general-chat

[mortal grail]

That was a fever dream if ever

At $200 you get the choice of a rubbish 3050, or a used 1080Ti/Xp

Latter is easily better, but comparable to 5700XT so the value is meh

[misty sparrow]

$270 brand new for a 3060ti would be good value

[mortal grail]

Yeah it was

[misty sparrow]

but I guess you can only really get that price used

[mortal grail]

I was recommending it to everyone

It disappeared very fast

Lol

[misty sparrow]

what are they priced at now, $300?

$350?

[mortal grail]

330 iirc

Which is outmatched by 6700xt/6750xt

[misty sparrow]

damn, that’s about half what I paid for the prebuilt I bought

[mortal grail]

6700xt is easily my favourite card of the last few generations

It ran great

And it was great value

For a LONG time

[misty sparrow]

I heard about it

[mortal grail]

It's held up ridiculously well

I bought one and sold it, I miss it regularly

I only had possession of it for like 2 days lmao

[misty sparrow]

Why’d you sell it then

[mortal grail]

Best friend wanted a computer

I wasn't gonna give him trash parts lol

And no I didn't rip him off ☠️

Bro got mates rates

I can't remember the total value of the kit I sold him but it was at least half the normal price

[opaque sedge]

Oh I remember i think you posted the build here once

[mortal grail]

Would've been a LONG time ago

That was about 2 years ago

Had my 10850K in it

[opaque sedge]

Hmm then must have been a reddit post

I can’t remember straight for some reason

[mortal grail]

Can't see it in search

Don't think I posted it here

I still have the box tho

[misty sparrow]

Your friend needs that box

[mortal grail]

I use it for storing stuff don't worry

It ain't going anywhere

He's got too many kids to show off his own cool stuff 😂

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-coffee-bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-gif-bocchi-funny-gif-27325558

[misty sparrow]

it’s just nice to keep boxes for some reason and I don’t know why

especially if they are really nice

[mortal grail]

It was ngl

Gigabyte, albeit cardboard and plain, nice unbox

[misty sparrow]

Oh right forgot they made gpus

[rancid juniper]

gigglebytes

[misty sparrow]

gigabyte when a new company called “terabyte” opens

[rancid juniper]

its over

[misty sparrow]

say that, again

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-16704157274113773062

[rancid juniper]

its JO-----

[cedar compass]

[opaque sedge]

@sweet phoenix hey wondering what you think of the 4070ti super? And will a non atx 3.0 power supply be fine with it? Its an xpg core reactor 850w

Man looking at nvidia offerings i could never realize how hard they trolled with the 40 series

[misty sparrow]

Maybe 5000 series will be better for the 60 and 70 classes

[opaque sedge]

Knowing how nvidia treated the 60 class for 40 series I honestly would not be surprised if they end up removing it altogether this gen

[elfin mural]

they cant and wont remove it

that's where they sell the most gpus

but they'll sabotage it

[worthy tapir]

Iphone 16 launch day at my store be like

[opaque sedge]

They’re gonna make it the secret 40 tier card

[opaque sedge]

New phones have been mid for a while tbh

[oak gale]

my laptop is absolutely dying and i don't know why 🔥

[opaque sedge]

Also pretty sure most peeps get their phones from their carriers now

[pliant berry]

alright do i buy a 16 pro

[dusk knot]

No

[opaque sedge]

I’m probably gonna get one from att they’re offering 1k for my 13pro

[opaque sedge]

Reasoning

My charging port doesn’t work

Been using wireless for a while

[dusk knot]

What do you have now?

[opaque sedge]

Oh crap wait

[pliant berry]

must be nice, they are offering 60usd for my phone...

[opaque sedge]

They might not take it

Fml

[pliant berry]

se gen 2

[dusk knot]

How old is that?

[pliant berry]

it's only like 4 years old

but ive been using my phone a lot more with all this traveling and it's starting to fail me

[dusk knot]

Upgrade

[pliant berry]

[worthy tapir]

I am a carrier stand alone store

[pliant berry]

ill prob just get the pro non max

[worthy tapir]

Nice they made the pro slightly bigger this time

[opaque sedge]

Wait you own one? A store?

[pliant berry]

the max is just too big

[opaque sedge]

Or do you work there

[worthy tapir]

Se gen 2 is an iPhone 11 in iPhone 8 shell basically

[dusk knot]

Ah

[opaque sedge]

The 11s were goated

[worthy tapir]

No just work in one

[mortal grail]

I literally just bought a gen 3 for 200

They're high

[worthy tapir]

Gen 3 se is iPhone 13 chip

[mortal grail]

Those are worth 130 minimum

Yes

I specifically picked that

[pliant berry]

on 3rd party market? yes. according to apple and carriers? no

[opaque sedge]

Phones dont seem worth it all nowadays

Especially after i got into pcs

Would rather spend scratch on gpus

[pliant berry]

problem is i am never home to use pc now

[opaque sedge]

Ok this might be a downward spiral ngl

[worthy tapir]

I get new phones cheap because of employee perks so I'm pretty numb to any new phone excitement

[mortal grail]

I had to meet a few criteria

SE was the cheapest nice iphone I saw

Not me using it btw I have a sony lmao

[opaque sedge]

Guys we all made fun of the ps5 pro a crapload but idk why i’m scared of a huge nvidia sabotage coming up, i can almost feel it

Is this karmic retribution

[worthy tapir]

Ps5 pro 30th anniversary not having a disc drive is so goofy

[rancid juniper]

crazy how it takes the PS anniversary to make people switch sides immediately

[mortal grail]

Shrinkflation part 2 is coming, all the signs are pointing to it

[opaque sedge]

Man i’m never making fun of console glazers ever again pls god pls fix the gpu market

[worthy tapir]

Damn AT&T too cheap to pay for windows 😂

[opaque sedge]

And my relationship with my parents too if it isn’t too much god

[storm narwhal]

And too dumb to figure out how to get rid of it

[opaque sedge]

Maybe i’m asking for too much…

[opaque sedge]

Bruh couldn’t they get legit windows for cheap considering they’re a corp

@mortal grail hey felix what are signs of bad power supply?

[craggy shoal]

Bruh they could do it (unethically) for free 💀

[opaque sedge]

Oh crap sorry i forgot you must be at work

[opaque sedge]

Hey motor what are signs of bad supply?

[craggy shoal]

What's your symptoms?

[opaque sedge]

Cuz i think I remember hearing a pop yesterday when I rebooted my pc after ddu

And this

Maybe my power supply broke my gpu?

[craggy shoal]

What PSU do you have?

[craggy shoal]

This in particular is the GPU. The PSU wouldn't have anything to do with this

[opaque sedge]

Xpg core reactor 1 850w

Gotcha

[craggy shoal]

A-tier PSU. I doubt it's dying/dead

Some PSUs will make a pop/click on boot up and power off. Pretty much all of my PSUs do this lol

[mortal grail]

Kernel 41 events

Also see: rogue shorts

Psu can do anything tho

[craggy shoal]

what 💀 nvm + ur mom

[mortal grail]

It could start playing techno music and it's somehow the psu dying

[opaque sedge]

I have successfully extracted the problem child

Time to take it to papa microcenter

[craggy shoal]

(again)

lol

[opaque sedge]

Comrades

If i return from microcenter

I will have come back with another 7900xt

[craggy shoal]

Just play from the iGPU atp lol

[strange narwhal]

guys im planning to get a new gpu idk what to get
4070 or 7800 XT
btw 4070 is slightly cheaper
29$

[opaque sedge]

Or have joined the dark side

[mortal grail]

THROW IT INTO THE PIT OF FIRE FINGERS

[craggy shoal]

7800 XT

[opaque sedge]

Pls forgive me if i do

[mortal grail]

THROW THE RING GPU

[strange narwhal]

aight

thx

I will search more

[mortal grail]

7800xt by a mile

4070 is like top 3 worst value new cards

7800xt is top 3 best

Performance per dollar on 4070 is awful

[strange narwhal]

in amazon 4070 is slightly cheaper

[opaque sedge]

I should install this bad boy while i have the chance

[craggy shoal]

"but Nvidia does better at ray tracing" yeah but it still isn't great

[mortal grail]

If you want a 4070 get a 4070 super

[strange narwhal]

yup

[mortal grail]

It doesn't compare to 7800xt

[opaque sedge]

I wont need a heatsink for a sn580 right?

[strange narwhal]

Im building it for a friend and he wants it from amazon

monthly payments

[opaque sedge]

Yh for 40 series its either 4070s or go double and get the 4080s

Done

[strange narwhal]

thank u guys

[strange narwhal]

[opaque sedge]

What else do i need to do btw?

[mortal grail]

Below 4070S, go used any of these: 3080, used 2080TI, 3070, 3060 12gb, 1080Ti/Titan Xp

The value on new nvidia on mid to low end is awful

[strange narwhal]

fr

[opaque sedge]

Felix quick question will a 4070ti super be fine with a xpg core reactor 1 850w?

[craggy shoal]

4080 Super be like: complete garbage value but you won't have to upgrade for at least a few years but you'll probably still upgrade the next year and cry at expensive Nvidia prices because you thought your 1- or 2-year-old GPU was outdated

[opaque sedge]

Thats the 4070ti super

And the crap i might fall into today

[mortal grail]

I'd never recommend that card like ever

[craggy shoal]

That one too but it's the forgotten 4K-Super

💀

[opaque sedge]

I’m just scared getting another 7900xt

[mortal grail]

Understandable, 4070 super

The 4070 Ti/S are both terrible value

[craggy shoal]

4070 Super be like: too poor to afford the 4080 Super but also forgot about the 4070 Ti Super so now you regret your purchasing decision of getting a 4070 Super ROG Strix because you wanted to flex on having three fans on your two-fan GPU (you could've gotten at least a 4070 Ti Super for that kind of money)

(Ask me how I know)

[opaque sedge]

Did you really pay this much for yours?

730 bucks for a 4070 super is demented

[craggy shoal]

My mom paid for it lol

[mortal grail]

Rich

[opaque sedge]

Good mom she tried to get you something bougie

[craggy shoal]

lol we own our own fuel delivery company

[opaque sedge]

👁️👄👁️

[mortal grail]

Is she single

[opaque sedge]

You should not be complaining about money problems

[mortal grail]

Jk

[opaque sedge]

Reminds me my dad’s coworker who is 22 is dating a 42 year woman with kids wanna guess why?

[craggy shoal]

True but I still work two jobs that both don't even pay $20 and that's my only income lol

[opaque sedge]

Aren’t you an it guy?

[craggy shoal]

don't even have to guess

[craggy shoal]

Yes

[mortal grail]

Drugs

[opaque sedge]

Yes the dude works just above minimum wage living in an hcol

[opaque sedge]

Uh no cuz he can’t afford to live by himself

Nvidia has made you guys assume the worst of things fr

[mortal grail]

Nah I just enjoy throwing conversation grenades

[opaque sedge]

Alright showering wearing my best hoodie and heading out to microcenter gotta be my best at such a sacred place

[craggy shoal]

Conversation grenades are cool but have you ever stuck your hands inside of a kangaroo?

[mortal grail]

Ever tried on your focus?

[opaque sedge]

Bruh its a scientific term

[opaque sedge]

Pouch mouth or behind?

[mortal grail]

Might deserve a hand or two to fix all the loose bolts

[craggy shoal]

behind of course

[opaque sedge]

👁️👄👁️

I am a fool to expect the best of people

[mortal grail]

When you're around each other a few years you cut loose

[opaque sedge]

Btw 4080 super is overkill for 1440p right?

[mortal grail]

I gotta be an ass it keeps things interesting

[mortal grail]

Yes

But not so overkill I'd say don't

[craggy shoal]

Yes but that also means you won't have to upgrade for a while lol

[mortal grail]

Yeah

[opaque sedge]

Man really wish i had someway to use my computer to have an income

Then i could justify a 4080s

And a 5080 at release

[mortal grail]

That on high end 1440p is forgivable tbh

Like 240hz oled

[opaque sedge]

Hah high end 1440p on my cheapie 165hz

https://tenor.com/view/cry-crying-cat-crying-cat-cry-why-gif-27571714

(Its really good tho)

[mortal grail]

I would know ye

Lol

[opaque sedge]

You overspent on your pc and had to cut down on a monitor too?

[mortal grail]

No I cut up on a monitor

Lmao

Hell, I had the monitor first

43" tv goes a long way

[opaque sedge]

Bro did the opposite 😭

Ngl smart idea

Monitors are probably the closest pc thing we have that is somewhat futureproof

[mortal grail]

Don't bottleneck urself

Monitor is like the wheels of the car

They make the car do what it needs to do

[proud jackal]

I wish I had a good monitor like you guys

[mortal grail]

Everything else comes after

[mortal grail]

Shut up c2 owner

[proud jackal]

C1

[strange narwhal]

is it bad to get 8x4 ddr5?

[opaque sedge]

There three things a man should not skimp out on in his life
A monitor
A power supply
And tires (you owe tires your life)

[craggy shoal]

no?

[opaque sedge]

They sell 8 gig sticks of ddr5?

[strange narwhal]

I see a lot of people saying 8x4 is bad just get 16x2

[mortal grail]

Yes

8x4 is half rank

[strange narwhal]

i wanna get 8x2

[mortal grail]

It's crippled ddr5

[strange narwhal]

i will upgrade it later

[mortal grail]

8gb is half rank

It's slower

If you want ddr5 get 2x16 and NEVER MIX

Mixing is chaos on ddr5

Worse than ddr4

[strange narwhal]

damn

[opaque sedge]

Felix!!! We gotta be inclusive remember

[strange narwhal]

im mixing btw

ddr4

[opaque sedge]

Huh

[rancid juniper]

ARE YA MIXING STICKS?

[strange narwhal]

well

not ddr5

[opaque sedge]

No no no the main concern is mixing ddr4 and 5

[strange narwhal]

mixing ddr4

[opaque sedge]

Ohhh

[strange narwhal]

48gb or ram 😎

[rancid juniper]

how does that workZ?

[opaque sedge]

WAIT UR MIXING STICKS

[lone mango]

Games look so good on my brothers monitor its crazy

[opaque sedge]

Delayed onset reaction forgive me

[strange narwhal]

u cant mix ddr4 and 5

right?

it wont fit

[opaque sedge]

Nope

They make to sure to change to sockets each gen

[mortal grail]

8gb ddr5 is poopy butthole

[opaque sedge]

How is this not censored but the scientific term is

[strange narwhal]

I meant 8x2

for now

[mortal grail]

Don't

[strange narwhal]

aight

[mortal grail]

If you want ddr5

[strange narwhal]

just get 32

[mortal grail]

2x16 min

Yes

[strange narwhal]

got it

[mortal grail]

No 8gb sticks

[strange narwhal]

[opaque sedge]

What does dynobot want me to say? Rectum?

[opaque sedge]

Ok rectum isn’t censored

[craggy shoal]

I mean I'd hope it wouldn't be censored. It's just a body part

[strange narwhal]

is 7700xt worth it?

[opaque sedge]

Grrrraaaa

F u dynobot

[craggy shoal]

But if you said something like ||up your rectum|| yeah maybe that specific string should be censored 💀

[rancid juniper]

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1004644552709246996.gif?size=160&quality=lossless

[mortal grail]

380-ish is a good price

[opaque sedge]

Oh you beautiful thing why do you have to make my life so difficult, thats my parents’ job not yours

[unreal trail]

brilliant concepts

[dusk knot]

Hmm yes

[devout forum]

NGL

I am starting to have more and more appeal for smaller towers like the D41

This Air X is imposing and looks cool with the 2×200mm fans sure

But it's taking up so much of my desk space...

[opaque sedge]

Its a sad day today

[devout forum]

Aw

She served admirably

[devout forum]

6900XT?

Or 6950XT

[devout forum]

@mortal grail Wanna hear a conspiracy theory?

5090 is probably not gonna be much faster than the 4090 per watt

(I hope I'll be proven very wrong)

[proud jackal]

[devout forum]

But ye it kinda feels like top-end graphics market is going to massively stagnate for a good while

[mortal grail]

It will be but I'm expecting a 2K price tag

[devout forum]

With AMD not even competing anymore

nGreedAI can literally charge however much they want

Cuz without halo tier products
You don't get the influencer marketing, and that's gonna keep AMD from gaining market share

[dusk knot]

Tech is slowing down

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-oh-the-misery-everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-gif-25368312

https://tenor.com/view/everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-gif-25993625

[devout forum]

P sure there's a bunch of big new innovations around the corner

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/spare-spare-the-sympathy-the-sympathy-wawa-cat-gif-25825252

[proud jackal]

no more gaming

Just AI

5090 NEVER

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/WcGJmev2718?si=QxHW7LXnO7tzLSO7

I’ll stand for the anthem

[mortal grail]

Almost half the next generation has already fallen flat

[devout forum]

I more mean technology-wise (like the new substrate tech that was in the news lately making processors a lot faster again)

[mortal grail]

Intel is on the brink of micro scale fibreoptics

[devout forum]

It feels like there's something big coming and we're just stuck waiting for that while companies squeeze every last dollar they can from current techs

[mortal grail]

When that becomes mainstream, performance will implode

Fibre >>>>>> copper

And gold

[proud jackal]

Humans, the next super conductor.

[mortal grail]

Theo I need to take the train

Will u be my battery

You'll be 273K° for just 10 seconds

[rancid juniper]

the pc case is sooo good

GPU barely cracks 60c on the core

[sweet phoenix]

Yes

[proud jackal]

I'll run a train on you

[mortal grail]

Ur a mod

I need an adult

[devout forum]

@mortal grail yo is it normal that I kinda feel lacking with a 6700XT by now?

Like should I feel lacking?

[mortal grail]

Bruh I'd use a 6700xt if I got given one

That's like one of my all time favourite cards

[devout forum]

It's cool, just

Idk she don't really feel enough

Not gonna toss it in the garbage tho

[mortal grail]

I've seen the whole gamut now

Tbh

[devout forum]

Don't got anything better rn anyway

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/all-aboard-train-choo-choo-express-locomotive-gif-20501901

[mortal grail]

I could make do with less

[devout forum]

So I'm just gonna use what I got

[proud jackal]

Gifs not working again?

[mortal grail]

Git rekt

[devout forum]

TBF

[mortal grail]

I'll show you choo choo

[devout forum]

It's not a bad card at all

I guess I'm just wishing I had the latest stuff

Haven't exactly had much for a very long time so

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-ultimate-ax-dizzy-gif-13659733

[devout forum]

Kinda wish I had the newest toy on the block

[candid crane]

The new x870e motherboards from asus are so nice looking 🤤

[opaque sedge]

@mortal grail is this aib good for the 4070 super?

Yo NOOO WAYY @mortal grail @craggy shoal @rancid juniper

[devout forum]

Way too expensive tho

[rancid juniper]

deepcool?

in the US?

[devout forum]

P sure that's okay as long as the stock was acquired before the sanctions went into effect

[rancid juniper]

ah

[devout forum]

Just
Can't order new stock

[candid crane]

I'd be coming from an overpriced strix z690 anyways lol

[rancid juniper]

well even if deepcool wont be in stock we still got thermalright offerings

[candid crane]

Probably not going to buy anything until benchmarks on 9000x3d chips are out (so like 6 months or more from now)

[devout forum]

I mean if you already are running a Z690 build
Why get one?

[opaque sedge]

In MICROCENTER

[candid crane]

Why not?

[rancid juniper]

ofc microcenter got the rarities

[devout forum]

Also
Just get a B650E if you want to build

[opaque sedge]

No aios tho sadly

[devout forum]

X870E is designed to whale people basically

[candid crane]

Trust me, i want the extra features lol

[devout forum]

X670 stuff might get affordable as a result tho

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1004644552709246996.gif?size=160&quality=lossless

[mortal grail]

asrock

[rancid juniper]

assrock

[devout forum]

Ah so you do LN2 overclocking and you don't already get all your boards and parts sponsored?

[mortal grail]

It's fine

[opaque sedge]

Btw which 4070 super aib should i get?

[devout forum]

Also yeah Asrock is really good rn

[candid crane]

I've had over 20 dead asrock boards lol

[rancid juniper]

wtf

[devout forum]

Asrock IS the meta rn

[opaque sedge]

Or should i get the gigantic tuf 4070 ti super

[candid crane]

Not using them for motherboards ever again

[devout forum]

Asus is dogwater currently

[mortal grail]

And my asus x670e died two weeks ago, doesn't mean anything

[devout forum]

Like actually hard avoid @candid crane

[opaque sedge]

(Can’t afford another psu for the 4080super)

[mortal grail]

Asrock is the better am5 pick by objective

[opaque sedge]

Smh overclockers

[devout forum]

Just don't buy anything Asus for now

[tranquil pebble]

It would be nice if corps could not be scumbags for once

[opaque sedge]

You warned me three months too LATE

[tranquil pebble]

these mobo prices are getting absurd

[mortal grail]

I told you to get it

[devout forum]

They just had a scandal about RMA upcharges (including intentionally damaging consumer items to be able to deny warranty replacements)

[mortal grail]

And it made sense at the time

[opaque sedge]

You told me to get the gigabyte one

I went against your wishes

[mortal grail]

Did you? Well

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-of-tsushima-jin-sakai-sad-look-gif-17423115921089275574

[devout forum]

I'm talking to the other guy

[mortal grail]

[devout forum]

I mean it's not like

The end of the world

[mortal grail]

The tuf was still decent value tho

[devout forum]

Just hope you need absolutely no support or warranty service ever

[opaque sedge]

This was the one you told me to get

[mortal grail]

Yeah I would suggest that one

[opaque sedge]

Btw no to the asus tuf 4070ti super right?

[mortal grail]

Gaming X has nice io from gb for 600 boards for some reason

[devout forum]

But ye AsRock and Gigabyte are pretty good rn
MSI honestly I'm not sure ab out rn

Asus is just nope from me

[mortal grail]

MSI is fine

[rancid juniper]

MSI is good for intel i suppose

[opaque sedge]

Also any of these aibs decent?

[rancid juniper]

my msi z690 board is really nice

[mortal grail]

I answered you like 3 times now

Lol

[devout forum]

I'm not familiar with MSI AM5 boards so I'm not gonna break any sticks on them

[opaque sedge]

They have the cheapest am5 offering rn right?

[devout forum]

I just
Hate how they look

[opaque sedge]

I.. didn’t notice

So which one?

[mortal grail]

The windforce for 599

[opaque sedge]

4th time’s the charm

[mortal grail]

Use a bracket

[opaque sedge]

Got it

And should i get a deepcool cooler or nah?

[mortal grail]

They fixed the wide pcie divot but you want a brace

No your cooler is fine

[devout forum]

@mortal grail am I mentally broken for thinking that the MSI AM5 boards are ugly?

[mortal grail]

No

[devout forum]

Like they actually make me uncomfortable

PG Riptide looks so nice tho

[opaque sedge]

Guys ak620digital or ak500digital or ak620 or ak400?

[devout forum]

I'd def take one

[devout forum]

What CPU?

[mortal grail]

That was a massive brain fart omg

Fixed it ☠️

[opaque sedge]

7800x3d

[mortal grail]

None

Is ur cpu a burning pile of ash atm yes or no

[devout forum]

Whichever is the cheapest NGL
If you even need it

Like unironically you can almost cool a 7800X3D by blowing on it like you would blow on hot soup

[mortal grail]

I could do with soup rn

Been sick for 2 days

[tranquil pebble]

Before I went to AMD I had a Z97 U3 Plus from MSI

[rancid juniper]

the design looks nice

[tranquil pebble]

it served me well with a 4790k

[opaque sedge]

I just want a cool looking deepcool cooler

[rancid juniper]

mmm 4th gen intel

[tranquil pebble]

4th gen refresh but yes

4.5 gen lol

[mortal grail]

Write deepcool for a sticker

Slap it on your current cooler

Ez

[opaque sedge]

👁️👄👁️

[mortal grail]

Like every single tower performs more or less the same on am5

[opaque sedge]

Damn ak500 digital is pretty expensive

[rancid juniper]

speaking of 4.5 we have yet to see AMD's RDNA 3.5 dgpus

lol

[mortal grail]

Wtf 70

Put that down

[devout forum]

If you have the money get te 620 Digital
But then you'd have to stand getting roasted for wasting money on an OVERKILL cooler

[mortal grail]

Lmfao

70 for a loud noisy dual fan

[opaque sedge]

I’m falling into the aesthetic quicksand pool motor has been a bad influence

[devout forum]

Also just

[opaque sedge]

Single 💀

[devout forum]

Get a Jonsbo LCD screen

[rancid juniper]

i would not pay that much for a cpu cooler

lol

[opaque sedge]

Dual fan is 80 💀

[mortal grail]

Bro just emerges with strix things

Beyond saving

[devout forum]

That LCD is actually useful as a mfing monitor

You can do sensorpanel, you can do wallpaper engine

[mortal grail]

Seconded

[devout forum]

And costs like 20 bucks

[mortal grail]

Or thermalright lcd

[devout forum]

Thermalright LCD costs a lot more here

[tranquil pebble]

they better be decent

[mortal grail]

Not here

[devout forum]

Hence me recommending Jonsbo

Also isn't the TR smaller?

[mortal grail]

Deepcool digital used to make sense

[devout forum]

Like 3.9" vs 8"

[mortal grail]

Go back a year before thermalright popped up

[rancid juniper]

if the highest end can atleast match the 7900XT with better RT performance, lower power, lower price then i find it good

[mortal grail]

It's the opposite here

[devout forum]

Size tho

[mortal grail]

The LCD standalone costs like 80 usd

[tranquil pebble]

If it does well enough to make 7000 series sell for less that is also a win

[mortal grail]

The thermalright tho is no price change

[devout forum]

IIRC the Thermalright is only 3.9" TFT

[mortal grail]

💀

[rancid juniper]

lol yea

[devout forum]

While the Jonsbo is an 8" IPS

[mortal grail]

Ya I get it but 80usd here

Thermalright 0

And we're talking to an american

We're both foreigners

[tranquil pebble]

next build will probably use an Asus Pro mobo if one exists for AM5

[devout forum]

Wait you guys get it included with the Tower 200?

[devout forum]

Plz don't

[mortal grail]

Does, worth it if you use the pcie

[tranquil pebble]

why?

[devout forum]

Okay wait

[mortal grail]

But you want the x670e specifically for bifurcation

[devout forum]

ProArt?

[mortal grail]

Yes

He uses threadripper

[opaque sedge]

@craggy shoal meet your new 4070super brother

[devout forum]

Ah

[mortal grail]

I imagine he'll have a use case

Lol

[rancid juniper]

oh congrats on the new card

[opaque sedge]

Felix this is the correct one right?

[mortal grail]

Tower 200 is meh

[tranquil pebble]

I easily overloaded a Ryzen 7 3700X when it was new lol

[mortal grail]

Sure

[devout forum]

It looks kinda cool but it's pricey ngl

[opaque sedge]

I will miss cyberpunk at 120 fps at max settings tho

[mortal grail]

Stressing the point of multi gpu btw, don't bother if you won't

[devout forum]

Like I like the look, but not the pricetag

D41 makes a lot more sense

[rancid juniper]

wait are you upgrading or downgrading?

[mortal grail]

It counts as a downgrade

[opaque sedge]

Downgrading unfortunately dont have the scratch for a 4070tis or 4080s

[rancid juniper]

oof

[devout forum]

Yikers

That's no bueno

[mortal grail]

It's like, 22%? Under 7900xt?

It's a bit of a drop

Maybe less

15%?

[rancid juniper]

well atleast you still have a gpu?

[mortal grail]

Around there

[rancid juniper]

heh?

[devout forum]

TBF it's also cheaper than a 7900xt

So it kinda checks out

It's not 20% cheaper tho

[mortal grail]

It's like one of two choices on nvidia's side even mildly worth it for ada

4080s is the other at sub 950

[rancid juniper]

i just remembered his situation, his card was artifacting like crazy iirc

[mortal grail]

Ye

Gonna be awkward if the nvidia card gets it too

💀

[rancid juniper]

☠️

[devout forum]

@mortal grail you wanna hear something scummy?

[mortal grail]

Not really

Show me puppies doing goofy stuff

[devout forum]

I mean it's not really scummy
It just feels scummy

[mortal grail]

Is it a bar of soap

Those can leave scum behind

[devout forum]

Cuz y'know the whole point of the 4080s was "Here's a 4080 but cheaper for you to buy"

So every single seller here was like "Oh hey thanks Nvidia, that's some nice profit margin you left on these, don't mind if we sell the new card at HIGHER prices than the old one and pocket the difference "

It feels so absolutely pointless

[mortal grail]

Think you missed the part where they stripped the super pcb's down

[rancid juniper]

Me looking at GDDR6 4070 priced the same as GDDR6X

[mortal grail]

The super is the worse of the two, but it's almost always cheaper, to an agreeable degree

[devout forum]

Oh the super is worse???

WOW

[mortal grail]

Objectively speaking a 4080 is better by value even though it's 2% slower

[devout forum]

I thought the super was supposed to be a little better

[mortal grail]

Much better pcb

[tranquil pebble]

GDDR6 should run cooler at least

[mortal grail]

Yes it is

On core speeds

But on pcb quality it's ass to it's older brother

[devout forum]

But you can just OC the 4080 to the same point?

[mortal grail]

Yes

Well

Yesn't

[devout forum]

Kind of

[mortal grail]

2% is barely noticeable anyway

[devout forum]

So the 4080s is basically pointless?

[mortal grail]

No

[devout forum]

Like for me that can't get it any cheaper

[mortal grail]

As I said, it became cheaper to the point it was agreeable

i.e the value finally became meaningful

A 4080 for 1150 is terrible vs a 950 4080S

[devout forum]

Now if it's the same or higher cost than the old 4080

[mortal grail]

But a 4080 and 4080S for 950, the 4080 is better quality

[devout forum]

That kinda changes

[mortal grail]

Ye

Note this isn't true for all cards

Only some

Afaik

[rancid juniper]

it'd be funny if it ran hotter than its supposed to

[mortal grail]

Reference spec is reference, and even then all the board specs are fine

But yeah, the super cards are cheaper design

[devout forum]

It's mildly hilarious that the base 4080 has more availability than the 4080s
And at the same or even lower prices

At least here

[rancid juniper]

RTX 5090
10% stronger for 50% price uplift

[devout forum]

TBF

5090 coming out might actually lower used 4090 prices

[mortal grail]

@devout forum quick example

[devout forum]

MIGHT

[mortal grail]

Both founders and msi have known worse super pcbs

They knock a bunch of phases and rails off

Oh hey, cost of board drops significantly

Lose 3 rails, power behaviour is mostly the same

[devout forum]

Ye that makes sense

[mortal grail]

Looks good

It's justified

But yeah, it feels a little scummy

But I'd rather that than nothing

[devout forum]

It's more scummy on behalf of the sellers

It is what it is

I'd get a 7900XT anyway

4080(s) costs almost twice as much

XTX is way too power-hungry for our energy bills

[mortal grail]

But like, a normal 4080S can still beat something like a 4080 ventus pcb

So it's not exactly one to one

Again, reference is reference

[devout forum]

Manli Gallardo 4080 be like

[opaque sedge]

You guys better not humiliate me for only having 12gigs of vram OK?!?

Should have went with this from the start tbh

[mortal grail]

Wow no RT

[devout forum]

(it's THE cheapest available 4080 here, with that puke green cooler and the built-in dual level indicators)

[sinful blade]

@stone anchor #tech-deals message

[mortal grail]

Smh can't even turn on shadow play without 48gb

[devout forum]

Hey I have 12 gigs too, why would I roast you for that?

[opaque sedge]

👁️👄👁️

[opaque sedge]

I went from 20gigs to 12

Dats why

[sinful blade]

You should let me hold onto it for safe keeping

[opaque sedge]

I used to be the big man here once

[sinful blade]

[mortal grail]

You should send it to me for stress testing

[elfin mural]

i have half of 12gb in vram

[devout forum]

I have no right to trash you my previous GPU was a 9 year old integrated Nvidia one @opaque sedge

[elfin mural]

[devout forum]

You cook with what you got

[elfin mural]

real

[hollow barn]

I wanna Apologise 😔

[mortal grail]

Ima blackout now baiii

Wait wot

[hollow barn]

If I get banned, I understand

[mortal grail]

💀

[elfin mural]

also im surprised that jedi survivor still has perf issues

on 7800x3d

[devout forum]

@hollow barn what did you do?

[devout forum]

Intel bias smfh

[hollow barn]

I had not such a great time on a day

[elfin mural]

no it has issues on intel too

it's so cpu heavy

[hollow barn]

And it was also at the time where the Router started getting issues

[elfin mural]

the game's animation system is also.. terrible

[devout forum]

It's just unoptimized as all hell Foxy

[elfin mural]

you can cap fps

[devout forum]

Like actually crap

[elfin mural]

and animations would feel like crap

[devout forum]

AAAA game remember?

[elfin mural]

it's tied to a weird cpu bound system

true lmao

[hollow barn]

Do Y'all accept the Apology I gave?

[elfin mural]

astro bot game on ps5 is legendary tho

[devout forum]

You should be grateful to be allowed to buy it Foxy
Shame on you

[elfin mural]

sony cooked it for 4 years

and it came out flawless

[devout forum]

How DARE YOU demand such things as optimizing a newly released game?

[elfin mural]

stunning visuals, zero glitches

virtually flawless performance

[devout forum]

DLSS/FSR is the optimization

[elfin mural]

it maintains 60 fps 99.99% of the time

there was ONLY one moment where it dipped into 50

only one scene

and it was brief

impressive usage of the hardware

a lost art in gaming

[chrome mirage]

It was running fine on my 5800x3d the other day. I didn't play it for very long though

[elfin mural]

the stutters are the game's weakness

but if you don't notice it you're lucky

[proud jackal]

[rancid juniper]

still baffling the game has perf issues when the developers behind it is respawn

[chrome mirage]

My old 3700x sure struggled to run it

[rancid juniper]

and they have really good performing games before jedi survivor

[elfin mural]

frame times are still over the place rn

tho much better

but not optimal

[chrome mirage]

I did have it running on the steam deck at launch. 15 fps isn't a great experience though

[elfin mural]

ea rushing game development as per usual

[rancid juniper]

just as the investors intended

[elfin mural]

it'll all come crashing down one day

just wait for it

infinite growth is not possible

unless you're of course apple

apple has cultivated a cult of apple owners

[tranquil pebble]

even Apple will crash eventually

and I am gonna laugh when it does

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/like-a-dragon-infinite-wealth-like-a-dragon-yakuza-8-ichiban-kasuga-crazy-delivery-gif-17051302943144183808

[elfin mural]

that's gonna take a while tho

ig we gotta wait until the eu probes apple even further

[icy ore]

Mumen rider

[tranquil pebble]

https://dmitry.gr/?r=05.Projects&proj=35. Linux4004

Someone did Linux on a 4004 rofl

Linux kernel, Doom, and Bad Apple... all 3 get run on almost anything

[opaque sedge]

Man F u

alright guys so what do i gotta do to install nvidia on a once ad system? boot up pc without a gpu then ddu and install gpu and drivers or install gpu ddu and install drivers?

[tranquil pebble]

once ad system?

[opaque sedge]

amd*

sorry

[tranquil pebble]

GeForce and Radeon drivers do not conflict with each other in my experience

I have never needed to DDU to swap GPUs

[opaque sedge]

@mortal grail hey man you free rn?

[dusk knot]

That swimming lol

[rancid juniper]

hidden yakuza skill: Air Swim

[nocturne flicker]

Wuh? Unpossible, everything has infinite growth, just look at housing prices

[opaque sedge]

Bruh why is it so small

[nocturne flicker]

*Sponsored by Lehman Brothers

[wary fjord]

New gpu?

Nice

[wary fjord]

Lol 😅

Oo 4070 thats a nice card

[opaque sedge]

Yh replaced the defective 7900xt i showed you yesterday with a 4070super

Really wanted the tuf 4070ti super for its looks but it was extremely bad value so didn’t

So do i run ddu on my system without the gpu plugged in first then install my new gpu or can i install and ddu and install new drivers?

[rancid juniper]

cheapest 4070 ti super

[wary fjord]

Isn't that a downgrade.?

I think u need ti super

[opaque sedge]

Was 850

Dont even wanna know how much with tax

For nvidia 40series rn you either go 4070s or double down and go 4080s

In betweens suck rn

Had to go through the nvidia tax unfortunately

[opaque sedge]

Also guys help 😭

I just wanna play gow ragnarok

[wary fjord]

Say you want super ti XD add money on top of it

Brrr

4080 is nice

[opaque sedge]

Look at this cursed object

[wary fjord]

Double down u already committed to it xD

[wary fjord]

Plug it properly..

[opaque sedge]

I shall

Guys quick question about to ddu without the gpu installed and my psu wont explode if the pcie cables are still on them right?

[craggy shoal]

I actually have to use this for my 4070 Super 💀😭

Corsair TX things 🫠

[craggy shoal]

No. There's just no power being output to the cables. It'll be fine

[opaque sedge]

Also wbt ddu? should i boot up the pc with no gpu and run ddu and install the gpu and drivers or should i go ahead and install the gpu then ddu and install drivers

[wary fjord]

Deym

[craggy shoal]

Yeah it should be fine

[wary fjord]

I dint know irs accepts gift cards now

[wary fjord]

Ur pc can run dual gpu with each have their own driver xD

I dont think that is needed

[dusk knot]

Under the rest

[wary fjord]

Just plug it.. and ddu

[craggy shoal]

Yeah I totally trust Sanjeep Patel from the IRS to ask for Walmart gift cards

[opaque sedge]

Do i use dp cable or hdmi?

[wary fjord]

Any

[craggy shoal]

ur mom

[wary fjord]

Lol

[dusk knot]

Dead

[opaque sedge]

I installed it correctly right?

[wary fjord]

U'll find out if u do

If it sparks

[craggy shoal]

Turn it on and find out lol

[opaque sedge]

Welp all plugged in

?ddu

[topaz crown]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[misty sparrow]

If it makes you feel better I only have 8GB (that I’ll be getting in a few days)

Nice job on 4070 super purchase, hope it works fine

[opaque sedge]

Where do u download nvidia drivers again?

[craggy shoal]

idk probably on nvidia's site could be wrong though idk

[opaque sedge]

Sarcasm?

[craggy shoal]

yeah you can get them on Nvidia's site

[misty sparrow]

Alternatively you can get GeForce Experience if you don’t mind bloatware

[craggy shoal]

If you have to ask "where can I get drivers for [x device]" you'll just have to go to [x device's] site

[misty sparrow]

just saves you the trouble of going to Nvidia website each time for drivers

[opaque sedge]

What download type do i want?

All, game ready or studio?

[craggy shoal]

game

[misty sparrow]

gameready

[opaque sedge]

Dis one right?

[misty sparrow]

Yeah

[craggy shoal]

top one

[misty sparrow]

Latest one

[opaque sedge]

And now just run ddu then restart and unzip the drivers right?

[craggy shoal]

yeah DDU then install

Did you get your drivers in a zip file?

[opaque sedge]

The thing that pops up on the corner of chrome?

Then yeah

[craggy shoal]

bruh

Let me grab it for you bruh

what's your GPU? 4070 Super?

[opaque sedge]

Yup

[craggy shoal]

man they really decided to make this installer 600+ MB

[opaque sedge]

yh thats the one i downloaded

[craggy shoal]

so a .exe file then

[opaque sedge]

imma ddu and click on it now

@craggy shoal express is fine right?

[craggy shoal]

I always do Custom

not even that advanced

it'll probably ask you to check some boxes. Just check everything

[opaque sedge]

Wbt the clean install?

[craggy shoal]

yeah I would

[worthy meteor]

there's nvcleanstall if you want to strip even more off

[opaque sedge]

So installation was just complete but my display blipped to nothing for a moment that normal @craggy shoal

Ge force experience was already open btw

[craggy shoal]

restart your computer

yeah I'd still restart your computer

[opaque sedge]

is this supposed to be red?

[opaque sedge]

just did

[craggy shoal]

yeah it's just letting you know that's it's opened (just like other Windows apps)

[opaque sedge]

others are white

[craggy shoal]

notifications I mean

idk the trigger

[opaque sedge]

ohh

[craggy shoal]

(basically it's normal idk why Nvidia would need it but I guess they use that)

[opaque sedge]

also whats happening to rdr2?

[craggy shoal]

one works and one doesn't I guess 💀

idk I don't use GeForce Experience

[opaque sedge]

also now that i dont have adrenalin anymore what do i use for overlay?

[craggy shoal]

uhhhh Alt+Z(?)

And then there's some options in there to play with

I personally prefer the Nvidia App's version of that menu (yeah it's another software but it's not too bad)

[opaque sedge]

cpu temp isnt showing

[craggy shoal]

uhhhhh

idk

I usually just leave HWinfo on my second screen lol

[opaque sedge]

pcmr nutjob...

i dont have a second screen

[craggy shoal]

This guy trying to roast me for having two screens 💀

L take tbh. Just get a second screen lol

[opaque sedge]

Desk too smol

[craggy shoal]

Mount it

[opaque sedge]

Like my gpu…

My case can barely feel the thing

[wary fjord]

https://youtube.com/shorts/cgKqkINRiFg?si=fuTN3E6GN6GYamFK

[opaque sedge]

[craggy shoal]

19 349

Good

[rancid juniper]

bro i have a lower graphics score than you

dont fret

1440p performance is still great

[opaque sedge]

used to have 23000 with my 7900xt

That thing was near high end

[craggy shoal]

That’s just benchmarks. It'll be different in games

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[craggy shoal]

Especially after DLSS lol

[opaque sedge]

oh god felix was right he is a pcmr nutcase

jk btw

[craggy shoal]

💀💀💀

[opaque sedge]

i'm sure dlss is great

cant wait to be locked out of dlss 4.0 when the 50 series come out

[rancid juniper]

w

t

f

[craggy shoal]

Maybe FSR is even better now. Idk though I haven't used it in a while

[opaque sedge]

3.1 still has minor artifacting in tessalation and anti aliasing scenarios alongside reflections

Bruh what is this

[rancid juniper]

oh boy

actually run another game

seriously did your previous card die because of G.O.T?

or you've seen artifacts before it

[opaque sedge]

Idk I remember noticing some flashing dots in cyberpunk once when vram usage would shoot over 10gigs

[rancid juniper]

ah

the vram was dying

[opaque sedge]

What’s happening here tho?

Its still happening

[rancid juniper]

idk try resizing the screen or change graphics settings

hopefully you DDU'd the system before installing the nvidia card

it'd be extremely wild if this card dies aswell (hopefully not)

[opaque sedge]

Also i installed a new nvme buts its not showing up for some reason

[rancid juniper]

sus

try to reseat the nvme drive

and check bios

[past lichen]

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-000Z-001N2?item=9SIA1HJK8G3781

I don’t usually trust prebuilts but need opinions on this one

[opaque sedge]

I did

[rancid juniper]

I don't know the reputation of skytech but know a bit about ABS

[opaque sedge]

Oh wait what i did was install the gpu then boot into safe mode and ran ddu for my and drivers and then after the restart ran the nvidia drivers

I was told it would be fine

[rancid juniper]

i guess thats fine? Usually when i swap out my gpu I'd ddu before i put the new card in

[opaque sedge]

Yh just went into bios the new nvme isn’t showing up

[rancid juniper]

id probably take this https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883360533

it may have a weaker cpu but it is more than enough to run the RTX 4080 super

+faster memory

[opaque sedge]

Found it

Not showing up in windows tho

[rancid juniper]

check your device manager when you load up windows, if its there make sure to partition it

[opaque sedge]

Its there

[rancid juniper]

good

so its time to create a drive partition

oh wow

not too bad of a deal ig

[opaque sedge]

What do i do here?

[rancid juniper]

GPT

[opaque sedge]

Says the second nvme is unallocated

[rancid juniper]

thats normal

[opaque sedge]

So all done?

[rancid juniper]

you gotta create a volume for it

no not yet

volume like C: D: etc

[craggy shoal]

D:

[opaque sedge]

Ic how

[craggy shoal]

:D

[opaque sedge]

Lol

[rancid juniper]

windows dont want to be happy

[craggy shoal]

:(

PC ran

[rancid juniper]

bad

[opaque sedge]

Man this week has been hell

The game crashed btw

[craggy shoal]

bruh

[opaque sedge]

Also what do i do next?

[craggy shoal]

play a game?

[opaque sedge]

@rancid juniper

[craggy shoal]

Try Cyberpunk

I guess lol

[opaque sedge]

Oh for the partition of drives

[rancid juniper]

you created the partition?

[opaque sedge]

Not yet

[rancid juniper]

it better look like one of these when you're done

[craggy shoal]

damb bruh no need to call me poor

[opaque sedge]

How do i partition it 😭

[craggy shoal]

I'm assuming some of these are SATA 2.5" drives?

[rancid juniper]

hmmm extend volume?

[rancid juniper]

nah

[craggy shoal]

right-click on the drive and click New partition or something

[rancid juniper]

one is HDD the rest is nvme

[craggy shoal]

and just be sure to select NTFS and not exFAT or whatever

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[craggy shoal]

Man I want a motherboard that can hold four M.2 drives

[gilded kraken]

thats what Im waiting for one of the new 870 E boards

[rancid juniper]

one day you will

[gilded kraken]

so I can have all the nvme drivwa

[rancid juniper]

wait you're using amd board right? @craggy shoal

[craggy shoal]

Do Disk 1 not Disk 0

[craggy shoal]

yeah

[opaque sedge]

I am doing disk 1

[rancid juniper]

No

Disk one

[craggy shoal]

Disk 0 is the boot drive bruh

[rancid juniper]

create volume for disk 1

[opaque sedge]

My head is borked

[rancid juniper]

💀

[opaque sedge]

But yh i right clicked the bottom one

Disk 1

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That looks more like the top one to me lol

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Only options i have are these

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I moved the mouse away

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mouse should be here

not here

[opaque sedge]

Hmm

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New Simple Volume

[lone mango]

New simple volume

[lone mango]

blud almost formatted his main drive

[rancid juniper]

yes

[rancid juniper]

that would've been disastrous

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bro need help moving his mouse a few pixels downwards to select the right option

[lone mango]

[opaque sedge]

Now what?

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Next

[lone mango]

Next

[lone mango]

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Ntfs format or exfat?

[lone mango]

Ntfs

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NTFS

[lone mango]

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Looks good next right?

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