general-chat

[empty night]

Oh ok but the 7900x3d is 100 dollars off right now

[mortal grail]

i.e micromanaging

[mortal grail]

I'm aware, I'm saying this despite the 350 price tag

[empty night]

Ohh ok

[mortal grail]

If you know your way around process lasso and you're ok with changing 300 different things when you first start using the pc, 7900x3d is fine

[sinful blade]

They actually just put the original games back up on steam due to the help from modders

[mortal grail]

But if you're not initiated with scheduling, cppc and all that

Don't do 7900x3d

[misty sparrow]

oh they did? i was talking about the new one they're making

https://www.marathonthegame.com/

[empty night]

Alright so everything is better on the 7800x3d?

[sinful blade]

Ye

[mortal grail]

You'll hear it from others "It's not that bad" and I am exaggerating this a bit, but I've met a lot of people who, like me, struggled with dual ccd x3d

Sometimes issues take months to fix

[mortal grail]

I would, a 7800x3d and a cheap compact cooler

You may even find a single tower in pink

Odds are higher than an aio

[empty night]

Either pink or white I’m getting

[mortal grail]

White is easy

Se-214 xt is $18 and white rgb

[empty night]

I can send you the links later of everything I’m buying or have picked right now.

[mortal grail]

Or assassin thermalright in pure white

Sure

[empty night]

I’m going to get on my computer in five minutes so I can send you it then

[mortal grail]

There's nothing wrong with an aesthetic pc btw, but shopping smart in the process, you'll afford so much more and save a ton of headache

You can have the looks and the price if you know how to look, but unless you fork out hundreds extra, it'll never be perfect in appearance

[empty night]

The 7800x3d is also ddr5?

[mortal grail]

Mhm

[empty night]

Like I said, I’ll send you the stuff and a few think something is better. Would you be able to tell me?

[mortal grail]

Sure

[empty night]

Ty

[mortal grail]

I'll send another list with changes

[empty night]

Alright

For now, I’ll just go with the color white

[mortal grail]

Most of the time when I send feedback, I send back a list that isn't really at all any slower, usually faster or much faster

Or slower in some places for a good reason (e.g slower ssd as no human on the planet needs gen 5)

[craggy shoal]

Felix's pfp describes Felix himself

[empty night]

Woah the 7900x3d’s price is crazy yesterday it was 392 on Amazon now it’s 360

[misty sparrow]

You know what else has 360? The Xbox 360.

[mortal grail]

tech nerd
golf driver
Partially insane

[misty sparrow]

I'd rather get an Xbox 360 and play fun games on that than get a 7900x3d

[sinful blade]

The Xbox 360 marketplace is leaving

So you can’t

[misty sparrow]

don't remind me

[craggy shoal]

accurate

[misty sparrow]

also still has physical

[sinful blade]

It’s a good thing

[misty sparrow]

so 10/10

[craggy shoal]

weird decision but okay

[sinful blade]

Didn’t the Xbox 360 run on zen 1

[mortal grail]

Tbh I would too

[mortal grail]

Predates zen 1

[sinful blade]

Or something really bad

[misty sparrow]

still a less unusual solution than buying a 7900x3d

[empty night]

I can’t dm you

[mortal grail]

Yes, send link here

[empty night]

Oki

[mortal grail]

Or build chat

[empty night]

Case
GPU
Mobo
RAM
CPU
Fans (Buying twice)
CPU Cooler
PSU

[craggy shoal]

bruh

💀

[mortal grail]

If my dms were open my discord would be actually unusable

[empty night]

I get it

[mortal grail]

Ok this is gonna take me a minute as amazon links are a pain on this phone

[empty night]

I get it take your time!

The psu is from new egg.

[craggy shoal]

PC Part Picker list ❌
Individual links ✅

[empty night]

Not all my friends use that site so its easier to send it on discord like that.

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-think-thinking-gif-5059284

[craggy shoal]

L friends tbh

[empty night]

Honestly most of my friends are bad

[gentle canyon]

no pc partpicker?? get new friends

[gentle canyon]

then they arent your friends

[mortal grail]

No ssd?

[craggy shoal]

Friends: I am anti PC Part Picker 😠

[empty night]

They arent all PC peopke

[empty night]

I forgot give me a sec :c

[mortal grail]

Looks fine so far

If you want more white I can provide more white

[lofty fossil]

whats a good used gpu for under like 120-130

[empty night]

Sure!

[mortal grail]

5700xt

[lofty fossil]

you can find it under 120-130!?

ive only seen 170-ish

[empty night]

This is expensive or can you find a cheaper one? https://a.co/d/0nWwger

[craggy shoal]

none 💀

[empty night]

If im not with them I have no one

[pliant berry]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-spiderman-vanish-gif-14823380

[mortal grail]

@empty night
Ssd
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dgqrxr/kingspec-xg7000-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-xg-7000-2tb
Mobo
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs-wifi

Wait while I send case options

[empty night]

The thing is dont you think a micro atx is to small?

[mortal grail]

Your pc needs don't dictate you needing a regular size board

Does nothing for you

Except add black instead of white lol

Case 1/2

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Bcn9TW/sama-argb-q5-microatx-mini-tower-case-argb-q5-w
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wvmmP6/montech-air-100-argb-microatx-mid-tower-case-air-100-argb-white
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qJrRsY/fractal-design-pop-mini-air-microatx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-por1m-01
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y27scf/asus-prime-ap201-microatx-mini-tower-case-prime-ap201-tg-wh

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-anime-evil-smile-evil-smile-anime-gif-7151710252765704657

felix spamming

[empty night]

The thing is for cases I want one that has glass on the front 2 sides I can show you an example

[craggy shoal]

I really like this Asus case. I have it and it's nice. But I'd go with the Montech for the same price

[misty sparrow]

no it's just the LSD kicking in

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-mute-muted-moderator-mod-gif-11435903266794621328

[mortal grail]

Case 2/2
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9XwmP6/sama-im01-pro-microatx-mini-tower-case-sama-im01-pro-wg
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gtfxFT/sama-ar01-rgb-microatx-mini-tower-case-ar01-rgb-w
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gXGhP6/msi-mag-pano-m100r-pz-microatx-mid-tower-case-mag-pano-m100r-pz-white

[misty sparrow]

if you read the past two hours you would understand

[mortal grail]

I know, I have 2 of these here

[empty night]

I love this style

[mortal grail]

Look up

I'm putting multiple options out there so you keep your mind open

[empty night]

oki

[icy ore]

[gentle canyon]

random side bar, why does modern navy look so boring like look at this it goes so hard

[undone matrix]

Anyone here have decent experience with custom keyboards? I was wondering if anyone had suggestions for keyboards similar to the Zoom75? I hate to say it, but I am def falling for the trend of creamy keyboards

[craggy shoal]

Get a Keychron. Very good entry-level keyboards

[gentle canyon]

all 4 iowas in one place, only time it ever happened for context*

[gentle canyon]

yes

do this its what i use

[empty night]

[craggy shoal]

I have like three V-series Keychron keyboards lol

[undone matrix]

Am I cooked?

[empty night]

nah

[mortal grail]

@empty night forgot to suggest this one, has an matx configuration specifically https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9rt9TW/lian-li-o11-air-mini-atx-mid-tower-case-o11amw

[undone matrix]

Most badass photo of all time imo is this one, the sheer level of equipment continuing to flood onto the beach.

[mortal grail]

Z20 my beloved:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wmZXsY/jonsbo-jonsplus-z20-microatx-desktop-case-z20-white

[undone matrix]

I kinda want an LCD screen, even if its gimicking I just... want it

[empty night]

Whats the big tower called like Mid tower I think?

[mortal grail]

Full tower?

Like big big?

[empty night]

wait let me get the real name

[mortal grail]

#peripherals-and-displays

[craggy shoal]

epomaker

[undone matrix]

real

fair

[empty night]

mid tower thats what I like

[mortal grail]

The keyboard lurkers hang there

[undone matrix]

I want some oil kings

(not the UAE kind)

[mortal grail]

Not a whole lot I could say then at this point, there are white atx boards but you pay more when the eagle is just plain better

[empty night]

[gentle canyon]

like war sucks and all but its also cool

[undone matrix]

Hell yeah brother

[gentle canyon]

lets casually unite the planet so we can have venator star destroyers

https://tenor.com/view/venator-gif-21623033

[empty night]

Its ok I will get the motherboard you picked and I will use the case I originally had.

[undone matrix]

for global peace* yes

[mortal grail]

If you're gonna do that, suggestion:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/s/F13WOb0iUx

[gentle canyon]

chad xfx

[mortal grail]

Good way to run mATX cabling in an atx case

You run it behind the board then pop the board in (Provided nothing is squeezed too hard by the board)

[dusk knot]

Hmm

[mortal grail]

Since aesthetics matter to you, you can make a case look really good like this with minimal cabling

[empty night]

Alrighty I will try that!

[mortal grail]

Ironically this matx build is cleaner than any ATX build will ever be in this 4000D lmao

Bro knew what he was doing lol

[empty night]

wait if I put the gpu in side ways wont it look less empty?

[mortal grail]

yeah you can do that for sure

hides the bottom of the mobo too

[empty night]

Do you think it will look bad?

[mortal grail]

I do it in my current build

[gentle canyon]

vertical gpus can look very clean

[mortal grail]

it's unnoticeable

[empty night]

Can I see your pc?

[mortal grail]

Unless you spend your days staring behind the gpu you won't know

[gentle canyon]

if you dont like it and unless you have a hyte you can put it back to horizontal

[mortal grail]

My pics are on my phone and my phone died 10 minutes ago

💀

[empty night]

oh

[undone matrix]

you could be like me with a gaming PC, all lit up

but shoved under the desk ❤️

[mortal grail]

I use an X670E Gene in an O11 Evo

[undone matrix]

only to be pulled out for a dusting

[empty night]

Crazy username lol

[empty night]

Sounds good

Would 1500 be good for a set up?

[undone matrix]

☠️

[mortal grail]

https://lian-li.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/evo-600-000.jpg

[mortal grail]

?

Open ended question gets open confused response

[gentle canyon]

i drew it from memory!

[empty night]

is $1500 a good amount for a nice setup

[mortal grail]

yeah babbyyyyy

[mortal grail]

ofc

[empty night]

lol

[empty night]

oki

[mortal grail]

What people judge in the PC community is not the amount spent, it's the attention to detail and care taken

[empty night]

You should buy me 3 4090

[undone matrix]

Very much something I have noticed

[mortal grail]

If you go splash on 10 grand of coarse hair people are going to say you are careless with money

[empty night]

Makes sense I want mine to look nice and preform good

[mortal grail]

however if you have thought a pc through to the nine's and calculably spent 1500 people will respect that

[undone matrix]

If you don't want to build, which it's cool if you do, I got mine on Newegg for an excellent deal

[mortal grail]

7800x3d and 7900gre is a very nice combo

[undone matrix]

borderline still of 1500 and it was like 2300

[empty night]

I want a 4080 super founder edition

[mortal grail]

those do look nice ngl lol

No founders where I am tho

Whole market over here that wants 'em

[empty night]

oh thats sad

lol

[undone matrix]

4070ti, Ryzen 5 7600x, 32gb of DDR5 RAM (which I did upgrade to XPG)

[empty night]

brb im going to add up the price of my set up

[mortal grail]

Bacon yours should be near or around 1200 to 1500

[empty night]

That’s good!

[mortal grail]

125+144+350+86+33+560+106+89

about 1400-ish somewhere around there

1493

give or take a few dollars

[tacit geode]

wassup

New setup

[empty night]

Weird I got 1530

[mortal grail]

I used brain math

[undone matrix]

I feel like I have seen this somewhere, why

[mortal grail]

oh you know what the extra fans

forgot they existed

I got 1519 using brain

[tacit geode]

Nowhere unless you're in an ark survival evolved server I'm in

[empty night]

Wait is there a cheaper ssd than this? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C58FVB9V?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_0VZVE1V9PVFYKC7QSW1R

[mortal grail]

do you mind dramless or gen 3

because yes there are

but that's the cheapest best for video editing

[empty night]

I don’t know what that is because I started learning about computers like a week and a half ago

[nocturne flicker]

In this sphere of the PC community at least. There are always the places that love expensive junk with rgb

[empty night]

You know better then me if you think it will work good for the things I would like to do then sure!

[mortal grail]

there's this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2VJgXL/teamgroup-mp44l-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpk002t0c101

and this

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/C3xbt6/team-mp33-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6002t0c101

lower than that no, go 1TB

oh yeah this one

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/266NnQ/western-digital-blue-sn580-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t3b0e

[undone matrix]

What are our thoughts on the NZXT Kraken coolers? I like those LCD ones too but I was not sure if there were others similar with better data? idk

[mortal grail]

That one isn't dramless or gen 4

[tacit geode]

I love the fact of my case and fans.

I paid 0$

[undone matrix]

Westen Digital is something I am a brand wh*re about

[empty night]

Why is this one cheaper? Like what makes it cheaper?

[mortal grail]

several factors

[empty night]

Like what?

[mortal grail]

#1 cheaper to produce and more widespread

I'm explaining lol

[empty night]

Oh yea sorry

[mortal grail]

#2 dramless so it uses HMB on the ram instead to cache

Without speaking too alien it means it lets the rest of the pc do part of the work so it doesn't need the parts on the stick

[empty night]

So should I get more ram?

[mortal grail]

#3 it's real world performance is much slower

[empty night]

Oh alright

[mortal grail]

no it's like, 100mb

it's nothing

[empty night]

Alright

[empty night]

Is it noticeable?

[tacit geode]

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-8tb-mp600-pro-nh/p/N82E16820236921?Item=N82E16820236921&SoldByNewegg=1

perfect

Ill buy 4 of these for my pc

[mortal grail]

The SN580 is probably the cheapest option before you sacrifice performance well and truly

[empty night]

💀

[mortal grail]

The kingspec is very good though

[empty night]

I’ll buy 3

[undone matrix]

DAYUM he's got money

[mortal grail]

Amongst the best of it's class

[empty night]

Oki I’ll look at it

[tacit geode]

I wish @undone matrix i have a child on way so any money i get is saved

[mortal grail]

For the things you're doing not really, it's video editing where you'll notice it

4K scrubbing you can definitely see a difference

Is it meaningful in that way? Not...really?

[tacit geode]

4k raw sure

[mortal grail]

Depends how meticulous you are when you edit

[undone matrix]

That's awesome man, congrats!

[empty night]

I’m not going to edit things in 4k

[mortal grail]

of course

Maybe not now, but later you might

And in 5 years that kingspec will be clutch yk?

[empty night]

Yea

I get it

[mortal grail]

$15 for something like that imo makes a bit of sense

Like spending $30 on a psu to make it an amazing choice instead of plain

[empty night]

Alright I’ll get it

[mortal grail]

If you want to trim the budget down, swap the cooler

[sinful blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZdqWRK
@mortal grail gimme a case for it

[empty night]

You think there is a better one for cheaper?

[mortal grail]

nothing is better for that price, but you don't need one that big for a 7800x3d

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YwbTwP/id-cooling-se-214-xt-682-cfm-cpu-cooler-se-214-xt-argb-white
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/r6qrxr/thermalright-assassin-x-refined-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ax120se-white

These two are solid

[empty night]

https://a.co/d/1mXw6hu here

[undone matrix]

What RAM are you going with?

[empty night]

It’s cheap

[mortal grail]

M60 mesh

Also 2080ti with that psu?

Idk if I would

[sinful blade]

I want something a little more… appealing

[mortal grail]

I would pick something better

[sinful blade]

I already have it

[mortal grail]

better psu first imo

[sinful blade]

I can sell it

[empty night]

I’m getting the rbg one can I control it like the patterns it does?

[mortal grail]

2080ti will probably trip that a550bn

[mortal grail]

yep

[sinful blade]

What’s the next cheapest option you recommend

[mortal grail]

I would get a focus tbh

[empty night]

Same with the cheap fans I’m buying (the $13)

[mortal grail]

Bare minimumhttps://pcpartpicker.com/product/xfV2FT/msi-mag-a650gl-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a650gl

best

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xfV2FT/msi-mag-a650gl-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a650gl

2080ti doesn't pull 750w worth of power no, but Turing isn't as efficient as a 4070 or 3070

[misty sparrow]

Never mind helldivers 2 is running so bad it crashed immediately after turning on fullscreen

[mortal grail]

A good 650 imo

[sinful blade]

@mortal grail they’re the same

[mortal grail]

Indeed they are

It didn't copy

[empty night]

What’s ARGB

[sinful blade]

[mortal grail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/97848d/seasonic-focus-gx-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-focus-gx-750

[sweet phoenix]

rgb but customizable colors

[viral cipher]

Hello :3

[empty night]

Oh ok

[viral cipher]

Anyone streamer here ?

[mortal grail]

make pink make any colour

[viral cipher]

Uhmm ?

[empty night]

That’s good

[empty night]

One day maybe

[tacit geode]

@viral cipher streamers arent real

[sinful blade]

I’ll probably grab the 750w for futureproof

[tacit geode]

Like pigeons

[mortal grail]

Pigeons are just government drones

[pliant berry]

chat is this real

[sinful blade]

No

[tacit geode]

no

[undone matrix]

erm

[empty night]

Do you want to be friends?

[tacit geode]

a bot doesnt need freinds

[pliant berry]

in all seriousness though was there a specific question you were looking to get answered?

[sinful blade]

Probably spam

[mortal grail]

wtf 💀

[mortal grail]

I don't mind

[empty night]

:D

[tacit geode]

you're a bot

[pliant berry]

what if... none of us are actually real?

[undone matrix]

okay girl not now

[mortal grail]

Nuh uh

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-existentialism-what-high-gif-5364805

[mortal grail]

Using 0% of his true power

[empty night]

So good looking

[sinful blade]

White case+light pink fans

[empty night]

It’s white just with pink lighting?

[sinful blade]

Ez

[sinful blade]

More than likely

[mortal grail]

Go look up thermalright M12

You like fans like that? Thermalright makes good ones

[empty night]

I get a headache thinking like that

[empty night]

Oki I’ll check it out

[tacit geode]

prove it

[empty night]

Wait for the exhaust don’t you need like reverse blade fans?

[sweet phoenix]

no

[mortal grail]

Unless you want to pay $50 a fan, or you can find the extremely rare thermalright C12R, you're not getting reverse fans

You can just use a normal fan backwards

[empty night]

Ok but doesn’t it look worse?

[empty night]

Not paying that much I’m poor right now

[mortal grail]

Worse is subjective lol

Not really an easy answer

[tacit geode]

i may have to enable RDP on my rog ally

lol

[mortal grail]

You can put white stickers on the fan labels on the back

not much else you can do

[mortal grail]

I'll go eat lunch and prove it

[pliant berry]

no one really looks at it

[tacit geode]

woah

you can do that

i cant eat food

i must be bot

[mortal grail]

A.I will remember this

[tacit geode]

damn it

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-what-the-hell-is-that-tftbl-game-cinematic-gif-9117043

[tacit geode]

i cant use rdp cause of "home":

[empty night]

Makes sense

So if I get all white and do pink lighting it will give the whole thing like a pink tint?

[mortal grail]

yes

[sinful blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9nrYcf/apevia-apevia-co512l-pk-cosmos-120mm-pink-led-ultra-silent-case-fan-w-16-leds-anti-vibration-rubber-pads-5-pack-5667-cfm-120-mm-fans-5-pack-co512l-pk

Apevia just does everything don’t they

[mortal grail]

Soft pinks usually look better in white cases

[chrome mirage]

Aurora borealis

[sinful blade]

So many apevia products in so many different areas of the pc

[mortal grail]

Have no idea how good those are

The blade design is weird af lmao

[sinful blade]

It’s like a hook almost

[empty night]

lol

Ummm what is this https://a.co/d/093Cx1d

[sinful blade]

What in the fan design

[icy ore]

bad

[pliant berry]

someone that only went to design school

[empty night]

I don’t know but it’s $25 per fan

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah I think they've done a bunch of fans like this

They really are a designers take on engineering

[sinful blade]

They look terrible

[empty night]

What

Why is it like that

[sinful blade]

img_3977.avif

Hot

[empty night]

Wait let me screenshot it

It’s a white founders edition card

[sinful blade]

So expensive

[mortal grail]

Guessing paint

[mortal grail]

Yeah paint

[empty night]

Looks great

[sinful blade]

Painted

[empty night]

If paint mine if I had one

[mortal grail]

I think I prefer the super all blackout

[sinful blade]

I wanna paint my entire setup neon green

[empty night]

How come?

[sinful blade]

When I have it

[empty night]

Why

[sinful blade]

Neon green is best colour

[mortal grail]

I like blackout

I've long grown out of rgb

[empty night]

Nice

[mortal grail]

It happens to everyone eventually lol

[sinful blade]

I began with blackout

[mortal grail]

The rgb is no longer appealing and you fall for stylish

[sinful blade]

And no longer want it

[empty night]

I just like how it stands out

It’s not like I want the rainbow color just want white or pink

[mortal grail]

It's like

[sinful blade]

https://www.amazon.com/APEVIA-CF512L-GN-120mm-Motherboard-Silent/dp/B01BLVUAL0/

This is what I’m getting for case fans next case

[mortal grail]

Going from nice coloured t shirts to something cut and trendy from a place like say, idk what they have over there, hugo boss?

[empty night]

💀

[mortal grail]

I don't shop hugo but that's probably my best example

Call it maturity lol

[sinful blade]

I usually just stick with plain v necks or tshirts

[empty night]

I get it

[sinful blade]

Or maybe an old graphic tee

I feel old for being 24

[mortal grail]

Actually @empty night if you want a reasonable idea of what my pc looks like

[sinful blade]

https://www.mydiypcusa.com/product/computer-case/tempered-glass-cases/diy-tg8-series/diypc-diy-tg8-bg-black-green-dual-usb3-0-steel-tempered-glass-atx-mid-tower-gaming-computer-case-w-tempered-glass-panels-front-top-and-both-sides-and-pre-installed-3-x-green-33led-light-fan

[mortal grail]

Mine's inverted with a water loop

[empty night]

It looks nice

[sinful blade]

GREEN PC

[mortal grail]

I love stuff like this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FV3MWFNWQAAleCv?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[empty night]

Cyan pc

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[empty night]

I like stuff like this

[mortal grail]

This appeals to me too

[sinful blade]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1W8-017N-00026

[sinful blade]

@mortal grail RGB MOTHERBOARD

[empty night]

What

[mortal grail]

just a light strip

[sinful blade]

I know

[mortal grail]

I have rgb backplates

Like proper ones

I've done it all with rgb lol

Then I died inside and had a hard falling out, now I detest it

[empty night]

Wrong thing

[sinful blade]

I’m gonna have this as my pc eventually

neon green

[empty night]

Psu on the top?

[sinful blade]

PSU on bottom

[mortal grail]

That's a painted antec case

[sinful blade]

Every time

[mortal grail]

Why

Fractal torrent says hello

[empty night]

What do you mean?

[sinful blade]

Looks better

[empty night]

No I’m asking like is it on the top?

[sinful blade]

Unless you’re hiding it behind the back plate

[sinful blade]

Yes

[empty night]

Oh

[mortal grail]

I forgot the model but it's an antec case, yes psu on top

[empty night]

That’s weird

[sinful blade]

Bottom PSU gang

[mortal grail]

PC cases used to always have it on top

Like every single one used to be like this

[empty night]

How come they changed

[mortal grail]

lol

idk

[sinful blade]

Style

[mortal grail]

Once SSD's became mainstream a lot changed

[sinful blade]

Airflow works better up top too

Better to shove air not into the floor

[mortal grail]

Torrent works fine like this

[empty night]

Wait if the psu is on the top no fans on the top :c

[mortal grail]

Also most of my favourite cases have a psu not on the bottom lol

[sinful blade]

@empty night I keep thinking your name is bunny because of your pfp

[empty night]

I want the psu on the back

[empty night]

lol

[sinful blade]

Put it in a slot behind the mb, or on the bottom

No other

[mortal grail]

There are ones with PSU on the front

Z20, D41, D31, AP201, all examples of this

[empty night]

I like dual chamber or whatever it’s called

[mortal grail]

Front PSU is the most compact case layout rn

[sinful blade]

Not my style

[empty night]

How come?

I don’t like these dual chambers since it’s not a perfect rectangle

[sinful blade]

I just prefer cases like the G360A and stuff

[mortal grail]

Those cases are fine

Tho I have to admit the look gets boring fast

Hell I'm bored af of both them and dual chamber

[sinful blade]

Agreed

[empty night]

Looks nice but I like 2 glass panels without the metal in the middle

[sinful blade]

Get a y60 or y70

[mortal grail]

Fun fact, some of those cases sag

[empty night]

I don’t like does

[empty night]

What do you mean

[mortal grail]

That corner, with no support

[empty night]

SZD ATX PC case, S590 White Gaming Computer Chassis with 270° Full View Seamless Tempered Glass, High-Airflow Dual-Chamber Computer Tower Case for Cable Management, Fans not Included https://a.co/d/3Gg2GMU

[mortal grail]

If they aren't built rigid enough, can sag

You keep linking this case I have no idea about

[empty night]

Me neither but I like it

[gleaming rivet]

Can I roll a d20 to see if I can magically turn him into a real boy?

[sinful blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/

This is much better of a case finder @empty night

[gleaming rivet]

Fail. Totally meant to tag @mortal grail

[empty night]

Alright

[empty night]

Check this out on @Newegg:Gamemax Infinity White USB3.0 /Type C Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case w/ DualTempered Glass Panels (Fans Not Included) https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811445035?Item=N82E16811445035&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-11-445-035-_-05122024

[mortal grail]

I'm not a puppet! *Coffee stirrer grows longer *

[gleaming rivet]

Might need a usb warmer to go with that sir.

[empty night]

@sinful blade it looks very basic on the back

[mortal grail]

That's what an O11 looks like on the back

[empty night]

Is it good?

[mortal grail]

Don't buy a gamemax anything unless it's 1 of 3 items

That case is not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHfmA1zlGZU&pp=ygUTZ2FtZXJzbmV4dXMgZ2FtZW1heA%3D%3D

[gleaming rivet]

The o11d evo is a wonderful case.

[empty night]

Alright

[mortal grail]

Watch the video above if you want a good reason

I only recommend specific things from them

[empty night]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nzxt-h9-flow-atx-mid-tower-case-with-dual-chamber-white/6529623.p?skuId=6529623

[mortal grail]

I always say no to H9

[sinful blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FCPQzy/cooler-master-haf-700-evo-atx-full-tower-case-h700e-ignn-s00

[mortal grail]

There's always a better option

[sinful blade]

This is my goal case

[empty night]

Whyyyy

[mortal grail]

Look up O11 vision

[empty night]

I did

[mortal grail]

There's always a better option

[empty night]

Yea I guess

[sinful blade]

50 pounds of pure potential

Beautiful

[mortal grail]

Just FYI, the like, 3rd most common troubleshooting issue in the cooler master server is "Why won't my front LCD work?" for this case specifically

Most common is "Does this fit in my NR200P?"

Lol

[sinful blade]

I want it

[mortal grail]

I mean that's fine, it's a cool case

Just forewarning you about that

Look it could be way worse, it could be a Corsair aio, those like barely working with iCue ever

[sinful blade]

What ever happened to lian li’s odyssey line?

[mortal grail]

wym

Odyssey still exists

[empty night]

I don’t like those style it’s to thick

[mortal grail]

Not recommending the case LOL

I see why you were thinking that, it's about the company

[empty night]

Oh

[sinful blade]

@empty night get this

the box

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nVZXsY/azza-sanctum-atx-desktop-case-csaz-810

[mortal grail]

Lol

Azza make some weird ones too

[empty night]

Ok I’m buying 3 of them

[sinful blade]

Azza’s creations are a lovely thing to look at

[mortal grail]

This is actually a fun case to watercool

https://www.amazon.com.au/AZZA-Regis-902-Infinity-Tempered/dp/B09JNDQKXD/

[empty night]

https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-0319-00088?Item=9SIBFGVJNN1403&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIBFGVJNN1403-_-05122024

[mortal grail]

Also this

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EpA230swpxc/maxresdefault.jpg

The Cast 808 is really nice imo, but you have to build in a very specific way or it's terrible

[sinful blade]

I want a lancool 2 mesh

But they’re expensive

[empty night]

Guys I’m going to bed now that’s for talking

[mortal grail]

then you have the more bespoke like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GncN5WBcP2Q&ab_channel=GGFEvents

[empty night]

Good night!

[mortal grail]

Or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq5OESjWFhU&ab_channel=GGFEvents

[mortal grail]

gn

[empty night]

[sinful blade]

Jonesbo c6

So small

[mortal grail]

Really good case if if fits your size needs

It's like a meshroom but more compact

[elfin mural]

LMAO

[wary fjord]

Sleep 2am

[icy ore]

never sleep

[wary fjord]

Whos never

XD 🤣

[mortal grail]

I've corrupted Tomie

That was well and truly a dad joke

[wary fjord]

XD

[craggy shoal]

Tomie never sleeps

[wary fjord]

Reeeeee

https://youtube.com/shorts/0tkcmlxbDNA?si=MxrItpeiNpbaQi21

Im craving for cheese cant sleep

https://youtube.com/shorts/88lhqumAHis?si=GAEndaqL3TPq7tPR

This food is not for sensitive nose but but its a good food.

[cedar compass]

[wary fjord]

Chris Brown - Weakest Link hit hard xD

what happen to him xD he was rnb singer

but its fine the song is fire

[random osprey]

he still sings

he's also always rapped, not mainly but he has in the past and some other songs

[mental yoke]

Uh anyone awake?

[icy ore]

No

[mortal grail]

Nah

[cedar compass]

Why lol

[tranquil pebble]

bruh lol

[wary fjord]

asia go brrr

this is not even close its 50c here

[dusk knot]

Well that's horrifying

It was 35c a few days ago for me

That 47 is very concerning

[wary fjord]

haha

i prefer colgate flax than listerine

listerine burn my mouth xD

colgate falx is chill

[mortal grail]

??

I find them both to be a small mint grenade

Idk what flax you got but it sounds lax as heck

The flax is usually alcohol free tbf

[wary fjord]

yes

thats why it dint burn xD i guess

[wary fjord]

i also have this

[mortal grail]

I use the same

Freshmint for many years

But sometimes I do listerine

Whatever is cheaper lol, they both work well

[wary fjord]

listerine burn is like acid .. and i was thinking it was due to its killing bacteria

thats why it hurt

hahaha

im shifting my perspective so i can bear to use it

but im so done with it xD

[mortal grail]

Reading this gave me such an exaggerated perspective of what's going on in that mouth of yours

Lol

Mouthwash can feel a lot like that early on, I spent most of my young years using it religiously

I got used to it I guess

[wary fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYBHSDUcbYA

i have axiety to play this arcade game in public haha

because they all watching you

i feel im gonna melt

[mortal grail]

Use some flax

You'll feel cool again

[wary fjord]

u kow those soda candy

that if u put ur mouth

they start jumping

kinda effect

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah

[wary fjord]

hahaa

[mortal grail]

Cool off with some soda

And some flax

[dusk knot]

AHEM. there's a word on there.

[mortal grail]

Omg I didn't see it

Haha my bad

My Australian blood left me blind to it

[dusk knot]

💀

[hollow barn]

Hi

How would you rate the pancakes from 1 to 5?

The white haze is because I cracked the glass in front of the camera

[mortal grail]

Pancakes are round so probably a 0

[hollow barn]

They got banana flavor

[mortal grail]

Banana a curvy so probably a 3

[hollow barn]

PS: the pan was also round

[hollow barn]

And with Nutella?

[wary fjord]

i say 4/10

no syrup

and butter

and not fluffy enough

😦

[hollow barn]

Okay chill, I got like 2 bananas in there

[mortal grail]

Nut sounds like naught so 0

[hollow barn]

But tomie had a point

They are dense

[wary fjord]

yeah

[hollow barn]

Btw, I'm not American, the batter has only:

Milk
Wheat
Eggs
Bananas

[wary fjord]

that looks like stuff they serve in school

with margarine

xD

[hollow barn]

I used sunflower oil

Btw, no recipe was followed

[wary fjord]

you know what if u hungry its fine xD every pancake is fine

hahah

they all taste great if people are hungry

[frosty sinew]

ok

5800x are going for like 240 cad used

[wary fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLd00Bx4tOk try this @hollow barn

[hollow barn]

Like I just put the stuff in and checked the consistency

[frosty sinew]

i stg im about to just by a 5800x3d off newewgg for 400

[hollow barn]

No offense, but I fancy being able to live modify the recipe

[frosty sinew]

or do i get a 5700x3d

idk

[hollow barn]

Man, with just a little Nutella the pancakes taste great

[wary fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2AYFpYn8ws
deym this is thiccer xD

[wary fjord]

never had nuttela before it just taste chocolate?

[wary fjord]

any wont matter imo xD the difference is like few fps

like +10 fps maybe

[hollow barn]

Somewhat...

But the off brand ones may be better

Of brand

Not beans, brand

[frosty sinew]

I don't just game

Like cad work

Which iirc wants clocks

Do I pay 100$ for extra 400mhz

[wary fjord]

why buy x3d then

[wind quail]

400mhz isnt worth 100$

[wary fjord]

get 5950x

[wind quail]

maybe they dont have that kind of money lol

[wary fjord]

ur gpu will handle render anyway

• u get more cores and threads for other workload

[frosty sinew]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

P sure my board don't like that

[hollow barn]

Should I send the recipe to schools?

[frosty sinew]

I have a single 120mm tower cooler and a b450 board

5800x3d is the top of what I can get for drop in

[wary fjord]

trust me x3d is hotter

than non x3d

xD

[frosty sinew]

Than a 5950x?

[wary fjord]

arent both 105

yeah x3d will still be hotter

than non x3d

[frosty sinew]

Wait wtf

Oh but that's without pbo

[frosty sinew]

Non x3d what

[wary fjord]

thats why oc on those thing are very limited

[frosty sinew]

5800 or 5950

[wary fjord]

its sensitive

[wary fjord]

5950

[frosty sinew]

Hotter = more power doesn't it

[hollow barn]

because I have to weigh the ingredients then.

[frosty sinew]

Or just worse cooling

I'm power and cooling constrained

[wary fjord]

it depends on factor but x3d is a hot chip

5950x = 363 usd

[frosty sinew]

Apparently I can run a 5900x but without pbo

So why bother

[wary fjord]

good for workload work stuff

[wind quail]

which one exactly?

afaik 5700x3d is less hot but 5800x3d is extremly hot ye

[frosty sinew]

Deepcool gt cooler and b450 aorus elite v2

[wary fjord]

ubuying 400 usd for x3d over this xD

[frosty sinew]

Why is that? Bad ihs contact?

[wind quail]

ah id say that board can handle a 5900x or 5950x yea

[wary fjord]

if u not playing anyway

[frosty sinew]

I was talking cad

[frosty sinew]

I game a bit

[wary fjord]

yeah dont get x3d if u not playing

[frosty sinew]

Really?

[wary fjord]

the 5800x3d is pricer than 5950x

[wind quail]

because it was amd's first time adding the vcache they had thermal troubles with that

[frosty sinew]

Alright

So I'm bidding on some 5800xs rn for around 200cad

[wind quail]

yeah the aorus boards are usually decent

[frosty sinew]

5900 vs 5950 what's the diff

[mortal grail]

The v1 is terrible if you look it up lol

[frosty sinew]

What about my cooler

[wind quail]

12 cores vs 16

[wary fjord]

even a320 can run 5950x but doenst mean u should but some people do it anyway xd

[frosty sinew]

Oh right

[wind quail]

ah v2 is much better tho isnt it?

[mortal grail]

Yes

[frosty sinew]

But with pbo?

[wind quail]

some a520s

[mortal grail]

Like a brand new woman

[frosty sinew]

I have good airflow over vrms as well

[mortal grail]

Gaming right

[wind quail]

youd want a new cooler like this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3

[frosty sinew]

25% gaming 50% cad 25% others

[wind quail]

AND CAD

woops

[mortal grail]

Hmm

[frosty sinew]

Cad needs singlecore high clocks too iirc

[mortal grail]

AND CAD... I could go either way

But x3d would be fine

[frosty sinew]

But it's hot and expensive and only benefits gaming

[mortal grail]

As long as the geometries or assemblies aren't insane

[wary fjord]

tldr

x3d = hot

[mortal grail]

It's still a 5800x

[wary fjord]

x3d = gaming

[frosty sinew]

5800x is wayyyy cheaper

Than x3d

Like 200 bucks

[mortal grail]

5800x is uber strong regardless

[wary fjord]

yes

even cheaper

in asia

150 bucks

for 5800x

[mortal grail]

200 less is worth imo

[wind quail]

also look for the 5700x

[mortal grail]

But if you go that route

Don't go x3d later

[frosty sinew]

It's 8+2 phase

[frosty sinew]

It's just clocked lower?

[mortal grail]

5800x/x3d should be the last cpu you do in that mobo

[wind quail]

a lil bit yeah

[mortal grail]

Whichever one you pick

[wind quail]

much cooler too iirc

[frosty sinew]

Yeah

[mortal grail]

Don't get the x3d later

[frosty sinew]

Ok

I've been running a 3600 for years so

[mortal grail]

After this cpu, go am5 or intel

[frosty sinew]

One last upgrade

[wary fjord]

5700x3d and 5800x3d is like 2-5 fps diff xD

but 5800 has higher clock

[mortal grail]

Clock on ryzen means almost nothing

[wary fjord]

bigger number ❤️

xD

[frosty sinew]

Helps for single core

[mortal grail]

Pbo clock gains are like 1% at most

[wary fjord]

i might go 5950x on my last cpu upgrade

[mortal grail]

It inflates and exaggerates numbers but real world gains are almost non existent

Curve optimiser does way more, and likewise ram tuning

Radeon is the same way, it scales with vram, but barely with clock

[frosty sinew]

Bruh I could buy a 5900x right now on ebay for 315 cad

Like 60 bucks more than 5800x

[mortal grail]

How complex is the cad work you're doing rn tho

[frosty sinew]

Minor assemblies, can get a little slow

[mortal grail]

Describe the assemblies

I use cad

[frosty sinew]

A bench grinder from harbor freight

[mortal grail]

I need a feel for the geometry

[frosty sinew]

20- 30 parts

[mortal grail]

How much ram you packing

[frosty sinew]

32gb ddr4 3200

[mortal grail]

Never gets more than 30?

[frosty sinew]

Ye

[mortal grail]

I could still swing either way there

You'd need a new cooler for 5900x as well

[frosty sinew]

Ah crap

Was trying to avoid that

[mortal grail]

5700x/5700x3d/5800x3d

You can run on a single tower

[frosty sinew]

It claims 180w

[mortal grail]

5800x...eco mode but that's basically a 5700x

[frosty sinew]

Although I doubbbbbt that

[mortal grail]

They say a lot of things

And often that number is intel not amd

[wary fjord]

wraith prism can handle this cpu peak at 74c

[mortal grail]

Amd doesn't calculate power the same way

[wary fjord]

is his cooler not as good as wrait prism?

i dont know what his cooler is

xd

[mortal grail]

I'd like to see that because my 5900x on a loop and on 2 360 aios couldn't achieve that

[frosty sinew]

Cheap deepcool one

[mortal grail]

I'd believe 5900x in eco mode

But that's a pretty nerfed chip

[frosty sinew]

Why even buy a 5900x then

[wary fjord]

well it depends on the software on aida it goes 86c xD

also i dont think u gonna stress that cpu in cad

[mortal grail]

You can

[wary fjord]

really?

[mortal grail]

Absolutely you can

Yes

[wary fjord]

arent it 3d stuff

gpu likes to handle those

[mortal grail]

CAD can be worse than a lot of programs out there

It depends on the complexity of the workspace

But there's a big reason why engineers use stupid strong systems with stuff like threadrippers and half a terabyte in ram lololol

[wary fjord]

so they can play games and render in the same time?

[mortal grail]

Depending on the work yeah

If you're doing fluid simulations with a complex shape you really do need the cpu power

[wary fjord]

does cad have nvidia plugin on it

[mortal grail]

The same with a lot of things tbh

[wary fjord]

for simulation xD

maybe that ease it

[mortal grail]

If you just have a huge build up of active work it gets more difficult in most things

[mortal grail]

Depends on the program lol

Typically like creo though, radeon is faster

[wary fjord]

like GPU-Accelerated Simulations

[wary fjord]

amd amd

yeah

[frosty sinew]

ok so 5700x3d is 299 new and 5800x is 240 used

[mortal grail]

Comparing new to used it's obvious which will win lol

[frosty sinew]

ok its 250 new

so 5800x it is

[dusk knot]

My 5800x3d bottlenecks my 3080 TI by 22% at 1440p. feels bad

[mortal grail]

Alr, just use it in eco mode tho

[wary fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_fUZPS_kto found a video that might help him to pick a cooler

[mortal grail]

Did you just use a calculator

[wary fjord]

the wrait version

90c xD

prism 79c not bad

this is awesome 74c

[frosty sinew]

hm why

[wary fjord]

how did u get 22%

[mortal grail]

You'll want a new cooler if you touch pbo

Even then it's touch and go on a single tower

[frosty sinew]

at 105w?

[mortal grail]

X3d pulls less power despite being hotter

[wary fjord]

and its sensitive to overclock

[frosty sinew]

i means

[mortal grail]

Pretty inclined that way ngl, with all the 5800x people in the server

[frosty sinew]

that vid just said a wraith handles 5950x

[wary fjord]

yes 90c u want that?

[frosty sinew]

so ill get a 5800x and see about the cooler

cant hurt to test it

[mortal grail]

Handling and using the full potential are two different things

[wary fjord]

prism does abit good than wrait

[mortal grail]

Amd will sit on the throttle at 10 watts if it needs to

[wary fjord]

79 vs 90

[frosty sinew]

hyper 212 76c

4.3 ghz

[mortal grail]

The wraith immediately throttled with the 5800x lol

Stuck at 91 on aida

I've typed every sentence in the last 5 minutes 3 times

[wary fjord]

that number depends still on your ambient xD

[mortal grail]

My keyboard is freaking out

[frosty sinew]

15c

jk

[frosty sinew]

lol

ok so ill get 5800x and then see, if i (likely) do need a new cooler

[wary fjord]

yeah xD i wonder if he enable turbo on prism lol

maybe he can get even lower

maybe

[frosty sinew]

this should be good

[wary fjord]

the hell is that

xD

[frosty sinew]

an absolute beast

[wary fjord]

that looks like something u get from temu

[frosty sinew]

its argb

[wary fjord]

get LT720 👿

jk let me know if ur cooler can cool it

[cedar compass]

I saw prebuild that have 12900k and this cooler on it

[frosty sinew]

If I remember

[frosty sinew]

💀

[mortal grail]

@wispy knot tell dis lad about the 5800x thermals

Response may happen now, or later lol

[dusk knot]

Some website that I forgot about

[dusk knot]

Some website..I forgot

[wary fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgF6ik1_qBQ

deym

[wary fjord]

dont tell me its bottleneck calculator

😦

[dusk knot]

Don't trust them?

I would take that as a yes

😬

[tranquil pebble]

Bottlenecks depend on too many factors to be simply calculated that way

The exact game being played makes a difference too

[dusk knot]

Right right

[tranquil pebble]

updating the BIOS on my ROG Ally rn

[dusk knot]

Another one? ):

[icy ore]

https://fxtwitter.com/TerminX13/status/1788789298730242527?t=lb8wZmxuKVAjDn8y9aM1hA&s=19

[craggy shoal]

good morning

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/IKkJK9sY9_M?si=xLGMlhG7dRFPuU35

[tranquil pebble]

GMod after a few hours uptime be like

[craggy shoal]

why does YouTube do this 😐

I have to use Brave to watch videos now

[tranquil pebble]

Yeah, second Ally since first broke but I'm protecting this one with a much better bag

Persona 5 Royal's special edition came with this bag lol

so in a way it's protected by one the main games I play on it

[north crescent]

They can't even have it working nicely on chrome. It prolly won't be working nicely anywhere else.

[hollow barn]

i'm using a Gaming laptop rn

[ancient swift]

Wait your ally broke?

[tranquil pebble]

first one did from drop yes

the bag I use now will simply not let it drop at all

[ancient swift]

Dang, sorry to hear that

[wispy knot]

Yes, you will. Until I undervolted mine it was instantly hitting 90C with 4 core loads on a 240mm AIO.
The 5800X is the second hottest chip on AM4, after the 5800X3D.

[frosty sinew]

Your telling me a 5900x is cooler?

[wispy knot]

Yes

[ancient swift]

It's actually crazy how much heat the 5800x has

[frosty sinew]

Welp

Is it power draw or hotspot

I'm assuming it's the ladder

[wispy knot]

It's more watts per core so the entire CCX runs hotter

[frosty sinew]

So I should get a 5900x then

[wispy knot]

Not for gaming

[frosty sinew]

That has a better chance of running on my cooler

[ancient swift]

My 5950x is cooler than my 5800x and my 5800x has an airflow case while my 5950x is in a case with raised glass panels on 4 sides

[frosty sinew]

Not just gaming I do

[ancient swift]

5800x, 5900x, and 5950x are all within 1% of each other for gaming

[frosty sinew]

It's like 60 cad more

315 vs 250 cad

5950x is up at like 450

And I've been told x3ds are worse

So those are out

For thermals

[ancient swift]

5000 series is a really weird one cause of how close they are compared to Ryzen 3000 and 7000

[frosty sinew]

This will be my last am4 update

[wispy knot]

Only the 5800X3D, the 5700X3D and 5600X3D are fine

[ancient swift]

Could go with the 5700x3d

[frosty sinew]

I was told they run spicy

And only help with gaming

[frosty sinew]

I was told they arent

[ancient swift]

That part is sorta true yeah. What do you do besides gaming?

[frosty sinew]

Cad work

[ancient swift]

Isn't cad single core?

[frosty sinew]

Some video editing etc

[frosty sinew]

Mostly