general-chat

[idle nexus]

heckers

[fair onyx]

Gigabyte tried, but it was auto de-selected at least

[idle nexus]

lol good

lol it's just tossed in the middle with a little acronym to make people think it's important

NIS

NIS GUYS INSTALL NOW PLZ

[fair onyx]

Nonsensically important software

[idle nexus]

lol damn you're using the OG 1.0 management engine

[fair onyx]

Nincompoop, Install (this) Shart

[fair onyx]

Slay

Ok, the BIOS is updating

Also, still says 64GB in bios

[idle nexus]

iirc I installed my 37 different BIOS on the Z790 Apex & at least half of them had ME updates

[fair onyx]

I love their YOU ABSOLUTE IDIOT text

[idle nexus]

like I'm not even exaggerating 37

albeit most were beta BIOS but

[fair onyx]

Wow... Fun

[idle nexus]

I kept telling myself, one more update & I'll finally POST 8800 on memory

never happened

but can't say I didn't try dammit lol

[fair onyx]

8800mhz, CL1.6k

[idle nexus]

I mean I got one DIMM to do like 11,000c87 for 2 seconds for validation but that doesn't really count for anything lol

in gear 4 nonsense

heck some golden sample CPUs could run 8800 gaming stable

I'm really hoping this BIOS update makes it run way smoother

[fair onyx]

NO

STOP IT

GIGABYTE

[idle nexus]

& since you were 7 updates behind & on 1.0 management engine, I'm fairly confident it will

[fair onyx]

I clicked cancel install and it said "no"

[idle nexus]

lol they want their $.10 or whatever they get for every confirmed install I guess

[fair onyx]

norton, I will blow you up

[idle nexus]

how Norton can still afford to pay board vendors, etc. to push that crap is beyond me

[fair onyx]

damn it

it turned XMP off again :<

[idle nexus]

the funny thing is, I think windows defender will shut up & go away if you install Norton or something like it

it was going to

[elfin mural]

https://videocardz.com/newz/next-gen-intel-and-amd-800-series-motherboards-to-feature-even-better-gpu-removal-mechanisms

[fair onyx]

but hey :3

its still 64GB

[elfin mural]

why can't this feature be in all boards

[idle nexus]

BIOS updates put it back to stock

[elfin mural]

it's literally a simple mechanism for crying out loud

[idle nexus]

Apex has that little button to remove the top x16 slot

[elfin mural]

ye

all rog boards have that

[idle nexus]

GN mentioned that some patent was preventing other companies from doing it lol

imagine licensing something that simple for like tens of millions of dollars lol

[fair onyx]

@idle nexusI'm scared... I'm gonna try loading a model 🤞😩

[elfin mural]

now they're doing it too

idk, it's to protect profits ofc lol

[idle nexus]

Godspeed lol

[elfin mural]

"nooo you can't profit off it too, wait a few years"

[fair onyx]

3D printers for 4 decades

[idle nexus]

I want a CAMM board eventually but I don't wanna pay CAMM board money for it

Arrow lake better not suck

[fair onyx]

I heard about this. CAMM2 is cheap AF, but the boards WAY more than offset the cost lmao

[idle nexus]

oh ya you gotta really throw some cash to beta test new things like that

[fair onyx]

my stomach hurts 😭

PLEASE NVIDIA

[idle nexus]

there's always some level of borking that prevents it from meeting its advertised expectations lol

[fair onyx]

I am seriously too nervous to press it

My stomach is legit cramping

Here we go I guess

[idle nexus]

ah heck just go for it. Worst outcome is you're like back where you started

but showing all 64gb of memory is definitely a step in the right direction

[fair onyx]

@idle nexusMr. Sir

[idle nexus]

ah heck bad news

?

[fair onyx]

YOU'RE MY HERO

IT LOADED

[idle nexus]

oh noice

haha

[fair onyx]

jkfgjtblW JGLJKATGL GHH

Now my stomach hurts

[tacit geode]

What was the cause

Bad oc?

[fair onyx]

BIOS more like WHYOS

[tacit geode]

Bad xmp?

[idle nexus]

now you gotta go from scared to see if it works to throw everything you got at it to try to make it fail lol

[fair onyx]

I updated my BIOS

It makes no sense that that was it

maybe something else the installer fixed was the problem

[idle nexus]

was running version F3 with 1.0 Management Engine. Newest is like F10 with 2.392099504 ME lol

[fair onyx]

IDK

[elfin mural]

makes sense when you think of it deeply

[tacit geode]

Oh

[elfin mural]

it's your pc's os

[tacit geode]

Damn

[elfin mural]

if it doesn't work right, updating it may solve everything

[fair onyx]

Yeah but like... Why would it retroactively stop working

It was fine for almost a year

[tacit geode]

Windows update

[elfin mural]

because.. at the end of the day

it's an os

and windows is another os that interacts with it

[fair onyx]

I'm blowing up Microsoft (with hugs and kisses )

[idle nexus]

eh I dunno maybe windows depends on certain features that are part of chipset/ME/BIOS to function

[elfin mural]

^

[fair onyx]

now watch it stop working in 30 seconds and I rip my hair out and family guy death pose

[tacit geode]

https://tenor.com/view/just-waitin-waitin-waiting-gif-cat-waiting-for-you-hanging-out-gif-24792583

[idle nexus]

computers are like a perpetual battle between "oh it works? let's break it" and "HA! we fixed it"

[tacit geode]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837

[fair onyx]

Here's the real test. Can it load dual GPU Magnum now

this could be bad

[idle nexus]

nah try to break it lol

get that confidence

[fair onyx]

😃

I'm so done

[elfin mural]

..oh

rip

[idle nexus]

is XMP on?

[fair onyx]

Nope

[idle nexus]

enable it & try again?

[tranquil pebble]

this weapon is pretty crazy in EDF6

[fair onyx]

Welp, there goes all my happiness. It was literally just a fluke

[idle nexus]

keep fighting gosh darnit lol

[fair onyx]

WOAH

[idle nexus]

this is my spreadsheet from my THIRD attempt to overclock bdie on 5900x

[fair onyx]

THE BIOS IS WAY DIFFERENT LMAO

Before vs after

Still detecting 64GB

[idle nexus]

lol click advanced mode

[fair onyx]

Woah, this is sooooo much smoother

The other one was like 15fps, this is 60 for sure

[fair onyx]

Ok, XMP on

Oh, should I add BAR?

Never messed with it

[idle nexus]

I think you want that for 30 series+

[fair onyx]

Dude...

[idle nexus]

what are options here?

[fair onyx]

I am so happy right now, in light of all of this still

I have VOLTAGE CONTROL NOW

I can FINALLY undervolt my damn CPU

😩

It was all grayed out before

This is a win in and of itself

[idle nexus]

BIOS updates can be exciting ngl

lmao

hence 38 of them

[fair onyx]

Auto, normal, enable fast boot, disable fast boot

[idle nexus]

it's like opening a birthday present lol

disable fast boot

make it train memory as long as it can

then later, when it starts working reliably, enable fast boot so it'll leave it alone lol

[fair onyx]

Wow, when that drop down menu goes down and the text scrolls, the BIO's goes from 60fps to 3 lmao

[idle nexus]

you might want to enable xmp then disable the rest of these so it doesn't take any liberties lol

[idle nexus]

like no, just load XMP, follow XMP, & don't try to optimize it

occasionally, board optimizations do make things better but usually, their one size fits all CPUs approach just makes an unstable mess

[fair onyx]

What about Spec Enhance then?

Waow

Crazy this is all "Easy Mode"

[idle nexus]

I would leave it all on like stock/disabled until things run normally

[fair onyx]

Oh for sure, I have absolutely no interest in overclocking my memory

[idle nexus]

then tweak it if you wanna try & squeeze more performance

[fair onyx]

I think I'm gonna DDU

[idle nexus]

the good thing now tho is, if you have voltage controls, it should be easier to stabilize memory

might as well

& run system file checker & dism

[fair onyx]

Quick reminder on how to save boot?

[idle nexus]

F10

[fair onyx]

I did the file checked and it said it found and fixed some corrupted files

[idle nexus]

oh safe boot

on win11 you can hold shift when you click restart

or you can click on start

then type msconfig

[fair onyx]

I restarted already thinking you meant you start it and press f10 to enter safe boot 😅

[idle nexus]

then in boot tab, check the safe boot box

[fair onyx]

I remember it being easier... Hmm

[idle nexus]

lol I thought you meant save settings & exit BIOS which is F10

[fair onyx]

Ahhhh lol

[idle nexus]

msconfig you just gotta remember to go back to msconfig & uncheck safe boot before DDU restarts the computer

cuz then you end up back in safe mode which is mildly annoying but doesn't matter much otherwise

[fair onyx]

Ah, I found it

Settings, security, recovery, advanced boot. And there you can select safe boot when it restarts

[idle nexus]

ah heck I should use that then

cuz I usually forget to uncheck safe boot

[fair onyx]

I knew there was an easier way

Yup, there we go

[idle nexus]

troubleshoot>startup settings

then it'll wanna restart

say yes then F4 tells it to safe boot

[fair onyx]

I miss clicked on continue lol

Gotta redo it

[idle nexus]

lol ah heck

[fair onyx]

And thanks to a certain mister, I no longer have fast boot, so the time loss here is actually consequential lol

[idle nexus]

I dunno why there's an easy cmd to restart into BIOS but you gotta do all this nonsense to safe boot

lol you can re-enable it as soon as memory starts acting right

I mean, really you can re-enable it now

[fair onyx]

Nahhhh, it's fine haha

[idle nexus]

I just like letting it take its time for memory training when you change settings

[idle nexus]

like don't rush & things seem borked when they'd be fine

advanced options

startup settings iirc

[fair onyx]

Gotcha, yeah

Ok, I'm safe booting now :3

[idle nexus]

then it'll want to restart then F4 to pick safe boot

heck if I haven't seen that darn blue screen 8 million times by now

it can be good tho

it's the transition zone from "your memory OC is not happening with these settings" to "your memory OC still isn't happening with these settings but you're getting closer so whatever you did, do some more of it"

[fair onyx]

Lol

[idle nexus]

fails less spectacularly = progress

[fair onyx]

Oh nooooo

It turns off search indexing lmaoooo

I have no idea where DDU is installed

[idle nexus]

heck maybe downloads folder somewhere?

probably just easier to go find it & try again lol

[fair onyx]

Ok, I found it. Thank goodness I am messy and just have it in downloads lol

[idle nexus]

put it on desktop or somewhere easy

[fair onyx]

Just a good ol clean and restart, right? Haven't DDU'd in a noment

*moment

[idle nexus]

lol the worst is when it's in a OneDrive folder & even tho it's always kept on the PC safe mode is like no. no one drive no

yes

there's some options like whether to forget monitor positions & what not that really don't matter much

or if you want to also uninstall integrated graphics drivers or something

[fair onyx]

It's restarting now

I should have been asleep hours ago 😭

Thanks you endlessly, again @idle nexus

You continue to be my hero, man

[idle nexus]

haha np I just want it to work

[fair onyx]

Ohhhh nooooo

Welp, it restarted DIRECTLY into a new bluescreen

[idle nexus]

what an uphill battle jeez

KMODE... I usually get that when voltage is low or memory timing is bad

[fair onyx]

Hmmm

Interesting

[idle nexus]

heckkk

[fair onyx]

Ok, I'm in windows now tho

64GB 6000mhz

[idle nexus]

hmm edge of stability I worry

it's also possible windows has been really beaten down hard at this point

[fair onyx]

Too dangerous to try and install GPU drivers?

[idle nexus]

unpacking GPU drivers is kind of intense for CPU

might as well see if it makes it thru it

[fair onyx]

WTF

[idle nexus]

if it doesn't, we might be going over the 5 voltages of craziness

SA, VDD, VDDQ, IMC VDDQ, & IMC VDD

[fair onyx]

I started NVIDIA app, it blacked for 3 seconds, now I have all three monitors up and it's saying I'm on driver 536.23 which is really old

[idle nexus]

windows update

[fair onyx]

I didn't even install

[idle nexus]

it thinks it's helping lol

[fair onyx]

And now the NVIDIA app won't start

So I have to manual download

[idle nexus]

which I mean, ig it kinda is

install latest driver & it should come with it

it's just trying to give you something so it's functional

three monitors? maybe you should run one of them off the integrated graphics GPU to make 3090's life easier lol

[fair onyx]

I actually have 4, one is a wireless Samsung tab

Oh Lord, my C drive has 800MB free

[idle nexus]

lol wow

SSDs get slower the fuller they are

[elfin mural]

might explain the crashes

[fair onyx]

I need to clean pretty soo here

[elfin mural]

might

[fair onyx]

oh no, for sure not

[elfin mural]

windows goes crazy when drive is full

[fair onyx]

I'm stupid tired. I am gonna try to load double GPU magnum one more time, and whatever the outcome is, I am gonna sleep

[idle nexus]

I've seen it slow to a crawl on gf's brother's computer

& it was at like 95% full

[fair onyx]

Oh yeah, I had a situation where I got down to like single digits free and it was badddd

alright, here goes everything

[idle nexus]

might have to move anything that isn't LLM or a program to HDD tomorrow lol

[fair onyx]

I have 3 SSD's, one is just for AI. I just need to clean my downloads off my C drive

wish me luck! 🤞

[idle nexus]

ah well if it doesn't work we can go down the voltages rabbit hole tomorrow lol

er later today technically ig

[fair onyx]

I have good news. Kinda

[idle nexus]

might wanna check gigabyte thing again to see if there are more updates now that that round installed

[fair onyx]

Actually, yes, this is good news in some way

[idle nexus]

anything that isn't bad news is good news rn lol

[fair onyx]

my 3090 loaded to the specified amount. My 3060ti got the insufficient space misalignment error this time, but I DID NOT crash

CUDA out of memory. Tried to allocate 134.00 MiB. GPU ☺ has a total capacity of 8.00 GiB of
which 4.74 GiB is free. Of the allocated memory 2.09 GiB is allocated by PyTorch, and 102.52 MiB is reserved by PyTorch
but unallocated.

[idle nexus]

I was reading in the motherboard manual

except for the top x16 slot

[fair onyx]

4.74GB free, but not enough space for 134MiB

[idle nexus]

the others run at x1 I'm pretty sure

[fair onyx]

I know

its been fine for a year

[cedar compass]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/500102940078505984/1198019706620227824/bean.gif

[fair onyx]

1x Gen 3 is fine for AI. I know many people that run it. It takes a bit to load models into memory, but then they run at full speed cause its all on GPU

[idle nexus]

x1 at 3.0 kinda bottlnecked but if it worked before then what the heck

sucks you can't like at least set it to use all the bandwidth from both slots on one of them & disable the other

[fair onyx]

ity only bottlenecks the loading speed. Once its in memory, it runs identical to full PCIE, cause its all on GPU, then the output is small, like a few hundred MB max

[idle nexus]

ah I see

[fair onyx]

I even tested this

[idle nexus]

doesn't resizable BAR help with this

I forgot what that even does exactly

at some point I remember hearing that GPUs would be able to directly access storage

"At its core, ReBAR allows the CPU to access the entire frame buffer memory of a compatible discrete GPU all at once, rather than in smaller chunks."

thanks copilot

[fair onyx]

I have tried to load the model 2 times without crashing

[idle nexus]

sounds like a step in the right direction at least

and all 64gb of memory is still present?

[fair onyx]

yeah, all 64 is here

and look, its changing

Sent to request: CUDA out of memory. Tried to allocate 1024.00 MiB. GPU ☺ has a total capacity of 8.00 GiB of
which 6.80 GiB is free. Of the allocated memory 98.31 MiB is allocated by PyTorch, and 31.69 MiB is reserved by PyTorch
but unallocated. If reserved but unallocated memory is large try setting

[idle nexus]

well we didn't win the war yet but can claim victory to a few battles at least

[fair onyx]

lmao

[idle nexus]

voltage party tomorrow ig lol

[fair onyx]

so, I have tried loading the model 5 times now, all OOM on the 3060ti (same issue the 3090 had, but it seems to be on the 3060ti now), and it hasn't crashed

let me load the big boy model I know fits barely in my 3090 and see

okaayyyy, tried to load it

and the program crashed at around 7GB, but my PC is still up

[idle nexus]

it's fighting the good fight lol

[fair onyx]

It loaded it :D

[idle nexus]

fighting it hard too lol

[fair onyx]

Ok, i am gonna call it here, and lay down

hey wait

huh...

its a good bit more efficient than normal, wow

[idle nexus]

haha good

maybe try to free up C:\ & we'll see what we can come up with tomorrow

[tranquil pebble]

I once had a laptop that had unstable RAM despite running JEDEC

[fair onyx]

@idle nexusThank you massively dude. I will take out of memory errors over blue screens any day lmao

[idle nexus]

Np hopefully u won't have to deal with either one

[paper verge]

I still dont get memory errors

i was working on my ram once

got it to 8400 with pretty tight timings

and then got a billion errors with stress testers

but i did stress test for a whole 3 hours without issue so not sure what the error indicates

[storm narwhal]

It's an amazing cpu for gaming so

No shame

[last mango]

Yes indeed

[chrome mirage]

I know a few people who bought one recently and I don't know a lot of people that build PCs

[last mango]

Real

I'm on 5800x3d and I'm happy with it

[chrome mirage]

Same

[opaque sedge]

Weathers finally getting cooler

Now i dont have to be half naked at midnight to play games somewhat comfortably with my 320w gpu next to my face

[tacit geode]

well get to sell my index

meh

[chrome mirage]

Someone was driving a forklift in the middle of the road when I was driving to work

[storm narwhal]

He is forklift certified

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cj-forklift-drift-gta-san-andreas-gif-6737047338215490055

guy on his break time be like

[storm narwhal]

Fr

[craggy shoal]

imagine being a roadie

Guys I've done the impossible. No more Recommended section

[misty sparrow]

damn, how’d you do it?

[craggy shoal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyrfCWWWTb8

[misty sparrow]

oh is that what you have open in your taskbar right now

[craggy shoal]

Yeah it's another app but it doesn't even take that much CPU utilization or RAM

[craggy shoal]

yes

[misty sparrow]

if I ever get windows 11 again im using that

[craggy shoal]

There's a bunch of other tweaks, not just for the start menu

[wary fjord]

thanks

[silk crest]

I'm using windows11 with classic shell it works fine lol

https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

[craggy shoal]

I can't stand Classic Shell

[wary fjord]

u miss the point xD

hahaa

theres more that software can offer

it literally can bring back the small taskbar xD and etc

makes 1080p bearable

becaust taskbar on 1080p is so manly

[craggy shoal]

I'm sure you can use Classic Shell alongside Windhawk though

[wary fjord]

maybe xD

so far im using powertoys for other quality of life in windows 11

xD

[silk crest]

less customization is a feature I enjoy, more customization is a hassle to me lol

I just want things to always be exactly in the same place ahaha

[craggy shoal]

I find that Classic Shell doesn't index as good as the normal Win11 start menu lol. I'd rather just clean up the start menu instead

I love customization lol

[silk crest]

idk, I found win10 to have horrible indexing. it never found anything where classic shell worked instantly

I recently got a win11 laptop and got classic shell on it and it works fine

[craggy shoal]

Windows 10 yeah bad indexing. Windows 11 is at least a little better. Still far from perfect though

[wary fjord]

i blame motor if get virus

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-26050971

[craggy shoal]

it's fine

[wary fjord]

i dont which is the best spot for small xD but i did this u have to manual set the number sad

[craggy shoal]

Bruh why so many icons lol

I actually didn't even bother with that tweak

[wary fjord]

when vscode or vstudio is up

i dont want to altab xD

i want a quick assist below

i feel ios dock will suit me well on my case i dont really use desktop icons xD i hide them

[storm narwhal]

I just disabled indexing lmao

[wary fjord]

lol vista

[dusk knot]

Gm all

[craggy shoal]

good morning JP

[unreal trail]

Unreal Engine

[wary fjord]

i think this one is pogger

each one has its own space and boxes

[wary fjord]

hop on krunker

[dusk knot]

I'm on the road 😔

[dusk knot]

Gm, motor

[wary fjord]

deym

[dusk knot]

There's always time, tomie

[craggy shoal]

Bruh what's krunker

[wary fjord]

hahaha its sounds like sore

but its a game

xD

u play against other discord users.. u can see their real discord ign if u are friends with them xD

[craggy shoal]

Oh yes. Full AMS for this little guy

[dusk knot]

Ah

[craggy shoal]

Yo that's actually cool

[high star]

I had a dream hast night about risk of rain 2

Should I buy it

[mental yoke]

Yeah.

[high star]

It was so weird I’ve never played the game or watched gameplay my brain just kinda hallucinated a game

[craggy shoal]

The bots are getting more advanced. Saying "Yeah." instead of "gm" is a big step in bot development

[misty sparrow]

Yeah.

[craggy shoal]

:0

[misty sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/942378397030555729/954141556976263249/democonga.gif

[tacit geode]

gm

[mighty hazel]

❓

[craggy shoal]

Part of me thinks it's an AI somebody is training lol

So they just slap it into a Discord server where everybody is talking and they try to make a LLM out of the server's conversation

[misty sparrow]

Okay.

[oak gale]

idk if i can

connect the

anntena cables on my laptop

they got cut around the hinge

its really akward area

[mighty hazel]

Probably. There were scraper bots in servers before

That just collected messages 💀

[oak gale]

should i get one of these 😭😭

by these i mean not the usb ones

if i get the usb ones i will need to get a usb hub or something i don't have enough ports

how do these antenas work exactly

will it be possible to salvage them from an old router or something

[craggy shoal]

This guy broke his pigtails lmao

[icy ore]

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1826762047293718900

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

‘THE CROW’ debuts with 6% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Read our review: https://t.co/rINgx9VQDN

Twitter · Aug 22, 2024, 11:23 PM

[tacit geode]

yeah

[dusk knot]

6 percent lmaooo

I thought it wouldn’t be go lower than the acolyte

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/spHCYPXvibk?si=uZfdfBD2zHGDFTdS

[tacit geode]

yeah

[safe cape]

price ?

[frosty sinew]

uhhhh i see opportunitie here

[unreal trail]

preordering a digital only game

[rancid juniper]

Big money

[craggy shoal]

I lowkey could use an AI PC lol

Use it as a LLM server obviously

[paper verge]

https://llm.extractum.io/gpu-hostings/

check those links

"GPU Hosting with API for LLM Inference"

btw that infinite scroll on the basilik is really cool

[craggy shoal]

oh my gosh no

non-self-hosting platforms 💀

"Just pay the monthly subscription" LMAOO

[paper verge]

what

[velvet summit]

what cpu even is that lmao

also they say ryzen 5 and it's a ryzen 7 box

💀

[craggy shoal]

Talking about this section 😭

[tacit geode]

yeah

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-coffee-bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-gif-bocchi-funny-gif-27325558

Another day another penny

[tranquil pebble]

Another day another EDF6 alien exploded across the map

[frosty sinew]

yeah

[craggy shoal]

yeah

[proud jackal]

Hah

I'll be bach

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-fran-healy-the-joke-joke-dont-get-the-joke-gif-27533376

[dusk knot]

Hahahahhah

[candid kelp]

im using a USB rn and im getting one for the mobo tonight'

but like my wifi plan was 300mbs down my roomate is getting 200 on his laptop and im getting 100 on my usb

[rancid juniper]

i remember having a usb wifi stick for my old desktop but i think it got fried

actually no, it broke like lego

somehow

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/TjxMSUSk7y4?si=Txb29wN9Su782nO3

[chrome mirage]

I just realized a cashier that I've seen at a store for 3 years is someone I worked with before.

[craggy shoal]

I've been riding my bike around my neighborhood and I've seen people who graduated high school after me and it makes me wonder what they're even doing five years later lol

[silk crest]

What is a great price/quality storage for like 40-50$ ?

I have a music mixer that supports USB storage, any drive works

[craggy shoal]

I read that as "what's a great price for $40-50?"

[mental yoke]

?

[craggy shoal]

Bots are getting super intelligent fr

Even replying to people. Crazy

[random osprey]

bovid has done irreparable damage to gaming 💀 ****

[rancid juniper]

._.

[random osprey]

theres still a crap ton of people on ps4's because they couldnt get a ps5 and just gave up

[sweet phoenix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hQ4BD3/sabrent-rocket-q4-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sb-rktq4-1tb

Any cheaper and you'd get half the storage
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WcJgXL/teamgroup-mp44l-500-gb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpk500g0c101

[rancid juniper]

and also the fact that there are still games being released on the PS4

[random osprey]

forgor when i saw it but apparently there like just over half of the playstation playerbase is still on ps4

[tacit geode]

yeah

[rancid juniper]

PS5 Pro's RT, i wonder if it will be any good

[tacit geode]

yeah

[rancid juniper]

we have yet to see AMD's uh RDNA 3.5 DGPUS?

[tranquil pebble]

imagine an x3d APU

[rancid juniper]

i dont think thats possible and even if it is, imagine the steep price

would be insane tho

[tranquil pebble]

it would be possible but there would likely not be able to have more than 8 cores at max

[rancid juniper]

ye

[tranquil pebble]

I want to see an APU Threadripper

[craggy shoal]

yes

[last mango]

tv broke again

lol

[tranquil pebble]

APU being fed 8 channel RAM would go hard

even if a bit cursed

[rancid juniper]

strix halo

[safe cape]

not worth it

[rancid juniper]

a 40cu apu still sounds crazy to wrap my head around

[tranquil pebble]

most of the CUs will be starved of memory bandwidth

[rancid juniper]

ik that but look how many CUs the HX 370 has

literally over double that

i think the solution to strix halo is CAMM memory

[tranquil pebble]

it probably won't have too much of a performance boost. I'd be happy to be proven wrong

[safe cape]

slow

[rancid juniper]

bandwidth starved

honestly decent for an igpu

[tranquil pebble]

exactly why I think throwing more CUs at it won't help much

[rancid juniper]

well idk making ram faster would be more $$$$$

idk about quad channel

[tranquil pebble]

If it does work then great but I'm not holding my breath

[tranquil pebble]

you would double the number of IMCs in the CPU

idk how expensive those are

[rancid juniper]

about to make it thicc

[tranquil pebble]

my current CPU has 8 of them lol

every DIMM gets its own channel to itself

[rancid juniper]

too much

[grand kernel]

think the market for a genuinely high performance APU is too small to make it worth developing

[rancid juniper]

RDNA 3.5 better have a $500 limit

[grand kernel]

you're looking for a console basically

[rancid juniper]

well yea

ig

but the pc experience tho

[grand kernel]

and the console chips are heavily subsidized

[tranquil pebble]

imagine GDDR6 CAMMs

[grand kernel]

so who's gonna pay $1000+ for an APU build

[rancid juniper]

...

[grand kernel]

I mean the consoles literally are high power apus with "8 channel" gddr6

[rancid juniper]

is CAMM even out yet? i guess its still exclusive to dell

bruh

[tranquil pebble]

Dell can go heck itself if it is hogging it

that will literally kill the tech

[rancid juniper]

8 channel console is wild

[grand kernel]

pretty sure dell isn't hogging it it just hasn't been adopted by anyone else

[grand kernel]

they made it an open standard

[rancid juniper]

then thats goofy

[grand kernel]

that's the opposite of hogging it

[rancid juniper]

have you've seen articles of nvidia making the RTX 4070 slower with GDDR6?

same price is CRAZY

[grand kernel]

this is nothing new for nvidia is it

[safe cape]

yeah why pay 1000$ when you can build this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLHlXFRTfOk

[rancid juniper]

and honestly why pay 4070 when the 4070s is just 50 bucks more

._.

[safe cape]

similar size

[craggy shoal]

I need a tiny PC in my life

[safe cape]

or one with 4060 under 1000 $

[rancid juniper]

people probably prefer lower power

thats one way to look at apu pcs

[grand kernel]

nvidia are the kings of shady stuff

[rancid juniper]

and will continue it until the end of time

ig

[grand kernel]

I mean you could definitely push a high performance APU to use a lot of power

[safe cape]

people want mini and silent pc

[grand kernel]

and you could definitely power limit the heck out of that 4070ti to make it very efficient

[safe cape]

not a lot of people care about power

[rancid juniper]

wow

☠️

[grand kernel]

I mean just look at what you're doing with your 13600k right

[safe cape]

my opinion

[grand kernel]

same deal

[rancid juniper]

fair

[grand kernel]

nothing is stopping an APU from drawing 400 watts

if that's what it's designed for

[rancid juniper]

ok 400 seems like a reach LMFAO

maybe at best 250

[grand kernel]

ps5 draws 200 in gaming

and that's quite power limited

[rancid juniper]

APU turns into APR (Accelerated Processing Reactor)

lmfao

[grand kernel]

I'm saying if you really wanted to design a crazy APU

you could push it beyond 400 watts for sure

[safe cape]

in phones and gaming handheld maybe

[rancid juniper]

heh likely

[safe cape]

but pc no

[grand kernel]

atp you're just putting a desktop cpu and gpu on the same package for giggles

[rancid juniper]

i was so excited to see snapdragon doing well on windows but was bummed

it would be nice to have great batt life/perf

but eh arm can't do x86 instructions well

[grand kernel]

that's already what the consoles are doing but they're really power limited

ps5 and xsx have really low gpu clocks

[rancid juniper]

even with the low clocks its impressive how well it can run games

[safe cape]

@rancid juniper big problem is moneyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[rancid juniper]

at nice visual fidelity

[grand kernel]

ps5 has 36 cu at 2233mhz, xsx has 52 cu at 1825mhz

[rancid juniper]

money is the source of every problem fr

[rancid juniper]

bruh

[grand kernel]

rx 6700 has 36 cu at like 3000mhz

[rancid juniper]

RX 6700 anemia

i hope the ps5 pro doesn't match my 7800xt

i wont feel good if it does

[grand kernel]

slap a desktop 7900xtx onto an apu with the same power limit why not

lol

[rancid juniper]

fire

[mental yoke]

Hey guys

Can someone help me with a 32 inch, 27 inch and 39 inch setup?

I’m removing one of my 27 inch monitors

[grand kernel]

we definitely have the capability to make something like that just not the economic motivation

[rancid juniper]

how big an apu can get if you use idk HBM or GDDR memory in it

actually would HBM even work?

[mental yoke]

Please.

[rancid juniper]

ok

[craggy shoal]

ok

[grand kernel]

yeah hbm would work

there's already been apu with hbm I think

[rancid juniper]

is it that intel combo?

4 years later....

[grand kernel]

yeah

i7-8809g

[rancid juniper]

😂

[grand kernel]

4gb hbm2

[rancid juniper]

its a gpu at this point

this thing looks almost similar to my i5-1135g7

[craggy shoal]

inb4 we get GDDR slots directly on the motherboard

[rancid juniper]

the mobo IS THE GPU

[craggy shoal]

"Yeah I have a computer but the GPU is the whole build lmao"

"Discrete GPU? What's that?"

[rancid juniper]

lol

home desktop motherboards in 2030:

[mental yoke]

Help me

[craggy shoal]

dude

don't ping me wtf

[mental yoke]

What is your problem?

Whoops

Did it again

[misty sparrow]

Some people don’t like being pinged lmao

[mental yoke]

You can turn it off

Sensitive

[misty sparrow]

What if you want to see pings from only certain people here though

[mental yoke]

People act so weird online.

It’s crazy

Yet are so quiet IRL.

[misty sparrow]

People act weirdly when I spam call them 24 times in a row, it’s crazy

[mental yoke]

No bro. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!

call them 24 more times.

Two wrongs make a right.

[craggy shoal]

You can also not ping the guy who doesn't want to help 💀

[misty sparrow]

@ motor

[craggy shoal]

I'm not helping lmao. I already work in IT

[craggy shoal]

ur mom

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-tf2spy-no-mother-team-fortress2-gif-22434453

[mental yoke]

I got out of IT and now I make more money and have more sanity

Is this better sir/ma’am?

[craggy shoal]

ok lol

But you can't solve your own tech issue lol

[mental yoke]

No

[craggy shoal]

lmao

[mental yoke]

Of fuking course I can’t.

The fek I look like

[craggy shoal]

@dusk knot swear detection avoidance (twice now)

lol

[mental yoke]

What is your problem?

[mighty hazel]

I thought you were a bot. Wanted to check

[mental yoke]

Grow up

Damn

[mighty hazel]

HA

[craggy shoal]

"Okay I'll ask someone else" ❌
(Make a big deal out of it) ✅

[mental yoke]

God so sensitive.

[craggy shoal]

Sound like my mother lol

[mental yoke]

Master? More like slave.

[craggy shoal]

woah bro

that's a bit much lol

[mental yoke]

Your name has master in it.

Offensive

But you aren’t that.

[craggy shoal]

my name: motor
How this guy reads it: master

[mental yoke]

Look at your title.

[craggy shoal]

my role? I didn't make it lol

[mental yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-ass-smh-dumb-gif-14624456

Someone should put some oil in you @craggy shoal

You are acting up

[craggy shoal]

AYOO CHILL 😭

💀💀💀

[mental yoke]

Your pistons are all out of wack

https://tenor.com/view/propeller-plane-piston-wtf-interesting-gif-10781414

[hoary zodiac]

Gentlemen

[mental yoke]

And ladies.

[mighty hazel]

Was that a bot again 💀

They’re everywhere lmao

[hoary zodiac]

Probably

[mental yoke]

Ladies bring @craggy shoal

[craggy shoal]

nah he doesn't know he doesn't have embed perms

[mighty hazel]

Oh

[dawn tiger]

what motor said

[hoary zodiac]

Oh look a genuine new user

Hello

[dawn tiger]

ayo

[hoary zodiac]

What's up

[dawn tiger]

well, apparently someone has a problem

but I don't think it's who they think it is

[craggy shoal]

rare for a new person to send more than two messages and actually react to what we're saying lmao

[mental yoke]

ROFL.

[dawn tiger]

its friday and im off early

[hoary zodiac]

Saturday here

I'm from the future

[mental yoke]

It Friday and I’m still working.

[dawn tiger]

time traveler up in here

[mental yoke]

We are backed up

[craggy shoal]

Time travelers fr

[mental yoke]

Yeah

Word.

Time traveler

Yeah yeah

[dawn tiger]

really wish evga still made gpus

[cursive oasis]

Are OLED monitors worth the money, I've been thinking of getting one

[craggy shoal]

Yeah just wait until they're on sale

[dawn tiger]

asked to buy pads for them for a 3 year old gpu and they juhst sent them for free

[hoary zodiac]

How much is it?

[cursive oasis]

Not a specific one, just been thinking about getting one

[hoary zodiac]

Hmm

Refresh rate?

[cursive oasis]

Same as mine, 240hz

[hoary zodiac]

Generally high refresh rate OLEDs are quite expensive

[dawn tiger]

does oled even have that high refresh rate yet?

[north crescent]

Pretty subjective question. Depends on content you view, how casual you are at viewing it, and how much you care.

[hoary zodiac]

But they make IPS look washed out in my opinion

But yeah it is very subjective

[craggy shoal]

yes

[dawn tiger]

huh

[hoary zodiac]

I'd go to a shop to compare monitors

[cursive oasis]

I want my video games to look GOOD.

[dawn tiger]

probably what $1,000?

[craggy shoal]

probably

I need a new monitor I'm starting to realize

[mental yoke]

This is beautiful

[dawn tiger]

holy https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-aorus-fo32u2-32-uhd-240-hz-qd-oled/p/N82E16824012081?item=N82E16824012081

[mental yoke]

Look at that.

[dawn tiger]

$1100

[mental yoke]

That’s normal

[north crescent]

Even expensive OLED is like $700 - $900. Cheap OLED is like $400 - $500 iirc.

[craggy shoal]

Bro that looks amazing why would you change that

[mental yoke]

My LG 4k 32 inch cost 1400

[dawn tiger]

ill stick with my 27" ips

[hoary zodiac]

Does cheap OLED run the risk of burning out tho

[mental yoke]

It ain’t mine.

[north crescent]

All do just about the same

[hoary zodiac]

hmmm

[mental yoke]

I just don’t have room for 4 monitors.

[cursive oasis]

I'd like 4k and OLED, with 120hz minimum

[mental yoke]

My 32 inch and 39 inch or oled.

My two 27 inches are ups

Ips

[hoary zodiac]

Dual 1080p IPS 😎

[mental yoke]

I need to setup my 39 inch but my desk is running out of room so I need to get rid of one 27 inch.

[hoary zodiac]

19"

[mental yoke]

Dual 1440p

[cursive oasis]

I got a single 1440p

[hoary zodiac]

I miss 1440p tbh

[mental yoke]

My desk that was off centered that I spent 400 dollars for got refunded. So I’m keeping it.

Those foreign people tried to give me a 20% refund.

[craggy shoal]

Might get another 1440p panel but one that doesn't have goofy color banding like the one I currently have

[mental yoke]

Cheap asses.

[north crescent]

WOLED is theoretically better at burn in compared to say QD-OLED, but no real proof of that yet (not enough time for testing). It's also generally cheaper than QD-OLED. Tho it's worse quality. So theoretically speaking some cheaper OLEDs are better at burn in that more expensive ones.

[mental yoke]

So I’m trying not to buy a new desk and work with what I have.

[hoary zodiac]

What are compared to IPS?

Would cheap OLED be a good alternative to higher end IPS?

For say 144Hz?

[cursive oasis]

I've seen a lot of people on Facebook marketplace with burn in OLED tvs, is burn in a huge problem with it?

[hoary zodiac]

Depends on how they use it

[north crescent]

High end IPS is still quite a bit cheaper than cheap OLED, so it isnt really an "alternative"

[hoary zodiac]

oh damn

[craggy shoal]

Cheap OLEDs probably would have a lot of burn-in

[hoary zodiac]

Thinking of getting an actual monitor soon

[north crescent]

Used OLEDs sure, but OLEDs of X screen size are usually going to burn in all the same (mainly depends on OLED type and burn in protection features).

[hoary zodiac]

To replace my 1080p displays

Maybe like a ultrawide

But then again sometimes games don't like ultrawides

[craggy shoal]

I'm probably still gonna get another 1440p 170Hz IPS (just something with a higher color depth because I've only just now noticed how bad 8-bits is 💀)

[hoary zodiac]

It is tricky tho since

I only have one display output

Don't know how well the USB-C works

But HDMI is the only one that works reliably

Might be a bad cable

Do you need a specific cable to connect a USB-C display?

Or rather connect a display with an USB-C to DP/HDMI adapter

[proud jackal]

Get my monitor

[north crescent]

You do content creation or gaming? If gaming, Im pretty sure you can just enable dithering. 8b+dithering (properly) gets pretty close to 10b quality.

[craggy shoal]

Yeah give it to me lmao

[proud jackal]

[mental yoke]

Yes.

[north crescent]

Unless you get one of those super cheap cables that only deliver power and not data, pretty sure any cable should be fine.

[craggy shoal]

via RegEdit, right?

[mental yoke]

I think imma try to place the 39 inch here since i should be able to fit it on this part of the L

But first o need to do some work.

[craggy shoal]

I'd imagine this 39" would be a massive 32:9 or 21:9 monitor, right?

[mental yoke]

Yes

It’s 35 inches across so it will barely fit

I will still love my 32 inch 4k oled for gaming but want to see how the 39 inch looks and my productivity will work for work.

As it will be kind of a standalone monitor for my work laptop and MacBook Pro.

And connect it to my main PC at times to game depending on how it looks

[craggy shoal]

Doesn't help much lol

[dusk knot]

You can't swerve around the bot. Please stop 🛑

Thank you

[sinful blade]

Yw

[mental yoke]

He was talking to me!

[north crescent]

Pretty sure by a program usually, for changing these kinds of display timings and more

Dont recall what it is now (img was just NVCP custom resolution)

[craggy shoal]

I'm not seeing a setting for dithering in there

I have the window open now and not seeing it lol

[north crescent]

As I said, it's in a more advanced program than NVCP custom resolution

Could be CRU, dont really remember

[craggy shoal]

My screen no longer has a signal 💀💀

Just found out about CRU and running restart.exe lol

@north crescent does it normally take a while for restart.exe to run?

Fixed it lol

[north crescent]

iirc running it without any parameters has a default one minute timeout before restarting

[craggy shoal]

I ran it because I was messing with Nvidia Custom Resolution. My monitor didn’t like the settings lolll

[mental yoke]

Maybe I can do this.

With the two 27s on the side.

[proud jackal]

That will hurt your neck

[mental yoke]

I’m running out of ideas.

Yeah that’s the only thing I don’t like about stacked setups.

I might still need to get the countertop setup and make a L

[sinful blade]

That’s what I did

Makes it much easier to deal with

[mental yoke]

78 inch X 78 inch L is gonna be large.

But plenty of space.

And a lot better than this cheap Vietnamese setup that had no QA

I’ll put this 39 inch on my L and see how it looks.

[mental yoke]

I want to reuse the legs but not sure if the lifting machismo will hold it because I will still need a third leg

[tacit geode]

clearly he doesnt need to stare it at all the time

[proud jackal]

[velvet summit]

Considering that premiere pro is on that top monitors
It would

[tacit geode]

oh

i didnt notice it

i thought that was streaming software

then

[velvet summit]

NGL I thought it was obs as well at first glance

[tacit geode]

yeah its neck hurty

[craggy shoal]

Reclining chairs exist

[sinful blade]

I wish fiancé’s pc had a better cpu cooler
It’s sitting at 52c on desktop

[velvet summit]

Kinda hard to recline while editing videos though

[sinful blade]

:/

[velvet summit]

Might be just me

[velvet summit]

I mean
Idle temps don't matter

[sinful blade]

Gpu is at 32c

[sinful blade]

Ik, but stock cooler just suuuuucks

[rancid juniper]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxxADoCAE-28tahdkbNuK_WeXzmfyFnnWc?si=i9UXxvSyEjfjMmQX

[velvet summit]

Idle temps depend on what your fan curve is

Also honestly I just turn off my cpu cooler fan at 50c lmao

It only kicks in at like 60

[craggy shoal]

Bruh fr

Like why is that not normal 💀

[sinful blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rnLTxH

She’s runnin this

[velvet summit]

People really be thinking that PC's will get heat stroke at 60 frfr

[craggy shoal]

GPUs can have a zero-fan mode. They’re normally hotter than CPUs. Why is it weird to have a zero-fan mode for CPUs? lol

[sinful blade]

Her pc starts too fast for me to go into bios

[hoary zodiac]

Spam del

[sinful blade]

Finally got it

CPU fan is flaying rn at 2100 rpm

[craggy shoal]

This guy forgot that Fast Startup should stay disabled

[sinful blade]

She doesn’t know tech stuff so if in the rare chance I need to do something, I just restart it once or twice

[tranquil pebble]

I kinda want to put a 16,000 RPM fan in my next build for lulz

[sinful blade]

I’m just gonna grab a cheap ID cooling single tower for a budget build

[tacit geode]

my baby is 1 week old now

😄

[craggy shoal]

Get that mf on a sim rig asap. Project Hamilton

[proud jackal]

Leave me alone spotify

[craggy shoal]

You'll be rich by the time he's 19 lolll

[tacit geode]

teach her to be the best sim racer out there

[craggy shoal]

Do it

[last mango]

speaking of sim racing

anyone watch GT movie?

[tranquil pebble]

no and I dont plan on it

[tranquil pebble]

its probably cheesy as heck

[last mango]

it was based on true story

[tranquil pebble]

based on true story means very little

literally just marketing fluff

[last mango]

I see

[tranquil pebble]

it doesnt tell you how much basis it has in that story either

[last mango]

but in the end of the GT movie they showed actual photos potraying the actual driver and then actor filmed in the movie

[tranquil pebble]

its like juice that says made WITH real fruit juice...

[last mango]

I get your point, it's valid.

[tranquil pebble]

not saying the GT movie is bad, but these general types of movies often are

[last mango]

Gotcha

[tranquil pebble]

You learn to be really skeptical when you are surrounded by the kind of food labeling America has

lying by omission would not be stretching it

[last mango]

Yeah you hit the nail

[last mango]

lol cute

[opaque sedge]

Man the valkyrie fights in god of war are basically souls bosses

I had to make a cheese magic beam build for the last one

Sigurnd

[unreal trail]

big monke game

[fervent stump]

🥰

[craggy shoal]

ew

[fervent stump]

😡

Nzxt fans = happiness

[fervent stump]

^^

[craggy shoal]

ew is fr

tbh

[tranquil pebble]

Anyone know a decent external BD-XL burner?

[fervent stump]

No!

[fervent stump]

The ^^ was pointing to what I said

[craggy shoal]

^^ means "yeah this fr"

[misty sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/331316693941092362/922678384562151424/073C8BBB-4AD3-4D70-A9A5-2B293FEC221A.gif

[craggy shoal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjQOXhKDPN4

[safe cape]

this is cool

[icy ore]

[last mango]

CONTRABAND CPU COOLER?!

BAN.

tempted to get the electric screwdriver but i have a cheap huge screwdriver kit

to almost open anything

including iphones with properity bits

[silver sparrow]

do yall think philidelphia is relevant?

[mortal grail]

What's that

[mortal grail]

Are you dead tired yet

[silver sparrow]

its a city

[mortal grail]

[silver sparrow]

you answered my question just by asking this though

[mortal grail]

Ya you get it

[tacit geode]

nope

she sleeps during night

and wide awake during day

[mortal grail]

Wow, you got a quiet one??

[tacit geode]

shes cranky sometimes

[mortal grail]

Well, congrats tho man

Big day

Hopefully she stays sleeping 💀

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/877963606313025556/1276655800852545586/angry_birds.mp4?ex=66ca51de&is=66c9005e&hm=a577b43d332d95c7d94945b5861a34187202779293923c158b7dee5e054a1e15&

[obsidian berry]

💀

everyone just turned their head slowly like noting happened

[dusk knot]

Holy....

I think he's dead

[mortal grail]

They turned and laughed so I think he landed in the backseat just fine

[tacit geode]

nope

they did a 3rd person view

it was actually funny

https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/17xd9hu/smashing_through_a_bus_windshield_stunt/

if it was real

there would be a closed back

[tacit geode]

here above

[mortal grail]

Sadge

Crazy stunt but I thought it wasn't scripted

[tacit geode]

sorry i ruined your day

[dusk knot]

Oh. It was a stunt lololol

[mortal grail]

Ima go play angry birds now

[tacit geode]

ive seen this video too much

[tacit geode]

https://images.morrenus.xyz/reku3/DOsiXIqE00.png

i got bored

so im running rct1 in a pc emulator

thats emulating a pentium 2 with voodoo 3 3000

128mb ram

86box is the emulator

It's nice

[last mango]

Is purple man here to take you away

https://tenor.com/view/twerking-purple-thing-purpleguy-twerk-twerking-purple-guy-gif-25863430

[tranquil pebble]

that was one of my favorite games as a kid

FYI you can run that game on modern systems with OpenRCT

[tacit geode]

im well aware

i made a few plugins

[tranquil pebble]

oh nice

[tacit geode]

which have been since depreciated tho

due to api changes and people making plugins that do what i did

[tranquil pebble]

Wonder if 86box can do NEC PC98

[tacit geode]

what year is that from

[tranquil pebble]

1982 to 2000

[tacit geode]

doesnt look like thay have it

https://github.com/86Box/roms @tranquil pebble here

thats the list of roms taht are supported

[tranquil pebble]

looked into it more and they are planning to add support for that but it isnt there yet

[tacit geode]

either way its good

i like using it

[tranquil pebble]

ew

SSDs above 4 TBs are terrible value rn, but this is gross even by those standards

[mortal grail]

8TB
Sony

Ya but I can see why tbf lol

[tranquil pebble]

PS5 doesnt even need licensed drives, just any PCIe 4.0 NVMe

[lone mango]

Yeah but it has the license

[dusk knot]

Not for the rich amongst us