grail]

Doesn't excuse the allowance of criminally bad behaviour

[hoary zodiac]

Oh no

Not to be fair to nzxt

[elfin mural]

that's the funny part

[mortal grail]

Burn it all down

[elfin mural]

imagine people banking on nzxt rentals lmao

[wary fjord]

nzxt is crumbling now

[elfin mural]

cuz they used fraud

[wary fjord]

but they did that to themselves

[hoary zodiac]

Bad wording

More like

[elfin mural]

provide false info

[mortal grail]

They also have infringed on false advertising laws

[elfin mural]

get pc

don't pay

[hoary zodiac]

Dumb consumers is why companies can get away with this

[mortal grail]

There's so much wrong with it

[atomic mist]

Eh nzxt will survive somehow

[elfin mural]

and disappear into the air

[mortal grail]

I could care less for a rental

However THAT rental

Kill it

With fire

I'm stunned people are defending this even remotely

[hoary zodiac]

NZXT's been making mediocre cases but I didn't think they'd be capable of this

[mortal grail]

It just proves the video not being watched

[mortal grail]

Everyone was blindsided

[wary fjord]

yeah i saw that they have shady fine prints

[hoary zodiac]

I used to put them on the same level of corsair

[atomic mist]

Oof I didn’t realize they were being defended at all

[hoary zodiac]

Now they're on the same level as artesianbuilds

[frigid stag]

im not defending it, i dont even like nzxt much, im just saying its pretty obvious its to rent not to buy. You can take a lot of things on finance anyway just with a bank card

[hoary zodiac]

That is the whole selling point

They look nice but they're hot

[mortal grail]

Every single person I've met so far who has are doing it either because they hate GN's new content streak or they've never watched the video

[mortal grail]

Again, KIDS.

[craggy shoal]

Good morning weggers

[wary fjord]

will u defend nzxt if they gave u 4090?

xD

[frigid stag]

dont you need a debit card?

[hoary zodiac]

No

[wary fjord]

how about 2 4090

with 9800x3d

[mortal grail]

Do you think ANY kid is capable of proper financial discretion?

Absolutely wrong take

[craggy shoal]

Absolutely not

[hoary zodiac]

Really

[wary fjord]

daniel is sold out

[hoary zodiac]

That's worth like

[wary fjord]

xD

[hoary zodiac]

3K at most

That's way too little to buy me

Buy me a house maybe lol

[frigid stag]

theres not much checks apart from the card details

[wary fjord]

hahaha

[hoary zodiac]

Kids do not exactly read the fine print

[mortal grail]

Again, APR, 108%

KIDS

NO CHECKS

AT ALL

[wary fjord]

ok a house with bricks made out of 4090.. @hoary zodiac will u defend now?

[mortal grail]

FAKE ID

[hoary zodiac]

Rent is expensive 😭

[hoary zodiac]

AHAHAHAHA NZXT HOUSE

[mortal grail]

YES

[hoary zodiac]

HOTBOX

COOKED ALIVE IN THE NZXT HOUSE

[mortal grail]

Over the course of 5 years you will pay 6 TIMES the cost of the pc outright and you will never own it

YES

[hoary zodiac]

That is so ironic I'd do it for the meme

[mortal grail]

BUT THEY APPROVE ANYWAY

DO YOU REALISE THE PROBLEM NOW?

[wary fjord]

turn the blind eye.. keep the busines boomin

xD

[mortal grail]

No ID required AT ALL

You can fake it with a bad credit card and get approved

[unreal trail]

If kids can wipe out parents bank account in Roblox, why not?

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/scraptrap-williamafton-fnaf-fnaf6-creppy-gif-17308147

NZXT house:

[wary fjord]

that wont be good if i rent 20 pc.. with no id at all.. using silicon mask of another people

im rich now

xD

[mortal grail]

It's not nearly the same

It's rent to not own, not finance to own

[craggy shoal]

mood

[mortal grail]

This isn't some PAYG contract

This is a monthly paid, loan

[wary fjord]

i dont usually rent a pc.. but when i do i go to computer shops xD its 25 pesos per hour with aircon and some food at the back .. unli soup refill

[hoary zodiac]

Tfw when nzxt rips you off more than the housing market

It's like renting a house for a price that's way above the mortgage rate

Yeah because it's an O11D

[wary fjord]

ive seen this image like 15 times now i think

xD

im having dejavu

[mortal grail]

Just thinking about that whole flex pc crap boils my blood

[wary fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-insane-cat-meme-insanity-losing-grip-gif-2901353152573298214

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder what rossmann is saying about it

[mortal grail]

He would have something to say tbh

The nzxt server doesn't seem to care

[wary fjord]

same thing what other says

but him just sitting ona chair

[hoary zodiac]

I mean they buy NZXT cases

[mortal grail]

"No strings attached"

Turns out there are tons of strings

What a honey trap for the financially illiterate

Absolutely insane

[hoary zodiac]

I love literal false advertising

[wary fjord]

because 🙂 they been trained

[hoary zodiac]

I thought AMD being scummy was the worst of 2024

But no

[mortal grail]

Loyal puppies

[wary fjord]

whos a good boii?

xD

[hoary zodiac]

Well AMD and Intel tbh

Exiled

[wary fjord]

why they dont like u

or u have ops there

xD

[elfin mural]

nzxt server members are so loyal

[wary fjord]

if u say bad ur warranty is voided

[hoary zodiac]

I don't get brand loyalty

Look at AMD

[mortal grail]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/NZXT/comments/1h5g13g/over_36_months_the_average_mafia_loan_is_better/

[elfin mural]

look at nvidia

[hoary zodiac]

They would absolutely not hesitate to screw you over

[elfin mural]

it's all around

[hoary zodiac]

Why be loyal to a brand

[elfin mural]

intel used to screw us all

[hoary zodiac]

And they HAVE BEEN DOING IT SINCE ZEN 3

[elfin mural]

now they're getting screwed instead due to delays after delays

[wary fjord]

sometimes its a trait .. where u became attach on something u love

[elfin mural]

it sometimes is copium

[mortal grail]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/NZXT/comments/1h5gwh4/rental_costs_nzxt_vs_other_loan_options_with_nzxt/

[hoary zodiac]

I'm attached to my pc and I can acknowledge that asus can be a scummy company

[elfin mural]

jesus christ

[wary fjord]

nzxt loaning a pc like u buying a car xD

[elfin mural]

that interest

just buy a car at that point

[wary fjord]

eyah and do door dash

[hoary zodiac]

This is like renting a condo vs paying mortgage

[mortal grail]

Literally steve's words

[hoary zodiac]

Except you're not getting a condo

[wary fjord]

get 700 bucks per weak on door darsh

[hoary zodiac]

You're getting a studio

[elfin mural]

go buy a CAR and do jobs

honestly

instead of renting a pc

from nzxt that is

[wary fjord]

trucking is nice on sims.. but not irl xD

[elfin mural]

it's not financing, it's renting to not own

[wary fjord]

the fatigue of not sleeping is hard

[elfin mural]

just to have access

[mortal grail]

💀

[elfin mural]

lol

[wary fjord]

ow it do be like that

[elfin mural]

thanking nzxt for educating someone to not buy a pc from that company

[mortal grail]

It took GN CALLING THEM OUT

FOR KIDS TO BE PROTECTED FROM THIS SHADY CRAP

I hope NZXT bleeds and burns

[hoary zodiac]

https://youtu.be/P011OQbOYd8

[unreal trail]

MSI BIOS update is bugged

[hoary zodiac]

Welcome to the corrupted bios club

[elfin mural]

GN is the only channel saving the tech industry from

[unreal trail]

my PC no longer recognizes my TV has speakers

[elfin mural]

crumbling down and burning

needs bios update

either update the bios yourself or wait for B850

[mortal grail]

Literally 5 minutes on reddit and I find the EXACT type of financially illiterate person that NZXT targets with their flex program

Scummy af

[elfin mural]

(but just update bios manually tbh, it's easy)

[mortal grail]

He's not even stopped by the video

He's still gonna rent

Like ???

Bro can't save up for 4 weeks

[elfin mural]

im sad for that guy

poor dude wants to RENT instead of finance

[craggy shoal]

Defending renting physical objects is wild

[unreal trail]

I had to update for my CPU already, the new BIOS is the wreck one

[elfin mural]

i would've been fine if he didn't do something as stupid as

renting

rent it for 5 years and you get an entire car

[craggy shoal]

Financing is understandable. Renting is completely wild

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah because you'll OWN the pc at the end

[mortal grail]

LMFAOOOO

[craggy shoal]

Schools at 7am for no reason

[mortal grail]

Omg

This subreddit is a treasure trove

[elfin mural]

"you'll own nothing and you'll be happy" is becoming more and more real

[elfin mural]

subscriptions started to short circuit financially iliterate people's brains

[wary fjord]

how about those people who tattoed nzxt on their arm 😦

[hoary zodiac]

At this point it wouldn't be so bad if ww3 set us back to the medieval age

[elfin mural]

but now it's rent-a-pc-for-ungodly-high-apr

[wary fjord]

apr the higher the better right?

xD

[elfin mural]

now what's next from nzxt?

nzxt flex+? mortgages for pcs

[wary fjord]

bought rebranded to other name

[hoary zodiac]

Rgb subscription

[wary fjord]

TOQR now

maybe FSIS

xD

any 4 letter

[hoary zodiac]

Pay to use different lighting presets

[wary fjord]

so many company now tell us we dont own anything

steam games,, nzxt etc

[elfin mural]

pay a dollar every time you boot your pc up

[wary fjord]

whoa they cant do t hat. EA patented that

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah but steam doesn't screw over the consumer in the process

[elfin mural]

lmao

yeah gabe newell legit said

[hoary zodiac]

They actually care somewhat about customer satisfaction

[elfin mural]

"i will refund your games"

[hoary zodiac]

That's ubisoft

[wary fjord]

best grandpa ever

[elfin mural]

valve honors refunds as long as they line up with their policies

or in special cases

scams

[hoary zodiac]

Don't we all

EA, activision

[mortal grail]

Every like 2 posts is someone giving NZXT flack

[elfin mural]

[mortal grail]

I haven't found any new funnies yet

[elfin mural]

that shows the state of the company they're in

why am i not surprised that nzxt

would be the one pushing fraudulent acts like these

[wary fjord]

i own planss vz zombie tho.. i still have the installer i guess t hats a flex

[elfin mural]

apparently selling expensive pc parts isn't enough profit

[hoary zodiac]

I'm surprised because I thought they were just the funny company that made mid products at a premium price

[elfin mural]

nzxt just had to cannabilize itself

[hoary zodiac]

Like corsair but worse

[elfin mural]

with this

[hoary zodiac]

no

They LOOK good quality

[mortal grail]

[hoary zodiac]

Put your hand behind the exhaust

[elfin mural]

thermalright would give you better quality

for like

1/4 of the price

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

You can get more expensive fans

That looks better

And still cost less

Brick

[elfin mural]

slight issue with thermalright is availability

[hoary zodiac]

The reason we don't make aesthetic arguments because uh

It is too subjective

[elfin mural]

some fans regularly go outta stock

it's annoying ngl

[wary fjord]

that looks nice

[elfin mural]

but it's reasonable

[hoary zodiac]

That is a roundabout way to saying that some people have bad taste

I had to drop that

Couldn't resist

[elfin mural]

imagine coming in and performing better, if not equal than existing competitors at a cut price

that is completely understandable that a lot of people would want one

[hoary zodiac]

It's the apple effect

Why do people buy macs

[elfin mural]

but to be fair to apple rn

macs suddenly became an interesting deal

[hoary zodiac]

Ok to be fair macs have actual value at the moment

I've been shilling apple too much recently

I don't like it

[elfin mural]

iphone is still mid imo

(60hz display in 2024)

[hoary zodiac]

Who buys an inferior and locked down phone

You can't even make the performance argument

ofc you have an iphone

[elfin mural]

base iphone 16 is still 60hz

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah and how much did you pay for it

ok

How much did it cost

And what do you use it for

[elfin mural]

i unironically kinda want a mac mini with m4

but i don't need one

but 699 bucks for 16gb ram is

[hoary zodiac]

I want to get a mac mini and use it as a server

[elfin mural]

attractive

[hoary zodiac]

Well I mean tbh I need a better isp

Or a vps

Can't afford either

It's like a couple dollars a month

oh yeah mobile games exist

[elfin mural]

ported pc games exist on ios

but it's a few

titles

and imho not worth it

for something with passive cooling

your perf falls off a cliff after only 30 minutes

[hoary zodiac]

I use my phone for texting, youtube and emails

I don't know why I got a pixel 6

But I did

[elfin mural]

i want an iphone cuz i can shut my brain off and use my phone

but they're

so expensive

[hoary zodiac]

Ok I know why I got a pixel 6

But I have way too much excess performance

[elfin mural]

pixel 6 is honestly

so fast for its time

[hoary zodiac]

Wdym

It's still fast

[frigid stag]

14 hours is insane

[hoary zodiac]

I use my phone for actual phone purposes

So the biggest killer for phones for me is bloatware

Pixel roms are relatively bloat free

It's practically pure android

They can last YEARS

My phone was only $300 btw

please no

[elfin mural]

was and still is

[hoary zodiac]

Not this again

[elfin mural]

(exynos yes but the gpu is beefy tho)

[frigid stag]

i have 8gb on my 2017 macbook

[hoary zodiac]

Oh wait phones

You said iphone right?

WHAT

NO

[frigid stag]

8gb has been normal since like 2015 for macs

[hoary zodiac]

Bloatware gonna kill it

Do you have any idea how much bloatware exists

[elfin mural]

dram chips

barely weight anything

[hoary zodiac]

that's not how flash memory works

It'll weigh the same

[elfin mural]

i've just said that

[hoary zodiac]

12am chat is wild

What is everyone on

My haswell mini pc has more ram than that

Haswell is from 2013

Well I mean

That's in the windows 7 age

8.1 is underrated

[elfin mural]

dram chips don't even add any weight to a device

they're not hard drives

[hoary zodiac]

How do you end up with all the niche versions

[elfin mural]

they're tiny devices soldered onto a pcb

and pcbs are light too

most of the bulk from phones are their frames, displays and batteries

the rest is negligible

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/babylon5-b5-londo-londo-mollari-yum-yum-pod-gif-23400621

[elfin mural]

as phones get denser batteries

they get heavier and heavier

as well as the usage of glass

[hoary zodiac]

that is a rabbit hole

[elfin mural]

because that's an odd number

capacity depends on the designs

which is a whole rabbit hold

for example a dram chip can come in like

4gb per chip

[hoary zodiac]

Technically you can get 20gb of ram

You can mix capacities

I would not recommend it

[elfin mural]

not ideal

[hoary zodiac]

But you can get 20gb

[elfin mural]

but it's possible

phone ram generally runs in dual channel

talking about higher end stuff

[hoary zodiac]

So there's this thing called hybrid ram config

Basically a part of the ram runs in dual channel and the odd capacities run in single channel

So of you have a 4gb and 8gb stick together

4gb + 4gb would be in dual channel

And then you'll have another 4gb in single channel

what no

That's a whole different matter

It's just more cost effective to make 8gb

No point making 4gb sticks if nobody's gonna buy them

I mean

Not the best

But it's relatively less annoying than other types of mixing

That being said

[mortal grail]

#tech-industry-news

[hoary zodiac]

Don't mix memory

Ram is very volatile

Why

That's not even going to work on a consumer chipset

It just won't

It physically does not support 2TB of ram

It's like asking a tank to fly

You're not the first person to think of that

Are your ancestors Russian by any chance?

[icy ore]

[hoary zodiac]

https://youtu.be/oHg5SJYRHA0

Yes

Once you power off the pc all the data in the ram is gone

no

it is not

That sentence contradicts itself

I'm going to sleep

12am newegg is too wild

[unreal trail]

trust me, I made it up

[mortal grail]

Intel just dropped a bomb on the low end

25% faster than the 60 class for $250 is insane

They COOKED

[sweet phoenix]

Thats insane

[mortal grail]

#tech-industry-news

Yooooo

3070Ti perf for $250???

Am I doing the math right??

No, 3070-ish

WOW

New???

Wtf

We may have a 6700XT replacement

[sweet phoenix]

How much better than the 7600?

[mortal grail]

They claimed ~30%

So it's sorta in that like

halfway house

6700XT-7700XT range

$250 btw

[safe cape]

wrong ???!!!??

[safe cape]

waiting for 5060 300$🛌

[empty tide]

I dont think that'll ever happen

[mortal grail]

That's what they claimed

[safe cape]

why

[empty tide]

Oh a 5060 equivalent for $300

[safe cape]

4060 launch price was 300

[mortal grail]

$250

[empty tide]

Noted. Still skeptical of Intel's numbers (granted skeptical of anyone's numbers until 3rd party reviewers have a say)

[wary fjord]

intel is back now?

[mortal grail]

Agree

[empty tide]

Exactly. Why launch it at 300 when the last one launched at 300? They're still selling the 4060 base for 300

[safe cape]

then 350$

[empty tide]

$400 bare minimum

[safe cape]

nah

[empty tide]

Nvidia has green in their eyes. They know people will buy them no matter what

[unreal trail]

I wont

[empty tide]

you won't. The average person will

The average person known nvidia. The average person doesn't know or trust amd or Intel (GPUs. Still iffy on if the public trusts their CPUs anymore)

[unreal trail]

average person is buying prebuilds

[empty tide]

And prebuilds use nvidia because it's what people know. It's the safe option

[unreal trail]

bruh

I have no rgb at all on my PC

[empty tide]

I'm not saying I wish it was this way. In an ideal world, all 3 major GPU chip makers would have at least some marketable percentage if the gpu market and cause competition. Right now that's not the case. I hope Intel changes that with battlemage

my keyboard has the r but no g or b lol

But seriously, please at least look at other options

[nocturne flicker]

Honestly the most likely scenario is that Intel yoinks some of AMD's market share while Nvidia laughs in the background

[unreal trail]

that'll be temporary

[empty tide]

I hate how much I think this is true

Wait a minute I'm no keyboard expert

I'd wait for more knowledgeable people to give a second opinion.

I just, don't have good experiences with Razer. Even their deathadder mouse, one of the few things people praise from Razer, broke on me within 2 years

[unreal trail]

I bought a Razer cap card and it was a bad experience

[mortal grail]

Why we talking razer?

[wary fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/rapidtulip647-rt6-meme-memes-funny-gif-18023610011466115205

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/rapidtulip647-rt6-meme-memes-funny-gif-18023610011466115205

[sweet phoenix]

Petition to make this an emote?

[wary fjord]

i cant xD

[mortal grail]

[unreal trail]

brother, may I have some loops?

[mortal grail]

Dance with us

I know not of your loops

Only these moves

Which are FIRE 🔥

[proud jackal]

[mortal grail]

Ryzen dance squad lets go @wary fjord @proud jackal

[wary fjord]

boredom_dance

fixed

[mortal grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1313527935319281734.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=boredom_dance

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/v1fEpWy9B0c?si=jvmLkAxlmoYXs_A8

Dang, rebar still required but other than that, this is pretty good so far

Also Intel making their own framegen/anti-lag technology

Very nice