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[mortal grail]

I've never seen gex

[elfin mural]

GEX

Gecko

[mortal grail]

GEX

https://tenor.com/view/gex-money-winking-gex-enter-the-gecko-ps1-gif-24648318

[trim vigil]

guys what better 12700kf or r7 7700

[elfin mural]

Or swap X got Y

[sweet phoenix]

Gex is good b tier iirc

[elfin mural]

GEY

[sweet phoenix]

Atx 3.0

[sweet phoenix]

7700

[elfin mural]

7700 by far

in every way

[mortal grail]

89 tho?

Agl and focus beat that at 750 lol

[sweet phoenix]

I think its atx 3.0

Eh, either way

[mortal grail]

@opaque sedge i think about 85 less is as close as good gets unless there's another bundle with the same ram and an matx motherboard

Specifically an matx motherboard

[sweet phoenix]

And can do cheaper cooler, bc am5 is very easy to cool

[opaque sedge]

Are these two any different?

[mortal grail]

Sn580 is better

Like much better

[sweet phoenix]

Oh grab this
https://www.amazon.com/upHere-Cooler-Copper-1800RPM-77-93CFM/dp/B0CF5HX46Q

[opaque sedge]

That’s the only ryzen bundle with 32 gigs of memory

[trim vigil]

@elfin mural https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/qZYmMV what u think??

[mortal grail]

Sure? Micro center normally has a few

Maybe just that store

Which would be a shame

But stretching $15 I'd see the worth in that

7900 GRE for 520 is...probably the best value new card on the market rn

[elfin mural]

^

[mortal grail]

Bar an 6650xt or 7600

But you want mid range so, middle class can't really be beat

Oh, do they have a 7600 bundle? Maybe 7800x3d?

[opaque sedge]

There’s a i9 12900k, ryzen 7 7800x3d

The intel is 400

[mortal grail]

Ye what's the 7800x3d one look like

[opaque sedge]

And the ryzen is 480

[mortal grail]

Mmmm

How about the intel one

[trim vigil]

can someone rate this pc and tell me the pros and cons

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/qZYmMV

[opaque sedge]

It it better than the 7700x?

[mortal grail]

I would say so but depends on the circumstances

What's the intel one look like

[opaque sedge]

Lemme get links to these

[mortal grail]

Prime

Bleh

I mean if you want lots of multithread performance extra

It's ok

But AM5 will last until 2027 now

So kinda bleh

[elfin mural]

5 whopping years

[opaque sedge]

Is the 5800x3d am5?

[elfin mural]

that's 5 generations

no

that's am4

[mortal grail]

Nah

[opaque sedge]

Ah nvm

That bundle is 16gigs of memory

For 40 bucks less

[mortal grail]

I think about 85 or so less is as good as you could go without really sacrificing

We could do 100 less outright but then we do hedge some perf loss

[opaque sedge]

I think I’ll go with this in the end

Its 150 extra compared to the very first build I came up with today

And the gre seems to have significantly more performance over the 6800

[mortal grail]

It's like, 9% off 7900xt

But it's also 200 less than a 7900xt

And about 10% over 6800xt

Give or take

6800 non xt I can't remember off the top of my head

One sec

[opaque sedge]

This is what I had initially

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/csq9DZ

[mortal grail]

20%

So for about

15% more cash?

We gained about 30% performance give or take

[opaque sedge]

Isn’t that kind of awesome?

[mortal grail]

Yes

Your original list is good btw

[opaque sedge]

Its almost a pure performance per dollar build

[mortal grail]

Though RMe is a bit dated now

Yes

[opaque sedge]

That sounds really cool lol

[mortal grail]

As I said GRE is one of the best value cards rn

Lol

[opaque sedge]

Is 560 usd fair for a powercolor fighter?

[mortal grail]

It was 520 in the list

Powercolour cards are fine, they're in fact very good

So good that they're very quiet

And because they're very quiet, people can hear the coil whine very easily

So their number 1 complaint of coil whine is because they made the cards so good you can hear it instead of the fans... lmao

[opaque sedge]

There’s also a hellhound

[mortal grail]

Hellhound is more or less the same just with rgb

[opaque sedge]

Damn

[mortal grail]

But I'd do a 520 GRE any day over anything else

[opaque sedge]

Yeah I’m ordering it

[mortal grail]

Last thing

I realise it's a micro center bundle

But if you can afford to wait a month for 9700X benchmarks

Might be worth doing

9600X too

Reason being is it may end up more affordable for slightly better performance

[opaque sedge]

Will they come out in bundles as well?

[mortal grail]

Eventually yes but I'm not saying that as a bundle

Mmmm

[opaque sedge]

Has pricing been revealed yet?

[mortal grail]

You know what ignore me

It'd have to be in a bundle

For it to be better

Lol

Board and ram is about 210

So 9600x has to be 170 to be better

Which won't happen

[opaque sedge]

Unless I wait a year

[mortal grail]

Yeah that 7700x bundle won't be beaten for a while

Haha

[opaque sedge]

I’ll place an order for the gre for now

[mortal grail]

Alr

Good pc tho should last a good few years

[opaque sedge]

Done

Picking up the cpu bundle the first thing tomorrow

I was about to drive down to micro center yesterday evening but I got to engrossed trying to make builds in pcpp

Hope the bundle is still there

[mortal grail]

All good it not

I believe I can get close with a 7600 combo

Be like a620m gaming x, 7600, single tower, 5600 cl46 hynix 32gb (runs 6400 cl32), sama case less fans

[opaque sedge]

Nice and same am5 socket for the mobo right?

[mortal grail]

It would be more or less the same list just 2 less cores

Yeah

So don't freak out

[opaque sedge]

Got it!

[mortal grail]

Just 2 cores less lol

Micro center bundles are usually good

Especially with good ram like this one

[opaque sedge]

Thanks a lot I will message you tomorrow after I come back from microcenter

[mortal grail]

Np

[opaque sedge]

Been a long night

Long night? Morning?

[mortal grail]

53

[opaque sedge]

@mortal grail do u have any other alternative cases couldn’t find the phanteks on amazon

[mortal grail]

At 50? No

[opaque sedge]

Dms be a little crazy sometimes

[mortal grail]

Ah hold on I might actually

[opaque sedge]

Got it

[mortal grail]

Try this

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rBTZxr/montech-air-903-base-atx-mid-tower-case-air-903-base-w

See if it's black

[opaque sedge]

Its like 15 bucks more expensive

[mortal grail]

You won't need the extra fans

Yes

[opaque sedge]

i’ll suck it up

[mortal grail]

No extra fans

So $3

[opaque sedge]

Oh need to buy the extra fans

[mortal grail]

?

Lol you're tired

[opaque sedge]

Kinda

[mortal grail]

So it's just $3 more

[opaque sedge]

Nice

Less screwing around with the case ig

Ah wbt the screws and screwdriver?

And cables?

[mortal grail]

Screwdriver is probably the only thing you need

[opaque sedge]

Any particular size?

[mortal grail]

Standard phillips head

[opaque sedge]

I think I have a smaller sized philips at home

[opaque sedge]

Nice

Works out perfectly

Ordering the cases psu ssd and cooler as well

Should arrive with the gpu tomorrow

[mortal grail]

Sounds good lad

[opaque sedge]

Now comes peripherals

[mortal grail]

Like monitor keyboard?

[opaque sedge]

Mhm

Completely forgot about those

Is it possible you get them all under 300?

[mortal grail]

Mmm I can try

I can def do 350

[opaque sedge]

Sounds great!

This is turning to be much better than a laptop ngl

And less costly too

[mortal grail]

It's barely over 300

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3mpMWt

Sorry I started a separate list

Those 3 will all be decent, just remember to uninstall logitech ghub once you've set up the mouse

Otherwise a razer deathadder essential in white would be my alternative suggestion

[trim vigil]

can someone rate my pc build and tell me if there are any pros and cons

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/qZYmMV

[sweet phoenix]

This is a bit cheaper and just as good, but if you'd rather atx either is a good choice
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/Ng2WGX/asrock-b650m-pg-riptide-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pg-riptide-wifi

This is a good bit better ssd
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/8BRYcf/team-t-force-cardea-z44l-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpl001t0c127

[atomic mist]

hear me out

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KTbxBL

[sweet phoenix]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/4yJgXL/thermaltake-s200-tg-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-1x2-00m1wn-00

[mortal grail]

I got no bearing on sceptre but I know the ck720 is better

[atomic mist]

its true

probably

[mortal grail]

M3 is good

[sweet phoenix]

Lastly could do a bit cheaper on psu, but again it's not bad to spend the extra
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZCQcCJ/nzxt-c750-2022-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-pa-7g1bb-us
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/zfGhP6/adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-corereactorii750g-bkcus

[trim vigil]

would i need extra fans

@sweet phoenix

@sweet phoenix

ive made changes but ive decided to stay with the original case as it is bigger and can fit a gpu thats 410mm in length

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/2HfCRK

[tranquil pebble]

oh hell nah they made Java into an anime logo: https://x.com/sawaratsuki1004/status/1797487989427511335

さわらつき (@sawaratsuki1004) on X

Twitter · Jun 3, 2024, 4:38 AM

[fair onyx]

OMG, the revert back to old discord mobile where the servers and DM's are on the same page is... So nice lmao

Did realize how much better the old one was lmao

[elfin mural]

It's a half revert

Like very half assed

[tranquil pebble]

half-assed is Discord in a nutshell

[elfin mural]

I got used to the "inferior" one

That I actually miss some of the features it introduced

And now they fixed it, but half assedly so

By entirely stripping any and all useful features

Watch as they change it again in the next..

6 months

[fair onyx]

@elfin mural what's half assed about it? I think it feels better in like... Every way

Tho I will say that I built up the muscle memory of switching between the DM and Server tab. But man it used to be kinda slow/laggy sometimes when the app wasn't running right

[elfin mural]

Honestly

I got used to the dm icon being down below

That reaching up, like desktop client is cumbersome

I want that but with this current dm layout

I use gestures so navigation is naturally better done down below

[fair onyx]

I did too and I do feel myself trying to use it, but man not having to use it is sooooo much faster than waiting for the app to janky load everything. I have a stupid fast phone, and it just fel primitively slow

[fair onyx]

Ahhhh, I get what you mean

[elfin mural]

I just want a mix of both ngl

Having to scroll up, then click on dm icon at top left is some movement

[fair onyx]

Altho I will say, all of my most used servers are at the very top, which makes it a bit less annoying for me. Whatever it is, this new discord app version feels so much smoother than it did before for me

[elfin mural]

And is actually slower

[opaque sedge]

Btw for the gpus do they not end up bending or getting damaged just hanging horizontally in pcs?

[fair onyx]

Never thought of that

[elfin mural]

Not unless they're heavy enough

That's why we have anti sag brackets

And tricks to prevent sagging

[opaque sedge]

Is the gre power color fighter heavy?

Lemme get dimensions real quick

[elfin mural]

3 slots+ is where I start to consider some propping up

But it depends on the weight

[opaque sedge]

Its 3.17lbs

[fair onyx]

I should really use a sag bracket for my GPU

My second one isn't that heavy

[elfin mural]

That doesn't sound right

1.4kg gre?

But anyway, I'd probably consider something to prevent sag

Given the gpu's size and thickness

[craggy shoal]

Just 3D print a solution

Easiest thing to resolve 💀

[elfin mural]

Solution that costs $300

Anyway you can even use anything really

Stuff 3d printing doesn't require

[mortal grail]

lego

Just lego

[elfin mural]

^

[fair onyx]

That's what I will likely do, but I worry about it softening

[mortal grail]

Overthinking it

Lego

[fair onyx]

I have a printer

[craggy shoal]

To resolve GPU sag? That would cost not even a dollar for me lol

[fair onyx]

I don't have legos

[elfin mural]

3d printing is overthinking it

Well you'd need to buy a printer first if you don't have one

[mortal grail]

eraser

[craggy shoal]

just don't be stupid and use PETG or ABS instead of PLA

[elfin mural]

Buying a 3d printer just to print one thing is kinda like

[mortal grail]

Amazon loves selling 5 and 7 dollar magnetised gpu support pylons

[elfin mural]

Taking a sledgehammer to a nail

[craggy shoal]

He has a 3D printer

[elfin mural]

Then that's a cheap solution, yeah

https://videocardz.com/newz/super-green-pny-geforce-rtx-4070-super-blower-gets-jensens-approval

[mortal grail]

BEYOND FAST

SUPER GREEN

SUPER JENSEN

SUPER 4070

[elfin mural]

PNY

SUPER PNY

[mortal grail]

PUNY GREEN

[elfin mural]

JENSEN WAS HERE

[craggy shoal]

And Father Jensen has blessed us with the GREEN

[mortal grail]

GREEN JACKET

WHERE IS IT

[elfin mural]

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-reveals-geforce-rtx-4080-super-expert-fuzion-with-built-in-aio-cooler

[mortal grail]

WHERE IS SHE

[elfin mural]

Felix

[storm narwhal]

GREEEN

[elfin mural]

What do you think of that

4080S with AIO built in

[mortal grail]

We saw this already

[elfin mural]

o

[mortal grail]

Remember goofy ah suprim cybertruck

[storm narwhal]

Remember goofy aah cybertruck

[elfin mural]

https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-zone-with-ryzen-7-8840u-and-native-portrait-amoled-screen-to-launch-in-september-at-800eur-usd

[mortal grail]

Do u remember Foxy

[elfin mural]

This looks oddly similar to ally

[mortal grail]

Goofy ah 4090 suprim aio

Cybertruck build pc

[elfin mural]

Right

[mortal grail]

Same thing

[elfin mural]

The goofy 4090

[mortal grail]

YOOOOOOOOOO

IT'S A

STEAM DECK

[elfin mural]

From zotac

$800 tho

[mortal grail]

omg that dpad tho

what in the world

Looks like it came out of a happy meal box

[elfin mural]

ally x is probably better

cheaper too

[storm narwhal]

We'll see how good this ZOTAC handheld is

[mortal grail]

yeah but 8840hs

[storm narwhal]

But I don't have high hopes, to say the least

[elfin mural]

and 800 nits

oled

instead of 500 nits on ally x

[craggy shoal]

Not me always thinking this is an 8th gen Intel CPU because of the "HS"

Every time I see it mentioned I swear

[mortal grail]

You'd never use it at 800 nits

[elfin mural]

It's just a zen 4

[mortal grail]

burn in over 300

[elfin mural]

Ik, but having that high brightness means

You can run it half

[mortal grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/835557783621337139/1247536731885015131/FB_IMG_1717506321824.jpg?ex=6660629e&is=665f111e&hm=a8987921afacdb7b4c92c40d3bb320d3dcc36d63b1eaf95139b1511d5ce91b2c&

[elfin mural]

Everyone is doing camm now

[mortal grail]

Oh wait we have car channel now

[storm narwhal]

Just clean the truck every time water touches any water

[elfin mural]

Even geil

[mortal grail]

Genuinely wondering if AMD will bite

[elfin mural]

CAMM is the future of computing

[storm narwhal]

As per Tesla's recommendations in the manual

[craggy shoal]

Shouldn't be needed 💀

[elfin mural]

AMD should tbh

It's only gonna benefit us all

[mortal grail]

Oh no my pool!
*cleans truck *

[elfin mural]

Bruh

MSI just launched another claw

CLAW 8 AI

[mortal grail]

Maybe he'll notice lol

[elfin mural]

AI POWERED HANDHELD

[storm narwhal]

Now they've got two claws

[elfin mural]

Yep

[craggy shoal]

buy truck
get stain
clean truck
rust
clean truck
rust
clean truck
rust
suffer

[elfin mural]

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-confirms-claw-8-ai-plus-with-intel-lunar-lake-and-80wh-battery-just-3-months-after-introducing-first-gen-handheld

[storm narwhal]

This

[elfin mural]

Also

The chance of getting critical power steering failure

[craggy shoal]

Bro why they have to put AI in a gaming device 💀

[elfin mural]

And the wiper motor dying

[storm narwhal]

Surface can rust but doesn't include any paint or protective surface on the car

[mortal grail]

Points at the hundreds of car yards filled with current and soon to be old teslas

[elfin mural]

coz the cpu has npu inside

[storm narwhal]

"iT hAs reDunDanCiEs"

[craggy shoal]

Ah gotcha

[mortal grail]

Or seatbelt warning malfunctioning

[storm narwhal]

Like how many redundancy, one?

[elfin mural]

btw the wiper motor failed cuz tesla..

Cheaped out

The design was supposed to use a stronger motor

[storm narwhal]

Lmao how do you fail at making a wiper motor

[elfin mural]

To handle the sheer girth of the gigawiper

[craggy shoal]

I wish Nvidia made lower-end NPUs as a separate PCIe device instead of jacking each GPU with tensor cores and making them more expensive

[storm narwhal]

Aerodynamicks

[elfin mural]

It's one massive wiper

[mortal grail]

Bruh he made a car shaped like a knife how do you expect anything to go well

[craggy shoal]

Because bruthur I have PCIe lanes

[elfin mural]

The motor can even die without you using the wipers

[storm narwhal]

Fr

[elfin mural]

Because the wind blowing past the truck damages it as well

While you're driving it

[storm narwhal]

Damn wtf

[craggy shoal]

Worse than a used Mercedes after a year of ownership

[mortal grail]

Built with eggshelll

[storm narwhal]

Who designed this truck, Elon musk?

[elfin mural]

Of course

It's elon

[craggy shoal]

weggshell

[elfin mural]

The engineers actually proposed a stronger motor

But elon said no

[storm narwhal]

Cheap

Take out the radar from the model 3 too

They won't need it

[mortal grail]

How come you guys can notice this but I post a devilled egg joke and no one got it

[elfin mural]

The cheap model 3 will just be

Useless

At that point, get other ev's

[craggy shoal]

I probably wasn't here at the time

[storm narwhal]

"Visual navigation is perfectly fine"

[mortal grail]

I need you to be an admin

No time to explain

[storm narwhal]

Meanwhile Tesla model 3 nearly slams into a train

Because fog

[craggy shoal]

I’m too irresponsible to be an admin 💀💀💀

[elfin mural]

Also the current cheapest model 3 is simply software locked from having advanced features

It has the hardware

[storm narwhal]

Of course it is

[elfin mural]

But locked behind a paywall

[storm narwhal]

You will own nothing and be happy

-Tesla, among many other companies

[elfin mural]

Either order the option or suffer

[storm narwhal]

Imagine that for a Mac lmao

They give you 64gb but software lock you to 8gb

[elfin mural]

yep

[storm narwhal]

And make you pay to access the rest

[mortal grail]

If I can't get egg jokes working in here we're as good as dead

[storm narwhal]

How angry would people be?

[elfin mural]

They'd most likely cope

[storm narwhal]

Why aren't they angry at Tesla?

[elfin mural]

tbh

[storm narwhal]

True

[elfin mural]

It's apple

Tesla cars certainly aren't any good to begin with

But the cybertruck

It's such a joke

More of a joke than any other cars they've released

"Hurr durr trucks r boring and 2 practical"

F150 sized, but none of the utility

Ironic thing is that you can order an f150 lightning for much less money

It's still pretty expensive, but certainly more practical and better built

[unreal trail]

[mortal grail]

LMAO

[opaque sedge]

@mortal grail u busy rn?

[mortal grail]

Kinda

I'm in and out

[opaque sedge]

I’m at mc and thought I would check out some pc cases and not sure if I should grab one here

Cuz the one you recommended me isn’t coming till the weekend

[mortal grail]

Which one did I suggest

I do too many lists a day

I can't remember who I'm talking to sometimes 💀

[opaque sedge]

Montevh 903 base

[mortal grail]

Oh is this that 7700x build

[opaque sedge]

There’s a 903 max

[mortal grail]

How much

[opaque sedge]

Here for 70

[mortal grail]

That's fine if you don't mind it

[opaque sedge]

Its got rgb

[mortal grail]

Yes that's the max part

Easy guide for you mate

Intake mesh front or bottom for fans

ATX size

3 fans is a good sign

Aim for under 80

If you find one drop it here I'll say if good or not

Don't be afraid to see if the rep might give you a good deal for the case with the bundle you're interested in

If you haven't already bought the bundle

Don't be afraid to bring up a case brand you mightn't know about

[opaque sedge]

@mortal grail what do u think of this cooler?

[mortal grail]

meh

[opaque sedge]

This is the one i ordered from amazon

https://a.co/d/3eMNiXU

[mortal grail]

Far better

[opaque sedge]

Gotcha

[mortal grail]

Hyper 212 will die when the planet is engulfed either in eco pollution or the expansion of the sun

[opaque sedge]

And this power supply is good right?

https://a.co/d/cI9zKj6

[mortal grail]

Yes

Pretty hard to beat core reactor rn

Have to show me similar for like same price or less

[opaque sedge]

Wbt surge protectors?

Should I get one?

[mortal grail]

Good to have one yes

Go for a name brand and a decent price

A local hardware brand is fine too as long as it has a good set of features

[opaque sedge]

Any ideas?

[mortal grail]

Nope

I'm not american

My stores have completely different brands

[opaque sedge]

And for the case the 903 max after price matching is 75 not sure if I should pay 10 bucks extra to have a case sooner

[mortal grail]

It's worth 70

I'd look at like Sky two if you wanted a good $80 case

[devout forum]

https://tenor.com/view/movies-titanic-quotes-its-been-years-84years-gif-14851580

@mortal grail It's happened...

But for 150 dollars...

[mortal grail]

???????????

[devout forum]

Next-gen NH-D15

[craggy shoal]

$150 for a tower single-chamber Montech case is crazy

[devout forum]

wut

[mortal grail]

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

[opaque sedge]

@mortal grail what do u think of this monitor?

[mortal grail]

WAIT

WHAT

[devout forum]

Yep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDDxYlkp-_A

This is not a drill

[craggy shoal]

lol what's the big deal?

[devout forum]

It's Noctua, they never release new products lmao

[mortal grail]

Pass

[devout forum]

it'll probably be better than the old one, but for 150 bucks nah

[craggy shoal]

it's good

[devout forum]

I mean even if it's THE best air cooler, 150 bucks???

[opaque sedge]

What would be ur pick?

[craggy shoal]

why though? :0

just better options for the price?

[devout forum]

I can get a NICE 360mm AIO for 150 bucks

[mortal grail]

Pretty sure it's VA

[craggy shoal]

it's IPS

just checked lol

180Hz 1440p 27"

[opaque sedge]

Yup the clerk said its ips too

[craggy shoal]

unless google is messing with me

nah it's IPS

[mortal grail]

Hm google showed me it was one of the 30 VA 1080p and 1440p ones

[devout forum]

A series has VA and IPS panels

[mortal grail]

Well ig I'm wrong but it'd have to be good

[devout forum]

you need the SPECIFIC number

[mortal grail]

There's so many of them

[devout forum]

like specific DOWN TO THE LETTER

[craggy shoal]

I Googled: asus tuf "vg3a"

lol

[devout forum]

Ye don't

VG3 series has like 20 SKUs

it's utterly ridiculous

[craggy shoal]

You're right lol

[opaque sedge]

Clerk says 250 for it

[devout forum]

AQL3A is IPS iirc

[craggy shoal]

how could I forget the other five to six characters that still tell me nothing unless I google the full part number lolll

[mortal grail]

terrible

Again, pass

[devout forum]

That one is the 180hz IPS

[mortal grail]

Does not beat an Omen 27q for 220

[devout forum]

Yeah it's middle of the pack perf for a lot then

[mortal grail]

Nor an MSI QLED for 260

[opaque sedge]

This one?

[devout forum]

MSI QLED is goated can confirm, one of my buddies got it and it looks amazing

[craggy shoal]

https://www.asus.com/us/displays-desktops/monitors/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-vg27aql3a/

[mortal grail]

Better

Rtings really doesn't like this monitor

....

[devout forum]

oof

[craggy shoal]

lol where are y'all finding QLED monitors for $260?

[mortal grail]

It's called something like

MSI 272QPF-QD

[craggy shoal]

yes. spill the alphabet soup

[mortal grail]

It's really good

27" 1440p QLED

QLED IPS

[dusk knot]

🤔

[mortal grail]

So also BETTER than normal QLED

AND IPS

QLED traditionally ships in VA format

[devout forum]

MSI G274QPF-QD

[mortal grail]

That might be it yeah

[craggy shoal]

nah that's still IPS

[mortal grail]

YEs

IPS and QLED

Fast IPS in fact iirc

[craggy shoal]

maybe I suddenly don't understand monitors :0

[craggy shoal]

they call it their "Rapid IPS"

[mortal grail]

https://www.msi.com/Monitor/G274QPF-QD

[devout forum]

there is also the G272QPF E2 version (which is allegedly an improved version)

[mortal grail]

"Quantum Dot" is QLED

[dusk knot]

Hm

[mortal grail]

Is it QD tho

[craggy shoal]

oh there it is lolll

[devout forum]

doesn't say anywhere

it's such horse dung

[mortal grail]

Rip

[opaque sedge]

So the gpu i ordered powercolor fighter 7900gre is available in microcenter too wonderin if I should cancel the amazon order and get it here price matched

[devout forum]

the naming is incredibly confusing

[mortal grail]

Up to you

Try and barter if you do imo

Amazon is good with return policy

[devout forum]

what would be the difference?

[mortal grail]

They'd have to make it better

[devout forum]

in price

[opaque sedge]

if something goes wrong I can immediately come to the store and return the card

[opaque sedge]

No difference 520 bucks

[mortal grail]

Amazon will let you just return it

[mortal grail]

Not really worth it then

[devout forum]

I mean
If MC is close, might be worth

it's money vs time lost

[mortal grail]

It'd have to be better in price

[opaque sedge]

No lost in shipping drama tho right?

[mortal grail]

That's not how Amazon return works

[devout forum]

but ye if you already don't save on it then no need to bother

[opaque sedge]

got it

[mortal grail]

You box it back up, take it to one of their dropoff points

[craggy shoal]

Amazon returning is the easiest return method imo

[devout forum]

Better a chicken leg today than a turkey leg next week

[mortal grail]

When you drop it off, you get the refund

Amazon is probably the best for customer care policy because they don't like drama

[opaque sedge]

I’ll just get a surge protector then and wait on the rest of the stuff to get delivered

[topaz tusk]

What's QLED vs OLED? Never heard of QLED.

[opaque sedge]

Patience is key

Would be nice if I could get a monitor

But dont see any standouts here

[mortal grail]

QLED is samsung's proprietary tech that came out soon after OLED released years ago

It's like OLED without the typical drawbacks and risks

[topaz tusk]

ah

[mortal grail]

But you lose out on a few things as compromise

Like infinite blacks

[topaz tusk]

So I'm assuming it still burns your irises out like regular OLED.

[craggy shoal]

But still has deep blacks, right?

[opaque sedge]

Guys is waiting 4 days for my case worth it?

There’s one here in mc for 75

[devout forum]

Honestly OLED gives the best image for dark room, but there is a risk of image retention so it's not perfect for productivity use

[opaque sedge]

So i pay 10 bucks more

[mortal grail]

Just not 1000000:1

[devout forum]

Sadly there isn't any "perfect" display tech rn (that's widely available)

[mortal grail]

Yes

[opaque sedge]

Alright

[craggy shoal]

gotcha okay lolll

[topaz tusk]

I like my Plasma and LCD displays.

[opaque sedge]

I’ll pay for the cpu mobo and memory and head over to best buy to check monitors

[topaz tusk]

(When did the ding dongs up top decide to stop producing plasma displays btw?)

[mortal grail]

We go back to this^

[mortal grail]

Plasma was really redundant tech

Lol

[craggy shoal]

When they decided that modern LCDs are better lol

[mortal grail]

I haven't seen plasma since like 2015

You imagine all the problems of modern day screens of all kinds, right?
Now put them all in one TV.
✨ Plasma ✨

[topaz tusk]

Newer ones wern't that bad. Plus they're the least straining on your eyes. I think. (Maybe it's LCD. Idr)

[rancid juniper]

bro i could still remember that fuzzy feeling when you placed your wrist near an CRT screen

[mortal grail]

LCD and LED quickly moved us on from the old 2000's screen burners

[craggy shoal]

Oh I heard you like plasma TVs. How's the red tint bounce?

[opaque sedge]

So takinh a look at some keyboards and mice any recs?

[topaz tusk]

Doesn't OLED cause screen burning though?

[craggy shoal]

Keychron for the keyboard and any mouse that isn't Logitech

[rancid juniper]

got you bro

[mortal grail]

On current tech if you run it under 350 nits it's fine

[topaz tusk]

Idk what you mean when you say red tint bounce.

[devout forum]

It could, but modern ones don't do it that much anymore

[mortal grail]

CK720, G305 Lightspeed

[devout forum]

If you crank the crap out of it then you'll probably encounter it

[topaz tusk]

Ah

[craggy shoal]

Red colors on some plasma TVs would have sort of a "bounce" effect

[opaque sedge]

This?

[craggy shoal]

Solid keyboard

[topaz tusk]

Oh, Mine doesn't I'll tell ya that. Or that I've noticed at least.

[opaque sedge]

Is it wired?

Or wireless?

[mortal grail]

Wouldn't really matter

[topaz tusk]

When wired vs wireless matter is when you get to audio or mice.

[mortal grail]

What matters more imo for a keyboard is how it feels

[opaque sedge]

Any other standouts I should look for?

[topaz tusk]

Keyboards it doesn't really need taken into account. As all it is detecting are key presses.

[mortal grail]

How responsive it is

[mortal grail]

We won't know unless we see options

[topaz tusk]

Yep. Also durability and clicky noises.

XD

[sinful blade]

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-002D-000F0 @mortal grail since when did the 8600g exist

[mortal grail]

ages ago

[sinful blade]

Have I just been dumb

[topaz tusk]

I mean I'd recommend mine but I have no idea what the model name is. It like, Rosewill K56 or K86 or smth.

[mortal grail]

We got any other brands there lad

[sinful blade]

Is it a stronger cpu than something like a 5600g?

[mortal grail]

It's like a 7600 almost but with a 760m or 780m

[craggy shoal]

I mean most will work. I would avoid Razer or Logitech for keyboards. I'd also make sure that it has either red or brown switches

[sinful blade]

Ahhhhh

So is that link I posted a deal? Or just brain rot

[topaz tusk]

Just for fun, anyone wanna guess what OS I'm using?

[sinful blade]

Linux

[topaz tusk]

dang

But which diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistro???

[opaque sedge]

There’s this

For 40bucks

[topaz tusk]

That one looks nice.

[mortal grail]

Razer gen 3 yellows are ok

Would I rec a razer tho? Maybe a 2024 one

[topaz tusk]

Also how the blazes did you guess that quick

[mortal grail]

Prior to that are bleh

hm

[topaz tusk]

SHOOT DANG IT

[topaz tusk]

I've been clouded by my own arrogance

[mortal grail]

It keeps getting brighter

[topaz tusk]

My gosh bro are you at a Microcenter or smth>

[mortal grail]

IT'S BLAZING

[mortal grail]

GMMK2 alright but I believe that's missing like half the things you need

[topaz tusk]

Light Mode: Active

[craggy shoal]

God no

[craggy shoal]

I’ve heard these are good too

[mortal grail]

OOOOOOOOOOOO

I THINK INFINITY RECCS THIS

[craggy shoal]

You'd have to buy the switches and key caps

[topaz tusk]

Snazzy

[opaque sedge]

So this one here is 99 bucks

Comes with tactile switches or smth

[mortal grail]

@craggy shoal

[craggy shoal]

Never heard of the brand but it looks good

[mortal grail]

I'm not familiar with the stock version

I imagine not bad

[craggy shoal]

Anything that says "hot-swappable" is good imo

[opaque sedge]

Its from mc made by inland

Apparently

Feels really good

[craggy shoal]

Yeah I'd say go for it

I might pick one up now that we're talking about it lol

@opaque sedge do they have any of those keyboards with linear switches? :0

[gleaming rivet]

I like the color scheme

Compatible with qmk and via is good. Most likely a solid board.

[sinful blade]

You just got sonata’d

[craggy shoal]

Yes this

[opaque sedge]

Yeah its called red right?

[opaque sedge]

Whats qmk?

@craggy shoal

[opaque sedge]

It says huano red linear

[craggy shoal]

Perfect. I might pick one up later. Thanks :)

Haven't tried Huanos but I doubt they’re bad

[opaque sedge]

Any other brands you guys recommend?

Should I get a protection plan for the mobo

[opaque sedge]

Didn’t get it

@mortal grail

Got the goods

The rest of the components are coming thru amazon

Just need a monitor keyboard and mouse now

Oh an headphones too ig

@mortal grail I just found this on costco online

And there’s this acer too

[mortal grail]

The ram is a score

[mortal grail]

pass

[mortal grail]

pass

[mortal grail]

This one I know is good iirc

@young matrix I think you suggested this ye?

[tranquil pebble]

I wish AMD would make a Threadripper APU

Id love to see how an APU does when you feed it massive amounts of memory bandwidth

[mortal grail]

Might explode

[tranquil pebble]

Apple already feeds massive bandwidth to iGPUs so doubt it

I should Senko theme my Firefox and call it a Weeb browser

[velvet summit]

Firmware for keyboards (open source)

[velvet summit]

Tbh Costco prices for tech isn't the best
Their food and other more basic needs stuff are great though

Basically avoid their PC's and large kitchen appliances because they usually aren't cheaper than dedicated appliance stores (also they have fewer options)

But stuff like a Vitamix or KitchenAid does get on sale at Costco fairly often so if you ever see that, it might be worth nabbing

They also have ebikes, like $100 cheaper than MSRP without a sale

Though idk if those are worth it

[velvet summit]

(still around or over 1k)

[misty sparrow]

Huh, I thought PC sales like this at Costco were good

[opaque sedge]

Got all those three for 402.72 usd with tax, good deal or nah?

[mortal grail]

Did well yes

It's hynix M, which is fabulous ram

[opaque sedge]

Should I unbox the motherboard see what it looks like?

[velvet summit]

Hmm
5700x and 4060 for 700.... Idk it doesn't really seem cheaper than other retailers out there

[opaque sedge]

Hot damn

[velvet summit]

Yep, looks like a motherboard to me

Not a bunch of tungsten carbide

[opaque sedge]

Its making rattling noises

Is it supposed to do that?

[velvet summit]

Depends

Maybe something is loose

[worthy meteor]

What's making rattling noises? A fan?

[tough oxide]

hey guys, im tryna buy a pc for less than 1k. is newegg pc's trust worthy and can i be sure that i wont be scammed and get help if needed?

[opaque sedge]

The motherboard when I unboxed it

Like when I was trying to lift it made a rattle

I can record it

[worthy meteor]

Sounds normal, there's m.2 screws and other small pieces in small plastic bags inside that can make noises when you shake it

[sinful blade]

We can help you build one yourself, or, if you don’t want to, can find a prebuilt that works for you.

Building yourself is always cheaper.

[opaque sedge]

Ah got it thanks!

[tough oxide]

nah i just wanna buy a prebuilt one, less time and probably gonna do better than me

1st pc

i was looking at yeyian yumi gaming pc... but idk if its good.

[sinful blade]

Send it

[tough oxide]

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-002P-00044

i want to be able to game anything. like gta call of duty, cs and other games like that

[sinful blade]

@mortal grail

[mortal grail]

DIMM slot clips

they do that

[mortal grail]

I got no idea how reliable that is

Ask Bacca

[sinful blade]

Reviews are mostly positive

[tough oxide]

so its good to buy?

can i change operating system? i would prefer windows 10 than 11

[sinful blade]

Where is Bacca

@sweet phoenix

[sinful blade]

Wait for Bacca to respond today.
They know more about prebuilts

[opaque sedge]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sku/6541401.p?skuId=6541401

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sku/6572172.p?skuId=6572172

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sku/6571499.p?skuId=6571499

[opaque sedge]

What do u guys think of these monitors?

[tough oxide]

@opaque sedge i have the 1st monitor

curved ultra wide... and its really good

but sucks for some games cuz u get black boarder lines

[opaque sedge]

Which ones?

[tough oxide]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sku/6541401.p?skuId=6541401

[mortal grail]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-mag-274qrf-qd-e2-27-qhd-180hz-1ms-quantum-dot-gaming-monitor-with-hdr400-displayport-hdmi-usb-c-black/6572172.p?intl=nosplash&skuId=6572172

It's good but, Is it worth 80 over the 27q...hard to say

The QD screens are really good

You were trying to save some money tho

[young matrix]

Nope never heard of it

[opaque sedge]

Yeah probably gonna stick with the omen

[mortal grail]

Wonder who I was thinking of then

Sorry

[sinful blade]

@tough oxide if Bacca gives the thumbs up, you’ll have to tell me how it is. I actually posted that in #tech-deals-discussion
Wondered if it was good

[young matrix]

Looks good tho

[tough oxide]

ok i will let u know for sure

thank u for the help

[sinful blade]

I posted the AMD version***

[worthy meteor]

@tough oxide this might be better for a sub $1000 prebuilt
https://www.newegg.com/abs-za13400f4060ti-cyclone-aqua/p/N82E16883360483

[mortal grail]

Maybe it was @pseudo raven who showed me that one

idk

[worthy meteor]

$130 more for 4060ti instead of 4060, double the ram, and kinda better CPU

[tough oxide]

@worthy meteor can i change the operating system to 10?

[sinful blade]

Most computers allow you

[tough oxide]

also i cant seem to be able to choose 4060 ti

nvm

it comes with it automatically

[sinful blade]

This should be your selection

[worthy meteor]

You can reinstall it and install win10 but you'll have to have your own USB stick to do so

[tough oxide]

ok got it

and this is for sure good? i just dont wanna waste money on something that wont be that good

[sinful blade]

It looks good enough tbh

[worthy meteor]

Look around and compare for a bit, don't need to just ignore the other options now

[sinful blade]

^

[chrome mirage]

My supervisor was smiling and laughing about not letting me take a week off to visit family

[sinful blade]

I think viprtech has some deals

But they’re still a new company

[tough oxide]

ok got it

thank you guys for the help

i will keep looking

[sinful blade]

Send anything here you want

[tough oxide]

ok got it!

[chrome mirage]

My dog is wondering what I ordered

[worthy meteor]

Potentially food for him

[worthy meteor]

Nice PSU, maybe it'll be food next time

[chrome mirage]

I'm sure there are some tasty metals in there.

[worthy meteor]

Dog-friendly metals?

[sinful blade]

THE PYRAMIDS FROM DESTINY 2

[chrome mirage]

My dog will eat anything.

[weak cedar]

[mortal grail]

They're as excited as u are

[tranquil pebble]

lego touhou lol

[velvet summit]

https://youtu.be/ZwkNTwWJP5k

[tranquil pebble]

There's some cursed physics with AC especially at high voltage lol

[chrome mirage]

The guy keeps walking in and out the door of the carrier facility with your package

[weak cedar]

I'm trying to figure out how that's possible 😅

[pliant berry]

Im sure someone had proposed the idea several times

[mental yoke]

Yo

Anyone here

[dusk trail]

probably

think theres like over a hundred thousand people here

[mental yoke]

I just wanna rant for a second

Why is mercari suck now

[dusk trail]

cisco

[mental yoke]

They added a shi ton new fees

[dusk trail]

sounds like thats what happens when you get bought out by cisco

[mental yoke]

My $58 item is now $70 after taxes and fees

[pliant berry]

Mercari the shopping site?

[mental yoke]

Yes

[dusk trail]

oh

heh

[pliant berry]

Biught out by cisco?

[dusk trail]

i read meraki

[pliant berry]

Bruh

[mental yoke]

My $58.50 order is $70 after fees

And taxes

[dusk trail]

never heard of mercari

[mental yoke]

Shipping free

[mental yoke]

Its us and japan only

[pliant berry]

I never really used mercari, only really know the name

[dusk trail]

one of those new scammy shopping sites designed to funnel trash to the people that buy it, huh?

does anybody even shop on wish anymore?

[mental yoke]

No

Mercari is a second ebay

Its ebays biggest competitor

[dusk trail]

ill just keep using ebay thanks

[mental yoke]

Theres 3 guys in the third party marketplace scene

[pliant berry]

Ebay is so expensive

[mental yoke]

Mercari, Ebay, facebook marketplace

[dusk trail]

not if you are patient

[mental yoke]

Just look at mercari

Its a marketplace like eBay

[velvet summit]

Being in a city is crazy, everything is so close by

[mental yoke]

And looks prettier

[velvet summit]

10 minutes car ride to go get anything

[pliant berry]

Well yeah but it is always cheaper looking local, their fees are just too damn high

[velvet summit]

So used to 20 to 30 minute car rides to go anywhere

[mental yoke]

Suburbs > city > rural

City suburbs are the best

[velvet summit]

Way less traffic in suburbs that's for sure

[chrome mirage]

I didn't really have time to cable manage yet but my PC looks ready for a new GPU now. 1000W PSU will be a bit overkill for my 2080 Ti.

[mental yoke]

Ignoring that

There is so much less congestion

And so much more parking

And much bigger/cheaper houses

[pliant berry]

Depends

[velvet summit]

The whole reason why the car rides take 10 minutes in the city is because of all the traffic

Would be faster without

[mental yoke]

Ill take this

Over this

Any day of the week

[velvet summit]

Front loader crossing the street

[pliant berry]

Still looks better than queens

[mental yoke]

Queens is nice

But

Queens is considered city

Its physically part of New York City

[pliant berry]

The amount of traffic caused by schools in queens is ridiculous

[mental yoke]

Its not Queens NY, its Queens, New York City NY

[mental yoke]

Nah

Maybe its cause you guys have TWO airports

And almost every expressway/parkway in nyc

[rancid juniper]

nice looking build

[chrome mirage]

It'll look better when I upgrade my GPU

[pliant berry]

Well yeah but they have been fixing that, the airport traffic has gotten a lot better

[rancid juniper]

[mental yoke]

Also brooklyn-queens is the densest borough in nyc out of all

[pliant berry]

But if you get stuck in a school area when they are released you will be stuck on that road for at least another 30-45min

[mental yoke]

Thats the case with every school

[chrome mirage]

The build has been the same for 2 or 3 years now and the only thing I changed today was the power supply

[pliant berry]

Not further out in the suburbs. Queens is just too congested. There are too many cars and not enough space

[mental yoke]

Well queens is not a suburb

Its a city

[pliant berry]

I didn’t say it was

[rancid juniper]

i mean, as long as its functional and can play games i cant mind

[mental yoke]

Also queens has got good transit for most parts

[pliant berry]

Its a borough

[mental yoke]

Yes

Borough of New York City

[rancid juniper]

2080ti can run a good majority of modern pc games, even better with upscaling like fsr/xess

for now

[pliant berry]

As long as you trust the transit

[chrome mirage]

I've had that graphics card for 5 years so I'm ready for an upgrade

[mental yoke]

If you do

Then no need to worry about the 4 parkways

And 1 falling apart expressway

Seriously though, you guys need to do something about the BQE

[pliant berry]

I wonder what the world would be like if they had redone the stupid parkways and expressways

[mental yoke]

Bqe is a giant mess

[pliant berry]

But we can thank good ol robert for a lot of that

[mental yoke]

New york is so lazy to do anything about it

That triple cantilever is gonna be triple deaths soon

[mental yoke]

You know why theres so many parkways? Especially the belt?

[rancid juniper]

oh, fair

[mental yoke]

Cause robert thought only rich folks were deserving of the beach hamptons and rich stuff

[pliant berry]

I don’t remember why there are so many just know that they were only called parkways because moses was head of the parks department and couldn’t name them highways xD

[mental yoke]

This is why

[chrome mirage]

Now that I have a 5800x3d and a 1000W PSU the GPU is the next thing to upgrade

[mental yoke]

Due to this theres only two ways for trucks and buses to go around nyc

[pliant berry]

Well yeah he curved them all over the place because they had too much money, couldn’t demolish

[mental yoke]

Trucks hate nyc

[pliant berry]

Indeed

I saw some idiot try to drive a school bus on the northern state parkway

And no the roof did not clear the bridges

[mental yoke]

Those my fav videos

One where trucks and buses try to use parkway and hit the bridge

[pliant berry]

I think the driver didn’t understand english and missed all the signs xD

[mental yoke]

Theres only 2 highways through nyc that allow trucks

I-278

And CBE

Both are 24/7 gridlock

[pliant berry]

I wonder what the delivery companies do about the congestion pricingn

[mental yoke]

They dont get impacted unless its manhattan

As long as its above 60th street

[pliant berry]

Ye

[mental yoke]

And below manhattan

New york city be like: lets remove a lane

Because we dont wanna fix a bridge on the only highway trucks can travel on in brooklyn

[rancid juniper]

you kept your pc parts longer than 95% of pcmr people

[chrome mirage]

I try to keep things for at least 5 years. I had to upgrade my case and fans fairly early though because it was overheating

[rancid juniper]

oh

oofs

[chrome mirage]

I sell my old parts to friends and family for cheap when I'm done with them

[rancid juniper]

i always found my pc cooling "questionable" compared to others

dunno if my case is actually at fault here

[chrome mirage]

My cpu and gpu were both running over 90C in that case so I needed an upgrade

[north crescent]

Me when gravity was the only thing keeping my old res/pump connected to each other

[rancid juniper]

😂

[chrome mirage]

Now they easily stay under 80C

[rancid juniper]

good

[grand kernel]

I'm sad

[rancid juniper]

why?

[grand kernel]

I finally gave tidal a try and they honestly have more of my music than I expected but they're still missing too much for switching from spotify to be viable for me

[rancid juniper]

kek

[grand kernel]

😔

[mortal grail]

It's official

JP finally came out of his shell

The goat we all thought he was all along

[random osprey]

angled fan header

[mortal grail]

TACHYOOONNNNN

[elfin mural]

Cursed

[modern imp]

👀

[elfin mural]

that's

pretty nice

[tranquil pebble]

wasnt cheap but it was the cheapest I've seen an official fumo on ebay lol

[opaque sedge]

Is this good?

[modern imp]

that's capped framerate for PPW testing but still that's very impressive that the entire thing including dram can match "gaming" performance of MTL at a fraction of the power

the Claw2 might actually be okay if MSI center gets updated and improved

[opaque sedge]

Whats the safest way I can hook a pc to power if I dont know my house electrical is grounded or not

[pliant berry]

language please

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/i-understood-that-reference-chris-evans-steve-rogers-captain-america-solnishka-gif-23187399

[sinful blade]

@dusk knot @sour falcon final shape is cracked

[gleaming rivet]

This was ridiculous.

[pseudo raven]

nope but nice keyboard it seems