general-chat

[fervent stump]

I drove my moms car once in a empty parking lot

[velvet summit]

Speaking of a dodge charger, I just passed by one

[craggy shoal]

I’m tempted to get my sim rig out rn just to practice taking apexes

[mighty hazel]

Bro don’t text and drive 💀

[velvet summit]

I'm in the passenger seat

Lmfao

[mighty hazel]

Oh

LOL

[craggy shoal]

Bruh fr. Especially if it's just Discord 💀

[mighty hazel]

💀

[velvet summit]

💀

[craggy shoal]

💀

[fervent stump]

I wanna get my wheel and computer soon I wanna drive

[mighty hazel]

I’ve seen people using tiktok while driving lmao

It’s wild

[velvet summit]

What

😭

[craggy shoal]

They just have a video of subway surfer probably

[fervent stump]

I’ll be back guys I’m going to eat

Byeee

[mighty hazel]

💀💀

real

[rancid juniper]

cringe levels are unreal

[velvet summit]

also i can barely text and drive in a sim rig with no other cars around 😭

i would DIE if i texted and drove irl

[rancid juniper]

i never really understood picking up your phone while driving

id just stay 200% focused on the road

nothing else

[velvet summit]

"man, driving is so boring, i wish it was more fun"

[rancid juniper]

☠️

[keen shale]

No sims, do apexes for real

[craggy shoal]

That’s sick bro

Do you still race?

[keen shale]

No, moved on to other hobbies. Raced for 10 years tho

[rancid juniper]

when you pull up your phone while driving:

https://tenor.com/view/burnout-burnout-paradise-burnout-crash-burnout-slowmotion-racing-game-crash-gif-12190574500013726301

[craggy shoal]

Bruh I need to change my PC's name now

[rancid juniper]

lel

[velvet summit]

wrecked

[rancid juniper]

wrecked
totaled
carfumbled
crunched

[velvet summit]

i just realized that i have the wrong headphones on

[rancid juniper]

TIKTOK'D

[mortal grail]

Crashpilled

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[last mango]

saw gas conversion

my scooter fuel economy go brrrrrrrrrr

100 miles to one gallon of pure dinosaur juice

[velvet summit]

hear me out

turbocharged scooter

[last mango]

that would be insane lol

[fervent stump]

Me back

https://tenor.com/view/crashing-suzuki-how-to-park-gsxr-parking-gixxer-caring-for-gixxer-gixxer-gif-22826611

Is there a way to get a motorcycle handles for a racing bike game?

I love motorcycles

[tranquil pebble]

BeamNG'd

[rancid juniper]

💯

[rough zinc]

What you dont scroll through insta reels while driving?

How am I supposed to pay attention then?

[pseudo raven]

yall dont use both at the same time? while driving?

[rough zinc]

Yeah I dont see how you can drive without both

The American driving education system has failed so many generations

[last mango]

O r a n g e

[rough zinc]

Give it to the PC, it looks thirsty

[last mango]

Ight

Uh its flickering red

What I do now

[rough zinc]

Send vid

[last mango]

Did I give it wrong drink?

[rough zinc]

Orange should work, milk is ideal tho

[last mango]

Bet BRB

Uh pc went out

House power went out also

[rough zinc]

Skill issue

[last mango]

Darned storms!

Hmm I smell burnt cheese

[pseudo raven]

people are bad drivers intentionally

you have to drive fairly well during the driving test to pass

but once thats over theres no reason

[rough zinc]

Id disagree, you can get so many points off and still pass the exam

Like its i think around 30 or so points

[last mango]

Are we talking about states

[rough zinc]

And theres also only so much you can test on a 5 minute exam

[pseudo raven]

14

and the test is like 15 minutes long

[rough zinc]

Ahh NY is 30 points and 5-10 minutes

[pseudo raven]

oh what

yeah its differnet by state

was talking about ca

[rough zinc]

Ca makes sense because they hate people driving lol

[pseudo raven]

surely they have like critical errors and everything on the tes ttoo

[pliant berry]

they probably score differently

[rough zinc]

This is the NY state form lmao

[pliant berry]

I remember on my test I got 10-15 points for something very minor

[tranquil pebble]

Poor use of gears: automatic... bruh what?

[rough zinc]

Some people actually use "manual mode" in their automatic cars lmao

[tranquil pebble]

doing that on a road test is foolish

[last mango]

Annual drive test exams for everybody would dwindle so many idiots on roads

[rough zinc]

Id say every 5-10 years

Every year would make it horrible going through the DMV and trying to schedule an exam

Its hard enough already

[tranquil pebble]

My local DMV cant even track appointments correctly all the time lol

[last mango]

Not even 1 week later after I registered my 50cc scooter and rode that day. Went into a town to 2 lanes traffic.
Truck on left was making wide turn. Sedan almost crashed into it

I'm like bruh it's obvious.

[rough zinc]

My local DMV, you gotta schedule an exam a few months in advance

[last mango]

But then both at fault. Truck wasn't using signals.

[last mango]

Months? Damn

[rough zinc]

Truck drivers are either some of the best or some of the worst drivers out there, no in between

[tranquil pebble]

had to renew my license once and they forgot about an appointment I made with them Fortunately they still let me go through with it then and there.

[rough zinc]

Very populated area (Long Island)

[last mango]

Makes sense

[rough zinc]

Lol you got lucky, Ive seen people get sent home or back to a couple hour long line because they forgot to fill out one line on a form or missed a signature

[tranquil pebble]

nah the dmv in this case admitted their failure

I had proof of it too though

[wraith fern]

i thought this was a checklist

lmao

[unreal trail]

[rancid juniper]

bruh

[craggy shoal]

L

[last mango]

About to gift him and reverse your L

[storm narwhal]

Lmao

[rancid juniper]

doing it out of spite

😂

[last mango]

😎

[velvet summit]

What the hell does that do

[last mango]

I am actually interested in that hyrbid tranmission

how does it work

[storm narwhal]

Doesn't it just give you the option to shift gears

[last mango]

I bet it has more gears involved

[rough zinc]

In a normal automatic just lets you select what gear youre in, in a rubber band transmission it just lets you cycle through a bunch of pre set gear rations

[storm narwhal]

Rubber band

[velvet summit]

Huh

[nocturne flicker]

I got cut off at an intersection while making a turn when I had the right of way. That was an instant fail

[rough zinc]

I got an instant fail because I missed a turn I was supposed to make because the instructor never told me to make it

[velvet summit]

Wait, you got a fail because someone cut you off?

[nocturne flicker]

Yes

[velvet summit]

What

[rough zinc]

Made a perfect U turn 100 ft down the road and got to the end of the test without any issues and still got an instant fail

[velvet summit]

💀

[rough zinc]

"Failure to listen"

[dusk knot]

Hm

[nocturne flicker]

I did everything perfectly but I got cut off. He'd have just had me turn around then and there but I was calm and just asked to finish the test

So we did it, he praised me for keeping calm after the intersection bit and for doing perfect parallel parking and three point turns

[pseudo raven]

they test parking?

[nocturne flicker]

Parallel parking yeah

[pseudo raven]

not in California 🦅

[velvet summit]

Is it a graduated licensing system over there or is it a one and done

[rough zinc]

Some states also do head in parking

[pseudo raven]

not in California 🦅

[pseudo raven]

a permit and then a full license

think theres separate ones for motorcycles and big rigs

[nocturne flicker]

Wait, why would they test on head in parking? That is one of the most basic things you can do

[rough zinc]

For normal cars its just one license, then after you reach a certain weight there are different grades of license

[keen shale]

3 different CDL classes, motorcycle, 3 wheeled vehicle, and cars

[rough zinc]

Oh theres also a trike license?

[nocturne flicker]

Yes

[keen shale]

Where I live there is, I'd assume most places as well

[rough zinc]

Always thought that fell under motorcycle but neevr actually did any research into it

[nocturne flicker]

I dunno if it is everywhere but I've heard of it

It is a class 6E or something

[velvet summit]

Over here there's 3 stages of driving licenses; written test gives you the g1 license, which only allows you to drive when there's a g license of 4? Years in the passenger seat, and you can't go on highways
You have to have that for 1 year before the next step
G2 for the first road test, then you're allowed to drive by yourself at any hours, but you have to be retested every 5 years if you don't pass/attempt the next test
G license is the 2nd road test, and tests you on highways, and once you get that, you can drive without retesting until you reach like 70 or smth, then you have to be retested every year

All road tests exams your parking ability

[rough zinc]

In NY you can pretty much have any license and you can drive a three wheeled vehicle

Cant take any road tests in them tho

https://dmv.ny.gov/more-info/what-three-wheeled-motor-vehicle

[nocturne flicker]

Oh wait, actually I think 6E is one of the Canadian ones

[nocturne flicker]

My North Country is coming through

[keen shale]

The Polaris Slingshots don't fall under this

Lol, NY is so messed up

[velvet summit]

6 different CDL's here
Technically more if you include air brake/non air brake licenses

[keen shale]

"does not require the operator to straddle or sit astride. To be operated on New York State roadways, these vehicles must be equipped with safety belts for all"

That's what the Slingshots are then they say they qualify

Ohhh, I was thinking of something else, nevermind

I was thinking of the Rykers and Stryders

[rough zinc]

What are you thinking of?

[keen shale]

Those need a special license

[rough zinc]

Oh those disgusting things

[nocturne flicker]

Wait a minute, why isn't two in rear one in front 3 wheeled?

[keen shale]

Because those aren't made anymore and are inherently dangerous. The old Robins were death traps lol

[rough zinc]

Take a turn too fast or sharply and youre tipping over

[nocturne flicker]

Are they? Guess the guy who has one down here doesn't know

[keen shale]

I mean, I have a Honda three wheeler

If you know what you're doing, fine

But there's a reason they didn't make them very long

[rough zinc]

Probably just driving it for the nostalgia

[nocturne flicker]

Hold on a minute, they are still making them

[keen shale]

really?

The old Reliant Robins?

[rough zinc]

Really?

[nocturne flicker]

Road Glide 3, RF1 ST3, Freewheeler

Two rear wheels one front

[keen shale]

Those are motorcycles

[rough zinc]

Thats different, completely different weight balance

[keen shale]

I was talking more about things like the Robins, actual cars

[nocturne flicker]

Then what is this for?

[rough zinc]

I thought he was talking about slingshots and things like that

[keen shale]

Slingshot

[nocturne flicker]

I was talking motorcycles

[craggy shoal]

Bruh I see these goofy things everywhere

They all drive so slow

[keen shale]

KTM Xbow is amazeballs

[craggy shoal]

And then they give me a weird look when I fly by them at the speed limit 💀

[rough zinc]

Half of them are usually people renting them for a day

[craggy shoal]

Makes sense

[keen shale]

The motorcycle versions are generally fine and fall under the motorcycle category. I was talking cars with 2 rear and one front like the Robins

[last mango]

I wanna own a street approved formula car called BAC

1,190 lbs weight and power weight ratio is 580 bhp

Does 60 mph in 2.8 seconds

[rough zinc]

I see tours of them constantly bac when I was on LI over the summers

Slingshots*

[last mango]

lol

[nocturne flicker]

The reason why I was talking about motorcycles is because that NY DMV page clearly states they are classified as motorcycles

[icy ore]

hey ive got this car in forza horizon 5

[craggy shoal]

I have it an Gran Turismo and it's making a realistically upgraded ~400 hp rather than 1515hp in Forza lol

[rough zinc]

I forgot cars like that existed because they werent produced for decades now

[rough zinc]

Wdym 2000 horsepower out of a miata is not realistic???

[keen shale]

The exact page in question though specifically talks about the Slingshot, which is the one you sit in with a seatbelt

The ones you're talking about fall under a different category, got a link?

[last mango]

Yeah same

[twilit wren]

anyone mind helping me find a monitor?

[last mango]

Copied from Wikipedia

The Mono weighs 540 kg (1,190 lb), resulting in a power-to-weight ratio of 518 bhp per tonne. It delivered performance figures of 0–62 mph (0–100 km/h) in 2.8 seconds and a top speed of 170 mph (274 km/h).[7] BAC aimed for an equal weight distribution, 48/52 front/rear, and as low of a centre of gravity as possible when designing the Mono.

[sweet phoenix]

what gpu and cpu do you have

and whats your budget/country

[craggy shoal]

should've used the > character instead for quoting

[twilit wren]

i7-13700F, RTX 4060 Ti

[sweet phoenix]

do you already own the pc?

[twilit wren]

not yet, its being shippped

[keen shale]

The difference is sitting in a seat with a seatbelt vs sitting astride a seat, etc

[sweet phoenix]

mm

Us?

[twilit wren]

yup

[sweet phoenix]

how much was it?

[twilit wren]

1k

for the whole

set up thing

[sweet phoenix]

If you can cancel
https://www.ebay.com/itm/155985525984?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=92chrSivS8C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

$920, and you can upgrade ram for $90 either now or down the line

[twilit wren]

ohhh

[sweet phoenix]

If not, or you don't feel like it, not my business

[twilit wren]

shows 1k for me 😭

[sweet phoenix]

Anyways, back to monitor

[sweet phoenix]

Extra 8% off at check out

Applies automatically

[twilit wren]

ohh

[sweet phoenix]

What would you want to spend on a monitor?

[last mango]

I'm on mobile so if I do that

[twilit wren]

i was looking at

[last mango]

It quotes one line

[twilit wren]

like $150

[last mango]

Watch

[twilit wren]

preferrably less, but anything less than 200 works

[sweet phoenix]

If you could do $180
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d

$160
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XFkH99/koorui-27e1qa-270-2560-x-1440-144-hz-monitor-27e1qa

[last mango]

Copied from Wikipedia

The Mono weighs 540 kg (1,190 lb), resulting in a power-to-weight ratio of 518 bhp per tonne. It delivered performance figures of 0–62 mph (0–100 km/h) in 2.8 seconds and a top speed of 170 mph (274 km/h).[7] BAC aimed for an equal weight distribution, 48/52 front/rear, and as low of a centre of gravity as possible when designing the Mono.

[craggy shoal]

bruh

press space after the >

like this

bruh

[sweet phoenix]

$140 there's a good refurb 1440p 170hz IPS if you want that link as well

[last mango]

And if I do that on computer it automatically does that without needing space

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[craggy shoal]

😐

😐

😐

😐

[last mango]

test

[keen shale]

<no>

[last mango]

ok

[keen shale]

😉

[twilit wren]

another question, is 240 hz monitors worth it

[last mango]

Are you comp player

[craggy shoal]

Markdown is easy

[sweet phoenix]

almost always no

esp because youd be dropping to 1080p at your budget

[random osprey]

240hz not worth, buy 540hz instead

[sweet phoenix]

real

drop $1200 for a 540hz 1080p OLED

[nocturne flicker]

The only time the DMV page on motorcycle licenses and the motorcycle manual mentions 3 wheelers is by saying if you take the test with a 3 wheeler your license will be limited to them and that three wheel motor vehicles should be tested on car routes

[last mango]

Gets rekt by a 60hz pro sweat player

looks at Theo yells

[nocturne flicker]

That page linked earlier is the only one on the dmv defining a three wheeled motor vehicle

[last mango]

I wonder if motorcycle road test is quite easy compared to normal drivers road test

btw i live in maryland

[twilit wren]

@sweet phoenix could i dm u rq?

[random osprey]

depends on the bike probably for what they test you on like being able to turn and stuff

[nocturne flicker]

Infact, there are no wheel count qualifiers on motorcycles that I can find on the NY DMV

[sweet phoenix]

id rather talk here

[proud jackal]

[twilit wren]

well i cant send images but i found this $130 240hz 1ms 27 inch curved monitor, is it worth the buy?

[craggy shoal]

17 inches?

[mortal grail]

Das big

[craggy shoal]

💀

[mortal grail]

Sorry what we talkin bout

[twilit wren]

OOPS

[craggy shoal]

monitors

[twilit wren]

I MEAN 27 😭

[craggy shoal]

lmaooo

[mortal grail]

Lol

[mortal grail]

Probably some half decent va panel

[craggy shoal]

What's the resolution? That's quite a low price for those specs

Probably an Acer 27" 1080p isn't it?

[twilit wren]

IPS Panel
16:9 display ratio
1920 x 1080 resolution

[craggy shoal]

ew

1080p 27"

nah

Do like 1080p 24"

[twilit wren]

alright

[craggy shoal]

1440p 27" would probably be a better option though imo

upgrade monitors now for when you get a GPU that can handle it. Just run the games in 1080p. Won't look too weird

[twilit wren]

thanks man

i found a 27" 1140p 170hz monitor

should i cop that for $120?

[craggy shoal]

What's the brand?

[twilit wren]

acer sadly 😭

[craggy shoal]

Nah just stay away from Acer

same for any offbrand too

[keen shale]

Huh. We have completely separate license classes for them.

[craggy shoal]

Just look for these specs: IPS, 1440p, (whatever refresh rate you want), 27"
Or if you're going 1080p, same specs but max size I'd say (same with others) should be 24"

[twilit wren]

got it

[sweet phoenix]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/145613148025?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=c4qaBlmORkO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[sinful blade]

^

Bacca with the reccs

[last mango]

bacca 🐐

[sinful blade]

Bacca needs mod

[torpid kiln]

What are some common reasons GPUs may overheat?

[mortal grail]

Paste and contact, dead fan

Sag

About it

[random osprey]

really bad case with no air

[torpid kiln]

That might be it 😮‍💨

[torpid kiln]

What exactly is paste in this context?

[random osprey]

thermalpaste

[torpid kiln]

GPUs also have that, cool

[mortal grail]

The gooey stuff they stick between the gpu and the heatsink to move the heat

[torpid kiln]

How often should you replace it

[mortal grail]

Every 1-2 years

6 months if low viscosity paste

Like kryonaut

The "true" answer would be "when it gets too hot"

[velvet summit]

is it really that frequent? it doesnt feel like it needs to be that frequent from my experience

[mortal grail]

Depends on the application

[random osprey]

elon musk live rn on twitter playing diablo 4, how this man worth billions and his mic sounds like an xbox 360 kinect mic 💀

[mortal grail]

^

[velvet summit]

the range i ususally go with is like 4 years

true, depends on how much you care about temps

[torpid kiln]

What is "too" hot?

Like 90°?

[mortal grail]

Subjective

And objective as well

[torpid kiln]

Fair.

[velvet summit]

the spec max that the manufacturer specified

[torpid kiln]

Some run hotter

I'll go take a look

[mortal grail]

Each chip are fine with hotter than others or colder than others

Wow I'm really butchering this

Tjmax

[velvet summit]

lmao

[mortal grail]

Just look up tjmax

[velvet summit]

i love how little this made sense

[mortal grail]

Hotspot ideally should be under tjmax

Yeah idk

My brain might be stroking

[velvet summit]

im over here stroking my brain rn

[mortal grail]

Is it as smooth as I imagine

[proud jackal]

[dusk knot]

Exactly, Theo

[lone mango]

[mortal grail]

Cute

[elfin mural]

stroking your brain..

[velvet summit]

this is not referencing/parodying anything at all

[dusk knot]

[elfin mural]

gotta add wrinkles to it

[velvet summit]

real

[lone mango]

[elfin mural]

more wrinkles more smart

[dusk knot]

More surface area

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/bulldog-des-moines-drake-drake-u-griff-drake-university-gif-14419748

Smort dog lot of wrinkles

[elfin mural]

yes

[proud jackal]

do i need 8k polling on desktop

[random osprey]

no, dont really need it in games either really until more games can handle it

[proud jackal]

[random osprey]

itll just make the game stutter depending on the game

[storm narwhal]

Don't games like stutter and freak out at 8khz polling rate

Oh yeah there we go

4khz polling rate perhaps

[random osprey]

plus you need a decent/good cpu too

[proud jackal]

I HABR INYRL

INTEL

[nocturne flicker]

Stroke time?

[random osprey]

cs2 and valorant are probably the only games thatll probably handle 4k/8k well

[fervent stump]

I’d boost but me poor

[tidal scroll]

is the i7 12700kf a powerful cpu?

[rancid juniper]

ye

[spark halo]

The real answer is if you need to re-paste every 6 months the problem may lay in too high of voltage.

Repasting will only drop the temp by 3-5c

Undervolting however, is a permeant fix to the problem.

[keen shale]

wat

[spark halo]

You talking 90f right…

[torpid kiln]

C.

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-surprised-shocked-oh-my-god-gif-15440994307613885016

This is at peak right?

[tidal scroll]

made a list for music production and no gaming

is this good?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cxm9VW

and if not can someone make a build for under 800?

[mortal grail]

That.... doesn't apply to a lot of things

Radeon in general for example isn't dictated in heat by voltage, only ppt

Ryzen is the same, ppt, not voltage

[sweet phoenix]

Music production loves single core performance and low latency ram

Meaning ddr5

[mortal grail]

Ah I can hear it being typed now "Undervolting improves performance", yes but the heat draw is the same still

[spark halo]

Correct you can usually reduce the tdp total by .1 or .2 as long as you stay above 1.0

[mortal grail]

Nope

[sweet phoenix]

Felix does 7600 make sense for music production

[mortal grail]

Sure

[sweet phoenix]

Ty

[mortal grail]

AMD products almost all strictly obey ppt, regardless of voltage

If a 6800XT is designated to run at 350w, undervolting will still have it draw 350w

It'll just do 350w with more performance and instability

[sweet phoenix]

Can go any way between 6600/6650/7600, it won't affect music production perf
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pYYswg

Honestly igpu should be fine

[mortal grail]

Ryzen does the exact same with PBO, except it's a bit more apparent with curve optimiser

[spark halo]

Why undervolt a gpu though is my question

[sweet phoenix]

It can improve performance

[mortal grail]

On nvidia with power limited gpus it makes sense

[sweet phoenix]

On my 6800xt it made almost 800 pts of difference in timespy

[mortal grail]

You can eeks a few watts less using their completely different boost table

[tidal scroll]

integratged?

[sweet phoenix]

Yeah, 7600 has an igpu

[spark halo]

Intresting

[sweet phoenix]

Afaik you won't need a dgpu for music production, unless there's any other uses

[mortal grail]

Intel before lga1700 was very good at this too

[sweet phoenix]

Like even minecraft I'm unsure that igpu could handle

[mortal grail]

On current lga1700 tho you have better luck with power limits

[sinful blade]

Ya know, the 7800x3d does worse in non-gpu gaming than I thought it would

[tidal scroll]

yeah no gaming at all

just music

[sweet phoenix]

Any other workstation uses?

And you can always add a gpu later on if needed anyways

[mortal grail]

Honestly yeah a simple igpu system or even a macbook/cheap laptop

[sinful blade]

I know it’s primary purpose isn’t to run games itself
But it’s Igpu feels a little weak

[mortal grail]

More ram is nicer but not revolutionary

[sweet phoenix]

It depends how heavy the music production is

[mortal grail]

Or rather your workspace

[sinful blade]

Kinda surprised AI music production didn’t take off

[sweet phoenix]

I've run into some people on reddit who've genuine use cases for 64gb and high core count cpus for music production

Something about multi track something or other

[mortal grail]

Got sued into the ground

[sinful blade]

Wait actually?

I didn’t hear about this

[mortal grail]

Ofc the music industry would do that

[proud jackal]

what if i told you

music was already made with computers

[mortal grail]

They're the most copyright happy people in the world

[proud jackal]

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-17800533426298923867

https://ipwatchdog.com/2024/07/03/sound-litigation-major-labels-take-ai-music-generators/id=178539/

[weak cedar]

https://www.anker.com/products/a2345-anker-prime-charger-250w-6-ports-ganprime

And it's a clock

[rancid juniper]

What am I supposed to feel?

[hot pumice]

AI ‼️

[tranquil pebble]

https://x.com/stealth40k/status/1822788851993108714?s=46

Stealth (@Stealth40k) on X

Krafton (a South Korean Publisher) announced that it has taken over Tango Gameworks, welcoming all employees back.

They plan on reviving and expanding the Hi-Fi Rush IP which they now own.

https://t.co/mbabs4M0Pd

Twitter · Aug 12, 2024, 12:15 AM

Tango lives, omg

[rancid juniper]

I just posted before you

[rancid juniper]

Under the possible wrong people again...

But I'm glad they bought them atleast

[tranquil pebble]

Well there is at least a glimmer of hope now, whereas there was none before

[rancid juniper]

True

Hope they push some of that pubg money into good use and bring back most of the staff that got laid off

I'm glad they are pushing plans to expand on hi-fi Rush's IP

[tranquil pebble]

I dont have much hope for Ghostwire 2 but if they did that, itd be great

[tranquil pebble]

yeah they be the type to sue a random for singing in public or something

[wraith fern]

its basically useless

anything past 1k is not needed

2k is the most i'd go honestly

if 0.001 response time isn't enough for you then idk what to say

[tranquil pebble]

dynamic polling rate that is constantly in flux... now that would mess up games probably

[wraith fern]

if you really really need 0.00012 then go ahead but you wont notice it

[wraith fern]

yeah it justs messes stuff up

need more cpu power, uses more cpu power, causes stutters and lower fps

[tranquil pebble]

1 khz is already overkill for most

[wraith fern]

its the highest i think mice should be

[tranquil pebble]

8 khz keebs exist too lol

absolutely stupid

[wraith fern]

my mouse has an option where you can pay more to get 8k polling rate

i think thats stupid

[tranquil pebble]

its like marketing took over the engineering dept

[wraith fern]

why would i pay more for that 😭

[wraith fern]

dawg its a keyboard 💀 💀 8k polling rate is just goofy

[wraith bay]

Where can i put my overall hardware trouble shooting thread that I've been workin with since june?

[wraith fern]

honestly 500 polling rate is plenty

[tranquil pebble]

hw dlc... kinda like intel tried a few times

[wraith fern]

intel is a mess rn

[tranquil pebble]

mine is 1 khz, which is fine

[wraith fern]

exactly

no need for more

[tranquil pebble]

Keychron K5 SE, best kb I have ever had so far

[tranquil pebble]

never forget this nonsense

[wraith fern]

lmfao

thats goofy

[mortal grail]

You could literally manually mod it in

[tranquil pebble]

Intel was selling CPUs with part of the cache disables and charging you to unlock said cache

[mortal grail]

It was a modern scam

[tranquil pebble]

yeah

[wraith fern]

didnt the amd fx cpus also have controversy

i had one of them

[mortal grail]

Bulldozer claiming 8 cores when it wasn't yes

[tranquil pebble]

yes but it was Clustered Multi Thread

[worn wave]

pretty sure this is how they do it. No need for the mouse to be polling at 4k when it's still or moving slow

[wraith fern]

i liked my fx 8350

it was a good cpu

served me well]

[nocturne flicker]

I didn't like mine

[wraith fern]

lmao

fx 8350 with the dual gtx 760s 🥶

[tranquil pebble]

4 GHz i7 920 would likely have wiped the floor with it, which is what I had

[wraith fern]

and the original corsair h100i

[wraith fern]

shhhh

it ran roblox fine

[nocturne flicker]

It is in a place of shame. On top of a book shelf staring down at me in the room I do PC stuff in

[wraith fern]

mine is gone

i sold it

🙄

[tranquil pebble]

my i7 920 is still around

[wraith fern]

i got rid of most of my tech

[nocturne flicker]

I don't sell stuff often, I just keep it around and salvage as needed

[wraith fern]

only stuff i really have are some spare fans and some old parts

not nice parts though

[tranquil pebble]

thing was an absolute monster of a CPU for 2009

[wraith fern]

some old ddr3 n stuff

[nocturne flicker]

Comes in handy when I have a compulsive urge to build a PC for flimsy justifications

[tranquil pebble]

In an era where sub 3 GHz was still very very common, I was running 4 GHz on all cores. lol.

[wraith fern]

i shouldve kept all my old parts. i was upgrading slowly and at some point last year i finally hit a part where i couldve made another pc

but i didnt

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[craggy shoal]

I'm planning to sell my old parts lol

[wraith fern]

i shouldve made a pc out of em

[tranquil pebble]

Windows Vista experience index had no idea how to rate it... it hit the cap on that thing

[wraith fern]

couldve sold it for like 100 bucks or smtn

[tranquil pebble]

Windows 7, also capped

[wraith fern]

honestly im surprised my parts ran windows 10 well

[nocturne flicker]

Individual parts sell for more than old PCs usually

[craggy shoal]

I have like three PCs I use daily with old parts lol

[wraith fern]

bruh i forget

lmao

[tranquil pebble]

which sucks because the result is useless PC spam on ebay

[craggy shoal]

And then I still have so many parts that I've had before these three PCs

[wraith fern]

honestly if you just search facebook marketplace you find some pretty good deals

ebay people seem to know more about their parts

[craggy shoal]

It'll kick you eventually lmao (ask me how I know)

[tranquil pebble]

overpriced like Optiplexes with nothing but the mobo in them...

[wraith fern]

really? it's yelled a t me a lot and i've never been kicked

[nocturne flicker]

What you don't like the 10k listings for old cpus from China?!

[tranquil pebble]

You got kicked on Aug 5, 2020?

[craggy shoal]

Eventually

[wraith fern]

oh yeah i have an old 550w psu from one of those, it's propreitary so its 1000% useless

[craggy shoal]

Forgot when but that sounds about right

[wraith fern]

i need to toss it

[craggy shoal]

bruh I have more CPUs than PSUs 💀

[tranquil pebble]

If I were to disable all but one core on a CPU, would it still have access to all the L3 cache?

got an idea for a funny

[keen shale]

I still have my old AMD Athlon 1600 somewhere

[wraith fern]

mm msfs

[tranquil pebble]

Turion X2 laptop I have around

[craggy shoal]

Man y'all are old. My oldest CPU is an FX 8350

[keen shale]

My first CPU was an Intel 100 mhz lol

[tranquil pebble]

My oldest is a Cyrix MII, super socket 7

[keen shale]

Whole thing was ceramic, no heatsink

[craggy shoal]

YO WHAT IS THIS

lmaooo I'm too young

[keen shale]

had one of those too, back when sockets were universal

[wraith fern]

old cpus are great you can get em for like $2

[tranquil pebble]

yep I have that exact CPU

[wraith fern]

if you want a bunch of crappy cpus you could get a pile of em for like 30 bucks

[tranquil pebble]

CPU necklace lol

would be fun to do with a dead 13900k/14900k

[wraith fern]

harvest the gold 💀

harvest the pins and melt them into something cool

[tranquil pebble]

only works for PGA obviously

[craggy shoal]

Fan/Heatsink Required
Bruh they really had to tell you

[wraith fern]

all old cpus are pga

unless some were lga?

[keen shale]

Yeah because back then CPU's didn't need a heatsink

[tranquil pebble]

yes because these were times before this was universal

[wraith fern]

lmao gpus had no rad either

[proud jackal]

Feel like you need to sit so far from 32" monitor

[wraith fern]

or if they did it was one little fal

[tranquil pebble]

so much naughty language tonight

[wraith fern]

on GYATT

🤯

[tranquil pebble]

one fun thing with Super 7 is it can take Intel, AMD, Cyrix, or WinChip CPUs.

A K6 would find itself at home in that socket just as easily as the Cyrix

Imagine putting an AIO on a 90s CPU

[tranquil pebble]

manga style anger vein go brr

[keen shale]

HA! Found it

Athlon 2800 tho

It got a little warm and died

[tranquil pebble]

before Athlon 64?

[keen shale]

1999

[tranquil pebble]

so yes

[keen shale]

Indeed

This was around the Intel Slot era I think?

[tranquil pebble]

Pentium 3 yes

[keen shale]

Still in the OG package too, from Fry's

[tranquil pebble]

also "slockets"

[keen shale]

Oh, I remember those

Crap back then was so weird

[tranquil pebble]

late 90s were absolutely full of stuff we now would call absolutely cursed

[keen shale]

You remember the cold cathode lighting days??

[tranquil pebble]

yes those were still going into the late 2000s

[keen shale]

Back in the day this was a hot setup LMAO

[tranquil pebble]

My first gaming PC had such

[keen shale]

MIne too, I gotta find the pic now

[tranquil pebble]

Core i7 920, OC to 4 GHz, Radeon HD 4890 1 GB GDDR5, 12 GB DDR3 triple-channel 1333 MHz, and a 1 TB HDD... in 2009

$300 CPU was beating past years $1000 extreme editions with ease

also, GDDR5 is not a typo. That was one of the first cards to have that.

[tranquil pebble]

Remember the days of basically thin client OS built into the mobo itself?

I had that too

[keen shale]

Hmmm, don't remember that one

[tranquil pebble]

this thing

[keen shale]

Nope, don't remember that

Was that a prebuilt thing?

[tranquil pebble]

might have only been on high end boards

[tranquil pebble]

no, it came with mobos, including X58 ones

[keen shale]

Here's some old hot hardware lol

Shiny copper ram

[tranquil pebble]

my i7 920 system was a direct successor to those for high end

[keen shale]

Yeah, I think I was on AMD for that series

I got the first AMD64 when it came out

[tranquil pebble]

was also Intels first true quad core CPU

[tranquil pebble]

the mobo I had

[keen shale]

Ah, the good old days. color coded slots

[tranquil pebble]

both Vista and 7 went zooming on that thing, like unreal how instant everything was

[keen shale]

First GPU I ever had was INtel. I720 or something?

Starfighter

Can't find my cold cathode pic

Starting to think it's on film and not digital

[craggy shoal]

Back in the day of north bridge and south bridge

[keen shale]

back in the day when nVidia made bridge chips

[storm narwhal]

crazy how not really that long ago it was

[keen shale]

20 years/

?

[tranquil pebble]

that board has SAS on it too

[craggy shoal]

Like a decade ago, right?

[tranquil pebble]

also 14 USB ports lol

[storm narwhal]

that's not terribly long ago

[keen shale]

2010

14 years ago

[storm narwhal]

14 years

huh longer than I expected

[tranquil pebble]

my current board has SATA spam and some U2 ports

[storm narwhal]

U2?

[tranquil pebble]

and more PCIe lanes than one could ever ask for

[storm narwhal]

what kinda motherboard

[tranquil pebble]

ASUS WRX80

[storm narwhal]

ah yes, the subaru motherboard

[tranquil pebble]

all of those are PCIe 4.0 x16 slots

[storm narwhal]

wtff

[tranquil pebble]

128 PCIe lanes

[storm narwhal]

threadripper supremacy fr

[tranquil pebble]

its a rebadged Epyc, literally

LGA 4094

[storm narwhal]

7 x16 pcie 4 slots is wild

that's at least 5 pcie nvme expansion cards and one gpu

[tranquil pebble]

it supports doing a RAID of up to 10 NVMes at a time

[storm narwhal]

RAID NVME LEGENDS

[tranquil pebble]

and dual 10G ethernet

[storm narwhal]

Jesus

[tranquil pebble]

thing will be a NAS for me once I do my next build

[storm narwhal]

I figured it'd already be your nas kekw

[tranquil pebble]

already found a 10G switch I can use

imagine that kind of LAN speeds

[storm narwhal]

ubiquiti switch?

[tranquil pebble]

that was one I was looking at

[storm narwhal]

I can't even imagine 10GB LAN

I could literally store my entire steam library on my NAS and play them all without a problem

[mortal grail]

Automod you won't stop me

[storm narwhal]

Now put that in the brain-rot translator

[tranquil pebble]

yeah a bit over a gigabyte per second

literally SATA 3 speeds over LAN

[storm narwhal]

Cloud Gaming

[tranquil pebble]

and then you have Intel integrating 64 GB of RAM... into a Xeon CPU

[storm narwhal]

Its probably going to oxidize and explode

[tranquil pebble]

$10,000 CPU

[storm narwhal]

Kaboom

[tranquil pebble]

it can boot Windows/Linux with no DIMMs installed due to having RAM on package

[mortal grail]

That's actually amazing

It's probably fast af

[tranquil pebble]

it is HBM RAM so yeah

64 GB of it

[mortal grail]

Jfc

[storm narwhal]

Does anyone daily drive this

[tranquil pebble]

said memory can be used as a CPU cache too if you use DIMMs

imagine... basically 64 GB of L4 cache

[mortal grail]

So you're telling me I can play among us purely off of my cpu

[storm narwhal]

Real

[tranquil pebble]

technically yeah you could

[storm narwhal]

Mogus

[mortal grail]

The ram is...among us

Man I'm logging off that's the nerdiest crap I've ever said

Adios

💀

[tranquil pebble]

lol

[storm narwhal]

Farewell

[tranquil pebble]

possibly some random rich person does

on the opposite end, there are extreme microcontrollers. These by nature are affordable, even if hilariously overkill for most MCU use cases.

600 MHz Cortex M7 MCU on Teensy 4.1 goes brr lol

[storm narwhal]

Pentium?

Oh microcontroller

[tranquil pebble]

yeah, the TDP is less than 1W

[storm narwhal]

Can it run doom

[tranquil pebble]

Technically yes if ported

it might even run it too fast if you didnt cap it

[storm narwhal]

Ah yes let me play doom on this digital pipe valve

[tranquil pebble]

Someone used one to make a software-emulated CPU that interfaces with a Commodore 64 to speed it up... insanity

[storm narwhal]

Lmao thats wild

It interfaces with the commodore while just software emulating a cpu

[tranquil pebble]

yes

[storm narwhal]

We got that before GTA 6

Crazy

[tranquil pebble]

the mcu is acting like a C64 CPU, with the logic implemented in software

[tranquil pebble]

same MCU can also be used to control precise ignition timing in extreme performance combustion engines

[storm narwhal]

Isn't that kind of like an FPGA kinda deal

But way more powerful I imagibe

[keen shale]

Ha, I found it!!

[proud jackal]

holy cow

2004 called

[keen shale]

2004

[proud jackal]

ROFL

[keen shale]

LMAO

I checked the taken date, literally 2004 HAHAHAH

[proud jackal]

HAHAHAHAHA

[last mango]

Strange question

Is there even an true charging cable capable of doing 60w

[keen shale]

Anker and Apple claim to make them

So do others but I think the length has to be 1 meter or less

[last mango]

Used AccuBattery and it reports 19~20W

[keen shale]

Are both devices capable of 60W though?

[last mango]

Gonna try ordering this belkin that claims 240w charge

[last mango]

Yeah it's s24 ultra and new 65w brick

But the cable I have a feeling it's not true 60w

[keen shale]

According to what I've read, S24 ultra is 45 W

[last mango]

Alright

Belkin BoostCharge USB-C to USB-C Power Cable (2M, 6.6ft), Fast Charging Cable with 240W Power Delivery, USB-IF Certified, Compatible with MacBook Pro, Chromebook, Samsung Galaxy, iPad, & More - White https://a.co/d/1j4gVLZ

Gonna see if it's gonna charge past 20w

[keen shale]

Reading this test, it only charges at 45W for a short time, then drops

https://www.chargerlab.com/charging-review-of-samsung-s24-ultra/#:~:text=It takes 1 hour and,and 80%25 in 37 mins.

[last mango]

If not, ez return.

[last mango]

Suddenly I want this

[last mango]

Thanks for linking this

Very informative

Now I wonder, do I look up 5a charge cable

Or somehow find a legit E marker chip cable

[keen shale]

5 amps would be about 100 watts, if it charges at ~20V

Gotta see if length matters also

[last mango]

Ok I'm gonna try belkin boostcharge cable then.

I'll let this chat know later when I get it

[keen shale]

I'd try a 3 foot charging cable if you want maximum wattage

[last mango]

Ones 3.3 that's set to arrive Wed and 6foot cable that can arrive today earlier. I'm impatient 💀

[deep parcel]

anyone buy glasses online? im looking around at online places to buy glasses but not sure where to get them from. I have my prescription just need glasses.

[storm narwhal]

It is 45w

They aren't going above 45w for some reason lol

[elfin mural]

it's.. weird but eh

whatever

i think 25w charging is fast enough

but im on 4500mah

[storm narwhal]

5000mAh with 45w max fast charging is still fine tbh

[elfin mural]

yeah

i can see that

even my phone doesn't charge 25w through the whole capacity lol

it's a short burst

samsung charging be like

[storm narwhal]

only needs to reach that 50% in 20 minutes

[elfin mural]

realme with 300w

(for a few seconds)

ultra fast

[storm narwhal]

demolishes battery

[elfin mural]

also like

do we need that much charging power

[wary fjord]

time is gold u know

if u can charge that thing by instant due to u forgot to charge it u fall asleep last night

[elfin mural]

isn't that why powerbanks exist

but then you would also need to keep track of your powerbank

[wary fjord]

not all uses powerbanks xD

the fast charge power banks one are expensive as hell

i like charge go brr

also as one that bring small purse power bank is heavy and bulky

[wary fjord]

true

i have one that has game boy built in on the middle of it xD

[storm narwhal]

but then you also need to remember to keep it charged

[elfin mural]

yeah

[wet spindle]

gm gm

[weak cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/he-man-i-have-the-power-sword-gif-5305079

[storm narwhal]

Though true, power banks are there for when you don't have access to a charger but need power

most of the time, at least

[paper verge]

bro these are not worth more than 5 buckos

go on ali and get the same thing

they're pretty useless anyways get the ones that can test if the charger is safe(only sends power and doesn't attempt to steal your data)

[elfin mural]

they test power protocols too tho

so you know if a charger actually supports your specific device

and whether it'll deliver full power for your device or not

but i do think $100 for that is insane

[wary fjord]

make a diy xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9mdJFHY8RY

[paper verge]

i mean this diy is goofy asf

getting it from ali is most likely gonna be cheaper and faster anyways

but there is no way i would pay $10+ for that

[fervent stump]

Ugh I have to wake up at 5:30 am

[deep parcel]

this guy goin between english and I think hindi every other word lol

[wary fjord]

xD

the only thing i understand is "usb" "micro usb" xD the rest is no idea

[last mango]

Not gonna wait 20000 weeks.

All the money being thrown at the cable and at this point I'm thinking to get an custom thick cable custom made with both USB c ends so it can last pretty awhile.

[storm narwhal]

I just got an Anker 100w cable and called it a day ngl

Use the cable that came with my phone too

It works at 45w so

[craggy shoal]

E

[storm narwhal]

A

[craggy shoal]

Sports

I swear if I go to work and there's still no Internet

[icy ore]

It actually goes “it’s in the game” not “I swear if I go to work and there's still no Internet”

[craggy shoal]

The chat is too dead I felt like venting

[wary fjord]

they finally touch grass

https://tenor.com/view/jump-in-grass-jump-gif-21351898

[craggy shoal]

No Tomie, we're mostly in America. We're all sleeping or going to work lol

[wary fjord]

american dont touch grass?

i see i see

[remote geode]

low-key thinking about a switch from my intel i5 11600k to a Ryzen 5 5700x3d

[wary fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[remote geode]

I really want that power efficiency

[wary fjord]

why not go to am5

[remote geode]

too pricey

[wary fjord]

i only recomend going am4 if u already have am4 board to begin with xD

[remote geode]

a salary of what, 300 usd can only stretch me so far

[wary fjord]

u gonna sell that cpu anyway

it will be less

[craggy shoal]

Honestly that’s true too

[wary fjord]

and that board too

[remote geode]

i would assume i'd get like uhhh 300 dollars at best

[wary fjord]

im the one should going to 5700x3d xD but im waiting for it to go 6k php

so far its 9k php

[remote geode]

is it really worth it to forgo the 3d vcache to go to am5?

[craggy shoal]

I just upgraded (downgraded) from a 13700K to a 7900X lol. It costed me around ~$600 to do that. Would've been more expensive if I didn’t have 32GB of DDR5

[remote geode]

yeah it's at 9k on aliexpress rn

[remote geode]

the heat has been becoming unbearable

so i have been thinking of ways of curbing it down

[wary fjord]

i dont buy aon ali it takes a month

[remote geode]

getting better ventilation isn't really an option for me at the moment LOL

[remote geode]

yeah, but they're usually cheaper

there is no second hand seller of any x3d chip here :v

[craggy shoal]

Primarily 13th and 14th gen. 16c/24t sounds super nice until you have to deal with the lack of power limits and heat. My 13700K produced the TDP of a low-mid-end GPU. It's nuts. I’m glad I've switched

[remote geode]

100w for 4.8ghz is crazy!

i could pull it down to 80w if i want 4.7ghz on my 11600k

(under gaming loads)

[craggy shoal]

Bruh I wish. My 7900X still doesn't make that kind of TDP, though I think I can reduce that in the BIOS

[wary fjord]

its cheaper because its a tray version

no box at all

[remote geode]

it's ok, no?

or is there like a risk with tray versions

[wary fjord]

nothing aslong u can return it with no hussle it doesnt matter if its risky

its only risky if no refund allowed

here we have 2 year window

[remote geode]

mhm mhm

[paper verge]

thats literally every indian video

english intro + hindi video + no automatic subtitles

[serene nacelle]

wassup buddsa

[storm narwhal]

What no wayy

[craggy shoal]

"How To Reset Password 2024 (Hindi Voice Tut)"

Bruh what's the point of taking the HOV lane if you're just gonna go the speed limit

[unreal trail]

trollface

[velvet summit]

Managed to catch a mosquito in an awkward spot with some shaving cream

Get rekt bloodsucker

[languid zenith]

“A naked man never fears someone who pickpockets”

[craggy shoal]

Ok

[chrome mirage]

We have people coming to clean carpets at work today but the room they will have to use to fill the carpet machine is currently being rented out and there are people in it.

It's almost like the people who make decisions around here don't actually know what's happening in the buildings.

[tranquil pebble]

lol as long as you don't have to take responsibility for it just sit back and watch

[last mango]

I'm only commenting because my original 60w Anker brick and anker cable that said 60w. It would super fast charge for me.

Until my phone decides to just go back to 20w fast charge...

[proud jackal]

It's protecting the battery

Mine does same with 45w brick and 100w cord

[opaque sedge]

Has anyone played ghostrunner here?

[velvet summit]

Heat causes batteries to degrade faster

[keen shale]

Who's the go to for thermal pads these day. Gelid? Kritical? Need an oddball 2.25mm size.

[last mango]

Oof.

I learn something new. Thanks guys

I'll just stick with my 65w capable brick and 60w cable and be content.

[wary fjord]

elon the best

[sweet phoenix]

@mortal grail

[opaque sedge]

Is the witcher 3 better on dx12 or 11?

Nvm dx11 seems to be an engine recommended for older pcs

[keen shale]

Gelid doesn't have 2.25mm. Kritical it is. 3070 FTW is same as my 3070 XC3 so is what it is.

[wary fjord]

both

[tranquil pebble]

DirectX 13 when?

[keen shale]

Windows 12

[wary fjord]

how old is ur pc

if u at my pc lvl dx12 is nice .. just 3600 / 5700 non xt lvl

[rancid juniper]

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-x-mediatek-ai-pc-chip-launch-h1-2025-targeting-intel-amd-qualcomm-socs/

[opaque sedge]

Idk the parts are current gen

[rancid juniper]

nvidia x mediatek is a wild combo

[opaque sedge]

7800x3d and 7900xt

[keen shale]

DX12 should be fine then

[wary fjord]

bad combo ngl

[rancid juniper]

[wary fjord]

i hate mediatek xD in android space

and their wifi

sucks

[opaque sedge]

Guys… any tips

[wary fjord]

play vanilla

[rancid juniper]

bro got personal beef

[wary fjord]

i recommend playing withcer on a controller

while laying down on a couch

witch hot choco on the side

[opaque sedge]

What should i do here?

Never played any of the witcher series before

[wary fjord]

do fresh start

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/IeBruhhigPI?si=SIgHQvjaMSxx1JY3

[opaque sedge]

So off?

[elfin mural]

mediatek is good tho, their socs

[opaque sedge]

Clickbait now?

[elfin mural]

but i hate their wifi cards

[wary fjord]

9000 series aim the same perf as old one but better wattage

[elfin mural]

mtk might close their source codes, but they do make legitimately good socs

[wary fjord]

intel does that on 13th and 14th xD

they consume same hahah

[opaque sedge]

So off?

[tranquil pebble]

so easier to cool too probably

[keen shale]

If you PBO 9000 series, it actually works

[rancid juniper]

honestly i feel like AMD should've done it like this
E
X
X3D

[keen shale]

Otherwise, 7000 series but cooler

[elfin mural]

also, am5's missing perf is from smt

[wary fjord]

also just oc 9000 series if u not happy with it

[elfin mural]

turn it off and the 9700x screams

[keen shale]

Not just SMT but also PBO

[wary fjord]

they really good when u oc them

[elfin mural]

it can touch 7800x3d

[tranquil pebble]

AMD decided to chill out

[keen shale]

3K point increase in Cinebench with PBO and curve optimiser on

[rancid juniper]

9700x should be 9700E if they want lower power same performance
9700x alone is just unlocked power

[elfin mural]

pbo enabled+smt off is the best combo for am5

[opaque sedge]

Damn single tower cooler sales or low profile cooler sales gonna be insane next year then

[elfin mural]

it's weird how smt decreases perf tho

[tranquil pebble]

Ryzen ⑨000 series powered by Cirno

[opaque sedge]

Srsly 👁️👄👁️

[wary fjord]

ryzen 10k series when

[elfin mural]

it does

[keen shale]

I found the pic. Ah, the glory days!

[elfin mural]

i looked at techpowerup's bench

[opaque sedge]

Can i do the same for the 7800x3d?

[elfin mural]

yes

[tranquil pebble]

glowing cables are so cool

[opaque sedge]

What the hell is that

[keen shale]

UV cold cathode lol

[elfin mural]

you still get a healthy gaming perf boost by disabling smt

[opaque sedge]

Whats the perf gain from there

[keen shale]

2004 Pre-RGB days

[elfin mural]

it's enough to lead 14900k

[rancid juniper]

is smt hyperthreading or sum?

[opaque sedge]

I’m assuming its done in bios right?

[elfin mural]

that's all imma say

yeah you disable smt in bios

[keen shale]

Yes

[elfin mural]

^

[rancid juniper]

k

[keen shale]

Simultaneous Multi Threading

[opaque sedge]

I think theres a similar setting in cyberpunk

[elfin mural]

disabling smt is a surefire way tho

[opaque sedge]

Was set to auto as default

[elfin mural]

and it boosts gaming perf in all cases

[wary fjord]

brrr

[rancid juniper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfZvMWadgC0

[opaque sedge]

Btw guys what do i do here?

Wait wrong pic

Here

[keen shale]

Seems like disabling SMT is still wildly dependent on the game or software though, it's not a universal across the board increase https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9700x-performance-smt-disabled/17.html

Elden Ring, no benefit

Spider Man, big benefit

[rancid juniper]

i think the differences im looking for in SMT on/off is definitely Power and thermals

[keen shale]

SOme games disabling SMT actually decreases performance. Elden Ring

SMT disabled doesn't change that.

ON the 9000 series anyway, 7000 series a little bit.

[rancid juniper]

bruh

7700x noticeable