The 4060 Ti is 10% faster than a 3060 Ti on a good day
#general-chat
mortal grail
ancient swift
Valid.
mortal grail
Whoever wrote that spec sheet doesn't really know hardware
ancient swift
Before my current pc at work I've only tested minspec
mortal grail
Typical dev L
ancient swift
Nah someone's gotta test minspec lol
ancient swift
Ah true
ancient swift
Up until my Current test bench the best CPU I've had at work is the 5600g.
And that's not in a gaming PC.
mortal grail
Actually the jump to 4080S might be more like 2.5x
Insane jump
Oh
With a 5500 or 9700k btw
Both of which are cpu bottlenecking this gpu
ancient swift
No upgrades to my PCs at home until a biiiggg jump.
mortal grail
Also insane to me
safe cape
Both of which are cpu bottlenecking this gpu
i will build one 
mortal grail
They rec the a750 for raster but not rt
A750 should be around 3060/4060 perf in rt
If they have drivers it should be quite relative
ancient swift
I just want splitgate 2
safe cape
I just want splitgate 2
no one playing splitgate 1 ?
ancient swift
no one playing splitgate 1 ?
The Devs made it as a class project, it got to big so they hired more people and are building it up from the ground up.
craggy shoal
no one playing splitgate 1 ?
game died way too early
😩
32°C is nuts after what I've been dealing with
rancid juniper
craggy shoal
UV?
rancid juniper
Under volt
craggy shoal
Yeah
craggy shoal
But instead of offset I did adaptive in my BIOS. That guy in that video said to do "negative 100mV" so that's what I did lol
rancid juniper
Yea adaptive is the way to go, it doesn't lock into one voltage but goes higher when it needs to
craggy shoal
This is also after updating my BIOS, where I couldn't do -100mV before in offset
rancid juniper
So when you go idle it will use significantly less voltage
rancid juniper
This is also after updating my BIOS, where I couldn't do -100mV before in offset
That's why updates are crucial
craggy shoal
Still at 1.3V though :/ (idle)
rancid juniper
Huh?
HUH?
What's your power plan?
I suggest keeping it at balanced
High performance is meaningless
craggy shoal
That minimum is because I was using "Power saver" just bth
I switched it back to Balanced just for the screenshot
deep parcel
https://youtu.be/_eY5eaJG-1s?si=n7jGU99Jh6SoPWWS
been long enough
craggy shoal
I suggest keeping it at balanced
You got it, daddy benchmarker (I shouldn't say that even as a joke because you're probably underaged 💀)
rancid juniper
been long enough
Fr we back!!!
rancid juniper
You got it, ~~daddy benchmarker~~ (I shouldn't say that even as a joke because y...
Lmfao
deep parcel
https://youtu.be/_eY5eaJG-1s?si=n7jGU99Jh6SoPWWS
tbh, it just looks like new content for turbo dismount 1, like nothing really new new tbh
craggy shoal
I just realized bruh. So Ryzen has been around for nearly a decade, but the X600 CPUs are still using 6c/12t (and same with other skus and how many cores/threads they each use)
bruh
We're really getting the same CPU every year but it just performs a little better
rancid juniper
tbh, it just looks like new content for turbo dismount 1, like nothing really ne...
Turbo Dismount Expansion Pack
rancid juniper
We're really getting the same CPU every year but it just performs a little bette...
So you're thinking they are about to pull an Intel?
Because that's what they did during AMD's falloff period before ryzen
craggy shoal
I mean they could if they wanted to. They were originally religious to "MAWR CORES" when they first released
rancid juniper
beamng better in every way
Real
craggy shoal
I feel they might pull an Intel if they decide to unlock their CPUs more and also add even more cores
rancid juniper
I mean they could if they wanted to. They were originally religious to "MAWR COR...
That is true, until Intel gets themselves together maybe AMD would consider that
Also shame on them for not producing more ryzen 3s/athlons to the desktop market
craggy shoal
atp we'll all just start using ARM 💀
rancid juniper
Only problem with arm is definitely upgradability
craggy shoal
"Is ARM for GAMING GOOD in 2025?" <--- YouTube titles next year probably
craggy shoal
Only problem with arm is definitely upgradability
Oh for sure
I mean unless we get a socketable version of Apple's M3 chip (more than likely some other company who would do it)
rancid juniper
Would be dope
An arm based motherboard with swappable arm chips for a specific socket
craggy shoal
Idk though. I'd like to see someone hack an M3 MacBook to have a GPU and run Windows just to play some games. I want to see what that CPU would do lol
rancid juniper
🤔
craggy shoal
That would be the ultimate Intel killer tbh 💀
Nah but it would let Intel focus on graphics a lot more
rancid juniper
Honestly besides Intel's CPU division fumbling at the moment, I really hope their GPU side of things gets better and extra competitive
craggy shoal
bruh same
rancid juniper
Not a lot of people are rocking an arc card, but I would love to try one soon
craggy shoal
Bruh I'd love to own one someday tbh
rancid juniper
Battlemage
craggy shoal
Bruh it better get good
rancid juniper
Yep
craggy shoal
I love it when my Bazzite installation just suddenly doesn't want to go into Desktop mode 🫠
copper fable
Well, I was just able to get a full refund for shipping in Amazon
Not sure I can talk about this here 😅 cause it's Newegg server...
copper fable
Hahaha okay so I got the PC adapter for the PSVR 2
elfin mural
ope
copper fable
At first I paid 20$ for shipping
velvet summit
WHAT
copper fable
Now I just need to wait for the delivery to be completed and then I'll get it for free.. I saved it in case they'd say I was lying
velvet summit
how did i not know she had cancer
copper fable
Ha ok
velvet summit
oh i wasnt responding to you
copper fable
I thought
velvet summit
lmao
copper fable
Yeah I just figured
copper fable
also 20 for shipping is also wild
It was amazon.de so...
Should make sense
It's not available in amazon.com for me
For everyone I think
paper verge
:/
paper verge
ok motor, as i said arm is cooked
fervent stump
https://vxtwitter.com/Dexerto/status/1822141214805651940
:o WHAT
paper verge
paper verge
https://vxtwitter.com/Dexerto/status/1822141214805651940
Can't recall a single good impact she had for youtube
velvet summit
???
paper verge
she was the ceo from 2015 ish right?
can you mention a single good thing from that time?
paper verge
still just as worse
velvet summit
also google may or may not have existed (well, it would have existed eventually) but without susan, google may not have existed in its current form
since it was literally started in her garage
paper verge
... what
velvet summit
susan has been a part of google since the founding
lmao
but became the ceo of youtube in 2014
paper verge
huh thats crazy
velvet summit
everyone knows that google started in a garage, but not as many people know that it was started in the youtube ceo's garage lmfao
though honestly if i didnt know, i would have expected it to be in like one of the founder's garages
rancid juniper
everyone knows that google started in a garage, but not as many people know that...
Wow that's even more interesting, didn't know that one
fervent stump
https://youtube.com/shorts/0I-C_yrfc2s?si=J9412G2RUos5sK5O you can just make games less laggy?
rancid juniper
It's the "me at the zoo guy" right?
paper verge
It's the "me at the zoo guy" right?
dude thats a guy
rancid juniper
A guy
velvet summit
can you mention a single good thing from that time?
also youtube was on the stage of huge growth at that time, and she had to market and manage the platform to become pretty much the undisputed best free video platform on the internet
that's already difficult enough
paper verge
also youtube was on the stage of huge growth at that time, and she had to market...
last time i checked youtube was a dating site, so was that bc of her?
velvet summit
no
youtube founders were different people
also the dating site didnt last very long
iirc they tried to make it a dating site for like a week or 2 then pivoted to just a video sharing site
paper verge
why do you know soo much about youtube lol
velvet summit
i did a research project on it in hs lmfao
paper verge
ah that makes sense
velvet summit
that was years ago though the info still is in my head
random youtube/google lore
but youtube was sold to google like, i forget how long afterwards, and then there were a few ceos prior to susan, but susan has been ceo for the longest
susan also had a background at another company that i forget which it was
prior to working with google
ah
she was working in marketing for intel
deep parcel
susan also had a background at another company that i forget which it was
Intel
Ah yeah just saw now lol
I was reading through and spoke too soon
fervent stump
14900k
elfin mural
n o
fervent stump
Honestly I’m never getting intel
sweet phoenix
A majority of people held the same opinion on amd until the last like 5 years or so
elfin mural
good lord i didn't buy 13500hx acer laptop
fervent stump
A majority of people held the same opinion on amd until the last like 5 years or...
I like amd more
sweet phoenix
Who knows, next year amd cpus might have a worse issue than 13th/14th (doubtful, but it gets the point across)
My next cpu is certainly going to be amd, but I would buy intel if it were better value down the line
elfin mural
yeah
craggy shoal
fervent stump
A majority of people held the same opinion on amd until the last like 5 years or...
The thing about me it’s very very hard to change my opinion on stuff whenever I wanted to 4090 it took about two days of convincing to want a 4080 super instead
craggy shoal
Yeah that's true because you don't need a 4090 for Roblox lol
velvet summit
if it were just for roblox, even a 4070 would be silly
though it isnt, so the 4080s made a bit more sense
sweet phoenix
The thing about me it’s very very hard to change my opinion on stuff whenever I ...
That's just called being stubborn...
You do you
fervent stump
Yeah that's true because you don't need a 4090 for Roblox lol
I don’t think you read what I send
craggy shoal
I probably did (maybe I didn't) but just in case, what was it?
fervent stump
@elfin mural
velvet summit
You do you
all we do in this server is help figure out ways to solve problems, and point people towards products that make sense and/or fit their needs properly without much excess waste
what they end up actually doing is up to them and any regrets from that decision is also on them fr
sweet phoenix
I will never tell someone to buy something
I'll tell them the downsides, up sides, where they're wasting money
Not like it affects my bank account or my computer
idle nexus
heck ig today I'll try to finally put this 10700KF to use as a Nextcloud server
well maybe--since I have no idea what I'm doing lol
idle nexus
lol these are all good ideas
I think
cuz I dunno anything ngl
my tentative goal is to become my own OneDrive
velvet summit
hmm
idle nexus
so OneDrive doesn't have to
nocturne flicker
ggoodDrive
craggy shoal
I run Nextcloud and I love it
idle nexus
& I don't have to give OneDrive $7/month for 2TB
velvet summit
why do ice cream trucks have the worst speakers in existence
idle nexus
& best of all, I can send it back to the hell it came from on every device I use lol
craggy shoal
Nextcloud can be expensive but I mean it pays for itself if you put other stuff on that same server as Nextcloud if you're building a whole new system
idle nexus
well rn I have a 10700KF with a 500gb NVMe, two 250gb SSDs, & a 2TB HDD that's a blank slate lol
craggy shoal
It's also more private
velvet summit
could run it in a docker container on like, unraid or smth idk
fervent stump
Is Facebook marketplace a good place to buy computer parts or does it just depend on the area you’re in?
velvet summit
only buy local from fb marketplace
fervent stump
only buy local from fb marketplace
Yea
I don’t think I live in an area with a lot of people selling good computer parts
velvet summit
also it's fine, though deals may not always be the greatest
idle nexus
ebay prices are hit or miss but I'd go as far as saying that ebay is very buyer-friendly
btw here's another idea
velvet summit
robbery
idle nexus
I could give up on the 10700KF & instead run G7400 with the same storage setup--I think I could even throw a 1TB NVMe or at least another 500gb
the idea being that--at least I'd think?--it would be much more power efficient
velvet summit
it probably will be?
idle nexus
I mean G7400 is a dual core lol
then again my G7400 is a rare gem believe it or not because it supports AVX512
this is actually one of my best scores ever lol https://hwbot.org/submission/5591888_ggood003_y_cruncher___pi_1b_pentium_gold_g7400_57sec_686ms
ah embed fail... we meet again
oh wait jumped the gun
paper verge
all of which can be done on a cheaper amd card lol
velvet summit
damn
fervent stump
all of which can be done on a cheaper amd card lol
I was going to get a 7900xtx or a 4080s but I’m sticking with the 4080s
idle nexus
G7400@5.6ghz with 7040c32-41-39-34 memory lmao
velvet summit
all of which can be done on a cheaper amd card lol
can, but some applications like blender (apparently even after the update to improve support for amd) is still favoring nvidia a bit more
also honestly nvidia studio drivers are just more stable than amd's pro drivers
paper verge
can, but some applications like blender (apparently even after the update to imp...
Ok but are they gonna be doing production grade animating in blender? no
idle nexus
isn't CUDA gonna be like open-source or something similar nvm I dunno what I'm talking about
velvet summit
somebody/some group of people made some open source like translation layer or smth like that
paper verge
and also you guys realize animators don't really have all their stuff saved on their computer
velvet summit
so that amd gpus could use cuda as well
paper verge
its the same for ml
fervent stump
What about if you’re gonna have like 10 apps open at once because sometimes I forget to close stuff
idle nexus
that's RAM
sinful blade
^
idle nexus
& kinda storage since paging file
velvet summit
and also you guys realize animators don't really have all their stuff saved on t...
i mean, if they're doing it at home, idk if they would immediately invest in a nas or something similar
sinful blade
Gaming
idle nexus
or if you're like me, you set Windows to lock pages in memory & a bunch of people on hardware unboxed discord tell you that you're borking Windows
velvet summit
though it's smarter to not store things in your main devices because those are the most likely to experience data loss from like, ransomware
paper verge
lock pages in memory?
nocturne flicker
Yes. L cache
paper verge
how much mem do you use on idle?
fervent stump
Meow
nocturne flicker
It is why X3D isn't as impacted by ram speeds as some cpus
idle nexus
this is with Discord, Vortex mod manager, 6 tabs, & calculator open
& HWiNFO in the background
it still pages stuff but probably OS-related
I was gonna manually set no paging file but Windows starts crying & says I might not get event logs
so we compromised ig
so is TrueNAS an OS? ig I should read it hold on
fervent stump
People said for gaming get 32gb but what if I wanna also do other things too they still said to get 32gb
idle nexus
I believe so ya
idle nexus
People said for gaming get 32gb but what if I wanna also do other things too the...
if you're getting DDR5, it's kinda difficult to get anything lower than 32gb
paper verge
ah ok i was kinda like wtf are you talking about
idle nexus
cuz it makes almost no sense in terms of price
fervent stump
if you're getting DDR5, it's kinda difficult to get anything lower than 32gb
No I mean like more like 48 or 64 since I kind of wanna get a job online like coding or something
Or something with making or helping with games
idle nexus
lol the thing where it moves stuff from RAM to NVMe to let more RAM be available for other stuff
paper verge
you do not ned 48/64 for coding
idle nexus
gotta find a nice balance between memory speed and memory capacity
paper verge
i used to code for 5 years on a 4gb laptop lol
idle nexus
I feel like that statement made more sense with DDR4
now it's like get Hynix & only Hynix
velvet summit
No I mean like more like 48 or 64 since I kind of wanna get a job online like co...
you should be comfortable with coding or game development with 32gb
lmao
fervent stump
you should be comfortable with coding or game development with 32gb
Alright then
idle nexus
Samsung & Micron DDR5 seems to have such a small market presence I dunno
fervent stump
What’s a threadripper for
velvet summit
tasks that require alot of multithreaded performance
paper verge
tasks that require alot of multithreaded performance
dude you know how many devs forget to compile with multi threading?
velvet summit
aka not you
paper verge
its crazy
fervent stump
aka not you
I’m not getting it it’s just that it looks weird
idle nexus
Wouldn't it make more sense to get Epyc soon if not already? iirc Epyc is starting to overlap TR more?
like high end TR & low end Epyc... are the prices that different at this point? Doesn't Epyc support more memory lanes & what not
velvet summit
dude you know how many devs forget to compile with multi threading?
well, alot of games are also made to run on a single thread for whatever reason; probably mostly because everything relies on a single clock signal or smth idk
like, minecraft is quite heavily reliant on a single main thread
idle nexus
I suppose I dunno enough about this to ask these questions lol
fervent stump
I suppose I dunno enough about this to ask these questions lol
Noob
velvet summit
maybe if you rewrite the whole game you could fix it
but idk
i dont do game development
idle nexus
I wanna overclock an Epyc CPU. That sounds kinda fun ngl
paper verge
well, alot of games are also made to run on a single thread for whatever reason;...
i haven't touched game dev in a long time, but threading adds alot of complexity with code i'd asume thats why people dont do it
fervent stump
What’s Epyc?
fervent stump
Epyc is for servers tho
Oh alright
rancid juniper
das epic
idle nexus
lol Dual socket Epyc motherboards will support up to 4TB of RAM in 8 channels
imagine that ycruncher score
rancid juniper
very crunchy
idle nexus
256 cores
fervent stump
I’m cookin rn
idle nexus
it would be a total waste for me to own this
paper verge
did you guys see that image of the 9xxxx epyc?
idle nexus
lol still pulls less wattage than 14900KS
why is there an 8-core Epyc? I don't really get the application for that
devout forum
Holy
fervent stump
https://overclocking.com/wp-content/medias/2023/04/amd-epyc-9684x-genoa-x-2-actu...
Why is it so big?
devout forum
why is there an 8-core Epyc? I don't really get the application for that
Probably something like a HTPC?
Or like a small home server
idle nexus
cuz it can have as many as 64 CPU cores
fervent stump
Why is it so big?
It’s like 4 cpu in one
idle nexus
the Epyc 72F3 is 8c/16t & boosts to 4.1ghz
obsidian berry
https://overclocking.com/wp-content/medias/2023/04/amd-epyc-9684x-genoa-x-2-actu...
It’s so big
fervent stump
It’s so big
Yea
fervent stump
It’s literally 4 CPUs but one cpu
I just said that
idle nexus
75F3 is 32c/64t & boosts to 4ghz
fervent stump
It’s like 4 cpu in one
^^
idle nexus
heck highest Epyc L3 cache size is 768mb
obsidian berry
I’m curious how air coolers for that chip would look like
idle nexus
I wonder if you could run Windows XP just in Epyc's L3 cache lol
idle nexus
heck
paper verge
I’m curious how air coolers for that chip would look like
as far as i know, noctua makes them but you can also delid and have watercooler
fervent stump
meow
paper verge
I wonder if you could run Windows XP just in Epyc's L3 cache lol
run arch instead
surreal knot
hello
idle nexus
lol but you can't make hwbot submissions on linux for the most part
rancid juniper
fervent stump
Roblox!
idle nexus
well now that 10700KF is all set up, I'm gonna bork windows seeing how high memory will POST ig
idle nexus
ugh can't we just live in a world where PSU cables are standardized? heck
craggy shoal
Gran Turismo (and yes this is an Xbox wheel on a PlayStation)
Breaking the law rn lmao
fervent stump
Gran Turismo (and yes this is an Xbox wheel on a PlayStation)
Gran*
idle nexus
yesterday when I turned on 10700KF something smelled funny
I'm wondering if the SATA PSU cable I used was for the wrong PSU
& I torched two SSDs lol
rancid juniper
Gran Turismo (and yes this is an Xbox wheel on a PlayStation)
TMX USER TMX USER
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
paper verge
Why don’t you like the outfits I show :c
Mate when will you ever realize that most people in this server are mature guys in their ~20. Also you have some exceptions like motor, that are WW1 vets
craggy shoal
Gotta get a shifter
fervent stump
Mate when will you ever realize that most people in this server are mature guys ...
I’m very mature:D
craggy shoal
You have three pedals, right?
paper verge
told my friend to get a tmx but he got that stupid logitech g203 or whatever
craggy shoal
Mannnnn
idle nexus
my car has three lol
craggy shoal
You know your upgrade path now
rancid juniper
my car has three lol
stick shift ah driver
rancid juniper
You know your upgrade path now
aight
idle nexus
oh jeez
craggy shoal
T-LCM pedals and a TH8A (I think they make a budget shifter now that’s like sub $100)
craggy shoal
stick shift ah driver
More fun tbh
rancid juniper
i know it is
paper verge
cypertruck drivers have one 💀
idle nexus
I used the same cable & PSU connection the HDD works with & still see no SSDs in BIOS
craggy shoal
Honestly if I get the option imma have my car manual swapped (it's having transmission issues of course)
fervent stump
Mate when will you ever realize that most people in this server are mature guys ...
Do you at least think the outfit is cool?
paper verge
Do you at least think the outfit is cool?
not a single bit
fervent stump
not a single bit
Why?
paper verge
Honestly if I get the option imma have my car manual swapped (it's having transm...
do you know if some companies could artificially limit the possibility of doing that?
like in a hardware prespective
craggy shoal
do you know if some companies could artificially limit the possibility of doing ...
Maybe not artificially, but I know for my car it'll throw a bunch of codes basically "BRO THE TRANSMISSION IS MISSING" when you're doing freeway speeds. It would have to do with the "automatic transmission" ECU not know that there's a manual transmission in the car
paper verge
i don't trust car companies anymore, i had an uncle whom had a peugeot, and he had high octane gas and so his car wouldn't start. he went to the dealership and they literally fixed the issue with a software update
craggy shoal
The car would otherwise run and drive fine
rancid juniper
Why?
Outfit is fine but please, this doesn't align with our interests whatsoever. Even if this is general chat we mostly talk about tech not fashion lol
paper verge
like how does that make any sense
craggy shoal
It's just a huge hassle to do the transmission swap (for largely obvious reasons)
rancid juniper
"Your car is now unavailable since you haven't updated in 2 years, now returning to shop"
surreal knot
should I get a prebuilt from nzxt or Newegg
rancid juniper
Car drives away
paper verge
Yeah i wanted to swap my transmission to automatic on my work car, but it was too expensive, so i decided i'll stick to manual
craggy shoal
should I get a prebuilt from nzxt or Newegg
Neither 💀
rancid juniper
should I get a prebuilt from nzxt or Newegg
Lmfao no
craggy shoal
This guy wants an NZXT 💀😭
surreal knot
which company then
rancid juniper
If you can't build a PC go for ABS at the very least
surreal knot
ok
paper verge
idk why some people have a phobia of building pcs
rancid juniper
Not many people want to attempt that even if there are thousands of guides
elfin mural
if you really don't wanna build, may i suggest.. a laptop?
idle nexus
it's just Lego for grown ups
rancid juniper
Fear of breaking something is real
idle nexus
components are much stronger than they look
rancid juniper
^^^
surreal knot
Not many people want to attempt that even if there are thousands of guides
i could build one, just the fear of screwing up
rancid juniper
Bingo
paper verge
the only way anyone would mess up a pc if they get a hammer and decide to yoink in the cpu, ram, mobo, gpu using that
fervent stump
i could build one, just the fear of screwing up
I’m going to build it even though I know I will fail
rancid juniper
i could build one, just the fear of screwing up
You can't really screw up unless you have butter fingers and managed to drop them at least 20ft
paper verge
not sure if you have ever tried to break a 2mm pcb but the only way i did manage to do that, is by literally standing on it
idle nexus
putting the CPU into the socket is probably the most dangerous part
otherwise it's fairly straightforward
paper verge
You can't really screw up unless you have butter fingers and managed to drop the...
static electricity 😂
idle nexus
I've put together PCs wearing socks & sandals on carpet
static discharge is a conspiracy
jk but I'm surprised I haven't borked anything
fervent stump
I want this layout
idle nexus
I don't like that the center is missing
fervent stump
Center?
idle nexus
I never understood two monitors because of that
elfin mural
wth is that setup
fervent stump
I never understood two monitors because of that
You like three monitors next to each other?
elfin mural
three monitors with different contrast, color accuracy and everything
my eyes would hate that
fervent stump
my eyes would hate that
I’d get ones that are very similar
paper verge
static discharge is a conspiracy
its not about it not existing, it won't do anything
elfin mural
very similar isn't a thing with monitors
unless you order a few identical ones
they won't match
fervent stump
Or this but flipped
paper verge
wow the most useless monitor setup on existence
fervent stump
I love how the two are stacked
fervent stump
wow the most useless monitor setup on existence
How?
fervent stump
You like this more?
idle nexus
Windows XP Integral
elfin mural
gets malwares as soon as the pc connects to the internet
fervent stump
You like this more?
@paper verge
elfin mural
you didn't even need to do anything to get malware
devout forum
I'd either go for one portrait+one landscape
Or go TIE fighter
elfin mural
just hook it up to the internet
paper verge
The best monitor setup is one single monitor
idle nexus
devout forum
Tie fighter is just appealing to me for some weird reason
paper verge
I've been behind 4 monitors before, you'll have one you use and 3 mroe that just use power
elfin mural
last XP update 6/10/2024 https://zone94.com/downloads/software/operating-systems...
wth
fervent stump
The best monitor setup is one single monitor
I like to multitask I normally use 2
devout forum
The best monitor setup is one single monitor
Doing anything that requires a second monitor:
paper verge
same for 2 monitors maybe once a lifetime you yoink discord on one to game, but other than that you don't do anything
idle nexus
I don't think it supports nvidia cards after GTX9xx still tho
elfin mural
also yeah, unless you actually have jobs that need multi monitors
you ain't gonna benefit from it
paper verge
Doing anything that requires a second monitor:
What does require a second monitor?
devout forum
also yeah, unless you actually have jobs that need multi monitors
I for one hate single screen setups
I mean yeah it is standard
idle nexus
I use a single screen but it's 43" lol
devout forum
But it's kind of a lame standard
fervent stump
I use a single screen but it's 43" lol
Wow
idle nexus
lol no
elfin mural
it's that gigabyte 4k tv thing
paper verge
mate im not sure what sort of abnormal human beings you guys are but multitasking for long periods of time is both stupid and pretty much impossible
idle nexus
FV43U 16:9
devout forum
Oh
elfin mural
standard 16:9
devout forum
The big boy
paper verge
I use a single screen but it's 43" lol
Thats good
devout forum
I thought the big boy OLEDs are standard 42"
paper verge
cause atleast you can actually game on it
fervent stump
mate im not sure what sort of abnormal human beings you guys are but multitaskin...
I watch YT while playing games and I like to call/message my friends while playing games
idle nexus
I don't really like ultrawide
elfin mural
my "multi monitor" setup is browsing discord on my phone and gaming on my laptop
idle nexus
I had a mediocre one before that I gave to my dad
devout forum
Do you not get neck pain trying to look up to the top of that gigantic thing GG?
fervent stump
dude who in this world watches yt while playing games
Me
elfin mural
watching yt while playing games reduces your focus
idle nexus
I have three monitors but they're each on a different system
devout forum
dude who in this world watches yt while playing games
If you ever try any sort of speedrunning you'll watch YT while playing
elfin mural
also yeah having a monitor on above another is.. neck pain galore
elfin mural
i listen to songs while i game
paper verge
just pull up the video on your phone
elfin mural
so i can see the yt argument
paper verge
songs != video
fervent stump
just pull up the video on your phone
It’s hard to see the video on my phone since I don’t have a stand
devout forum
Yeah except that doesn't effing work lmfao
elfin mural
i know, but alt tabbing just to switch a song isn't all that convenient
devout forum
Especially when you have something you want to actually see on that
paper verge
Yeah except that doesn't effing work lmfao
ok then just split screen that way you save time looking at a single screen
elfin mural
im used to alt tabbing swiftly, but it's just slower anyway
paper verge
that head movement is 0.0001 seconds
devout forum
Like a keystroke sequence for a glitch you want to do
devout forum
im used to alt tabbing swiftly, but it's just slower anyway
And you pretty much can't on older Source games
fervent stump
ok then just split screen that way you save time looking at a single screen
Why would I want to split screen on a small monitor?
paper verge
never said get a 1 small monitor
elfin mural
..yeah. ubisoft games also particularly hate alt tabbing
idle nexus
It’s hard to see the video on my phone since I don’t have a stand
this is probably the best $11 I ever spent & I only use 1 of the four it comes with & gave the others to family lol https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09CDNXY2Z/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
paper verge
dude you honestly won't get it unless you try it
paper verge
..yeah. ubisoft games also particularly hate alt tabbing
cs2 hates it aswell
elfin mural
i would crash the game with a 50/50 chance
i don't like split screen myself due to window borders
fervent stump
dude you honestly won't get it unless you try it
I’m going to keep using 2 monitors instead
fervent stump
this is probably the best $11 I ever spent & I only use 1 of the four it comes w...
I’ll look into it
paper verge
i don't like split screen myself due to window borders
so monitor borders > windows borders?
fervent stump
so monitor borders > windows borders?
Yes
paper verge
yep you guys are crazy
fervent stump
yep you guys are crazy
Thx
elfin mural
i'd like to have another/less important program on the second monitor
main one would be my main focus
devout forum
yep you guys are crazy
I mean you're cringe so that makes it even
idle nexus
I hate how the difference in size of mouse pointer size 3 is so much bigger than 2
elfin mural
no way in hell am i ever gonna combine two monitors into one output
idle nexus
like can I get a 2.5
devout forum
i'd like to have another/less important program on the second monitor
THIS
For the love of God it's not difficult
elfin mural
the screen borders will annoy me otherwise
paper verge
I mean you're cringe so that makes it even
alr not sure why you say that but sure
idle nexus
now now let's play nice
elfin mural
there's no wrong setups as long as you're not hurting yourself in the process
like vertical arrangements
devout forum
NGL
craggy shoal
I want a vertical arrangement
fervent stump
there's no wrong setups as long as you're not hurting yourself in the process
Yea not sure why he is against every monitor set up
devout forum
Having only one monitor is actually hindering me
fervent stump
I want a vertical arrangement
Like this??
craggy shoal
Man I like that wallpaper too
past lichen
https://a.co/d/67UaIVG
https://a.co/d/1s5aTlM
Thoughts on which one?
craggy shoal
PC on the floor sad
That’s the exact reason why I have a separate table for my PC lol
elfin mural
that arrangement looks like it would hurt my neck
craggy shoal
You get used to it
devout forum
I'm probably gonna put my PC on a wallmount
fervent stump
that arrangement looks like it would hurt my neck
Have the top monitor tilted down a bit
elfin mural
i'd rather horizontal setup
devout forum
Cuz my desk is tiny and the room is space constrained
elfin mural
but that's my view anyway
idle nexus
I have a PSU & two radiators wall mounted but not PC
devout forum
@elfin mural what do you call a sideways T?
fervent stump
Like this??
Also @craggy shoal is flip both monitors so the black line between them is smaller
idle nexus
I want that at the dentist experience
devout forum
|--
craggy shoal
Also <@263791870281383937> is flip both monitors so the black line between them ...
yes
craggy shoal
I've even almost tempted myself to flip my only horizontal monitor upside down just so it's easier to reach the ports (logo would be upside down but idc)
fervent stump
Also I’d have the vertical one on the left
devout forum
I can see a lot of uses for two screens
But it'd take me effort to use three (outside of simracing)
elfin mural
for simracing, uw would do better
the monitor borders annoy the heck outta me
so i can't absolutely combine different monitors into one large view
fervent stump
Just have YT or Netflix on one, games on the main one and discord on the vertical one that’s what I’d do at once
fervent stump
I quite frankly
Would never do ultrawide
Yea me no likey
idle nexus
I had two 27" in portrait with 43" in the middle & tried to span them. the side monitors are 1440p & center is 4k so it never lined up right so I gave up
devout forum
My ideal screen setup is the sideways T
idle nexus
how does my Z590 Unify-X have a BIOS update that came out like 3 days ago lol
craggy shoal
I would only do superultrawide if there was software that came with the monitor to let you customize the aspect ratios (like turning it into two 16:9 monitors instead of using 32:9 all the time, and maybe doing 16:9 in the center and then two 8:9 on the side)
devout forum
Can put a lot of Discord on the left one and game on the right
fervent stump
Pink thermal paste is a thing?
idle nexus
Pink thermal paste is a thing?
liquid metal is a much better thing
devout forum
I guess it's a gril thing
craggy shoal
gril
devout forum
Y'know the very obviously egirl vibe
craggy shoal
lmao
devout forum
Where everything must be pink
fervent stump
liquid metal is a much better thing
Yea but I don’t wanna use it I may break something
fervent stump
Y'know the very obviously egirl vibe
I’m getting pink thermal paste
craggy shoal
normal thermal compound is fine tbh
devout forum
Liquid metal is a little too sketch for me
craggy shoal
bruh I've never heard of pink thermal compound. It's probably some offbrand that's dropshipped from AliExpress
devout forum
It's probably going to be fine
But when it's not fine it's VERY not fine
devout forum
bruh I've never heard of pink thermal compound. It's probably some offbrand that...
I believe Yeston sold some?...
idle nexus
no one will see your thermal paste lol
fervent stump
bruh I've never heard of pink thermal compound. It's probably some offbrand that...
I’m watching a video about thermal paste and he showed blue and pink
fervent stump
no one will see your thermal paste lol
I still want pink
idle nexus
craggy shoal
I only use Thermal Grizzly lol
idle nexus
liquid metal isn't scary
elfin mural
i just wanna use the phase change pads
idle nexus
& if you're worried put conformal compound
elfin mural
i hate repasting
idle nexus
(i.e., clear nail polish)
devout forum
@craggy shoal https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/bwb8nc/why_is_phone_thermal_paste_pink_but_pc_thermal/
devout forum
i just wanna use the phase change pads
PTM7950 FTW
craggy shoal
<@263791870281383937> https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/bwb8nc/why_...
bruh that's way too much 💀
fervent stump
i *hate* repasting
Aren’t there pads or something with paste already
elfin mural
isn't thermal grizzly doing that too
devout forum
What?
idle nexus
I actually have been meaning to install liquid thermal pad on my GPU
elfin mural
yeah
idle nexus
I have it I just don't wanna take loop apart
elfin mural
thermal grizzly debuted phase change pads
devout forum
They're apparently making a PTM equivalent ye
idle nexus
I think honeywell did no?
devout forum
Dunno if it's literally the same thing or just very similar
elfin mural
they probably bought the honeywells and rebranded em
or maybe engineered it themselves
devout forum
I think honeywell did no?
PTM7950 was invented by then ye
idle nexus
linus sells those I think
elfin mural
ill worry bout it later
my laptop is only one year old
it still retains cooling capacity
fervent stump
Where do people find these wallpapers
devout forum
Like stupid high res
elfin mural
high enough to fill in the gaps
devout forum
Like 12000×8000
idle nexus
if monitors are 1080p, not thaaat super high res tho
fervent stump
Oh wow
fervent stump
Where do people find these wallpapers
Where are all the apps and stuff?
devout forum
if monitors are 1080p, not thaaat super high res tho
I mean with everything going on I doubt those are 1080p screwns
idle nexus
lol ya true
elfin mural
icons are removed/hidden
fervent stump
icons are removed/hidden
How do they do stuff like quickly
devout forum
But I'd NEVER be able to get used to hiding them all
elfin mural
well
devout forum
There's a ton of files on my desktop that I regularly use
idle nexus
I prefer putting icons on taskbar
elfin mural
then set everything back after pics have been taken
devout forum
How can you access recycle bin without the desktop icon
fervent stump
I think I’d have like one or two folders on the desktop with mainly everything but very organized just so the wallpaper looks better
devout forum
Like is there a link ho it elsewhere?
elfin mural
idk, maybe by typing it in search bar?
idle nexus
it can be on taskbar. I'm okay with that
elfin mural
"recycle bin"
fervent stump
Can I recycle the recycle bin?
craggy shoal
Can I recycle the recycle bin?
Yeah
idle nexus
craggy shoal
But your system will explode
idle nexus
you can hide it
fervent stump
But your system will explode
How come?
idle nexus
holy heck it's gone
craggy shoal
my desktop
fervent stump
my desktop
:o
idle nexus
how'd you make taskbar seethru?
elfin mural
you can but it'd mess your os up
craggy shoal
how'd you make taskbar seethru?
TranslucentTB (yeah I'm one of those people)
idle nexus
nvm I dunno if I'd want that... seems kinda too tablet/phone like kinda
fervent stump
nvm I dunno if I'd want that... seems kinda too tablet/phone like kinda
How come?
elfin mural
..i may wanna try that
craggy shoal
also yeah I have two web browsers on my taskbar lmao
elfin mural
but idk if i'll like it with roblox
fervent stump
..i may wanna try that
Looks good
elfin mural
it's always windowed every time
idle nexus
looks kinda Ubuntu too I dunno
devout forum
also yeah I have two web browsers on my taskbar lmao
Same kek
I have Opera GX for general use
fervent stump
I have Opera GX for general use
Me too
elfin mural
im a chrome main
devout forum
And Chrome for when I have to access govt sites
elfin mural
but with manifest v3 annoying me
craggy shoal
I might switch to Floorp and ditch Firefox tbh
elfin mural
i might actually use firefox as second browser
devout forum
It's very gamer-y in appearance but it works well for me
fervent stump
What’s the 7900x3d better at?
elfin mural
multi core workloads
devout forum
Now it's far from perfect but nothing ever is
elfin mural
stuff you don't even need for your usage
craggy shoal
I was thinking about getting a 7900X3D but people say to get the 7800X3D. Why?
fervent stump
multi core workloads
How come the 7800x3d is better at gaming than others like the 7950x3d?
elfin mural
ccd latency
craggy shoal
Oh of course
elfin mural
zen 4 has 8 core CCDs
fervent stump
How come the 7800x3d is better at gaming than others like the 7950x3d?
Aren’t both cpu already so good that it’s not like you would see a big difference?
elfin mural
adding above 8 cores would force you to run multiple CCDs
you will see noticeable gaming perf loss
in the form of overall smootbness
games are hella sensitive to latency lmao
craggy shoal
Okay so then what about something like a 7900X or 7950X?
craggy shoal
What about vs a 7800X3D?
fervent stump
Okay so then what about something like a 7900X or 7950X?
Which would be better for gaming of these two?
craggy shoal
Which would be better for gaming of these two?
Probably about the same. If not, then the 7950X just because more cores I'd imagine
fervent stump
Probably about the same. If not, then the 7950X just because more cores I'd imag...
Oh alright
craggy shoal
I want a 7800X3D but it looks slower than my 13700K 🫠
fervent stump
Do you think the 9800x3d would be the next best for gaming or would the 9950x3d be the best for gaming
fervent stump
Do you think the 9800x3d would be the next best for gaming or would the 9950x3d ...
If it’s a thing
elfin mural
9800x3d
because zen 5 still doesn't have 16 core ccd config
epyc gets that tho
because obviously servers
elfin mural
i'd expect 20%
craggy shoal
In performance? Probably not
fervent stump
Oh wait I mean price
elfin mural
9700x is already neck and neck with 7800x3d in games
stock vs stock
and with pbo the 9700x basically closes that gap
that's despite having much less l3 cache
fervent stump
9800x3d and 5080S sounds pretty nice
craggy shoal
It'll probably be just a 5080 this year
elfin mural
ya
craggy shoal
Wait like two years after for Super-series
fervent stump
Oh alright
craggy shoal
Ngl I find Super is just for when Nvidia wants to refresh after people have been complaining about prices
Super series in a nutshell imo
fervent stump
How is the 7900xtx beating the 4090
elfin mural
apex prefers amd iirc
craggy shoal
By a single frame 💀
fervent stump
By a single frame 💀
Still
elfin mural
i'd say that's equal
craggy shoal
Literally a 0.3% increase. You won't see that lol
fervent stump
I’d expect the 4090 to be much higher
elfin mural
for a card that supposedly competes with the 4080s
it's a good sight
well this is 1440p high
craggy shoal
Some games prefer AMD GPUs over Nvidia GPUs, like Forza
fervent stump
well this is 1440p high
Yea
fervent stump
Some games prefer AMD GPUs over Nvidia GPUs, like Forza
I like for a on Xbox
Do you guys like the song I’m listening to
craggy shoal
I like for a on Xbox
I mean I guess
fervent stump
I mean I guess
Idk why I said it like that
craggy shoal
Do you guys like the song I’m listening to
Stopped listening after 5 seconds
fervent stump
I meant to say I like it on Xbox
fervent stump
Stopped listening after 5 seconds
Oh :(
craggy shoal
I’m gonna throw my sister's bike out if she keeps placing it on my bike's derailleur
I swear bruh
Like wtf
fervent stump
I’m gonna throw my sister's bike out if she keeps placing it on my bike's derail...
It can’t be that back
craggy shoal
Bruh
The derailleur is practically the engine of the bike (without counting you as the rider)
fervent stump
The derailleur is practically the engine of the bike (without counting you as th...
Ohhhh
fervent stump
Bruh (yeah messy garage)
What am I looking at 😭
paper verge
Bruh (yeah messy garage)
people with clean garages are mentally ill
mighty hazel
Real
paper verge
unless they have some crazy cars or something very valuable ofc
fervent stump
Good luck with that ig
🥊😀
fervent stump
unless they have some crazy cars or something very valuable ofc
I’d keep mine clean no matter what
craggy shoal
people with clean garages are mentally ill
I think the opposite
I want my garage clean and organized when I get a house
paper verge
I want my garage clean and organized when I get a house
yep i explained why, either way theres a quote about it anyways
craggy shoal
Probably
fervent stump
YAY
craggy shoal
But why would you put that on your computer lol
fervent stump
:D
fervent stump
But why would you put that on your computer lol
Ummmmm
It’s pretty
I’d put it somewhere
nocturne flicker
AMD Inside
lone mango
4090 would absolutely blast thru cs2 at any res
Basically any game that was made by a competent developer that spent time optimizing
elfin mural
real
serene nacelle
yo
wet spindle
yi chat gn
nocturne flicker
Competent developer eh? Guess that is why Starfield still runs bleh
misty sparrow
Make a game that runs well challenge 2024
good thing Alan Wake 2 devs are competent
nocturne flicker
Actually, did they ever fix up Starfield enough to not be turtle on everything? I haven't actually checked in on it. For obvious reasons
velvet summit
AMD Inside
I got that AMD in me
lone mango
good thing Alan Wake 2 devs are competent
i WILL spend $4000 to play at 60 fps and i WILL be happy
misty sparrow
to be fair that game looks so good the requirements actually seem pretty justified
AND they added support for gtx 1000 series cards
mighty hazel
Meanwhile rx580 gets 5 fps
fervent stump
What’s the best steering wheel if I want it to be good
lone mango
Meanwhile rx580 gets 5 fps <:kekw:741678350791081994>
I haven't played it but from what I have seen you just walk around in dim environments with the occasional walk around the town
I guess that is how they get away with it
Yeah it looks good but not that good
I cant tell a difference when you turn on ray tracing except in the town where all the puddles turn into mirrors
mighty hazel
I guess that is how they get away with it
Yeah this game doesn’t get 60 fps on 1080p low on a 4060 even
lone mango
So also a 3060
mighty hazel
Yep
mighty hazel
Fsr
lone mango
fsr 1080p is brutal
mighty hazel
Yeah this game doesn’t get 60 fps on 1080p low on a 4060 even
It gets like 50 usually
With dlss like 70
Or frame gen like 90 I guess?
lone mango
Can you run frame gen without the upscaling or do you need both
grand kernel
what's up with "current voltage" and "family"
fervent stump
Which would be better?
lone mango
what's up with "current voltage" and "family"
you WILL buy a new cpu and you WILL be happy
lone mango
Which would be better?
Both are the same wheel and they both are not good
grand kernel
yes i will buy an i7-2760QM and run it at 1.7 volts
fervent stump
Both are the same wheel and they both are not good
What should I get then?
lone mango
What should I get then?
What you play on
fervent stump
Pc and Xbox
lone mango
How much are those logitechs
fervent stump
How much are those logitechs
First one is 350 and the other is 200
lone mango
Ok for me the 923 is 350, which should be illegal
lone mango
First one is 350 and the other is 200
Get the moza r3. More expensive but way way better
R3 works on xbox
fervent stump
Get the moza r3. More expensive but way way better
What makes it better?
also I would much rather it work on computer than Xbox
lone mango
It is a direct drive wheel, which means the motor in the base that gives you the force feedback is directly attached to the column
The logitech is using literally 20 year old technology that has gears that give feedback
You will hear clunking and banging from the gears and I think it gets worse over time
fervent stump
Alright I’ll look to see the moza r3
lone mango
DD is quieter than belt and gear wheels while providing more nuanced and fine feedback than both
which is more realistic
fervent stump
What’s DD
proud jackal
fervent stump
Short for direct drive
Oh ok
lone mango
Oh ok
Yeah dont fall for the stuff thats like "buy this wheel and upgrade later" Rather you just get the real thing and keep it for a while
fervent stump
Yea I’m like that
craggy shoal
No way this is real 💀
worthy meteor
Arch user
craggy shoal
He made a Reddit account just to ask that question lmao
lone mango
DD is quieter than belt and gear wheels while providing more nuanced and fine fe...
The logitech basically has no feedback when you turn the first couple degrees. when you are on a straight you won't feel anything and when you go over a curb it wont really do much
craggy shoal
I want a DD wheel soooo bad
last mango
speaking of wheels
lone mango
last mango
I have a g920
lone mango
Just leave bruh
craggy shoal
But my 13700K is telling my bank account to budget else how rn
craggy shoal
Just leave bruh
Bruh I’m saying 💀
last mango
HORI Truck Control System for Windows 11/10 with Force Feedback Steering Wheel, Shifter Control Panel, & Pedals https://a.co/d/5rGrb1p
I look forward to this release
lone mango
I want a DD wheel soooo bad
Messed up there aren't many ps options
craggy shoal
Fr :/
lone mango
I think the cheapest dd wheel for ps is the g pro which is 900 for the ps version
craggy shoal
But I really like Gran Turismo
lone mango
Without the sony tax its 800
craggy shoal
There's a Thrustmaster option that's cheaper lol
Logitech isn't the only wheel company
lone mango
I lowkey wanted to get a cammus c5 and use an adapter
But that wheel is kinda sus imo
craggy shoal
I wonder if I could get a Moza wheel and use my adapter with it
lone mango
There's a Thrustmaster option that's cheaper lol
I dont think the thrustmaster was dd but idk their lineup very well
They have a really expensive ps wheel thats around the g pro price but its a belt wheel still
They love their belt wheels
lone mango
I wonder if I could get a Moza wheel and use my adapter with it
Which one you have
lone mango
Oh nah I meant the adapter. Which adapter do you have
lone mango
I’ve had it for like five years now lmao
craggy shoal
I can't find the DD Thrustmaster option I was looking at. It was probably Fanatec 🫠
Expensive
lone mango
I can't find the DD Thrustmaster option I was looking at. It was probably Fanate...
Yeah I didnt say fanatec yet because they are more expensive than the g pro
Its brutal bruh
craggy shoal
Bad financial luck isn't helping me this year bruh. It's like 2020 for me but only me
lone mango
At least the ps wheels are
lone mango
Bad financial luck isn't helping me this year bruh. It's like 2020 for me but on...
The cammus c5 is xi's finest chinesium but at the same time it does show how cheaply you can package a dd wheel
Its actually cheaper than a t300rs and that wheel is a decade old
@fervent stump another dd pro is that they typically smaller than the logitech and thrustmasters. a pro moza has is how easy it is to mount the wheel and the quick disconnect
craggy shoal
Bruh if I could get a Moza wheel and have it work with my Ras1ution that would be soooo perfect
lone mango
you can mount it to your desk so easily because it is small and uses normal clamps
lone mango
Bruh if I could get a Moza wheel and have it work with my Ras1ution that would b...
the ras accepts moza wheels
I wanted to do that but I dont want to spend $5-600 to rely on 3rd party adapters
craggy shoal
the ras accepts moza wheels
To a PS5? :0
lone mango
Doesn't seem right to me. Also doesn't seem right to spend 350 on a t300rs when that wheel came out a decade ago
lone mango
To a PS5? :0
Yeah
lone mango
Doesn't seem right to me. Also doesn't seem right to spend 350 on a t300rs when ...
But ebay will save the day
For now tho ima stick to my weird gyro steering
opaque sedge
Did you keep Skippy or nah
Ofc kept him
last mango
I bet he screams at you once in while
opaque sedge
I bet he screams at you once in while
fervent stump
you can mount it to your desk so easily because it is small and uses normal clam...
Looks great
The only game I’m going to use the wheel in anyways beamng and forza for fun not competitively
grand kernel
Nah wym. It's an Intel CPU
but i don't have an asus motherboard
only asus would send it to 2.0V in search of incredible
craggy shoal
💀💀💀
lone mango
Asus mobo and intel cpu must be brutal man
grand kernel
I saw someone use asus ai oc on a 14900k and it set 1.71v manual lol
lone mango
tranquil pebble
cpu electrocution
mortal grail
Often when anyone uses that feature they've either never looked for more than 10 minutes in a bios or exclusively use ryzen master or xtu
lone mango
I fw ryzen master
grand kernel
in search of explosion
lone mango
craggy shoal
Asus mobo and intel cpu must be brutal man
You better believe it
sinful blade
Who’s familiar with home server/media servers
craggy shoal
Who’s familiar with home server/media servers
Tell me what your question is and I may or may not send you a Let Me Google That For You link
sinful blade
I received this request
And I’m unfamiliar with servers such as these
velvet summit
Which would be better?
i have a g920
you definitely feel the gears
like cloud said, the moza r3 is dd which means you wont feel any grainyness in the wheel and is only slightly more expensive
make sure to grab the brake upgrade though because the moza kit by default has a linear pressure brake, which doesnt feel anything like a real brake
craggy shoal
"Why not Intel?" Go read the news
velvet summit
I received this request
And I’m unfamiliar with servers such as these
dont need something too extreme, you may want a nvidia gpu for the nvenc, but you dont really need anything high end for that
craggy shoal
I want a Moza so bad
unreal trail
just got a decent insurance settlement, buying some Intel stock
craggy shoal
Honestly just get a Ryzen 8000 APU
lone mango
i have a g920
you definitely feel the gears
like cloud said, the moza r3 is dd w...
True but she gonna be playing forza and beam so I don't think she gonna care
velvet summit
i have a structured settlement and i need cash now
velvet summit
True but she gonna be playing forza and beam so I don't think she gonna care
the wheel? or the brakes?