general-chat

[fresh nova]

1920 x 1080 is kinda small but better than 720P & 4K is too big.

But 1440P is the perfect middle

[nocturne flicker]

And your performance also decreases with the increase in resolution

[fresh nova]

1440P is like near perfect

[misty sparrow]

unless res is manually set to 1080p

but i wonder if i will notice the dip from 240hz to 180hz

[nocturne flicker]

I imagine you'll notice a slight difference at first and then adapt to the change

If you pay enough attention that is

I capped my monitor to 60 for a period and only actually noticed a decrease from 144 when I actively looked for it

But ymmv

[misty sparrow]

there were some cheap 1440p displays in #tech-deals

[fresh nova]

You won't see it

I can't tell the diff between 144hz & 120hz

Anything 90hz & above is close to your eyes.

[mental yoke]

Why the hell does this always happen

[fresh nova]

lmao

[mental yoke]

I hate ppl I swear

[fresh nova]

Even Linus is like wtf

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-22399496

[mental yoke]

I swear

Shoot, wrong discord

Mb yall

[silver sparrow]

well... it could have been worse

[mental yoke]

What?

[silver sparrow]

randomly sending pictures without double checking could have been a lot worse

[fresh nova]

What the actual was Intel doing

[mental yoke]

I know what the picture was of

It's just his hand got in the way

Now I'm mad

[misty sparrow]

why post random pictures of dudes on discord

do you have some sort of onlyfans type thing

good lrod

[mental yoke]

ITS ME

LOL

[misty sparrow]

its you?

[mental yoke]

yes

Except my friends hand in the way

[misty sparrow]

i saw it before it was deleted

[mental yoke]

I gotta go get dressed for this date

Tooda loo buddy

[mental yoke]

My bad bud

[fresh nova]

Ew I hate the word bud & buddy

[mental yoke]

Sorry 🙂

[fresh nova]

Triggers me

[mental yoke]

How about

[rancid juniper]

Bryce's trigger word unveiled

[fresh nova]

Goodluck, remember to open the doors first.

[rancid juniper]

now ill spam it

[mental yoke]

My bad then

[mental yoke]

I know, don't worry

It's my friends' mom

I gotta keep a good looking appearance

[rancid juniper]

oh

Good luck bro, do your best

[mental yoke]

Precisely

The hell

[fresh nova]

https://tenor.com/view/stick-bug-gif-25762122

[atomic mist]

[fresh nova]

Wait

What's contrast do again

It's the difference between black & white right

Like the contrast between them

[novel ferry]

💀

[velvet summit]

Yeah

[somber skiff]

totally legit https://www.ebay.com/itm/365176237744

[mental yoke]

Sup yall

Date went well 😆

[fresh nova]

HP has this thing thermal limited

Where's my 410a unit

[somber skiff]

Change it out for

[fresh nova]

What 4070 did HP put in this thing

It's 💩

[elfin mural]

heap of crap 4070 i guess

[fresh nova]

OMG

It's a 65W TDP 4070

[elfin mural]

lmao

figured

[fresh nova]

🤢

Ewwwww

[somber skiff]

What laptop?

[wraith fern]

whats the new intel socket going to be?

[fresh nova]

Sorry I was wrong it's an 80W TDP laptop 4070

Even still

🤢

[fresh nova]

The HP Omen 14" with the 120Hz Oled screen running at 2880 x 1800 res

I have it for testing not keeping.

I don't like HP

Doing a pro's and cons list on it, so far the screen is beautiful & it's nice to type on (good keyboard for a laptop) everything else ain't it.

The thermal design is okay, big fans on the bottom that exaust out the back but doesn't every laptop do that

[fresh nova]

One MSI has a 45W TDP 4060 the other has a 90W TDP 4060

This is going to be a fun test

[sweet phoenix]

4050 is around desktop 2060 super iirc

Don't quote me on that

[elfin mural]

ish

it's like 3060m

but worse in games where bandwidth matters

96 bit vram

otherwise it's 3060m

[lone mango]

[fresh nova]

MSI has two stealth 14" laptops one has a 45w tdp 4060 & the other has a 90w tdp 4060.
One if $799 & the other is $1,200

[elfin mural]

uhh

one's a normal

other's a pro or something

but seriously

1.2k for that

is hilariously bad

zephyrus is a better laptop if you're after thin n light gamering experience

[fresh nova]

Those are the 3 I've bought so far to "test"

[elfin mural]

fair enough

[fresh nova]

The cheaper 4060 is a 45w card the more expensive one is a 90w card.

[fresh nova]

You would think but it's 3K & I'm testing the 4070 now on this Omen at 3K it's not good

It can't handle that res

[elfin mural]

4070 mobile and 3k

yeah

[fresh nova]

Unless you downscale every game

[elfin mural]

bad combo

[fresh nova]

It looks great on paper

Until you test it

[mental yoke]

Okay so

Why is it that every time I see my dad

He wanna fight me?

I get it bro, I'm 6'11 and ur 6'8, chill.

[fresh nova]

https://tenor.com/view/multiverso-multiverso-akela-multiverso-scout-gif-8208802467565299466

[mental yoke]

Where tf did Bryce come from 💀

[elfin mural]

tekkie

[mental yoke]

Oh hello Foxy

[fresh nova]

I Bryce exist in all time continuum's, everywhere tech exists I too exist within the atoms that make up both space & time.

[mental yoke]

Right on brother

I hate working nights

I work till 5 am today

7 pm to 5 am

[nocturne flicker]

I hate working period

[mental yoke]

Felt that.. but hey, money's tight rn, gotta do something ab it, plus I make $35 an hour.

[fresh nova]

I'm getting to see 4K HDR on this HP OLED

It's....

Beautiful

🤩

It's so vibrant & bright, crystal clear image, no distortion

[devout forum]

I wonder

is X3D matters that much at 1440p?

cuz it's gotten REALLY expensive

like it costs the same as a 7950X by now

[elfin mural]

not really

it does but

amd is gouging the price

they KNOW that people buys them

the disgusting part about being a company with knowledge that

no matter what

people will buy your stuff

[devout forum]

Ye

but yeah

9700X seems pointless at 75% of the cost of the 7800X3D/7950X

[elfin mural]

ya

[devout forum]

I can get a 7700 OEM for cheap tho

PBO makes it basically a 7700X right?

[elfin mural]

yep lol

same thing

going to 8 cores will give you a meaningful boost too

[devout forum]

133890 HUF for the box 7700X
114990 HUF for the OEM 7700

[elfin mural]

core ultra 5 245 is

interesting

245k only costs like 309

[devout forum]

what I dunno is

What more does a box CPU have compared to the OEM tray one

[mental yoke]

Hell yeah bro, right on.

[devout forum]

is it like stickers and crap?

[mental yoke]

How does it feel?

[fresh nova]

It's addicting

[mental yoke]

Send a pic!

[fresh nova]

Sad I won't be keeping this laptop

[mental yoke]

I'd love to see it as well

[fresh nova]

The camera won't pick it up

I don't think

[mental yoke]

Oh dang

[nocturne flicker]

Should be something like no cooler if the cpu comes with one in the box version and sometimes warranty differences

[fresh nova]

It's nice to see but I don't think it serves any purpose on a gaming laptop, the resolution is too high for it to work

[devout forum]

7700X no come with cooler

and apparently the same 3 years of warranty

[mental yoke]

So guys and gals, I have a quick question if you don't mind, what cpu and gpu should I pair for a $1500 PC Build?

[devout forum]

I guess box CPU has more clauses for warranty

since OEMs tend to do warranty themselves

[fresh nova]

What would make sense is if this OMEN went on sale for maybe $1,200 then it would be worth it.

[devout forum]

I'd say 7500F and 7900 XT (if you can fit, 7800X3D)

[mental yoke]

I appreciate it.

[devout forum]

you CAN go Intel, but there is little reason rn

[mental yoke]

32GB or 64?

[devout forum]

though new hardware is coming out soon, I'd wait with building rn

[devout forum]

Are you gonna do anything that NEEDS 64gb?

[fresh nova]

And prob buying a laptop

[mental yoke]

Uhh, not really..

[fresh nova]

I should wait as well

[devout forum]

Then there is your answer

[mental yoke]

And do I need an expensive motherboard?

[fresh nova]

Or get the Best Buy membership & have 60 days to return whatever laptop I buy to use temp until the new laptops come out

[nocturne flicker]

The 7700 comes with a Wraith Prism in a boxed one

[devout forum]

Absolutely not, even relatively budget mobos have all the features

something like a B650 Eagle will do the job if you go AM5

[mental yoke]

Should I go ATX or M-ATX?

[devout forum]

depends on what aesthetics you prefer and case you have

[fresh nova]

Ehhhh this depends on many factors, but what I'd say is don't buy the cheapest one but also don't buy the most expensive one. If you get a mid priced one that's prob your best bet.

[mental yoke]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b650-eagle-ax-atx-amd-b650-am5/p/N82E16813145491

any good?

[devout forum]

it's a budget board that has everything iirc

If you want me to, I can try to put together a 1500 USD list for you

in PCPP

do you also need peripherals (keyboard, mouse, monitor, headphones/speakers) and Windows?

[mental yoke]

O no no, it's okay, imma try to build one on my own, I'll lyk if I need any help or suggestions though

[mental yoke]

Nope, already got my two 49 inch monitors.

[fresh nova]

It's ok power delivery not the best

[devout forum]

alright I'll check PCPP for you

make recommendations that awy

[nocturne flicker]

Ironically, that is why the 7700x in the US is cheaper

[fresh nova]

You wouldn't be able to OC very much but for a daily it's prob ok.

[mental yoke]

Sounds great.

Is 6000MT/S good?

[fresh nova]

I'm more familiar with Intel stuff I haven't built AMD since the AMD FX days

[fresh nova]

Average.

[devout forum]

check this out
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XxWtmD

it's what I'd consider the "meta" for performance/dollar at 1500 bucks

[mental yoke]

Why tbe hell is a 850w psu $150 ???

[devout forum]

1422 USD

[mental yoke]

Is this a good case? https://www.newegg.com/black-sama-matx-atx-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-009W-00047?item=9SIB41TK070749&cm_sp=SP-_-2505566-_-Pers_SubCategorySponsoredProduct-_-4-_-9SIB41TK070749-_-7-_--_-1

[devout forum]

It is a good budget one, but it is mATX which is not ideal

[mental yoke]

And would a 240mm aio be good for a 7500F?

[devout forum]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zhBLVW
This one has more storage, but otherwise the same parts

[devout forum]

No, that's stupid

[mental yoke]

Sooo, 360?

[devout forum]

Peerless Assassin > watercoolers

[mental yoke]

But I wanna go with an aio though

[devout forum]

AIOs are
-expensive for their performance

they don't exactly change the world

and the cheapest ones are so crap they actively hurt your FPS

Peerless Assassin does the job perfectly well while being only 30 bucks

[mental yoke]

I just found one for $100?

[devout forum]

what is it?

[mental yoke]

Veetro?

[mortal grail]

This is better.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dcmDbL

[mental yoke]

Whatever that is

[devout forum]

XTX within 1500?

wow that is

Hats off honestly

I did not think it can be done

[devout forum]

Question:
Why spend 100 dollars if you can get more than enough performance for a third of the price?

[mental yoke]

Wait really?

[devout forum]

Yeah

Peerless Assassin (whether ARGB or not RGB) is head to head with most 240 AIOs

[mortal grail]

Or
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KYwgdH

[devout forum]

only the like actually premium AIOs have an edge that cost up to 10 times as much iirc

[mortal grail]

AM5 just isn't in a good place rn

Intel is the meta, despite people's woes

The microcode fixes have been shown to work at this stage

[devout forum]

I guess it's a trust issue for me

TBF I don't hate Intel

[fresh nova]

E-cores go brrrr

[devout forum]

they do have p good perf

[mortal grail]

I'm dailying 2 13th gen rn so

I'll be the first to say it's screwed lmao

[devout forum]

just a little wary of it rn

[mortal grail]

I was about a month ago

[fresh nova]

Intel doing good things for once.

[mortal grail]

I've waited since 0x129 and the reports have dropped off like flies

So intel is honestly ok rn

[devout forum]

How is power consumption?

[mortal grail]

A lot better

[devout forum]

I still have to count that in cuz power is very expensive for us

so 750w is pretty much my highest power budget

[mental yoke]

My total is $1458.31

[mortal grail]

I mean I get it, you buy into a dead end platform, but flipping the board is just an extra step, the cost to a new platform with long life should never be more than $50 imo

[mental yoke]

Is that decent?

[mortal grail]

So value per dollar Intel is meta rn

[devout forum]

I guess you buy into the AMD promise with AM5

[mental yoke]

Yall want these games that comes with my GPU?

I don't want them

[devout forum]

Warhammer?

[fresh nova]

lol

[devout forum]

I'd honestly take it

[mental yoke]

Awakening and sum else

[devout forum]

I wanted to buy it but ran out of money

[fresh nova]

Warhammer the classic

[devout forum]

SM2 ye

[mental yoke]

U want them?

[devout forum]

I'd take Warhammer Space Marine 2 if you offered

[mental yoke]

I don't need em.

[devout forum]

Sure

[mental yoke]

I already have all the steam games I want/need

[fresh nova]

@devout forum Not gonna lie he got ya on the RAM on the list, his was CL30

[devout forum]

Hey, I don't really think a percent of diff is that meaningful

[mental yoke]

Now that the order is placed

[devout forum]

But I am okay with conceding it

[fresh nova]

[mental yoke]

Gonna wait for everything to arrive

🙌🏼

[devout forum]

Hope you'll enjoy it all for a long time

What did you get in the end? the list that Felix made?

[fresh nova]

Which list did you go with?

[mental yoke]

Gonna upgrade from a Ryzen 5 3600 and an RTX 3060 Ti

[devout forum]

Oh yeah you

Might want to get a new monitor then later

[mental yoke]

I have two 49 inch oled monitors...

[devout forum]

7900 XT or XTX is significantly faster than a 3060 Ti

oh

nvm

[fresh nova]

Everyone here knows I'm an Intel boi, so I'm hoping you picked the Intel list. lol

[mental yoke]

I don't think I need to upgrade

[devout forum]

Ur good

Yeah you're def good there

[mental yoke]

I went with the Ryzen 7500F and RX 7900XT

🙂

[devout forum]

Eyyyyyy

[mortal grail]

Difference between hynix to samsung/micron can be like, 5% at times

It's actually big, that's why I put a lot of stress in ram choice

[devout forum]

Yeah alright I will concede
I don't really know what RAM kit has what dies

I'm not that much of a nerd

[mental yoke]

With 2 full terabytes of nvme storage plus adding on my old 4x 10TB HDD's I had in my old rig

[fresh nova]

Lower CL along with faster mhz

[mortal grail]

Just remember, sub CL32, is hynix

[fresh nova]

CL30 is significant vs CL36

[devout forum]

TMYK

[mortal grail]

That's all you need to know

The CL number itself means nothing

But it tells us which is hynix

[mental yoke]

Thanks y'all

[devout forum]

Glad I could help you BTW

[mental yoke]

Everything arrives in the next two days.

[devout forum]

Nice

[fresh nova]

Is there an updated calculator for ddr5

[mental yoke]

The way you spelled that completely wrong is beyond me 😭

[mortal grail]

Not anything worth concerning about, just remember that one golden rule and you'll get fast ram lol

Hynix trains tighter on all ddr5 boards

So the xmp is quicker by consequence

[mental yoke]

Shh, hold on, I think my friend in the other room is watching sum. Imma try to scare him

[fresh nova]

https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

Where is this for DDR5

[devout forum]

@mortal grail is there any 2×24 kits that are good dies?

[mortal grail]

Yes

H24M

Hynix again

Those you aim for high frequency as micron has iirc rev B and it's kinda mid

So like, 7200 low CL

[devout forum]

6400?

[mortal grail]

Higher

[devout forum]

ah

pain

[mortal grail]

Then you run a normal xmp on amd

So adjust to 6000-6400

The meta is just hynix tho, it's really easy to pick them apart and they're widely affordable

For a while the best ram has also been the cheapest

[devout forum]

KF580C36RLAK2-48 might actually be Hynix

2×24 8000MHz CL36

[mortal grail]

Yes it is

I ignore over 7200 mostly cos it's expensive for the sake of being expensive

[devout forum]

CL36 is the lowest CL 7200 48gb kit I can find here

[mortal grail]

That's probably your hynix pick then

[devout forum]

Okay I lied but this is EXPENSIVE https://ipon.hu/shop/termek/team-group-48gb-t-force-delta-rgb-ddr5-7200mhz-cl34-kit-ff3d548g7200hc34adc01/2241697

[mortal grail]

Cl34 is def h24m

[devout forum]

that HAS to be Hynix but costs an arm and a leg

like

7700X money

literally costs the same as a CPU rofl

[mortal grail]

Ya

So the trick is finding kits you know have hynix on the cheap

Cos binning is basically non existent

Most of all hynix can do upwards of 10K unless it's a really BAD bin

And you're downright unlucky

[devout forum]

that's the issue you see

I do not know what kits are guaranteed Hynix

Told you I'm not that much of a nerd

[mortal grail]

Well yeah again, cl32 or lower

Just remember that, and you can recommend kits brain dead

There are some exceptions here and there, for people asking build help they don't need to know about those exceptions

Cos a hynix kit will train and tune sub timings very similarly on ddr5

Like the difference to a day 1 number punch to a world record week long tune by a pro has very little number deviation

Only certain numbers have large discrepancy

[devout forum]

fair enough

And y'know what

[mortal grail]

So when you use it for xmp it trains very similarly, so it runs fast out the box

[devout forum]

considering your enthusiastic endorsement and AMD gouging the 7800X3D

[fresh nova]

Thanks for the HWBOT tips

[devout forum]

my next build might just be Intel

[fresh nova]

I'm gonna go buy my way into WR now

[mortal grail]

Lol

[fresh nova]

🙂

[mortal grail]

Fun fact, a lot of the hynix frequency records by splave were done on old hp green sticks

[fresh nova]

Gotta get them team wegg points

[devout forum]

cuz this intentional gouging is almost as scummy as the scalpers were back in the day

[mortal grail]

They were 5600 CL46 early kits

[mortal grail]

Ya, AMD wants you to pay more

[fresh nova]

Some of my subs are about to get taken down I already know

[mortal grail]

Wegg's become insane man

Stacked deck of OC'ers

Those guys will give you better advice than me

[devout forum]

7200MHz CL34
I'm smelling a cheap Hynix kit there

[mortal grail]

I take what I see and translate to layman lol

[mortal grail]

Yes

[devout forum]

32gb tbf but still

[fresh nova]

I had one or two if them I couldn't scale the display bigger on this cheap laptop & it's overlapping 😩

[mortal grail]

It is

That'll be h16a

[devout forum]

it's literally the same cost as all the 2×16 6000 kits

[mortal grail]

Ya, patriot?

TG and patriot do cheap 7200 h16a

[devout forum]

T-Force Delta RGB

[mortal grail]

There you go, beat you to the punch lol

[devout forum]

Ye

It's crazy how cheap it is compared to the Kingstons, Corsairs and Crucials

[mortal grail]

But yeah if you're curious about this, go check am5 subs on hwbot and you'll see a lot of the tertiaries, primaries and some of the secondaries are very similar

Intel is way more sensitive to ram at high frequency

But pattern behaviour is very similar

E.g primaries 32, then 39 39 39

[devout forum]

14700K meta lately?

I think you had it in your list

[mortal grail]

All of them are

Like it's ridiculous how good value 13th/14th is rn

[devout forum]

What a weird world we are in compared to 6 months ago

[mortal grail]

You can buy an i9 for less than a 7800x3d

[devout forum]

I feel old... ><

[mortal grail]

I need you to feel young so I don't 💀

[devout forum]

lmao

But yeah thanks for the input

I will now go and reconsider my hardware choices

as weird as it feels

[devout forum]

is something like a 13900K stupid for someone who wants to stream?

[fresh nova]

no?

wut

[devout forum]

I mean in terms of like

locking yourself into the dead platform

[mortal grail]

Not really

[devout forum]

tbf it's still a stupid fast chip

[mortal grail]

If you bought one at release and you are still owning one, you've already got a nice 2 years at the high end

[devout forum]

I doubt you can cool it with a thicc 120 tho

(I'm gonna build my PC in the ncore 100 max cuz I'm loving the small footprint)

[mortal grail]

That's such an expensive case lmao

Really clean tho

[devout forum]

It looks awesome

[fresh nova]

Think about it this way @devout forum

[devout forum]

I'm loving it so much

[devout forum]

????

oh

typo lmao

I was confuzzled there for a sec

[fresh nova]

I’m still running a 11700K (a dead platform) and I’m perfectly fine.
It plays & does everything I need it to

[proud jackal]

285k will save Intel

[fresh nova]

11th gen CPU still running great

I see no reason to upgrade

And I’m on the same APEX board

[devout forum]

I mean fair enough

@mortal grail with the new microcode
Can a 240 cool a 13/14900K?

[fresh nova]

So no a 13900K is not dumb

It will last many many years

[devout forum]

it's just dumb expensive lmao

[modern imp]

If you are willing to tune it absolutely will

[devout forum]

(It costs the same as a 7950X)

[modern imp]

If the intent is streaming I'd just grab a 265K instead tbh

Quicksync on the arrow igpu is insane

[devout forum]

I mean it'd not be a KF either way

Quicksync is just too good to pass up

[mortal grail]

Depends on the aio

If you're talking full tap, ofc not

But on intel default, a couple kinda can

[devout forum]

allegedly the Ncore 100 Max's thicc 120 can do about as much as like a basic 240

that's the thought

if it can't

[mortal grail]

The problem is always the contact to the cooler, not the rad capacity

[devout forum]

14700k it is

[modern imp]

I'm aware, but Arrow's quicksync is a massive upgrade

It's literally the full ARC encoder

[devout forum]

it's really a question of what you can stuff into that chassis without going full stupid

[mortal grail]

I'd do your research on that, it's also a double thick rad, so by principle it's not all similar

[fresh nova]

Window radiator when?

[mortal grail]

Double thick rads need good fans to match their normal thickness counterparts

[fresh nova]

Winter is coming

Time to set up my 3x window radiator build

I won’t have to run the heater this winter

[mortal grail]

I'm just happy my loop has improved dramatically with the fan swap

Finally feels like a loop should be lol

[fresh nova]

Imagine not heating your house with your PC

[mortal grail]

The room heats up about 5C over a couple hours haha

[devout forum]

I mean it cools a 13600K no problem

[mortal grail]

13600K is a lot less than a 14700k

[devout forum]

Yeah that

Is true

To quote KitGuru: "Cooler Master says is capable of cooling a 13900K CPU"

[mortal grail]

You can cool any cpu on any cooler with the right power limit

That's an empty statement

[devout forum]

Ye lol

7900X got to 75 C

but I know for a fact that is NOT comparable

dual CCD spreads heat out pretty well

[mortal grail]

Well more to the point AM5 is thermally limited by the ihs

It's not bad tho tbh

75c on that is decent

[devout forum]

14700K would honestly be kinda ideal

for what I need

[mental yoke]

Welp

[mortal grail]

In a case like that I'd think twice tho really

Make double sure it's fine

[mental yoke]

Now we just wait for everything to be delivered 🤩

[mortal grail]

14700k is the first step below the 400W monster that is the i9

[mental yoke]

My payment went through, made sure by checking my bank account

Thanks for the help and advice yall

[devout forum]

No biggie

[mental yoke]

Can't wait to build this new pc!!

[devout forum]

We all here to help honestly

oh yeah building is satisfying

[devout forum]

what's the diff between a 13600k and a 14700k?

in real world perf

would it be like actually something you feel?

[mortal grail]

In games like a few percent

[wary fjord]

No u don't feel

[mortal grail]

U mouse feel

[wary fjord]

^

XD

[mortal grail]

[wary fjord]

Snappy feel

[devout forum]

lol

so realistically outside of synthetics both are gud?

[mortal grail]

In games ye

13600K is like, only a few % off a 7800x3d and it's $200

Vs what 550?

4090-ass pricing

[devout forum]

Found it

[mortal grail]

Is that tech yes city

[devout forum]

It's a little borderline with the 14700K but

[devout forum]

Does that make it irrelevant?

[mortal grail]

Try another source

[devout forum]

Like I have not even watched his full vid

just needed to find temp data

[mortal grail]

Dude went crazy after becoming obsessed with mouse feel

[devout forum]

and nobody else seems to have put a 14700K tier system

WOW

This exists

so SOMEONE is willing to shove a 14700K system in it and sell as a product

[mortal grail]

4060ti

[devout forum]

IKR?

but yes only TYC put a 14700K into it

I'd label it as "borderline"

[wary fjord]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9GJxIIUojFg?si=il6CEhrLoumtQrXC

Sad

[wary fjord]

Theres no way thats 2 grand

[devout forum]

It's just marked up to hell and back

4060 Ti

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be

[mortal grail]

Imagine spending that kind of money for a pc that's half as fast as it could be

[devout forum]

IKR?

[mortal grail]

4060 Ti is such a scam

[devout forum]

It's great

nGreedAI at work again

[wary fjord]

But but ||dlss||

XD

[devout forum]

@mortal grail 7600X with a 4070 Ti Super good enough for 1440p right?

CPU won't hold the GPU back that much

if at all

[deep parcel]

I’ve never seen a device do this before lol. Intense memory leak.

[tranquil pebble]

That's to the point of system will likely lock up soon. Reboot is needed.

[deep parcel]

yeah... I full restarted it.

but the memory leak keeps happening so I might have to reinstall windows on it

its the windows install that came with the laptop

asus tuf a16 btw

[tranquil pebble]

also might want to upgrade to 32 GB if you can

[deep parcel]

not used for gaming, its just my moms laptop for browsing basically lol

[tranquil pebble]

ah ok

then definitely at least reinstall Windows if the leak is that bad

also yeah oem systems often need a reinstall anyways

[wary fjord]

U probably install some malware or something xS

[deep parcel]

Yeah... Asus Armory Crate

one of the main errors its been getting is an Asus framework error popup

[wary fjord]

I dont install that

XD never

U cant even uninstall it

The service is permanent on your system

Unless u manual remove it

[deep parcel]

yeah pretty much

but its necessary for some of the laptops functions

[wary fjord]

@mortal grail

[deep parcel]

lol

[wary fjord]

Pc has thruster xD

Another one why you should hold your fan fins while blasting it xD

It looks like gas lol xD

Is that even air

[tranquil pebble]

people not realizing that spinning a motor generates electricity... spinning it fast makes more... and then you get magic smoke and sometimes fire

the protection diode and whatnot can only take so much too

[young matrix]

@tranquil pebble rate the new pfp

[tranquil pebble]

dont like the new gen slang

FromSoft + Atlus = Elda Ring

[craggy shoal]

It's always the ones with the Funko Pops

Bruh it's even SITTING ON THE GPU 😭

I wouldn't be surprised if he found the Newegg server and slapped the question, "why am I getting artifacting?"

[misty sparrow]

It looks like the liquidy form that comes out of compressed air cans if you hold the can downwards

that is NOT air

[devout forum]

guy just has no clue

also that red cap

@wary fjord I have a sneaking suspicion it's some offbrand WD-40 copy

just based on how it lit up when the fan overspun

[craggy shoal]

"Why won't my computer turn on" ahh video

[devout forum]

ye

[wary fjord]

Aint wd for removing rust or something

XD

[devout forum]

it's a solvent/lube thing

but

actual WD isn't pressurized

despite the red cap

so God only know what the hell he sprayed that poor PC with

[cedar compass]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/904073551957614703/1003165002196340786/hattip-resize.gif

[unreal trail]

https://tenor.com/view/woohoo-pickle-dance-gif-16793549199557026959

[cedar compass]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/500102940078505984/1198019706620227824/bean.gif

RGBean

[misty sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/960914817160450078/971963706890145822/cure-outbreak.gif

[sinful blade]

You should be developing a love for mass effect

[misty sparrow]

I’ve been lying to you for months

[wary fjord]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Steam-adds-licensing-disclaimer-GOG-hits-back-with-perfectly-sarcastic-response.900401.0.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

Gog is chad

[misty sparrow]

I started mass effect 1 in may

On PlayStation, not PC

only a few hours haven’t played since

[mortal grail]

I'll mass your effects

@rancid juniper I went back to play NFS carbon for a dry run of my loop

Why is it that such a simple game is both properly challenging and not boring?

Wtf is wrong with modern games, I had a blast

And you'd think yeah, it's not the good one cos it's not most wanted

I still had way too much fun

[misty sparrow]

committing crimes is fun

[mortal grail]

I finished the game in 6 hours, regretted none of it

[misty sparrow]

always fun

[mortal grail]

Like that would've cost me $50 back then

Only 6 hours of gameplay

But who cares, it was too much fun

I turn on any other game these days and I'm bored after 20 minutes

Not even nostalgia, it was just a random urge

The game physics are more whack than I remember too

Despite my complaints, I still had way too much fun

Is that weird? Does that feel like I'm way off base?

[worthy meteor]

gotta be invested in a game to keep playing it

[mortal grail]

True

But I was being bored out of my brain watching the cutscenes

Apart from that, the game was just plain fun

Police chases in those old NFS games are still as good as I remember tho

MAN

Those are FUN af

If I think about it a little more, I think the difficulty was the main thing that kept me hooked

Game felt like a proper challenge and it had no difficulty slider

It just tries to be challenging

[worthy meteor]

I am starting to be curious what my steam year in review is going to look like

[rancid juniper]

Bro is going to forget about the loop all together

[mortal grail]

?

[rancid juniper]

Meaning, you'll only focus on the game for hours because it's fun

[worthy tapir]

https://youtu.be/Hhg2Yc3Iu8w?si=0SEt1AHOQQPW-Exj

When games were good

[rancid juniper]

Have y'all seen the price for RDR1 on PC?

[worthy meteor]

$50

[mortal grail]

Oh, yeah that's exactly what happened 💀

[rancid juniper]

So trash

[mortal grail]

Here's a weird fact

[misty sparrow]

Let me guess, stupidly high?

[rancid juniper]

Yep..

[misty sparrow]

how high

[mortal grail]

Pink slip for boss cars is always second slot

[rancid juniper]

Like what mr1111 said, $50

[misty sparrow]

$50?

[rancid juniper]

Yuh

[misty sparrow]

I can buy a used Xbox 360 copy for less

And also a used Xbox 360 console

[rancid juniper]

🤔

[misty sparrow]

or Xbox one

Well good thing I can just wait for steam sales lmao

it’ll get cheap by then

[mortal grail]

I kept trying to change rng

[worthy tapir]

I hope the new halo on unreal engine isn't just a "look at the pretty graphics and feel nostalgia with terrible story"

[mortal grail]

Turns out, all 3 were constantly hiding under card #2

You get to pick from 4 cards

There's no RNG lmao

[rancid juniper]

Ez cheese

[rancid juniper]

It's def going to be that

Devs now are continuing to chase graphics instead of putting gameplay/performance first

[mortal grail]

Depends if MS feel like they've learned their lesson after the disaster of their games from the 18/6 rule

[rancid juniper]

Na they never do

[mortal grail]

Both infinite AND FM8 dropped the ball because of 18/6

[worthy tapir]

Infinite was fun for a playthrough. Something to do. But it never really captured my attention.

[misty sparrow]

What’s 18/6? contractor work or something?

[rancid juniper]

The only benefit I see them using unreal is the fact that newcomers won't have to "relearn" the engine. They are expected to know unreal engine 5 when they're hired

[rancid juniper]

Bingo

[misty sparrow]

Yeah contractor work on proprietary engines is what killed it

if they’re switching to unreal then it’ll work better

but they never should have used contractors

[rancid juniper]

^^^

They trying to save a buck or two

[worthy tapir]

Didn't they waste all their time and resources trying to stabilize a broken game engine?

[mortal grail]

Infinite is the last game I didn't finish from the series

[rancid juniper]

That's bethesda

[mortal grail]

I even finished halo 5 and I hated that one

Lol

[misty sparrow]

They spent all that money making a new engine only for it to go to waste because they’re trying to switch to unreal

[mortal grail]

By the time I hit that elite boss, I was bored

Like, eyes trying to sleep while playing bored

Lol

[misty sparrow]

I really wanted infinite to be good

[worthy tapir]

Halo 4 was alright... but halo died on Reach

[mortal grail]

Truly did

[misty sparrow]

I think it would’ve been better if there was more than one biome

[mortal grail]

Reach was the greatest halo ever

[misty sparrow]

and a better story

[mortal grail]

The best halo of today is destiny 2

[worthy tapir]

I wish I never got rid of my halo reach 360

[rancid juniper]

Rumors say that 343... I mean "halo studios" is remaking Halo CE on UE5

Let the stutterfest begin once more!

[mortal grail]

GOD PLEASE STOP IT

[rancid juniper]

Nope

[mortal grail]

CE WAS NEVER NEEDED

WHY AGAIN

[rancid juniper]

😏

[worthy tapir]

Halo CE 2 electric boogaloo

[mortal grail]

CE 3

[sinful blade]

DESTINY 2 BAAABYYYYYYYY

[mortal grail]

Return of the Chiefs

[rancid juniper]

Bungie is in a strange place

[worthy tapir]

Remake destiny 1 on PC and I'll play

[sinful blade]

Get on pc

[sinful blade]

Remaking bad game L

[sinful blade]

Pete parsons fault

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/3Y3d2-fnmJk?si=6lG5XAk8a9MDxd_K

damn

[worthy tapir]

1 was better. 2 is cringe

[rancid juniper]

The only UE5 game that surprised me was Dragon Ball: sparking zero

[worthy tapir]

Well everything after forsaken

[sinful blade]

Rose tinted glasses

[mortal grail]

I'd play D1 on PC

[rancid juniper]

Performance is very good and the art style is clean

[mortal grail]

I liked D1

[rancid juniper]

Lol

[mortal grail]

You say that after the what, 8 years of playing on the same 6 or so planets with the addition and loss of 1 or 2 between

Going back to an older version for a change of pace wouldn't be rejectable lol

[sinful blade]

I spent 3k hours on d1
I have spent 11k on d2

[mortal grail]

You sir have the attention of a statue

[worthy tapir]

They lost me when they made shaxx sing a song about the moon being made of cheese 💀

[mortal grail]

I couldn't sit in front of D2 after like 1K hours lmao

[sinful blade]

I went back to d1 during the dead times of y2&3

Then realizing it just sucked

[mortal grail]

Leave it to a JP IP to do a good job

[sinful blade]

Peak d2

[rancid juniper]

can play this at 1440p max 120+ fps

[mortal grail]

That was like 5 years ago lol

[worthy tapir]

Taken king was prime destiny

[sinful blade]

Because it fixed y1s mistakes

Y1 was a terrible time to play due to strict metas, lack of content, etc.

[mortal grail]

I'd consider maybe going back to D2 if I could fix all the gear they forced me to sunset

Even then, I'm really not all that bothered now

[sinful blade]

D1 still suffers from a horrible meta in pvp and pve, weapon types that just suck outright(see scouts or 150 hcs), lack of meaningful content, and oh yeah, 0 updates

[mortal grail]

Hindsight has me remembering it was just a farming fest for a few hours a day

[sinful blade]

they did

@mortal grail you can use any weapon from any time in destiny 2 you may have

[mortal grail]

Yeah but can I keep all my old rolls

[sinful blade]

Yes

[mortal grail]

Like, use all of it now without just throwing it away or "reforging" like that stupid stuff they had before

[sinful blade]

If you can’t obtain the guns now, they are working on slowly(per expansion), getting you all the weapons back

[sinful blade]

Using all of it now

[mortal grail]

And it works at the max light level?

[sinful blade]

My midnight coup from y1? I can use that and infuse it no problem

Yes

[mortal grail]

Not just the legendaries

Things like the epic weapons

Old armour

[sinful blade]

Yes

I use my trials of the nine smg in current content all the time

[mortal grail]

Maybe I'll ask my old friends for another round then

[sinful blade]

I will also help you catch up

[mortal grail]

I tried going back, I was bored in like 10 minutes

I don't need help

I need motivation

If I'm disinterested then that's final

[sinful blade]

There’s a lot of rewards to chase now
Lot of very good looking armour
Lot of stuff is no longer locked behind silver, but can be obtained with bright dust(which can be obtained very easily very fast)

[mortal grail]

Ok you know why I put a ton of emphasis on that

I don't really care for the aesthetics, I cared for the gear

Cos I built a playstyle that I was dead set on and adjusted

[sinful blade]

There is a lot of gear and play styles to be played

[mortal grail]

Changing all that to something else, when I was becoming very good at what I was using had me instantly turned off

[mortal grail]

I wouldn't mind that if I was like you, had way more than 1K hours lol

But I was finding my groove then I learn my gear is on the way out

It just completely disconnected me from the game

[sinful blade]

No gear is on the way out

[mortal grail]

At the time it was

[sinful blade]

Every subclass is viable
Every weapon is as well

[mortal grail]

I know that

But at the time it just felt like I had lost most or all of my work I had farmed for all the gear

And that was enough to break my interest lol

[sinful blade]

That’s understandable

But now you don’t gotta worry about that:D

[mortal grail]

If I get interested again in it, cool

But atm I am at most only thinking about it cos I also remember how much grinding was involved on the daily

[sinful blade]

This season is 3 months long
So you don’t gotta grind a lot in one day

[mortal grail]

That's not what I meant

Every day you go do a daily grind, I'm the glass full or glass empty kinda person

If I commit I commit all the way

[sinful blade]

You have plenty to grind for

[mortal grail]

So that includes every shard every farmable item in a day

[sinful blade]

There are very many things to do then

[mortal grail]

Yes, and that's daunting to think about

Lol

Anyway, moving on

I don't want to keep burying into this

[sinful blade]

Gotcha

https://www.jawa.gg/product/44399/radeon-rx-6500-xt-ryzen-3-2200g-16gb-ddr4-500gb-ssd
felix why don’t I have $200

[fresh nova]

Does anyone want a 6 month Sirius XM code

Just lmk I got it with the Best Buy membership thing

Don't use that

[mortal grail]

What's sirius xm

[fresh nova]

No idea

Was hoping someone could use it

[sinful blade]

Music stream

[mortal grail]

It could be drugs

[fresh nova]

https://tenor.com/view/mmmkay-south-park-randy-marsh-gif-27243386

[granite estuary]

Hi

Good laptop for school around $700-$1000

Any recommendations?

Canada dollar

[devout forum]

hold on

has the LGA-1700 bending issue ever been resolved?

or you just need a contact frame with them?

[worthy meteor]

not entirely, contact frame can still help, supposedly lga1851 is going to be different and might fix it..?

[mental yoke]

She's beautiful isn't she?

[worthy meteor]

quite good

[mental yoke]

(Not mine, but a friends' build.)

[devout forum]

I mean is it like

Super mandatory if you build it new?

or you'll probably be okay

[worthy meteor]

It's a long term problem, something like nothing performance wise for the first 3 months, then starts to affect performance, like say 0c difference first day, 2c difference 3 months in, 5c difference 6 months in, or something like that

the numbers are half made up, but the 5c figure for long term is from
https://www.igorslab.de/en/alder-lakes-cooling-problem-bend-again-around-5c-ilm-mod-for-intel-lga1700-socket/

[fresh nova]

How about Game Pass Ultimate

Anyone want a free month

[devout forum]

Sure lmao

oh @mortal grail found some reference
the Ncore 100 Max can keep a 7950X at max turbo clocks and 88 degrees under full synthetic load (drawing 207 watts)

[mortal grail]

Only on some

[devout forum]

I think it SHOULD be able to handle a stock settings 14700K

[mortal grail]

That doesn't mean 14700k is fine

[mortal grail]

Some boards have revised ILMs

Not all

[devout forum]

It's at least SOME reference considering that's the closest I found

[fresh nova]

🤢

[rancid juniper]

EW

[fresh nova]

This one getting deleted

[devout forum]

only TYC put a 14700K in it

[fresh nova]

Nobody gets the code, I couldn't do that to someone.

[mortal grail]

He's deranged tho so doesn't count

[fresh nova]

Anyone use Sirius XM tho lmk

[devout forum]

I'm only saying that for reference

[fresh nova]

I'll hold on to the 6 month code.

[devout forum]

it SHOULD be alright

[rancid juniper]

lol i used this for my motherboard

[devout forum]

undervolting should help

[rancid juniper]

definitely

processor already strong just undervolt the chip

adding more mhz is unnecessary

[devout forum]

my goal is more to lower temps rather than anything else

cuz I plan on running it in an ITX case with a thicc 120 rad AIO

[rancid juniper]

ooooo

[devout forum]

Ncore 100 Max

that really nice Cooler Master obelisk case

I mean
It kinda speaks for itself why undervolting is great

same FPS, 30% lower power draw, 10% lower temp

[devout forum]

Does this look like the revised ILM to you?

I have no idea, so it's safer to ask

[sinful blade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQPomw5UBCU
@mortal grail

[fresh nova]

Gonna post here for everyone

It’s about to go down head 2 head

The best 14” from Asus vs the best 14” from HP

[worthy meteor]

time for benchmarks

[craggy shoal]

There's a techie chat?

Bruh

Hidden chats all in this server

[proud jackal]

Shhh

[rancid juniper]

why me no techie yet?

[fresh nova]

Oh shooit

[rancid juniper]

exposed

[fresh nova]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

OneDrive is the most bloatware software I've ever seen

[rancid juniper]

terrible backup software imo

[fresh nova]

So far the ROG 14" with the AMD feels snapier.

The Intel Ultra is kinda glitchy at times, it's hard to explain

I think it's the e-core & p-cores

[rancid juniper]

i have yet to try ryzen

dayum

[mental yoke]

Guys!

Some of my new pc parts are arriving today!!

[rancid juniper]

nice

[worthy tapir]

In other discord servers I'm the knowledgeable tech guy. In here I'm an idiot 😎

[lavish charm]

is it normal my prebuilt cpu goes up to 95 celcius its a i7 13700f

[surreal kernel]

the case sold out god damnit

[surreal kernel]

compooper I can never catch a break I swear

[rancid juniper]

what...is...it...this...time?

oh

[rancid juniper]

um, well these cpus are designed to hit high temperatures but i think you need to check your cooling

and update your bios while you're at it

if your board supports undervolting then do it immediately

[craggy shoal]

y'all talking crap about us in the techie channel I bet lol

[lone mango]

[craggy shoal]

lol

[proud jackal]

They do.

[topaz crown]

lara.briston was banned. | No reason given.

[proud jackal]

[mortal grail]

☠️☠️☠️

[craggy shoal]

Still don't get how some people think iPads are basically whole computers

[fresh nova]

I used one of those Lenovo things with the 2 screens & no keyboard

It was an experience...

[pliant berry]

Some people still use phones as their only computers

[fresh nova]

This Ryzen is smoking the Ultra 9 in every test so far

[wary fjord]

Amd amd

Found a useful video how to calculate the shots on billiard

Using grid and simple math

[fresh nova]

These are both the same exact priced laptop

Same specs, different processor. One is significantly better.

ASUS ftw right now

[proud jackal]

INTEL 285K WILL BE THE BEST

[unreal trail]

Donald Duck

[mental yoke]

Hey y'all

[unreal trail]

Did you get those outlets installed?

[mental yoke]

Yep

Almost died twice

[unreal trail]

dang

[misty sparrow]

D2 story kinda mid

[surreal kernel]

the case that I was going to buy sold out

[rancid juniper]

💀

[velvet summit]

i've gotten into another part of youtube i never knew existed

the waterbottle enthusiast youtube

[sinful blade]

F

[surreal kernel]

any other suggestions ?

[velvet summit]

https://youtu.be/bVKXiFrTcCg

[rancid juniper]

LMAO

[pliant berry]

Yikes

[velvet summit]

ps4?

another day another not-ps5 exclusive

[lone mango]

Who

[lone mango]

[dusk knot]

Hhm

[tranquil pebble]

this console gen has been pretty bad IMO

[sinful blade]

903 MAX

[surreal kernel]

from montech?

it's white though

but it looks good ngl

considering that I have ugly hardware and its all black

[velvet summit]

xbox is killing it

gamepass was a gamechanger for microsoft

[tranquil pebble]

imagine actually using this refresh rate

[lone mango]

Cinematic

[pliant berry]

But why not

[lone mango]

almost

[dusk knot]

Ew

[sinful blade]

Yes

It comes in black too I believe

[surreal kernel]

not avaliable here

I can't imagine how that case will look with my ugly matx board

and my stupid 6600

[sinful blade]

It’s a fantastic case

So it’ll probably make your parts look small lmao

[surreal kernel]

exactly 😭😭

but ima go for it

[sinful blade]

Lian Li’s Lancool 216 is one of my favourite looking cases

[surreal kernel]

280 for a case and a powersupply

hopefully it don't get sold out

[sinful blade]

It’s a bit tight

[surreal kernel]

wait ima save this one too

[sinful blade]

Hopium

[queen condor]

hey guys, im looking for a gaming laptop under 1k usd (converted from my budget in inr). I'll also be using it for studies at uni, so a decent battery life when not gaming would be appreciated. Lmk if there are any suggestions. Thanks!

[surreal kernel]

since im short on money

[surreal kernel]

at its finest

thank uu

[sinful blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QcddnQ/lian-li-lancool-216-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-216rw

[sinful blade]

@elfin mural time to work

[mental yoke]

LOL

[fresh nova]

Boys

I have numbers

First real numbers from a game

[mental yoke]

Not the laptop used as a mouse pad

[dusk knot]

Spexxx?

[mental yoke]

So are we gonna talk about how the 5090 will have 32GB of VRAM??

(According to leakers)

[dusk knot]

It's going down to 16gb

[sinful blade]

The 5070 being 12gb is criminal

[fresh nova]

Both have 32GB ram, OLED screens & 4070m only difference is HP has the Ultra 9 from Intel & Asus has the Ryzen 9

Also I think HP put the 💩 4070 & Asus used the higher TDP one

Only thing I can think to produce this much difference in FPS