general-chat

[misty sparrow]

24GB enough?

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine how much you could've sold it for

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

Usually

[gentle canyon]

i was like 15 i didnt know anything

[hoary zodiac]

As long as you don't install mods with broken memory usages

[misty sparrow]

I could’ve sold mine on eBay in 2020 too

[hoary zodiac]

Wait how old are you now

[gentle canyon]

19

[misty sparrow]

But no one would’ve bought my prebuilt lol

[hoary zodiac]

Oh wow

[gentle canyon]

real

[hoary zodiac]

05 I see

[gentle canyon]

this was my prebuilt https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-3-2300x-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-570-1tb-hdd-240gb-ssd-black/6362425.p?skuId=6362425

[gentle canyon]

mhm

[hoary zodiac]

06 here

[gentle canyon]

you child

[hoary zodiac]

Turned 18 earlier this year

[misty sparrow]

you got lucky with your prebuilt…mine I got had only a 500GB HDD stock

[hoary zodiac]

lol

You should see my first pc

[misty sparrow]

so I then replaced it with a 4TB HDD

[gentle canyon]

im pretty sure i just remember asking for that one cause i liked how it looked

was fortunate enough to get it for christmas

[hoary zodiac]

Core 2 Quad Q9400
HD 7850
4GB RAM
128GB SSD
1TB HDD

Had this until like

2018

[rancid juniper]

🗿🗿🗿

[hoary zodiac]

It's a toaster by today's standards but surprisingly useable even in 2018

[misty sparrow]

To be fair

At least the government raised minimum connection speed requirements

[rancid juniper]

bruh

[worthy meteor]

Look at details for upload speeds, sometimes it's like 300/20

[hoary zodiac]

That peacock subscription tho

[misty sparrow]

okay this is bad

[hoary zodiac]

AHAHAHAHAH

[rancid juniper]

XD

[hoary zodiac]

$95 for 300mbps

Pffffff

[misty sparrow]

what provider is this

[worthy meteor]

Rip

[rancid juniper]

xfinity

[hoary zodiac]

Would be better off with a 5G router at that point

They're actually pretty good if the plans are cheap

[rancid juniper]

currently my parents are still with the 50mbps $10 plan

[misty sparrow]

yeah of course they’re bad speeds they aren’t Xfinity, it’s actually Xfinite

[rancid juniper]

💀

[hoary zodiac]

I lived off one for a bit

[worthy meteor]

They give us like 300/20 for $30 a month iirc, gotta switch services for any better upload

[misty sparrow]

At least they’re not Cox

[rancid juniper]

sounds really nice

[worthy meteor]

The upload sucks a lot

[misty sparrow]

If you look at Cox they have data caps on internet usage

2TB I think

[worthy meteor]

The price is decent though

[hoary zodiac]

Lol

You guys should see the "6"/1 plan I had

[rancid juniper]

can you actually negotiate with your isp for better prices?

[hoary zodiac]

Back in 2020

[rancid juniper]

hmmm

[misty sparrow]

negotiate how

they’ll just sit you in a waiting list with call music for hours

[idle nexus]

sometimes they hook you up with whatever promotion they're currently running

[rancid juniper]

idk pulling the, "ive been your customer for over 10 years card?"

[idle nexus]

but then they hit you with the everyday prices like 6 months later

[rancid juniper]

RIP

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine using DSL in 2024 tho

💀

[rancid juniper]

that still exists?

lel

[hoary zodiac]

Yes

[rancid juniper]

L

[misty sparrow]

just like AOL email addresses

I forgot those are still around

[rancid juniper]

😂

[hoary zodiac]

DSL is in areas where the ISPs are too cheap to lay down new cables

[misty sparrow]

rural areas?

[hoary zodiac]

Typically

Tho nowadays if they have 5G coverage then they could switch over to that

Have to be actually in range of a tower tho

5G is a blessing for rural homes near towers

[idle nexus]

my dad still uses an @bellsouth.net email

I'm like dad, it's time to let go but he refuses

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine one day

If gmail becomes obsolete

[idle nexus]

actually my parents kept using AT&T for years out of fear he'd lose the email address lmao

[idle nexus]

leave my @yahoo.com email address alone lol

[hoary zodiac]

yahoo screams 2000s

[idle nexus]

in high school we made @excite.com emails

[hoary zodiac]

Damn

[idle nexus]

lol ya I'm that old

heck, in high school for me, people still used AIM

[misty sparrow]

Not for those who believe the 5G hoaxes though

[hoary zodiac]

💀

[misty sparrow]

“5G causes COVID-19 ecks dee durr”

[icy ore]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-gif-23580102

[amber raptor]

Once you close your ATT line they actually do revoke that email.

[amber raptor]

No 5g coverage, only option is short distance wireless provided from a tower a bit away that had an internet service.

[amber raptor]

Only option un a solid 1/3rd of my state at least.

[idle nexus]

he still has it. Apparently, AT&T sent all those email addresses to yahoo to host at some point

[amber raptor]

He's lucky then we lost ours.

Complete loss of access even through yahoo.

[idle nexus]

at some point after that they yahoo moved them to something called "Currently"

oh aparently Currently is still AT&T I dunno

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/?err=404&err_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcurrently.att.yahoo.com%2FsetImmediate%240.053521041515241174%242

[idle nexus]

oh you know what tho, I bet they still have it because they still have AT&T for cell phones

& that email is how they access their account iirc

[unreal trail]

dang

[amber raptor]

More than likely, only thing we had was DSL because their cell service just doesnt work in 90% of this area.

[idle nexus]

well I'm sorry if you lost anything important, but based on my experience, it's probably better in the long run. He's constantly having issues with various nonsense

every 3-6 months his Outlook goes bananas & his password doesn't work

it's just a mess

[amber raptor]

outlook is a nightmare.

MS killing the windows mail app has been hell at work.

[velvet summit]

Still no idea why they killed the perfectly fine old one

I have adjusted to using the new one, but I still would rather use the old one

[amber raptor]

no idea. forced the entire company i work for to switch to an app that doesnt work correctly.

[mental yoke]

OMG

Cyberpunk 2077 is $30!!

Imma get it

[amber raptor]

i cant tell you how many important emails ive missed from finance or my GM that are marked as important that get filtered wrong or i dont get notifications correctly.

[craggy shoal]

this makes no sense

so

I go to get cereal. there's like five boxes of cereal in the pantry

NO MILK

[mental yoke]

…

[craggy shoal]

WE DON'T HAVE MILK

[mental yoke]

You need milk

[rancid juniper]

._.

[velvet summit]

He needs some milk

[craggy shoal]

THAT MAKES NO SENSE

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/he-needs-milk-fall-gif-9637606

[rancid juniper]

how you have no milk doe?

[mental yoke]

HOW DO YOU FORGET MILK

[craggy shoal]

I DO

[amber raptor]

im sitting here laughing cause im drinking a 52oz bottle of chocolate milk 😂

[craggy shoal]

so like a half-gallon? 😭

[amber raptor]

almost

[mental yoke]

Need some?

[craggy shoal]

yes

I'm so annoyed

I just wanted cereal

[rancid juniper]

bread

[proud jackal]

use water

[rancid juniper]

theo eats cereal with water confirmed

[craggy shoal]

this guy eats cereal with water 💀

[dusk knot]

H

[craggy shoal]

H

[dusk knot]

Horrid thought

[misty sparrow]

if someone's currently in a counterstrike match, will their friends list status show they're in a match?

[velvet summit]

why are your milks not in bags smh yall so weird

[misty sparrow]

i'm not sure if someone i know is sitting in the main menu or is currently in a match

[mental yoke]

Do you have them on discord? Cuz if you do it’ll tell you I think

[craggy shoal]

mf has bagged milk 💀

this guy is Canadian lollll look at this guy 💀 😭

[unreal trail]

[rancid juniper]

This is mad cursed

[craggy shoal]

Just get the K and don't OC it

[idle nexus]

lmfao the non-K is actually stable tho

[craggy shoal]

I think the non-K runs at like 65W max

[rancid juniper]

I barely see any proper reviews of the non k

Baffling

[idle nexus]

because if you're gonna spend i9 money

it makes no sense not to get the unlocked one

[rancid juniper]

Nah that tdp is probably a lie, could probably turbo up to 253w if it has to

[craggy shoal]

I think there's also a 13900T that (they say) runs at 35W 💀

an i9 running at 35W is crazy

[rancid juniper]

I9 at 35w???

💀

[idle nexus]

I mean, maybe if like someone's grandma called them up & said, "I want you to build me a computer with one of those fancy i9s in it" then you might opt for the simplicity of the... I can't even finish this. In the entire world that's probably happened like 3x ever

[craggy shoal]

maximum turbo is 106W 😭
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/230498/intel-core-i9-13900t-processor-36m-cache-up-to-5-30-ghz.html

[rancid juniper]

Lol

[craggy shoal]

still less than my i7 base TDP

[rancid juniper]

Intel lying again

[idle nexus]

you know what's a beast tho the 12600HX

apparently it's a desktop CPU that Intel put into laptops for workstations or something but it's full size

[rancid juniper]

12600HighX-perience

[idle nexus]

so you can drop that bad boy in an LGA1700 & kill it on hwbot for 4 core lol

[rancid juniper]

Heh

[rancid juniper]

I wonder if Intel's next chips for desktop ends up being "efficient"

Highly doubt that tho

[idle nexus]

oh heck look at that 4th one

I found a little gem inside my G7400 yesterday

[rancid juniper]

Fast pentimeme

[craggy shoal]

the fact that it's a Pentium 💀

[craggy shoal]

pffft

[rancid juniper]

i wonder how fast ur OC'd pentium is in singlethread (CINEBENCH R24)

[rancid juniper]

no efficient cores!?!?! cpu is a guzzler

😂

[craggy shoal]

a whopping 2 threads to go with those 2 cores

[idle nexus]

I don't think it'll run higher than like 5500mhz ish

well it won't run 5700mhz actually

I just realized that ycruncher was at 5661mhz

153mhz bclk ftw

what's odd is the ring ratio max is 33x which at 153mhhz bclk is 5049mhz

yet if I leave it on auto, it runs at 5202

go figure

heck I"m gonna run core ratio on auto & see what it does lol

[rancid juniper]

I run my bclk at fixed speeds (100mhz)

No decimals, just fixed number

I despised the 99.87

[idle nexus]

there's no reason to run it higher unless your core ratios are locked

[rancid juniper]

Ye

[idle nexus]

lol I haaaaaaaated that on 5900x

if you run on cmd: bcedit /set hypervisorlaunchtype off

it stays at 100mhz all the time

no idea why

but it does

[rancid juniper]

I set mines locked via bios

Everything kept me satisfied thus far

[idle nexus]

BIOS is ignoring me rn

[rancid juniper]

Lol rip

[idle nexus]

I had 101mhz set for bclk but it's at 100mhz

probably better tho cuz I dunno if this memory controller can handle anything past 3200

tbh I never tried tho

I wonder if I can POST 6600 1:1 UCLK:MCLK

[rancid juniper]

Ram...

[idle nexus]

I couldn't get 6400 to run before

[misty sparrow]

no

[mental yoke]

Oof

[idle nexus]

heckin Win11 IoT keeps acting strange

[rancid juniper]

Bindos

[light egret]

I know it's not really at risk, but that milk sitting a little bit off the edge like that is making me so uncomfortable.

[mental yoke]

I moved it after I took the pic

U got nothing to worry about

[light egret]

https://tenor.com/view/hammaya-relaxed-relax-mr-bean-gif-gif-604132771586296524

[wraith fern]

this explains a lot

been wondering why my gpus been so much hotter recently

i guess its zip tie another fan to the gpu time!

[dusk knot]

theo_cooks

[rancid juniper]

Theo_sweats

[dusk knot]

were suffering to

honestly it wasnt too bad today

[rancid juniper]

Glad I didn't get grilled

[dusk knot]

decent weather

[idle nexus]

manually set fan curve in Afterburner

[wraith fern]

fans dead

lol

[idle nexus]

dodged that bullet

[idle nexus]

you sure? does it have a BIOS switch? iirc my EVGA FTW 3070 does & one profile is silent

getting that picture was harder than it should have been ngl

[wraith fern]

90% sure? i'll check

[light egret]

im trying to figure out what im looking at

what component is that on

[wraith fern]

looks like its under the gpu power cable

[light egret]

huh. I don't have one but my gpu has a port on it i've never seen before.

no idea what it does

[vale hedge]

Let’s go they are finally building a microcenter near me

Yipeeee

[light egret]

[wraith fern]

i wish i could say the same

[idle nexus]

GPU

there's a waterblock for memory trying very hard to block my picture

[light egret]

moving away from microcenter is one of my biggest regrets

for memory? like memory on the gpu?

don't gpu waterblocks usually cover the whole thing?

[idle nexus]

here's more zoomed out to hopefully help it make sense

[light egret]

wait you watercooled your ram?

[idle nexus]

yes. yes I did

[light egret]

lmao

why

[idle nexus]

but that's not my daily PC

that's the PC on the floor to the right of me I almost never use lol

[vale hedge]

I got a 7900 xtx and 7800x3d build at microcenter for 1350

[light egret]

microcenter is where I got like all of my parts. They were at or under msrp and lower than every where else at the time.

[idle nexus]

well that's running dual rank bdie at, eh, I think 4400c16? maybe...? I forget but anyway, water cooling helps when it's running like 1.65v or something

my daily has watercooled memory

my daily before that has watercooled memory

[light egret]

what do you do on your pc that requires you to watercool your ram

[idle nexus]

my bench setup uses watercooled memory

[light egret]

like OC sure, but OC for what

[idle nexus]

I run 6400c28 for daily lol

[light egret]

iunno what that means

[idle nexus]

still not sure if that's a bug with HWiNFO or this board just does what it wants

[light egret]

is that saying your mem speeds are 3200?

[idle nexus]

technically yes

because DDR is dual data rate or something

[light egret]

on ddr5?

[idle nexus]

so when your XMP is, for example, 6000c28, technically it's running two 3000s

[light egret]

oh ok so each ram stick is running 6400?

[idle nexus]

each is running 6400 but mroe like each is running 3200+3200

[light egret]

and if mine is 3200 then each stick would be 1600x2?

[idle nexus]

yes

[light egret]

ok

[rancid juniper]

WTF THE HURRICANE IS CAT 4?!?!?!?

[light egret]

I was lost cause my ddr4 is 3200 and I was like how tf is your ddr5 OC at 3200 lmao

[light egret]

thats nothin. Just another day in texas

[rancid juniper]

[light egret]

im so glad I moved further inland tho lol

[idle nexus]

then to add another level of confusing, you can run higher frequency if the CPU's memory clock runs at half the speed of the memory frequency

[rancid juniper]

bro that hurricane spawned out of nowhere tbh

i didn't catch up with the weather forecast

[light egret]

That's pretty normal for the gulf

[idle nexus]

or you can synchronize the memory clock with the frequency which runs faster compared to 2:1

[light egret]

texas and florida get bombarded with hurricanes out of nowhere frequently

[rancid juniper]

Florida dodged so many tho

last i remember was hurricane Irma

[light egret]

see I know none of this stuff. I don't understand how any of that works

[idle nexus]

so, counterintuitively, running:
(a) 6400 at 1:1 is faster than
(b) 7400 at 2:1

[light egret]

ok so I'm running an r5 2600. It's speed is 3.4 GHz. How does that compare to my ram at 3200?

[rancid juniper]

3600mhz for me

CL16

very small tuning

[light egret]

ider what CL mine is

[idle nexus]

in (a) memory controller runs at 3200 & in (b) 1850mhz I think? I'm confused now too lmao

tCL is CAS latency

Column Address Strobe

lol

[light egret]

wait but you're not allowed to be confused. How am I supposed to learn? 😂

[idle nexus]

that's about the outer limits of what I know ngl.

I've seen it presented as almost like an excel sheet

[light egret]

ok mine is CL16

[idle nexus]

& inside the like rectangles are the places where the information is stored

[light egret]

you talking about the mem chips? like the black chips on the stick?

[idle nexus]

Column Address Strobe addresses like from the top & tRAS (Row Address Strobe) addresses from the sides

[light egret]

i dont think I know what you're saying anymore lol

I'm trying so hard to learn all this PC stuff but it gets so complicated.

[rancid juniper]

i wonder if i should tweak my tras down a bit

probably not worth it

[light egret]

how do you do that and what are the possible ramifications

[rancid juniper]

oh man where do i start

you tweak timings via bios or software (bios is highly recommended)

[idle nexus]

something like this?

[rancid juniper]

the issues is that it can present system instability if you're not careful

ram tweaking/oc takes alot of time

its best to do it one by one so you can figure out what the culprit is if you ever stumble upon instability

[idle nexus]

certain timings have to fit within other timings

[rancid juniper]

ggood will explain further

[light egret]

I mean I just don't see the point in OCing RAM outside of enabling XMP profiles. Ram instability can be catastrophic can't it?

and how much more power can you expect to get out of ram?

[idle nexus]

for example, tRC = tCL + tRAS + 2

[light egret]

is tCL the same as CL

[idle nexus]

yes

the lower case t stands for timing or tick I can't remember tbh lol

[light egret]

ok but CL is 16, + tRAS is 36, but my tRC is 73?

[idle nexus]

16+38+2

[light egret]

which is 54

wait where did you get 38

[idle nexus]

works here lol

[light egret]

this is mine lol

[idle nexus]

AMD & Intel controllers work a little different. Like AMD has tRDRDSC_L & tWRWRSC_L & those timings don't exist on Intel

[light egret]

@rancid juniper what cpu you got

I also don't know what those acronyms are lol

[idle nexus]

I mean, the timings exist but they're named differently

they seem complicated but if they're usually just acronyms of what they do

[light egret]

the problem I have is all my timings end in even numbers but the tRC is odd

[idle nexus]

like tRDRDSC_L is timing read-to-read delay same channel or something like that lol

just to be clear btw, I've spent a lot of time messing with these things, but I am nowhere near an expert or able to understand it

to me at least, people who understand this totally, their brains work different than most people lol

[rancid juniper]

Intel i5-13600k

[light egret]

Its all good

alright so that checks lol

I do have amd

[rancid juniper]

their minds are already gone after going deep into ram stuff

can't save em

[light egret]

ok so i'm assuming here it would be the CL+ RAS to CAS + tRAS to get the tRC?

but my tRC on the other page is still 73, one higher

[idle nexus]

when I've overclocked memory on AMD, usually tRP + tRAS works for tRC

I don't think that's necessarily a requirement but it's usually stable lol

some timings don't need to follow a formula necessarily

[light egret]

ok so is mine being at 73 just weird?

[idle nexus]

only that it's the minimum

[light egret]

cause that forumla would get me to 72 too, but my tRC is 73

idk if this might be it but I probably played around with OCing it a while back but I don't remember what all I played around with.

[idle nexus]

so if like tRP + tRAS < tRC, it'll be okay within reason

[light egret]

I know I OCd my CPU and GPU at one point

but like, just barely.

cause stock coolers and all

[idle nexus]

this is still the best DDR4 memory OC guide I've seen https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4 OC Guide.md

[light egret]

holy moly that sure is a lot of text.

[idle nexus]

since you're on AMD, there's an extra dimension to it

I believe it's because of the chiplet design

there's what's called the "infinity fabirc" that connects the chiplets together

[light egret]

wait lemme ask you a question

[idle nexus]

which is also called "FCLK"

[light egret]

if I have ddr4 3200 cl16 ram, but I only run 1 stick, is it only running at 1600? or is the double thing inside of each ram stick?

[idle nexus]

if you're on Zen 2, & running 1800mhz FCLK, you're already doing well cuz I think that's about the highest it usually runs

[idle nexus]

it's still running 1600+1600 but it's only running a single channel

[light egret]

ok that's what I thought. I was reading the link you sent and something stuck out to me to make me think i might have had it wrong lol

[idle nexus]

on like most consumer CPUs, memory only runs two channels

confusingly, even with 4 places to put RAM sticks ("DIMMs") on the motherboard

[light egret]

nah that's always made sense to me. Cause each channel is labled by the A and B

[idle nexus]

I think even AMD Threadripper is dual channel

incentive to buy EPYC lol

or maybe newer ones have more channels

I forget

[light egret]

how do I know if my mobo has a daisy chained mobo or T-topology mobo?

[idle nexus]

tbh I never quite understood how to find out

but are you using 4 DIMMs?

[light egret]

nahhh

[idle nexus]

cuz it doesn't really matter otherwise

[light egret]

im to broke for that

im not actually gonna try to OC my ram I'm just trying to learn lol

[idle nexus]

if you're using 2/4 DIMM slots, it won't be of concern lol

[light egret]

According to Buildzoid, Daisy Chain vs. T-Topology only matters above DDR4-4000. Following Buildzoid's logic, if you're on Ryzen 3000 or 5000, this doesn't matter as DDR4-3800 is the typical max memory frequency when running MCLK:FCLK 1:1.
ah.

Alright I'm off to put some sand under my pillow

[idle nexus]

if you decide you want to try to overclock memory, I highly recommend installing an extra windows partition

because memory overclocking can really bork Windows

[light egret]

Yeah I'm not gonna risk my windows install lol

[idle nexus]

lol ya it's better not to use your overclocked memory on your daily windows until it's passed lots of stability tests on a throwaway windows lol

if you did decide to OC memory, you have to figure out which ICs (the little square black things on the memory) are

because they behave differently

like you can blast Samsung bdie with voltage & it'll be fine unless it gets too hot (hence watercooling)

but you can damage Samsung cdie if you give it too much voltage & it even starts to scale negatively above 1.35v iirc

what does your CPU-Z say in the "SPD" tab next to "DRAM Manuf."?

[icy ore]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4nglq80w7eo.amp

This is wild, I’d been hearing about the stocks going crazy and stuff but I must’ve been under a rock because I completely missed that nvidia was the richest company in the world for a bit

[dusk knot]

I need to ask Jensen for some money since he's drowning in it

Maybe a billion dollars.

That's nothing to him now.

They're Almost a $4T company

[random osprey]

ask for 10 5080ti's

and 1 extra for me

[gentle canyon]

why not a 5090 or 90ti at that point

[elfin mural]

because

10 gpus is better

[gentle canyon]

but no crossfire or SLI

unless you want 10 to heat your home in the winter in 10 seperate pcs

[dusk knot]

I doubt my case could fit a 5090

[tranquil pebble]

6090 will be able to fit your case inside it

[elfin mural]

because

yes

10 gpus is 10 gpus

[mortal grail]

Just remembered my favourite dish I can have with leftovers tonight

[unreal trail]

bruh what is with the memory bloat on Brave? I have one tab open and in my processes Brave has 14 threads.

Closing Brave gave me back almost 2 Gb of RAM

[sinful blade]

Firefox>>>>>>>>>

[safe cape]

32gb ram >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[rancid juniper]

WTF

[light egret]

Micron Technology.

[light egret]

shouldve gotten a 10tb ssd

[rancid juniper]

My broke ass could never

Have you not seen the prices of 4TB ssds?

[light egret]

bout 200 buckaroos?

[dusk knot]

Hhmm

[rancid juniper]

More

Oh

[light egret]

the m.2 is like 300-400

[rancid juniper]

Crazy 😧

[light egret]

lol I got 1tb of ssd space and 4 tb of hdd space

[rancid juniper]

Let's see I got
1x1tb nvme (boot)
1x4tb nvme (games)
1x2tb nvme (more games)
1x1tb nvme (emulation)
1x4TB HDD (empty)

[light egret]

bruh

gimme

🏴‍☠️

[rancid juniper]

[opaque sedge]

Wth kind of mobo do u even have

[tranquil pebble]

I ordered a Keychron JIS kb and accidentally put my old address in the order so I had to contact them to change the shipping address. Customer support was pretty good. Already impressed with them and I don't even have the kb yet.

[rancid juniper]

MSI PRO Z690-A (DDR4)

[light egret]

[light egret]

probably using m.2 pcie adapters

[rancid juniper]

You sussy boi

[rancid juniper]

I'm not

[tranquil pebble]

my PC is slowly turning into a JRPG machine with all the JRPG ports that have happened in the past few years

[rancid juniper]

Go check up the motherboard's specs, it got a bunch of m.2 slots

[light egret]

holy crap yeah I just looked at it

gimme

i need to upgrade my pc so bad lol

[rancid juniper]

Probably the best motherboard I've ever purchased

[rancid juniper]

You should've done so around 2023

Those nvme prices were awesome

[opaque sedge]

4 m2 slots and are u using n adapter thru the pcie slot?

[rancid juniper]

No

All of them are filled

[light egret]

no his mobo straight up just has 4 m.2 slots on it

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[opaque sedge]

Oh wait i misread the hdd for ssd

[rancid juniper]

Lel

[opaque sedge]

Lel

Lol

lel

[light egret]

but its intel

[tranquil pebble]

with cards mine can take up to 27 NVMes and fully feed x4 lanes to all of them

[rancid juniper]

OP

[tranquil pebble]

3 on mobo and seven x16 PCIe slots but one is needed ofc for GPU

WRX80 goes hard

[light egret]

who tf needs 7 pcie x16 slots

[tranquil pebble]

nobody but I love my overkill

[light egret]

fill them all with gpus

[tranquil pebble]

128 PCIe lanes too

[rancid juniper]

I need to find purpose for my HDD

[tranquil pebble]

straight up puts any Xeon to shame

[rancid juniper]

Ever since I used nvme drives I could never go back

I might actually take out the drive

[light egret]

I use mine for backup storage and emulation machine since emulation doesn't really need SSD speeds at all

[rancid juniper]

Oh

Oh yea

[tranquil pebble]

using nvme for emulation seems like a waste of nvme

[rancid juniper]

💀

Actually that is a good idea

I'll do that

[light egret]

I mean if you got the space.

And you really don't need it

you save .00001 secs on load times

[rancid juniper]

this is gonna take a while

[light egret]

(thats a random number I pulled outa my ass)

do you just use emulators or do you got an emulation station build

[rancid juniper]

i just use emulators

[light egret]

bruh try out retrobat. Its cool af and puts retro console CRT boarders on the games lol

I like it a lot

[rancid juniper]

nah ill pass on that XD

[light egret]

I just like having an easy to browse catalog instead of looking at nothing but file names

[rancid juniper]

mmm

[light egret]

like so:

welp

[tranquil pebble]

ay SimCity 2000 I have that one

[light egret]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-chosen-one-you-were-the-chosen-one-gif-7521423

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/CyPVn3hBNo4?si=_Z9Zc9t56089kU4t

[tranquil pebble]

Task Manager kinda sucks ngl

[light egret]

then look at this ps2 boarder. So good

[sinful blade]

This ruined my day

There goes my pdf dreams

[dusk knot]

Lol?

Bruh..no

[tranquil pebble]

I'm reposting this to other servers lol

[dusk knot]

Good good

[sinful blade]

It was plant

[dusk knot]

Didn't feel appropriate

Plz think twice, romba

[sinful blade]

That’s hard
I can barely think once

It hurts the brain area

[dusk knot]

[unreal trail]

[sinful blade]

How is everyone’s Wednesday

[light egret]

im tired af

I got no sleep last night and my wife woke me up for a baby appointment

[pliant berry]

life

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/529049541148934155/1258123617204703415/The_everyday_life_of_a_Bethesda_Dev_HIGH.mov?ex=6686e66d&is=668594ed&hm=085d6e622d5431a2613ba92075eea0dcc9f5c92b49ce382d9ca4a625eb165368&

[sinful blade]

@elfin mural

Helping a Finnish friend

[elfin mural]

ehhhh

[sinful blade]

He asked

[elfin mural]

what's his criteria for a lappy?

[sinful blade]

Budget of £2k

[elfin mural]

depends on what kinda work

[sinful blade]

He doesn’t do hardcore 3d modeling

So he doesn’t need that

[elfin mural]

i'd prob find the vivobook s15

unless 2in1 is a req

[sinful blade]

Asking now

[sinful blade]

It’s not a requirement
But he said it would help sometimes

[elfin mural]

hrm ok

touch too i guess

[sinful blade]

Probably

@elfin mural lmk when you have somethin
I’m playin video game and I will see ping

[elfin mural]

alr

[mental yoke]

Good morning all

Hi Foxy!!

[elfin mural]

henlo

[mental yoke]

Hey..

Its not really a good day today

I had to put my cat of 15 years down..

[unreal trail]

💀

[mental yoke]

What

[mental yoke]

Im deeply hurt rn

Shes gone..

I never cried harder than I did today

[unreal trail]

https://www.cnet.com/tech/gaming/nintendo-has-no-plans-to-use-generative-ai-in-its-games-company-president-says/

based

[velvet summit]

I'm not against the usage of generative AI
Neither do I think it's the solution to everything

Though I also don't really think Nintendo games need it either

[worn wave]

Yeah like everything else it will have both good and bad implementations

[chrome portal]

Anyone ever do dishwasher steak?

Apparently a dishwasher gets hot enough to sous vide a steak before searing

[hoary zodiac]

makes sense

It probably needs to get that hot to kill all the germs

[velvet summit]

not to kill all the germs exactly; though it also does that

it makes the water quite hot so the enzymes and soap in the dishwasher detergent work more effectively

if you have a sanitize option, then it will use very hot water to kill all the germs

[hoary zodiac]

interesting

[velvet summit]

hotter water makes grease and other particles softer and easier to fall off

dishwashers dont quite rely on water pressure (only a little bit) to get rid of the food particles

the cleaning is done by the heat + detergents

also it reuses the same water (in a single cycle) for a while, so the detergent can do its magic

generally, the dishwasher cycle goes prewash; cleans off all the easily soluble food particles (tip: if you use powder detergent, add a little bit more in the washer before you start, so you get a little bit of soap to start the prewash
main cleaning cycle; detergent drawer opens, and the dishes are washed with the same water for maybe like 40 minutes
rinsing cycles; gets rid of all the detergents, there may be like 3 cycles
(optional) sanitizing cycle; uses very hot water to kill off all the germs, this cycle could be on the rinse cycles or the cleaning cycle
(optional) heat dry cycle; basically a hair dryer for your plates, though not really recommended since it just uses power with not too much benefit; you should just open the dishwasher door once the last rinse cycle finishes so that the water steams off fast, and that generally gets all your plates dry without the heat dry cycle

also for north americans, make sure to run the hot water on your sink till it gets hot before you run the dishwasher, because we only have 120v and heating water requires alot of power, so the dishwasher expects hot water to be fed in

and you should use the rinse aid

it's a surfactent to help water slide off your glassware so you dont get water spots on them after the rinsing cycles

also for home dishwashers, dont rinse your dishes before loading them into the dishwasher

use a butter knife or a fork or something to just scrape off the large chunks into the food waste bin, then just load the dishes into the dishwasher

[icy ore]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-cleaning-washing-broken-gif-26248926

[tranquil pebble]

I have acquired a handheld SNES player and it turns out all my Japanese Super Famicom games are functioning like new

also snes on the go is nice

[opaque sedge]

So typically top mounted fans are exhaust

But i was wondering if u can make them intake fans

[velvet summit]

yeah

[random osprey]

you can but typically you dont want to as you want to exhaust the hot air and also the top typically isnt designed to filter out dust as good

[velvet summit]

the top is a collection point for dust as well

so you might be sucking in more dust potentially

[opaque sedge]

Also i had a thought, can aio’s technically improve gpu temps? Since ur using an aio to cool the cpu, theres a lot of emty space in the case for the gpu heat to travel and escape right?

[velvet summit]

at least on my system, despite it being slightly exhaust (case is slightly more positively pressured) there's still a bit of a dust layer on top of my case

[random osprey]

not too much of a difference in temps. youre better off just getting colder air vs getting a aio for the gpu

[velvet summit]

your gpu generally sucks in air from the under side

[random osprey]

but there are aios for gpus

[velvet summit]

assuming you dont have it vertically mounted

[opaque sedge]

Oh so that’s why my case has a mesh cover on top

The entire thought about top mounted fans being potentially intakes came when i noticed the mesh cover lol

[velvet summit]

personally i just leave them as passive, since my front panel brings in enough air for it to be positively pressured

negative pressure tends to get dust into the cracks of the case

[opaque sedge]

Interesting

[velvet summit]

underside as in where the fans are

they suck in, blow right into the heatsink, and out the sides

[opaque sedge]

Also does the gpu suck in air from the back?

My inside of the pc has gotten strangely dusty

[velvet summit]

it shouldnt

if anything, it should be blowing out

[velvet summit]

how long has it been?

[opaque sedge]

Barely three weeks

[velvet summit]

oh yeah also through the back of the case which isnt filtered

negative pressure generally occurs if you have more exhaust cfm than the intake

[opaque sedge]

Can i make mine more positively pressured?

[velvet summit]

oh

you have a solid front panel

in that case, honestly a top intake isnt the worst idea, because at least that is filtered

you could always add more filter material (e.g. filter floss) if you want to get rid of even more dust, though it wont be as pretty

[opaque sedge]

The dust is honestly getting bad

[velvet summit]

damn

3 weeks in a closed pc

this is like open air test bench levels of dust

[opaque sedge]

Well… i may have ran some benchmarks with the glass panel off… but it wasn’t that dusty back then

It was

Half as dusty

[velvet summit]

what were your differences in score with and without the side panel on?

i wonder how choked for thermals are you with your solid front panel

also im just assuming it's solid front because you have the side intakes there

[light egret]

It looks like it has side vents to me. If that is on both sides I don't think it'd choke that much

[velvet summit]

should be better than the h510 at least lmfao

[light egret]

As long as there isn't also another filter under that front panel

[opaque sedge]

Temp differences at best, boost clocks were literally the same

[light egret]

How many front fans do you have

[opaque sedge]

Two

[velvet summit]

then you dont have to worry about it too much.... though i highly suspect that your rear fan might have a higher cfm exhaust than the intake fans

oh yeah definitely then

[opaque sedge]

Oh wait i remember i think the fan speed for my exhaust was set higher in bios when i first booted the pc

[light egret]

Personally I'd make sure to have 3 front fans as intake, then I do the rear fan and then my top plate has my aio with 2 out fans

[velvet summit]

i wonder how well or bad a setup with 0 exhaust and 3 intake on the front panel would do

[light egret]

I have about the same amount of dust but after like 4 years

I think it'd be fine

[velvet summit]

@opaque sedge try doing this and benchmarking to see if your scores go down

this should reduce your dust

though has the potential of lowering performance

[light egret]

The air is gonna find a way to escape regardless as long as you have the fans pulling air in and pushing that fresh air over your components, so I don't really see the need for the exhaust fans if the intake is adequate. The exhaust fans just help expell that air a bit faster

[opaque sedge]

Just a sec I think my exhaust fan speed was definitely set higher in bios

I’m looking at fan headers and trying to figure out which one was which

[velvet summit]

the header near the left top of the mobo is usually fan1

[light egret]

I think I have all my fans set to max at all times lol. Don't recommend that tho

[velvet summit]

honestly

probably better than setting the fan speed via cpu temp for gaming pcs

because your gpu is more likely to be hot than your cpu

but most mobos dont have gpu controlled fan speeds

you can do it with uhhhh

fancontrol or whatever the software was

lemme check

yeah fancontrol

[opaque sedge]

It seems my one exhaust is at the same curve as the intake but for the intakes i’m using a y cable

[light egret]

Yeah but if you got cheapo fans, leaving em at Max all the time will wear em out faster and they'll start making noises which will make you think you're hdds are going out

[opaque sedge]

Yh they’re def cheap came with the case for 65 bucks

[light egret]

That curve looks fine

[opaque sedge]

Should i increase it for the intake

[light egret]

I mean if you're really worried about dust getting in, get a set of 3 good fans for front, move the 2 front to top as exhaust. You'll still get dust but it will prob help

But also is your PC on the floor

[rancid juniper]

https://www.youtube.com/live/yIsoP1RiGnI?si=c2zF5sbLKyvq6N2k

[opaque sedge]

Nah desk

[opaque sedge]

Flight simulator

Nothing else to add…

[light egret]

Ok. I mean you're gonna get dust in your PC no matter what. The amount of dust in there is probably due to running PC with door off and having dust in the room. Just keep an eye on it and clean it every 6 months or so.

[opaque sedge]

What do i use to clean it? A cloth?

[sour falcon]

RAHHHHHHHHH

[sour falcon]

toothbrush

thats what i use, a really soft toothbrush

[opaque sedge]

Guys… should i trust him…

[light egret]

You can use can of compressed air or one of those electric blowers you can buy on Amazon, and then you can use a cloth with rubbing alcohol if you want it to be perfect. Don't use a cloth on the PC components unless it is a fine microfiber cloth, even then be careful cause it can snag on things. Toothbrush works well for the mobo and stuff

I use tooth brush all the time lol

[sour falcon]

it works really well for my gpu

[opaque sedge]

Ok phew

[light egret]

Don't like scrub hard or anything

Just lightly with rubbing alcohol

[sour falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/blink-stare-kevin-hart-shocked-gif-12770216

[opaque sedge]

Like have u guys ever heard of the story about the sheperd boy?

The one who liked to lie about wolf attacks

And one day when wolves finally did attack no one believed him

[sour falcon]

the boy who cried wolf...?

[opaque sedge]

And all the sheep were massacred

[sour falcon]

like yk, the name of the story?

[opaque sedge]

Idk i read it in a pic book in kindergarten

[sour falcon]

i read mrs.wishy washi

[opaque sedge]

Oh yeah it was this

Just looked it up

[sour falcon]

I KNOW IT IS

[light egret]

I personally don't worry about the small fine dust. I only worry about the caked dust especially in the CPU cooler

That will cause problems real quick if you let it build

[opaque sedge]

Oh cpu cooler reminds me what do u think of this fan curve?

[sour falcon]

thats about what mine it

[light egret]

Looks fine

[opaque sedge]

Nice

[light egret]

The default settings on a lot of these are going to be good for the most part. These things were designed by people much smarter than us

[sour falcon]

set it like this, works fine aside from the case fans since one has a weird habit

[light egret]

What's the weird habit

[sour falcon]

i believe its the middle fan itll start buzzing at high temp and speed

[light egret]

Eh it's prob fine lol. All of my fans are buzzing

[sour falcon]

its fine when the pc is cool but when it warms up it is LOUD

[light egret]

Just be deaf

[sour falcon]

buzzing is an understatement, its the only thing i coudl think of to describe the noise

ill get the pc hot and record it lol

[opaque sedge]

Are noctua fans expensive? Kind of scared to look ever since i saw that 100 buck air cooler on microcenter

[sour falcon]

YES

[light egret]

They are but they're also the best fans on the market

[sour falcon]

theyre like some of the most expensive unless youre looking at corsair

[opaque sedge]

Like 4090 best?

[sour falcon]

if you want quiet performance theyre the way to go

[sour falcon]

theyre fan scientists

[light egret]

Yeah pretty much

[opaque sedge]

Gpu coil whine would like to have a word

[opaque sedge]

Damn is there anything half as best,

[sour falcon]

i dont understand that

[light egret]

I mean there's a lot of good high quality fans out there

[opaque sedge]

Do they make gpu shrouds?

[sour falcon]

then again, my sff is NOT quiet

[sour falcon]

uhhhhh

[opaque sedge]

They dont?!?

[light egret]

IDK em by name outside of noctua tho

[opaque sedge]

Fan scientiests u say

[opaque sedge]

Ew

[sour falcon]

take that as you will

[light egret]

I just buy whatever cause the noise doesn't bother me

[sour falcon]

im assuming you meant noise

[opaque sedge]

I could buy a 3d printer and make one that looks 10x better

[sour falcon]

do it lol

[opaque sedge]

Probably

[opaque sedge]

Hmmm

[light egret]

Yes sorry I'm using swipe to text lol

[sour falcon]

lmfao all good

[opaque sedge]

Yk i had been eyeing that rx6800 ever since i first set out to build a pc

Then a 7800x3d bundle caught my eye

Then the gre

Then the 7900xt…

Anyways looks like its still 350 bucks

Wondering if i could make content out of it

The premise would be me miserably trying to complete the task i set out to do

As a complete beginner

Why misery as the theme

Because people love to watch ppl in misery

It could work but social media traffic is a mess

Damn I disregarded this 4 weeks back but the simple no nonsense design is diggable

The backplate is interesting

Is it to reduce sag?

[sour falcon]

no noise yet

@light egret

This is the said noise @opaque sedge

[opaque sedge]

Damn wth and i thought my coil whine was scary

Mine’s nonexistent compared to that

[sour falcon]

That’s the fans 😭

[opaque sedge]

Aint no way

[sour falcon]

That’s not coil whine lol

I even showed me turning down the speed you goof 😭

[opaque sedge]

Bro

My pc case

Is a cheapie 65 buck one

[sour falcon]

Mines like 130

[opaque sedge]

And at max fan speeds the only noise they produce is from the wind

[sour falcon]

They aren’t standard case fans lol

[opaque sedge]

And the fans came

With the damn case

[sour falcon]

I bought mine after the case

[opaque sedge]

Which ones did u get?

[sour falcon]

The fractal ridge comes with 2 140mm fans, my aio takes up that space

[sour falcon]

3* Arctic P8 MAX’s (5000rpm)

[sour falcon]

Oh yeah 80mm

[opaque sedge]

Damn urs is small

But ur case must be small too

[sour falcon]

the top fans yeah lol

[sour falcon]

12.6L

[opaque sedge]

I can’t find the volume for mine…

[sour falcon]

interesting

[opaque sedge]

Guys look at what just finished downloading

[sour falcon]

edge.....?

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-joker-2008joker-gif-27536830

[opaque sedge]

…

[sour falcon]

I'd have sore fingertips too if I had to constantly defend myself as an edge user

[opaque sedge]

My fault i should have tried to center the image better

[idle nexus]

oh that's better for OC than random Hynix ICs at least

[opaque sedge]

Hmm

Good enuf ig

[idle nexus]

what CPU?

[opaque sedge]

7800x3d

[idle nexus]

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/46351535

[opaque sedge]

Did you.. overclock a 4090?

[idle nexus]

I tried to

[opaque sedge]

Is overclocking messy?

Also wth is that cpu score

[idle nexus]

TimeSpy CPU score does better with more cores so it doesn't appreciate X3D like it should

[opaque sedge]

Wbt steel nomad?

[misty sparrow]

is there a way to do these 3dmark tests without buying the full version?

[idle nexus]

13900KS is 32 threads with 8p cores & 16 ecores (8x2 cuz HT + 16 ecores)

[idle nexus]

that test annoys me cuz I haven't scored great lol

[opaque sedge]

Whats a good score for it?

[idle nexus]

I think basic TimeSpy works & FireStrike

[opaque sedge]

Wdym? The free demo has two suitable benchmarks for gaming pcs

[idle nexus]

Steel Nomad might work too cuz it's new & was a free upgrade

[misty sparrow]

there's a demo?

don't see it on Steam

[opaque sedge]

3d mark and the demo should be uptop

[opaque sedge]

I haven’t done firestrike yet

[misty sparrow]

okay i found it

probably going to get a low score

[dusk knot]

Hm

[opaque sedge]

Apparently 20000 up is upper mid range build territory

[misty sparrow]

oh nvm im on linux

[idle nexus]

downlaod demo https://benchmarks.ul.com/3dmark?redirected=true#windows

it has Steel Nomad, SM Lite, TimeSpy, Night Raid, & Firestrike

[misty sparrow]

will it even be accurate if i'm on Linux?

considering it isn't native

[idle nexus]

https://www.3dmark.com/sn/158201

[idle nexus]

I'm not sure it'll run & if you use Wine or something, it'll likely affect the score

[misty sparrow]

yep that's my point

don't think i should really do it then

waste of time

[idle nexus]

on hwbot, you can reduce level of detail (LOD) to score higher for FireStrike, FS Extreme, & FS Ultra. I can't remember the last time I ran it the way it comes

[idle nexus]

you could really waste time & install an extra Win10 or Win11 partition to do it lol

[idle nexus]

iirc GeekBench runs on Linux but I could be wrong

[opaque sedge]

I got this

[idle nexus]

GB 2, 3, 4, & 5 all work on Linux https://www.geekbench.com/legacy/

[misty sparrow]

apparently, 6 does too

is 6 not a good one or?

[idle nexus]

I dunno if there's a free version but I think it's a good one ya

[idle nexus]

heck I just realized I never ran FireStrike on 4090

strange

that beats my 3080ti score of 44691. SLI 1080ti scored 52242 but keep in mind both of those scores are with LOD reduced & what not

my best scores for reference

lol I forgot I ran SLI GTX 760s

[opaque sedge]

I think the 7900xt is better than the 3090 or smth

[opaque sedge]

Are those 2 1080tis?

[idle nexus]

just one

I wish I had another 2080ti to run nvlink SLI or whatever it was called

[sour falcon]

@opaque sedge

It gets SO MUCH worse

[idle nexus]

two 1080tis ya

[sour falcon]

That’s a single fan 🧍‍♂️

[opaque sedge]

Ur pc bout to explode

[sour falcon]

Nah

[idle nexus]

uh what's going on there

[sour falcon]

Built in cheese grater

[sour falcon]

A fan

[opaque sedge]

His fans are rumbly

[idle nexus]

where is it mounted?

case or GPU fan?

[sour falcon]

Top of the pc

[idle nexus]

get some washers & use them to build them out a bit

[sour falcon]

Case fan I’ve already checked for obstructions

[opaque sedge]

This reminds me i need to get a controller to play elden ring

[sour falcon]

There’s nothing in the fans 😭

[idle nexus]

at high RPM they can clip sometimes

I had it happen with slim fans a couple times

[opaque sedge]

I messed up my pinky trying to dodge roll on kbm, its got a small bump around the top joint

[sour falcon]

That’s what I’m assuming is happening since it goes away when I lower the rpm

[idle nexus]

wait but... if they're on the top of the PC, usually you'd want them as exhaust fans so the frame would face the metal

[sour falcon]

And it only does it when it’s hot

[sour falcon]

I’m insane, they’re intake

[idle nexus]

I put top fans as intake before just cuz it looked better lol

[sour falcon]

Same, mines worse since I’m skinny

[sour falcon]

They help my pc that I set up to fight itself

[opaque sedge]

It was that damn tree sentinel 😭

[idle nexus]

use washers to lower them slightly

I mean they're clipping by like 1/128" probably lol

[sour falcon]

My bony ass filanges

[opaque sedge]

Omg

[sour falcon]

Yeah it’s pretty bad

[idle nexus]

which case?

[opaque sedge]

Ur blood vessels collapsed lol

[sour falcon]

Fractal ridge

[sour falcon]

Nah my finger is fine

[opaque sedge]

Elden ring as well?

[idle nexus]

whoa this case is tiny as heck

[sour falcon]

Never played it 🗣️

[sour falcon]

Just a little heh

[idle nexus]

uh what the heck could it even be clipping?

[sour falcon]

Pretty sure the blade is hitting the sides at high speeds

[idle nexus]

maybe the cross bars

[sour falcon]

Nope

[idle nexus]

not that?

[sour falcon]

The cross area are out of the way

[idle nexus]

oh ya that's raised

[sour falcon]

Here gimme a sec I’ll get a photo

[idle nexus]

so probably

[sour falcon]

Wouldn’t surprise me

[idle nexus]

but either way, you can't even see into the top of that case without like a flashlight so use like 1-3 washers per screw to lower the fans away from metal

ig you had to use those self-tapping screws since there's nowhere a machine screw could screw into the metal

you might even get away with unscrewing the screws like a quarter or half turn

but you don't want vibration either

[sour falcon]

oh its the end fan

slowwed it down and it went away

[idle nexus]

could install those on top of the fan to lower it slightly & not worry about vibration if you don't wanna use washers

[sour falcon]

its what i thought it was

[opaque sedge]

That is one thin case

[idle nexus]

is it all three or just one of them?

[sour falcon]

squeezed the sides and it went way

[sour falcon]

the very far end fan

[idle nexus]

my guess is the case assumes you'll use the top as exhaust

[sour falcon]

YEAHHHHH

[sour falcon]

nah

[idle nexus]

loosen the screws like a quarter turn just for the heck of it lol

can you tell where it's hitting?

[sour falcon]

i probably tightened the fan weird

[idle nexus]

maybe it is that cross brace thing

it goes right up to the housing?

[sour falcon]

nah, its the casing

no theres like 1mm of a gap above it

[opaque sedge]

Is it hitting those bridges?

[sour falcon]

no

its the casing

[idle nexus]

you'd have to check the one opposite of that back one that's not visible in the photo

[opaque sedge]

The thing good posted?

[sour falcon]

mhm

[opaque sedge]

Is it malleable?

[idle nexus]

if it is the cross brace, you could take some channellocks or something & just bend it out even

[sour falcon]

Ignore the dust

There’s plenty of space above it

[idle nexus]

oh heck the other one looked closer

is there a rear fan?

[sour falcon]

lemme get a flashlight

[idle nexus]

wow that case is tiiight

so the GPU & those two big fans sit right by the perforations to pull air into the case

you might be better off with the fans flipped anyway

cuz rn it seems like you have like a really positive pressure situation

[idle nexus]

like your PSU is your only exhaust or something

[sour falcon]

That fan is the one being noise

4 exhaust and 4 intake

[idle nexus]

& if the fans try to push air into the case but the air in the case isn't being exhausted, it'll resist the air coming in

oh heck where are the exhaust?

[sour falcon]

PSU and the 3 fans are intake and the aio and gpu are exhaust

[idle nexus]

GPU should pull air onto itself then blow it out the back by the PCIe ports. I think newer GPUs do flow through

PSU is going to pull air into the PSU housing then blow it out the back where the cable connects

[sour falcon]

huhhhhhhhh

[idle nexus]

iirc you want slighly positive pressure because it builds up dust less

[sour falcon]

the airflow in this is weird

ill just keep doing what i normally do lol

[misty sparrow]

alright i finished a geekbench benchmark, looks average though

1392 single-core, 5149 multi-core

[idle nexus]

excuse my crude drawing

[sour falcon]

ah

[sour falcon]

pretty sure mine exhausts on the bottom

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/cocky-conor-mc-gregor-swag-walk-gif-14354634

[idle nexus]

lol still sucks but the idea gets across

[sour falcon]

oh then im fine

the psu takes care of itself

[idle nexus]

if those big 140s are pulling air into the case

[high star]

opened eggcord to a toaster oven graphic

[sour falcon]

i have the 850W sfx psu from phanteks

[sour falcon]

no

[idle nexus]

& the GPU is pulling air into the case

[sour falcon]

wrong wrong wrong

exhaust

aio and gpu are exhaust

[idle nexus]

those 140s are exhaust? lol

[sour falcon]

no

theyre 2 120's

the case came with 140's that i didnt use

[idle nexus]

oh they looked like 140s in the pictures on fractal website lol

ah okay

[sour falcon]

the aio and the 2 120's are exhaust

[sour falcon]

silverstone vida 240 slim

[idle nexus]

lol oh ya I forgot you put an AIO my bad

[sour falcon]

yur, all good

[idle nexus]

blue thing is PSU lol that goes there right?

& this is how GPU would work (kinda?)

[idle nexus]

I should've put a watermark cuz if Fractal sees these drawings they'll probably add them to the website lmao

do intakes fit here?

[storm narwhal]

Could sue em for copyright that way

[idle nexus]

I wonder why they say only 2 120s or 140s fit on top... who the heck uses 80mm fans?