general-chat

[tranquil pebble]

I suspect that ultra may have a lot of OC headroom

[wary fjord]

but its intel .. intel the best ftw

😦

https://tenor.com/view/penguins-of-madagascar-rico-dancing-dance-dance-moves-gif-22963077

[dusk knot]

they're focusing too much on efficiency this gen

Smh.

[wary fjord]

which is what i want xD

[tranquil pebble]

good for laptops, not so good for desktops

[wary fjord]

i dont want 400w cpu

on my country

[dusk knot]

Right right right

[west topaz]

can ryzen have in game filtering like nvidea or no?

[wary fjord]

?

[dusk knot]

Go team Lisa

[wary fjord]

i forgot ngl i use driver only no gui on my driver

i think they have some color profile u can do

[tranquil pebble]

yes, color correction

[west topaz]

Yeah i want my games to be more saturated in color and this default isn't cutting it for me 💀

What software do i need to download ?

[dusk knot]

Download OLED

[west topaz]

💀

[tranquil pebble]

Its right in the Adrenaline control panel

[west topaz]

Interesting, i'm not seeing that

[tranquil pebble]

screenshot what you see

This setting should be there even on iGPUs

[west topaz]

Oh I got it!

Appreciate it! @tranquil pebble

[tranquil pebble]

np

I have been using Radeon for literally decades

[wary fjord]

theres one too that makes it vivid

i use to like that settings xD

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

[silver sparrow]

Radeon be killing it with their setting panel

Amd in general

Nvidia panel is horrible compared to amd imo

[unreal trail]

[deep parcel]

there is a new nvidia beta panel

that combines geforce experience and nvidia panel

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-app-beta-download/

[worn wave]

Nvidia control panel wasn't pretty but it had lots of options

As a TAA hater I like being able to force FXAA in games like Apex where the only in-game option is TAA on or no AA

[fresh nova]

When the new open world games coming

Where the game at on par with Subnautica, Astroneer & RUST.
I honestly don't think there are any...

Jesus RUST sucks some VRAM, using all 12GB on Ultra...

[pastel marsh]

anyone know what card the pg150 zotac nvidia rtx card is?

some sites say it is a 2080

I am looking to get a card for my brother's pc we're gonna build him

[worthy meteor]

Engineering sample passively cooled 2080ti apparently

[pastel marsh]

so don't buy

[worthy meteor]

PG150 is the PCB, not the actual GPU

[west topaz]

Ummm amazon has a ryzen 7 for $150 now lmao

[worthy meteor]

I don't think it was ever made into a commercial product so there's probably weird things about it, probably don't risk it unless it's really cheap

[pastel marsh]

I mean it is 150$ cad

[worthy meteor]

Which one though

[worthy meteor]

Get whoever is selling it to benchmark it if you can

[pastel marsh]

I messaged the seller

[wary fjord]

thats cheap

but go x3d still x3d more W

[west topaz]

whats x3d?

[worthy meteor]

They're just getting rid of old stock at this point

[west topaz]

Idk i wanna upgrade from my ryzen 5 5600x

[hollow trench]

there is some crazy cheap 7800x3d and higher on Newegg rn

[worthy meteor]

5800x is what, 3 generations behind now

[hollow trench]

advertisements for seperate websites junk looks like such a scam

[pastel marsh]

@worthy meteor what does he mean

[worthy meteor]

What

Typo?

[wary fjord]

he mean if u own 2060 ko

[pastel marsh]

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/126735780093

[west topaz]

What should i upgrade my ryzen 5 5600x too ( budget: $200 & under )

[worthy meteor]

Don't right now

Nothing worth upgrading under $200

Save it until you can upgrade to next platform

[wary fjord]

5700x3d is same price on my country

160 bucks i mean less 10 bucks xD

5800x3d still high price sad

[sinful blade]

GO ALL OUT WITH THE NEW SEGOTEP GANK 360 RGB CASE
GUARANTEED TO MAKE YOUR NEW CPU WOW THE COMPETITION

[west topaz]

Bet, how much should I save if you ball parked it

[worthy meteor]

Just ask him to benchmark it in something

[rigid sinew]

good morning frens! Have a great day today 🙂

[wary fjord]

deym r5 3600 here cost only 25 bucks xD

bruhhh

[worthy meteor]

Prob like $500 ballpark for new cpu new board and ddr5

[west topaz]

You think i'd need a new board and ddr5?

[worthy meteor]

Good morning naht

[west topaz]

Well nevermind

[wary fjord]

nope not so good Typhoon Gaemi (Carina) xD

[west topaz]

That makes sense

[surreal kernel]

is this a good case?

[rigid sinew]

ooooooooo ;0

[wary fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/flood-house-funny-memes-funny-gif-27029501

[rigid sinew]

just tell the water no

[worthy meteor]

Likely overpriced but the mesh one isn't terrible

[wary fjord]

install drainage in the middle of living room

will fix this flood

in my head xD

[surreal kernel]

can someone help me pick a case bru I'm lost as hell

please

[wary fjord]

dual chamber.. 3x 160mm fan on front.. at top and bottom.. meshed.. made out of copper case

if that dint cool ur system xD

i dont know

just watch gamer nexus video.. tier list of case

check if something caught ur eye

[unreal trail]

[wary fjord]

this is a nice pc

someone already made a full coper build

[rigid sinew]

imma make a sticker of me

[devout forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZID_Pq---Ks
Leaked 9800X3D claims involved

apparently 8-13% FPS uplift

Allegedly

[proud jackal]

285k will be the best right?

[devout forum]

For what?

[proud jackal]

[devout forum]

It really depends what you seek

(It's basically a less power-hungry 14900K)

kind of a Core Ultra Meh85K

at least they're kinda back in the game I guess

[wary fjord]

yes you should get it

[devout forum]

Oh boy

Apparently Arrow Lake is having 24-pin power spike issues?...

[wary fjord]

we cant let theo switch on amd.. xD else intel sales gonna go down.

[devout forum]

GN Steve is unhappy

[wary fjord]

what does that mean

will that melt 24 pins

[devout forum]

Seems like Arrow Lake draws a good bit of power from the 24 pin

Doubt it's melting connectors much

But it's definitely a little weird to do that

[wary fjord]

i mean 24 pin is stable since long time ago

what could go wrong

its just a spike xD

is 285k is their top end next year?

hmmm im confused how 5700 beats that xD

[devout forum]

Also Intel messed up the launch

APO is not enabled by default in most boards

and there are boards still using the LGA 1700 ILM that bends chips

Basically Arrow Lake is a sh*tshow

[wary fjord]

wait they have this unlocked version right..

that might be go brrr

[devout forum]

Oh yeah also, Arrow Lake triggers Easy Anti-Cheat

just to make it all that more chaotic

[wary fjord]

no idea xD but hopefully intel make good money this next year because they might get delisted on stock market soon

[proud jackal]

All thwse 285k low 1% fps reviews

[devout forum]

You use Arrow Lake you get banned from game

but ye 1%lows are pretty cracked

[wary fjord]

why

what arrow lake does

that seems unfair xD

[wary fjord]

ow maybe eac will adjust not intel

[devout forum]

Idk, it just happens

NGL it feels like Intel forgot how to win

They're the Ferrari F1 team of the CPU world rn

[wary fjord]

intel will win.. just wait.. xD they cooking something

https://tenor.com/view/let-him-cook-cook-cookin-big-wok-gif-141999319614473134

[devout forum]

I mean yeah 1% lows do look pretty spicy

It's just

[fresh nova]

That's a wrap

[devout forum]

They're not exactly doing that well with averages

[fresh nova]

Theo's not gonna be happy when he sees this

[devout forum]

9800X3D is probably gonna run their fade in

Since Arrow Lake is already behind the 7800X3D

So if the 9800X3D launches without a complete crapshoot

It's just gonna steal the thunder

[wary fjord]

285k on their naming are they gonna stick with that?

whats the next version after that

290k?

do they reset the k

[fresh nova]

I dislike e-cores

a LOT

Give me more P-cores. remove the e-cores

[wary fjord]

would u like 1 P core but 9 ecore and they sell it as 10 cores

[fresh nova]

SO DUMB

I've seen that a lot and it pisses me off

E-cores suck

what do they do run the background programs???

So what, more faster p-cores for gaming is better.

[wary fjord]

they said e core helps

sometimes

if u can trigger it to help

[fresh nova]

Ryzen is proving this

[devout forum]

E-cores do be handy when doing rendering and such

[fresh nova]

Faster cache, more cache, faster cores running at less wattage = cooler performance.

[devout forum]

And they're SUPPOSED to make the chips more efficient at lower lpads

[fresh nova]

Then Intel can name chips with e-cores "Xeon" and leave our P-core chips alone.

[devout forum]

I mean

[fresh nova]

People who want a chip for rendering can buy a Xeon with e-cores.

For gaming

[devout forum]

Cities Skyline 2 can actually use ALL those cores

And it does love more cores

[fresh nova]

Intel needs faster, more effective p-cores running at lower wattage.

[devout forum]

It can go up to 64 physical cores

[wary fjord]

i want all p cores 😦

[fresh nova]

That's one game

[fresh nova]

I agree

[devout forum]

It's a start

[proud jackal]

285k is good for gaming at night guys?

[wary fjord]

yes theo

[devout forum]

But yeah I'm like

[wary fjord]

get the unlock version theo

[fresh nova]

Ryzen has very fast 8/16 core performance and thats great.

[devout forum]

I don't hate e-cores
But when your p-cores suck up 300 watts there's little point to them

Now if you actually had a power budget that makes sense

E-cores would be sensible

Especially for stuff like watching videos

Imagine drawing like 12 watts watching YouTube

Ryzen is DOGWATER with low load power consumption

[wary fjord]

300w for cpu alone hmm thats kinda same as my rice cooker.

[devout forum]

Cuz IO die sucks up like 25 watts no matter what you do

[fresh nova]

Gamers do not care about power consumption

[devout forum]

So the THEORY is sound
Intel just absolutely sucked at practical execution

[fresh nova]

They care about FPS

Power to the average gamer doesn't matter. FPS does.

[devout forum]

I do with these energy prices here

Average gamer =/= American

[fresh nova]

All I know is recently I got to see some of the best processors from Intel & AMD back to back for HWBOT testing.

[devout forum]

You guys sure don't give a damn about power efficiency when you have cheap nuclear/renewable power

[fresh nova]

And Intel got destroyed.

[wary fjord]

i care 😦 look how low my electric bill is this month

17 bucks

[devout forum]

But us European/Asian folks don't have that luxury

Like I legitimately have to care about power and heat

[fresh nova]

I was an Intel guy for a long long time, & I'm still running Intel chips now. They perform for what I need but AMD is better.

[wary fjord]

i want a 65w strong as 9950x3d

maybe amd can cook something up xD

more 65w cpus i want

[dusk knot]

What a life ending amount

[devout forum]

88 watt power draw on a 7800X3D is like a dream for me
But it's too expensive

[fresh nova]

I've had every chip from Intel since 6th gen, 6700K, 8700K, 10900K, 11700K, 14900KS, so on & so on. AMD performs better than Intel in games & the multicore testing I've done.

[dusk knot]

Wait another year of two

[fresh nova]

It's facts

[wary fjord]

ur 14900KS still alive?

[dusk knot]

Will be sub $300 USD soon

[wary fjord]

how do you keep alive xD

[fresh nova]

Returned it after my testing

[wary fjord]

ow

[fresh nova]

And jamming it with 5.9v

[wary fjord]

that cpu has terminal cancer by default

[velvet summit]

yall just gotta go nuclear 💥

[devout forum]

My main question though
Would Intel have any sort of advantage if you stream from the same computer as you game on?

[velvet summit]

quicksync

[rancid juniper]

0x12b microcode update is awesome, stress testing the 13600k at 1.084v! Aircooled @ 71c max

[devout forum]

Can e-cores do that with Quicksync while your P-cores run the game?

[velvet summit]

quicksync is the igpu job

[rancid juniper]

quicksync uses only the igpu nothing else

[devout forum]

Oh

My b

I thought network handling and stuff goes with it

[fresh nova]

https://hwbot.org/user/bryce_games/#Hardware_Library

[devout forum]

I'm quite an idiot you guys see

[velvet summit]

well, there might be some cpu cores used for like scheduling or whatever (idk how it works exactly) but yeah it should be pretty much only igpu

[rancid juniper]

Bryce Games new game dev company

[wary fjord]

you got a12?

deym

i miss my a8

[devout forum]

But yeah like
Those e-cores are useful for a PC you use to game and stream on at the same time

[rancid juniper]

i see

[devout forum]

Simply cuz it's much easier to stream with one computer than two

[wary fjord]

vtuber has doo doo pc by start they doing fine xD

i think what matter most is the upload speed

[fresh nova]

My hardware library has all of my testing

And you guys can see the accurate validated results.

[devout forum]

TBF the vtuber I'm watching is rolling a baller PC

13900K with a 4070

[wary fjord]

yeah once they the money they upgrade

[devout forum]

I'm not sure it's actually a 4070

But it's an RTX card for sure

They had a 3070 before, but I forgor what it's running now

[mortal grail]

What is this

Pcmr pc

[devout forum]

They play PDX games

And the PC is not new by now

Oh yeah

They run a single 120mm AIO too

[rigid sinew]

should i do a funny sticker or my signature headshot

[proud jackal]

285K PERFORMANCE WILL GET BETTER OVERTIME RIGHT?

[rigid sinew]

sure

[devout forum]

It's so disgusting
Mismatched DDR4 sticks and a 120mm AIO with a 13900K and a 4070 Ti

[wary fjord]

one fan at the back?

thats it'

the last time i have that setup was back on my core2duo pc xD

[devout forum]

It's a mishmash of pain honestly

But they said it's running just fime

Not even degrading

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1004644552709246996.gif?size=160&quality=lossless

[devout forum]

Or they just dunno

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

[wary fjord]

it works it works

[surreal kernel]

wait I found one

phanteks XT View D-RGB

[wary fjord]

i bet that rig plays better game that my rig

[surreal kernel]

seems cool

[wary fjord]

500x

[surreal kernel]

usb c and everything

I'm worried it might b a litteral hot box because of the design

I love fish tank cases tho

[rancid juniper]

neat

[surreal kernel]

I was maybe thinking the masterbox 600 but idk

[rancid juniper]

@proud jackal when your cpu arriving?

[proud jackal]

285k will beat AMD after a few updates right?

[rancid juniper]

he's losing it

lol

[opaque sedge]

TOGETHAA

[rancid juniper]

Wtf

[safe cape]

still slow for 4090/5090

lol

[proud jackal]

JUST NEEDS NEW BIOS UPDATES RIGHT?

[rancid juniper]

uhhhh.... maybe???

[safe cape]

u need more RGB

[proud jackal]

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

hey man, overclocking will save it frfr

i thiink

[mortal grail]

[spark halo]

I just called best buy to ask them to put pc parts on hold cause i wanted to pay in cash, they said they dont do that and got mad at me.

And im thinking to myself wait a second why dont you do that anymore…

[mortal grail]

Well their loss then

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/soldier-ww2-traumatized-meme-eyes-gif-12257475272172704406

[mortal grail]

I'm surprised they don't

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-dogecoin-mining-gpu-shibe-gif-20328067

[mortal grail]

Time to buy from amazon instead

[spark halo]

Basically.

Guy over the phone was getting super angry at me for no reason

And im just thinking to myself

why in the world are you mad I have done nothing wrong

[rancid juniper]

man i remember when this gif was reposted an infinite number of times during the mining craze

scalped gpu go brrrrrr

[devout forum]

I just realized something

I have two conflicting needs

If I was to build a PC rn
I'd want it to be power-efficient because of the high energy costs

While simultaneously being very good at both video editing and streaming

[proud jackal]

Fix it, felix

[opaque sedge]

Look up rykard togethaaa in yt or play elden ring

[rancid juniper]

elder ringing

[devout forum]

This sucks
You can't have the best of both worlds?

[opaque sedge]

“Try finger, but hole”

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[opaque sedge]

This is what most messages left by other players look like

[proud jackal]

I should cancel my orders, right,?

[rancid juniper]

Dude tbh I'd get zen 5 x3d chips

ARL this gen is not that good

Next gen may be better

[devout forum]

Hold on
Isn't a 14700K basically just a binned 13900K?

Or am I schizo

[rancid juniper]

wut

[mortal grail]

I can't

Buy me ifixit kit

[devout forum]

I think I might be going schizo

[mortal grail]

I need tools

[mortal grail]

20 core vs 24 core

[devout forum]

I'm schizo then

My bad

I thought it was pretty much the same thing

[nocturne flicker]

14900k was the binned 13900k yeah?

[mortal grail]

14900KS was binned 13900KS

14900K was just improved node 13900K (Kinda 13900KS but not)

[fresh nova]

Jesus

[mortal grail]

In the end the problems of RPL mean they're all essentially the same anyway

[rancid juniper]

I wonder if UBM is coping now @mortal grail

[devout forum]

Then what's up with the 14700K?

Didn't it get a couple more e-cores compared to the 13700K?

[rancid juniper]

Yea

[pastel marsh]

I have double the ram now for tridentz, so a tiny bit outdated

[rancid juniper]

14700k is the only chip that had a core count difference

I think

[devout forum]

I see
So it's actually a little faster in multicore

Interesting

[pastel marsh]

here's something nsfw, look at that undervolt + overclock

[mortal grail]

They've already started heavily promoting the chip

[devout forum]

TBF it's the exact same cost here as a 13700k

[mortal grail]

It's #1 on UBM with 1 sample

But here's the thing

Any amd chip that does this, 1 sample never gets up there

[devout forum]

So like
Honestly I think if you buy an LGA-1700 mobo
It's better to use the 14700K if you go 700 class

[mortal grail]

Depends on price

Each region differs

[devout forum]

NGL I think UBM is ran by actual Intel shareholders

[nocturne flicker]

Truly the most UBM of all time

[devout forum]

Like some Mom's basement dweller no life wanting to get rich off of having a couple Intel stocks

[rancid juniper]

Lmfao

[nocturne flicker]

Virgin marketing account vs Chad real users. UBM has embraced the memes

[devout forum]

The problem is they don't have the braincells to realize that they're the punchline of their own memes

[rancid juniper]

UBM as someone says "is an April fools joke that will never end"

[devout forum]

2kliksphilip

[rancid juniper]

Yep ^

[devout forum]

The myth, the legend

[dusk knot]

Never

Only the best for theo

[mortal grail]

They've been banned from intel channels for bad behaviour

[devout forum]

That doesn't mean they can't be simps

[mortal grail]

The early cpu benchmarks you see are other early testers just trolling the website

[devout forum]

That's just a showing of how even Intel doesn't want to associate with them

[rancid juniper]

Dang I dropped an Intel 670p nvme on the floor

Slid right out the package

[devout forum]

It should be fine right?

[rancid juniper]

Probably?

Idk

[devout forum]

Test it

[rancid juniper]

Ye I will

[proud jackal]

Address and name

[pastel marsh]

it is an ssd

so it has no moving parts

it should 100% be fine

[proud jackal]

My 285k is ready for pick up

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-water-slub-spaced-out-dead-gif-27052193

[pastel marsh]

the ultra 5 has no difference for the nlp

so the 245k is the best option for this gen

I don't think amd is gonna have an npu for their stuff at least for a couple generations

[proud jackal]

Guess I'll pick up my stuff at lunch

[mortal grail]

Felix felixson

285 Intel St

New Zealand Australia

[pastel marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/rezero-felix-netfelix25-netfelix-maxbooncito-gif-26393918

[mortal grail]

[pastel marsh]

Also the intel new chips support 13 TOPS, meanwhile my rtx 2070 super only does 9 TOPS

[mortal grail]

Time to upgrade

[pastel marsh]

and that is 13 TOPS on their own as a smoll cpu

[pastel marsh]

I mean the A770 supports up to 262 TOPS

[mortal grail]

Lol

[pastel marsh]

they got 512 tensor cores

[proud jackal]

285k will improve once windows optimizes right??

[mortal grail]

I was joking

[pastel marsh]

the 2070 super has 32 tensors

[proud jackal]

[pastel marsh]

It'll allow you to run local llms

in the future, microsoft plans to have their own llm tied to windows

[mortal grail]

Local theo ai's

[pastel marsh]

which will be Phi

and soon everything you do on your computer will allow for these llms to interact through scripting powershell commands

imagine debugging a save file for a game on its own

or installing updates for all your drivers

[proud jackal]

@mortal grail but gaming

[mortal grail]

Ultra gaming right

[proud jackal]

We call that spyware

[mortal grail]

Everything is at ultra

So you don't need good gaming cpu for ultra

[safe cape]

5090 ULTRA

[mortal grail]

[proud jackal]

@mortal grail pls give me hope for 285k

[pastel marsh]

you will sell your soul for AI

[mortal grail]

PLUSSSS ULTRAAAAAA

[mortal grail]

Uhm

They'll make a KS?

[pastel marsh]

intel is the only company investing a ton in it for consumers, nvidia has their quadro and tesla series barring it

the 4090ti and the likes aren't built for AI

[proud jackal]

[pastel marsh]

meanwhile AMD sucks because 0 tensor cores

[devout forum]

Wow the cope is strong with this one

[pastel marsh]

try running a local ai on ur computer

[devout forum]

How about no?

[pastel marsh]

or even stable diffusion

[devout forum]

AI is a gimmick for most people and a security hazard for everyone

[pastel marsh]

your computer rn is using algos to show stuff on the screen

[devout forum]

That's not AI tho?

Like TF kind of analogy is that??

[pastel marsh]

well AI is just algorithms

[devout forum]

"Your comp does calculations so AI is good"

AI is a joke

[pastel marsh]

no

the whole economy begs to differ

[mortal grail]

Ti!?

[devout forum]

When you throw enough computing power at it and the best it does is say that Chad's name starts with the letter T
It is

[pastel marsh]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4090-ti.c3917

[devout forum]

The whole economy that is doing perfectly fine without AI:

[pastel marsh]

the options market controls 50% of the entire stock market

[devout forum]

And AI is a dogwater trader

[pastel marsh]

no

[devout forum]

You're drinking the koolaid man

Don't drink the koolaid it never ends well for anyone

[pastel marsh]

ok mr amd user

[devout forum]

As if that was an insult somehow

[pastel marsh]

well you can't even run any of the operations

it is too slow

[devout forum]

As if I wanted to run any of that

[pastel marsh]

tensor cores are optimized to working with tensors

so if you even want to work with big data, you can't on those cards

[devout forum]

Ask me when I gave a singular effing bird about any of that

Do you work on big data with your cute little 1060?

[pastel marsh]

your loss

[pastel marsh]

got a 2070 super

[devout forum]

Yeah newsflash
It's not good for the workload you are talking about either

[pastel marsh]

it is from 2018

so yeah

I could still run llms on it

[devout forum]

But did you know that AI farms are the exact reason nobody can get a decently priced GPU anymore?

[pastel marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-crying-meme-gif-26327776

[pliant berry]

what are we arguing about? there aren't really any "ai" programs on PCs that are worth much anyway

[pastel marsh]

they are cheap

[pastel marsh]

if you're coding

[devout forum]

Like we just got through COVID, then the scalper pandemic

And then the complete AI crate began when suddenly everything is AI

[pliant berry]

like 80-90% of the ai bots for coding run in the cloud exclusively

[devout forum]

So we're just not gonna get GPUs for another like 5 years until the AI craze dies off like every other marketing firebrands do

[pastel marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-cat-meme-cat-cats-gif-10138630861828915286

[devout forum]

This guy here is completely clueless

Point and laugh

[pastel marsh]

you can locally host them

[devout forum]

You can

And nobody does

[pastel marsh]

I do

[devout forum]

Because locally hosting is dogwater

[pastel marsh]

I got a ollama instance over wsl

[devout forum]

You aren't achieving anything with a single piddly 2070

[proud jackal]

285k will be the best once new bios and Windows update happen

[devout forum]

IDK WTF you're in about but you're drinking all the marketing koolaid and it's aggravating

[proud jackal]

Intel will rise like the Phoenix

[devout forum]

Please just go and accept that Intel lost already

[pliant berry]

intel is back

[devout forum]

It's getting painful to watch you cope Theo

[pliant berry]

wait whose satelite was it that just got taken out

[devout forum]

Wut

Satellite got taken out?

[proud jackal]

DIAMOND HANDS

[devout forum]

TF

[pliant berry]

oh i think it was boeing

well that's not janky at all

[devout forum]

That's a lot of LN2

[sinful blade]

Intel gpus possibly

[devout forum]

I mean fair

Hopefully Battlemage actually gets released and doesn't suck

[pastel marsh]

consumer market for gpus accounts for less than 10% of sales

except for amd

[worthy meteor]

should be fine, gonna guess we'll finally get the "3070 performance" just a few years late

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/tohru-honda-tohru-honda-fruits-basket-fruits-gif-1020039318310337767

[devout forum]

Why don't you go suck Jensen's jacket instead of whatever you're doing here?

[pastel marsh]

go cry me a river

[devout forum]

He's "only" like 3rd richest person on the planet yet, go throw money at him

[pliant berry]

guys...

[devout forum]

That'd unironically be kinda cool

[sinful blade]

But at a much better price point

Which is

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-gif-14574044441062752875

[devout forum]

Intel bringing reason back to GPU pricing would be nice for sure

[sinful blade]

I want an a750

Seems like a middle ground gpu

[worthy meteor]

a better a770 without screwing up the price would be an easy win for Intel

[pastel marsh]

I mean the a770 is the same performance wise for computing as a 4090

[sinful blade]

Would definitely help them win back some support

[sinful blade]

Who’s using a 4090 to compute and not an actual computing card

[pastel marsh]

the people buying the gpus

researchers, hospitals, military

[sinful blade]

Wack

[pastel marsh]

and blackrock

[pastel marsh]

look at the h100 and then the gaudi 3

one is 35k, the other is 13k

that is intel's comeback

[devout forum]

I'm fairly sure the A770 has fewer cores than a 4090

[pastel marsh]

same amount of tensor cores

[devout forum]

But go off spewing misinfo

[pastel marsh]

you can't compare cuda

cuda is like comparing a pencil to a pen

[sinful blade]

[pastel marsh]

those don't use tensors

tensors is for training

[mortal grail]

Oh that was just made for a placeholder

[atomic mist]

[mortal grail]

Ti never actually existed, only 4090 super

[devout forum]

Pretty sure there are like

Several magnitudes of difference between 1st and 4th gen tensor cores

So big number =/= winning

But hey

[pastel marsh]

not really

they are measured in TOPS

[devout forum]

It's the midwit strategy of being pedantically correct while

[pastel marsh]

trillions of ops per second

[devout forum]

Absolutely presenting out of context info

[pastel marsh]

the a770 can do up to 262 TOPS

[mortal grail]

Nope

Not magnitudes

Maybe degrees

[devout forum]

In 4 generations?

[sinful blade]

where’s the super knowledgeable dude

[devout forum]

Then why iterate on it like 4 separate times?

[sinful blade]

The one with 6 letters in his name

[devout forum]

That's kind of stupid NGL

[sinful blade]

@modern imp you are needed

[worthy meteor]

It's just marketing figures that don't have any real benches to prove for or against it

[atomic mist]

Luckily my name isn’t Darvan

[mortal grail]

Iirc the latest tensor vs last gen was barely an actual improvement in pure performance

[devout forum]

Either way
I'm getting aggravated and tired
I should probably sleep

[mortal grail]

It was more an expansion on an existing performance

[devout forum]

Before I get myself banned with some stupid crap

[sinful blade]

!ban @devout forum

[devout forum]

Oh wow

[sinful blade]

Behold

[devout forum]

!ban @sinful blade

[sinful blade]

My mod powers

[devout forum]

Goes both ways

[sinful blade]

Wait no

I’ve been banned

@mortal grail It was nice knowing you

[devout forum]

We're both in the naughty corner now

Thanks man, you really screwed us both

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-five-nights-at-freddy's-toy-freddy-animatronic-sigma-gif-18383648778972099528

[mortal grail]

Why are the green roles fighting

@wind quail MOOOOMMM

[sinful blade]

IM BLUE

[atomic mist]

Uh oh not another role war

[mortal grail]

Mixed with green

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/too-soon-western-cowboy-movie-cowboys-wild-west-gif-5359084

[sinful blade]

Bright teal

[atomic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-gojo-yellow-role-gif-2475892790391981505

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-purple-name-purple-role-gif-10020559195564552383

[proud jackal]

285k will be good after optimizations

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-crying-crying-girl-crying-anime-crying-anime-girl-gif-4473502144398719776

[atomic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-red-role-gojo-red-role-gif-10332570022337826605

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/red-role-sukuna-jjk-stand-proud-red-roles-gif-10845959139408539546

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-roblox-pretty-bomb-gojo-satoru-jjk-gif-10308814757332321098

[modern imp]

?

[pastel marsh]

it can run llama 3.1:8b without issues under 12k context window

[wind quail]

Ask your father I'm busy

[modern imp]

make sure to OC the NGU,D2D, and ring

[proud jackal]

[pliant berry]

you really need to stop or your gonna end up muted or banned

drop it

[pastel marsh]

then I will short ur company

:)

[worthy meteor]

Anyways I give up looking for training data for a770 because no one even bothers testing it

all that matters for consumers is inference

running llama 3 is inference using a trained model

and a770 is worse at inference

[devout forum]

As a customer I am actively repulsed by the AI marketing craze

I don't need AI in every single goddamn thing that's being sold

[pastel marsh]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/97705/metas-next-gen-llama3-llm-is-here-and-the-intel-arc-a770-outperforms-geforce-rtx-4060/index.html

[worthy meteor]

better than 4060, yes

but do you remember what you claimed

[devout forum]

Bro just can't understand what stopping means lmao

[mortal grail]

@atomic mist DAAAAADDDD

[devout forum]

Bro's either massively capping or can't read

I don't know which would be worse

"Dude the A770 has the same perf as a 4090 in this"
The source they list: barely beats a 4060

[worthy meteor]

this is the one decent looking source of data I found and it doesn't have 4060 OR a770 lol
https://github.com/XiongjieDai/GPU-Benchmarks-on-LLM-Inference

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/mygod-whathaveidone-ohno-cat-explosion-gif-4930325

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-hoshino-dies-gif-6092809020848299943

[pliant berry]

noo

that was one of my favorite anime scenes though

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/fullmetal-alchemist-gif-23104096

[worthy meteor]

better than clannad?

[pliant berry]

damn that's really tough. I would say as a moment maybe clannad after story had a slight edge, but as a build up over the course of a single episode oshi no ko is golden

[proud jackal]

Yes but the 285k guys

[worthy meteor]

maybe its another 11th gen thing

[pliant berry]

sorry I haven't kept up with the latest in hardware but is that really their name for the new flagship? what the heck happened to the naming scheme?

[worthy meteor]

they have to make something bad before making something decent

[worthy meteor]

yea they broke their naming scheme

now its core ultra 9 285k

[pliant berry]

https://tenor.com/view/why-persian-room-cat-guardian-but-why-trendizisst-anyaboz-gif-2156104475561014590

[worthy meteor]

they want to be special

[atomic mist]

Ask your uncle I’m tryna watch the game

[mortal grail]

@proud jackal RICH UNCLEEEEE

HELLPPPP

[proud jackal]

Don't worry guys next windows update

Going to fix everything

[mortal grail]

UNCLE THEOOO

😭

[proud jackal]

You don't even like me

[mortal grail]

Wha

I always loved u coming to my birthday

I always got to hear cool stories like "I preordered intel ultra 9 285k"

[proud jackal]

Ask your other uncle, I invested in AMC theater

[atomic mist]

[mortal grail]

@wispy knot UNCLE FAAAALLLL

Theo's being a bulli

[wispy knot]

?theo

[topaz crown]

https://tenor.com/view/theo-scream-meme-animal-gif-16920068

[sinful blade]

?theo

[topaz crown]

https://tenor.com/view/theo-scream-meme-animal-gif-16920068

[proud jackal]

[safe cape]

wich mobo

did you get ?

[proud jackal]

Apex

Cudimm memory not even widely available yet

Feels like Intel 12th gen all over again.

[wary fjord]

Hmm

[unreal trail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2SZtxMF2Jg

[rancid juniper]

670p nvme doesn't work on my laptop

i did hear alot about it not supporting nvme...

not giving up tho

🗿

[silver sparrow]

Damn, now I’m jobless

Oh well anyways

[dusk knot]

You're looking for another job right?

Right?

[craggy shoal]

Right?

[silver sparrow]

Yeah, i had a interview yesterday

I got laid off due to lack of work at the company

Just so happened a few weeks after i had a hr incident happen but surely that has nothing to do with anything

[unreal trail]

vote camela, surely a better job is waiting

[lone mango]

[sinful blade]

No politic

[unreal trail]

no u

[deep parcel]

time to delete stuff off your drive

[rancid juniper]

ugh

[sinful blade]

3600 or a 2300x?

[craggy shoal]

man what

you sure you know what you're asking?

[sinful blade]

Oh wait

[craggy shoal]

💀

[sinful blade]

I’m so dumb

[craggy shoal]

X MAKES IT WAY BETTER

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/jarosiewicz-zuchewicz-idiot-szur-dzban-gif-18793038

[craggy shoal]

my 3600 is still partially a daily in one of my builds

(Bazzite OS build)

[rancid juniper]

all stable

[sinful blade]

I miss my 4500

[craggy shoal]

latest micro code?

[rancid juniper]

yessir

[sinful blade]

Terrible choice for the cost
But it was nice to me

[rancid juniper]

still using the same UV

[craggy shoal]

Any tuning?

[rancid juniper]

adding more made it unstable unfortunately

not really same tune

but there was a temp difference

on 0X129 microcode it would reach around 75-77c on cinebench
0X12B was 72c max

good improvement

[craggy shoal]

Man I should upgrade

[worthy tapir]

I upgraded my sister's 2300x to a 3600 couple years ago and it made a nice difference

4c/4t with 4mb l3 cache to a 6c/12t with 32mb l3

[rancid juniper]

dam

[dusk knot]

Never trust IGN

[deep parcel]

Yeah I had a feeling this would happen

Honestly, Tokyo Vice is probably better than whatever this is that we got

[rancid juniper]

this is probably one of the reasons why

Yakuza as a franchise was never serious all the time

lmfao i wonder what he thinks now

[dusk knot]

The Man in the high castle was ssoo good

Amazon goofed up.

😔

[deep parcel]

honestly, I hope they learn from their mistakes and let the actors play the games they are learning to act and build upon

they deserve these low ratings

[rancid juniper]

yep

[proud jackal]

285k will be good guys

Give it time

[rancid juniper]

buyers remorse

[craggy shoal]

yeah just let it marinate it'll get better lol

sure thing

(it might lol who knows)

[dusk knot]

Lol, theo

[rancid juniper]

Theo when the 285k performs worse than his previous cpu:

https://tenor.com/view/pc-breakdown-smash-your-pc-pc-destroy-destroying-gif-21841521

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/die-gif-21708337

[deep parcel]

still amazes me that Intel can fumble so badly

[rigid sinew]

4:44 make a wish

[craggy shoal]

Bruh Intel used to dominate AMD for years and AMD said "yeah I'm tired of this" and released Zen 1 in 2017 and have been doing even better each year ever since

[proud jackal]

INTEL WILL BE BACK

[craggy shoal]

maybe lol

eventually

[safe cape]

yeah

[worthy meteor]

Intel looked good for 12/13th gen for a while but yea

[safe cape]

ULTRA 9 999K

[worthy meteor]

Back to AMD being on top for now

[velvet summit]

Intel still has the upper hand in home media servers though
Quicksync is quite good, and you wouldn't need a dedicated gpu

So a 12th gen i3 would still be worth it for that

[safe cape]

@proud jackal you won

[tranquil pebble]

stuff hit the fan... caught fire... then exploded soon after

[tranquil pebble]

Imagine a Core Ultra 3 based SBC

[proud jackal]

Won what, I never win

[safe cape]

yeah M4 next week

rip

[tranquil pebble]

Apple M4 assault SoC carbine

[rancid juniper]

alderlake was intel's winning architecture

[tranquil pebble]

until it exploded

[rancid juniper]

LMFAO

so true

[storm narwhal]

They just need one more +

[lone mango]

[storm narwhal]

That'll fix everything

Guys please just one more +

But yeah Intel is doing terrible

[tranquil pebble]

which is not good for anyone

[rancid juniper]

i hope that doesn't translate to gpus either

both AMD/Intel graphics

[storm narwhal]

I wish they did good

So AMD would have pressure and competition

[tranquil pebble]

AMD fans need Intel to succeed as much as Intel fans need AMD to

[rancid juniper]

big facts

[storm narwhal]

Ye

Pls intel

Sacrifice a goat or something

[tranquil pebble]

If Core Ultra 200 series doesn't end up being a winner we might have a problem

[rancid juniper]

guess we'll have to wait like what 1-2 years for the next architecture?

maybe bios updates will help it lol

[tranquil pebble]

if it has good OC room that would save it on desktop

[storm narwhal]

Just one more bios revision

Final final final fix

[tranquil pebble]

Final Fantasy but the fantasy is a CPU fix

[rancid juniper]

intel 13/14th gen moment

[storm narwhal]

I swear this is the last final final final fix

releases a new final fix

[rancid juniper]

honestly i think there's another reason why they made another socket (lga 1851), fatter igpu

[storm narwhal]

Mayhaps

[tranquil pebble]

Arrow in the knee lake LMAO

[storm narwhal]

This is going on the GN 2025 disappointment t-shirt

[tranquil pebble]

hw unboxed is based for coming up with that

[icy ore]

Womp womp

[dusk knot]

Intel is struggling

[tranquil pebble]

yeah its not good

[dusk knot]

They have a photolithography skill issue

They're reaching the limit of the current CPU manufacturing process

This is why just one company isn't good enough. It would be nice if we had a united industry

[worthy meteor]

Intel can't get their own fabs to churn out the same results as tsmc, either at scale or at quality

[dusk knot]

Ah

I was right

Intel used to be a giant, look at it now /:

[rancid juniper]

it will be a nail to the coffin if ARL somehow was unstable

[dusk knot]

trying to play as if everything is fine

[tranquil pebble]

Intel for the longest time was the lithograph king. That era has since passed, as much as Intel loathes to admit it

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[dusk knot]

yeah

[tranquil pebble]

and their entire business strategy depended on this

[dusk knot]

Right right

[tranquil pebble]

so now they are trying everything they can think of to adapt to the situation

The way I see it is they should use TSMC if at all possible until they can their own fabs competitive again

[storm narwhal]

In some better tech news

They actually followed through lmao

Didn't realize how easy the 1.0 scratched until a bit after I bought it lol

[dusk knot]

Dbrand sucks.

Drop your phone just right and it cracks the screen.

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-meth-this-is-not-a-meth-gif-23554445

worst case scenario, this happens

[storm narwhal]

I dropped it like at least 5 times

Its been totally fine

[storm narwhal]

I feel like that's for every case though

[dusk knot]

[storm narwhal]

Its a sign I should have gotten the grip case

But it's already done lmao

[pliant berry]

I ordered a case and screen protector like a month ago and still never got

[wary fjord]

Its undergoing stress test

[pliant berry]

seems that way

[idle nexus]

I hate school projects

the ones that kids get for their parents

best make Pikachu a pumpkin I could come up with

ears are kinda too big but oh well

[pliant berry]

lol looks good though

[idle nexus]

lol kinda derp but oh well

it's a pumpkin

lol it looks like crappy fan art ngl

is this on B550-F?

[random osprey]

Actually organizing for once 🗿

[fervent stump]

I always used the middle one but what’s the bottom

[wary fjord]

The buggy one

[fervent stump]

So only use middle?

[wary fjord]

Not use beta at all

Is better

[fervent stump]

That’s not an option for me

[wary fjord]

Unless you want to be a guinea pig

[fervent stump]

Public or developer just want to know the difference

[wary fjord]

I already told you

Stay middle if u want to use beta

[fervent stump]

Alright

[wary fjord]

Also hide ur email

[fervent stump]

😭

Luckily that wasn’t mine tho but still thx

[fervent stump]

“capture spatial photos,” what’s a spatial picture

Oh

Idc about that

[wary fjord]

https://support.apple.com/en-ph/guide/apple-vision-pro/dev7068c3c93/visionos

Ye

[misty sparrow]

If you have a Quest 3 headset, you can view spatial videos there too

not sure how you would get them onto the headset though

[proud jackal]

s@tranquil pebble new patch out that fixes the sfc false positive

[wary fjord]

@dusk knot

Thanos getting canceled

[icy ore]

[dusk knot]

L

[lone mango]

[dusk knot]

Lmao

[hoary zodiac]

he looks like zathras

https://tenor.com/view/babylon5-b5-bab5-zathras-yum-yum-pod-gif-24092750

[hoary zodiac]

wtf

only 8 P-cores and there's no HT

[nocturne flicker]

This is known, yes

[hoary zodiac]

but like

what is intel cooking

[nocturne flicker]

Intel's shtick this time around was no HT and less powah

And it was meh

[hoary zodiac]

I'd rather have a bit less e-cores and HT

surely that'd be more efficient than whatever this is

I'm curious to see how it'll compare to a Ryzen 9 in multi core

[nocturne flicker]

Mediocre efficiency, mediocre performance at a time when Intel is in crisis mode

[hoary zodiac]

oh damn

it outperforms everything slightly but like

for a next gen cpu

I wonder how would it would've performed if it had HT

[nocturne flicker]

Not in gaming, it frequently falls behind the 14700k iirc

[hoary zodiac]

tbh I'd excuse gaming for i9 and R9s

the i7/R7 are the winners in that category

pretty meh compared to ryzen tbh

[mortal grail]

#tech-industry-news

[hoary zodiac]

It's better than last gen intel but like

[mortal grail]

That's the whole point. In most work we haven't needed HT for a long time so we're ditching it

Now they're trying to make us go back to 8 threads again like old skylake

In their defence it does work

It is a valid idea

[nocturne flicker]

I mean, besides the disaster that was last gen, it isn't actually better than 14th gen. It has some improvements, some set backs and the only real difference is price and power usage

[mortal grail]

For most it won't be better no

Multicore will be what new buyers would be after

For anyone else, really, discounted 13th/14th is good rn

[hoary zodiac]

for me the most appealing aspect is the power draw

at least compared to 14th gen

[gilded kraken]

man new intel chips got bodied in most tests

props for reeling in the power, it is a step forward but oof

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

they're really pulling the power consumption closer to their competition

[gilded kraken]

makes me more confident in the x3d chip Im gonna pick up

[hoary zodiac]

which makes them a lot more appealing

but at the same time this is just a really mediocre product

[gilded kraken]

I think Hardware unboxed is right, this might be like a zen 1 groundwork chip

I can respect that atleast

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

[gilded kraken]

this is unedited

[hoary zodiac]

if it was a couple generations earlier then intel would probably be in a really good competitive position rn

[gilded kraken]

lmao

[mortal grail]

Ya the changes that intel did are architecturally very impressive

[gilded kraken]

Steve its almost 2 am, dont be making me laugh like this with your thumbnails

[hoary zodiac]

about time tbh

but with all big changes

[mortal grail]

Think about it

They cut 8 threads out and gained more multicore

[hoary zodiac]

you never see the full benefits until the next gen

[mortal grail]

That's really impressive

It's just for consumers already on last gen, it's nonsensical to buy

Like Zen 5%

[hoary zodiac]

tbh if you're buying it brand new and power consumption was a major concern this'd be a really good buy

[mortal grail]

Yes

But this would be for a small facet

If you were going to spend $100 more for a 285K over a 14900K, I'd say it's a waste of money

The reason being is you'd need to use $100 worth of power over years to save more

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

It makes sense for bigger business that's still on a 9900k or something

[mortal grail]

Absolutely

[hoary zodiac]

like pixar or something

[mortal grail]

Game servers this is huge

Like server farms?

[devout forum]

Hold on

[hoary zodiac]

oh yeah

cheap cores

[devout forum]

Hold on a sec

[mortal grail]

You see this sort of cpu in game servers

So lower draw for 100 cpus is big

[hoary zodiac]

how do e cores perform compared to conventional xeons i wonder

[mortal grail]

Bug

Big

[mortal grail]

They clock pretty high now

[devout forum]

Apparently Arrow Lake is good multicore, boosts higher than 14th gen AND it's got almost reasonable power draw

even without HT

[mortal grail]

Yes

Yes

[devout forum]

It's at least a good direction, right?

[mortal grail]

Yes

It's architecturally impressive

[devout forum]

like I'm not shilling Intel, but damn they needed this

[hoary zodiac]

I'd say the payoffs are going come in the next couple generations

[mortal grail]

It's just pointless to anyone on current stuff

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

outside of the US it might make sense tbh

[devout forum]

That's true, but at the very least Intel is pulling itself out of the room a little