general-chat

[hot pumice]

9900k is always in like 13600k price range tbf

or worse

[mortal grail]

Peak i9 resale moment

[mighty hazel]

It’s only 250 for board and cpu

[hot pumice]

ive seen like one single used 9900k in market here in last 5+ years tbh

[mighty hazel]

But no box

Who tf get rids of the box

[hot pumice]

no one at all is upgrading off 9900k i guess

[mortal grail]

Cos it's still a decent chip

[mighty hazel]

It’s not the dodecahedron box that’s why

Why buy i9 without it smh

[mortal grail]

If you aren't chasing flagships, a 9900K or 10700K will still do high end tier

[hot pumice]

real

[mortal grail]

Wow brainrotted

Mb

[hot pumice]

8c16t skylake is still really solid

[mighty hazel]

Run a 4090 at 4k 🗿

[hot pumice]

plus really fun imc

[mortal grail]

Kind of can tbh

[mighty hazel]

Apparently the difference between a 12400f and 14900k is like 28%

[hot pumice]

in what?

[mighty hazel]

So 9900k isn’t behind either

Gaming

[mortal grail]

Lol what

[hot pumice]

me when i lie

[mighty hazel]

9900k = 12400f or better

[mortal grail]

I think you're making some huge leaps in logic there

[hot pumice]

ddr4 vs ddr5, xmp vs jedec vs manual tune, pcie 3.0 vs 4.0 on 40 series

etc

not to mention OS to OS differences

[mortal grail]

Also 6 vs 8 core

[hot pumice]

that too

[mortal grail]

If there's one thing latencucks have right, a 9900K is a good cpu, but they VASTLY overstate it

[hot pumice]

dont hide the workload bozo

[mortal grail]

I would compare it on terms of like, 12600K

But one or the other depending on tune

And scenario

[hot pumice]

yeah

pain

comparing stuff is always hard

[rancid juniper]

gigahurts

[hot pumice]

so many variables and factors

[mighty hazel]

It’s just gaming

[mortal grail]

11900K is literally next to the 12600K proving my point

There it is again next to 13400

[mighty hazel]

Yeah I mean 11900k was kinda weird

[rancid juniper]

i wonder if i can push my 13600k below 141w in cinebench while retaining 5.2GHZ

i dont think i can undervolt any further

[mortal grail]

11900K wasn't a whole leap ahead of 9900K

[mighty hazel]

9900k = 11700k

[rancid juniper]

11900k is questionable

[mortal grail]

9900K, 10900K, 11900K were all comparable at their peak

[mighty hazel]

Overclocked = big improvement

[mortal grail]

10700K and 11700K join that discussion

[hot pumice]

rkl my beloved

[rancid juniper]

-intel

[mighty hazel]

9900k= 13900k. Galaxy brain moment (for obvious reasons this is a joke)

🗿

[mortal grail]

But you can't write it off

[hot pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/wheniwasolder-gif-23417455

when im in an aida latency competition and my opponent is a 9900k

[mortal grail]

People still using 9th gen now are either poising for an upgrade or aren't playing stock

[rancid juniper]

time to mess with the amperage

brb

[mortal grail]

12700K and 12900K were the first genuine improvements on Intel's side in years

[hot pumice]

real

[mortal grail]

At least as far as the highest end goes

[hot pumice]

alder was a huge jump

[mortal grail]

Even 8700K is somewhat comparable to the older i9's

[hot pumice]

even alder low end was a huge leap tbh

[mortal grail]

Indeed

12400F is so easily compared to a 5600X they may as well be the same thing

9900K is definitely above that

[hot pumice]

alder didnt have any issues either apart from the "hurr durr, videos dont play" thing some utubers reported

[mortal grail]

And DRM

But both were fixed

[hot pumice]

drm?

[mortal grail]

Ya denuvo

Remember they had to turn e cores off?

[hot pumice]

oh yeah

pre-thread scheduler i think?

[mortal grail]

Mmm not too sure on that one

I remember the DRM was triggering as it saw e cores as a ghosted 2nd system or something to that effect

So it would block the user

Sometimes insta banning

[mighty hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305980946664914947/1252584789018411148/image_3.png?ex=66b6a53d&is=66b553bd&hm=c0dd3742050aef59f17d0ccc49524da39356dc413463b0ffaa0a52147954d7c7&

Got this from oc server

[hot pumice]

the world if alder could clock ring without disabling ecores

[mortal grail]

Ah yes from that one guy who specifically only posts these in that server

[mighty hazel]

Yeah

[hot pumice]

is that the usbtypef guy

[mortal grail]

They have so many faces there

Yep

Ding ding

💀

[mighty hazel]

It’s from him yeah

[hot pumice]

i was in a priv server with him an naolitude

i have never seen so many racist images within the span of 30 seconds before

[velvet summit]

ong

[mighty hazel]

Wait wat 💀

Racist? 💀

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-heckin-big-concern-doin-me-a-concern-stiff-astonished-gif-14557794

[mortal grail]

I think I know which server LOL

Poor ralic is all I'll say

[rancid juniper]

lol whats going on?

[mortal grail]

[mighty hazel]

Lagger server?

[hot pumice]

RALICX JOINED?

[mortal grail]

Oh is it not cache

Ah nvm then

[craggy shoal]

lmao what

[hot pumice]

i own cACHE

[mighty hazel]

So it’s lagger server

[mortal grail]

Do u?

[hot pumice]

or wait

no nvm

[mortal grail]

Oh wow small world

[mighty hazel]

LAG?

[mortal grail]

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-margin-awake-marginskyrim-gif-20155428

[hot pumice]

i basically own cACHE

[mortal grail]

Let me reintroduce myself

Hi I'm felix 😂

[spark halo]

Ah huh.

[hot pumice]

hi im rissy

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-thats-a-damn-lie-and-you-know-it-gif-7563099348111511780

[mighty hazel]

Tf 💀

[hot pumice]

i like overclockimng ram and am autistic (mutually inclusive)

[mighty hazel]

Oh

It’s a cat

[mortal grail]

Oh wait you know who I'm thinking of in cache

Mando

[mighty hazel]

Thought it was some ai image xD

[velvet summit]

the... silhouette looks like a cat ☠️

[hot pumice]

i think we banned him

[mortal grail]

LOL

[hot pumice]

coz he kept posting some brainrot stuff

[mighty hazel]

💀

[mortal grail]

Bro loved his proart

[mighty hazel]

What’s cache

[mortal grail]

Couldn't handle hearing an XTX was faster in raster

[mighty hazel]

Is it like Lagger server

[mortal grail]

It be cache

[spark halo]

Are you okay…

[mighty hazel]

So no ones in LAGGER server

[hot pumice]

cACHE

[mortal grail]

Idk if I even want to be tbh

[craggy shoal]

give me a link to that lagger server rq

[mighty hazel]

I was in another server where they said framechasers has best tweaks

[mortal grail]

Can't

You'll get moderatered

Give links in dm if you do

[spark halo]

The cache is broken.

[mighty hazel]

And that if you use 1440 144hz “you’re poor”

[hot pumice]

i got banned from some latency server a few years ago for posting a 7800x rig lol

[hot pumice]

as in i7 7800x

[mighty hazel]

It’s very gate kept 💀

[mortal grail]

For just that?\

[hot pumice]

yeah

they got really mad coz hedt bad

[mighty hazel]

I’m jk u could probably get it from google

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/ray-liotta-laughing-happy-lol-gif-15802525

[mighty hazel]

Disboard or something

[mortal grail]

That's such a weird take

[mighty hazel]

3770k best latency

[mortal grail]

It's still monolithic skylake

Like, 9900K?

[hot pumice]

should take tr there next time

[mortal grail]

💀

[mortal grail]

1st gen specifically

[hot pumice]

[mortal grail]

pair it with ML gpu

[mighty hazel]

Bruh I searched for the discord inv and it shows this 💀

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/enhance-gif-10953787

[hot pumice]

evil pc

[mighty hazel]

“Best furry server” 💀

[hot pumice]

of what

[mortal grail]

What in the hell are you lot doing in there

[buoyant kraken]

https://www.wikihow.com/images/6/62/Post-a-Forum-on-Gaia-Online-Step-1.jpg

[mighty hazel]

Lagger server

[mighty hazel]

No I’m not in any furry servers 💀

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-professor-hubert-farnsworth-eyes-gif-3592844138789763180

Pfft

[mortal grail]

Ur pfp doesn't lend confidence

[hot pumice]

this is a tech server, statistically 75% of people in chat must be furries

[sinful blade]

Anyone got any crayons

[mighty hazel]

💀😭😭

No

[sinful blade]

I lost my red one

[spark halo]

Only popcorn flavored.

[sinful blade]

[nocturne flicker]

75%? Too low

[mortal grail]

Fr, if newegg server went down half of America would experience cloudstrike again

[mighty hazel]

Before that it was doge pfp so that doesn’t help either 💀💀

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[mortal grail]

Although tbf

[sinful blade]

Man
I gotta get a pc soon

[mortal grail]

If PCMR server went down

[sinful blade]

My controller batteries need swapped out every like 6 hours:/

[mortal grail]

The world would experience an economy boom

[mighty hazel]

What makes the link between furries and tech 🤔🤨

[spark halo]

Tbh dying of laughter in the background

[mighty hazel]

I think it’s a psyop

[nocturne flicker]

World peace and the end of hunger

[mortal grail]

Fun fact, we've technically solved the world hunger crisis, if we fix logistics and distribution

[sinful blade]

Don’t forget ending racism

[nocturne flicker]

That is part of the peace

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-not-smart-man-forrest-gump-tom-hanks-gif-4496013

[nocturne flicker]

We all come together and hold hands while singing We Shall Overcome

[sinful blade]

STO LOAD FASTER PLEASE TY

I need to get my character into space

[mortal grail]

Try throwing the character up there

[spark halo]

However we lack the supply lines to deliver said food in a timely manner

[mortal grail]

Yes, logistics and distribution

[spark halo]

Exactly

[mortal grail]

We produce enough to feed 10 billion comfortably

[sinful blade]

I don’t think that’s within Star Trek lore

[mortal grail]

i.e not overfed

No obesity in question

Everyone on a balanced portion

Or ig for better word "Fair" portion

[mighty hazel]

Wait don’t u buy pc parts from FBMP like almost daily

And flip them

[sinful blade]

No

I just do customer builds

I don’t profit:(

[mighty hazel]

Ah

Oh I see

No profit prebuilt seller. Thats very rare

Most add like 300 on top

[sinful blade]

I don’t really want to profit

It’s just not right to me

[nocturne flicker]

Hey man, if it is affordable and the taste and texture isn't vomit inducing I'd be up for anything. Gib nutrition paste

[spark halo]

And how long have you been doing this?

[sinful blade]

Like you’re gatekeeping an already expensive to get into hobby

[mighty hazel]

Or 600+ and call it “fortnite gaming pc.RGB NVIDIA GTX+ I7 !” 💀

[sinful blade]

Not very long

[mortal grail]

Space food fr

[sinful blade]

I only started shortly after I joined here lmao

[spark halo]

Was going to say sustainability may come into question long term

[nocturne flicker]

Make it the nutrition cubes from classic Doctor Who or whatever it was

[mighty hazel]

And it turns out to be like a 1st gen i7 and a gtx 650 or 1650

[sinful blade]

I build list, they pay upfront, I build, they get shipped

Or met

[nocturne flicker]

Small cubes that taste like specific flavors

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/glasses-gif-26734335

[mortal grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/835557783621337139/1271215327631511749/unnamed_9.webp?ex=66b68708&is=66b53588&hm=721763a88dd6e8fa95601a5d550426aa964a70b8fdfaeef90a641f720f48c260&

[mighty hazel]

💀

The snoopa too

[spark halo]

Pffft

At least its not kensy

[nocturne flicker]

Wait no it wasn't cubes, they were bars

https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Food_bar

Those things

Free food bars

[spark halo]

Cubes were in wally

[nocturne flicker]

Those were trash cubes

[spark halo]

Was it nutrition paste?

[nocturne flicker]

Nah it was junk foods

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/walk-away-im-out-gif-27669704

[nocturne flicker]

Pizza slushies and stuff

[spark halo]

See even spongebob doesnt know

[nocturne flicker]

Think one of the last lines is the captain thinking pizza grows on plants

[spark halo]

Idk tbh

[nocturne flicker]

'S why everyone was fat. They ate junkfood and were perma confined to floating chairs

Wall-e wasn't exactly subtle after all

[spark halo]

Wall-e was indeed unhinged

[mighty hazel]

Damn Ryan gosling is like around my parents age

I thought he was a lot younger

[silver sparrow]

im so dissapointed in the motherboard options for am5

like why do they all look so bad

[nocturne flicker]

If they have good specs and decent prices, looks don't matter to me

[silver sparrow]

i mean yeah, but with the 011 dynamic its kinda of a showcase type thing, and id like to be able to showcase a very nice motherboard

like this is my current motherboard

[mortal grail]

Taichi carrara does not

You take that back

Heathen

[silver sparrow]

im talking more black build motherboards

[nocturne flicker]

Everything ever looks bad 😐

[icy ore]

https://youtu.be/LwwO8Nx3XF4?si=vJPxwOBvaFf-0UW4

Man this looks so good

[nocturne flicker]

Bring back green pcbs to remind people how bad things can look

[silver sparrow]

otherwise i would pick this, cause its got decent looks

the black version is way too pricey for what it is, and white looks way better on this design

[dusk knot]

What the

[silver sparrow]

litterally 60$ more for black

[mortal grail]

Strix is overrated

[silver sparrow]

like ah yes let me just pay 300$ for a b650

[mortal grail]

Asus in general is plain terrible for AM5 unless you get the Gene and have no end to cash

Quite literally nothing Asrock or GB don't give better options for

[silver sparrow]

i got my motherboard off of ebay lol

it was dirt cheap

[mortal grail]

I will also add

Every strix am5 owner I've talked to regret their choice

Now this is a grand total of 3 people

But that's a lot considering it's a mobo

💀

[silver sparrow]

i mean look at i... its just so bland... for 300$

[mortal grail]

If you want a nice looking, good AM5 board, go get a PG riptide or Taichi lite

Or aorus

[silver sparrow]

imo taichi lite looks tacky

[mortal grail]

It's the best board for AM5 period

That would go to the gene but the gene is the same less 2 dimm slots for ~$500 more

Like this i/o is insane

[velvet summit]

i need this

either this or i need to buy more usb hubs because im out of usb ports

[mortal grail]

It's barely better than the X670 Gaming X v2

[fervent stump]

meow~

[silver sparrow]

i can fix it

watch me

[fervent stump]

Huh what’s that?

[silver sparrow]

thats a bent LGA pin

[fervent stump]

Oh that sucks

[silver sparrow]

its a ebay listing

[fervent stump]

Oh

What happens if you rip it off will it still work?

[silver sparrow]

rog crosshair x670 e hero, for like 180

[mortal grail]

Nope

[silver sparrow]

only catch being... bent cpu pin

which is like a huge gamble

[velvet summit]

well

depends on the pin?

[fervent stump]

But I though a cpu didn’t NEED every ping to work

[velvet summit]

some are very necessary

[silver sparrow]

considering they are selling it, it must be a important pin

[fervent stump]

How do you bend a random pin in the middle anyways?

[velvet summit]

tools

[silver sparrow]

very slowly tediously and once you break it, just snap the motherboard in half by that point

[fervent stump]

How sensitive is a cpu everyone said that they break easily

[opaque sedge]

Guys stupid question is it normal for games to crash after 10 hours of consecutive play?

[fervent stump]

And you have to be very careful

[silver sparrow]

i mean not instantly, if it breaks then just shove the cpu in the socket after removing the broken off pin and see if it boots

[mortal grail]

Some pins have redundancy, but that doesn't remove the function at all

[opaque sedge]

(I definitely didn’t play cyberpunk for 10 hours nonstop till it crashed)

[velvet summit]

i mean

they're both not very easy to break and also very easy to break

[mortal grail]

I kinda doubt a central pin will not be essential

[velvet summit]

the pins are the most fragile part

[silver sparrow]

ah yes the ryzen 4070 equivelent to a motherboard

[fervent stump]

Am5 though the cpu pins are on the motherboard

[velvet summit]

yeah

[fervent stump]

So I’m chilling?

[velvet summit]

but the pins on the mobo are generally more fragile

because they tend to be smaller

[fervent stump]

Oh :c

[velvet summit]

than pga

it's cheaper to replace a mobo than a good cpu though

[opaque sedge]

I had the same worry when i was assembling lol

Even dropped the cpu once

[fervent stump]

Yea

[mortal grail]

These all look essential 💀

[opaque sedge]

The cover was still on thankfully in the socket

[fervent stump]

Should I get a matx or atx since one has less ssd spots

[mortal grail]

Am pretty sure for 180 that board won't boot without that pin

[silver sparrow]

not this mobo 💀

[opaque sedge]

Imagine I accidentally bent one of those when assembling and now its biting me back by crashing cyberpunk after playing non stop for 10 hours

[velvet summit]

there are atx boards with less m.2 slots than some matx boards

[silver sparrow]

its more 600$

but still

[opaque sedge]

Ok crap

[mortal grail]

That's probably more cyberpunk

[opaque sedge]

Now i wanna take a look

[velvet summit]

who buying their pc parts from walmart

[opaque sedge]

Damn not me playing it for 10 hours straight?

[silver sparrow]

mothers trying to get little timmy a pc

[fervent stump]

What wow

[mortal grail]

No

[silver sparrow]

little timmy insists that he can build it himself ( he cant )

[opaque sedge]

Good to know

[velvet summit]

i mean

[spark halo]

Aww how adorable, is he also going to pay for it when it blows up in his face

[mortal grail]

Paperweight at that price btw

[opaque sedge]

Cyberpunk is apparently so buggy that having a quest item in your inventory apparently craps out ur save file 💀

[velvet summit]

what kinda mother would know what parts are compatible but not know that a $700 mobo is a bad deal

[silver sparrow]

see i would love to get one of these for cheap

g o a l s

[opaque sedge]

Apparently was the case when phantom liberty just released

[spark halo]

Also in other news my cpu after 8 years is finally being laid to rest

[mortal grail]

You say that like mothering isn't a full time job

[fervent stump]

This one has 2 right? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w3dG3C/gigabyte-b650m-aorus-elite-ax-ice-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-aorus-elite-ax-ice

[opaque sedge]

That thing looks like its designed to make volcanoes known as intel cpus into supernova stars

Nvm its am5

[spark halo]

After today i gathered some disturbing data, after it shut down it clocked at 74c internal temp for cpu

[velvet summit]

why you asking me, you have the page up, just look at the specs

[opaque sedge]

Looks very rectangular ngl

[fervent stump]

Oh yea it has 2

[spark halo]

Like im using a peerless assassin on a 2700x and clocking 74c at emergancy shutdown

[fervent stump]

What’s the difference between memory slot and m.2 slot

[velvet summit]

memory is ram

[silver sparrow]

tbh if i can find one for sub 400 id consider getting it

[fervent stump]

Ohhhhhh yea I’m used to the word ram

[velvet summit]

random access memory

same name as that daft punk album

well, in the case of daft punk, it's random access memories

i have the vinyls

[fervent stump]

That’s cool!

[spark halo]

Like what do I have to start watercooling my 2700x

Is this the next step here

[mortal grail]

Imo best looking AM5

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-agreed-hmm-gif-27306034

[mortal grail]

Also comes with a reasonable price

[spark halo]

Am listening

[mortal grail]

$210

BTF

[spark halo]

Hmm

But it doesnt solve my cooling issue

[mortal grail]

When was cooling in this discussion

[silver sparrow]

i just want some flare RGB on the motherboard, and a cool design

[mortal grail]

You were looking at a 180 hero board with a bent pin

[mortal grail]

That doesn't fix cooling either

[spark halo]

What?

[silver sparrow]

that was me

not them

[mortal grail]

Oh oops

[spark halo]

Lol

[mortal grail]

Similar colour names

[spark halo]

Jesus i feel insulted

[mortal grail]

Hey can one of you like

upgrade rank for me

💀

[silver sparrow]

i have no issues with cooling B)

IM TRYING

[mortal grail]

Thermalright got u

[silver sparrow]

im 5 levels away 😭

[spark halo]

Explain

[mortal grail]

Frozen edge, Phantom Spirit >>>>>

Both OP af

[silver sparrow]

give me like 20 more days of activity and i might get 2 levels :(

[north crescent]

give me like 1 more year of activity and i might get 1 level

[spark halo]

And what are you using

[silver sparrow]

with liquid metal cause why not

[mortal grail]

@spark halo https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MzMMnQ/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se-argb
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BRMMnQ/thermalright-phantom-spirit-evo-69-cfm-cpu-cooler-phantom-spirit-120-evo
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bMyH99/thermalright-frozen-edge-69-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-fe240-black
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6Hn9TW/thermalright-frozen-edge-69-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-fe360-black

Frost commander too

Frozen warframe if you want an lcd

If you can find one ofc

[silver sparrow]

i still havent cleaned out my rad, but its not like i have a reason to, im no where near reaching high temps to even be motivated to do so

[mortal grail]

But warframe is often like, $110-ish usd

Competes with the best and has an LCD

[silver sparrow]

if i was running intel on the other hand

[mortal grail]

Phantom spirit OP

[silver sparrow]

i lowkey wanna do custom water cooling one day...

[mortal grail]

I'm moving off watercooling

It's a pain to work with

[silver sparrow]

i would like to do it in a way thats "serviceable"

[mortal grail]

Current gen equipment doesn't need it

Heh

I use ZMT soft tube

I'm as serviceable as it gets

You still get issues that require full disassembly

[silver sparrow]

well more in terms of dust clean out, like removeable filter type stuff

[mortal grail]

That's just an airflow problem

[silver sparrow]

or just submerge it in mineral oil

[mortal grail]

Build airflow properly in an o11D and it all filters through the bottom

I have next to no dust in mine, my problem is the loop issues

[silver sparrow]

what kind of fan settup you running for it?

[mortal grail]

P12's

They spend 99% of the time at under 600 rpm

[silver sparrow]

like in terms of push pull settup

[mortal grail]

3 rads push pull

If I was smarter at the time it would be 1 thick 360

[silver sparrow]

i need to fix my settup cause, im straight up exhausting all my heat through my rad

[mortal grail]

If it's top mounted that's normal

[silver sparrow]

its side mounted

[mortal grail]

Intake to top exhaust

[silver sparrow]

yeah so i intake from bottom, exhaust out the side, and i still have no top fans

[mortal grail]

O11 uses a chimney layout so top exhaust is always the answer

[silver sparrow]

once i routed 6 fans with 12 cables, i decided it best to not go insane trying to add another 6 cables

[mortal grail]

This is why I picked P12's specifically

Cos O11+cables is bloody painful

[silver sparrow]

when i did my gpu swap from the 3070 to the 7900xtx, i had to swap my bottom fans to intake instead of exhaust

( i did not have a optimal airflow settup at all, i just wanted to see pretty fan colors)

the bottom fans starved the 7900xtx of any cooling and i hit thermal limits FAST

[mortal grail]

You can buy cheap thermalright reverse fans if you want pretty colours

C12RB-S V2
C12C-S
Go together to make a pairing of forward and reverse

S12 also has reverse

[silver sparrow]

but what about lianli uni fans

[spark halo]

Idk after i seen thermaltake do nothing for me

[mortal grail]

I think M12

[mortal grail]

Disgustingly valued

[spark halo]

Im going to corsair

[mortal grail]

I boxed off my Unifans

They were annoying af to use

Things unifan owners don't talk about

1. Price. Never talk price

2. Cable lengths are absurdly short

3. Earlier models in particular orient only one way

4. L connect is painfully slow and bloaty

[silver sparrow]

look, i mean its only 76$ for a 3 pack

[mortal grail]

Yeah 76 right

They're as bad as 92mm fans

[velvet summit]

colourblind

[mortal grail]

On top of that those in particular are the ones with the most issues

[velvet summit]

i'd rather buy noctuas at that point

[mortal grail]

The thermalrights I'm suggesting can do all those noctuas can and look just as good

And cost $5 per fan

[silver sparrow]

bro im very familiar with spending crap loads of money for aesthetics

[mortal grail]

Well you know

I have in a box packed away behind me 22 AL120's

I am extremely familiar with unifans

I do not recommend

[spark halo]

Litterally going to rip my peerless assassins apart and add them to my case fans

[mortal grail]

Excessively painful to work with

[silver sparrow]

pov you spent around like 100 some odd dollars for LL 120's from corsair

[mortal grail]

Yeah I'm familiar with LL's as well

Unifans are no better

[silver sparrow]

what are other fans like the uni fan

[mortal grail]

Thermalright M12

https://www.thermalright.com/product/tl-m12-s/

$7 per fan

Look, unifan clones

💀

And they actually perform

[silver sparrow]

dam those look neat

[mortal grail]

Imagine the look on Lian Li's face when they saw Thermalright were producing the same $3 fan and selling it for 7 and not 30

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/novela-telenovela-shocked-zoom-omg-gif-25795602

[mortal grail]

On top of that they don't perform like 92mm, they perform more like proper 120's

No silly tricks like expanding the frame depth by 5mm to make up for a skill issue, no they just did a better job period

[silver sparrow]

but they dont link like uni fans

[mortal grail]

And? The link feature is a meme

They have daisy chain cables

The link feature is the entire reason I stopped using unifans

[silver sparrow]

cable routing is my nightmare

[mortal grail]

Unifans don't fix this

They give you a new problem

You now need your unifans to reach the controller in the case

And the cables they give are a standard short length from one side

💀

So you get this terrible cable stretching and the controller fits in only one spot

[silver sparrow]

i already have one controller in my case for lianli, im using the 3x 8pin cable, and i already use their software for it

[mortal grail]

Missing the point

[silver sparrow]

is there a way to extend these cables

[mortal grail]

The cables unifans give from the connector are hilariously short

No

[silver sparrow]

is there a version of it that has longer cables?

[mortal grail]

You could spend a bunch on extensions, but then you have a new problem???

All that extra cable is suddenly back

[silver sparrow]

yeah but thats easy to bundle and then just use like a twist tie on it

its not a thousand wires

its just one lanky one

[mortal grail]

The fix for this is usb, and corsair sells this as proprietary for a fortune on terribly performing fans

Trust me, it's not better

I tried, spent a fortune, got the scars

The best cheap solution is daisy chain and Thermalright provides that in spades

[silver sparrow]

the only real thing that these thermalright fans will do for me, is have me find a space to shove all the daisychained RGB cables, instead of running them all to a controller

[mortal grail]

And instead you have a taught spider web of extremely short unifan cables running to one specific spot in an o11 case in the back

💀

It's not better

They ruin it with cable length

And there's nothing else about them that redeem them functionally

[silver sparrow]

like as is, ive managed my rats nest pretty well, i would just like less fan cables, especially since id be getting 3 more fans on top of what i run right now if im doing a fan upgrade

[mortal grail]

That's not even full rats nest yet

[silver sparrow]

this was before the triple 8 pin

[mortal grail]

Just getting started lad

I have zero space whatsoever back there with all the watercooling involved

Look, I've said my piece, if it's not enough to convince, I won't lose sleep over it

My personal suggestion is, the gimmick on unifans wears off really quick

I'd do the M12's

[silver sparrow]

hmmm

also this was after i fixed it from a actual rats nest

rats nest in question

[craggy shoal]

mmm rats nest

[mortal grail]

Still not at my tier yet

[craggy shoal]

yummy

[mortal grail]

💀

So much leftover space

[craggy shoal]

lmao

[mortal grail]

This is the O11 life

You think it be different for others, no

It gets different WHEN you buy cablemod replacements

[silver sparrow]

also rate the airflow on the 3070

[mortal grail]

Until that point, they're all nests

[mortal grail]

Sag/10

[silver sparrow]

who needs a sag bracket when it touches the botton of the case already

honestly i could just put a lego brick in there as a sag bracket XD

[mortal grail]

That's impressive considering you have 5mm or so on the left

[craggy shoal]

bro I'm dumbfounded at that airflow

[mortal grail]

Sag is what kills ampere the fastest so would suggest it

[silver sparrow]

time to visit my local lego store to pick up a bracket

[mortal grail]

💀

[silver sparrow]

this pc was running a 1070, which was upgraded to a 3070 when i got my 7900xtx

i was so dumbfounded it actually fit

also no thermal issues to date, but also the gpu cooler was already so overbuilt the fans like never turned on anyways

[mortal grail]

Not surprised

Since FTW3 cooler gets reused several times in EVGA's stack

[fervent stump]

Price?

[mortal grail]

210

[silver sparrow]

honestly though the entire idea of gettting 3 new sets of 3 fans to make everything finally be the same type is very tempting

espically considering how cheap it would be for the m12

@mortal grail would it be wise to move my rad to the top

[mortal grail]

I believe TR also ships controllers with the 3 packs

So it's able to be streamlined

[mortal grail]

Wouldn't make a whole difference if you aren't near TJmax

More a dust thing

You want to intake all but the rear and top

Side can be opted for exhaust but depends on the cooling

[silver sparrow]

i cant mount fans on the rear tho

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah the old o11 didn't have the mounts

[silver sparrow]

not that i would want to anyways

that would look funky

[mortal grail]

I do on mine

The exhaust does a lot there honestly

Huge amount of heat

[silver sparrow]

i mean a drill bit goes a long way

[mortal grail]

Well with that noted then, top only exhaust

Side bottom intake

[sinful blade]

One of the weirdest possible things I’ve ever seen in gaming

Is when Pontiac(the car company) sponsored an “Army of Two” dlc to promote their 2009 Pontiac Vibe by giving a few maps free of charge to players.

[mortal grail]

Was normal back then

Car games often have free dlc for sponsorships

Forza was renowned for this

[sinful blade]

Nonono

It wasn’t a car game

At all

[mortal grail]

Ik

In the same way pizza hut wasn't a game company but they gave away full AAA games years back with certain deals

[silver sparrow]

army of 2 brings back good times

i remember playing that, it was so much fun

[sinful blade]

It’s servers are offline

But you can do local coop

I played the heck out of army of two

Smacking rio in the back of the head was my thing

[fervent stump]

Oh

[sweet phoenix]

You've seen mine I think

It isn't pretty

Nor is the front cable management, yet it is better than the last build I did

[mortal grail]

O11 is just really good at making bad look worse

When it's really a lot better than it seems

[craggy shoal]

Felix really doesn't like the O11

[mortal grail]

No?

[sinful blade]

Felix loves the o11

[craggy shoal]

Felix loves to hate on the O11

[mortal grail]

I've owned 3 of them now and I comprehensively don't like them

Like today's discussion I couldn't have more experience with even if I tried

[silver sparrow]

kinda wanna get one of the o11 clones that have come out and just do a new am5 build with it

[mortal grail]

💀

[sinful blade]

Throw them out the window

[mortal grail]

King 95 >

[craggy shoal]

Like a Montech?

[mortal grail]

Montech is goated af

[craggy shoal]

Bruh Montech is actually nice

[sinful blade]

Go get one of these

https://www.amazon.com/SEGOTEP-Gank-360-RGB-Compatible/dp/B0CTKWJ4T8

Be a terrible person with terrible choices with me:D

[mortal grail]

The things you get with their cases make them so worth it

Though tbh the Dan A3 feels like a genuine improvement over the o11

[silver sparrow]

well more of the 011 inspired type cases like the Y60

[mortal grail]

Y60 is terrible

Y60 and Y40 both

[silver sparrow]

but it looks so nice

[sinful blade]

Isn’t the y70 the one with the screen

The disgusting screen

[mortal grail]

Your XTX will bake in either of them

[craggy shoal]

I want a Hyte idc what Felix says

[sinful blade]

[mortal grail]

Y70 fixes the temp issues by being forced to make a 4 slot version to fit new GPUs

But has a new problem being 170+

So terrible value

Go get a sky two

Sky two is better in all ways

[silver sparrow]

price really hasnt been a huge issue for me TBH, i do pc building as a fun little hobby, and i work construction, 170 looks like just a average day purchase for me

[mortal grail]

Well when I give people advice I cater it to the masses, not the 1%

So

My opinion won't shift lol

[silver sparrow]

litterally bought a 2 stick kit of ram for like 170

[sinful blade]

That’s like a 3 day debate mentally for me

[silver sparrow]

32gb ddr4 cl16 3600mhz back in the peak days of ddr4

[sinful blade]

Then again
I’m sitting at $0.08 rn

[silver sparrow]

that ram kit is like 70$ now

[mortal grail]

Not sure how you lose vs something like an XT view really

[silver sparrow]

i wanna pick up another one

[sinful blade]

XT view best view

[silver sparrow]

this pc will turn into a server pc eventually so i will in fact use the ram

[mortal grail]

$84 and you get a Y40 that actually works

With 3 fans (Omg)

And BTF compatibility

For things like, Project zero

[silver sparrow]

also to be fair, i dont wish to look like a rich mf who just spends cash on whatever i want. i dont think i make a ton of money imo 19 /hr, i just budget a ton for expensive things i like

[mortal grail]

Not ATX? It's ok, they have one

I say again, I don't recommend those Hyte cases

If I want premium I'd go Antec or Phanteks nowadays

NV5 >>>>

Antec C series

[silver sparrow]

yucky

that looks awful

[mortal grail]

Those things actually look like they're for tomorrow not today

[silver sparrow]

is there any "good" pc cases that look something like this nowadays

[mortal grail]

Want an O11 that's actually better and won't break your bank? Hi, it's Antec here

[fervent stump]

I don’t wanna look rich but I’m saving up so it looks great for myself

[craggy shoal]

I forgot about Antec lol

[rancid juniper]

Aztec

[mortal grail]

Hi there, wood meshify clone

Maybe the lite™️?

How about their Y40

[silver sparrow]

C8 looks good

[sinful blade]

Antec has some nice looking cases

[mortal grail]

NV5 says hello at $100

People VASTLY overstate what quality means with a price tag in the pc space

You have all these underdogs coming out

Jonsbo is another one

SAMA

I LOVE recommending those two

Actually great cases

[fervent stump]

I think I this is good it comes with 7 fans for 110

[mortal grail]

Yes it is

They're trying to compete with montech

Montech started this trend

[fervent stump]

Why don’t people recommend this

[mortal grail]

Cos people forget

[craggy shoal]

because people forget about Antec

[fervent stump]

It’s cheap I think for what you get

[silver sparrow]

if i do vertical mount the gpu, my lianli strimmer would seem to be hard to make look good

[craggy shoal]

There's so many new builders that I doubt anybody even knows about Antec anymore lol

[mortal grail]

I've never seen a vertically mounted strimer combo that looks good

[craggy shoal]

well that tells me not to get a Strimer then

[mortal grail]

You vertically mount to show off the GPU, then it's either hide the cable or slap it in front of the fan and raise eyebrows

[silver sparrow]

i mean also at the same time, my gpu would look better not being vertically mounted TBH

[fervent stump]

Would this be good with a vertical gpu

[craggy shoal]

Extension cables it is then

[mortal grail]

Like this is what you get

[silver sparrow]

t-

i need bleach

where is it

[mortal grail]

Otherwise it's this

Or 💀

This ☠️

[fervent stump]

Me no like cables

[craggy shoal]

yo that's my GPU. only mine is bigger ;)

[silver sparrow]

you know, id prefer this over any of the other mounting options

at least i could use it

[mortal grail]

It's right over your rgb ram tho

[silver sparrow]

oh

[mortal grail]

☠️

[silver sparrow]

YEAH BUT DDR5 HAS CRAP MEMORY ANYWAYS

imo they all look bad

[mortal grail]

DDR5 doesn't change the location

Also

Blades

Blades all rock

[velvet summit]

if hyte does a hololive collab with ceres fauna i'd buy immediately

[silver sparrow]

you aint beating this ram

[mortal grail]

Yes I am

[silver sparrow]

nuh uh

[mortal grail]

Mine delidded themselves

[craggy shoal]

I need RGB memory

[mortal grail]

Not hard to beat

Fun playing a game only to get a heart attack from the loud crash of two aluminum glued pieces and plastic insert

[silver sparrow]

the trident z neo has just that specific look to them that just make me never want to get another set of ram in my life

[mortal grail]

Why is it that Oloy can do what g.skill couldn't

[silver sparrow]

i will litterally figure out a way to transfer the entire shell of it to a ddr5 kit before i switch to a different design

[mortal grail]

Not hard to do

You just need to delid 2 sets

[craggy shoal]

because oloy said yolo and put their budget in the wrong place

[mortal grail]

Swap the sinks around

[mortal grail]

They sell the best bins on the planet for ram bar Galax

They did not 💀

[craggy shoal]

oh lol

[silver sparrow]

that looks futuristic, neat looking, but not the type of style i like tbh

[craggy shoal]

I remember they weren't great at making DDR4 lol

[mortal grail]

What they look like with the rgb off

Yes the gold glows

[silver sparrow]

i love transparent ram

[craggy shoal]

bro doesn't have any critical thinking skills

[silver sparrow]

?

[craggy shoal]

it's a mirror

bruh

[silver sparrow]

yeah i know, mirrors refelect, they arent transparent and prefectly match up to the stick behind them

ur mom

[velvet summit]

the... image is mirrored lmao

[mortal grail]

I think if I had to pick 3 favourites for DDR5 RGB

Klevv cras XR5

T-force delta

[silver sparrow]

o

reversed text

[mortal grail]

And

Adata blade

[velvet summit]

there's only text on one side of the ram stick as well

[mortal grail]

I think

Oloy is nice but it's hard to match to a build if it's not full colour

The rgb is something else tho

Amongst the best I've seen

[silver sparrow]

see designs like this is what id be after, not exactly a z neo look, but close enough

[mortal grail]

Klevv cras and deltas have the most smooth looking rgb

From my experience

No hotspots, a genuine bar

[silver sparrow]

brb getting these

[mortal grail]

Z5's take everything that was wrong with Z's and make it worse

The RGB looks fine, the heatsink big, sounds good right?

They still glue them on

So it ruins the whole point

[rancid juniper]

alright the cpu is mid, im returning

smh

[mortal grail]

XPG Lancers are much nicer quality than G.Skill imo

[sinful blade]

My first ram was oloy
They were nice

[silver sparrow]

yeah but are you realisticly spending 140$ on a ram kit just so it can perform good? or do you just want the looks cause its a royal series kit of ram thats just expensive cause it looks fancy

[mortal grail]

Ya my first oloys were amazing

[fervent stump]

https://youtube.com/shorts/b45N3rE5Tds?si=o53vJl2P5k9ngB_B

[sinful blade]

32GB of ddr3 1333mhz

[mortal grail]

I want my ram to work

[velvet summit]

i mean, you'd probably expect both

[mortal grail]

I don't enjoy sticking my DDR5 Z5's in, and getting hot temps at jedec yo

[silver sparrow]

yeah

[rancid juniper]

not even 1600mhz

[mortal grail]

I own Z5's so

I'm not unfamiliar to them

I've owned or used most DDR5 heatsinks or dies

[velvet summit]

depends on the card
i have an old card with a similar sized fan with a copper heatsink

[somber skiff]

I blowdryer test my AHBD to 80C, git gud

[velvet summit]

or at least copper coloured

[fervent stump]

Copper is cool

[velvet summit]

was some windows 95 or smth system

i have no clue anymore because the hdd is shot

[mortal grail]

No longer AGBD?

[velvet summit]

it makes screeching noises

[mortal grail]

Lol

[fervent stump]

Oh

[somber skiff]

Different IC

[fervent stump]

I somehow hit 20 dm requests just now

[silver sparrow]

NGL i actually do like the looks of the ddr5 z royal, makes the ddr4 z royal look tacky

[nocturne flicker]

24gb of 2400mhz DDR3

[velvet summit]

just dont answer anything and it's easy

[mortal grail]

Got a new one?

[fervent stump]

I haven’t

Plus some are weird

[velvet summit]

somebody asked me for help in davinci resolve and i havent replied in like a week

☠️

[mortal grail]

This might take the crown for weirdest looking

Up shot is it's functional while being weird

[nocturne flicker]

Each stick weighs a pound

[silver sparrow]

again wheres the bleach

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah I forgot about these

These are ok

[silver sparrow]

clean

[mortal grail]

Aorus is always clean

[silver sparrow]

2 stick would look way better than 4 stick imo

[mortal grail]

Go get an aorus board and save yourself $100 over a strix

💀

[velvet summit]

ong

[silver sparrow]

im just going to wait until i snatch up another insanely lost value top teir board

[mortal grail]

These have the best RGB I've seen to date tho

Deltas tie with these

Very very consistent

[fervent stump]

I think teamgroup is the best

[mortal grail]

Yes Deltas look nice

Deltas are teamgroup

The marketing does them zero justice

They look way better in person

Functional heatsink stonks

[craggy shoal]

thanks JP

[mortal grail]

Ohhh rdimm

[somber skiff]

Same ic, but x8

[mortal grail]

Ooooo

Oh is that what it means??

[somber skiff]

The h? no

[mortal grail]

Oh

[somber skiff]

Revision number

[mortal grail]

Sadge

Ah

[fervent stump]

What about silicon

[dusk knot]

Tsk

[craggy shoal]

oops

lol

[mortal grail]

X-powers are quite decent

[rancid juniper]

oh

[velvet summit]

silicon power is the company

[rancid juniper]

thats my ram

[velvet summit]

same

ish

[fervent stump]

Like them

[velvet summit]

i have patriot and silicon power in my mobo

[rancid juniper]

silicon power makes dope ram/ssds

never fails

[craggy shoal]

man should I get RGB memory?

[rancid juniper]

nah

[velvet summit]

my bdie and cheap ass ram mix running at jedec

[fervent stump]

Would it match your set up

[craggy shoal]

yes

[rancid juniper]

just get a kit with a similar color for your build

[silver sparrow]

yooo those look clean af

[craggy shoal]

I need to cleanup cables first

[mortal grail]

And actually better than Tridents

The heatsinks work

[silver sparrow]

id consider

[fervent stump]

Cable management will be my fav part

[craggy shoal]

A lot of black cables 🤮

bruh that picture makes me realize that my halo is off

[fervent stump]

Get extensions

[craggy shoal]

wtf

it was just on

[mortal grail]

How do these manage to look worse in black

[mortal grail]

Thank god

[silver sparrow]

please spare my eyes

[mortal grail]

Fuse it off on those cards pls

Leave it off

[craggy shoal]

oh great

[silver sparrow]

i would like to remove them

[craggy shoal]

I'm about to just install OpenRGB atp

[fervent stump]

Best gpu

[craggy shoal]

deleting Armoury Crate sounds SO nice rn

[velvet summit]

it's not even black, it's just dark grey

[rancid juniper]

its all fun and games till your hair dryer needs a software update

[velvet summit]

too modern
still using pcie

[silver sparrow]

does aorus have bloatware like asus does?

[craggy shoal]

gimme that AGP GPU

[rancid juniper]

damn, thats ancient af

crusty even

[mortal grail]

Nope

[fervent stump]

Which do you guys like more they are basically the same but the second is shorter

[mortal grail]

Fusion is barely functional so just use open rgb

[silver sparrow]

i despise it

[rancid juniper]

open rgb is the way

[mortal grail]

Or if you're bold, Armoury crate

💀

It works

[dusk knot]

This is the way

[silver sparrow]

i dont want to spend multiple hours trying to get simple rgb to work

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-nod-yes-agreement-i-agree-gif-5606229

[dusk knot]

Only software everyone here should use

[velvet summit]

doom gpu gaddam

[rancid juniper]

THIS THING CAN RUN DOOM 3???

[silver sparrow]

i tried getting it to work with my corsair fans and gave up within 20 mins

[dusk knot]

Awesome powerful decal, weak relative performance to today's hardware 💀

[velvet summit]

cutting edge technology fr

fr

[craggy shoal]

Corsair moment

[rancid juniper]

id like to see more cards showing art like this tbh

all we have now is the weeb versions

mostly

[velvet summit]

lmao

[mortal grail]

Wow these are things

[velvet summit]

nobody likes doom anymore frfr

[silver sparrow]

yeah i wasnt about to try to get it to detect every single LED

[craggy shoal]

wack

[dusk knot]

Soo true lol

[velvet summit]

just big anime girls

[dusk knot]

Oh?

[rancid juniper]

sakura edition or whatever

lol

[silver sparrow]

i would rather watch paint dry, than try to get it to work

[dusk knot]

No one here would be caught dead with an anime GPU

👀

[silver sparrow]

i mean depends on the price

[velvet summit]

ceres fauna gpu when

[mortal grail]

Last ones

[silver sparrow]

if its a cheap powerful gpu

[mortal grail]

Geil got some weird ideas tbh

[silver sparrow]

then you boutta catch me

[rancid juniper]

"so, you spent that much eh???" ah look

[rancid juniper]

grass gaming

[dusk knot]

Super cheap compared to nowadays

[silver sparrow]

time to go gaming on a GT 610

[rancid juniper]

i feel like back then paying 400+ for a gpu was wild

[dusk knot]

We're in a crisis rn

[rancid juniper]

now you're looking at 1k+

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/crysis-gif-11975668691334140917

[rancid juniper]

MAXIMUM SPEED

[dusk knot]

[rancid juniper]

MAXIUMUM STRENGTH

i swear i have trouble spelling strength sometimes

[fresh nova]

MAXIMIUM CHAD!

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[rancid juniper]

and its typically the last three letters

lmao

[dusk knot]

Go back to school, bruh

[rancid juniper]

frfr

[velvet summit]

back when it was normal to have your controllers connect to your gpu

[dusk knot]

Jk. Sometimes I just do a quick Google search when I forget the simplest of words

[rancid juniper]

real

[silver sparrow]

w h a t

[rancid juniper]

im too new to this WHAT???

[dusk knot]

Never heard of that one before

[silver sparrow]

in what world does it make sense to have controls go through the GPU

[rancid juniper]

bro is a fossil if thats real

😂

[velvet summit]

i think it was... i forget

[silver sparrow]

what part of rendering the graphics has to do with the movement system

[dusk knot]

Sounds more like a myth than something that actually happened

[rancid juniper]

yep

[silver sparrow]

using the controller on the gpu to not actually move your character in game, it just moves where its rendering it

[dusk knot]

Lmao.