general-chat

[velvet summit]

Yeah it was

https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mypM0V8QnsGjXK3_ezIYioNwgOzyKgUxM&si=_aX7svgV8hU_KFb7

That album is just of songs used in the game, and this is made for the game https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_laB6TWvB2RBnp3vwvCapneBYRx4Av8DJA&si=DqIW5YjceV7Uz5IE

[lone mango]

Ah yeah i remember that

Crazy they would do that

[hoary zodiac]

Crazier that nobody had a problem with it

[chrome mirage]

There's a lot of things I like about death stranding but it's not the type of game I can just sit down and enjoy at any time. I need to be in the mood for it.

[elfin mural]

Wait.. she died?

That's heartbreaking for me to know just now

[lone mango]

Dont a lot of cars use 3g too

[chrome mirage]

My coworker's flip phone uses 3g.

[lone mango]

[chrome mirage]

I constantly praised the guy for keeping that old phone, I did warn him that 3g is getting shut down here soon though.

[hoary zodiac]

and medical devices

and in a country like australia

a LOT of places don't have 4G coverage

this is just irresponsible

they just want more money

[mortal grail]

Same blue screen?

@devout forum stop watching this guy

Like

☠️☠️☠️

How do you get benches this wrong

[devout forum]

That was the ONLY time I even referenced him

I don't watch him lmao

GN, HUB and LTT

they're my main info sources

[mortal grail]

For some reason I remembered that one convo really strongly

Lmao

12900KS at the highest score is WILD

[devout forum]

I only needed SOMEONE to put a 14700K in an nCore 100 Max

but ye

I don't actually watch him Felix, but thank you for your concern of my sanity 😄

Speaking of which

[devout forum]

I think that'll probably be fine with some mild undervolting

like

It's borderline with the unleashed stock profile, so undervolting SHOULD give me pretty much full performance

[mortal grail]

Won't

New bios means you want extreme for full performance

Which means you're gonna pull 250+W or it's kneecapped

[devout forum]

Yikes

See that is a problem

[elfin mural]

tech yes, more like tech no

[mortal grail]

It's not like older intel where a little undervolt just plain works

Tech no city

[devout forum]

because the PSU in the thing is 850 watts

[mortal grail]

Tech no music

[elfin mural]

lmao

tech no music

[devout forum]

so if you also slap a 450w 4090 into it

You're really riding the lightning

[mortal grail]

Yeah I wouldn't do that either

1000W minimum

[lone mango]

I wonder if that is because of that w11 thing

idk i dont use w11

[mortal grail]

If you want big multicore +4090 do 7950x3d

[devout forum]

I could get an 1100 watt version of the PSU that is in it (they are the exact same pinout)
But those cost two arms and a foot

[mortal grail]

Nah he's just posting his tuned results from what I can tell

[mortal grail]

Just do 7950x3d

[devout forum]

is it good for streaming?

[mortal grail]

This ruins testing as it's like taking a tuned car to a car meet. Ofc stock is slow

[mortal grail]

Sure is

[devout forum]

No complaints then

[lone mango]

5 minute boot times

[devout forum]

I don't really care whether my rig is AMD or Intel

[mortal grail]

Worth tbh

[devout forum]

All I care for is being good with streaming

[devout forum]

Just never shut it down, ez

[mortal grail]

You turn it on and do something else, come back when it's on

Always do memory context off

[storm narwhal]

I'm pretty sure any cpu is good at streaming tbh

[mortal grail]

Always stablez

[mortal grail]

Pentium x864

[devout forum]

Felix actually

[lone mango]

Then windows takes up like 8-10g of ram with everything closed

[devout forum]

7800X3D is enough for it right?

[storm narwhal]

I left out the "modern" bit of the sentence

[devout forum]

48gb memory

[lone mango]

Like the old old days

[mortal grail]

I mean if you want peak am5 perf you run those boot times anyway cos it's way more stable

[devout forum]

like the 7800X3D is pretty much meta for gaming
And it can do streaming on the side methinks

[storm narwhal]

7800X3D would be just fine, I'm pretty sure nowadays streaming is just limited by your network hardware

[devout forum]

gigabit internet plan

like legit the router COULD do 2.5g

[mortal grail]

Sure

[storm narwhal]

Especially if it's to twitch, you're limited o a maximum of like 6000kbps iirc

[devout forum]

But the internet plan is limited to gigabit

[icy ore]

[lone mango]

I dont stream but why not use the gpu encoder

[lone mango]

[storm narwhal]

Gpu encoder takes little to no impact on the actual gameplay

[lone mango]

[storm narwhal]

or performance is what I meant to say lol

[devout forum]

and iirc nGreedAI has a better gpu encoder

which is

Incredibly ironic

[lone mango]

Nah not really. amd is basically a ghetto nvidia, slightly cheaper at launch but also worse at everything else that isnt raw perf/value later on

They followed nvidias price creep but didnt follow up with what people liked about nvidia

Ima still use amd tho

[devout forum]

Bruh

Excuse me

[storm narwhal]

Ass is allowed

[lone mango]

I hope amds new strat works and more people get their rdna 4 cards. then devs would have to optimize better

[devout forum]

Whoever set up the filter was a man of culture

[devout forum]

Nah those times are over
Upscaling IS the optimization

[lone mango]

[storm narwhal]

Lazy/time crunched devs have to rely on DLSS/FSR

[lone mango]

And it still wont run that good

[storm narwhal]

It's still so stupid that they think every game needs to look super realistic and lifelike whn it really doesn't need to be

And it still won't look that good on most hardware lmao

cause it's built for the top possible spec hardware

[lone mango]

Bro just get a 4090 man

[storm narwhal]

7800x3d and 4090 Ti?

[lone mango]

I remember watching skill ups warhammer review and he was like "i have no performance problems, but I have a 4090" well yeah obviously

Bro said it like the 4090 isnt the highest end card

[devout forum]

TFW new games have performance issues even on a 4090

[storm narwhal]

Space Marine 2 didn't seem to have performance issues as far as I saw

Its just the bulwark is stupid overpowered in pvp

[lone mango]

It doesnt its just really demanding

[devout forum]

SM2 is actually fine

you can get playable framerates on many games

it seems significantly more CPU-limited than most games

[lone mango]

A very small number of people will get over 110 fps average if I remember right from HUBs video

[lone mango]

Yeah

[storm narwhal]

yeah it just needs a min spec of 2600x and a 580

[devout forum]

Getting past 100 fps WILL require faster CPUs

at least in 1080p

to be fair

that HUB benchmark is THE worst case

[lone mango]

Also dont you have to agree to like 5 eulas or something like that

[devout forum]

that swarm mission is extraordinarily CPU-heavy

in most of the game I was 75+ FPS mins on a 6700 XT and a 7600X at 1080p ultra native

[lone mango]

Yeah good thing I did not get it, i think i would not have fun running it

[storm narwhal]

7600x is a decent budget option

They were planning to make a 7600x3d weren't they?

[lone mango]

Yeah I heard something like that but don't remember completely

[hoary zodiac]

ok

had to get a new sim card

never going on the telstra network again

[storm narwhal]

I guess there's a reason it's kinda similar to tesla

in terms of name

but them cutting out 3G as well is pretty stupid imo

You still need legacy support for people who don't have 4G LTE/5G compatible devices

[hoary zodiac]

the whole country is cutting 3G

It's very very stupid

[storm narwhal]

That's what I'm sayiin

what are they gonna do next, cut ss7?

[hoary zodiac]

especially in a country notorious for bad reception

like

4G coverage is pretty spotty

and you want to cut 3G?

what the hell

[storm narwhal]

If the 4G coverage was good like

sure, kinda fair enough except for rural areas

[hoary zodiac]

which is most of australia

[storm narwhal]

Just a really terrible decision on their part

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

someone's going to die because of their mistake

I'm not even joking

[storm narwhal]

Did they even say they would invest more into building up the mobile network

[hoary zodiac]

that's what they said

they're shutting it down to make way for the 4G/5G network

that's corporate BS tbh

like

[storm narwhal]

Yeah no that's baloney

[hoary zodiac]

if you don't have the 4G network in place properly

don't work on the new stuff

[storm narwhal]

You don't need to take down 3G to make 4G or 5G bruh

and what 5G are you gonna use? there's basically no actual decent 5G other than the units from China isn't there?

like the US still struggles with 5G boxes and 5G coverage last I looked

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder how long It's gonna take until Rossmann starts talking about it

[storm narwhal]

Maybe soon? Not sure but it has been a while

[late trellis]

i got virtualbox for just linux

[hoary zodiac]

virtualbox?

[late trellis]

basically salinewin.exe

[hoary zodiac]

why not use wsl

[late trellis]

i cant find it

[hoary zodiac]

https://woshub.com/install-wsl-windows-subsystem-linux/

[late trellis]

oh.

atleast nobody uses Solaris anymore

[storm narwhal]

Oh that's pretty sick you can run distros directly thru windows

though won't updates just ruin those distros randomly

[hoary zodiac]

windows updates or linux package updates?

[late trellis]

wheres arch in wsl?

[storm narwhal]

windows updates i mean

[late trellis]

i am still using windows 10

[hoary zodiac]

windows update ruins itself so

linux's not the only thing it's gonna destroy

[late trellis]

i have 10 hours left to install 3 gigabytes of linux mint

nope now its 2

[hoary zodiac]

are you on DSL or something

[hoary zodiac]

there's probably a github repo for it

[late trellis]

i got Git

[hoary zodiac]

I might set up a couple vms for fun

Imma boot up a ubuntu vm

[late trellis]

pinguino

[hoary zodiac]

ok ubuntu vm doesn't wanna work so here's a windows vm instead

Windows 10 VM running on QEMU/KVM

[late trellis]

hey uhh

how do i make an /home/insertnamehere/.hushlogin file

[hoary zodiac]

never used hushlogin so

no idea

my guess is to edit it with vim/nano

[late trellis]

help

[hoary zodiac]

noooo

https://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/turn-off-the-login-banner-in-linux-unix-with-hushlogin-file/

[late trellis]

are there any other apps that you isntall thru powershell?

[hoary zodiac]

what do you mean?

[remote geode]

oh they probably mean using chocolatey or wpm

[tranquil pebble]

firefox can be installed through ps

[wind quail]

Looks like you're using windows subsystem for linux atm. But basically everything can be installed through powershell

[tranquil pebble]

except games lol... but only because of the trend of using stupid launchers for them

[tranquil pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-gif-14420383036083417101

[elfin mural]

the 1010 has no nvenc

what-

the only THING that makes it useful is to be a display adapter

(not a cheap one at that, 60 bucks on ebay)

[tranquil pebble]

literally useless

better off getting an old quadro for $20 at that point

[atomic mist]

Not as useless as me

[tardy cedar]

i need some advice

[atomic mist]

[tardy cedar]

is intel core ultra 5 better than ryzen 7

[atomic mist]

Yesnt

[tardy cedar]

hmm

[atomic mist]

What models specifically

[tranquil pebble]

a process has been using 100% of a core for 24 hours and accomplishing literally nothing so I finally killed it

[tardy cedar]

ok so basically i want to buy an hp envy x360

[tranquil pebble]

Which Ryzen 7 vs which 5 Ultra?

Your question can not be answered without knowing this

[tardy cedar]

ryzen 7 7730U and ultra 5 125u

[tranquil pebble]

Benchmarks seem to put both as roughly equal

[atomic mist]

Yesnt

[tardy cedar]

i see

[atomic mist]

Battery life will probably be better on the intel

[tardy cedar]

i see

well thanks for the help guys

i shall continue my journey

[atomic mist]

Glgl

[mortal grail]

Good luck you brave potato

[unkempt remnant]

yeah…😢

probably cpu i didn’t apply thermal paste yet

[mortal grail]

Hmmm

Well repaste that, give it another whirl

If no luck still...then I'd take it to a repair bloke

At that point we start getting really complicated with the diagnosis steps and I don't wanna give you something you might find too challenging

[atomic mist]

[mortal grail]

Repasting is pretty easy as long as you follow a good video and do each step properly @unkempt remnant

Arguably easier than what we did yesterday

[unkempt remnant]

yeah ik it seems pretty simple

[mortal grail]

But a repair shop will have all test equipment and everything, they'll know pretty quick

[unkempt remnant]

alright alright

well i was always saying i never was gonna fix that shi myself cus i was too confused but you somehow made it simple for me to do😭

i was going to take it to a repair shop earlier but i didn’t know when

so if repaste doesn’t work then yeah

[mortal grail]

Yeah man it's all good

I figured we could try some easy steps to try and diagnose it but it seems a little more complicated

If it played out how I expected then we wouldn't have needed to consider a repair shop tbh

What I'm predicting rn is maybe a dead memory controller on the CPU

So that would point to basically a replacement cpu completely

But it's really difficult to verify this without being more tech savvy or having spare equipment around

You could pass on what you did to the lads tho and let them know you changed the motherboard battery and tested both ram sticks to no success

Odds are both ram sticks being dead just simply is rarer than a good lottery ticket tbh

So it's likely something else and I think that something else is either the CPU memory controller, or maybe the install, or the SSD itself

Think the very last thing you could try @unkempt remnant is a windows reinstall, wipe the old SSD completely clean and start again

That's about all I can think of that you could do that would save you a trip to the repair shop

But because it's still erroring the same way I have some doubts it'll be the true fix, but you never know

[unkempt remnant]

i think it’s the install

of windows right?

[mortal grail]

Ye

[unkempt remnant]

it says windows didn’t load correctly after a certain amount of blue screens and it take me to the advanced options to repair pc

idk

how would i wipe my old ssd

[mortal grail]

In bios

You'd have to find it

"Secure erase"

It's in like the boot section of the bios

Then you download a new installer and set it up on a usb

Plug it in to the pc and try install

Can't download the installer on the current pc for two reasons

#1 windows won't work and also the system could be unstable so it'll mess the new install up if so

#2 the system can't make it to the installer without windows once it's wiped

[unkempt remnant]

hm

so i’ll just have to take it to a shop anyway if my repaste doesn’t work

bc i don’t have a way to do that

i’ll tell them what you said fs

[mortal grail]

Alr no worries

It was worth it anyway

Good learning exercise

You now know the basics to building a pc

Could probably build one all on your own once you've done the repaste lol

There's really not a whole lot else to it

[unkempt remnant]

wait after i reset my ssd would i be able to play on my pc without windows?

[mortal grail]

Can't no

[unkempt remnant]

holy smokes

[mortal grail]

You need to reinstall

[unkempt remnant]

okay okay

[mortal grail]

Ya it's a complete wipe but here's the thing, the install could be so bad from the whole thing that it's beyond saving

[unkempt remnant]

i got it

[mortal grail]

So reinstalling, starting fresh, clean, healthy data, not corrupted

It's worth doing

[unkempt remnant]

alright i’ll let you know the results later

[mortal grail]

All good

[craggy shoal]

What 💀

[mortal grail]

He's fine, he is very new to all this

This is like his 2nd day in the pc world lol

[craggy shoal]

Man happy birthday then

[unkempt remnant]

i thought the heat sync screws were the ones to remove the gpu yesterday

chill

[craggy shoal]

Lolll

You're taking big steps. Good luck

[mortal grail]

Kinda meant this btw

You've used a power socket right?

Plugged something in?

Imagine that like, 18 more times

Then a few phillips head screws and a screwdriver

Add what you've learned on top

And that's basically a pc

Lol

[unkempt remnant]

it seems pretty simple

but the screws

[mortal grail]

Ya

[unkempt remnant]

and like

everything else

[mortal grail]

It's way more daunting than it looks

But it's more akin to like, adult lego lol

[unkempt remnant]

😭😭

[mortal grail]

We've all been there dw

💀

[craggy shoal]

lol I forgot my rear IO panel when I first build a PC

don't make that mistake. You'll get laughed at for it

[storm narwhal]

Turn on PSU too

Everyone forgets that sometimes

[mortal grail]

It's especially funny when motor forgets

Because motor 💀

[storm narwhal]

Truly

[hoary zodiac]

Flip the funny red switch that says 110-120v <=> 220-240v /s

[craggy shoal]

Also get the front IO cables connected properly

[hoary zodiac]

And not connected to J_USB1

[craggy shoal]

The most MSI thing bruh

Putting "J" in front of all the bus names

Man I need a good NAS case but I don't wanna spend more than $150 on a PC case

Maybe I should just get another Phanteks Enthoo

No space for that though plus I'd just be putting an mATX board in it

I was thinking about getting a DAS instead and putting TrueNAS Scale on this system but idk. Storage pools over USB sounds goofy

[mortal grail]

What the j even mean anyway

Maybe jumper'

[storm narwhal]

Jack all

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1004644552709246996.gif?size=160&quality=lossless

[fair onyx]

started min-maxxing the battery on mmy laptop for work, and man, this is going far

battery saver, limited power mode, lowered the display res, dropped to 24hz, turned off the touch screen digitizer, turned on the panel refresh battery saver, went into the lowest performance mode, turned off keyboard backlight

I'm sure there is much more I can do to make it even better

I don't need 3.2k 120hz to be working and looking at still images haha

honestly, 1920x1200 looks great on this panel from the distance I use. I don't feel like I am losing much at all, but the power saving is certain especially in live update UI's like I primarily use

I wonder if I can turn off the induction sensing matrix on the display, since I don't use my pen with it for what I do

[mortal grail]

DO YOU LIKE?

MAI CAHHH

(My carrrrr, My carrrr)

https://tenor.com/view/fellowship-fellowship-band-fellowship-metal-fellowship-uk-guitar-solo-gif-25805869

https://tenor.com/view/yoshiki-piano-hair-flip-head-bang-furious-gif-5062477

GUESS YOU READY COS I'M WAITING FOR YOU

IT'S GONNA BE SO EXCIIIITTTIIINNNNGGG

[velvet summit]

He
I think you might be thinking of a different singer? Low roar did most of the slower more like atmospheric song, and had 1 male singer

[elfin mural]

ohhh

Low roar, yeah

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/ZAkd_n2zg-Y?si=AXvz_Nn3s-gs2sI0

[wary fjord]

Buy intel ok

Looks good

[sinful blade]

@mortal grail do you have any arc cards

Or should I ask Theo

[mortal grail]

Nah no arc here

[icy ore]

Felix has every card

ever

[sinful blade]

Wack bro

also
I have HEAT

[wary fjord]

wanna see arc?

https://tenor.com/view/electricity-science-laboratory-gif-19240828

[velvet summit]

Round round get around I get around

[mortal grail]

You spin me right round baby right round

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-spin-spinning-fast-fail-gif-21506015

Random fun fact
That turntable is likely worth $2k usd new

It's a technics turntable

It's probably the sl1200

The reason why I'm so confident that it's a technics is because it is iconic enough for audio Technica to make pretty much a direct clone of the sl1200

Which I own that clone (lp120)

which most notably doesnt cost anywhere near 2k usd new

it only costs like 400usd new

everything on the lp120 is pretty much exactly the same aesthetically to the sl1200 (asides from the actual material choice), except for the queuing light

the SL1200 has a cueing light that looks like a straight pin, while the lp120 has a cuing light that is a bit more oblong

[icy ore]

Geez that’s wild

[velvet summit]

the sl1200 has a party trick that the quing light can retract into the turntable, while the lp120 cost cut by using a coaxial connector, so you pull the light out lmao
you know, those RCA connectors

the reason why the lp120 can be so much cheaper is because the deck is made out of plastic, rather than the brushed? aluminum that the sl1200 has

also the lp120 is missing one tonearm adjustment that isnt really needed (height adjust)

[mortal grail]

[velvet summit]

also the reason why the sl1200 is so famous is because it was widely used for dj-ing

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/dp6lVji3qhE?si=JIvn9ngp6A7t9YlG

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-has-been-listed-by-first-retailers-in-europe

https://videocardz.com/pixel/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-full-specs-leak-8-zen5-cores-120w-tdp-96mb-l3-cache-and-unlocked-multiplier

[wary fjord]

so that hole that was there is gone now

[rancid juniper]

pyramid head

[icy ore]

https://tenor.com/view/blkpymd-black-pyramid-pyramid-minions-gif-25895237

[dusk knot]

AMD WINS!

[icy ore]

9800x3d up to 25% faster than 7800x3d is crazy

[rancid juniper]

intel gotta do something man

💀

[dusk knot]

quit

or join forces

[rancid juniper]

nah they gotta improve

it has to be on an equal playing field in order to get competitive prices for us consumers

remember what happened to intel when amd fx was still around?

[dusk knot]

right

[dusk knot]

no i dont remember

💀

at the time I wasnt into PCs

[rancid juniper]

fair enough

[dusk knot]

how was it?

[rancid juniper]

fx?

[dusk knot]

yes

[rancid juniper]

terrible

[dusk knot]

details plz

[rancid juniper]

so bad that intel stuck with quad cores + 14nm for a while

[dusk knot]

🤔

[dusk knot]

crazy

[upper hawk]

Where did you get that from

[rancid juniper]

Their modular design was their downfall

[dusk knot]

Those improvements

[rancid juniper]

especially with the over exaggerated marketing

[dusk knot]

oh

[icy ore]

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2502597/amd-ryzen-9800x3d-specs-and-details-leaking-everywhere.html

[rancid juniper]

some of the fx processors runs worse than their predecessor (PHENOM II)

[icy ore]

(all leaks)

[rancid juniper]

now we are seeing this for intel

how the turn tables

[dusk knot]

interesting

[rancid juniper]

i might convince my friend to get it since he's going to get a pc soon

[icy ore]

im gonna

either way

[rancid juniper]

lol

can't wait to see the reviews

will it be success or a flop?

[dusk knot]

better than intel's 14900k replacement

[upper hawk]

Ah so the 25% comes from stuff like Blender

Still Impressive

[mortal grail]

My cleaned up desk only suits glasses of water to accompany it

Anything else doesn't look as hip

[craggy shoal]

lol I might get a 9800X3D

Maybe a 5080 first though

[dusk knot]

My current job doesnt allow PC upgrades

[mortal grail]

That just sounds like a skill issue

[craggy shoal]

Damb how much do you make? (You shall not mind. This is not a choice. I don't care [for legal reasons this is a joke])

[mortal grail]

How rich r u tho

Motor is instagram poor tbh

[dusk knot]

😡

[craggy shoal]

how many monies does u has

[craggy shoal]

ngl you're right. Only looking good for the photo (fooling people into thinking I have a Strix 4080 Super when it's just a 4070 Super)

[mortal grail]

It's not real poor but like, apart from his hobbies which give the impression of wealth, there's a falloff

[craggy shoal]

exactly 💀

[mortal grail]

How tf did you read my mind

[dusk knot]

Lowe's is at an all time low

[mortal grail]

☠️

[rancid juniper]

Too lowe

[craggy shoal]

I think most of my money is in my servers lol. Not a good habit

[mortal grail]

Become more skilled

Earn promotion

[craggy shoal]

Just get a raise ez

[upper hawk]

Easier said then done honestly

[mortal grail]

Roll up on the manager's office

"Yo dawg I got not enough moolah you know bruv?"

[craggy shoal]

(I know and it's not fun 🫠)

[mortal grail]

"Need some of that dosh"

"Hmu with that uber splash yk yk"

[dusk knot]

I did

[wary fjord]

we all gonna buy it still

until we have more people chanting for it

[mortal grail]

Let's all buy FX processors

[wary fjord]

noo

xD

dont start the chanting

[mortal grail]

You said we would

F X

[wary fjord]

xD

[mortal grail]

F X

[craggy shoal]

Big? (I'd imagine not but that's okay because it's a corporate type company and they do that kind of stuff)

[mortal grail]

F

[wary fjord]

hhahaa

[mortal grail]

X

[dusk knot]

minor 😆

[craggy shoal]

I figured

[mortal grail]

[rancid juniper]

i mean i still have an fx 4300 sitting around

[upper hawk]

Even browsing discord would probably be a chore on a fx

[rancid juniper]

i dunno if it was the cpu that died or motherboard

im betting mobo

[icy ore]

same lol

doodoo garbage

[wary fjord]

i remember those ebay pc like eye candy fx 8300 black unlocked etc with rx 580

[dusk knot]

@craggy shoal Its not a career or anything. I shall wait to get a real job after graduation

[rancid juniper]

it was a bit faster than my athlon ii x4 630

[craggy shoal]

You want an upgrade? I have an 8350. I don't need the motherboard either. $45 and it's yours

[rancid juniper]

FR

[rancid juniper]

45 is too much for an fx imo

heh

[craggy shoal]

motherboard and DDR3 RAM too though

[rancid juniper]

nah i dont need to run another fx pc but thanks

[mortal grail]

We will bless the world

With all the special fx we can afford

[craggy shoal]

Aight I'll probably put it in some random case I have and put it on FBMP and tell somebody that it's an 8-core monster

[wary fjord]

sorry

not rx 580

its r9 furry

[mortal grail]

Who needs more power in one pc when you can more power in FX pc

[wary fjord]

pared with fx 8000+

[mortal grail]

And more FX PC

[wary fjord]

like this @rancid juniper

[rancid juniper]

actual space heater

[wary fjord]

why is it so small

[rancid juniper]

FX for practical FX

[craggy shoal]

"5.0GHz 8-CORE MONSTER WINDOWS 11 (Tiny11) BUILD)" $2 and a happy meal

[wary fjord]

amd

because of this

we are not stuck on intel quad core

forever

[craggy shoal]

I'll put my Hyper 212 Evo on it lol (I should actually just get an adapter for this to fit on newer builds tbh)

[wary fjord]

xD

amd keep them in check

[rancid juniper]

you see the buyer's smile slowly turns into a frown when minecraft (current version) is struggling to run

[wary fjord]

to up the cores

for consumer desktop

[craggy shoal]

Or should I just keep my FX to show my age like others on this server?

[rancid juniper]

FX was worlds first 8 core?

i dont buy it

it wasn't really true 8 cores

[craggy shoal]

"RUNS MINECRAFT JAVA" (1.12)

[wary fjord]

https://www.ign.com/articles/2011/10/12/the-worlds-first-8-core-desktop-cpu-detailed

[rancid juniper]

bruh

[wary fjord]

2011

xD

intel still quad on that era

[wary fjord]

i think

[craggy shoal]

nah it just had two cores within each core. container cores bro

[rancid juniper]

so 2x4?

[craggy shoal]

the computer version "it's the VTEC yo"

[wary fjord]

hahaha

[craggy shoal]

I was being ironic but actually yeah. iirc AMD did this sort of container core thing (the way I see it) where they just put two cores in a "container core," which made it appear and perform as four cores

[rancid juniper]

yea

[craggy shoal]

yeah super weird design lol

[rancid juniper]

single core performance was bad in an era where singlecore was high priority

intel wins in that front

[mortal grail]

I'll win on ur front in a minute

[craggy shoal]

Yeah Intel won off of years full of i7 CPUs with only a 4c/8t configuration (they actually had this for several generations)

[wary fjord]

amd almost bankcrupt xD

imagine if that happen really

[unreal trail]

[wary fjord]

we only have intel.. u think they gonna up the core game?

[mortal grail]

Now it's 8c 8t

Hint hint

It's like we came full circle or smthn

[wary fjord]

if u have i7 we consider u rich back in a day xD

my teacher has it with 650ti..

[mortal grail]

Yesterday huh

[wary fjord]

hahaha

not that day day

[mortal grail]

night day?

[wary fjord]

day nth

[craggy shoal]

lol the first i7 had 4 cores and 8 threads. This went on until the 8700K bruh

[craggy shoal]

bruh 💀

bro just selling the pins

[rancid juniper]

rip 2600

[wary fjord]

opo phone not doing the x competitor side by side

they straight calling out iphone

xD

no sugar coating

[dusk knot]

huh

[wary fjord]

they do side by side of camera still shot that was lit

[rancid juniper]

goofy sound editing

[dusk knot]

I'll believe it when a trusted Youtuber reviews it

[rancid juniper]

jerryrigeverything

[wary fjord]

yeah

but again straight calling out apple is just

bold move

[craggy shoal]

Nah they have their own operating system. Not trusting that 💀

[wary fjord]

they literally have all event comparing each phone

in front of those people

[rancid juniper]

its just a modified android os

[wary fjord]

all features ai camera durability

[rancid juniper]

most competitor phones do that

[wary fjord]

they have balls to call out iphone

[craggy shoal]

True but you can add a lot to base Android. It's the same as not trusting various Windows alternatives (like even Tiny11)

[rancid juniper]

gotta create emptyOS

[wary fjord]

my phone still at a14

[craggy shoal]

yeah

[wary fjord]

must be nice to have a15

[craggy shoal]

just microscopically change each bit with your own hands

[wary fjord]

android is open source

literally u can make it the way u want it

the only thing u have to do on your own is to implement the driver ur own

xD

thats not on the source code

[craggy shoal]

putting Lineage OS on my first Android lol

[dusk knot]

I like the phone, but I dont trust the software

[wary fjord]

all phone cant be trusted 😦

iphone cloud leaking is always a problem

[craggy shoal]

Yeah so I host my own cloud lol

[rancid juniper]

same

[dusk knot]

I remember how a few people in China received bricked phone after dropping around $1500

[craggy shoal]

I know where my data is going lol

[wary fjord]

cloud - someone else pc

hahaha

its very safe on their hands than your hands

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-javi-gutierrez-pedro-pascal-the-unbearable-weight-of-massive-talent-happy-gif-25135496

[craggy shoal]

Yeah I host that on my own lol

[wary fjord]

yeah thats better

[dusk knot]

I love my Pixel phone. no need to migrate to another platform

[craggy shoal]

Nextcloud at home pointing to Cloudflare for non-VPN access ;)

[rancid juniper]

🗿🗿🗿

[wary fjord]

3gb and 120 doesnt go along

[craggy shoal]

I never trust the seller when they say "graphic card" and not "graphics card". I just know it's a low-intelligence random who probably treated that thing without drivers for at least a month or two

[wary fjord]

best thing i can offer is a

tastless gum

[rancid juniper]

😂

[wary fjord]

and two paper clip

[rancid juniper]

best i can offer is a piece of paper

[craggy shoal]

he needs some paper for that weight

[mortal grail]

ONE MINUTEEEEE

THIRTYYYYY

[craggy shoal]

ONE MINUTEEEEE

[rancid juniper]

would u get?

[mortal grail]

ONE MINUTEEEE

[craggy shoal]

nah check the description 💀

[mortal grail]

Get to throw back at them? Yeh

[rancid juniper]

[craggy shoal]

man

[wary fjord]

i dont know

i think i prefered this

[craggy shoal]

yeah I'd take that risk

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-black-guy-gif-5750196720983083288

[craggy shoal]

44GB is nuts 💀

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-oh-the-misery-everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-gif-25368312

[rancid juniper]

i need to watch arcane

[wary fjord]

9060 44gb not a bad start xD

it did exist xD

[rancid juniper]

but it has a 96bit bus

[wary fjord]

it doenst have bus

it has a train

[rancid juniper]

real

[craggy shoal]

No way they'll put 44GB in a X060. That's only like 4-5 years from now lol. It'll probably be 8GB with a 16GB option

Just like the current 4060 💀

[rancid juniper]

true

[wary fjord]

how about this @rancid juniper

[rancid juniper]

B L O W E R

[wary fjord]

do not touch

[rancid juniper]

id touch

[craggy shoal]

Don't Touch

[wary fjord]

it disasembled itself

sad

ur fault u touch it

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-gif-24664106

[dusk knot]

processed to casually swim off a fatal accident calmly

[elfin mural]

drilling it and still not piercing it is amazing

[craggy shoal]

what game is this?

[rancid juniper]

just cause 2

[craggy shoal]

they really made a bad ass action game and just called it "Just Cause"

Man I hate working. I'm just gonna start generating feet pics with AI and sell them

The biggest problem with that would be the gap in my resume

"So what is this gap in your work experience?"

"I sold feet pics lmaooo"

[worthy meteor]

That's why you have to practice your responses, you could've said you used AI to create entertainment

[craggy shoal]

You're right

[fresh nova]

I have this horrid feeling I'm going to buy a 4K monitor for Christm,as

Oh boy

[dusk knot]

GTA6 is going to be unreal

even though I will not buy it

[rancid juniper]

i will wait for discount (for pc ofc)

[silver sparrow]

Kinda been wanting to get a battlefield game

[unreal trail]

I dunno. If I wanna see twerking and violence, I can go downtown tbh

[dusk knot]

lmao

[craggy shoal]

fr I can see that irl

[dusk knot]

GTA 6 is just a florida simulator

showcasing the frisker side of it

with the cherry of crime on top

[deep parcel]

in about 1 month it will be 1 year since the GTA 6 trailer came out. We still havent gotten any other photos or a second trailer or anything.

[fresh nova]

Thing with GTA 6 is if the game isn't ready I don't want them to release it.
I'd rather them take 100 years to release a completed game than 1 year & release a broken piece of garbo.

[tranquil pebble]

same

Rushed releases are one of the industry's biggest problems

[unreal trail]

it was 5 years before we got anything beyond a logo for Prime 4

[deep parcel]

I totally agree they shouldnt rush it.

[tranquil pebble]

People need to stop leaking things because it ruins the surprise and hype

[deep parcel]

indeed. it ruined the trailer for gta 6

[tranquil pebble]

Rockstar didn't want to release that trailer so soon AFAIK

[deep parcel]

the trailer leaked 1 day before

because of a youtube employee apparently

[tranquil pebble]

bruh

They probably sacrificed their entire career for that

[lone mango]

I dont care about gta 6 anymore

[icy ore]

You guys think gta 6 will actually be as good as people are expecting it to be?

[lone mango]

Probably

[icy ore]

I dunno. I think people are hyping it up to be a life changing game

[wary fjord]

They want to be the next nokia

[tranquil pebble]

I expect it to be a lot like 5 tbh

[wary fjord]

All gta is good

The remaster ugly

But the og are good

[tranquil pebble]

The remasters were not good that is for sure

[lone mango]

[gleaming sedge]

neat one i got out of the auction

[wary fjord]

Open world killing npc driving npc over

I own gta sa since released i havent even finished the game xD

To much mtasa or samp.. then planting sticky bombs

I think usa once tried to kill gta franchise

Their gov there hate it

[wary fjord]

Easy to say when it released u gonna get it

75 bucks delux + gameshark

[worn wave]

I mean it's basically Crime and Gang Simulator™️ that a lot of young children get their hands on, so I'm not surprised.

[proud jackal]

OLED?

[dusk knot]

OLED

[flint surge]

guys

i have a problem

why is my system underperforming when charging plugged in but on battery its like x2 everything

antone?

anyone?

ill wait

[velvet summit]

that a lot of young children get their hands on
aka bad parenting because the children dont steal the copy of the game, the parents just dont care enough or spoil their kid too much and just buy them a copy without looking or caring about the age rating

[flint surge]

bro

can you hrlpme?

[velvet summit]

i mean

idk how i could help without any context

lmao

[flint surge]

i said

i have a problem

with my laptop

[velvet summit]

wdym by "2x everything" exactly

[flint surge]

which is when i plug in to charge its performance is /2

[flint surge]

*dobule

double*

[worn wave]

I'd argue this was true back when everything was physical but with digital it's a lot easier to get your hands on an "age restricted" game.
It's definitely also partially bad parenting though

[velvet summit]

like, double the fps? like if you're plugged in you only get 60fps, and on battery you get 120?

[flint surge]

like everything

is way faster

[flint surge]

uhm about hat

like it goes from

10 fps to 30

and its a huge deal for me

in fortnite

[velvet summit]

for gtav, or the games before that, it would definitely be more common to have a console rather than a pc, and it's much harder to pirate games on console

or rather you need to know a guy

[worn wave]

True

[velvet summit]

that is certainly strange
what laptop model is it

[flint surge]

like its systemwide not only games

[flint surge]

inspiron 3593

1065g7 model

[velvet summit]

hmm

[flint surge]

mexican 1tb m.2

upgrade

[velvet summit]

i dont think inspirons have a dgpu?

[flint surge]

they do but

MX230

[velvet summit]

i could only imagine that the game is running better on battery because the game works better on the igpu rather than the dgpu

[flint surge]

yes thats the case but why only on battery

is there something messed up

in the configs?

[velvet summit]

well, because some laptops switch to the igpu if you're running on battery to save a bit of battery (though a bit more questionable with older laptops)

[devout forum]

Probably has to do with power profiles and prioritizing hardware

[flint surge]

ok

but i stsill have

a weird question

why when it came in windows 10

[velvet summit]

it could be the power profiles as well, yeah

[flint surge]

it stutters hard af

but on windows 11 its atleast consistent but low fps

idk what happens?

like the os that came stock is win10 but it stutters every 5-8 secs

with a spike

[velvet summit]

could have been some settings, there isnt much of a performance difference on a bit older hardware on windows 10 vs 11

it probably was the bloatware? did you reinstall windows when upgrading to 11

[flint surge]

yes

fresh reinstall

[velvet summit]

yeah then it probably was like

[flint surge]

like 5 times windows 11 reinstall

[velvet summit]

mcafee eating your perf

[flint surge]

windows defender

i use defender on 11

[velvet summit]

you're telling me your dell inspiron did not come with mcafee?

[flint surge]

it came with

[velvet summit]

on windows 10

[flint surge]

norton

[velvet summit]

oh right

[flint surge]

360

[velvet summit]

similar story with norton

both eat your performance

[flint surge]

but wait

i said

[worn wave]

https://dl.dell.com/topicspdf/inspiron-15-3593-laptop_setup-guide_en-us.pdf
Yeah, looks like the 3593 has an m230 but also the Intel 1065g7 has "iris plus" graphics

[flint surge]

i retried a fresh windows 10

without antivrus

but it stutters still

[flint surge]

yes it does

[velvet summit]

your floor is now 500mb smaller

[flint surge]

my what?

[velvet summit]

💀

i was replying to the meme lmao

[flint surge]

dgpu idling at 85c

[elfin mural]

i got bored and looked at amd's am5 chipsets

[flint surge]

💀

[elfin mural]

..there's apparently a B840 now

and a B850

[flint surge]

no one gonna answer me??

also my gpu specs are

[worn wave]

My thought might be there's some weird power limit on the mx230. Looking at comparisons it should be as fast if not faster than the integrated cpu graphics

[flint surge]

yeah? but idk whats limiting my gpu

also that tihng has 0.92 teraflops

but my intergrated has

1.2

[elfin mural]

how much ram do you have

system ram

[flint surge]

8gb

ddr4

[worn wave]

Run a game and look at the wattage and clock speed of the mx230, and see if it's lower than it should be

[elfin mural]

yeah

that explains it

you have too little ram

[flint surge]

bro ii ran AI on that ram locally

[elfin mural]

you need at least 16gb for a good experience on windows and gaming

[worn wave]

Read futher up.

[flint surge]

bro its a laptop from 2020

[elfin mural]

he has just 8 gigs of ddr4 in his laptop

[velvet summit]

you got multiple issues, but 8gb ram is a bit too small for fortnite

[worn wave]

He's getting better performance with laptop unplugged vs Lowe perf plugged in

[flint surge]

but it uses half?

[elfin mural]

oh

[flint surge]

yeah!

[elfin mural]

must be some weird power limit stuff

[velvet summit]

half?

[flint surge]

4gb

[velvet summit]

i have never had windows only use 4gb ram since xp

💀

[flint surge]

wanna see my current ram?

[worn wave]

Fortnite minspec is 8gb

[flint surge]

yes

miinimum is 8gb

[velvet summit]

i use 90% ram and i have 32gb 💀

[flint surge]

it weird like how is the dgpu getting limited power

i run rocket league nvidia mx230 is 30fps + lag spikes

but intergrated run 50 fps

stable

[elfin mural]

So you might have to install a program that controls your laptop

[flint surge]

i did

[elfin mural]

Something must be setting it to silent mode on AC

[flint surge]

the dell power manager what ever

[flint surge]

ill screenshot it rn

[elfin mural]

Are you in balanced or performance mode?

[velvet summit]

LMFAO a solid 8 fps in cyberpunk

[flint surge]

solid ULTIMATE POWER PLAN

using cmd

cuz balanced runs bad

[elfin mural]

I wanna see the screenshot of your dell control panel

[flint surge]

high perf runs bad

[flint surge]

k

[velvet summit]

at least according to technical.city, you should get like 35fps in fortnite

[flint surge]

REALLY???

[velvet summit]

at minimum

i guess

[elfin mural]

it can do cyberpunk, but at like 50% 720p

[fresh nova]

If I find an OLED in 32” for under $400 then yes OLED

[velvet summit]

oh hey it is supposed to be able to do 55fps on low 720p

[elfin mural]

hmmm...

[velvet summit]

for fortnite

[flint surge]

yes? what??

[elfin mural]

check advanced charge tab

[flint surge]

k

its off

battery extender off too

[elfin mural]

im honestly kinda stuck

[flint surge]

me too

i should be getting 30+fps but getting half

[elfin mural]

Okay, here's what I want you to do

[flint surge]

yes?

[elfin mural]

Go to nvidia control panel

[flint surge]

yes

[elfin mural]

Add fortnite to the list of programs, or whatever

[flint surge]

i did that

[elfin mural]

My brain at 2am is not working well, sorry

[flint surge]

ik what you say

[worn wave]

I'd get something like rivatuner, see what's up with the mx230 when running a game

[velvet summit]

they didnt test cp2077 on the igpu but it... appears that the igpu will perform better than the dgpu??? is this the right gpu lmao
i did look it up and the 10th gen chips should be using the g7 igpu

[flint surge]

i always do

[flint surge]

is this false info?

[velvet summit]

wait

[flint surge]

no where near truth

[elfin mural]

What is your gpu usage and temperature during fortnite?

[flint surge]

full usage

85c

[elfin mural]

That's pretty normal

Okay

[flint surge]

really ? ok

[velvet summit]

oh, that was the iris xe, my bad, wrong igpu

was supposed to be iris plus g7

[flint surge]

SEEi knew it

[elfin mural]

Have you tried giving fortnite higher process priority than normal?

[flint surge]

i did all of these

[elfin mural]

Core affinity?

[flint surge]

i searched online for hours concerning simillar i5 models

[flint surge]

whats that

oh that cpu 0 thing

[elfin mural]

It assigns which cores a process can use

[flint surge]

yes too

[elfin mural]

Yep

[velvet summit]

i mean, i kinda doubt that is an important factor on monolithic cpus?

[flint surge]

the problem is voltage

theres something broken

[elfin mural]

I think your laptop is all good

[flint surge]

really???

[elfin mural]

Just weird that it's happening

[velvet summit]

wdym

[worn wave]

Here's the real specs
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/196597/intel-core-i71065g7-processor-8m-cache-up-to-3-90-ghz/specifications.html

[flint surge]

nvidia running lower voltage

[elfin mural]

Might wanna see how much the game uses up your laptop's ram while it's running

[flint surge]

correct

[velvet summit]

i was looking for more benchmarks rather than specs

specs are easier to find

[flint surge]

ok ill bench rl

ROCKET LEAGE on max

or on mid

?

ill give you screenshots

cuz if i record then my ram gonna be 110%

imma go bench and gonna tell results stay with me

[worn wave]

https://youtu.be/IQfsO1Mm1EY?si=4Zzhl7f3tSpiOzi9

[craggy shoal]

Man what did I come back to

[dusk knot]

No oled. No techie

[velvet summit]

or actually, goin on youtube found it
the iris plus g7 can do 30fps in cp2077 goddamn

[flint surge]

no but how??

[craggy shoal]

Trying to game on an MX230 bruh what are we doing

[flint surge]

bro hOW?

[velvet summit]

https://youtu.be/BJXnTNFwK5s?t=682

[flint surge]

arent these vids lies?? they always are?

[flint surge]

like the results are way diff

[flint surge]

ya correct

[worn wave]

Dude has laptop with both an mx230 and Intel iris plus. Gets better fps when not plugged in

[craggy shoal]

Oh wtf 💀💀

[flint surge]

it might be surprising but i got it for 1k USD but it was in 2020

from an official store

and ik all gonna freak out

but it was corona

so pirces are 2xed

[velvet summit]

that is so much closer than i thought they would be LMFAO

[craggy shoal]

I have a similar setup in my laptop only my performance (even on just the desktop) is way worse than when just plugged in. Worse than you'd expect before using it

[flint surge]

yes. thats what i have

[velvet summit]

my desktop performs worse when it's unplugged (it cant turn on when unplugged)

[flint surge]

bro

[craggy shoal]

Only mine is whatever Intel Iris graphics and an MX350

[flint surge]

...

asus vivobook?

[craggy shoal]

Dell Latitude

[flint surge]

oh o

[craggy shoal]

oh o

[elfin mural]

How the heck a laptop performs better unplugged is beyond my range of comprehension

[flint surge]

idk!!??

[worn wave]

I'd guess in more cpu intense / less gpu intense scenarios the mx230 might pull ahead more because then the cpu just gets to do cpu stuff. Not sure if that's how it works or not though. (Maybe in a laptop with heat it does?)

[velvet summit]

i mean, hmmm
if there's no mux switch, and the dgpu goes through the igpu, that could potentially worsen perf if the dgpu is already so close in performance to the igpu?

maybe the dgpu needs a repaste?

[elfin mural]

I'm starting to suspect

[flint surge]

suspect what

[elfin mural]

That the adapter is what's damaged

[worn wave]

Could be this, but it's not that old

[flint surge]

what adapter?

[elfin mural]

Your laptop's power brick

[flint surge]

just changedit for monthly check

[velvet summit]

i mean, those parts mostly came out in 2019, though even assuming that the laptop was produced in 2020, that's still around 4 years ago at this point

stock paste sometimes may have become crusty at this point

[flint surge]

idk

[proud jackal]

Who wants to buy my 285k and z890 apex

[flint surge]

what should i do