general-chat

[elfin mural]

Big nono on laptops

[opaque sedge]

Interesting looks like this non conformal coating is also used for devices that would like water proofing or resistance such as the hobby fpv drones

[elfin mural]

Asus has killed far too many zephs

Also yeah

[opaque sedge]

Poor zephs

[elfin mural]

Because it acts as a layer that protects against anything

Preventing direct contact

I've seen a bunch of strix g15 amd advantage back in like 2022 die too

Those mega cheap 5900HX+6800M laptops

They were banger value

But had a high chance of DOA

[opaque sedge]

I’m assuming they use regular non conductive stuff now?

[elfin mural]

Nope

Still on lm

It's apparently not too big of a deal for asus to lose some money to RMA

When it works, it works

[opaque sedge]

Bruh

[elfin mural]

But if it fails, well

You can guess

[opaque sedge]

Customer has the most inconvenience ig

[elfin mural]

I still wanted a zeph tho

Still one of the only choices for thin and light performance laptops

But I guess it'd be bad long term

Cuz I'd need to apply lm again

[opaque sedge]

Also solid build quality ig other than the thermal solution

[elfin mural]

Just a bad idea

[opaque sedge]

Wbt their tuf laptops?

[elfin mural]

Tuf is paste only

[opaque sedge]

Nice

[elfin mural]

Pretty good

[opaque sedge]

Cuz the advantage edition on sale is a steal

[elfin mural]

I wanted the advantage too with 7600S

But it had no stock

AFMF and 8gb vram would've been amazing

[sinful blade]

Gg

[icy ore]

[strong pond]

Hi this question may sound silly but, I figured I ask. Is there any issue with placing a internet switch on carpet?

[velvet summit]

IM JUST KEN

[velvet summit]

if it has a fan, then dust may get inside

or rather, if it has holes for convection, you probably wouldnt really want it on carpet

electrically speaking though, the case should protect the internal components from any esd damage

[strong pond]

Would it be helpful to show which one I plan on buying?

[velvet summit]

is it like, a network switch that only does switching? or are you using the term to refer to a router/ap combo

sure i guess? though i wouldnt want a switch on the floor anyways since that is also a toe stubbing hazard lol

[strong pond]

It would be just for a switch I have many items in my office that I would like to have Ethernet connection instead of WiFi

[strong pond]

Would it help if I had like a box or something like that under the switch?

[velvet summit]

usually switches also have a wall mount option

if you are able to drill in your walls

[strong pond]

I am able but I am really bad when it comes to drilling lol 😂

[velvet summit]

a bubble level makes you look like a professional lol

[sinful blade]

@strong pond Kasumi supports your drilling

[velvet summit]

pro tip for using a bubble level; if you have a bubble level that's too short, but you have a long straight edge, you could level the straightedge with the bubble level and then you have a long level straightedge

alternatively, get a laser level, there are some pretty decent ones for cheap

[strong pond]

That makes

Thank you 😁

@sinful blade well I guess I got to do it now 😁

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-coffee-bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-gif-bocchi-funny-gif-27325558

[high star]

Me

[paper verge]

stable ronaldo

[sinful blade]

…what

@sweet phoenix are hp pavilions proprietary?

[sweet phoenix]

Yes

[sinful blade]

Okay
Good to know

Guy was offering me this

But I wasn’t really into it

[sweet phoenix]

Yeah nah

I'd pass

[sinful blade]

Ye, told him maybe another time

[sweet phoenix]

Those also don't support xmp, so cpu perf gets hit hard

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/keyboard-hyperx-rgb-hyperx-family-hyperx-gaming-gif-17743649

[rancid juniper]

Good morning nerds

[opaque sedge]

(Waiting six minutes to say good afternoon back)

[sinful blade]

I-

@sweet phoenix

I can’t even

[sweet phoenix]

Sounds about right

[opaque sedge]

You should tell him those are the gpus and sell for a lot of money, he might actually try selling them

(Dont do it, its cruel af)

[sinful blade]

I’m helping him find the prices of the stuff he’s trying to sell lol

[opaque sedge]

Also interesting to see ram sticks in the nude

They hot

Get it

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/there-is-help-out-there-for-people-like-you-mr-mackey-south-park-s10e7-tsst-gif-20852879

[opaque sedge]

[devout forum]

There is a CPU guard for AM5

[opaque sedge]

Contact frames?

[devout forum]

no like

Foam CPU guards

that prevent the liquid metal from touching the CPU

https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/cpu-guard/s-tg-cg

[rancid juniper]

You monster

[opaque sedge]

This stuff?

[opaque sedge]

Good afternoon good sir

Thanks for reminding me

Forgot abt it for a sec

[devout forum]

Thermal Grizzly did it first tbf

but I guess?

TG's is more of a foam gasket

they are sold in three-packs

[opaque sedge]

Those look solid ngl

They void any warranties?

Or does lm void it first?

[velvet summit]

Damage from lm would void it since it's user error

I don't think adding a gasket would void it since your not modding the uhh

Cpu bracket

Contact frame does void warranty though afaik

[rancid juniper]

Lel and discord forgot to send notifs

[devout forum]

Contact frame and LM mods do

But you can always just

Reinstall the factory one if you want to sell or RMA

CPU gaskets are harmless

They are removable and don't interfere

[opaque sedge]

Thought you were talking bout the contact frames for a sec 😭

[velvet summit]

How much trust would you put in them to prevent lm

[rancid juniper]

None

[velvet summit]

They are marketed as thermal paste guards

Not lm

[keen shale]

They're harmless until you knock one of the super tiny caps loose.

[opaque sedge]

Honestly the conformal coating sounds like the best solution but doesn’t seem like its worth the effort to liquid cool in the first place

[keen shale]

Low risk but not entirely harmless.

[opaque sedge]

Beautiful

[rancid juniper]

Man, still can't believe that the PGA era is finished from AMD

[opaque sedge]

Did intel ever use pga?

[devout forum]

To be fair

[velvet summit]

Yes

[devout forum]

You'd actively have to try with a foam gasket

[velvet summit]

Intel used PGA way way way way back

[devout forum]

Not impossible but the material is so soft you'd have to apply force with your hand to it

[opaque sedge]

So its almost ancient tech 😭

[velvet summit]

There were even cpus that slotted in like ram

[rancid juniper]

Yes but very long ago

[opaque sedge]

That sounds cool

[rancid juniper]

The fastest pga chip for gaming is definitely the 5800x3d

[devout forum]

probably the fastest ever ngl

[rancid juniper]

Yea

[opaque sedge]

Its still very competitive against modern cpus right?

[velvet summit]

Pentium 3 was the last PGA intel cpu line afaik

[rancid juniper]

5950x if you're going for multi core applications n such

[devout forum]

5800X3D is like 80% the gaming perf of the 7800X3D IIRC

[rancid juniper]

Very

[opaque sedge]

And was the first x3d chip too right?

[devout forum]

I mean it is REALLY good

[velvet summit]

And Pentium 2 was the ram slot looking cpu

[devout forum]

it can run anything short of a 4090 in 1080p

[rancid juniper]

Crazy design but unique

[opaque sedge]

[opaque sedge]

9800x3d has some high expectations now ig

[rancid juniper]

I wonder why the 5950x didn't get the x3d treatment. Maybe they just couldn't fit that 3d-vache or it would just get too unstable regardless

[velvet summit]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slot_1

A bit taller than ram

This design didn't last long lmao

[opaque sedge]

That looks so damn cool lol

[devout forum]

I feel like AMD might skip that ngl

7800X3D is still unbeatable in games

And I doubt those that switched to it would upgrade considering how good the 7800X3D is

[rancid juniper]

AMD is busy fighting itself at this point

[dusk knot]

Hello beautiful people

[rancid juniper]

Ello

[devout forum]

I think we might not get any X3D chips this gen

and get them in a mid-gen refresh in late 2025

[rancid juniper]

Nah I think we would

[devout forum]

So not me
Rude

But
basically 10800X3D

not 9800X3D

[dusk knot]

And those are physically challenged. Hi

[rancid juniper]

💀

[devout forum]

Sup JP

[opaque sedge]

Tru but who knows they may release it as a motivator for people to move to the am5 platform cuz looks like ppl with the 5000 series are still very very comfortable with their builds

[velvet summit]

This is why I don't actually hate Intel switching up their naming because this number would just be redonkulus

[devout forum]

It really depends on how much AMD does the Intel thing and sit on it's laurels

I mean there was a CPU war

But Intel basically dropped out of that for the time being so

Who knows?

[velvet summit]

Nvidia cpus #1

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/Y8ztpM70jEw?si=9fZmYC7BOEkyxgli

[opaque sedge]

I technically paid 200 for my x3d (I didn’t it was in a bundle)

[rancid juniper]

Dayum

Nice

[opaque sedge]

(I was too lazy to switch to the number pad to type 7800 for some reason)

Wait

I did

Tho

[velvet summit]

Type numbers with right hand and x3d with left and right hand

[opaque sedge]

I think i need some sleep

[velvet summit]

X and d are right next to each other

[rancid juniper]

xd

[velvet summit]

Also I hate the number row

It should DIE

[rancid juniper]

I be xd'ing

[velvet summit]

Numpad superiority

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[rancid juniper]

This guy gets it

[velvet summit]

You lied
You paid 204.38

[opaque sedge]

Technically the bundle covered the cost of the mobo

[velvet summit]

Scammed

[opaque sedge]

Its taxed

[velvet summit]

Fraud

[opaque sedge]

200 could be pretax yk

It could be less actually

[rancid juniper]

Imma bring out the cap-o-meter

[opaque sedge]

Wait i’m stupid that is pretax

[velvet summit]

200+tax =226 dollars here

[rancid juniper]

(cap up to 5)
Sorefingertips Cap: 🧢🧢🧢

[opaque sedge]

[velvet summit]

FRAUD

[rancid juniper]

Lmao

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-liar-star-wars-lying-gif-8634649

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-elf-liar-you-sit-on-a-throne-of-lies-gif-17734593

Us poor weggians being deceived

[opaque sedge]

Humanity… disappoints me

The guy even asked v to spare the maelstromers

Apparently in the cyberpunkverse the monks belief is to keep their body pure by staying off of implants

But this guy was kidnapped by gang members

And

U see what happened to him

[storm narwhal]

I killed them all

I wasn't gonna spend my time trying to pacify a small area with like 10 enemies

[opaque sedge]

Christ my states rate is 6% for sales tax

[storm narwhal]

Like what, use a bat and quick melee them at the end?

[opaque sedge]

But well everything else is expensive here such as needs

Like real estate and groceries

[opaque sedge]

Same and the dude i saved wasn’t even grateful, was yapping “you shouldn’t have killed them blah blah blah”

Moments ago the dude was praying to be saved lol

[storm narwhal]

Pls save me

Then why did you save me

[opaque sedge]

Fr

Still felt bad for the brother tho

The one who lost half of his flesh

[storm narwhal]

Yeah the one who got chrome forced into him

They do reappear in a later mission

And one of then is still mad that you killed people

[opaque sedge]

Oh damn which one

[storm narwhal]

Uhhh

It's a mission with Judy

[opaque sedge]

Huh i think i’m on the final mission with her

Yk the diving one

[storm narwhal]

No I don't think I've gotten there yet

Its the one with clouds

I ran into the monks again after it was done

[opaque sedge]

Damn already done with that unfortunately

[storm narwhal]

Sad

[opaque sedge]

Was like 20 game hours ago too so wont make sense to backlog

[storm narwhal]

My monkey brain constantly scanning for loot probably helped me find em ngl

[opaque sedge]

My loot luck sucks lol

Everytime i find loot

Its always iconic cyberdecks and quickhacks lol

I’m in a melee build

[storm narwhal]

No tier 5/4/3/2/1 components and stuff?

[opaque sedge]

Got enough of those

[storm narwhal]

Id say those counts as loot

[opaque sedge]

Have like a 1000 tier 5 components

And crapload of tier 5 weapons that can be foddered

[storm narwhal]

But yeah I don't often find good weapons in the world

Tier 1-3 usually

Well, so far at least

[opaque sedge]

I did get lucky yesterday tho

I found a pair of electric mantis blades in a chest

After i bought the thermal ones…

[craggy vine]

guys what bandwith is better

20MHZ or 40MHZ

[opaque sedge]

[storm narwhal]

Kekw

40MHz

[velvet summit]

40mhz is wider, but for 2.4ghz, the band is so congested/limited that you want 20mhz

[storm narwhal]

Encodes more data but has less range, as per physics

[velvet summit]

for 5ghz, you can set it to 40mhz or 80mhz

[opaque sedge]

Cpu specs?

[storm narwhal]

2.4 should always start at 20MHz

[craggy vine]

ok

ty

[opaque sedge]

Probably not the gpu cuz even the 4090 has a 3k mhz clock speed iirc

[storm narwhal]

You never really use 2.4 on your computer and it's not worth the extra bandwidth

[velvet summit]

2.4ghz for IoT

fr

[storm narwhal]

Yup

5G can be as high as you can choose, judging by distance and number of obstacles between the antenna and router

[velvet summit]

they're talking about the radio frequency for wifi

[velvet summit]

smh saying 5th generation instead of 5ghz

[storm narwhal]

5

[opaque sedge]

Radio frequency immediately reminded me of a cyberpunk quest i did last week 😭

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[opaque sedge]

I should take a break from cyberpunk ngl

[velvet summit]

mans addicted

[storm narwhal]

Fr

[keen shale]

Best thing you can do for your WiFi is use a scanner to see what channels are around you and set your frequency to a channel not being used

[storm narwhal]

Also true

But that costs money

[keen shale]

Nope

[storm narwhal]

Oh no phone apps

[keen shale]

Free WiFi apps available

[storm narwhal]

I forgir

[keen shale]

For windows

[storm narwhal]

O

[velvet summit]

well, also not exactly? depending on your country, some bands are used for radar or whatever so your ap will shut off whenever the gov is using the radar or whatever it was again

[storm narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/terminal-montage-donkey-kong-ah-flashing-lights-bigmouth-gif-15912587

[velvet summit]

so you do want to avoid those channels if you're close enough to one of those

[keen shale]

This is what I use on Windows https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/wifi_information_view.html

[proud jackal]

[keen shale]

And also why I get 1.2 gbps WiFi

[rancid juniper]

Must be nice

[keen shale]

It is very nice, goes very well with my 1.2 gbps cable speeds

and also my home network

[rancid juniper]

Yea

[opaque sedge]

What do u guys think was the most effed up quest in cyberpunk?

I think it was the peralez family’s final quest

[velvet summit]

i havent finished cp

[storm narwhal]

Me neither

I play it in some of my free time

[paper verge]

whats cp

[velvet summit]

nor can i finish it since i played w/ family sharing and that friend hasnt shared their library with me for a long while

[velvet summit]

cyberpunk

[storm narwhal]

Rip

[opaque sedge]

Its like 100 hours for the base game if you go thru every side quest gig and ncpd scanner alerts

[velvet summit]

not the other word

☠️

[paper verge]

yeah i was thinking about how you could possibly finish that

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/traffic-fbi-open-up-raid-gif-13450966

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/miguel-o'hara-spiderman-2099-gif-2499297711314894089

[paper verge]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-d-dr-disrespect-2time-back-to-back-champion-real-funny-not-laughing-gif-15395562

[storm narwhal]

Cod Points

[opaque sedge]

Is this canon guys?

[storm narwhal]

Cp

Iunno

My latest mission was literally the clouds mission lmao

[opaque sedge]

Look even johnny’s being respectful now

[storm narwhal]

I got the cool electric sword

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/federal-investigation-gif-22271245

[paper verge]

the last mision of cyberp i played was me tryna get some gun from a dealer and the game bugged and i couldn't get the gun, so i uninstalled it

[opaque sedge]

Ngl i think this quest traumatized me a bit

Considering how i’m still obsessed with it even after almost a week of completing it

[storm narwhal]

Oh to have that kind of time again lol

[opaque sedge]

You can

Wanna know how

[paper verge]

ofc with the one the only starfield

[opaque sedge]

I was gonna say procrastination cuz life is about sacrificing some things for other things

[paper verge]

boring answer i'll take mine

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-mgs-mgs4-ocelot-liquid-ocelot-gif-18131446

[opaque sedge]

[rancid juniper]

crazy to see a once well known studio fall like this

[sinful blade]

It’s not bungie as a whole
It’s Pete parsons and Sony

[opaque sedge]

Guys…

[sinful blade]

Pete literally privated his Twitter prior to that coming out

[rancid juniper]

huh?

[opaque sedge]

Ngl i should have went with a gre instead of the 7900xt

[rancid juniper]

[opaque sedge]

And its not because of performance reasons

I was just watching YouTube videos on my mbp

And i just sat down in front of my computer

Booted it up

Was immediately disappointed with my monitor

Had i went with a gre i could have afforded an oled monitor

Turns out budgeting for performance isn’t just for the pc tower itself

Dont be like me and also account for peripherals guys

[rancid juniper]

XD

[sinful blade]

Basically
Sony runs bungie
Like, officially
They have total control

[rancid juniper]

yep

[dusk knot]

Bungo

Please nerf fusion rifles

[opaque sedge]

cyberpunk looking mad good today ngl

[proud jackal]

Where ray tracing

[dusk knot]

PT????

[opaque sedge]

also f I gave into my addiction

[opaque sedge]

amd gpu,,,

[proud jackal]

[opaque sedge]

its pure raster tho

no upscaling

[dusk knot]

The future is now.

Embrace Ray tracing an AI upscaling

But the game doesn't look bad at your current settings

Play however you like (:

[opaque sedge]

keanu looks mad good too

[sinful blade]

https://fixupx.com/boxrTailored/status/1818689014087795083?t=kJqxmIwSndvnmlcli1r3IA&s=19

[dusk knot]

Rip

[light egret]

my mouse is haunted

[dusk knot]

Throw it away

Destroy it to

[light egret]

wait nvm there was just a tiny dustball on the lazer lense. Weird though cause it kept jumping back to the same spot on my screen no matter where I put it

[dusk knot]

Lol

[opaque sedge]

So ray tracing just makes these reflections more detailed and also tries to accurately calculate how light rays make objects look?

[light egret]

yeh

[keen shale]

Yes, also light rays when the sun is out and a few other little things

[light egret]

makes light prettier and reflections better

[opaque sedge]

interesting that would mean genrating almost twice the load no?

[light egret]

it is pretty intensive on the gpu, yeh

[keen shale]

no, there are dedicated cores for RT on the GPU. Not necessarily twice the load but a higher load, yes

[opaque sedge]

considering the class lesson i had about light reflections back in 7th grade

light acts super weirdly

[keen shale]

It's also more VRAM intensive

[opaque sedge]

and how it bounces on objects

[light egret]

light physics still boggles my mind

[keen shale]

Like how every star we see in the sky is looking into the past?

[light egret]

that one I just think is super cool

[opaque sedge]

I believe amd gpus have rt cores too right? how was nvidia able to somehow achieve stable performance in rt

[keen shale]

Even our own sun, we're seeing it as it was 8 minutes ago

[opaque sedge]

even from a mid range card like the 4070s

[light egret]

I wish we had FTL so we could send a probe out like 100 million light years away and snap detailed pic of earth and then ftl back and show us

[opaque sedge]

imagine we find post apocalypse alien planets

[light egret]

but then even if we did develope true FTL there's still time dilation stuff

[opaque sedge]

this would be scary cuz it would be from wau far back into the past

[light egret]

I wonder how time dilation would react to the FTL drive nasa proposed where the ship doesn't actually move

cause like the faster you move, the more time slows down. So technically the ship is standing still, but traveling much faster than light. Does time slow down significantly, or does time speed up cause we are technically standing still?

[keen shale]

Technically you're pulling two points of space together and stepping across them. Could work either way. Bending space time is extremely wonky, like getting closer to a black hole slows down time for you. 5 minutes for you is 10 years Earth Time, for example. I'd imagine the FTL would work in a similar way.

[light egret]

yeah that makes sense. FTL sounds dope af but also scary AF. Like imagine going on a 1 year trip and by the time you get back everyone you've ever known or loved is long gone and the world is a completely different place. That's terrifying

[keen shale]

No different than realizing all the stars and light we are seeing in the sky is older than you are and we are literally looking at the past every time we look up

[empty tide]

Some of those stars may already be gone

[keen shale]

Yes, yes they might

All the other galaxies aren't where we see them now either

[light egret]

I mean it is different though. We don't live near the stars. It's neat to think about looking in the past, it would be much different than traveling somewhere for a short time and then coming home only to realize home was gone hundreds of years ago

[keen shale]

The real question is: Would it really be hundreds of years ago or not? Won't know until we actually do it. Pulling space together and stepping across may not slow down or accelerate time at all

[light egret]

yeah I know. I read an article a while back stating we technically have all the resources and knowledge to build it right now here on earth. I want them to just go for it lol

it was something like originally we needed a theoretical element or somethin to power it but then another article came out saying we don't and everything else we need is on earth

[keen shale]

AI already designed a completely new and efficient 20,000 lb thrust rocket nozzle in a few days, won't be long now

[opaque sedge]

bruh he's so smug here 💀

[trail nest]

chat! why is this rtx 4060 so cheap!?!?!?!?!?

[keen shale]

MSI store is cheaper

https://us-store.msi.com/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-GPU/GeForce-RTX-4060-VENTUS-2X-BLACK-8G-OC

[trail nest]

yeah but why is the 4060 so cheap?

it's as expensive as an rtx 3060

but is 3060 better than 4060???

[sinful blade]

No

A decent way to look at stuff

[trail nest]

k

too small i can't see the text on that chart

[sinful blade]

Whatever is higher, is better

[keen shale]

3060 TI = 4060

roughly

[trail nest]

but rtx 4060 is only 8gb gddr

3060 is like 12gb gddr

[keen shale]

Doesn't mean much, there's a lot more to VRAM than just quantity. Bus width is equally important

[sinful blade]

3060 has an 8GB version

If anything, I’d go with a 4060ti in the 60s department

Not too much more expensive, but still kicks butt

[keen shale]

4060 also has frame generation

that 3060 doesn't

[sinful blade]

^

(But I’d also just recommend getting a 3070ti at that point

[keen shale]

4060, even with less VRAM, is roughly 20% faster than the 3060 12 GB

People put far too much weight on VRAM quantity

[sinful blade]

4060ti should fit you fine @trail nest

Unless you wanted something a little older, a 2080ti performs on par with a 3070

With the benefit of 11GB VRAM

[keen shale]

I have yet to run into any VRAM issues with my 3070 OC @1440p even with RT on

[light egret]

What is frame generation?

[proud jackal]

Will Newegg take my degraded 14900k for trade in

[keen shale]

https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-introduces-dlss-3-with-breakthrough-ai-powered-frame-generation-for-up-to-4x-performance

[proud jackal]

@keen shale tempurpedic pillows be heavy

[keen shale]

Yeah, that's why I told you no pillow fights

They're bricks

But oh so comfortable bricks

[mortal grail]

Disagree with that chart

[proud jackal]

You can smother someone to death

[mortal grail]

3090TI is not equivalent to 7900XT

[keen shale]

You can do that with any pillow tho

[mortal grail]

6700XT and 6750XT aren't night and day different either

[proud jackal]

It's a brick, more effective

[keen shale]

Is it comfy for you though?

[proud jackal]

I wasn't tossing and turning as much so I'd say it's better

[keen shale]

Sweet! I love my tempur pillow

You sink just the right amount into it and it's always cold

[proud jackal]

Mines not cold, just not warm

[light egret]

There was a pillow I really wanted at sleep number that was sooooo soft and had a cooling gel on the top. but they wanted like $150 for it

[proud jackal]

It's two of my pillows for $259 rn

[keen shale]

Don't look at Tempur pillows then

[light egret]

the most expensive pillow I've boughten was like $40.

[proud jackal]

Trying to figure out if I want to keep using this microfiber pillow cover or switch to my traditional cotton

[light egret]

most of my pillows have been stolen from my MIL tho

[keen shale]

Silk pillow cover

Best evar

[mortal grail]

In fact I also don't agree with the 4060Ti where it is either

Yeah, went to double check, it's 10% on a good day

Not 10% all the time

It's more often tying with the 3060Ti due to the starved bit bus than it is beating it

[trail nest]

@sinful blade https://www.gpucheck.net/gpu-benchmark-graphics-card-comparison-chart

is this a good graphics card? it's call titan v

[mortal grail]

Disagree with that one too, 4070Ti isn't remotely close to 7900XT unless you put high value in RT

[keen shale]

no

[keen shale]

Do you have a chart you do agree with?

[trail nest]

link me to a better graph chart then

[dusk knot]

[mortal grail]

One in my brain

💀

I could type it out

[trail nest]

if this gpu sux how come it's a $3,000 gpu???

[keen shale]

Cuz it's old and rare

It's basically an OP GTX 980 lol

[trail nest]

wtf $3k for a piece of crap gpu screw that

[devout forum]

Honestly 4070 Ti Super is roughly on par with the 7900XT iirc

[keen shale]

Oh, the Titan V is newer than what I was thinking

Geforce 10 series ish

[devout forum]

It's like slightly faster than a 1080 Ti

[keen shale]

It's an AI card

[devout forum]

But you can't get it new anyway

Pretty sure it goes like 800 bucks on the used market by now

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-hitori-gotou-gif-27239825

[devout forum]

Unless it's a never used one in a sealed box

In which case it's probably cheaper to buy a gold bar that's the same weight as the card

[mortal grail]

4090

XTX

4080/S

7900XT
4070TIS
3090TI/6950XT
4070TI
3090/3080TI
6900XT/7900GRE/4070S (Depends on RT bias which is higher)

7800XT/3080 12GB
6800XT/3080 10GB
4070

6800
7700XT/3070 TI
6700XT/6750XT/3070/2080TI (2080TI bit better tho)

4060Ti/16GB
3060Ti

4060/7600/XT
3060 12GB/6650 XT/6600XT/2080 Super/Titan Xp/1080 Ti
2080/2070 Super

2070/2060 Super
6600/2060/1080

Roughly. Bias shifting Nvidia RT cards from 30 series+ up or down depending on RT bias*

[keen shale]

Gn's GPU chart

[mortal grail]

Need to edit for last gen

[keen shale]

Of course that's just for one game

[mortal grail]

Yeah that looks really close to what I just typed out

But that's just one game

[trail nest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KuxORuIQGI

i'm trying to find a difference

i see nothing

[mortal grail]

4060 can be better

It's again, case of the bus width

It's better at this than the 4060 Ti tho

[devout forum]

Wait the 4060 is not a major generational uplift?
Anyone else that's not surprised?

[mortal grail]

They went uber cheap on bus this gen to save cost

[trail nest]

so ur telling me an 8gb rtx 4060 is way better than a 12gb rtx 3060???

that makes no sense

[mortal grail]

Never said that at all

I said can be

I never said is

[devout forum]

And then jacked the price anyway

[keen shale]

Starfield Benchies

[devout forum]

Which honestly irritates me

They cheapest out and then jacked the price anyway

[keen shale]

At 4K tho

[mortal grail]

When a 4060 can run to full speed it's a slight tick over a 3060 12gb

It's not way faster

[trail nest]

why do people even want an expensive @$$ gpu when they don't even have a 4k monitor

[mortal grail]

It can be better

4050 mobile has this problem as well

[trail nest]

my monitors only go up to 1080p

[mortal grail]

64 bit bus anyone?

[trail nest]

and i am satisfied with 1080p

[light egret]

I run 2 1080p 5ms 60fps monitors so clearly I need a 4090ti

[trail nest]

idk why people wanna play in 4k when it's expensive as shet

[devout forum]

You can play 4k without a 4090

[keen shale]

Dying Light at 1080p benchies

[devout forum]

It's just that you'd have to make some kind of compromise

[light egret]

yeh but you forget about the most important spec that requires a 4090.... Bragging rights

[trail nest]

only bill gates and donald trump can game in 4k ultra

[devout forum]

Hell I'm pretty sure I can find settings and upscaling to use my 6700XT in 4k

[sinful blade]

@mortal grail I suck without having a chart

[keen shale]

4060 is about ~10% faster than 3060 XC

[mortal grail]

When it's not bottlenecked by bus yes

[trail nest]

so does faster mean better?

[devout forum]

Okay, how about a thousand bucks for a 4k-capable PC?

It's definitely doable

[mortal grail]

In workstation however most of 40 series takes a dunk to last gen

[devout forum]

You don't have to be a millionaire to do 4k

[trail nest]

lol $1k for a 4k pc is not doable

[sinful blade]

It is

[mortal grail]

Especially A.I

[devout forum]

Absolutely doable

[sinful blade]

100% doable

[trail nest]

you need at least $4-$5k for a 4k pc

[devout forum]

That's cope my friend

[sinful blade]

No you do not

At all

Are you from pcmr

[mortal grail]

That's not right

[devout forum]

@sinful blade 6700XT can do 4k with some compromise right?

[trail nest]

lol dude i built my pc for near close to $1k and it's not even 4k

[devout forum]

When, in 2010?

[mortal grail]

My lowest maxed out pc was $2400 for 7800X3D/4090 last year

[trail nest]

in 2018

[mortal grail]

Rn it clocks about 2600

[devout forum]

Yeah half a decade old midrange hardware can't 4k

[light egret]

im pretty sure a 3060 or equivelant can do 4k at around 60fps, can't it?

[devout forum]

Like duh

[mortal grail]

Not in anything like, 6 years or younger

[devout forum]

It's gonna be iffy but you can upscale

I'm fairly sure my 6700XT would do 4k med at 30+ mins

And I spend 1500 USD on my PC in Eastern Europe where pricing is dogwater

In the US the same PC would be like 900 bucks

[light egret]

yeah that's fair I haven't really gamed anything newish in like 3-4 years and I haven't had a monitor above 1080p in like 4-5 years lol

[trail nest]

hrmmmmm so can a 3060 do vr gaming?

[mortal grail]

In any recent AAA you won't

[light egret]

yeh

[trail nest]

cuz right now i have 3050 and it can't do vr gaming

[mortal grail]

If you could then I'd be doing way more than 60 myself

[devout forum]

I mean as I said
With some compromising on detail and life finally upscaling

But it CAN do 4k

[mortal grail]

I'm talking 4K low with upscaling

I'm saying no, period

💀

[devout forum]

It's not gonna be PCMR 4k
But it's a thing

[light egret]

I could do vr on a 970. Some games had issues but the 2070 got rid of those issues. vr on a 3060 should be fine

[devout forum]

Lots of things are possible
The real question is what you want to achieve

[trail nest]

what's the difference between 4k gaming and 1080p gaming? i don't really see any difference at all??? are the pixels suppose to pop out on screen in 4k gaming or something? and look realistic???

[devout forum]

And how janky are you willing to go

[mortal grail]

More pixels = more difficult

[devout forum]

Tell me you have never seen a proper 4k screen without saying you didn't

[trail nest]

hrmmm i see

[trail nest]

i've seen 4k tv's at walmart

[devout forum]

1080p to 4k is massive jump in quality

[mortal grail]

Keep it above the belt pls lol

[trail nest]

i've never seen a 4k monitor gaming though

[light egret]

put a 4k and 1080p next to each other and there is a noticeable difference, especially since the monitor is so close to you. The difference isn't end all be all but it is noticable. I still stand that anything higher than 1440 is unneccesary tho

[devout forum]

I might be a bit irate rn
So I'll just disengage

[trail nest]

i'd wanna see what a game being played looks like on a 4k monitor

[keen shale]

2K gaming is a very happy medium

[mortal grail]

Ok, so, 4K maxed out PC

no compromises

$2543*

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qzqvBL

Ohp I mixed the colours at some point

[proud jackal]

Where's the intel

[light egret]

It's a lot harder to notice the diff between 1440p and 4k than 1080p and 1440p. The more important thing IMO would be response time and refresh rate. Those are things I thought I wouldn't actually notice but make a huge difference

[light egret]

in the trash where it belong

[mortal grail]

New price $2543

💀

The cheapest that combo has managed to be is about $2400 last year, when the 3090 dropped to 1500-ish

[devout forum]

@mortal grail actually
Can you build a 4090 gaming PC for $5432?

[mortal grail]

I could

[devout forum]

For the lolz

[mortal grail]

But why

Eh

Lemme just start jamming in more 4090's then

[devout forum]

I'm curious how much you'd have to overspend without multi-GPU to get to Origin PC level costs

[light egret]

run 2 4090s in SLI

[mortal grail]

There we go

[devout forum]

Triple GPU is cheating tho

I mean, Matrix 4090 exists

[mortal grail]

Well I wouldn't go anywhere above $3000 to begin with even if I had an unlimited budget

[devout forum]

Matrix 4090 +14900K

;3

[mortal grail]

Matrix is a joke

Strix with liquid metal

HoF is better, IF you use it properly

[devout forum]

Yes but it costs more

So it helps my case

[mortal grail]

I still wouldn't buy it

If I had the choice to buy a gun even if it was free, the answer is no

My moral standpoint is I wouldn't at all

[mortal grail]

Hmmm updated but I'm a bit on the fence where I'd put 7600/XT

Let alone the 3060/4060 around it

Due to the obnoxious bit bus issues

Can't remember where I'd put 2070

That's better

That's not too bad

[mortal grail]

@keen shale @trail nest

It may have shifted over the last couple months a bit but when I was pouring over all the GPU's for relative numbers a while ago, that was more or less what I ended up with

And that's me not putting a ton of bias to RT at all, since a vast majority of people don't prefer RT if it means a huge performance hit

So a lot of the nvidia cards would shift up a notch if you put more weight to that half

[light egret]

this test is dumb. It ask how would you list only .exe files and display the results in order of date? I typed

dir /o:d *.exe
Which works. The only correct answer is
dir *.exe /o:d
If they both do the same thing, why am I wrong

[mortal grail]

If I preferred pure raster completely that chart would shift the other direction

XTX would be a lot closer to the 4090 tbh

[mortal grail]

If they both work why is one wrong

[light egret]

that's what I am sayin

[mortal grail]

Computers are a black and white thing

[light egret]

comptia is full of weird things like that

[mortal grail]

If it works it works

That is the binary correct

It will error if it didn't

[light egret]

lemme ask you this. Which one do you think is correct?

A user cannot connect to the network printer, and you verify that the printer is powered on and connected to the network. What is your next step?
A. Restart the printer.
B. Check the user's network connection
C. Update the printer driver on the user's computer
D. Check the printer's IP address

[opaque sedge]

Interesting a lot of people still prefer smth like the 4080 super tho at that price range right? Its apparently the best selling gpu at my local micro

[mortal grail]

Updated it again

[mortal grail]

As I said, it depends on your weight to RT

I will pick a $950 4080/S over a $920 XTX quite easily

The other features that you gain to 40 series there make a big difference

Everything from blender to workstation

[opaque sedge]

Cheapest 4080s i’ve ever seen is 980 😭

[mortal grail]

It becomes valid imo when the difference is within $50

[opaque sedge]

Wbt an 835 xtx?

[mortal grail]

Cheapest 4080 I think I've seen was the zotac at like, 900 or 850

[mortal grail]

The cheaper the better, but 7900XT is always better when this happens

[opaque sedge]

This is a prized pic in my favorites folders

[mortal grail]

iirc at the time the 7900XT was like 680

Which is plain better

[opaque sedge]

650 was the cheapest one brand new

[mortal grail]

Yeah that's just better

[opaque sedge]

It was an asrock phantom black

[mortal grail]

16% gain for so much more cash is not worth

[opaque sedge]

I was abt to exchange my sapphire for it but it got sold out at micro

Rn the asrock phantoms hover around 690-700

The white is really great if peeps wanna go for that all white build

[mortal grail]

Indeed it is

[devout forum]

Felix what's the meta currently between the 7900 XT and XTX?

Is the upsell on the XTX (and the higher power supply requirements) worth it?

[light egret]

The answer is supposedly B. Check the user's network connection. But then in this question, which is essentially the same thing,

A user reports that they are receiving a "printer offline" message when trying to print. You verify that the printer is powered on and connected to the network. What should you check next?
A. The printer’s IP address
B. The printer’s ink or toner levels
C. The printer driver on the user’s computer
D. The print queue
The answer is A. The printer's IP address.

or there was a question that was like "A user is having issues with their monitor not displaying anything. You can SEE THAT THE MONITOR LIGHT IS ON, and that the PC is powered on. What's the first thing you check?" The answer is the monitor power cable. If I can see it has power, Why would my first assumption be the power cable?

[mortal grail]

XT every time

[mortal grail]

Would be display cable imo

Not power

Lol

[light egret]

That's what I chose and it was wrong

[mortal grail]

????

Challenge whoever this test maker is

[light egret]

I was complaining to a friend who already got his A+ cert. Apparently that exact question is on the test, and he got it wrong too cause the answer to comptia is the power cable.

It's comptia, the like big well known IT guys who everyone wants you to have a cert from in order to get into IT.

[trail nest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2y6vCxHCMc

ok can someone explain to me how an 8gb rtx 4060 is outputting around 58fps on horizon forbidden west compared to the 12gb rtx 3060 which is only outputting up to 50fps???

like it makes no sense cuz the 3060 has 12gb of gddr6

[keen shale]

Don't focus on VRAM

More VRAM =/= more speed

[trail nest]

why? doesn't more vram mean more fps

[keen shale]

or performance

no

Unless you're playing at 4K resolution, forget about VRAM

[trail nest]

so it's better to get a 4060 over a 3060 even though the 4060 only has 8gb vram?

cuz imma bout to walk over to walmart right now

and get a 4060 if that's the case

[mortal grail]

Again, bit bus is the entire reason

Vram you shouldn't need more than 8 for 1080p

[trail nest]

hrmmmm, what is bit bus?

[keen shale]

Too many nuances for VRAM other than MORE = BETTER

[mortal grail]

8gb @ 1080p = problem game

[trail nest]

so a 12gb vram at 1080p resolution is bad?

[mortal grail]

It's the part that sends all the data over pcie

[keen shale]

no, the older GPU core at 1080P is wsorse

[mortal grail]

Never said bad, just not worth emphasis

[trail nest]

i've always wanted a gpu with more than 8gb gddr6

[keen shale]

Which is why less performance

[trail nest]

hahaha

[mortal grail]

When that part is bottlenecked, it won't run full speed, hence, 4060 can be matched

12gb vram is often not the reason they match

Cos again

[mortal grail]

.

[trail nest]

@mortal grail do you think an rtx 4060 will run black myth wukong well when the game comes out in august???

[mortal grail]

There's only like 1 or 2 games that ask for more than 8gb at 1080p in the wild rn that hasn't been retroactively patched

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

[mortal grail]

My personal suggestion, if you can afford 4060, go 6700XT

At least then the main gain is not vram

[trail nest]

but i heard black myth wukong is gonna be graphically intensive

[keen shale]

This is the "recommended hardware" for BMW: GPU:NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060, AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, or INTEL Arc A750 (recommended)

So most likely, yes

[mortal grail]

So is X game in the next Y months, as is every other game that failed to win an award in 2023

You're overthinking things

[trail nest]

lol kk

[mortal grail]

6700XT will flatten a 4060 anyway

Get that instead

A 60 card won't do a great job of RT

Despite what it may seem, almost every card under the 3080 can barely do reasonable RT

[trail nest]

do i need to uninstall my geforce experience if i get 6700xt

[keen shale]

RT isn't worth it really anyway, still kinda smoke and mirrors thing until it's more developed. DLSS is where nVidia shines. I don't think AMD's version is quite as good

[mortal grail]

yes

?ddu

[topaz crown]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[mortal grail]

^use this

[mortal grail]

Though, I've heard AFMF 2 is great

[trail nest]

if i get 6700xt i wanna uninstall nvidia driver correctly so i do not have to factore reset pc

[mortal grail]

No

Use DDU

DDU will do it correctly

Use the guide I linked

[trail nest]

what is DDU

[mortal grail]

Display driver uninstaller

It's made specifically for the purpose

[trail nest]

is it a program i need to download?

[keen shale]

yes, click the link, ful linstructions with DL link

[trail nest]

ok. i also use revo uninstaller application when i want to remove apps completely on my pc without leaving junk file traces will revo uninstaller work too?

[keen shale]

SHould work, never tried it for GPU drivers tho

[mortal grail]

Revo I can't recommend

It may work, it may not

Never tried it for gpu drivers

DDU I can swear on my life though works

[light egret]

never heard of revo, but I know ddu is trusted and prevents problems. It's the safe route to go. You could also theoretically just manually uninstall the nvidia driver and then install the amd driver, but ddu is supposed to protect against problems like the windows default display driver not kicking in and stuff

[keen shale]

Ya, I've used Revo for a ton of other things but always use DDU for GPU stuff

[mortal grail]

Yeah DDU is designed for this purpose specifically

Highly trusted

[trail nest]

lol i actually pay for revo cuz i hate when i uninstall games and it leaves random files behind

and revo actually gets rid of those random files for me

[light egret]

I mean uninstalling a display driver shouldn't leave traces of the driver behind. You might still have like, nvidia experience if you have that, but the driver itself should be completely gone

[keen shale]

It's also recommended to use it in Safe mode with No Networking so Windows doesn't grab drivers as you delete them.

[light egret]

I've never done that part lol

I just run it regularly

[keen shale]

I do if I'm switching GPU brands

[light egret]

I can see why you reccomend that though

[keen shale]

I've had windows auto install new drivers as soon as I've uninstalled them lol, makes me mad

[light egret]

doesnt DDU just install the normal windows driver anyways?

[keen shale]

No, it's an Uninstaller

Not an installer

[light egret]

oh wait are you saying windows will try to grab the old driver for nvidia? for me it was always the generic windows display driver

which the new driver overwrites

[keen shale]

No, it will Auto Detect new hardware and grab the latest one from it's repository

It will install the generic driver just so you have a picture

[trail nest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy-FV0rfiQs

[mortal grail]

You should so you swap to the windows default driver for display

That's the biggest premise of DDU, it adds tons of stability by doing it off the default driver

[trail nest]

@mortal grail my cpu is amd so do you think that having an amd radeon gpu would pair nicely with the amd gpu?

[mortal grail]

Really doesn't mean anything imo

[keen shale]

Nope

[trail nest]

hrmmm kk

[light egret]

I mean I will in the future if I need to, but in the past I've always gotten the windows default driver from DDU in normal boot mode lol

[mortal grail]

I've seen enough pc's fail it to be wary lol

[light egret]

I prob wont be changing my GPU for quite a few years now tho lol

I mean yeah fair. I've seen it happen here. I've just not had that problem lol

guess I am lucky

[keen shale]

MIght do GPU with nVidia 5000 series, just did my CPU so that's next

[light egret]

Granted I've done a lot of things that aren't reccomended and never really had an issue

[keen shale]

I upgrade a major part every 2 years or so and my GPU is 3 years old now

[light egret]

I aint got money to upgrade every 2 years lol

[keen shale]

It's why I rotate parts upgrades like that, keep it "cheaper"

[mortal grail]

Yeah upcycling is the easier way to do it

[trail nest]

guys my motherboard is an AM4 motherboard so can is till upgrade the cpu or no?

[keen shale]

Wife gets the "hand me downs" since they're still decent, except this last round. She has a 10700K and my 3700x is close enough to not bother with upgrading her.

[light egret]

What CPU do you have?

[keen shale]

Ryzen 5000 is the newest you can use

[trail nest]

i have ryzen 5 5600x

[mortal grail]

past 57/800X3D, not really

[keen shale]

Can't use 7000 or 9000 series

[mortal grail]

Meh would flip to next gen imo

If you can

[trail nest]

what is the next gen?

[mortal grail]

7600 + a nice B650m/a620m/a620i

32GB DDR5

<CL32

[trail nest]

so next gen is AM5 boards?

[mortal grail]

Yes

[trail nest]

ohhh ok

[mortal grail]

It adds up to about, 450-ish

But you can offset that with selling your old stuff

Would I say that over a 6700XT? depends on the current gpu

[trail nest]

so what would happen if i put in an AM4 CPU into an AM5 board?

would it still fit?

[mortal grail]

You make the reddit front page for trying 💀

Like the other guy did

[trail nest]

lol

[keen shale]

I mean, trying to stuff the pins into an LGA socket might be fun

[mortal grail]

Very quickly learning what doesn't fit in the square hole in the process

💀

[keen shale]

Everything fits in the square hole.

[light egret]

lol am4 pins are on cpu, am5 pins are on mobo, even if they were both on cpu, it wouldn't be compatible and you'd break pins for trying

[light egret]

what other guy? was it here or on reddit that this happened?

[mortal grail]

PCMR reddit

Lad tried to put..I think it was a 5800X3D? In an AM5 socket

Might've been 5900X

Memory is foggy at this point

Board was an Asus strix

(But of course it is)

[light egret]

I cannot find it lol

[mortal grail]

it's hard to find

Hold on

[light egret]

I mean I found this https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/zp5oqb/ryzen_9_5900x_in_an_am5_motherboard/

[fervent gull]

I'm about to just pull the pin on a grenade and toss it inside my PC

[light egret]

what's wrong with it

[mortal grail]

Dammit I got close

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/x7irkj/customer_states_pc_does_not_post_just_turns_on/

[opaque sedge]

@mortal grail ik i’m a bit late in asking but kinda have to ask out of curiosity 7900gre build with a oled 1440p monitor or a 7900xt build with a basic 1440p ips. Which one would you pick

[mortal grail]

GRE with oled

[light egret]

that is horrifying

[opaque sedge]

F

For me ofc

[mortal grail]

Save for your oled

[opaque sedge]

Yup saving ofc

[opaque sedge]

Omg

Wth

My eyes

They hurt

Also that poor socket

[mortal grail]

Man I just can't find this

[keen shale]

I couldn't find it either

[mortal grail]

💀

Close

[opaque sedge]

Guys

I think i found the laptop from cyberpunk

https://youtube.com/shorts/8gH3M31bE70?si=NO5MqWkq08QoV_9L

Not the same color unfortunately

[opaque sedge]

You should visit the lianli sub you would||n’t|| love it there

[mortal grail]

It's eating at me now

I specifically remember talking to Sips about this

Lol

[opaque sedge]

Its peak ratio of 1:100 for price to performance there

1 for performance ofc

[mortal grail]

GAAAHHHDDD SO CLOSEEE

https://www.reddit.com/r/PcBuildHelp/comments/1dnxcon/did_i_get_the_wrong_cpu/

[opaque sedge]

The fact he was still trying and even applied thermal paste 😭

D for effort atleast?

Or is it still an F?

[mighty hazel]

💀

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726477250131787837/1263669783786684521/IMG_4837.png?ex=669b13b2&is=6699c232&hm=61aa973428a304865964157deaf2150b9aa66fabccdbc4787e354c46987ba5e6&

[sinful blade]

How would I go about making my old cpu into a necklace

[opaque sedge]

@mortal grail upside down mobo build

Strangely enough

It looks good lol

[mortal grail]

That's how I have the o11 evo set up as

[opaque sedge]

Interesting the top intake and bottom exhaust?

Or is it a custom loop?

[mortal grail]

I think a holepunch works if you do the silicon?

[mortal grail]

Bottom intake top exhaust

[opaque sedge]

Ngl we talk about pc builds here as if we’re talking about cars in a car meet

[opaque sedge]

Ohhh does that interfere with the gpu air flow or nah?

[mortal grail]

Omg where is this reddit post

[mortal grail]

vert mount so no

[opaque sedge]

I need to see that build

Like is it vertically mounted from the top

Or from the bottom

[mortal grail]

from the top

I think I've shown you before

[opaque sedge]

That gpu is hanging in there

Get it

[mortal grail]

I'm in the process of changing it to upright

[opaque sedge]

[opaque sedge]

Nah you showed me the custom loop one

[mortal grail]

That's the one

[opaque sedge]

Damn

[mortal grail]

It's inverted

[opaque sedge]

Found it

#general-chat message

[mortal grail]

DAMMIT I THOUGHT IT WAS THE REDDIT POST

WAIT

I think I found it???

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/yo5yce/building_a_pc_right_now_the_cpu_chip_arrow_it/

@keen shale @trail nest

It might be this one

It's not the same photos I remember though

💀

[keen shale]

Oh, not that one

She didn't actually put the CPU in the socket

[sinful blade]

But like
Would I need to sand it down?

[keen shale]

second pic is a different board

[mortal grail]

No same board

[keen shale]

Is it?

[mortal grail]

Top right

The barcode matches

[keen shale]

Oh, she just set it on there

Didn't clamp it

[mortal grail]

Yeah it mightn't be her

The one I remember was 90 degrees rotated and crushed pins, clamped

💀

[keen shale]

Also DDR4 ram for that board, would have been interesting

[opaque sedge]

Ofc the list has a fancy nzxt case

[mortal grail]

*paperweight

[opaque sedge]

Its under 100?

[mortal grail]

H510 is a hotbox

[opaque sedge]

this thing?!?

[mortal grail]

Yup

[opaque sedge]

Holy crap

Where is the mesh

[mortal grail]

Nowadays if it's not free, there's always a better choice

[keen shale]

H510 is hot poo, literally hot

[opaque sedge]

Where is it getting air from guys?!?

Certified bruh moment?

[mortal grail]

The back

The front is completely useless if you put an aio on it

[opaque sedge]

For both nzxt and me

[opaque sedge]

No way 😭

[mortal grail]

Mhm

It uses negative pressure to cycle from least resistance

Which is infact the rear mesh

[opaque sedge]

Looks like the advertised pic has one of those closed loop shrouds for the gpu

[pseudo raven]

id get the h510 flow ngl

always liked how the nzxt cases looked

[opaque sedge]

Interesting so its a crap product which only works for niche cooling solutions

But when spending that much money on a case

[mortal grail]

Flow is ok, but it's still a case that always has a better option

[opaque sedge]

Might be better to go for the king 95

[mortal grail]

All flow cases have better options

[pseudo raven]

for something with clean minimal looks?

idk

especially at 90

i guess you do need to spend money on fans

[opaque sedge]

I like the look of this

Is also 80 bucks

And comes with the fans i think

[mortal grail]

Subjective, not calling it a bad design

[pseudo raven]

h yeah i forgot that thing exists

[opaque sedge]

Need to check on the fans

[pseudo raven]

that was the other case i wish i got

this looks great tbh

idk how having the grill in the back would affect airflow though

doesnt seem optimal

[mortal grail]

Just another intake

[proud jackal]

[pseudo raven]

$110 for this

[proud jackal]

Poke holes in glass

[opaque sedge]

Interesting looks like this one is compatible with those “wireless” mobos

[pseudo raven]

i have an ugly black cooler master

forgot what its called

[opaque sedge]

Ofc the dude who likes grinding cpus suggests this

[pseudo raven]

td500

[proud jackal]

Grinding CPUs?

[opaque sedge]

The exposed 7800x3d

[sinful blade]

I’m gonna grind you

[opaque sedge]

Or was that smn else

[proud jackal]

That wasn't me

[sinful blade]

UwU

[opaque sedge]

👁️👄👁️

[opaque sedge]

Huh who was it then?

I remember almost crying when i saw that

although it was done for creative custom cooling solution from smn who had experience with it

Still hurt to look at

[mortal grail]

@keen shale @trail nest @opaque sedge