general-chat

[misty sparrow]

which is why i have no idea why they are trying to make electric muscle cars

isnt the whole point the feel

[elfin mural]

yeah

[velvet summit]

tbf
if you're driving legally, torque/accel is nicer than top speed

[mighty hazel]

Dodge made an ev, they made a stereo to mimic sounds 💀

It sounds so fake lmao

[elfin mural]

the feel of a big v8 rumbling

[craggy shoal]

I like the sound that comes with it though

Give me that V8 roar

[velvet summit]

ig

i personally dont have a huge preference between gas, hybrid, or pure ev

[misty sparrow]

It's a big sign that you should dodge purchasing that car if you know what i mean

[velvet summit]

mainly just pros and cons of the fuel medium and cost

[craggy shoal]

eargasm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxjdowWCMM4

[velvet summit]

i lean more towards EV because electricity is practically free here (nuclear ftw)

but the car's initial cost and like semi decadely batt replacements, and relatively low range throws me off

[tranquil pebble]

V8 Prius

[velvet summit]

i live kinda rural and there's no charging stations around

[misty sparrow]

same here except i don't live rural

[craggy shoal]

Finally. A normal EV preferrer who knows how nuclear energy works

[misty sparrow]

there's just no charging stations

how are they gonna expand EV charging stations across the US if there is absolutely nothing available in vital locations

[mighty hazel]

[velvet summit]

so yeah im currently sitting waiting for EVs to mature more before throwing myself into the deep end lmao

for now, i'll stick with gas or hybrid

💀

[misty sparrow]

i wonder if there's nitrogen powered cars or something

[velvet summit]

nitrogen?

[mighty hazel]

There’s hydrogen powered

[misty sparrow]

hydrogen

[mighty hazel]

Toyota

[misty sparrow]

oops

[mighty hazel]

Yes

[velvet summit]

lmao

[misty sparrow]

i meant hydrogen

i got them mixed up

[velvet summit]

hydrogen cars are even worse than EVs because there is nowhere you can get fueld up at

at least nowhere here

not even my house

💀

[misty sparrow]

but theoretically could they last longer though?

[velvet summit]

at least EVs you could just plug in

[misty sparrow]

if we just remove charging stations from the equation

[craggy shoal]

The government won't let it happen anyways

[velvet summit]

also hydrogen cars are just EVs with extra steps

the hydrogen fuel cells just generate power for the electric motors lol

[craggy shoal]

Yes this. I don't get the hype with hydrogen tbh lol

[velvet summit]

afaik hydrogen is more energy dense? and you'll be able to use less rare earth metals

possibly

[craggy shoal]

Yeah that would make sense

[mighty hazel]

They do exist

Toyota sells them

[craggy shoal]

Yeah the Mirai

bRuh how did I kill the chat

[tranquil pebble]

Nitrogen gas is rather inert so getting energy from it does not compute.

[misty sparrow]

if you scroll slightly down, though...

[tranquil pebble]

I did and still missed the message

[misty sparrow]

yeah

[tranquil pebble]

Hatsune Miku car

[misty sparrow]

imagine if all cars ran on hydrogen though

someone lights a cigarette nearby

[silver sparrow]

im going

insane

[elfin mural]

ideal future /j

get into crashes and watch as they explode

[tranquil pebble]

Cursed idea: a Linux distro with all of its UI implemented in Java

[misty sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/211187501153386496/1036165775385432175/IMG_6985.gif

[tranquil pebble]

more like barely visible flames and melting metal... yikes

[elfin mural]

yep

[north crescent]

imagine if all cars ran on gasoline though
someone lights a cigarette nearby...

[elfin mural]

hydrogen tanks are huge and they do expire faster than gas tanks need to be replaced

so that's.. gonna be fun to replace

[tranquil pebble]

Fortunately gasoline requires oxygen mixture to burn and it is harder to get the right mixture than it would seem

[elfin mural]

aka rip out your whole car's interior

just to replace a tank

[misty sparrow]

alternate 1950s future would be pretty cool to spectate

[tranquil pebble]

nuclear cars 1950s future

[elfin mural]

crash em and well

we have meltdowns

to think we would actually power everything with nuclear is insane to me

nuclear power brick when

[fervent stump]

There’s a moth in my room

I’m going to die 😭

[craggy shoal]

Kill it

[north crescent]

There's a room in your moth

[craggy shoal]

Death to annoyances

[fervent stump]

I’m scared

They are scarier then flies

[north crescent]

Okay, then eat it

[craggy shoal]

weak reason tbh

[north crescent]

Assert dominance

[fervent stump]

Mini >:(

[fervent stump]

It won

I have to hid under my sheets

[craggy shoal]

It's in your sheets with you

[fervent stump]

Waaaaa

😭

[misty sparrow]

you're afraid of a moth?

[fervent stump]

YES

[misty sparrow]

you have to fight back

kill it

[fervent stump]

I can’t

[craggy shoal]

Just turn on the light and distract it

[fervent stump]

It took my ten minutes to kill a fly once

[tranquil pebble]

betavoltaic batteries too lol

[fervent stump]

I HAD A ELECTRIC FLY SWATTER

[tranquil pebble]

those are AFAIK not dangerous though

[elfin mural]

that's good at least

[fervent stump]

I’ll try

[fervent stump]

It may have worked

[craggy shoal]

Whenever I see a roach I stomp its head and throw it into the toilet. I wait until I have to pee so I can pee all over the roach and have it ever regret entering my home

It will drown in my piss

[dawn tiger]

Wat

[craggy shoal]

You read that right

[tranquil pebble]

i just want to kill flies with lasers ngl

[dusk knot]

that can be done

[fervent stump]

😭

[dusk knot]

need a 5w laser

heh

[fervent stump]

Roaches are scarier

[dawn tiger]

Amazon has em

[fervent stump]

I can’t get near them

[craggy shoal]

I make roaches suffer

[dusk knot]

i just crush them

[fervent stump]

I just hide

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/professional-tf2-sniper-standard-have-gif-6626361308713432645

[tranquil pebble]

I just prevent them from entering my home in the first place

[fervent stump]

How

My cat attacks them

[tranquil pebble]

There are devices you can get that basically repel them

[dawn tiger]

Clean house = no roaches

[tranquil pebble]

not always

it helps a lot though

[rancid juniper]

roaches can just enter from any crack outside

[dawn tiger]

Don't have roaches

Mebbe smol ants once in a while

[fervent stump]

I’d rather hide in my bed

Nothing can get me

[craggy shoal]

We've been having more roaches lately because my stupid neighbors knocked down absolutely all of their trees and now the roaches are scattering for places to survive

[fervent stump]

I’d beat them up for cutting the trees

[craggy shoal]

Yeah I want to but that's illegal for some reason

[safe cape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmVm-_MAnZU

cant beat this

[craggy shoal]

The guy is British

Bruh wtf

I clicked on that video expecting just sound

Instead I heard the worst sound in existence (the British accent)

Don't ever send trash like that again wtf

[safe cape]

[craggy shoal]

lol

[fervent stump]

Sadly

[safe cape]

go to 2:20

[craggy shoal]

I still hear the accent

Can't watch

[rancid juniper]

to bless your ears: https://youtu.be/F0m6dvpK4m8?si=5kk3RV1_6sZXEqJ8

[craggy shoal]

Overrated car tbh

[rancid juniper]

😡

[craggy shoal]

Carrera GT sounds better

[rancid juniper]

mmm i can't deny its sound

[safe cape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iim8E0tmEPA

for you

[craggy shoal]

ngl though I've never seen anybody glaze the GT3 RS. Not even overrated imo

[craggy shoal]

This better not start with a person talking

[safe cape]

pure sound 100.000 %

[craggy shoal]

Okay perfect it doesn't

oh my gosh it sounds beautiful

[silver sparrow]

ok so like it seems the RGB on my Graphics card is brokey

and i dont know how

might have to do some sketchy things to hard wire in control for it

[unkempt remnant]

my pc blue screens and restarts every time i log into my pc does anyone know what’s wrong?

[fresh nova]

Without further information, specs & photos no.

https://tenor.com/view/a-different-world-tell-me-more-interested-tell-me-everything-go-on-gif-18614433

[unkempt remnant]

can i dm you details? bc this problem has been going on since yesterday

[fresh nova]

Post in chat so the other Techies can see

[unkempt remnant]

alright

[fresh nova]

Your issue could be related to anything so Gen chat should be fine

[silver sparrow]

pc brokey get a new one /s

[fresh nova]

[silver sparrow]

it fixes the issue though! no more blue screens

[unkempt remnant]

i bought my pc from new egg 2 years ago and i have my warranty still so if i cant fix it i might as well get a new one

im abt to send pictures

[tranquil pebble]

If you were to randomly generate like a million image files in the same folder then turn on thumbnail view... Explorer would just die.

not before eating all your RAM though

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/chis-sweet-home-cat-full-gif-10648431

[normal pebble]

hello everyone

wonder if anyone can help me with my situation on NAS hard drive

Need to replace one drive. I have 4 of these in my Seagate 4-bday NAS

the specs of the drive are: https://www.hdsentinel.com/storageinfo_details.php?lang=en&model=SEAGATE ST4000VN000

what is the recommended closest replacement?

[sweet phoenix]

Do you want 4tb, or more

And are you in the US?

[normal pebble]

yes... needs to be 4TB as they are all 4TB and want the same closest for RAID config

based in Canada

[sweet phoenix]

Ah I've never messed with raid before

One sec

[proud jackal]

[pliant berry]

Ideally you use same model drive, idr what success rate is for mismatched

[normal pebble]

I just want something closest to the same config of the other 3 drives

[sweet phoenix]

This should be fine
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/qkTZxr/western-digital-wd-blue-4-tb-35-5400-rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd40ezax

If it needs to be the same speed
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/zZ38TW/seagate-barracuda-4tb-35-5400rpm-internal-hard-drive-st4000dm005

[normal pebble]

I would prefer to stay with the same seagate brand

[sweet phoenix]

I don't know how many drives you currently have, but if you wanted to just replace instead of add these are better price/gb
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/bNCZxr/western-digital-wd-blue-8-tb-35-5640-rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd80eaaz

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/3cZFf7/seagate-ironwolf-pro-16-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st16000ne000

[normal pebble]

the baracuda not showing availability on amazon

[sweet sun]

fridge moment

[sweet phoenix]

Ah ok one sec

[sweet sun]

dont buy seagate (:

[sweet phoenix]

Does it need to be 5900rpm?

[sweet sun]

doesnt it like suck

[sweet phoenix]

Why's that?

I've no clue

[sweet sun]

im pretty sure everyone says seagate sucks

[sweet phoenix]

I've heard mixed things

At the very least they used to be good

[pliant berry]

I think they had a few models that had a history of failing

[sweet phoenix]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/6MX2FT/seagate-ironwolf-4tb-35-5900rpm-internal-hard-drive-st4000vn008

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/LKrRsY/seagate-skyhawk-surveillance-rescue-4-tb-35-5400-rpm-internal-hard-drive-st4000vx016

[sweet sun]

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-stats-q2-2019/

[dawn tiger]

that's 2019, 5 years ago

[sweet sun]

yea well i dont really think the 4tb hard drive you buy 5 years ago is different than the one you buy now

[normal pebble]

both not showing availaibility a amazon

crazy

[dawn tiger]

it is

[pliant berry]

I love how they still have hgst there

[dawn tiger]

2.92% failure rate for 2024

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-q1-2024/

[sweet sun]

ok so that just shows seagate is still the worst

[dawn tiger]

104 drive failures out of 20,00 drives

wouldn't consider that bad

the 12tb is the worst

not the 4tb

[sweet sun]

yea its not that bad but the other ones are still better

[dawn tiger]

it sfine if you don't like seagate but nothing compares to the DeathStar drives

hitach deskstars

[sweet sun]

ok...

[sinful blade]

@sweet phoenix any decent $190-200 gpu deals atm?

[dawn tiger]

holy crap

also just realized average age for the 4tb seagates was 97 months LOL

longest of all the drives listed

[sweet sun]

97 months?

[dawn tiger]

yes

ave age in months

[sweet sun]

dont hard drives last 10+ years

[dawn tiger]

most of the other drives backblaze listed avg months was ~40

[sinful blade]

8 years is 97~ months

[dawn tiger]

ye

i wouldn't call those bad drives

[sinful blade]

Ye

[sweet sun]

what if

[dawn tiger]

lots of data to consider

[sweet sun]

the hard drives arent that old

[pliant berry]

they don't necessarily last over 10 years

[sinful blade]

My seagate drive is about 7 years old by now

[elfin mural]

seagate just tends to get used the most ig

[sinful blade]

It’s gettin up there

[sweet sun]

i mean ig they dont if used 24/7 like data centers

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-gif-26931504

[sinful blade]

Theo moment

[dawn tiger]

my oneplus phone just charged from 50-100% in 15 minutes

wat

[pliant berry]

I remember when one of my server drives reported a random error

[dawn tiger]

80w fast charge amazeballs

[pliant berry]

fun times

[dawn tiger]

smart error?

[pliant berry]

I think it was a write error

[dawn tiger]

oh, gltich in the matrix

[pliant berry]

I think it was either mistaken or system instability because it was just 1 and after some changes it never came back

I should get like a 20tb backup hdd though just in case

[dawn tiger]

ive had a couple sata cables just randomly die

lose drives

new cable poof back, don't understand it

[pliant berry]

I usually end up losing sata cables before they die xD

[dawn tiger]

i still have a box somewhere

with RCA cables, phone cables and other oddball stuff

[tranquil pebble]

fr, I have a OnePlus 11

[pliant berry]

those boxes are fun, I found some interesting splitters and beepers in boxes

[dawn tiger]

beepers?

old motherboard speakers?

[dawn tiger]

got the 12 saturday and it's nuts

[pliant berry]

nah like these

[tranquil pebble]

literal Galaxy killer

[dawn tiger]

oh pagers

[proud jackal]

BEEPER

[fresh nova]

Could just buy a 4090 with that money

[pliant berry]

I like the message on this one haha

[tranquil pebble]

oh a pager

[sweet phoenix]

Refurb 7600 is $215

[pliant berry]

yeeee

[sweet phoenix]

Otherwise 6600 refurb at $150 is the only one I know of

[proud jackal]

i dont need anymore 4090

[pliant berry]

same difference xD

[fresh nova]

you can nevr have enough 4090

SLI

[pliant berry]

good sell it to me for 1 dollar

[tranquil pebble]

if I was rich I would connect exactly seven 4090s to my PC

[fresh nova]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-safe-to-upgrade-gif-26481071

[fresh nova]

If you can mine one bitcoin that's $65,000

[sweet phoenix]

I'll grab a pickaxe

[sweet sun]

its frozen

after i clicked yes

is that bad

[craggy shoal]

Just wait

[sweet sun]

ok

i really am scared :(

nothing happened (went back to usb drive screen)

oh it froze again

how do i overclock a non k chip

like what kind of motherboards can

ik some can but like how do i find if mine can

[craggy shoal]

you can't overclock a non K chip

[sweet sun]

you can

[craggy shoal]

You can't 💀

Maybe like last decade with the base clock method but not anymore

[sweet sun]

https://youtu.be/v4H6FNO7IvM?si=Toh9suTPrLjpZ2po

[craggy shoal]

this isn't 2013

[sweet sun]

you can

this video is a bad example but idc

it still proves you can

[tranquil pebble]

Overclock a Celeron

[sweet sun]

ok so the screen is still frozen

did i mess up

[tranquil pebble]

wait a few more minutes at least

[sweet sun]

k

[craggy shoal]

"How do you OC a non-K CPU"
"You can't do that"
"Yes you can" [finds a video that shows you how to do it]
okay then do it lol

Maybe I was wrong lol

[elfin mural]

all you need to do is have a z board

or some b boards

[craggy shoal]

So basically an overclockable board

[elfin mural]

yeah

[tranquil pebble]

non-k can still be bclk OCd

[dawn tiger]

bclk only tho

[elfin mural]

one with a separate clock gen is better tho

[dawn tiger]

can't tinker with other thigns

[elfin mural]

bclk is a bad way to oc

[craggy shoal]

bro who told me they "patched the base clock method"

[elfin mural]

only oc with separate clock gen

[craggy shoal]

somebody lied to me and now I sound like an annoyed knowitall

[elfin mural]

and only some boards use that iirc

[tranquil pebble]

it wasnt in 2009 when I hit 4 GHz on an i7 920 lol

[elfin mural]

bclk controls well.. the whole thing

you touch bclk, you touch pcie and ram

[sweet sun]

i have a z board

[elfin mural]

as well as sata

[sweet sun]

i have no idea how tho

[dawn tiger]

z what tho

[craggy shoal]

z

it's z

[sweet sun]

z690 prime p wifi d4

even though its a prime board its got a decent vrm

[craggy shoal]

Should be like "Overclock on non-K" or something

[velvet summit]

She z on my clock till I'm over

[sweet sun]

ill wait 4 more minutes and if its still frozen then umm

then what

this could be bad

[craggy shoal]

Restart

lol

it'll be funny

[sweet sun]

please actually suggestions

[craggy shoal]

(It actually shouldn't harm anything [at least I'd imagine])

[sinful blade]

Hmmmmmm

[elfin mural]

prime and decent vrms do not go together

[craggy shoal]

Worst case scenario you either RMA your motherboard or just get a new one

[elfin mural]

you're hallucinating if you think a prime board is any good

[velvet summit]

(maybe windows because that hates being shut down forcefully)

[sweet sun]

thats what my friend said

[dawn tiger]

don't think the z690 prime offers non k OC

[craggy shoal]

Prime P joins the chat

[sinful blade]

Prime boards are only good here

[elfin mural]

asus prime anyway

[craggy shoal]

(yeah but this is the BIOS, which is on a hardware level)

[sweet sun]

and then i searched up a review and the vrm is better than a few z690

boards

i mean the vrm is the same

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/dumping-trash-daniel-labelle-frustrated-garbage-trash-gif-27186872

[velvet summit]

(oh I missed that context)

[sweet sun]

but it has better cooling somehow

[dawn tiger]

12th gen mobo list here https://community.hwbot.org/topic/210553-intel-12th-gen-non-k-oc-capable-boards-bios-versions/

[dawn tiger]

for non k oc boards

Prime ain't there

[elfin mural]

figured

[dawn tiger]

looking at board pic

also doesn't have clock gen chip

it's missing where it should be

[elfin mural]

ya

[sweet sun]

so i canr

[craggy shoal]

You won't gain much from overclocking anymore anyways lol

[elfin mural]

clock gen chip is obligated

[dawn tiger]

cannot

[elfin mural]

for safe ocing

[craggy shoal]

Looks like my Z790-P 💀

[dawn tiger]

prime doesn't support it

[sweet sun]

yea

big sad

ok its been 4 mins

restart?

i mean thats my only other option

[dawn tiger]

just buy AMD oc all the cpu

[sweet sun]

other than waiting

[sweet sun]

im not rich enough for amd

[dawn tiger]

eh, they're not too bad

[craggy shoal]

AMD isn't that expensive lol

Sell the Intel setup and then get AMD

[sweet sun]

im not getting am4

[dawn tiger]

good

am5

[sweet sun]

well im restarting

[craggy shoal]

gotcha understandable

[sweet sun]

motor if it breaks you owe me a new kidney

[craggy shoal]

bruh 😭

[dawn tiger]

cyberpunk liver

drink all you want live forever

[pliant berry]

wtf, my pc is hanging because it can't zoom into a photo

[elfin mural]

lmao

[craggy shoal]

I have a 13700K and motherboard to go with it if you want. $300 and its yours. No DDR5 to go with it though

[sweet sun]

its alive

[craggy shoal]

ehhh

[sweet sun]

i already have a board

[craggy shoal]

I actually don't know tbh lmao

I had some issues but atp idk whether they were actually CPU-related. It might actually still be a good CPU lol. But I still like the reliability of my 7900X that I recently got

[sweet sun]

well imma try agaih

[craggy shoal]

good luck

[sweet sun]

this time on a usb2 port

[tranquil pebble]

McDonalds got Touhou hijacked

[proud jackal]

Samurai mac

[sweet sun]

it works

[craggy shoal]

nice

[sweet sun]

motor you still owe me a kidney

[craggy shoal]

:0

[sweet sun]

doesnt have to be yours tho dw

[craggy shoal]

I have lots of squirrels around me. Would a squirrel's kidney count?

[sweet sun]

has to be human

[craggy shoal]

:(

Wait I know a guy with three kidneys

[sweet sun]

same

me (soon)

[craggy shoal]

💀

[sweet sun]

it worked

my bios says stuff about blk

blvk

blck

imma try to make it work

idk

[dawn tiger]

It's a setting that ensures core ratios set beyond 70x are actually applying. It's not related to non-K OC

from a forum post

[sweet sun]

ok

well imma go

bye

nvm im NOT gonna go

now my ssd isnt being detected

why

please work

😭

[sweet sun]

i kicked it twice and it works

this just proves that violence is always the answer

[pliant berry]

I hate the lack of progress bars on ios. now I get to sit here hoping my phone is actually downloading something

[sweet sun]

is 1406520 total write cycles good enough for ram

[mental yoke]

Hello. I'm looking to trouble shoot why anytime I start up a game, the screen turns to black but I can still hear the sound. I don't think it's the video card AMD Radeon RX6700 XT. Mainly since it's only a year old, maybe a smidge more. I think it might be either the monitor or power supply? Any ideas?

[mental yoke]

I can do everything without screen blackout, like watching videos and such, but gaming has now become problematic. Even for a simple minecraft game or dome keeper.

[wind quail]

Try factory reset your drivers

[wet trellis]

i want oldegg

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-gif-27683988

[woven vale]

gm

[fervent stump]

Good morning :D

[tranquil pebble]

It got Eclipsed

[unreal trail]

PS5 is basically Vita 2.0

[craggy shoal]

Bruh I just want GT7 on PC

[tranquil pebble]

fr

[craggy shoal]

I don't care about a goofy accessories app

[paper verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLf44BXd0SE

what is john wick doing with apple

[tranquil pebble]

Corps be doing literally everything except what people want most

[craggy shoal]

I think the funniest yet most annoying thing is when they develop a game, they expect everyone to enjoy it, but it turns out to be an underperforming game that not even top-end hardware can run. But what makes it funny is when the game's community asks for it to be optimize and the devs just say "no lol"

(Yeah I’m referring to Star Field)

[tranquil pebble]

AAA games are often pretty bad lately

[mortal grail]

If they did that PS5 would have nothing

[craggy shoal]

They just gave full Dual Sense support on PC lol

[mortal grail]

Yes I love that I can now see I'm doing 60mph 60mph 60mph 50mph 40mph 60mph 50mph all at once

[granite estuary]

Hey

[unreal trail]

If Sony keeps jacking up the price of PS5, Switch 2 is gonna fly off the shelves

[velvet summit]

Or would it

I mean

There still isn't much reason to grab a ps5

They STILL barely have any titles worth grabbing the ps5 for

So even if the price of a ps5 was a steal, idk if anybody would be compelled to buy it

I'm guessing Sony is raising the prices because nobody is buying games for the ps5

So they're just losing money

My cousin has a ps5 and he just buys PS4 games from thrift stores and such lol

Sony has not made a dime yet from his ps5 purchase

Because there's just nothing worth buying for him

And it's much cheaper to buy used PS4 copies of the game

[wicked oriole]

Hey we talked about a pc build yesterday, is there anyway you could build it on microcenter for me? Lmao

[sweet phoenix]

Felix might be busy but I could

I'd need the same info you gave him tho, or the pcpartpicker list he gave you

[wicked oriole]

I'd appreciate it, I'll get the link for the one I'm looking at one sec

[wicked oriole]

He gave me this list. You don't need to put the monitor on there

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L9ddsh

[sweet phoenix]

I do just want to say

[wicked oriole]

Basically working around the 7800xd (seems like a really good processer plus intel processers are having issues rn I just read) and that graphics card seems pretty dang good. If you could factor in a xtx instead dope, would like to stay sub $1700 ish. Could budge to 1800 maybe

[sweet phoenix]

You're going to get worse value buying only from microcenter

They have some great value stuff, like the 7800x3d bundle at $500

[wicked oriole]

Is other stuff marked up heavy to take on this "bundle"

[sweet phoenix]

Not heavily

And not exactly marked up

[wicked oriole]

Labor?

[sweet phoenix]

Just some things microcenter doesn't have a super wide selection on, so some of the normally cheaper, good models aren't there

[wicked oriole]

I see

[sweet phoenix]

Like $115 for a good psu vs $95, $130 for a good ssd vs $110

Cooler selection just kinda sucks. Am5 is super easy to cool fortunately, so their cheapest coolers are fine

[wicked oriole]

Only reason I'd like micro center is 1. I don't gotta build it lol and 2. It's an hour away from me and I can just go get it then bring it home and get to gettin

[wicked oriole]

This i did notice, which Is why I'm back lol

[sweet phoenix]

Anyways one min

Lemme draft up a list

[wicked oriole]

Appreciate you so much

[sweet phoenix]

Oh can I ask what microcenter is close to you? Bundle pricing varies a bit per mc

Or just fill in whatever bundle you want in the list I link in a minute

[wicked oriole]

The guys I work with are heavily trying to push intel, but from what I read that amd processor is really nice and the graphics cards from Nvidia just aren't worth

[sweet phoenix]

Yeah intel is not the move at the moment, long story short

[wicked oriole]

Overland park ks/mo

[sweet phoenix]

Ty

Also what's the pc being used for?

[wicked oriole]

What exactly is wrong with the processors from them right now and will their "update" actually fix it?

[sweet phoenix]

Just gaming?

As a 13600k owner I'd just avoid it altogether. I can't say whether or not the update will actually fix it, I doubt intel would lie but at the same time they kind of already have lied lmao

They had a defect with the manufacturing process, an issue with the oxidation

[wicked oriole]

I think so yes. Top priority for sure. Maybe surfing the web/youtube lmao

[sweet phoenix]

Ah ok

Wasn't sure if work was anything intensive

[craggy shoal]

I mean you know, people buy a whole gaming PC just for YouTube anyways lol

[sweet phoenix]

7800x3d bundle was $500 but looks like it went up to $550

[craggy shoal]

The CPU alone is worth more than half of that

[wicked oriole]

IPad kid at heart

[sweet phoenix]

Fair

[craggy shoal]

I could've gotten a 7800X3D bundle (with memory) if I had a car. Instead I had to go through Amazon and get a 7900X and a motherboard for basically the same price (without memory)

[sweet phoenix]

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=277b4ef0-273c-4f99-b868-55d2b5e2adc1

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=277b4ef0-273c-4f99-b868-55d2b5e2adc1

[wicked oriole]

Very sick!!!

[sweet phoenix]

7900xt/7900xtx would be better value but it's your choice between the four

[wicked oriole]

Did I link you the Nvidia build?

[sweet phoenix]

Idts

You just mentioned intel and nvidia

Intel has a valid reason to avoid but idrc between nvidia and amd

[wicked oriole]

My bad, I'm dumb, would that setup handle a 7900xtx? Also what's the difference between the xt and the xtx?

[sweet phoenix]

Amd is of course better value but it's not like one of them will give out on you like an amd cpu lol

[sweet phoenix]

Lol you're good

The 7900xt about matches the 4070 ti super, and has 20gb vram. The xtx matches the 4080/4080 super, and has 24gb vram

Over 16gb isn't really needed, I doubt 20gb will be necessary before 7900xt can still keep up with new releases.

Unless targeting 4k

[wicked oriole]

I feel like Nvidia is kind of overpriced once I looked into it (cause 4090 or nothing and im not doing that lol) then it's like why bother with other Nvidia?

[sweet phoenix]

4080 super is well priced

Ti super is overpriced but still an ok choice

4070 super is also a solid choice. Any other card from nvidia tho...

Is a hard pass

[wicked oriole]

Is the 4080 better? Also do the Nvidia gpu have sometype of ai on them

[sweet phoenix]

New dlss has "ai"

It uses ai to generate frames to make it seem like you're getting higher fps

It's just a newer version of previous dlss

Amd has a similar thing, but it isn't as widely used and isn't as effective

[dawn tiger]

ah, new amd performance update out today (KB5041587)

[sweet phoenix]

Also just saying
https://www.ebay.com/itm/386886720756?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=_WbF24AfQmC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Or
https://www.ebay.com/itm/296384065250

$900 4080 and $807 7900xtx

Open box and refurb tho

[wicked oriole]

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx#selector_8

What about that?

[unreal trail]

No games is a trend with Sony starting with PS3. Nothing until later in its cycle. Same with PS4 until Bloodborne. Biggest issue is most of the games being made is a bunch of samey games with different titles. Nothing compelling. They keep promising the 4k 60 experience but never achieve it because of the graphics mandate that Sony thinks having the best looking games is the winning strategy.

That worked for a while until graphics started to all look the same. There's no WOW factor anymore and now most of the games just suck.

I have close to 150 games on my Switch, and like 8 on PS5.

[wicked oriole]

Microsoft won the chess game

[sweet phoenix]

Not the right link

[mortal grail]

@unreal trail funny you mention that
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/27/sony-raises-price-of-playstation-5-in-japan-by-19percent.html

[wicked oriole]

Oh I changed the card to a 4080 super

[sweet phoenix]

Oh alr

Change anything else or just that?

You could do a smaller ssd and add more later, if you wanted to bring it a bit cheaper

[wicked oriole]

Just that I think cause I saw one for 999

[sweet phoenix]

Pny verto oc should be $960

[unreal trail]

Why dont they just go ahead and make it straight 599?

[sweet phoenix]

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=27b93f24-25fc-4fd2-b9ea-b93dccc4b7ab

[wicked oriole]

Yeah I just saw that one other was a pny

[mortal grail]

I'm surprised this is your first question 😂

[sweet phoenix]

Same specs but cheaper
https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=27b93f24-25fc-4fd2-b9ea-b93dccc4b7ab

Specifically less storage and 100w less on the psu

[unreal trail]

If the base PS5 has an unattractive value proposition, what makes them think a PS5 Pro is gonna do any better?

what will I do with a PS5 Pro? play Kingdom Hearts 3 in 120Hz?

[mortal grail]

You say that like devs will try harder to make games run better and not cop out on the free performance

AAA is broken as an industry rn

Long hours, low experience, poor conditions

The price increase has me not considering the pro anymore

Not that I'd ever need it, but I like playing with hardware

[unreal trail]

of course they cop out on inflated specs. Devs are literally using inflated spec to make up for lack of desire to optimize

[mortal grail]

Oh this is why they did it

Dumb move sony

[unreal trail]

they just lost 10s of million on Concord

[mortal grail]

Believe that official number was 6 million

[unreal trail]

when these studios stop acting like we owe them money just because they made something, we might start getting better games

[mortal grail]

Nah

They need to stop trying to make things no one cares about

[wicked oriole]

Which one is better? The first?

[unreal trail]

This is entertainment in general right now

[mortal grail]

True

[random osprey]

nah theyre making their money back, concord dev had big brain on twitter and started hiding peoples tweets and was charging $8 to show their tweets

theyll get their money back in no time

[dawn tiger]

wat

is that real

[mortal grail]

Wow

Nuclear roast wolf wtf

[dawn tiger]

they still haven't broken 1k players ain't nothin gonna save it

[random osprey]

ye, it started off with someone trying to be positive about the release of the game and a dev responded saying the people who are hating the game are talentless freaks

[dawn tiger]

i heard about talentless freaks

[mortal grail]

Ya it was so ptsd

[dawn tiger]

not charging to see tweets though

[random osprey]

and then people started responding and the dev started hiding their tweets

[dawn tiger]

just gonna make it worse

ouch

[unreal trail]

yeah disparage the people who play games, that'll fix it all

[mortal grail]

It's not even entirely that

They released a new game in a generic genre

[unreal trail]

hero shooter

[mortal grail]

With generic layering so thick that the game has zero characteristic

[unreal trail]

like people are supposed to jump off of Overwatch for their uncharismatic cast of whatever

[dawn tiger]

it sjust a bad game

[mortal grail]

You try and walk in on a genre that's over saturated you gotta have the chops to make something better

[unreal trail]

[dawn tiger]

like the new star wars game it's not great either

[mortal grail]

Star wars games are done to death too

Another one

[dawn tiger]

ye

riding the hype train over star wars name is over

[mortal grail]

This is why games like lethal company went viral

[unreal trail]

eh

if they did the Darth Jar Jar arc in a game, it would sell

[mortal grail]

You give a new concept, barren landscape of competition

And it just runs

[unreal trail]

they just arent making anything that people care about

[mortal grail]

Think in general party games are just more widely appreciated now

Originality is pretty much non-existent these days

If you don't consider indie

[dawn tiger]

palworld and black myth enter the chat

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah ofc

Exceptions to the rule lets name a few

[dawn tiger]

ye

[mortal grail]

Baldurs gate

[dawn tiger]

ye baldurs gate

[mortal grail]

Doom eternal

Cyberpunk

[unreal trail]

making remakes while removing memorable parts of them are also smoothbrain moves

[mortal grail]

Well also, remakes don't recapture the rose tinted glasses people have over the original

[unreal trail]

mostly

[dawn tiger]

ya stepping away from canon and changing things aren't great moves

[mortal grail]

It's just all so stale really

[unreal trail]

Metroid Prime and Mario RPG were good remakes tbh

[mortal grail]

Nintendo delays releases tho

Well, mostly

[unreal trail]

marketing strategy

[mortal grail]

There was that one pokemon game

[unreal trail]

they've had Zelda games finished for years and haven't released them

[mortal grail]

Quality over quantity I totally get behind

I'd rather wait 8 years for a good sequel than 4 rushed ones

Play something else in the meantime

[unreal trail]

nah these remakes took maybe 1 year to finish

[mortal grail]

That's what I mean

They need to try harder

AAA is corrupted with bottom lines and heavy investment flow control

[dawn tiger]

then you have games like nms that come back from the ashes

unicorn tho

[mortal grail]

I'm all for games that would do this too tbh

At least nms built upon their good initial idea

[dawn tiger]

they outright lied at launch tho

[mortal grail]

It's honestly really scary to me that a game I was hyped about like 6 years ago is now considerable

[dawn tiger]

and have worked tirelessly to bring people back

[mortal grail]

They worked tho

Can't say the same about many other studios

Not to that same level of commitment

[unreal trail]

they made good on it unlike Peter Molyneux

Lionhead left Fable 3 completely busted

[mortal grail]

Look at how many studios in the last 2 years never fixed their games competently enough

There are so many fps ones

[sweet phoenix]

The two perform the same, but the first has more storage and a psu that Will handle bigger upgrades

[unreal trail]

Bamco did the bare minumum to fix Symphonia remaster

they really just didn't want to work on it lol

[wicked oriole]

It sent the same link twice

I got confused cause they're bother the same when I click on them

[mortal grail]

Had to go digging

The day before

Far cry 6

Redfall?

Earth defence force?

Steam charts is not making this easy

Saints row

That definitely was one

Returnal

Getting really hard to tell between new or old now

Putrefaction?

[sweet phoenix]

Microcenter is annoying

It's just the gf a3 750 and 1tb p31 instead of the 850 and 2tb

[mighty hazel]

Isn’t that the scam

[mortal grail]

Yes

Ok better website here we go

Saints row, redfall

Forspoken

Mw3

Atomic heart

Overwatch 2 ☠️

For some reason gollum is in this list

Payday 3 oh yeah

[dawn tiger]

oh gollum forgot about that trash

[mortal grail]

That wasn't even bad they just completely dropped the ball on launch day

[dawn tiger]

oof

[mortal grail]

Skull and bones ☠️☠️☠️

Star wars hunters

Suicide squad

Lmfaoooo

Ah I give up, google so useless these days

GPT only added alone in the dark

Then it started talking about 2021 releases

☠️

[snow lotus]

Does anyone know any dp 1.4 adapters or docks? My laptop doesn't have dp

[mortal grail]

You can do dp to hdmi

Or thunderbolt to dp

If you're thinking hdmi to dp which is what I'm guessing then no, hdmi is missing pins that DP has and it doesn't

[craggy shoal]

He doesn't have DP lol

[mortal grail]

Can convert one way not the other

[craggy shoal]

HDMI doesn't adapt to DP either unless it's powered

[mortal grail]

It can't period

However

Dp to hdmi can

The other way

[elfin mural]

so dp out, hdmi in?

[mortal grail]

Ye

[elfin mural]

huh

[mortal grail]

You need a special adaptor for it

But yeah

[craggy shoal]

Kinda goofy

[elfin mural]

i hate corsair's new fans and aio lineup

rx 120 fans

[snow lotus]

My laptop is so cooked bru

[mortal grail]

Those new max fans they have

Rs max?

Those are devent

[snow lotus]

It doesn't have dp or thunderbolt 😭

[mortal grail]

Expensive af tho

[mortal grail]

Rip

[mighty hazel]

Expensive fans

If you’re paying that much unifans are good

[mortal grail]

If you want unifans go get m12s

Hell asiahorse has unifans now

Don't spend $40 extra per fan for a daisy chain gimmick

[elfin mural]

i mean the rx 120

cheapest lineup with corsair link

[mortal grail]

Rx120 is bleh

They have corsair wording everywhere

It's so cringe

☠️

[elfin mural]

real

pirate ship link

[craggy shoal]

Bro there's no 3-pack for the M12S Unifans

[mortal grail]

Nope, only singles

[craggy shoal]

What's the point 💀

[mortal grail]

Wym

Just daisy them

[craggy shoal]

Now I have to put like 9 in my cart lol

[mortal grail]

Go buy a fan controller

Oh man

9 clicks

☠️

[craggy shoal]

Lollll

Nah but like

[dawn tiger]

daisy chain lian li knockoffs cheap lol

https://www.amazon.com/ICOLER-Infinity-Daisy-Chain-Controller-Suitable/dp/B0CK213XT4

[craggy shoal]

Why advertise them as "daisychainable" if they don't come in packs of two or more? 💀💀💀

[mortal grail]

So many brands do knockoffs now

[mortal grail]

Just buy them in singles dingus

[safe cape]

imagine pc with no fans

[craggy shoal]

Bro

ur mom

[mortal grail]

Wha bout her

[craggy shoal]

Apple

[proud jackal]

[mortal grail]

At least she can click 9 times unlike u

Smh

[safe cape]

silent and no dust 🙂

so better

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-omg-whoa-oh-my-cat-gif-19018337

[mortal grail]

Btw motor when are we sampling ur messages for newegg ai

[craggy shoal]

Bro these don't even have a reverse blade option. This goofy off brand ICOLER has that option 💀💀💀

[mortal grail]

Then get the goofy ones

[craggy shoal]

Getting the goofy ones

[mortal grail]

Better than spending 50 per for subpar 120mm perf

Crank them unifans to 30mm to make them even remotely close to other bad 120mm options

[craggy shoal]

Nah car first. I don't want to spend money

[mortal grail]

Fun fact

You can buy a car for the amount some people spend on lian li gimmicks

[craggy shoal]

💀💀💀

[mortal grail]

Ok I'll stop roasting

Lmao

[safe cape]

u need lian li fan for you car

[mortal grail]

Real

[safe cape]

rgb cooling

wait

no rgb fan in cars

why ????

[mortal grail]

Lian li unifans on ur focus radiator

[safe cape]

[craggy shoal]

My Focus isn't turbo'd lol

[mortal grail]

Alright jam 'em in the aircon then

Non st/xr5 haver

Wait I need to link you something I saw motor

[safe cape]

get some rgb wheels and rgb fans

[mortal grail]

💀

[safe cape]

fast

[craggy shoal]

This guy said XR5 lol

[craggy shoal]

Link it

Bruh I’m at work I can't watch that

[mortal grail]

Maaan

I can't leave it linked

I'll send it later then

Lolol

[craggy shoal]

DM it to me lol I'll watch it later

[mortal grail]

Wow

We're friends wait what

[mortal grail]

Jk

[craggy shoal]

Forgot why tbh

[safe cape]

get one

[craggy shoal]

Lmao

[safe cape]

for you focus

[mortal grail]

HE GOT THE UNIFAN WHEELS

[craggy shoal]

I’m dumping my Focus soon 💀

[mortal grail]

WOAG

[craggy shoal]

The infinity wheels

[safe cape]

yes rocket league is first

[mortal grail]

Sponsored by nzxt

[velvet summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866714797160792105/1278376006545182730/Snaptik.app_7407539142625758510.mp4?ex=66d093ef&is=66cf426f&hm=5dd6842c76393892ce7b349916fe84fdde8e3fc6553373b3f39de949296b949e&

[craggy shoal]

When the "web design" application you're using doesn't have the features you want so you learn HTML and CSS

[random osprey]

[dusk knot]

Trash game

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rdna4-gpus-to-feature-48-to-64mb-of-infinity-cache

[mortal grail]

8800xt3d when

[rancid juniper]

tomorrow

[dusk knot]

NVIDIA do something..

[elfin mural]

nvidia will leave the midrange dry

with 5060 that performs like 4060

and then proceed to make a 5070 with gddr6 instead of g7

[craggy shoal]

Yesterday

[clear orchid]

my computer has been "beeping" when stating up and before i thought it was normal and i didn't really care

but

now i read this and i come here because apparently its a bad problem??!??!?!!?

im not gonna just trust first google search but

thats why im here because

it beeps A LOT not like 1 time

am i cooked? it's been happening for a while and i have 0 issues with pc

[craggy shoal]

Count how many times it beeps (there may be a pattern, like one long beep and two short beeps). Google the beep pattern/code along with the make and model of your computer (or if you built the computer, look up the motherboard and its beep codes, not the make and model of the computer)

@clear orchid

[dusk knot]

Lmaooo

[copper fable]

Hey!

Do you think that for 1780$ it's worth buying a pc with this specs:

Here's the translation to English:

I9-11900KF New

• Asus RTX 3090 Tuf Gaming 24GB
• Z590 Asrock New
• 32GB Of RAM DDR4 3200MHz New
• Antec HGC 1000W PSU in excellent condition
• 1TB SSD M.2 New
• Jonsboo TK3 New
• WIN11 with a fresh licensed installation
• 10 ARGB Fans with a control remote and software

(I didn't write the specifications)
?

I would have gotten rid of the Windows 11 but I guess I can't in this case...

[mortal grail]

Not worth at all

1780 2200 **should get you 7800x3d+4080 super/XTX just for a quick comparison

Brand new

[copper fable]

Well, you didn't ask where I am from...

[mortal grail]

So that should easily answer that question

[empty tide]

Also, what is this PC for?

[copper fable]

It's sold by someone in facebook marketplace lol. I need it for gaming...

[mortal grail]

Not many places I can think of where being some 2x the US market price is meaningful

[copper fable]

2 times as much????

[mortal grail]

More or less

0.6-ish

[copper fable]

You know what

Let me try to get some parts in Amazon and I'll tell you the cost

[mortal grail]

Places that come to mind

Middle east region

[copper fable]

Yeah

[mortal grail]

Like Saudi Arabia

[copper fable]

No

[sinful blade]

Jordan?

[rancid juniper]

thoughts?

[mortal grail]

Wow thanks google

[copper fable]

Not Arab lol

[mortal grail]

India is another

Philippines as well

[copper fable]

I don't look Asian if that helps you

[mortal grail]

Those are the 3 I'd immediately expect a 2x or higher price inflate

[copper fable]

😂

[empty tide]

Why are we guessing where this person lives?

[copper fable]

I really don't know haha

[mortal grail]

Well if you aren't within 100km of any of those 3 places I'd wager that $1780 usd isn't good for that pc

[empty tide]

Well... Can you tell us?

[mortal grail]

Gotta keep things exciting

[copper fable]

Well, let's say that we have a war

[mortal grail]

Ukraine

[copper fable]

Middle East not Europe

[mortal grail]

Israel

[copper fable]

Yes

And believe me it isn't as expensive you might think

[mortal grail]

Ok I know Israel, it's not all cheap no

Near 2x however

Doesn't sound right

[copper fable]

When you compare it to other places in the world

Like Argentina for example

[mortal grail]

I've helped people there with pc's

[copper fable]

It could have just been me who found a bad deal..

[mortal grail]

Mayhaps

Let me dig my message history to see if it's a good guess

[copper fable]

I need a quick suggestion for a motherboard?

For an RTX 4080 Super

[sweet phoenix]

Mobo and gpu compatibility have nothing to do with eachother

[copper fable]

I know.

[sweet phoenix]

You could run a 4080 with an Intel core 2 duo

Then... here we are

Also I'm just saying yall

[copper fable]

I was just thinking of something that would go along with it... like high end ones

[mortal grail]

@copper fable ima say no dawg

[sweet phoenix]

Their bio is hebrew

Kinda a giveaway lol

[copper fable]

I know haha

[mortal grail]

Last pc I helped with was 4.5k for a 7950x3d, 4090 and a 34" uw

Out of Israel

[sweet phoenix]

Also Natan is hebrew, unless that's just a coincidence

[mortal grail]

If I do the numbers, xtx gets really close

About, 2.2k-ish? Instead of what I said for 1780

[copper fable]

Yes it is... who's named Natan here?

[mortal grail]

^

[copper fable]

USD 2,351.80
For this:

I randomly picked up parts so don't kill me

[mortal grail]

Yeah so I'm not that far off

[copper fable]

I already have an NVME

[mortal grail]

1780 still feels a bit expensive

But not 2x

[copper fable]

But, is it a fair price or is it to much?

[mortal grail]

I'd say it's high ball

[copper fable]

When you consider taxes and all

[mortal grail]

It feels close to new pricing

And thus

It feels a bit high

1600 I think you'd be a bit more comfortable

[copper fable]

But wait you do know I could save up some money by ordering in parts...

If I buy parts that are 75$ or less, I pay no taxes...

[mortal grail]

You could

[copper fable]

Which only leaves the RAM in this case 🤣

[mortal grail]

Ram I wouldn't pick corsair

Go silicon power or klevv or teamgroup

Something more budget friendly

[copper fable]

Ohhh wait one of those parts make me pay 38$

One of them wasn't included in the free shipping

[mortal grail]

They all resell the same stuff anyway when it comes to ram

[copper fable]

I can save up even more money by just using my existing pc parts...

For the RAM, NVME and HDD, an additional NVME...

[mortal grail]

Could

[copper fable]

I'm trying to sell my gaming laptop for 1230$

[mortal grail]

Anyway it's 3am and I got work in the morning so can't stay, we have others here who can help

[copper fable]

It's okay! good night! and thanks!

[mortal grail]

Np

[copper fable]

I'm Jewish myself so don't kick me

😭

[dusk knot]

[sweet phoenix]

"yeho natan"

thats how i read that name

also even if youre jewish please refrain from posting charicatures here

[copper fable]

Oh lol you need to read it as one word... but same meaning for me.

[sweet phoenix]

ah got it

my hebrew was never good and im now almost 6 years out of practice

[copper fable]

OK lol I do it as a joke but of course I don't want to hurt other jews/people in here...

[sweet phoenix]

it's also just against server rules

[sinful blade]

I’ve never learned another language well enough to speak it fluently

[copper fable]

In what level can you speak?

Or read/understand

[sweet phoenix]

i was only ever able to read it for the most part

[sinful blade]

The only thing I can say in a foreign language is “Je mange le petite enfant”

[sweet phoenix]

translation wise i only knew a handful of words

[copper fable]

Like myself in Russian hahaha

[sweet phoenix]

unfortuntately a lot of younger american jews don't learn the actual meanings of hebrew, but just how to read it

[dusk knot]

What the heck

[sinful blade]

It means exactly what you think

My French teacher used it as a “haha this is funny to hear, learn more weird phrases” type of thing

She was weird

[dusk knot]

Smh lol

[copper fable]

Oh that sucks... it's good to be able to read it (especially if you are religious and you read the Torah and pray) but not understanding it making it so it has no meaning,...

[copper fable]

I know it's French cause it says petite

[sinful blade]

It roughly translates to “I eat/consume small children”

[copper fable]

💀

[sinful blade]

She said it while reading a French horror story, and used it elsewhere to kinda make us laugh

[copper fable]

I'm pretty sure that even that you all agree that it was sarcastic, that she can still be suspended because of that...

[dusk knot]

Did you finish the new exotic quest yet?

[copper fable]

I just noticed something by the way