general-chat

[velvet summit]

i've seen like 3 songs with it and never again 💀

[mortal grail]

Motherboard codecs are pretty blah

Independent dacs filter out a lot of noise

[pliant berry]

I see them but not acceptable to audiophile standards

[mortal grail]

Don't audiophiles prefer flac

[mighty hazel]

Sound cards need to come back

Maybe

[pliant berry]

ye any kind of lossless flac or wav

[mortal grail]

No fr this is like, entirely what I'm ranting about

Lmfao

[mortal grail]

Wav is so og

My best music from my old stuff is wav

[pliant berry]

wav is just large

[mortal grail]

Let's make it larger

[velvet summit]

nah

nobody likes reaching behind their pc to plug in headphones

💀

[mortal grail]

Real

Riser tho

[velvet summit]

💀

[mortal grail]

80cm riser

[velvet summit]

riser your soundcard out of your pc

[mortal grail]

Yes

Run it through the pcie up to the top of the box

[velvet summit]

💀

[tranquil pebble]

guessing that Creative SoundBlaster is not a good DAC lol

[mortal grail]

Not really

When they first came out they were nice

Nowadays they're very often ignored

[tranquil pebble]

how is that company still afloat?

[velvet summit]

they do other stuff

[mortal grail]

They got creative maybe

[tranquil pebble]

imagine if they started making video cards

[mortal grail]

The name is so predictable

Creative video blaster X

Creative video blaster extreme

Creative graphics blaster ultimate

[velvet summit]

creative fart blaster

https://tenor.com/view/minion-fart-funny-goofy-minion-fart-gif-17836528

[mortal grail]

Nah that one got filtered out

[velvet summit]

real

no match for the desk filter

[mortal grail]

Some guy turned up and made a really good observation with his desk

[velvet summit]

stocks have been down ever since

[mortal grail]

The other thing tho @tranquil pebble is probably that an external dac is easily moved around

Even if they do have a good one, you can just change the usb port

[tranquil pebble]

There are SoundBlaster USB DACs lol

[mortal grail]

External can be hooked up more easily lol

[velvet summit]

schiit can work on phones as well

[mortal grail]

Ah well creative just sucks ig

I thought they only did internal cards

[mortal grail]

The topping can do bluetooth audio

[tranquil pebble]

There was a gif of this that used to crash Discord

[velvet summit]

lol i remember that

[velvet summit]

too advanced

where's the wires

[tranquil pebble]

funniest thing ever... until you got hit with it

[mortal grail]

Behind it

[velvet summit]

the fiio k7 also has a bluetooth version

[velvet summit]

💀

[mortal grail]

That's the oblong looking one innit

[velvet summit]

ngl i only got the ones that used a video to crash your client

[silver sparrow]

idk if its just me but like, if you spend like thousands of dollars on something, wouldnt you want it to at least look nice

[velvet summit]

like "hello your computer has virus"

nah

[silver sparrow]

ah your right, not allowed

[velvet summit]

give me something that looks like it spared no money on performance

[mortal grail]

If I spend a grand on anything I want it to do the job in spades

[velvet summit]

i'll be happy

[mortal grail]

So true

I'm the kind that can forgive 10% on aesthetics

[velvet summit]

im not buying a stove to be pretty, im buying a stove because i need to cook

[mortal grail]

But nothing more

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/let-us-cook-let-me-cook-lets-cook-cooking-walter-white-gif-2649071825756414039

[silver sparrow]

if im buying a stove, it better match the damn kitchen

[velvet summit]

stainless steel

give me a commercial grade stove

[silver sparrow]

i dont care if its cheap, if it dont match, it dont go in the home

[mortal grail]

The kind you can leave pre-heated overnight?

☠️

[velvet summit]

💀

[icy ore]

\

[velvet summit]

there are commercial grade induction stoves as well

my college uses those

they are very nice

[silver sparrow]

how do you even classify what % of the budget went to aesthetics

[mortal grail]

With a calculator?

[velvet summit]

real

[silver sparrow]

no like, do you have a baseline of every part to compare it to?

[mortal grail]

If the cheapest option is X, and I spend 10% more for Y, I have spent 10%

That simple

There's so much retail out there now it's more difficult to not achieve a more eye-catching result with mild overspending

[worthy meteor]

I find it more helpful to put a separate budget for aesthetics lol

[silver sparrow]

yeah but the cheapest option has features that the other item clearly lacks, and you have to take that into account tho

[worthy meteor]

make a good list and then spend the money on aesthetics

[mortal grail]

That's a separate factor

If it boils down purely to looks, 10% is my rule of thumb

[mortal grail]

Starting with the functional baseline puts a lot of life choices into a real perspective

Rational spending

[silver sparrow]

i kinda feel like that way of thinking is kinda odd. people usually dont want to just have something that just works, they want something that well works, but also they like the look of... espically if what they want is expensive

[mortal grail]

How old are you

[silver sparrow]

like why pay this much just to not like how it looks, sure its "cheap" but like are you truely happy with looking at what you bought everyday

23

[mortal grail]

Ok my frame of mind comes from someone more akin to 30's-40's

Many people when they're older want something that plain works most of all

Especially in old age

Function matters by far the most

When you're not exactly able bodied so to speak

[silver sparrow]

if they want that, they arent going to build a PC, if you want something that just works, you are going to just buy a boxed pc from dell or something

lets be honest there

[mortal grail]

You should know me by now that I target results better than that

And I'm always heavily value oriented

[velvet summit]

I care nothing about aesthetic as long as it's not outrageously bad looking

[light egret]

I have always built for function and low cost to power, the only thing I went out of my way for were rgb fans and they were cheap

[mortal grail]

It's also a culture thing

[silver sparrow]

i grew up dirt poor, and i never want to go back

[mortal grail]

Some cultures would want it to look like it's worth a million dollars

I'm not the kind that want it to look but not work

[light egret]

If you saw my PC in my highschool and post highschool days you'd think my PC was jank and I thought it was the coolest thing 😂

[mortal grail]

But, I also don't have the luxury to mindlessly overspend on something to look cool either

I grew up penny pinching, so I'm pretty ingrained in the concept

[light egret]

same

[mortal grail]

As much as I have the hardware I do for a hobby

[light egret]

I have a lot of nice things, but thats from saving and finding good deals lol.

[silver sparrow]

i spent my entire life asking for things to basically never get it. if i have to say no to myself about that for the rest of my life id rather die

[mortal grail]

We're not saying no tho

We're compromising to something a little cheaper

Ofc if it's something like a hot pink stove top

Ofc not

[velvet summit]

TBF
I've never asked for aesthetic looking things

Different priorities

[mortal grail]

But if I can save a few bucks not going with glass electric and having a nice enough natural gas top, then I'm fine with that personally

I'm pretty malleable

[velvet summit]

I got the cheapest induction stove (was a clearance sale)

[mortal grail]

I can live without most things as long as wherever I am is clean honestly

[silver sparrow]

imo it should be far more into suggesting, rather than compromising, if you can get someone to come down and be equal minded thats great. you can work with them on that, but i mean if they come in here clearly not budget minded, i think its a far better idea to suggest something thats equal in "why would you spend that much money on that" but its far cheaper or better to go for. going for things that are cheap is always nice, but i mean if someone made up their mind on something imo its not wise to badger them on it

[mortal grail]

The older I get the far more invested I am with sales

I am genuinely seeing myself become more boomer by the month

[velvet summit]

Lmao

Yeah I almost exclusively only buy things on sale

[mortal grail]

That's exactly what I already do

However, and if I'm reading this right

[velvet summit]

Whether it's food or other fun or necessities

[mortal grail]

If you mean this in the context of the conversation earlier

This was the 6th time that stupid aio came up

That horse is dead

I'm speaking for the server lmao

[light egret]

talking about the nzxt aio?

[mortal grail]

Ye

[silver sparrow]

well for that shes young, i had the same type of mentality of set things i wanted back then. you cant reason with someone who hasnt even been working yet

[mortal grail]

I don't care if someone is dead set on a purchase choice, don't pester me 6 times for validation on it

[light egret]

lol.

[velvet summit]

Not my money but is my time™️

[mortal grail]

Lad if it disrupts the balance of the server then change needs to happen for the sake of working to the masses

[light egret]

It's more about the frequency in which the same question from the same person is asked, when they have recieved the same answer from many users but don't take the advice.

[mortal grail]

I've been pretty kind about it

And yet I keep coming back to people disruptive and frustrated about it

Like we get it, you like the aesthetic and the choice

This doesn't need to be a 3 hour conversation every 2 or 3 days

Hell, can you call it a conversation if one side isn't listening?

[craggy shoal]

It's more like a modern argument at that point lol

[mortal grail]

You know why this is important? Cos if this merry go round continues the disrespect grows

[silver sparrow]

idk it feels pretty simple to deal with, hell if i wasnt driving home i could have dealt with it.

people are easily distracted by videos

[mortal grail]

I am not out to make an enemy of this person, they need to chill with it because it's a form of ignorant trolling

And defending it is white knighting

These sorts of situations is why kenzie caused so much server grief

[idle nexus]

ah it brings me back to the days of USB dropping out on my 5900x on B550 Master

[mortal grail]

Look at safi, naolitude

[craggy shoal]

I remember Safi lol

[mortal grail]

All of those banned people, not wrong by their own opinions, but by the server grief they caused

[dusk knot]

[mortal grail]

I mean well in my intent

[tranquil pebble]

Eventually blocking can come into play as much as it sucks to have to do that

[idle nexus]

(1) the company is imploding & (2) I can bore you to death (or send you my draft letter) about all the EK failures I've endured

[mortal grail]

But we shouldn't need to have multitudes of people block

Maybe one or two over a disagreement

[tranquil pebble]

right

[mortal grail]

It really doesn't bother me what the server is about honestly

[idle nexus]

what was it??

[mortal grail]

I speak up cos I see what others are feeling

I get dm's

I listen to people

[idle nexus]

okay I think I'm caught up on Discord

[velvet summit]

If one person is annoyed at somebody enough to block them, sure
If it's a whole group of people getting annoyed enough to block, that's a problem

[mortal grail]

Case in point

This is why I was speaking up over the aio

[tranquil pebble]

Oh I see what you mean yeah

[mortal grail]

I could care less if someone has a full nzxt pc, like fantastic

[idle nexus]

lol uh-ohhh what did I miss?

[mortal grail]

Just don't try and make the other person say it's great when they've already said they don't like it lmao

THAT, is when it's a real issue

[silver sparrow]

idk. it feels easy to just answer a simple question. instead of making the situation drawn out

but maybe thats just me

[mortal grail]

I answered all the questions

[silver sparrow]

no not for you specificly

[velvet summit]

It's the same questions over and over again

[mortal grail]

But see we can't control others

[silver sparrow]

i mean other people in the chat just drawing out the situation

[tranquil pebble]

that gets into moderation territory

[mortal grail]

And other people answer the question

But then the person says "But I like this"

[silver sparrow]

like idk where people think that will lead but to just disruption and anger

[mortal grail]

Ok, so?

You like it and reject that person's advice

It's quite disrespectful

[idle nexus]

fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; & hate leads to suffering

[mortal grail]

Yes

[lone mango]

[mortal grail]

It's a bad situation that brews a storm

[lone mango]

[pliant berry]

are we still talking about this?

[mortal grail]

I'm happy to move on if it's too much

[pliant berry]

how about we do something a little more productive

[lone mango]

Idk I just came in and saw fear leading to anger

[idle nexus]

I have no idea what we're talking about & I don't wanna scroll up

[pliant berry]

like discuss everyones favorite anime

[mortal grail]

And that's as it should be, we should move on when people aren't happy about it

[lone mango]

[mortal grail]

Not repeat this conversation that disturbs people multiple times each week with the same ending

[velvet summit]

the whole reason the argument even exists is because they just continue even after multiple people have addressed the issue

[mortal grail]

Absolutely

We've already shown support

We've already answered the questions, we've been shown are opinions have bounced multiple times

I think we're being pretty fair about this up until now

Save maybe the odd comment here and there

[tranquil pebble]

Metaphor game will be interesting

[velvet summit]

real

[velvet summit]

tiktok watermark 💀

[craggy shoal]

Hold up I need to shop it one sec

Lemme cook rq

Excuse me WHAT LMAO

[mortal grail]

I, am jjjaaaacccckkkk black

[velvet summit]

google lens

[craggy shoal]

Thanks I'll just use this

[velvet summit]

lmfao

[mortal grail]

I am jack black

[craggy shoal]

Photoshop isn't free on mobile anymore apparently 💀

[mortal grail]

I am jblack

[mortal grail]

i AM jAcK BLaCk

[tranquil pebble]

Tik Toho > TikTok

[mortal grail]

I am jack black (anime)

[tranquil pebble]

What software is that from?

[mortal grail]

Adobe

[craggy shoal]

Did it bruh

[tranquil pebble]

oh no wonder

[mortal grail]

I am jaaaccck black

[mortal grail]

The same adobe up in front of the DOJ for bad consumer practices

[velvet summit]

how do you not recognize the adobe ui

i swear no other ui is in this style

at least that i've seen

[mortal grail]

Apple

[tranquil pebble]

I tend to avoid Adobe stuff

[velvet summit]

apple doesnt really have this look exactly? at least last i checked

their dark theme stuff are darker grey and such from memory

and lighter blue

[light egret]

The last time I used an adobe product was like photoshop 11 lol

[mortal grail]

Idk man tomorrow they could have it and the fanatics would lose it

[mortal grail]

"Change fonts!? WHOA" screams uncontrollably

[idle nexus]

my gf's camera is a Sony that apparently has a proprietary image format. Why do things like this still exist? lol

[craggy shoal]

Bro what is this 💀💀💀

[velvet summit]

camera raw is ususally proprietary

[tranquil pebble]

touhou meme

[velvet summit]

the software to read it is ususally free though

[mortal grail]

Think I might know the format too

[pliant berry]

bro why tf does my beamng keep defocusing

[idle nexus]

my Samsung phone has some option for RAW format but it's too complex for me & I don't use it

[velvet summit]

raw just means raw sensor data with no processing to change the image

much larger file size

[idle nexus]

ig I was today year old when I first realized defocusing was a word lol

[pliant berry]

also ye pretty much every camera has their own proprietary format. the only "universal" formats I can think of is DNG and Apple ProRes

[fair onyx]

Very long story short, it was a severe tensor allocation issue caused by some form of incompatibility across multiple programs that was causing severe ghost tensor allocations that we're effectively gaslighting my GPU into thinking it was out of memory. Cache wipes, driver resets, cuda reinstallations, programming installations, Windows core file repairs, none of it was able to do anything.

I used task manager, Nvidia SMI, Nvidia Nsight, and all of them would show that it had all of its memory available, but it would hit a certain threshold anywhere between 4 GB and 23 GB and say that it was out of memory, and it would be so convinced that it was out of memory that it would start purging all of my other programs to try and make more space, and it would sometimes even crash my GPU drivers or result in a BSOD because it purged too many core files

The solution for right now has been switching to a different LLM loader, however the one that I'm using now also used to give me the exact same problem, but it's been rock solid without any problem sense. It's less ideal than the one that I've been using, but I opened a huge error report on their repository detailing all the problems I've been having

[velvet summit]

only useful if you plan to edit it in lightroom or equivalent

[light egret]

that didn't look very short

I'm joking

[velvet summit]

long story long: message too long

[idle nexus]

holy bananas can you run this in VM or something? lol

[fair onyx]

Considering this issue's been happening for a month and a half, and I've had over three dozen blue screens of deaths, seven different DDU uses, over 20 different program reinstalls, and over 300 hours trying to solve this, it is a pretty short response. I've had at least a dozen different people trying to help me with this issue at the same time, and it's been an absolute nightmare

[idle nexus]

is there a workaround?

[light egret]

This is your dual GPU issue?

[fair onyx]

I have no idea, honestly at this point I'm just really happy to be using a different program that's working reliably to do what I want to do, and then I can go back to it at some point if it ever gets solved, or the core problem gets found

[fair onyx]

No, this one affects even singular GPU. It's been beyond a nightmare for me

[idle nexus]

ya I dunno much about LLMs but that sounds like something they're doing wrong not you

[fair onyx]

Here, let me get the error report, so you can take a look at it if you want @idle nexus

There's a lot of information to go off of just how damn weird this issue is, but if you ever see anybody with an issue like this again, you can at least let them know that it's likely program-based

https://github.com/theroyallab/tabbyAPI/issues/187

[light egret]

Oh wow. but it followed through multiple builds didn't it? So is it through incompatibilites in programs you absolutelyt need?

[idle nexus]

try to find a way to pretend the LLM is a game & nexusmods will somehow fix it in like 24 hours lol

[idle nexus]

isn't OOM that decompression thing that really highlights 13/14th gen instability?

[fair onyx]

I honestly have absolutely no idea what specifically is causing it, but it is only happening now when I use Tabby. I used to use a different loader called ooba booga, and it used the exact same back end called EXL2, which is a LLM to C++ converter that runs several times faster on Nvidia, and it too used to give me the exact same problem, so I thought it was an EXL2 problem

But, it works completely flawlessly in oobabooga now, for dozens of model re-loads, and I can't even do it once in tabby. I've wiped all of its caches, reinstalled from source, reinstalled on a different drive, reinstalled with entirely different permissions and files, and every single installation of tabby will work for one load, and then blue screen of death

[fair onyx]

I thought that as well, but the fact that it doesn't happen on any of the other very high memory tasks that I do, and only this one seemed really really sketchy. That and I have a 12 600k

If you read through that whole long write-up that I made, a friend and I even worked on code that could ghost allocate tensors across my GPU in order to stress test it at dozens of different capacities, and it never had a single problem all the way up to 23.7 GB.

And the additionally weird thing that made me realize that it had to be the program was that I could have a OOM at 12 GB in Tabby, load a dummy tensor to 13 GB, and then load a small LLM just fine. So it's not a problem with it being at 12 GB, because then I would be at like 19 GB. But if I cleared that dummy tensor and tried to load a 12 GB again, it would OOM

There's so much to the issue, that write up is barely even half of the crap that I tried honestly

[idle nexus]

does the application tab in Event Viewer tell you anything useful?

[fair onyx]

So, fun thing about that

[idle nexus]

mine is telling me that Adobe Acrobat DC is very mad I changed its services start from Auto to manual lol

[fair onyx]

I had driver crashes that were so severe that my DGPU and I GPU disconnected, and event viewer literally stopped functioning

[idle nexus]

damn

it's kinda crazy the program has enough privileges to kill critical system tasks

[fair onyx]

You have no idea, it stopped task manager from working as well. It completely locked up and suspended itself, throwing an error saying that I was critical on memory, even though I only had like 16 GB of my 64 used, and my 3090 only had like 8 GB used

[idle nexus]

maybe it's one of those like dividing by zero errors

[fair onyx]

Who knows honestly...

I do know that every time I would have a consecutive OOM, my VRAM capacity would go lower and lower. That's also detailed in that error report I made

Highly recommend you take a look at the error report, it goes over so many different things I tried, and so many weird behaviors I found

[mortal grail]

This is ur issue from the other day right

If you can repeat this behaviour then yeah I think you might have hit the nail on the head

[idle nexus]

I really wish I understood what was going on better to actually have something constructive to say lol

on an unrelated note, my 12100F kinda sucks

[mortal grail]

F

[idle nexus]

what was the nvidia program you used?

[mortal grail]

?

[fair onyx]

Yeah, that's a small section from the post that I made detailing a bug report for the program that I use. I've spent so much goddamn time trying to figure out what's going on here. I'm just happy to know that it's for sure not a hardware problem, considering I'm using the exact same back end loader in a different program consistently with no problems. The weird thing is, This secondary program that used the same back end did used to give me BSODs, but it's not anymore...

[fair onyx]

Me?

[idle nexus]

did I misunderstand that sorry

[mortal grail]

Which one were you asking lol

[fair onyx]

I used Nvidia SMI for command line viewing, and I used Nvidia Nsight with a GPU VRAM tracker and availability tracker to live log

[mortal grail]

Ooo that's pretty smart

[fair onyx]

Every capacity and availability measure I used said that I had exactly as much as was being reported used, and exactly as much was remaining available, even though it would still tell me that I was out of memory, and it would physically become impossible to load any more into my VRAM without closing the program

[idle nexus]

ah rightI wrote that down

nvidiai-smi.exe on elevated cmd

[fair onyx]

Like if I OOM'd at 12GB and tried to load 1GB more, it would literally just say "no" while everything capable of measuring my capacity would say I could easily do it

If I OOM'd in tabby, My entire computer would lose access to loading anything additional into VRAM until I closed it

[idle nexus]

you might benefit from downloading nvidia inspector & messing with driver settings you can't usually get to

[mortal grail]

There's a whole.webpage of commands

[fair onyx]

Maybe, yeah. The developer of EXL2, the back end of that I'm using to load these models responded to my bug report, so I'll be getting back to him pretty soon

[mortal grail]

This is very interesting, maybe each of these programs create like a container shell environment and try to preallocate vram

[surreal kernel]

any professional minecrafters here

[mortal grail]

So therefore you see no loaded vram, but it's partitioned, like an ssd, and can't be accessed by the other programs

[surreal kernel]

can someone explain what happened here

[fair onyx]

This is basically exactly what I saw from two completely unrelated bug reports on different GitHubs.

They said essentially exactly that. They referred to them as ghost allocations, which could compound when the program forgets to close its own allocations, and thus loses the ability to close them later down the line.

Essentially, it's an allocation that is only accessible and viewable by the GPU, to where any program on the OS can't even see it, but it is there, and it will cause problems

[mortal grail]

Yeah, it sounds like a reasonable explanation

[fair onyx]

And it makes 100% sense, when I had four OOM errors before BSOD, each one after the other OMed at lower and lower capacity, showing that more and more of these allocations were compounding

I also found that just restarting my computer usually wouldn't do anything, but if I fully shut it down and then pulled the power plug and put it back in, then it would work. It's almost like the ghost allocations were persisting even through restarts because the computer never lost power, so the VRAM continued to persist

[mortal grail]

Closing the program and freeing the allocation hints to that being a valid explanation

Ye

So dev bugs

[mortal grail]

One of your giggly friends dropped a bunch of zombies on ya from above maybe

[surreal kernel]

survival

only 2 of us were in

[idle nexus]

helpful setting for benchmarking

[surreal kernel]

you can see him in the background

[mortal grail]

Hmm idk then

I played minecraft once in like

2011

[surreal kernel]

this why they say don't play minecraft at 3 am bruh

should've listened to em

[idle nexus]

I swear there used to be a setting on nvidiaprofileinspector for memory allocation but now I can't find it

I've read like every line in NvidiaProfileInspector & I know what at least 3-4 things do lmao

[mortal grail]

Nice try

Ggood do it

Kill im

[idle nexus]

does this violate server rules, I'm not even sure lol

[mortal grail]

Yes

[craggy shoal]

That’s exactly how I expect you to sound

[mortal grail]

REAL

Haha

[idle nexus]

the deed is done

[mortal grail]

The strongest gary

[idle nexus]

not sure it was a direct rule violation but it definitely violated the spirit of the rules lol

[wary fjord]

XD yes xenos mini map because i have no sense of direction also

[tacit geode]

end of life as we know it

im offically married

[craggy shoal]

goodbye

[wary fjord]

Oh no

[mortal grail]

Spam, @ everyone spam tagging

[mortal grail]

Oh no

[tacit geode]

well she gamer

[wary fjord]

It means u stuck with one stick of ram.

[tacit geode]

and i have a child with her

so

its only fair

[proud jackal]

Congrats

[tranquil pebble]

I need to find more of this

[mortal grail]

Wha

[wary fjord]

My dreams be like

[mortal grail]

LOL

[wary fjord]

U know what dont give the creator an idea

This might be a reality

Soon

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-spaghetti-ai-generated-ai-weird-gif-2144490847553017938

[wary fjord]

Deym

I dont like how the spaghettis moving like a worm

[surreal kernel]

oh it's my friend LMAO

[craggy shoal]

y'all probably sound the same lol

[wary fjord]

"Friend"

[surreal kernel]

real

[wary fjord]

Im ready

Hope it land on my house

[idle nexus]

MSI AB works on Android?

[wary fjord]

Used to

[craggy shoal]

Probably for Android glazers who run Android on their main PC (yes that's a thing)

[idle nexus]

https://event.msi.com/us/afterburnerapp/install.html

[mortal grail]

Overclock my snapdragon to run at Throttle GHz faster

[idle nexus]

it's just for monitoring

[mighty hazel]

I assume it’s not a good idea to buy an aio from them now then

[idle nexus]

it might be. I've never used their AIOs

[mortal grail]

Have you read Gary's letter

[idle nexus]

I can tell you that their opaque coolant is sludge that clogs everything

[mighty hazel]

I haven’t

[idle nexus]

I never finished it lol

[surreal kernel]

I can't even talk

[mortal grail]

It's like listening to Phoenix wright on a winning barister case

[mighty hazel]

Ik their water cooling stuff isn’t that great but it’s expensive from what I’ve heard

[wary fjord]

Hows school tho xd u lawywr yet

[idle nexus]

lol results pending still

nervous as heck I try not to think about it

[surreal kernel]

I said well your wrong lowk

that guy is like 2 years younger than me

see I might lack common knowledge

[wary fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-villager-staring-phoenixsc-gif-25945930

[surreal kernel]

but

[craggy shoal]

2 years can do something to a person lol

[mortal grail]

Like add 2 years to them

[surreal kernel]

I started smoking 2 years ago

😔

[wary fjord]

Smoking bad

[craggy shoal]

makes sense lol

[surreal kernel]

but

its good

at the same time

I'd kill for this summer again brk

pulling all nighters

and smoking cigs in the balcony

[wary fjord]

U gonna pass dont worry what could go wrong.. Can u take again if u dint make it? Is it infinite retest?

[surreal kernel]

that morning fog is just something

[idle nexus]

I could retake ya

[idle nexus]

get a juul or something lol

[wary fjord]

Thats nicotine talking

[mortal grail]

[surreal kernel]

no

Marlboro gold is all a man could ever ask for

and a redbull

[idle nexus]

lol

[craggy shoal]

https://tenor.com/bU423.gif

[tranquil pebble]

https://x.com/dexerto/status/1831739073272459665?s=46&t=wfVK6Ml8hQOLMHN4GRCH1g

Dexerto (@Dexerto) on X

A Cinnamon Toast Crunch flavored bacon is launching this month

Twitter · Sep 5, 2024, 5:00 PM

[craggy shoal]

America

[idle nexus]

juul is better cuz you can do it inside without it staining your curtains & smelling bad for eternity lol

[surreal kernel]

fs

[surreal kernel]

but I like the smell of cigs tho

also I smoke iqos and vapes indoors

my parents ain't know that I smoke

[wary fjord]

Ooooo we gonna snitch

[surreal kernel]

I've only done ts when I was on holiday at my friend's hotel

[surreal kernel]

Talking about that

mom found a terea inside

[wary fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-yakuza7-yakuza-like-a-dragon-ichiban-your-mom-gif-19583592

[surreal kernel]

my bag

[tranquil pebble]

I need some coffee ice cream

[surreal kernel]

I didn't even know how it ended there

[idle nexus]

I have terrible news

it seems that after 4 years of hard use

the left click my Logitech MX Ergo track ball mouse is failing

[nocturne flicker]

Hold up I'm not disgusted by this one

We do maple bacon, cinnamon sugar bacon ain't too crazy

[idle nexus]

I never got into the put bacon on everything trend

[tranquil pebble]

bacon is good on pizza

[idle nexus]

I've had this

it is real

can confirm

[nocturne flicker]

Isn't that basically just marshmallow?

[tranquil pebble]

and vanilla too ig

[idle nexus]

imo this is hands down their best creamer

[light egret]

I only like milk and sugar lol

[tranquil pebble]

coffee flavored coffee creamer when

[idle nexus]

lol just don't put creamer

or use milk

or creamer?

[nocturne flicker]

Bake coffee cake using coffee flavored creamer to eat with coffee mixed with coffee flavored creamer

[tranquil pebble]

Coffee flavored milk exists and I want to try it

[idle nexus]

Pilon is best coffee don't at me

[nocturne flicker]

I don't even like coffee

[tranquil pebble]

I just buy starbucks coffee beans because that is what is most readily available to buy in stores here. Only problem is its overpriced...

[pliant berry]

make your own coffee beans

[tranquil pebble]

Miku reaction to ChatGPT

[idle nexus]

I don't get beans I get the already ground up ones lol

[tranquil pebble]

well yeah thats what I meant

[tranquil pebble]

I do want to get a grinder though so I can buy the whole beans

They stay fresh longer

[idle nexus]

makes sense

seems like extra work tho

[tranquil pebble]

Electric grinders exist

[idle nexus]

but it would be easier to make exact amount by like counting the beans lol

lol ya I had one in college for uh reasons

[wary fjord]

I just do 3-1 packs

XD we have coffee here called kopiko

[sweet sun]

why did my techdeal post get downvoted

bacca showed the same thing but 200$ more and it got a billion upvotes

[wary fjord]

XD

[wary fjord]

Rng

Be good next time

[tranquil pebble]

Dell. That is why.

probably

[sweet sun]

precision

ecc support + xeon support

= w

[craggy shoal]

yeah okay

[silver sparrow]

so a friend of mine recently got a 4k oled, and he told me "i keep saying to myself “everything’s so fricking beautiful”". so like does anyone else have bags of money that balled out on a 4k oled, and is it worth it?

[tranquil pebble]

and proprietary power connections.... so no easy PSU swaps

or mobo swaps

[sweet sun]

lemme check

[tranquil pebble]

if you can prove it is ATX and not Dell specific stuff in it then fine

[sweet sun]

this just looks matx

lemme check the screw laypur

[craggy shoal]

knowing Dell, that is far from mATX

[tranquil pebble]

no VRM heatsinks...

[sweet sun]

its matx

lmao

dell moment???

the motherboard stinks tho

but its fine

[tranquil pebble]

fine until you fry the VRMs

[sweet sun]

psu is also atx

[craggy shoal]

no heatsink on the chipset either bruh

[sweet sun]

so its perfectly fine

[craggy shoal]

OH THANK GOD IT'S AN ATX PSU. THAT'LL MAKE IT FUNCTION WITHOUT ISSUES

lmao

[fervent stump]

Where would the ssd go?

[velvet summit]

M.2 and sata

[tranquil pebble]

is that... a PCI slot?!

[velvet summit]

Could also get PCIe to m.2 or PCIe SSDs

[sweet sun]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/387337007123?_nkw=precision+3630&itmmeta=01J72FKW2GJY8NJWH9GVT30ZFW&hash=item5a2f15b013:g:QH4AAOSwkwNmzyWU&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKlZ7OTIGyilIrbo7u3OYKb9yDHD5Eq9Seh9KHYb4r%2FAsa2DF828an4eO30L2Bq1%2BQMS6NFrMf1OuNCVaDgGRlh%2Fe3dqVCigmRslCl8rr3fBKRM1%2Bh1EGBMp71gBkyxOn6zNmcPw4Cz7UTCK0%2FJ4xSQ0EgI8BkMErNHI9OiDU0tHLHmkIZQsYrpibFVW--txCBoQbMITvG3V39zeuWKHmH1oLMh%2FMnFEWZNfSh5mkTchThYWcL%2BAyPD9Km1jp7V9S3%2BTQSUJYmA%2BI2w%2Fbt4cy8KTFmf5DqkSzw9ktv8brXyObQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR6rBz8-4ZA also its significantly less fine of a deal because this sells for like 0$

[craggy shoal]

such a goofy spot for an M.2 lmao

[fervent stump]

Ohhh that’s weird I don’t like that

[sweet sun]

which is good

[velvet summit]

It's an OEM board

[sweet sun]

bc you can build your own precision gaming rig

for

like 300$

i forgot how cheap these precisions are

[tranquil pebble]

If M.2 is so good where is M.3?

[sweet sun]

he9sdtulgfsahgrdhsuuhsgpfdhuasgfuhpagfshuogdfspohiusgdhapuosareopiughpasjhierihpsaorgfhiosprehoiaesfhoipesradhopihrsaedihoraseophisarepiohsaeropihsared

[craggy shoal]

L opinion

[tranquil pebble]

if only bots could edit posts so that a bot could be made to filter these links

[fervent stump]

Good night motor 👋🙂

[lone mango]

Fr where PC 2 at

[craggy shoal]

😐

[lone mango]

[fervent stump]

?

[fervent stump]

CAT

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-jumping-cat-excited-excited-dance-gif-19354605

[craggy shoal]

This idiot bent the Please do not bend paper

[lone mango]

He is very content in that spot

[rancid juniper]

World's first Catbender

[tranquil pebble]

getting tired of hearing straight piped vehicles outside my apartment all day ngl

[craggy shoal]

Wanna trade living situations?

[fervent stump]

What case do you own?

[craggy shoal]

Lian Li (I want to change it)

[tranquil pebble]

why? you like that noise?

[fervent stump]

Oh it looks good though

What model is it?

[craggy shoal]

Is it a good car noise? Or is it just nasely 4 bangers everywhere?

[craggy shoal]

O11 Dynamic Evo

[tranquil pebble]

Dont get me wrong, a growling V8 is a great sound... I just dont like them blowing my ears out

[craggy shoal]

I just want to get away from the Lian Li hate lol

[craggy shoal]

Bett let's swap places

[tranquil pebble]

most of it is actually two-cylinders

[idle nexus]

whoa

[craggy shoal]

Doubt it tbh 💀

[idle nexus]

LianLi has a Lambo case?? https://lian-li.com/product/o11dergbl/

[tranquil pebble]

motorcycles

[craggy shoal]

oh gotcha

like two-stroke V-twins?

[tranquil pebble]

and occasionally a pickup truck doing it

[tranquil pebble]

likely 4 strokes but yes

[idle nexus]

damn this lambo case is kinda nice

I wouldn't buy it but

kinda nice ya

[fervent stump]

I GOT A CASE I LIKE https://a.co/d/gXIju2K

[tranquil pebble]

this is what the site looks like for me

[craggy shoal]

I hate Lian Li's site

[idle nexus]

$800?!

[tranquil pebble]

Im gonna run a performance test on it via debug tools just for lulz

[idle nexus]

wait jk it's $279

https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-000Z-000D5?

[craggy shoal]

I'd rather just grab a Lambo logo and add it myself 💀

[fervent stump]

Why would I want one though

[fervent stump]

Exactly

[idle nexus]

cuz a real lambo is like $400k lol

[fervent stump]

I rather just save for a Lamborghini Urus

[sinful blade]

I saw this in person

[craggy shoal]

I'm not gonna lie though, Lamborghinis are kinda slow

[sinful blade]

It looks phenomenal

[craggy shoal]

I've seen modded Miatas beat Lamborghinis lol (yeah it's modded, but it's a Miata. It shouldn't beat Lamborghinis lol)

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/D4bLhPKJAo

[sinful blade]

My dream car has stayed the same for 13 years

Lamborghini Countach.

Don’t care what anybody says

[tranquil pebble]

stupid expensive for a mid tower

[sinful blade]

It’s a special partnership with a car company in a big case

[rancid juniper]

mmm good vibes

[tranquil pebble]

yeah a huge cut of that probably is lambo license

[fervent stump]

I’d get a lambo for looks I want a Lamborghini Urus or Aventador SVJ

I like the noise

https://youtube.com/shorts/8rfVdo8SPMw?si=Pp868wADLwvvorJv

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/car-driving-gif-8597781

[fervent stump]

It’s so cool

[craggy shoal]

I want a Mercedes S600 so bad lol

[tranquil pebble]

lol

[gentle canyon]

an SVJ is probably my unobtainable dream car

but id like a nice mustang

[tranquil pebble]

for me unobtainable dream would be McLaren F1

[craggy shoal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK1fk4rYYZg

[craggy shoal]

Windows 7's 15th birthday will be on October 22, 2024

[fervent stump]

I have a question about airflow in this case since there is glass at the top. Would it be worth getting this for looks and performance or would I be better off getting the normal mesh version?

[idle nexus]

weird PSU

[craggy shoal]

I'd get the mesh version for more neutral airflow

[buoyant kraken]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=mom2TLs3Fi0

[velvet summit]

that didnt work

oops

[craggy shoal]

bruh what

[velvet summit]

i was hoping that it would make it like

extra long

💀

oh well

[fervent stump]

Oki thank you

[velvet summit]

the piano looking psu makes a return

[fervent stump]

Is there extra plugs on it?

[idle nexus]

all the plugs go there

not extra ones lol

[fervent stump]

Wait I may know why they did it like that

[fervent stump]

Oh 😭

[craggy shoal]

Intakes at the bottom (so your reverse bladed fans) and exhausts at the top (make the fans push the air out from the AIO)

[fervent stump]

Good night 343

[velvet summit]

🗿

gn i guess

[fervent stump]

That’s what I was going to do that’s what I thought about then I was like I’d just ask here and go to sleep after

[velvet summit]

why me specifically

[fervent stump]

I wanted to call someone something they don’t normally get called

But still part of their name

[tranquil pebble]

delidded Threadripper looks like this

[velvet summit]

343 is specifically the name part of my name lmao

stems from scp-343

[fervent stump]

Most people don’t call you igetmen?

[craggy shoal]

igetmen lol

[velvet summit]

lmfao

[tranquil pebble]

SCP-6959 is best SCP

[fervent stump]

Ok fine

[fervent stump]

Good night en34

[velvet summit]

💀

[fervent stump]

Me go sleep now

[dusk knot]

Nicely done

[tranquil pebble]

not mine, I would not delid mine personally

if for no other reason than Id be unable to attach to a cooler to it without the IHS

Wikipedia is smoking something...

[misty sparrow]

How do you think they’re keeping the servers up

they got their own supply

[silver sparrow]

this would make maybe a cool theme'd build

get some custom screens, custom water loop, black and gold theme

[craggy shoal]

I could fabricate that myself

[chrome mirage]

There's a bear

[craggy shoal]

hug it

[tranquil pebble]

dumb ways to die number idk

[pliant berry]

go say hello

[craggy shoal]

he looks lonely 🥺

go fix him

[chrome mirage]

It got closer

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/watching-boogie-staring-fence-im-watching-you-gif-20032573

[weak cedar]

haha your spam did not work on me

[tranquil pebble]

average spammer L

[proud jackal]

Maybe I should go 7950X3D

[rancid juniper]

no theo

pls wait

[proud jackal]

You're right

Intel will be at it

[rancid juniper]

._.

[proud jackal]

R-right?

[rancid juniper]

lol no

well maybe...

but i'd wait for 9950x3d

[proud jackal]

Core 9 838583892K

[rancid juniper]

💀

[fair rampart]

Cute dog bro

Is it a golden retriever

[pliant berry]

I know someone that started approaching a coyote thinking it was a dog lol

[craggy shoal]

coyote was like "lol I can literally attack you and you don't even know it bro"

[pliant berry]

is there such thing as the perfect playlist

[chrome mirage]

I think it's a mixed breed

[mortal grail]

Attack it then dance on it

[dusk knot]

Save your money

PC upgrades aren’t everything

[mortal grail]

Yes

[dusk knot]

Yes to what?

[lone mango]

[mortal grail]

Say yes to yes

[rancid juniper]

Nvidia RTX 5080 and RTX 5090 are reportedly 'scheduled to officially launch in September' and we'll believe it when we see them https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/nvidia-rtx-5080-and-rtx-5090-are-reportedly-scheduled-to-officially-launch-in-september-and-well-believe-it-when-we-see-them/

[grand kernel]

can't wait to upgrade from my ancient 4080 so I can play some real games (fortnite)

[mortal grail]

Wtf
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZlGZtWkLIYw

[paper verge]

wdym wow ofc it does

[paper verge]

LMFAO

[mortal grail]

SAID IT WAS UP TO US

UP TO US, TO DECIDE

[mortal grail]

😂😂😂😂

@mighty hazel

[sweet phoenix]

https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-599-SE-Headphone/dp/B07RFNZYJZ

Hmmm

[fervent stump]

For 7800x3d what ram should I get 6400 or 6000?

[wicked oriole]

^i want to know too because the pc I got with a 7800x3d has 64 (32 x 2) ddr5 4800 ram 🙃

Does have a pro b650m-p motherboard

[wary fjord]

https://youtu.be/i0vMeqFSOsc?si=srA1xFPZwI_SJ61i

Impressive xD

[topaz crown]

Hello @ruby drum! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[mortal grail]

Looks like the bot works

@random osprey spam

Few channels

[velvet summit]

On an unrelated note, it really baffles me how we live our whole life being blind in the center of our vision without noticing

[copper fable]

Hey, my PSVR 2 has a very serious tracking issue when connected through the PC adapter... is it due to my Bluetooth adapter being bad enough?

It is playable but very little

[sweet sun]

are these good

[sweet sun]

6000

[sour smelt]

Is there any am5 mobos that have wifi 7? I've noticed some of the intel ones have it already.

[sweet sun]

probably

[sour smelt]

All the ones I found on Newegg were wifi 6.

[young matrix]

Probably

[young matrix]

Check pcpartpicker

[sweet sun]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-x670e-aorus-pro-x/p/N82E16813145485

i found one

why are you asking though

[sour smelt]

oh, that one. yea... I forgot about that one, but its a bit pricy for me.

[young matrix]

Early adopter tax

Tbh you dont need wifi 7 unless you need high speed local transfers

[sour smelt]

I am just asking because I am planning on making a new build, so I was curious when I noticed that some of the intel boards have wif 7 and the amd ones did not on Newegg.

with that gigabyte being the exception. It's not something I would get in a heartbeart for that price. lol

[sweet sun]

why do you want wifi 7

also it was just an example

[elfin mural]

wifi 7 is redundant unless you have a router with wifi 7

and an internet fast enough

[sour smelt]

I am just comparing parts currently. It's one of the features that I've noticed that wasn't on the amd boards when I was using Newegg.

[sweet sun]

ok

[elfin mural]

do you plan to buy a wifi 7 router anytime soon?

a lot of devices are actually still on ac and ax, 5 and 6

with 6e giving a new band

[sweet sun]

cool

i only have wifi 6 ;(

[sour smelt]

probably since I have been having problems with my current one.

[elfin mural]

that is a driver/adapter issue to me

[sweet sun]

why not wired?

[elfin mural]

amd boards use mediatek wifi a lot of the time

[sour smelt]

of my modem/router?

[elfin mural]

and mediatek wifi cards absolutely suck

either that or your wifi card

wifi is complicated if you have issues, and you should go from the cheapest solution to the most expensive

[sour smelt]

it's not just my pc, dude. It's the whole house when it comes to my internet problems.

[elfin mural]

oh yeah

[velvet summit]

room issue ususally

[elfin mural]

that's your router then

[velvet summit]

psvr2 isnt known for the best quality tracking in some room conditions

[elfin mural]

nothing to do with your devices

[sweet sun]

perry why not wired

[elfin mural]

wired only solves the wifi issue for fixed devices tho

[sour smelt]

I was just comparing features between intel and amd board, and I was curious about the wifi feature between them.

[elfin mural]

he stated it's his whole house

[sweet sun]

wired is just better tho

[sweet sun]

yea

[elfin mural]

im aware

[sweet sun]

they are about the same

[velvet summit]

fyi 802.11be aka wifi 7 isnt finalized yet

[elfin mural]

but you can't really use ethernet with a phone

[velvet summit]

there still could be some changes to it

[elfin mural]

yeah

it's just draft spec rn

[velvet summit]

somewhat unlikely for it to be changed significantly between now and the time it is finalized, but still better to wait till it is imo

should be finished by end of 2024

[elfin mural]

i think you need a new router

[velvet summit]

depending on your house, you also may need more APs

concrete walls attenuate RF signals way more than drywall

if your house has concrete walls

plaster as well

[sour smelt]

Some of my devices are wired like the family TV, printer, and family PC, but it looks like either my ISP or my modem/router is the issue here. The internet connection consistently cuts out for the whole house every now and then.

[velvet summit]

ah

yeah that's the isp's issue more likely

or an outdated modem

if your modem is like 20 years old, it's probably time to change it

if it's less than 5 years old, it's probably just the isp

the bot be working overtime today lmao

[copper fable]

My Bluetooth adapter isn't that good it's from speedlink... but actually could be that my room is messy

[sour smelt]

Nah. It's not THAT old, but it is one of the cheaper low-end ones tho.

[copper fable]

But that never happened to me on the meta quest 2...

[velvet summit]

the headset tracking data should be sent via the cable, so that shouldnt be the issue

quest 2 has better tracking algos than sony

different tracking methods even technically

[copper fable]

Yeah movement works alright only the controllers sometimes disappear and just move like it's laggy

[velvet summit]

hmm

[copper fable]

I mean movement in terms of me moving

Not the controllers

[sweet sun]

rip

my internet also sucks

im trying to get wired internet up to my room

[velvet summit]

if it's the controllers that are doing it, yeah it might be the bluetooth
do you have antennas attached to the adapter? if it's built in or a pcie card

[copper fable]

It's not a pcie card. I'm not even sure I still have one left... I just bought the Asus BT500... and no, my current speedlink one doesn't have antennas nor the asus one

But I've heard it's much better

[velvet summit]

i would expect cheap low end ones to not drop out randomly ususally? do you know if your isp has a good reputation for a stable connection or not

[copper fable]

And I am like a few centimeters from my pc

So...

2-3 meters

[velvet summit]

ah

[copper fable]

Using this adapter is expectionally good for how bad it is... it is kinda but not really playable...

But that's probably because I'm very close

[velvet summit]

do you live in the city? or rural? because in the city, there's more likelyhood of there being interference on the 2.4ghz spectrum

[sour smelt]

We haven't had this much of an issue with Cox Cable before from what I've remember, but that was years ago.

[velvet summit]

well, hopefully the asus adapter helps, but yeah

[copper fable]

You asked me or him?

[velvet summit]

you

[copper fable]

Yeah... Sony evens lists this in their website so..m

[copper fable]

In a city but there is not many people around...

But I'm pretty sure it's the adapter...

[velvet summit]

well, you could complain to the isp and they could do some investigations on their end

[copper fable]

Since xbox controllers work just fine (guess it's much easier to operate)

My 300€ headset too

[velvet summit]

xbox controller would be used closer to the adapter though

or i would assume

[copper fable]

Yeah but I am that kind of close

With the psvr 2 controllers

So it must be the Bluetooth adapter being too low end

[velvet summit]

yeah, and bluetooth on windows is kinda jank

[copper fable]

Or even worse, the pc adapter being bad

[velvet summit]

nah, it probably wouldnt be the psvr2 adapter

[copper fable]

I would love to do VR on my OpenSUSE partition but I'm not sure that's possible 😂

[copper fable]

Yeah... it works just fine no lag and it's crispy

[sour smelt]

Nah, we're just gonna switch ISPs because my sister and her family have had issues with Cox Cable recently.

[velvet summit]

i have a friend that does vr on arch, though they did have to jump through some hoops to do so

[velvet summit]

yeah that's fair

[copper fable]

As an arch user, you are willing to do everything but I am not an arch user...

I did install arch to a VM though

[craggy shoal]

I want to install arch on bare metal and daily that for at least a week lol

[copper fable]

I did that too on my laptop

But I don't really use it

[copper fable]

If you are planning on installing many packages, expect it to break at some point 😅😂😭

You can install arch in 2 minutes technically

[craggy shoal]

Breaking a Linux installation. Couldn't imagine 💀

[copper fable]

Noon I meant post installing

But you can do that when installing

[craggy shoal]

I know exactly wym

[velvet summit]

tbh it could also be because of drivers
Also considering that it's a usb device, maybe see if it's a usb 3 connector and try one of those ports to see if it helps

[copper fable]

I think it's already connected to a 3.2 one... but is there a software that can show me the amount of bandwidth?

[velvet summit]

i dont think so

[copper fable]

As in verifying that it's running on a USB 3

Yeah since it's plug and play it might target USB 2 automatically

So it's capped

[craggy shoal]

I haven't been following and I just woke up so I don't feel like scrolling up (sorry lol). What's the issue?

And is this Bluetooth via USB? (this will probably be your issue lol)

[velvet summit]

psvr2 controllers having weird tracking, potentially from a cheap bt adapter

[copper fable]

And I wasn't able to sleep the whole day 😴

[mortal grail]

New phone who dis

[craggy shoal]

couldn't sleep during the course of the whole day? :0 yeah you're supposed to sleep at night

silly goose

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[copper fable]

As in not sleeping since last night...

[craggy shoal]

Good afternoon. How's the weather

[craggy shoal]

e

[mortal grail]

I'm burning but hru

[copper fable]

I'm still awake since then... I did probably sleep but very lightly and poorly

[copper fable]

You are in Europe

I guess

It's afternoon for me too

[craggy shoal]

Nah I was talking to Felix. He's in Australia. Just greeting him lol

(it's probably night there. idk lol)

[copper fable]

😅

[craggy shoal]

I'm American

[copper fable]

Make sense 👌

You know what no what about all the slang and writing without capital letters

You aren't a real American

😔

[craggy shoal]

you mean typing like this ?

lowercase and a space before punctuation like an idiot?

[copper fable]

u mean typin like dis?

Hahahhaha

[copper fable]

Yes

[craggy shoal]

yeah forgot about the u and 4 real and sum1 and other garbage lmao

[copper fable]

Exactly

[copper fable]

Hahaha I didn't 😆

[sweet sun]

ew punctuation

[craggy shoal]

Space before punctuation is my biggest annoyance lol. Goofy punctuation rules came out of nowhere and the most annoying of people type like that 💀

nobody but smooth brains typing like that imo

[sweet sun]

thats why i dont punctuationate .

[craggy shoal]

L opinion

[sweet sun]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/176366541564?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=LvzFJDZQRAq&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=ddlrml9ctae&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY w or l

[elfin mural]

i only punctuate when i need to

aka um, acting formal

but no that's an L

[copper fable]

Amazing 👏

[craggy shoal]

I wouldn't pay that much for a CPU in 2019 lol

[elfin mural]

i9 and W board is better

12900k i mean

[sweet sun]

but does it support optane pdimms?

didnt think so

[copper fable]

Oh my head hurts I shouldn't have played beat saber 😔

[sweet sun]

whats the hardest SONG you have beaten

in beatsamer

[craggy shoal]

"But does it support [insert niche feature that doesn't matter much]? Didn't think so"

[elfin mural]

i don't think you do anything that needs optane

being real with you

[sweet sun]

wrong

[copper fable]

I haven't played for years I don't even remember I just did expert plus I think 🤔

[elfin mural]

does data centers even use those pdimms

[copper fable]

With all the tracking issues

[sweet sun]

yea

[copper fable]

That was annoying

[elfin mural]

infact a lot of em run amd epyc

[mortal grail]

I do this when I can tell someone's first language isn't english

[sweet sun]

its made for data centers as cheap ram

[mortal grail]

It helps them use translate lol

[sweet sun]

old data centers did

not new ones lol

[elfin mural]

they don't care about those optane pdimms

if they willingly hop to amd platforms lol

it's a niche that died off

not even worth dabbling into

it's barely a flex too

[sweet sun]

yea bc ram is cheaper and ssds are faster

[elfin mural]

no one cares at the end of the day ngl

[craggy shoal]

I don't even think it's an "I am learning English please go easy on me" thing. I understand if you're learning English (as a native English speaker). For me, it's more of a "I highly doubt anybody taught you punctuation like that, so why are you typing like the end of this question and not the comma in this question ?" thing

[sweet sun]

you dont care*

[craggy shoal]

no lol he's right

[elfin mural]

if i don't care, does the normies even care?

i pull my laptops and phones apart to fix em

i would surely know a thing or two about tech

[copper fable]

What have I done... You are still talking about punctuation 😂

[mortal grail]

Hmmmm

[mortal grail]

We do this a lot, think of it like we're in a pub lol

It's just a new convo topic

[elfin mural]

anyway, all the general public knows about datacenters is that they hold a lot of data, that's all

[mortal grail]

All them passports and credit cards

[elfin mural]

exactly

[mortal grail]

I love how sony's biggest downturn this year was caused by data harvesting

[elfin mural]

some articles make me wanna turn off the internet for a day

"nvidia started making ai chips, but why are their stocks falling"

[mortal grail]

Cos they got hit with a subpoena for anti trust

[copper fable]

Lol. I actually should be the one who's scared from all of this... I'm not a native English speaker... 😅😂

[elfin mural]

these journalists, they act stupid for clicks

[mortal grail]

I can use punctuation like this , if it makes it easier ? ☠️

[copper fable]

Hahaha my understanding is 100x better than my writing and speaking don't worry 😉 😅

[elfin mural]

i can type decent english with comprehensible grammar

but speaking it..

[copper fable]

Since I always watch YouTube videos so it helps....

[elfin mural]

let alone writing it

[copper fable]

You still have time to think... but speaking makes you rush

[elfin mural]

yeah

[copper fable]

Anyway, I still have much to learn

[elfin mural]

speaking is so on the fly

you barely have time to think

[copper fable]

Yeah and native English speakers don't understand the difficulty...

[mortal grail]

I kinda get it because even I mix up the 10 different words for the same thing

English is annoying

Overly complicated

[young matrix]

Ok but what are you doing that requires optane

Realistically no consumer hardware needs it

[copper fable]

Would that be considered weird if I'll tell you that I need to shower 💀

[mortal grail]

Homework

[young matrix]

At most optane is used in a home nas as a SLOG or cache

[mortal grail]

Haha yes

[young matrix]

And even then there are more cost effective SLOG drives

[copper fable]

🤣