general-chat

[fervent stump]

💀

[keen shale]

Well yeah that entire keeb probably only cost them $50 to make

[fervent stump]

I’m keeping my 60% keyboard but it’s complicated

[worthy meteor]

anyways I did find a keychron board that comes in white with rgb with a knob
https://www.keychron.com/products/lemokey-p1-qmk-via-custom-gaming-keyboard?variant=41003221581913

there's too many keychron keebs now

and most of them only have black options

[fervent stump]

I’ll look into it

What’s this?

[sinful blade]

@worthy meteor I’m gonna pull a funni and get this case for my new build

[worthy meteor]

for osu

prob default bound to x, c, and click

[fervent stump]

I’m beating you up

[worthy meteor]

I want to approve it because segotep is funny but that's just too much

the brighest case I like is still td500 mesh

any more colorful and it's too much

[fervent stump]

Should I get a 4090 to play this game?

[dusk knot]

Absolutely

Needs to played at 16k

[fervent stump]

Hypothetically if I did get a 4090 how much fps could i get in roblox with a fps unlocker?

[dusk knot]

No idea

[fervent stump]

Alright I’ll find out soon

[dusk knot]

Oh no

[fervent stump]

I’ll buy 2 4090 because of you

[proud jackal]

[fervent stump]

A gift from me to you

[fervent stump]

But for real I may get a 4090 if not a 4080S

[velvet summit]

5

Or more

Honestly, you'll probably be running into some sort of bottleneck somewhere so you'll get anywhere between 0-1000fps probably

[dusk knot]

At least give me the second one. SLI is dead

[velvet summit]

(ish)

[dusk knot]

Theo at least once

[fervent stump]

IM COOOKED

HELP

😭

[dusk knot]

So you're in Florida

[fervent stump]

We don’t even have basements

[dusk knot]

Just got one rn

[fervent stump]

💀

[dusk knot]

💀

[fervent stump]

Wait..

[fervent stump]

Can I dm you for a sec?

[dusk knot]

Sure

[nocturne flicker]

Silly southern house builders, don't even understand the concept of basements

I say as I live in a TN house with a basement

[velvet summit]

lmao

tbf

you'd probably just have a personal swamp if you made basements in florida

at least near the coast

[nocturne flicker]

My childhood home in Northern NY had a basement that required a sump pump frequently running

[velvet summit]

damn

[dusk knot]

Depends if your area has a history of being prone to flooding

[sinful blade]

[velvet summit]

doesnt florida have a high water table though

[sinful blade]

It’s just SO bright

It’s like $100 on Amazon lmao

[nocturne flicker]

The water table went up when I was a little northern boi

[sinful blade]

https://www.amazon.com/SEGOTEP-Gank-360-RGB-Compatible/dp/B0CTKWJ4T8

[nocturne flicker]

It used to have finished flooring down there until it flooded and the sump pump was installed, then it was just unfinished

[dusk knot]

Not sure.

[velvet summit]

you're gonna be ganked if you have this case

[sinful blade]

I’m getting it

All of you keep roasting it

That is my sole reason

[nocturne flicker]

Your aio tubes shall perpetually clog with gunk and you shall be publically ganked

[fervent stump]

Noob >:(

[nocturne flicker]

Basements are nice

Make one

Ez

Dig hole

Become dwarf

Live in the hole

Call it man cave

[keen shale]

I prefer to be a Hobbit but yes

[sinful blade]

Jokes on you, I’ll use an air cooler

[nocturne flicker]

The heatpipes will get gunked 👻

[sinful blade]

NOOOOOO

[fervent stump]

I’m fine with living with alligators

[nocturne flicker]

You ally with alligators? Florida man really is real

[worthy meteor]

yea uh slightly bright

[fervent stump]

Yea my army and I are ready to get you

[tidal scroll]

I am thinking of upgrading to a 4060ti I have a i3 12100f with a 1070 ti is that a good option or should I go for a regular 4060, the 4060 ti is the most amount of money Ill spend

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/chiquichico-gif-26004262

[fervent stump]

I think it’s overpriced for what you get

[sinful blade]

Wonder what I should build in it

It looks medium sized

[nocturne flicker]

Pentium 3 build

[tidal scroll]

its about 400 after tax

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-touch-me-peasant-sassy-llama-go-away-gif-15737691

[fervent stump]

Wow

[tidal scroll]

too much?

[sinful blade]

@tidal scroll 3070ti

Get that

[tidal scroll]

better than a 4060ti?

[sinful blade]

I’ll show

https://youtu.be/kpy39jBdFH8?feature=shared

4060ti is on the left side of the video

Get a nice used 3070ti

It may eat up more power, but it’ll have better perf

[tidal scroll]

they seem very similar in performance

[sinful blade]

You’ll get better performance out of the 3070ti

[worthy meteor]

anything tbh

[sinful blade]

I’d have to replace that front glass panel though

[tidal scroll]

I found a founders edition for 315

[sinful blade]

With a nice mesh one

[sinful blade]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/326221938670?

FE cards tend to run a little hotter iirc

[tidal scroll]

what are those? the 4060ti?

or that card you sent from ebay

[hot pumice]

is this actually a thing, ew

[velvet summit]

3070 ti as the title says

[sinful blade]

Get the 3070ti I sent you from eBay right up there

[velvet summit]

and the description

[sinful blade]

Will serve you well for years to come

[hot pumice]

hi @mortal grail

[sinful blade]

There’s two people with bunny pictures in their profile in chat

And not the animals

[tidal scroll]

thank you

[sinful blade]

@hot pumice @fervent stump bunny people

[sinful blade]

JUST DOING MY DUTY SIR

[fervent stump]

HISSSS

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-baby-gif-11133003712203194954

[velvet summit]

☠️

[hot pumice]

chat is this real

[fervent stump]

Hii

[hot pumice]

hi

[velvet summit]

[safe cape]

no links ?

[velvet summit]

link probably had some sort of swear

the filter is very aggressive

[safe cape]

just steam

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

[safe cape]

why is this a solution ?

hmmm

[tranquil pebble]

sometimes an fps limiter interferes with vsync

[hot pumice]

vsync bad, limit fps with rivatuner backedge sync

[safe cape]

i have 60hz screen and 4070super

playing with v sync on

[north crescent]

vsync bad, limit fps with $3.14 compooter

[hot pumice]

limit fps to 120fps

[safe cape]

and i have screeen tearing

[hot pumice]

any multiple of 60 would be nice

[safe cape]

and the only solution is unlimited

[safe cape]

?

[safe cape]

where ?

[hot pumice]

rivatuner

[north crescent]

Dont use an external program and just use driver settings

[safe cape]

driver settings

nvidia you mean ?

[hot pumice]

% lows tend to be worse with nvidia limits sadly

idk about amd

but rivatuner and specialK have best % lows

[sinful blade]

Am I real?

[hot pumice]

idk probably not

[craggy shoal]

Nah

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-gif-21655577

[craggy shoal]

We're all just AI bots talking to each other

[hot pumice]

real

[wary fjord]

i feel that part is bugging in amd

[craggy shoal]

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[wary fjord]

im getting 1% low

like 1-2fps

lol

thats imposible

[hot pumice]

oof

[wary fjord]

the frame time is dead as a person

[sinful blade]

It’s bully Roomba for his financial decisions day

[wary fjord]

and im hitting my max cap

without hitching

[craggy shoal]

Guys I built a computer that gets stupid hot and it has like no airflow 💀 (this isn't an Intel build just FYI)

[sinful blade]

HEY

I’ve never done that

[dusk knot]

You just stopped existing there for a moment

[sinful blade]

Yet

My Guinea pigs look at me like that sometimes

Smol brain no think

[craggy shoal]

Everybody talks about Intel CPUs getting hot but nobody talks about Radeon heat 😫

[keen shale]

How about 5800x heat lol

[sinful blade]

How about a 1300x heat

[wary fjord]

who uses 1300x xD

[sinful blade]

I did

Gotta wash it off again rq

[craggy shoal]

Does it reach a 300W TDP?

[wary fjord]

brush it too with steal wool

[hot pumice]

steal wool

[sinful blade]

That things pins were bent when I pulled it out of the machine

[wary fjord]

ive never bent a pin in my whole life

hope i dint jinx it

in the future

[tranquil pebble]

lol

[sinful blade]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steal_Wool

You mean the 1957 cartoon short?

[wary fjord]

yes

[sinful blade]

You’ve just bent every pin in your primary build

[north crescent]

Havent seen that to be the case for NVCP. It was the case for NVPI afaik.

[hot pumice]

nvpi?

inspector?

[wary fjord]

nooooooo

[hot pumice]

isnt that third party software lol, i havent used that since like maxwell

[wary fjord]

since i put the fan on the top of rad i dont have no idea now if the fan above needs maintenance

i just hover my hand check if it still has wind on it

xD

good enough

[opaque sedge]

Amd gpu?

[craggy shoal]

yep

[opaque sedge]

Gimme a sec

Loading up cyberpunk

[craggy shoal]

it's a 6800 XT

[wary fjord]

why dint u buy 4090

[opaque sedge]

Idk

Maybe

Cuz

[wary fjord]

||its no brainer to get 4090 now adays ||

xD

[opaque sedge]

ITS ALMOST 5 TIMES AS EXPENSIVE

[craggy shoal]

because already having a 6800 XT on hand beats $1600

[wary fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/money-money-money-gif-3641396535535975514

[nocturne flicker]

Have to not have one to make that choice

[wary fjord]

nvidia is the apple of the gpu industry if u dont have it ... they will look u down

amd is the android xD

[north crescent]

Yes. tho I havent seen anything to show that RTSS is better now-a-days

[silver sparrow]

me right now not doing anything

[hot pumice]

just rivatuner them all out lol

[craggy shoal]

bruh what is that 💀

[hot pumice]

or not rivatuner, what's the frame time recording software again?

[wary fjord]

rivatuner ❤️

[silver sparrow]

i have a 7900xtx

[hot pumice]

capframe X, that

[nocturne flicker]

GPU Bird Power

[wary fjord]

i install amd at driver mode only

never had problem now

xD

rtts for capping

does rdna1 can even do flued motion .. if not yeah i dont need the software

[hot pumice]

rdna 1 does nothing except have poor contact with core

[wary fjord]

😦

[opaque sedge]

[craggy shoal]

300 watts is crazy 💀

[wary fjord]

87c thats nice

my rdna 1 cant do that

😦

110c ❤️

junction on top

[hot pumice]

washer mod

[opaque sedge]

fr my poor parents with no retirement boutto go into negative retirement with the power bills

[wary fjord]

yeah 300w and still 80c

[north crescent]

Why install extra software if it provides no use over other things (not everyone has afterburner installed, and not everyone additionally has RTSS running for funni numbers/graphs)? Why fragment your "video" settings if it again provides no use over other things?

[opaque sedge]

well unless they kick me out ofc

and i then become homeless

[hot pumice]

read wat i said after that lol

[craggy shoal]

fr bruh Nvidia is like gaming on a budget tbh fr

[hot pumice]

i meant capframe X out all the options and see what works best lol

if u don't really care to do that, then just run whatever?

fraps

[wary fjord]

u can use rivatuner hook to hook in the game u like to cheat xD if ac says the hook coming from signed dll it wont bother xD

+1 for riva

discord too has it.. xD they leave their hook api open

[opaque sedge]

power consumption is still high even when the game is paused 😭

[craggy shoal]

Actually playing Cyberpunk on Linux lmao

idk how to pull up the drivers lol

[opaque sedge]

maybe i should undervolt the gpu ngl

[north crescent]

Well my point is that I havent seen any differences between stuff. So same thing still applies, installing additional programs/fragmenting "video" options.

[craggy shoal]

(It's on Bazzite OS, which is a Steamdeck OS-like interface)

[wary fjord]

dpkg -i amdgpu-install_6.1.60103-1_all.deb

[silver sparrow]

i mean tbh not that bad

[hot pumice]

yeah so if u do care enough for better % lows and frametimes. do ur own testing with different software limiters lol

if u dont care, then dont?

[safe cape]

fixed the problem

[hot pumice]

idk how this is a debate for u lmao, it's entirely an optional thing

[safe cape]

weird solution

[craggy shoal]

inah

ur mom

[silver sparrow]

what game you playing?

in all honesty, im happy with this, yeah its a bit of power draw but im also running cyberpunk to the max even with ultra raytracing

[opaque sedge]

cyberpunk

[silver sparrow]

oh lmao

[opaque sedge]

how tf are u managing 70 fps with ultra rt

oh damn the 99th fps

[silver sparrow]

yeaaah

[opaque sedge]

brutal

[silver sparrow]

it hits every now and then

[opaque sedge]

unfortunately it seems like rt is only good from the 4070s and up

[silver sparrow]

its nothing compared to the internet issues i get when doing vr

im on 1440p btw

[opaque sedge]

hey atleast i have an amd cpu that never goes above 80w unlike those intel cpus that consume as much power as a mid range gpu

wbt u

[craggy shoal]

anything above 300W is crazy lmao

[north crescent]

I mean I think this is my third time saying it now, I've never seen it to be the case before. You never gave me examples/proof ever time I said that, which makes me believe it's a stereotypical "things reddit says".

[opaque sedge]

gotta cope

[silver sparrow]

i wonder how much power the 4090 pulls

[opaque sedge]

tdp is 450w i think

guys

[craggy shoal]

450W

[opaque sedge]

should've gotten a 4070s or gre ngl

[silver sparrow]

ive still been dealing with the stupid triple monitor high power draw issue, i hate it

[keen shale]

Transients?

[hot pumice]

im on mobile, im too lazy to find sources over a topic so niche everyone in chat is ignoring us lmao. just test it urself and gimmie results, it'll take like 30 minutes.

[opaque sedge]

what are the chances of me getting kicked out due to the power bill?

[hot pumice]

i could be wrong . my testing was a year or so ago, maybe newer drivers are better, idk.

[fervent stump]

Wow

Wb 7900xtx

[opaque sedge]

350

[fervent stump]

4080s?

[opaque sedge]

three fiddy]

oh wait 4080s

[craggy shoal]

bruh my 4070 Super consumes 220W lmao

light work

[opaque sedge]

320w max for the 4080s

[hot pumice]

my igpu consumes uhh, idk

[opaque sedge]

how cyberpunk with rt?

[hot pumice]

probably like 5w

[silver sparrow]

im hitting up to like 380w. but it only spikes to that every now and then, its not constant

[craggy shoal]

haven't tried that yet

[opaque sedge]

bruh

[craggy shoal]

lmao

[opaque sedge]

try it

and send a couple videos and pics

[silver sparrow]

i was using the ultra raytracing preset

[opaque sedge]

and make me mald

in envy

while consuming 2/3 of electricity

[silver sparrow]

but i mean considering how the 6950xt aged, i have no doubt that my gpu will be up to par with the 4090 eventually

[opaque sedge]

it barely contends against the 4080s

well matches ig

[north crescent]

I mean I like learning new things and all, but Im also not too inclined to spend too much time/effort searching for the answer myself over niche topics like you said lol.

[hot pumice]

fair enough

[silver sparrow]

it can trade blows with the 4090 in some games

their drivers are just consitantly hindering their gpus

[opaque sedge]

yh these things shine well in 4k

[silver sparrow]

but i mean i pay like a crap load less than a 4090, and get somewhat similar perf

[opaque sedge]

my xt is still a 1440p card at best tho

[silver sparrow]

thats a win in my book

and i never had to worry about my gpu catching fire

[opaque sedge]

imagine consuming 300 watts of power to play at 1440p

[silver sparrow]

i should tottally get a 4k monitor

[nocturne flicker]

I love consuming 300 watts

[opaque sedge]

consume deez nuts onyo chin

lmao

the reaction

[north crescent]

Damn that's a lot of watsons

[silver sparrow]

the 7900xtx was my first amd card and honestly i love it. (once i used ddu and actually properly got rid of nvidias drivers so i would stop crashing)

[nocturne flicker]

It is a real pick-me-up in the early morning

[silver sparrow]

really gives you the energy to move on?

[nocturne flicker]

It'll keep you energized throughout your day

[silver sparrow]

that too

its quite shocking to get into the routine, but trust me, you will feel completely energized through the day

[opaque sedge]

yk what else can keep you energized?

😈

Food

a combination of carbs proteins fats and fiber

[nocturne flicker]

Fiber? That's a fib

You're a fibber

[opaque sedge]

easier to pass morning stools tbh

and good for the gut too

but ig some peeps like to be constipated early morning

[nocturne flicker]

I don't even eat morning meals regularly. Or wake up in the morning

[opaque sedge]

when do u even wake up?

or perhaps you dont?

UR A GHOST?!

[fervent stump]

Will my electricity bill be bad if I leave r my computer on over night with a 4090

[nocturne flicker]

1pm - 3pm on my days off, 1:30 or 1:40pm on work days

[keen shale]

Oh, a night owl

[nocturne flicker]

I work till 11:45pm

[keen shale]

I never could do night shift

[opaque sedge]

Bro is 14 yr old me in summer break

[keen shale]

Or is that considered Swing shift?

[nocturne flicker]

Closing shift

We don't have an overnight shift

[unreal trail]

[nocturne flicker]

My 'weekend' is Monday and Tuesday

[silver sparrow]

one day i wont consume 100W to just run my 3 screens

[hot pumice]

radeon'd

[fair onyx]

Anybody know why NVIDIA RTX HDR is still not available in the NVIDIA app after 6+ months?

[hot pumice]

they forgor

[silver sparrow]

probably cause its nvidia

they do what they want

[fair onyx]

legit the only thing I wanna use my GPU for. I have a stupid high end HDR monitor, but none of the games I wanna play are in HDR

I REALLY wanna play subnautica in HDR. That would be incredible

Instead all I have is this stupid "RTX dynamic vibrance" BS that makes games look deepfried with any settings

I really wanted to be bale to use this panel properly, but NVIDIA is still on their ass, not adding a feature so many people want

[north crescent]

Sub is UE right? Can turn HDR on in any UE game with INI changes. Tho, dont always look nice.
Also what about Win11 auto HDR?

[fair onyx]

I don't use windows 11, but if thats true that I can do it in commands, I would love to try

Right now I am doing it by overdriving SDR into HDR luminance, but that means it makes the UI super bright as well, which is not ideal

[lone mango]

6000 is pretty efficient so its probably because you said no airflow

[keen shale]

Which app, GeForce experience?

[fair onyx]

we really need to stop this stupid trend of games raising black levels to gray instead of black. I spent an absurd amount of money on an OLED panel. I don't want my monitors black level to look like I am cosplaying an IPS panel

[fair onyx]

the NVIDIA app

[keen shale]

Ah, the Beta app

[north crescent]

How to do it: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/tlye6k
Setting configuration info (mainly look at HDR.Display.OutputDevice and HDR.Display.ColorGamut): https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/high-dynamic-range-display-output-in-unreal-engine

[fair onyx]

oh my god, that link just killed me

full screen max HDR white flash bang for a split second. I saw the light of god

[last mango]

good

it was almost ur time to come to the light of god

[fair onyx]

lol

[last mango]

I had HDR on

it was nice

but then all my SSs would just turn into jxr files

and i got tired of converting jxr files to either png or jpeg

[fair onyx]

I am overdriving SDR into HDR at the moment

[last mango]

turned off and tuned my HDR 1000 stuff within DWF settings

[fair onyx]

oh, thats the monitor I had before I got this one

[last mango]

nice

what is it now

[fair onyx]

MSI MEG 342C QD-OLED

[last mango]

ah thats the craze ppl been saying

new stuff

[fair onyx]

I got it for less than the DW, and it has a lot more features I like

[last mango]

nice

i paid 700 for DWF i think

[fair onyx]

I actually had the DW, not the F. I like it a lot, but it was lacking soooooo many features

[last mango]

I see

[fair onyx]

I returned it and got this one for $180 less lol

[last mango]

like what

[north crescent]

Old firmware one?

[fair onyx]

logo detection burn in protection, auto panel brightness lowering protection, customizable pixel shift, wide color gamut mode, color calibration modes, the ambient light sensor, the bottom color bar, the full HDMI 2.1 that allows me to actually use the panel at its max spec (Hated that about the DW and DWF. Couldn't fully use the panel)

[fair onyx]

AFAIK, the DW's all have the same firmware, which was ass

Oh, I also like that I have an app on my PC that allows me to control everything about my panel instead of having to trudge through the OSD

and, it also has software to change the color profile when I do specific things or open specific apps. Its been great. I have damn near no complaints since I got this monitor

[north crescent]

Win + Alt + B toggles HDR in 🅱️indows. Usually use HDR only for movies/games, otherwise stay in SDR.

[last mango]

i think I get the logo detection burn in protection, idk about auto panel brigthness lowering protection and pixel shift. color calibartion modes is done through Window yes?

Ambient light sensor hmm

[fair onyx]

I really specifically disliked how bad the panel clean on the DW was. Cause it was bugged so it would never run if you clicked "do not show", I had to manually navigate to the "cancel" every 4 hours. It was succhhhh a pain in the ass. And the lack of wide color gamut mode was very annoying

[last mango]

I never had to click it every 4 hrs

[north crescent]

DW has 6 - 7 firmware revisions iirc

[last mango]

It went away after i said do not show again once or two times

[fair onyx]

you don't have a DW

the DW was a pain in the ass to deal with

it had a ton of issues

I guess I had an older firmware one

[last mango]

arent DW and DWF same thing except 175hz and refresh components?

[fair onyx]

but yeah. It was enough for me to see I loved the panel

[north crescent]

DW was pain cuz firmware wasnt user upgradable until like the most recent firmware version

[north crescent]

gsync module

[fair onyx]

no, not at all. the DW had no upgradable firmware, so it shipped with tons of issues and limited features you could never improve

[last mango]

Oh wow.

I see

[north crescent]

Also reason why firmware wasnt user upgradable for a long time

[last mango]

Id be disappointed if it wasnt fixable

[fair onyx]

The one I had had the panel refresh bug. If you clicked "Do not show", it would never refresh the panel again. It also had a weird bug where in the very top right, if something especially bright would pop up, the rest of the panel would dim

[last mango]

and firmware upgrade

[last mango]

What the

[north crescent]

Worth noting Dell was pretty forgiving on "RMA"ing a new monitor with an up to date firmware

[fair onyx]

I had the DW cause I bought it on amazon and it had 90 day return. I wanted to get the DWF, but then my MEG had a lot more features, a lot less issues, and was cheaper for me, and I could still get it from amazon, so thats what I did

[last mango]

Least

you're happy.

over here 0 issues.

[fair onyx]

Yeah, I really am. This panel has been great, and it also has a burn in warranty. I almost didn't buy it, cause it wasn't stated at first if it had one

[fair onyx]

Yeah, the DWF has a lot less issues than the DW

My biggest thing was the fact that I can actually use my panel at max spec. Its stupid AF at the DW and DWF can't be used at max spec. Like, who thought that was a good idea

[last mango]

I want to understand

What's max spec for the panel

[fair onyx]

On the DW and DWF, you cant use it at max res with max refresh and max color depth

[craggy shoal]

Yeah exactly why tbh

[last mango]

Ah color depth

[idle nexus]

uh I need suggestions lol

[last mango]

8bit and 10bit

right?

[craggy shoal]

Except Radeon isn't efficient at all lol

[idle nexus]

how to finish this

[fair onyx]

So on the DW/DWF, if you wanna use it at 3440x1440@175hz, you can't use 10 bit color. Instead you have to drop down to 100hz to get 10 bit color, which drove me up a wall

[idle nexus]

my son's 13600K/3070 build was so horribly unstable that I gave up & put 5900x/2080ti. kinda hate Intel rn ngl

[north crescent]

You can if you changing pixel refresh timings, but still not great

[last mango]

I recall there was a hack to get 10 bit color bit using a custom Nvidia profile

[lone mango]

6000 is pretty good but if you had earlier radeon I would be like yeah hes cooking fr

[last mango]

I did and it worked

[idle nexus]

the stupid 2080ti has a 3 slot bracket. I can order a 2 slot from China that'll be here by like 8/26 but in the meantime lol

[fair onyx]

Yeah. On my MEG, I can use 3440x1440@175@10bit no problem, cause it has HDMI 2.1

I almost never use it, but its nice to be able to actually use my panel when I need it

[last mango]

however i dont know the difference

[lone mango]

I think my rx580 was drawing like 140 watts

[idle nexus]

eh supposedly I'm doing 10-bit at 144hz at 4k?

installing the color profile helped iirc

[north crescent]

There were two ways to go about it. I cant recall the other way, but basically all it did was bug out the monitor into reporting it was 10b even tho it was still 8b. Pixel timings way was actual 10b.

[idle nexus]

ewww light mode

lol

enable HDR? does that affect 10/8-bit?

[fair onyx]

8bit (normal) is ~16 million total colors. 10 bit is 1 billion colors. It means if you work on professional things, there is wayyyy less color banding

[last mango]

HDR would make it go 10bit yes

[fair onyx]

oh right, I forget the DWF is 165hz, not 175hz

[last mango]

so does that mean my panel works as intended

[fair onyx]

yeah, it does work as intended

[last mango]

if it can show 10bit in HDR

[idle nexus]

I tried using not HDR recently & it was really bight & looked funny lol

[fair onyx]

you just cant use full 10 bit outside of HDR is all

[idle nexus]

the trade off is screen snips are oversaturated & suck but what can ya do

[last mango]

yep

thats why i turned it off

[north crescent]

Worth noting that it's kinda only pain for professional work. 8b with dithering gets pretty close to 10b (which is usually automatic for content consumption stuff).

[last mango]

and lived without it

[idle nexus]

I cannot believe Microsoft hasn't fixed this. It's been like this since 2021 at least

[last mango]

I hope they can make HDR screenshots as normal

Oh wow.

[idle nexus]

I tried using imgur instead but nope

[fair onyx]

I used it a few times for dataset augmentation, and I could for sure tell the difference on the edits visually, but the end difference was not a huge difference I am sure

[idle nexus]

only way I can screensnip without it looking like trash is turn HDR off

[fair onyx]

yeahhhh

I almost got fired from my job over that one time lmao

[fervent stump]

Is the iPhone 15 Oled?

[last mango]

amoled i think

[fervent stump]

?

[fair onyx]

My boss and a client were looking at my screen share through zoom, and cause they sent me images to edit from smart phones, I didn't notice that the images were triggering HDR response. So in the stream, they were clipped to absolute hell, and they thought I was inept at dataset preparation lmao

[fair onyx]

just OLED

made by LG

[fervent stump]

Oh ok

[last mango]

i see

why "am"

[fair onyx]

samsung makes AMOLED

[north crescent]

Certain versions of SS have HDR support, taking a jxr instead of a png or smth. I cant really remember much about this now tho.

[fervent stump]

What’s better?

[fair onyx]

IIRC, AMOLED has better refresh speeds, viewing angles, and color volume

[fervent stump]

Whats oled better for?

[idle nexus]

LOL THIS HAS BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME???

[fair onyx]

I know my laptop has an AMOLED display, and the color volume is so intense on it, it can be obnoxious to look at lmao

[idle nexus]

I just turned it on...

[fair onyx]

BURH

lmaooo

[fair onyx]

I am not sure

[idle nexus]

like three years

[last mango]

is that MS snipping tool

or diff

[idle nexus]

I think OLED has like infinite contrast ratio?

MS

[fair onyx]

AMOLED does as well

[last mango]

Oh boy.

I should try it out soon

[idle nexus]

I have been mad about HDR screen snips for like 3 years now

[fair onyx]

same here. I am on windows 10 tho, so I assume no fix lmao

[last mango]

https://tenor.com/view/what-ever-is-going-on-gif-19764306

[idle nexus]

ig it was resolved recently tho?

22 pages of people complaining about this lmao

LOL I was gonna say let me test it & just realized I did like 4x now

[north crescent]

HDR stuff was been change over time for SS. This might've been within the past 8 months, iirc an HDR thing for SS was added then.

[fervent stump]

Oh alright I guess I’ll stick with Apple

[fair onyx]

This is what I almost got fired over lol

[last mango]

went apple once

came back to samsung

[fair onyx]

actual image

vs what my boss could see

[fervent stump]

I almost broke my tooth

[mental yoke]

Glad that the ally is back on top of the handheld performance

[last mango]

you

[fervent stump]

I’m chewing on plastic

[idle nexus]

this used to annoy me too

[last mango]

why are you here EMPEROR

LOL

[fair onyx]

He thought I ruined our companies dataset, but it was just illiciting an HDR response cause of how the phones were saved lmao

[north crescent]

I typically turn HDR off cuz a lot windows stuff looks bad in HDR. Keybind to toggle HDR makes it kinda whatever.

[mental yoke]

Eat hickory mate!

❤️

[last mango]

TFW a DW almost ruined ur career

[idle nexus]

I would put a border around my screen snips if it looked cooler

[fair onyx]

from my expereince, it MASSIVELY depends on what monitor. The DWF looked absolutely perfect in HDR, same with my MEG, but the 2 other HDR screens I have owned have been unusuably bad in HDR

they get severely washed out with no color at all

[idle nexus]

if I could automatically have this border around my screen snips, I'd enable that setting

[fair onyx]

on my MEG, SDR and HDR are 100% identical visually. As in turning on HDR doesn't change how SDR looks at all. On my left monitor, it makes HDR and SDR look horrifically awful

[idle nexus]

wait... "Welcome to the Pokemon?" did it always say that?

[idle nexus]

that windows HDR calibration thing doesn't help?

[fair onyx]

I have never used anything called that

[north crescent]

"Hello! the Welcome Pokemon to Next"

[idle nexus]

I know Microsoft store is a place we all try to avoid

[last mango]

Holy sheet

HDR turned on

Discord looks so crisp

the white bars look like yellowish lol

what.

[idle nexus]

did you install these things for your monitor?

[fervent stump]

It hurts :c

[last mango]

No

Gimme

or i eat your feet

Where can I get it?

[idle nexus]

in Device Manager does it show Generic Monitor or the name of your monitor?

[last mango]

One sec

[fervent stump]

How do I connect all my Rgb to change them all at once

[last mango]

it says named

[idle nexus]

can try OpenRGB

[last mango]

OpenRGB

But i'm on DP

[fervent stump]

How does that work? Can I connect a keyboard and mouse to change the Rgb too?

[last mango]

And i made sure to get 2.1 dp or whatever

the what

Openrgb is a software you install on your computer to control PC rgb components...

[idle nexus]

if you're lucky, it'll detect everything after you run as admin once

[last mango]

Oh

[north crescent]

Oh yeah, another thing I had fun with HDR on standard stuff is that it is sometimes bipolar. iirc someone posted an HDR(?) image to Discord and suddenly the entirety of Discord moved into HDR mode or smth, brightness of the entire app completely change just based on how I interacted with that image (like hovering over it or smth).

[last mango]

Keyboard rgb and mouse u mean

[idle nexus]

it'll show all the devices it detects on the left side

[fervent stump]

Yes

[fervent stump]

^

[fervent stump]

I can change them all at once too?

[idle nexus]

I dunno if you still need plugins (e.g., "OpenRazer") for some devices

[north crescent]

iirc pretty rare to need now-a-days. But can still find couple device plugins if you search (last I looked, ~1 year ago)

[idle nexus]

some plugins don't even work last time I used them lol

I think you still need one for effects tho

[keen shale]

Yeah, it still has a "compatible devices list"

[north crescent]

Effects are stil rather bland without plugins ye

[idle nexus]

dunno if this would help

[last mango]

Man's leaving me hanging where i can acquire the f43u thingy files

[fervent stump]

Like one click and they all change to the same thing?

[idle nexus]

there's also a firmware update

[last mango]

Think I've done that

but not the first one

[north crescent]

Usually yes. One of the main things is getting the icc profile for windows

[idle nexus]

FV43U is my monitor. You wouldn't benefit from using my color profile I think

[last mango]

Ah gotcha.

[idle nexus]

https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=wfrgk&oscode=w2021&productcode=aw3423dwf-monitor

I dunno if it includes the icc profile

people on forums say icc profile is part of the driver

[north crescent]

It was either the driver or AW app that installed the icc profile for me, cuz I never did it manually (until I applied RTings one).

[last mango]

💀

Well then.

No 10bit in 165hz

[craggy shoal]

This guy's monitor does 1000 nits

[last mango]

Yeah?

[craggy shoal]

Bright asf

[last mango]

Oh yeah it was when i tried max brightness

I copied a profile from another DWF user within monitor settings

[sinful blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R9LkxH
How do we feel about this attempt at an all white/RGB build?

[last mango]

75% brigthness or something

[sinful blade]

Trying to fit the theme of the case

[last mango]

But with HDR its so bright..

[craggy shoal]

The GPU isn't white

[velvet summit]

True HDR experience

[keen shale]

Where you gonna get an EVGA GPU?

[last mango]

I think I am using my panel incorrectly

[sinful blade]

It’s a placeholder

[craggy shoal]

As it should be tbh lol

[keen shale]

Ah

[sinful blade]

I can’t find a white 3070ti atm

But how’s it look

[last mango]

Oh it looks better

more bearable to look at

I was using a preset modes

[sinful blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zXQ7KX

[last mango]

from creator to Standard

[sinful blade]

Adjusted the ram

[keen shale]

Other than the gen 3 NVME, it's aight

[sinful blade]

Ah frick

Forgot to change that

[keen shale]

It'll work, I just prefer faster

[sinful blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NVzyGP

There we go

[sinful blade]

Nah, meant to change it, forgot to before posting it again

Any possible way to remove the glass at the front and put in a mesh?

[keen shale]

With a big enough hammer, all is possible

[sinful blade]

[keen shale]

I'd imagine there's a frame on the backside that's riveted on, you could probably drill the rivets, remove frame and glass and glue in mesh

[sinful blade]

You can just buy mesh and cut to fix, right?

[keen shale]

Ya

[sinful blade]

Cuz I’ll probably do what you said, if temps get bad.

[last mango]

is this correct setting?

[last mango]

Ah crap, april 2024 its recent

[keen shale]

Actually, IDK if the front is even removable given the RGB in it

That will make things more difficult

[last mango]

https://tenor.com/view/theabbie-gif-19499011

[worthy meteor]

What cable?

[last mango]

Mind if i link u the amazon one?

[worthy meteor]

sure if its what you have

at a glance bandwidth is going to be the problem

[last mango]

I see.

I guess 100hz is good enough

Significantly better than 60 fps

8K VESA Certified DisplayPort... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VVJZJ2P?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Wow

I looked under my monitor bottoms

And there a two USB 3.0 slots

[last mango]

Shockingly indeed.

Also

cat.

[keen shale]

cat

[last mango]

cute

[keen shale]

Every night after dinner, that's his spot

I must make room or I get yelled at

[north crescent]

Not easily, https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/1181tg3

But still kinda possible

[hot pumice]

squeeze him with ur thighs

[last mango]

thats the hack I mentioned

[keen shale]

no, his claws work

I prefer my skin unpunctured

[mental yoke]

my catnever sleeps on me

he sleeps on momma though

[keen shale]

That is the ONLY time he will ever get on your lap is right after we're done eating dinner

Me or my wife

He does not like getting picked up, weird one but also rescue so.....is what it is.

[last mango]

@fair onyx Yo, could you tell a difference between 10bit and 8bit?

[fair onyx]

depends on the work required

[last mango]

lets say

gaming in HDR

[fair onyx]

with fast action like that, no shot

[last mango]

ok

[sinful blade]

F

[keen shale]

I can't find a single picture or video with the front off

But I also can't find much at all

[sinful blade]

Also
2080ti and 3070ti are literally same price for used on eBay

[last mango]

am I using its full potential if i have HDR peak 1000 on?

well nice to have extra USBs on my DWF i discovered

Colors are already popping out

I can see that

[last mango]

huh

Just played one game in Fortnite, ZBM. I can live with 100hz it feels smooths enough for me

[chrome mirage]

I'm starting to realize that all the Canadian cartoons I grew up watching were very experimental and would have a hard time doing well anywhere else

[last mango]

gonna try the hack from the Reddit and see if it works for my current DWF

[lone mango]

Retina cooker

Thing gonna make you develop visual snow

[craggy shoal]

He has Windows set to light mode too 💀💀

[last mango]

Would u like to use my PC

Nah.

I'll have you sit behind this chair using Discord Light theme

win11 as well

100 hrs each week

[lone mango]

I have visual snow

[craggy shoal]

We all do

[last mango]

right now the nits is at 455

[silver sparrow]

what could i realisticly even do with HDR? like i know theres movies and stuff that support it, but does it realisticly even make much of a difference in day to day use

[last mango]

Other than seeing raw colors popping out on the monitor

I turn it off because of overexposure issue

[lone mango]

[last mango]

Nope no dice.

It worked when I had Nvidia gpu

At this time its the AMD gpu

The HDR is actively burning my retinas

Or im just sleep deprived.

[mystic cedar]

bonjour bonjour. can someone help me find affordable speakers. sum around 50 dollars maybe :)). i just need for gaming and prob just watching videos. i was thinking of getting maybe Creative Pebble Plus 2.1 or Logitech Z313 2.1

[last mango]

Nvrm

165hz better lol

[elfin mural]

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/gaming-pcs/nzxt-will-rent-you-an-rtx-4070-ti-super-system-for-dollar169-a-month-or-dollar2028-a-year-but-we-can-find-deals-a-lot-better-than-that/

Worst deal of the century

Renting a 4070ti pc for 169 a month is insane

[fervent stump]

Not really what if you rent it for like 2 months?

[elfin mural]

Nope

Not worth it lmao

[fervent stump]

Maybe

[elfin mural]

Why would you rent a gaming pc for that little

[fervent stump]

Idk

Testing it to see if it’s worth it??

[elfin mural]

nah

It's probably terrible and not optimal anyway

Look at that case

No airflow, none

[fervent stump]

Yea

I saw this earlier here ik it’s bad the way it’s setup but is the pc itself good?

[elfin mural]

can't judge without actual specs

but that looks like a classic case of overspending on looks

and getting mid hardware for the budget

that gpu looks like a 3060

i hate that pc

[wind quail]

Best case scenario a 3060ti

[elfin mural]

a likely $600 board as well

yikes

[wind quail]

More like 300 I'd say

[elfin mural]

when your board costs more than the cpu

i wouldn't be surprised if it's got an R5

[wind quail]

I think the peel is still on the aio

[elfin mural]

looks good but mid perf

oh the gpu looks to be a ventus 4060

yucky

[last mango]

Lol

I wanted nzxt as my first PC case

Then I heard the airflow was horrible

I ended up getting a 4000d

[elfin mural]

NZXT refuses to specify storage capacity and ram for the rentals

That's a big red flag

[last mango]

Have a feeling

[fervent stump]

I want looks for mine but I’ve been told to not focus on that

[elfin mural]

Watch it be 512gb ssd and 16gb ram

[last mango]

Rent increases as u select more storage and ram

[elfin mural]

Nah it's just

Tiers

Fixed configs for you to choose

How much you wanna pay per month

[last mango]

Ah

[elfin mural]

Base tier is $50 a month for..

12400F and 4060

With probably I guess 16gb of ram

Instead of paying $50, how about you keep $50 a month until you get a pc yourself

That's a much better idea

[fervent stump]

This is what I go for and in order
Looks
Performance
Price

I just love the pretty lights

[fervent stump]

I just love the brightness and everything

Me https://youtube.com/shorts/pSAQA8sUp6A?si=7lBTY8dse6hYZN7M

[elfin mural]

that's why you account peripherals into the budget

if you don't already have good peripherals

[fervent stump]

My budget is like 2.5k now

Or 2.8

[silver sparrow]

My budget went off the charts so i just buy things as i go now and keep that number away from my mind

cant regret how much you've spent when you dont know how much you've spent

[lone mango]

2 months is $340, which can almost get you a used rx6800

Actually some are below 340

[lone mango]

I said it was a slop pc but I guess she dont believe me

[elfin mural]

lol

[swift spruce]

Should I wait for AMD's new GPUs or go for RTX 3060 for multiplayer gaming? I will be playing at 1080p high

[elfin mural]

Don't do 3060

Instead buy something like a 7700xt

6600xt or 7600

[tranquil pebble]

x060 Nvidia cards these days arent what they used to be

[idle crest]

Quick question does watching youtube/videos on my pc while either transfering photos/videos from an sd card to my computer or uploading photos/videos to my dropbox affect any of the quality?

[elfin mural]

no

[idle crest]

Thx 😊

[tranquil pebble]

only thing that would affect quality is if you were downloading something big at full speed

or if your network decided to take a day off

[swift spruce]

Best Mobo for 7600x? Price Range< ₹20k

[elfin mural]

i can help you look for the mobo you want

do you need wifi?

any specific aesthetics?

[swift spruce]

Not into too much RGB. Must be upgradeable

Wifi is not must

[elfin mural]

alright

[swift spruce]

Does newegg ship to india

[elfin mural]

they do

but shipping is expensive

so i'd rather buy in india

[swift spruce]

Ok

[elfin mural]

https://www.amazon.in/MSI-ProSeries-Motherboard-Desktop-Processors/dp/B0CFY3KJ51/ref=mp_s_a_1_5

i'd probably get this one

[wet spindle]

yo

[swift spruce]

Ram should be dual channel or single channel?

[elfin mural]

dual, always

you should always buy ran in a kit

[swift spruce]

32 gb is too much acc to this

https://smcinternational.in/custom-pc/smc-custom-pc---all

[elfin mural]

32gb is a sweet spot

[swift spruce]

What is cl? Cas latency?

[tranquil pebble]

yes

for me 32 isnt enough anymore. I need 64 GB.

but for most people yeah 32 GB is good if not overkill

[elfin mural]

yikes

this site has expensive prebuilts

[deep parcel]

I love having 64gb of ram

ive only had a few games utilize all of it

one that came close was DCS

[wary fjord]

nice

i quite love my idle xD

6.8

[swift spruce]

Is acer predator memory good?

[elfin mural]

it's ram

should work fine

[craggy shoal]

probably not. it's Acer

oops

[elfin mural]

i mean acer takes ram from the 3 main memory chip makers

should be ok

[warped crest]

ight place bets now if my os crashing not even into bsod is my mobo or cpu, resaults should come in 10~ days

[craggy shoal]

rarely will it be the motherboard lol

in 10 days? bro is expecting his BSOD to come in the mail

[storm narwhal]

Expect delays with USPS delivery

Maybe 15 business days

[elfin mural]

intel's stocks keeps falling

i wanna see the rock bottom

if i have money i'd definitely put some in on that point

knowing it'd eventually rise later

thanks shareholders

[sinful blade]

Plot twist, intel just dies

[elfin mural]

realistically not possible

they'd get bailed out by the US

[warped crest]

well the whine issue is there but super reduced

so

but crashing is what i care about

[craggy shoal]

don't even know what your issue is bro

[warped crest]

sorry mom

its gigacrap*

[craggy shoal]

okay so what's the issue?

[wary fjord]

im having a mandela effect

on nvidia stock

i swear i thought it was on 300+

xD

[elfin mural]

lmao

[wary fjord]

hmm RGB line up is true now

AMD NVIDIA INTEL stocks are aligned

xD

i heard someone did 300-700k at intel.. that is nice if he or she hold that money

intel will rise again

[keen shale]

Did 700k, lost 200K right out the gate

[craggy shoal]

Intel stock at $21 is crazy lol

I might invest

[wary fjord]

they layoff 15k people thats a lot of sorry letter to generate

they said thats the amount of amd employee had back when lisa su is not on the position yet xD

[velvet summit]

https://youtu.be/RUoi-90WsZc

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx8V8JHrxZCqSCrN5l8D8e9jyPZ2oBqAIW?si=y5GgQp0kPccqumXS

[young matrix]

They split their stocks

[plain stone]

need help, friend turned his external drive into a local disk, and wants to get it back like usual

any advice?

[keen shale]

Right click Windows Icon - Disk Management, let it run. Does it show there? Is the drive accessible if you click on it, can you open it and get to files?

[plain stone]

yes it is shown in disk management, yes it's fully functional and normal as if it's a normal external drive

the laptop he's using just reads his external drive as 'local' drive and wants to change that

he tried it on his friends pc and it also reads it as local

[keen shale]

What brand is it?

[plain stone]

seagate one touch

1 tb

all seems to be working just normall he just wants it to be read as external like it used to

[chrome mirage]

Car show time

[plain stone]

sick

[chrome mirage]

They sent all the Japanese cars as far from the classics as possible

[keen shale]

I'd recommend grabbing SeaTools and running scan. Then entering the serial number and checking for a firmware update. Could have just been a Windows update or it needs a firmware update. https://www.seagate.com/support/external-hard-drives/desktop-hard-drives/onetouch/

[keen shale]

See above. One more question. Is there a bar showing how full the disk is when they plug it in or just an HD icon?

If there is no bar under the disk, it may be a sign of early failure

[plain stone]

yes it has

[keen shale]

Ok, good, run Seatools and check for a firmware upate

[plain stone]

yes

also can I get back to you tomorrow earlier of this time? my friend is apparently uploading his files on cloud because he's afraid he might get his drive corrupted

[keen shale]

I'll be gone most of the day tomorrow

Always a good idea to backup drives

[plain stone]

yeah, i had my experience with that haha

[plain stone]

i'll let him run what you just said to check if there's any update he needs to do

might as well be better for him to upload his files first before playing with it

[keen shale]

Always, especially if there's a firmware update

[plain stone]

yessir

thanks very much for the help

[keen shale]

YW

Could also try a simple Right Click the drive - Rename

But that will only be in effect for the pc it's plugged in to

[plain stone]

i'll update here when he's able to do it. he said it's gonna take a while to upload all his stuff lol

would there be any problems if he decides to rename it while he's uploading stuff rn?

[keen shale]

Possibly, wait until it's done if it's transferring data

[plain stone]

okay thank you very much

i'm startin college tomorrow too haha so good night/day

[craggy shoal]

good luck bro. if a girl invites you to her dorm, just say no lol

[elfin mural]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1116503705760579584/1267174512856924180/IMG_1384.jpg?ex=66b0657a&is=66af13fa&hm=1d9dbc60ae94b3c6f019499dcedbe3e32b2f2fa4a0e8be51a810a089d0c93d80&

tesla™

[craggy shoal]

bro about to put a diesel into a Cybertruck

bro about to actually save the environment

[plain stone]

LOL

[elfin mural]

turning it into a real truck

[velvet summit]

i had an all carb and fat breakfast ong

just plain congee, a pineapple bun w/ butter, and fried dough

[keen shale]

When we go camping we do breakfast burritos

Bacon, potatoes, eggs, cheese, tortilla

[devout forum]

Holy

The amount of delusional intel fanboys on Facebook is staggering

[keen shale]

Not just Intel, every manu has people like that

[sinful blade]

One of my DoorDash customers just casually gave me a stereo system as a tip

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-16704157274113773062

[north crescent]

Intel best. I'd rather use their CPUs for rendering games than AMD GPU cuz AyyMD bad. ||/s||

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/11FWyDiT8bE?si=gcUnHTaJpJ6vuavd

[deep parcel]

some whistlin diesel type shenanigans

I cannot believe how cheaply made cybertrucks are. They are built tough and not tough at the same time

its like having a shield but you have to hold it manually without a handle and you can only hold it on the edges

[mortal grail]

They're built like the original msrp of 50K

[deep parcel]

so true

[mortal grail]

Not the current six figure price

[deep parcel]

goofy elon

[mortal grail]

Reminds me when the model X came out and people were trying to rave over it, meanwhile the bumpers were literally falling off of them everywhere

[north crescent]

Toosla could prolly sell it for 50k and still make a profit

[velvet summit]

getting rid of their trash

smart move

[deep parcel]

https://youtu.be/PK_EJ3DyiiA?si=qrbpEuI0HzdGSTLJ&t=354

this part surprised me the most

[storm narwhal]

Oh my god this is so entertaining Lmao

No other car is this bad

So much money and yet so many corners cut

[sinful blade]

It works

[velvet summit]

tfw the metal is just glued on

[sinful blade]

Old Sony system

[surreal kernel]

can someone help me chose a good 144hz monitor at the 200 euro price range

[paper verge]

NO

i gotta make my 8k back fr

[deep parcel]

one of his best videos in awhile.

[deep parcel]

[paper verge]

i was disapointed by the ford

[proud jackal]

now everyone knows you can just jank the door trim off

[deep parcel]

Yeah, that’s because they make those even cheaper. But they have mastered manufacturing certain aspects of the truck through so many years of trial and error.

The ford still looked like the better choice in the end

[paper verge]

yeah i watched the video

im not sure if its included in the video but or if i saw this somewhere else but customer support was ignoring him after the whole thing

[deep parcel]

Yeah they spoke about that in the video lol

[paper verge]

ah thought i saw it in shorts

[silver sparrow]

just remember, take the cybertruck if your going into a c4 warzone

[deep parcel]

The Tesla employees probably saw all his notifications from his cybertruck and said nope

[deep parcel]

At least we know it is decent in Fortnite

[silver sparrow]

decent at breaking down in the game as well?

oop