general-chat

[elfin mural]

Especially if it's igzo

2015 design mind you

[rancid juniper]

damn almost a decade old

💀

[elfin mural]

i wouldn't even blame it

it's that old

[mortal grail]

You merely ribbited the darkness

I was born with it

Molded by it

I didn't see the light until I was but a tadpole

[rancid juniper]

crazy to think that the latest zelda title can run on that toaster

but then i realized that first party nintendo games always have crazy optimization

no matter what

[wary fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxlxdVVPFRE

u can make a pad thinner?

using that tool?

xD

he has tool to shrink down any pad xD

[mortal grail]

Honey I shrunk the kids moment

[wary fjord]

he even has this tool

to check gpu signals xD

so fancy xD

he found one missing signal responsible for it being running at x8 instead of x16

this is so cool xD

[craggy shoal]

goober in the vc (he left)

[sinful blade]

Dude wants $60 for it

[craggy shoal]

ooooh yummy. I like the look of old and heavily dated hardware

XP era (I think?)

A lot of people here would say it isn't worth it, but imo there's a market for retro hardware for people who like playing with older hardware

[sinful blade]

ASUS P5LD2 LGA 775 Intel 945P ATX Intel Motherboard

This still sells for like $50

[craggy shoal]

Core 2 era

[sinful blade]

Labeled as vintage now

[craggy shoal]

bruh 2000s is vintage 😭

[sinful blade]

I can’t seem to find that gpu.

[craggy shoal]

it's an ATI GPU

(Basically, AMD bought out ATI)

[sinful blade]

?

[craggy shoal]

idk lol

can't see anything in the images

[sinful blade]

That seems to be it

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156074677494

https://www.ebay.com/itm/395363813060?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=mpk5gc5-ttm&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=rej26bxrr_g&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Just makes me wanna buy old pc stuff and just donate it

[craggy shoal]

You could get much better than that for $70

What is a 4770 doing with 32GB of memory 💀

[sinful blade]

Like make it able to run basic games. Get a bunch of 4gb gpus, old amd/intel CPUs, slap 8GB of ram in with a 450w PSU and 512gb storage.

Just cheap, non proprietary parts, for people to be able to upgrade.

[craggy shoal]

How "basic" of games would these be running?

There's not much of an upgrade path on these computers

Heck I've even killed a motherboard by putting an RX 480 on a motherboard that only has PCIe 2.0

[sinful blade]

I mean like, could find the cheapest modern mb, buy a lot or two of them, buy some gpus like these https://www.ebay.com/itm/235390323017?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FI4t8-BaSXC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=rej26bxrr_g&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Make em be able to run games like fallout nv or fortnite or something.

I wanna do good in the pc space
Make gaming affordable and easy for people.

I wonder if I can offer $1

[craggy shoal]

You think it's a good idea until you advertise the computers as "gaming capable" and then they try to run something as simple as Minecraft (CPU-intensive, especially these days). You'll have people come back and be like "wtf I paid $100 for this thing" (let's just say this is the lowest you'd go)
You'd probably regret it after paying for shipping the parts that would probably cost close to ~$80 plus the whatever amount for shipping, all for a small margin of profit

Just not worth it without the proper insanity

[sinful blade]

Maybe I’ll just donate pcs then

I live in a very poor town
I am middle class

[craggy shoal]

But let's say it would work. You could make this become a business. However, your demand will outgrow what your (I'd image maybe a shop full of) workers can handle, making you drive prices up a couple hundred dollars per system

[sinful blade]

Maybe I can find a way to set up a donation area for people who want to get rid of old computers and laptops
Clean them up, swap some parts, and then donate them?

[craggy shoal]

I mean unless you're trying to supply your town

By all means then you're doing your town a whole service

[sinful blade]

There’s a lot of people who sell pcs because “they’re no longer gaming” or “went to college” and other stuff.
Those people could donate, I could have a few knowledgeable people clean and replace/swap broken parts, and then donate them to people less fortunate.

[worthy meteor]

Most of the time they'll try to sell and get some of their money back

[mortal grail]

https://youtube.com/shorts/YHlLYFbksRY?si=mIvh9PRmp5R8y57g

[craggy shoal]

Yeah exactly this. I bought a bike off of a friend recently because he discovered that he's not really into mountain biking. It's a ~$3200 bike (bought it off of him for like $1800, including some gear). Sure, PCs are maybe like half that price these days, but I wouldn't want to give something away that's around $1500 either if I decided that I don't have the time for it or if I'm just uninterested

[sinful blade]

Im sending a message to my local community event leader to see if I can get the funding/space to do a mass donation area one of these days.

Message sent

[craggy shoal]

I know I've been trying to convince you to not go through with this, but good luck bro

[sinful blade]

I am stubborn

I play destiny 2

It might actually turn into an ewaste donation drive.

Safely dispose of the unfixable

[velvet summit]

my tax has been filed

[craggy shoal]

bruh that should've been done like last week 💀 (unless you're not in America. idk. America is the only place in the world and I assume everybody lives here)

[icy ore]

true true

[velvet summit]

Lmao

It's due on the 30th here

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah you weirdos do that half of the year

[craggy shoal]

all-year-round because the amount of tax we pay on items as well as the tax of our income isn't enough somehow

tax day is Christmas for our politicians lol

[proud jackal]

GTA V IRL

[elfin mural]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/25/24140168/wacom-movink-13-oled-drawing-tablet-price-announcement

even drawing tablets are using oled now

[pliant berry]

yeah that tablet looks really sleek

probably nice for travel

[mortal grail]

Imagine getting burn in on that

It would be a nightmare

[elfin mural]

ya

apparently lcd ones are known for heat issues

[pliant berry]

I can imagine. some of their screen tablets are all in one pcs

[icy ore]

[abstract pollen]

am buying a new pc for my friend and am woundring if you can see the parts too tell me if its dcent ??

MSI Pro B650M-A WiFi DDR5 AM5 Micro-ATX - Motherboard

AMD RYZEN 5 7600X

KINSGTON FURY BEAST RGB DDR5 6000MHz 32GB (2x16GB)

[elfin mural]

and cpu going kaput over time

[languid drum]

Better then steam deck I think or similar should run 1080p well some 1440p for games as well.

[elfin mural]

well

it should handle any gpus rn

7600/x matches 5800x3d so

[languid drum]

The 3d chips great for vr games or streaming to headset.

[elfin mural]

those tasks are where the gpu takes care of anyway

[proud jackal]

Mine was slow explode

[mental yoke]

Hi noobs

[young matrix]

Streaming is usually handled by gpu

[dusk knot]

Soo...uugh

Nvm

[icy obsidian]

should i be worried that my phone was in the ocean for a while? my phones ip68 and i washed it under tap water

[dusk knot]

More than 30 mins?

[icy obsidian]

yes, but it was in a semi waterproof bag so it didnt get submerged just wet. im mostly worried about the salt water

[elfin mural]

I'd clean the port with ipa

[dusk knot]

Sea salt is really bad

[elfin mural]

Try to get rid of any salt just in case

Corrosion sucks

[icy obsidian]

isopropyl alcohol?

[elfin mural]

yes

[icy obsidian]

alright. should i shut it down for a while after cleaning for it to evaporate?

[elfin mural]

Yep it's good to do that

[icy obsidian]

alright thanks

[elfin mural]

And wipe down the sides and back of the phone to be safe

Some salt might stick to it

[idle nexus]

I'm almost finished installing win11, drivers, etc. then I'll install ubuntu so we can finally do this lol

(on 5900x hopefully-soon-to-be MC server)

[dusk trail]

what a great alternate route

yes please, take me off the highway so i can get right back on at the next exit

[mortal grail]

Scenic route my boy

[elfin mural]

waste gas route

[idle nexus]

ehh bypass an accident or traffic ig?

[elfin mural]

fair observation

[cedar compass]

Waze be like

[sinful blade]

HEY

THATS LIKE AN HOUR OR TWO FROM ME

That’s outside Scranton

[dusk trail]

it is

this is like, halfway through my trip lol

basically sitting on 81 the whole time

[dusk trail]

usually they put accident markers on the map to let you know

[sinful blade]

Ah, I’m down 180 a bit off your trip

https://item.mercari.com/gl/m24304672051?sv=0 @mortal grail

For your coarse hairs

[mortal grail]

[sinful blade]

https://item.mercari.com/gl/m10199524164?sv=0

Montech sky one lite

[granite estuary]

How difficult would it be to get a mini itx case and a new mobo and then move my current build into a mini itx

And ensure my gpu fits

Actually disregard this what is a good replacement m2 for a teamgroup mp33 2280

[mortal grail]

Hm

Another

Mp33 2280

Unfortunately

💀

They're still kinda great

[viral heron]

Are mouse pads/mats actually good

I've never used one

I just have my mouse on my desk

[mortal grail]

Absolutely worth it with a good one

I used to think the same until I changed to it

Get a really nice cheap one at first

Like a QcK

And see how you feel about it

They can be as cheap as like $5

It improves your accuracy too

[young matrix]

Use pcpartpicker to check

[viral heron]

Ight. I feel like I'd need a massive one tho

Cuz I aim with my arm

[young matrix]

Yes

[viral heron]

And play on low sens

[mental yoke]

they feel nice and silky smooth on your palms if you get a good one

[mortal grail]

Might do, try one cheap first before you commit

[young matrix]

@random osprey is the go to guy

Personally i use an agile co. deskmat

[mortal grail]

I have glorious mats

[mental yoke]

i have to throw away mousepad after mouse pad because i smoke at my desk

[mortal grail]

I still like them too

They are as good as they were over a year ago when I got them

Just dusty

[viral heron]

I destroyed my old pc from vaping lol

It all got sucked into the pc and stuck to everything

[mortal grail]

Every mouse pad will have different feel to it too, some are easy to glide over, some are quite sticky and help you make fine control

[mental yoke]

oh jeez was your pc above you?

[viral heron]

Nah it was under the desk

I just vaped a ton and never cleaned it for like a couple years

[mental yoke]

😮

[viral heron]

I don't Anymore tho

[mental yoke]

you mjust have been blowing huge clouds

[granite estuary]

Truth

Forgot about that

Mb

[mortal grail]

CH160 just dropped and looks pretty amazing

(ITX case)

[granite estuary]

I don’t have much space and I have micro atx currently but I love mini itx and idk

Potentially

[mortal grail]

(cheap)

[granite estuary]

We shall see

[mortal grail]

(fits itx things)

[granite estuary]

Oh damn that case looks really good

[mortal grail]

(the size of a shoebox)

($70)

[granite estuary]

If the fractal design one that has wood on it wasn’t so overpriced it I’d get that

[mortal grail]

(Wood gets pretty expensive yeah)

[granite estuary]

Definitely gonna need a new cpu cooler

[mortal grail]

(the ch160 fits up to like 148mm)

[granite estuary]

My 240mm aio definitely won’t fit in mini itx lol

[mortal grail]

(ah)

[granite estuary]

(Yes)

[mortal grail]

(what about the jonsbo z20)

(it fits anything that isn't a huge aio or atx motherboard)

[granite estuary]

Ooo

I really like that

[velvet summit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/809840106478502011/1233515000086134804/20240426_000657.jpg?ex=662d5fdd&is=662c0e5d&hm=a90e1c59256a3d3abe3c113ff4b2d49b66d557c9464a8cb52e7da7d591e0d211&

[mortal grail]

(mechanic master 21L is pretty similar)

[granite estuary]

Genuine question why does nzxt classify their smallest case as mini itx

[mortal grail]

(sama im01 or im01 pro are a bit sizeable but compact as well)

[velvet summit]

That's the standard

[mortal grail]

I have no idea

[granite estuary]

H510 I think it id

[velvet summit]

Oh

[mortal grail]

Their idea of itx is suffocation anyway

[velvet summit]

That isn't a itx

[mortal grail]

Also yeah that's atx

[granite estuary]

It’s classified as mini itx lol

[mortal grail]

Lol

[granite estuary]

Is it

[mortal grail]

H210i is small

[granite estuary]

That ine

Yes

[mortal grail]

But again, suffocating

It's terrible

[granite estuary]

Still seems big for a mini itx

[mortal grail]

It is

It follows a standard design

[granite estuary]

I want my components to suffocate

[mortal grail]

More modern itx use sandwish or stacked designs

H210i is like half a decade old by now

Oh another case

Cooler master ncore 100 max

Expensive tho

But comes with psu and cooler

[granite estuary]

Ah the dreaded I will need to buy another psu

[mortal grail]

Z20 you should need to change anything if you have an matx board and a PSU that's 140mm

It genuinely fits a full size pc

[granite estuary]

It’s mini itx but fits micro atx board?

[mortal grail]

And it's smaller than a lot of itx

Yes

[granite estuary]

That’s weird lol

[velvet summit]

Not really

[mortal grail]

It's smaller than an nr200p

[granite estuary]

Would it be smaller than my current case

Ihhh

[mortal grail]

It's just good design

[granite estuary]

Asia

Asus

Whoops

[mortal grail]

Asus...?

[granite estuary]

One sec

[velvet summit]

Ah yes

The classic caze

The asus

[mortal grail]

A sus

[granite estuary]

AP201

[mortal grail]

Yes

Good 30% less desk space used

[velvet summit]

Damn that's like a tp link name

[granite estuary]

I have a TP link portable router

[mortal grail]

Why do I know this? I actually worked it out considering the two myself

[granite estuary]

Oh damn

That’s a lot of space saved

Well maintaining a majority of the same components

[mortal grail]

It doesn't get smaller without spending big

Z20 is about as small as atx goes pretty much

[granite estuary]

Yeah itx is expensive which is unfortunate because I think they look the best compared to all other form factors

[mortal grail]

Zzaw c1+ afaik is basically the only thing smaller but you need to use superbuy

[granite estuary]

Superbug?

Buy*

[mortal grail]

Superbuy yeah

[granite estuary]

Never heard of it

[mortal grail]

It's an agent for buying from china

[granite estuary]

Ah

Like Ali express

[mortal grail]

C1+ is asia exclusive

Aliexpress works but you pay a fair bit more

[granite estuary]

Z20 looks good

[mortal grail]

Ye measure everything up before you buy first

[granite estuary]

Ye

[velvet summit]

AliExpress is a marketplace, it's a bit different afaik

[granite estuary]

Oh mb

Sorry

[mortal grail]

It's good but you need to meet a few compatibility checks

[granite estuary]

Psu, aio?

[mortal grail]

140mm psu for example is strict

[granite estuary]

Wtf

That’s sick

[wary fjord]

Sleep

[velvet summit]

Star wars shaver

[wary fjord]

XD

[mortal grail]

Just use a stormtrooper blaster

[granite estuary]

Well according to pcpsrtpicker of the parts I have picked my psu is 140mm

[mortal grail]

Is your board matx

[granite estuary]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rvLN9c

Yep

[mortal grail]

Then there's a good chance it all fits

[granite estuary]

My card is 303mm tho

[velvet summit]

Safety razor supremacy

[mortal grail]

303mm is fine

The case takes up to like 360mm

[granite estuary]

I just used one of these

[viral heron]

Bruh I just tabbed out and my pc dropped to 2 fps for a solid 3 minutes 😭 this so annoying

[granite estuary]

Cut myself 8 times

[mortal grail]

Or something ridiculous

[granite estuary]

Not sure how

Jesus

360

Is it a long case?

Because I know my AP201 is a pretty long case

[mortal grail]

Can you change to like windowed fullscreen or something

[velvet summit]

Did you not pull it straight and went diagonally or whatever

[granite estuary]

Probably

[mortal grail]

It's significantly shorter than ap201

[granite estuary]

I don’t have steady hands

[velvet summit]

It's not easy to cut yourself accidentally with a safety razor if you're using it right

[mortal grail]

Anyway ima dip

[granite estuary]

Last week I fully pulled it across my face by accident and cut myself like 4 inches long

[velvet summit]

The only exception is if you're not pulling it straight

[mortal grail]

[granite estuary]

Thank you for the help

[velvet summit]

Or using too much pressure

[viral heron]

That's what I play on.

[pliant berry]

reminds me of the time my sister nearly cut off her finger

[granite estuary]

A lot of the time it’s just cutting off a pimple or something lol

[viral heron]

Anything else is wack for me

[granite estuary]

Jesus

[idle nexus]

so I installed Ubuntu server... eh apparently it's just command line?

[velvet summit]

Ah

Yeah that could happen in that case

[idle nexus]

I have no idea what's going on lol

[granite estuary]

I don’t get pimples often but yeah you go over them with it it’ll take them off 😂

[pliant berry]

yeah ubuntu LTS is cli

[velvet summit]

It's Ubuntu server because it's cli

You don't want gui on a server

[idle nexus]

I do if I have any hope of using it lmao

[velvet summit]

Waste of resources and more area of attack from a security standpoint

[pliant berry]

what are you trying to do with the system?

[velvet summit]

You could retroactively install a gui or install the desktop version

[idle nexus]

make MC server

[pliant berry]

oh easy you don't need gui for that. you can even run MC servers in docker containers

[granite estuary]

Okay one more question, I clip some of the stuff I do in my games using medal, and when I go full screen it like stutters a bunch but not full screen it is fine

[idle nexus]

sudo apt install [what now?]

[granite estuary]

Have you guys ever had someone come into the server asking for help and their pc is overheating just for them to find out they left the plastic piece on the cpu cooler copper

[velvet summit]

Apt is a package manager

[idle nexus]

ya that happens for sure lol

sudo install then?

[velvet summit]

No, you're right

[idle nexus]

I even bought "Ubuntu for Dummies"

[velvet summit]

You put the package name

[idle nexus]

got nowhere with it obv

[velvet summit]

So like Sudo apt install vim

[pliant berry]

this is the mc server manager I use

[velvet summit]

Or Sudo apt install apache2

[idle nexus]

on Win11?

[velvet summit]

Or whatever

[granite estuary]

Is this to host off your own pc or hosting service

[idle nexus]

it says step 1 is install proprietary graphics driver

I did that during initial install

[pliant berry]

self hosted

[granite estuary]

I want that

[idle nexus]

so step two choose & install a java runtime...?

[granite estuary]

How do I get that fancy looking stuff

I self host aswell but mine is just a console lol

[idle nexus]

gonna do this lol

[velvet summit]

Yeah Mc server doesn't come with jaba

Java

[pliant berry]

that is crafty-controller running in docker

[granite estuary]

Ah

[pliant berry]

https://i.imgur.com/n2QlE8o.png

that's the image for it

[idle nexus]

oh snap it's doing stuff

[granite estuary]

Very cool

[idle nexus]

successfully added repo I think

is sudo apt-get update the same command as sudo apt update?

[velvet summit]

Yes

[idle nexus]

2 packages can be upgraded

okay maybe we'll see

[velvet summit]

Sudo apt upgrade

[granite estuary]

My buddy bought a 4070 but is running a intel i3 8600 or something

He’s cooked

[velvet summit]

Well, normally on a production environment you probably want to test to make sure that updating packages won't break your system

/software

[pliant berry]

ehh this ain't production, go ham

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[idle nexus]

why is discord so hopelessly broken on mobile? heck

[velvet summit]

Test on prod

[idle nexus]

it keeps telling me this & I'm just like... oh that's very sad uh what do I do exactly?

well it's told me twice

that is one heckin pink screen lol

I'll just tell it to restart all of em why not

[swift sable]

real

[idle nexus]

nvm ig I told it to restart none of them

[swift sable]

actual skill issue

[pliant berry]

sure, you don't really have anything running on it rn

space bar to select

[idle nexus]

ah okay

[pliant berry]

at least I think xD

[idle nexus]

pro tip: enter doesn't work lmao

[granite estuary]

Actually true

Spitting facts

[velvet summit]

Space to select, arrow to nav, enter to confirm

Most TUIs are like this

[pliant berry]

man I haven't fiddled with servers in a bit. something must be broken on em

[granite estuary]

I couldn’t even install the server packs for half the servers I was trying to host lmao

[pliant berry]

server hosting can be pain sometimes

[idle nexus]

heck sudo snap install mc-launcher didn't work

[pliant berry]

lol

[idle nexus]

well uh

can I like install GNOME or something so this is a little easier? lmao

[wary fjord]

Bruh

U still not done

[idle nexus]

oh there's Tomie

[viral heron]

@mortal grail

[idle nexus]

how the heck do parsec thru command line? lmao

[idle nexus]

should I install regular ubuntu lmao

[wary fjord]

Yes

[idle nexus]

okay gonna do that now heck this

hold on I could uh

[wary fjord]

No no no

We gonna install a web for it

To handle multiple Minecraft server

[idle nexus]

I'm in VC

[wary fjord]

And for you to be safe.. because its jailed

[idle nexus]

but I can't figure out how to flip video lmao

wait jk I can't figure out how to mirror video

to be technically correct ig

[pliant berry]

Ssh

[abstract pollen]

7800x3d vs 7600x which one should i get the first is a am4 socket and the other is am5

[mighty hazel]

They’re both am5

[wary fjord]

god damn some places has it 51c

hahaha

omg

they ocing the temp there

[weak cedar]

You can cook outside without a fire

[wary fjord]

thats gonna shrink

xD

[viral heron]

I did a system scan and windows found corrupt files and repaired them

Could that have been causing my alt tab fps issue?

I think it was one drive? Idk if I'm reading this log correctly

[dusk knot]

They look ready. Eat them

[velvet summit]

snap isnt included by default in ubuntu lmao

also why are you trying to get the mincraft launcher

you want the mincraft server jar

paper might be better since that can have plugins

or fabric or forge

https://youtu.be/h6zt8KeXFdA

[tranquil pebble]

rip to anyone without AC in those temps

[wary fjord]

yeah wall and bed is hot

the water in sink is hot

[wary fjord]

we use purpur have u heard of it

[velvet summit]

uhhhhhh

[wary fjord]

its a paper on drugs

xD

[velvet summit]

ah a fork of paper

[wary fjord]

yeah u can make all animals ridable there if u want to u can set how long something something like its highy customizable

and it has like benchmark and performance analyzer

it shows u how much plugins eats

in ram

and their usage

so u can see who choke ur server

[velvet summit]

You could get plugins for those

Though it's easier if it's built in

[mental yoke]

https://youtu.be/g0VkODu7S5A?si=lSXbcPLYCow6wUbw

Arc A750???

[sinful blade]

Intel cards are getting up there

Shockingly

[dusk knot]

NgreedAI will have real competition soon

[dusk knot]

Looks solid

[mental yoke]

Can’t complain tbh

Just watched the full thing

It’s pretty decent for the price

[velvet summit]

I'm gonna complain

[mental yoke]

And the performance is top tier for $600.

[velvet summit]

Ew RGB fans

[mental yoke]

You complain about everything.

[velvet summit]

I try my best

[mental yoke]

Where ya at?

[misty sparrow]

I’m complaining about you complaining about him complaining

[mental yoke]

Well I’m complaining about you complaining about him complaining about complaining 💀

Keep it going >

I swear if someone ruins it.

[wary fjord]

thats gta v

place

[velvet summit]

[wary fjord]

or 4

[mental yoke]

5*

V*

[velvet summit]

GTA 6

[mental yoke]

7

GTA 7.

[velvet summit]

8

[velvet summit]

10

[mental yoke]

11

[velvet summit]

12

[mental yoke]

13

[misty sparrow]

13

[mighty hazel]

14

[misty sparrow]

you messed it up xern

[mental yoke]

i said 13 first

Restart

[mighty hazel]

2

[velvet summit]

Damn there was GTA 13 part 1 and GTA 13 part 2

Must have been a big game

[mental yoke]

5

[misty sparrow]

6

[wary fjord]

future gta will be in neuro link

[misty sparrow]

8

[mental yoke]

9

[velvet summit]

X

[misty sparrow]

XI

[velvet summit]

XII

[wary fjord]

yall know your roman numerals ?

[mental yoke]

Yeah..?

[misty sparrow]

XIII

[mental yoke]

XIIII

[velvet summit]

XV

[mental yoke]

XVI

[misty sparrow]

No it’s XIV

[mental yoke]

Wait

Oops

Accidentally did that

[mental yoke]

IM SLOW OK

[wary fjord]

help xD

[mental yoke]

JESUS

[misty sparrow]

Clearly you haven’t watched any Rocky films

[misty sparrow]

Oh you want us to solve all the problems? I’ll just do 1-12

[velvet summit]

1. X+V
2. V+V
3. XX+V?
   I'm second guessing myself because this seems a bit too easy lmao

Also typing this on mobile is a mild pain

[misty sparrow]

1. V
2. V
3. V
4. X
5. V
6. V ?
7. V again
8. III
9. V again
10. XI ?
11. II
12. V yet again

Most of these addition answers are V (which is 5), good lord

13. V
14. V
15. V
16. IV
17. XIII ?
18. III
19. XII
20. XII
21. XIV ?
22. X
23. IX
24. XXVII ?

[tranquil pebble]

for about 0.1 seconds I thought someone spammed

[velvet summit]

nah just simple arithmetics

[chrome mirage]

I ordered some music from Warner Music and it's been two weeks and still no tracking number.

[tranquil pebble]

found a funny way to kill enemies in Saints Row IV... kick them into the air then shoot them in midair

they'd still die when they hit the ground but that kills them before they even get that chance lol

[dusk knot]

I'm basically a pro when it comes to Roman numerals

Almost

MMXXIV for this year

It's ez

@misty sparrow you got all of the right 👍

[tranquil pebble]

Arabic numerals ftw

about the only thing most of the world actually agrees on lol

look at this rare Activision based moment... allowing to not download unnecessary high resolution textures

[dusk knot]

Y

[tranquil pebble]

and I didnt buy Diablo, its on gamepass so I'll at least try it

[dusk knot]

Ah

Also

https://youtu.be/51FDb9nShkA?si=09zXSzzLG4U-xN4g. The future looks very bad.

It's going to be so much misinformation that the internet will not be safe for no one

[velvet summit]

it's not like the internet wasnt full of so much misinformation that it isnt safe for most people prior

[tranquil pebble]

nothing changes, just can believe even less than before is all

[velvet summit]

certainly doesnt improve it though

[dusk knot]

I meant that it was getting from bad to worse

[tranquil pebble]

boring dystopia moment

[dusk knot]

AI is just progressing too quickly

Crazy

[tranquil pebble]

nah, I personally think some good will come of it. Its a tool, like anything else.

[dusk knot]

Right

[tranquil pebble]

ofc bad actors will abuse it like they abuse everything else too

[dusk knot]

Yeah

But back to the video, the jawline is off and doesn't have depth to it.

After that it looks real

[tranquil pebble]

[dusk knot]

2000 year download

[misty sparrow]

Oh I did? Thanks for checking

I need to learn Roman numerals beyond 100 though

[unreal trail]

[tranquil pebble]

I got it to behave

[weak cedar]

3 countries I can think of

[dusk knot]

I know up to like 10,000

[grand kernel]

bruh

$500 mobo is midrange now?

[sinful blade]

Rog strix

[dusk knot]

You're paying for the design

The cosmetics

[grand kernel]

even for asus that's not midrange

asus prime b760-plus for $140 is midrange

[dusk knot]

Back to console gaming

[grand kernel]

tom's hardware is on something if they think $500 mobos are midrange

[dusk knot]

Lol

$1000+ is now high end?

[grand kernel]

it's a review of an xoc board and 2 dimm slots is listed as a con

💀

they even acknowledge that it's an xoc board

[dusk knot]

💀

[keen lynx]

i have a 5k budget build what is the best intel cpu for ddr5 that i can get?

[sinful blade]

Do you want pure gaming? Or maybe a workstation?

[tranquil pebble]

Diablo 4 feels like a MMO but not at the same

[sinful blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LHkTfy

@keen lynx quick list but something

If you’re looking to do gaming, a 7800x3d is going to be much better

Also due to the issues plaguing the 13 and 14 series rn

[cedar compass]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_ZMmMWi_yA&ab_channel=RTINGScomR%26D

F for Va panels lol

[mental yoke]

240mm aio for 14900k

[sweet phoenix]

Yeah that aio is a big no

Otherwise solid list, id do a diff ram kit

Case is a bit expensive for what it is

[mental yoke]

Yeah but 240mm aio

= no no

[deep parcel]

I love browsing newegg like its 2003

[grand kernel]

what's the problem? thermal throttling to 3ghz is totally fine

[deep parcel]

anyone have any recommendations other than the M27Q on Amazon?

I have amazon giftcard money so ive been trying to spend it on a new monitor. But Amazon will not ship me any Gigabyte monitors for whatever reason.

[mental yoke]

Tf did you do??

[deep parcel]

idek it just broke for several minutes. I also checked edge and it was also broken.

[mental yoke]

Oof 😅

Oh look

[icy obsidian]

ipa isnt miscible with salt water

[mental yoke]

Oops

Bad joke

[random osprey]

idk if this is any good, i see asus monitors being recommended time to time and this seems to be about the same as the m27q

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Gaming-1440P-Monitor-VG27AQ3A/dp/B0BZR9TMBJ/

unless if that one also doesnt ship to you

[deep parcel]

that one is shippable to me. its only Gigabyte monitors for whatever reason

[keen lynx]

@sinful blade this is what i got rn https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DsbjMV

i have storage ans a psu already

[deep parcel]

ive contacted amazon about it twice and they said their shipping partners cannot deliver it for whatever reason

[mental yoke]

Anyone else listen to the ‘scary car commercial’ music on repeat?

The one with the car

[deep parcel]

that monitor seems good but that stand seems atrocious

[dusk knot]

OH NO

oh. fillcker issues with VRR

ive only seen it once while playing Stray

[shut tartan]

any way to make this better besides gen 4 ssd maybe? shouldnt be anyway to make it better tho. This should be the best build for the price with all new parts https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vsTbHG

[proud jackal]

Yes

[weak cedar]

https://soranews24.com/2024/04/26/japanese-city-loses-residents-personal-data-which-was-on-paper-being-transported-on-a-windy-day/

Cardboard 📦 with 1k+ papers in it

[deep parcel]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CV24GQ9W/ honestly looking at this instead. it looks a lot better... I would have really liked to have the features of the KVM built into the M27Q but this seems like a good deal. it also has a good review on rtings.

[sinful blade]

My guy you’re already at the top lmao

[wary fjord]

xD

it will be fine we just have to train human how to distiguish an ai vs human

like we know if someones gay or not

[dusk knot]

huh......

[wary fjord]

actually this feature is not new

in china this is popular

[dusk knot]

its not that hard to tell, but the gap is closing

[wary fjord]

one day theres ai you

voice and face

will get a loan

under your name

xD

[dusk knot]

Just don't post your face on the Internet..easy @wary fjord

[sinful blade]

I am NOT that good with water coolers yet

[sinful blade]

I was thinking I’d go for 7200, since MB can handle, but I was torn between the rip jaws 6400 and that

[wary fjord]

i bet wwx will happen due to a fake ai video

xD

its hard to tell whats real and not

need a timeout need new law for ai

[dusk knot]

I'm time it will happen when it gets to a point where we start entering sci-fi territory

[sinful blade]

What security does the server have?
Verified phone? Or just email

[misty sparrow]

Oh man this whole Fallout 4 next gen update is essentially a crapshoot

[mental yoke]

Prove it bud

[misty sparrow]

https://www.eurogamer.net/fallout-4s-free-ps5-upgrade-isnt-currently-free-if-you-have-the-ps-plus-version

[mental yoke]

Ok there it is

Lemme check this out

[misty sparrow]

Essentially if you got the game free on PS Plus you can’t get the free upgrade

Ginormous L

[mental yoke]

Let’s see if ur right

[misty sparrow]

They fixed it for Extra but not Essential

[mental yoke]

Thats complete bs.

[misty sparrow]

as in this whole incident is ridiculous or I’m lying?

hope it’s the former

still though…advertising a free update when it isn’t free

bethesda really went downhill

[sinful blade]

Fiancé has played it on Xbox series x

Broke her mods

Broke her saves

[misty sparrow]

Did it actually do anything performance wise on PC or did it just break mods while adding creative club content

update seems pointless for everything but ps5 and Xbox series X/s

[elfin mural]

bethesda made fo4 deck compatible by guess what

removing the launcher

[misty sparrow]

How well does it run though

Solid?

I hope it’s solid, because fallout 4 is pretty badly optimized

[elfin mural]

Well

It doesn't have graphicsl settings

Since the launcher's gone

So that doesn't help the deck

[misty sparrow]

Oh wow so there’s no settings menu in game to change graphics options?

[elfin mural]

ya

[misty sparrow]

That’s absurd

[wary fjord]

sleep

its 1 am

[chrome mirage]

I've been awake for over 50 hours and I've never felt so good

Why am I getting 850mbps down but I can't watch a YouTube video.

[misty sparrow]

Now this is just scummy

They removed the “Free for all users” text

[dusk knot]

2am

[chrome mirage]

I was told that I was going to get $6000 from work near the end of April. I bet they will put it off till the last day.

[scarlet carbon]

Here's a good one for ya all, What kind of looser breaks into an apartment or house with plenty of valuables, takes NOTHING yet obviously was targeting the most expensive PC in the place, yet left because they couldn't touch it? Keep in mind, there's an AMP, an Ibanez GEO signed by Dragonforce, a Restomodded squier, a partially built/Rebuilt AM4 system, a Nintendo switch, a 27" WHQL Acer monitor, an RTX3050 and multiple other valuable things within my space, they didn't even try to shut down the computer or touched anything to attempt to do so. Their trail led directly to my chair where I sit to use the PC.

[tranquil pebble]

bait and switch?

[mortal grail]

I've just learned a horrible truth

Those new cases with a part of the frame removed for a 2 side panoramic view?

They sag

Before you know it, you'll have a crooked, ruined case with no straight lines

[hoary zodiac]

becaus it's the most expensive item and they can't carry everything

there's only so much a person can carry

[mortal grail]

They didn't take anything tho

[hoary zodiac]

wait

oh i misread it

[mortal grail]

I reckon they just wanted to play csgo

[hoary zodiac]

AHAHHAHA

that's just hilarious

[scarlet carbon]

They would have had a hard time carrying a TT Core WP100 with a Custom loop out of here even if they stole my dual mode dolly to try to get it out.

[hoary zodiac]

I'd just steal the gpus

most valuable part + easy to remove

[mortal grail]

Guys they probs just wanted to enjoy some 4K palworld

[hoary zodiac]

imagine if it was some kid that broke in just to play fortnite

[scarlet carbon]

LOL the PC wasn't even touched that's the crazy part.

Mouse and everything right where I left them.

[elfin mural]

probably broke in to look

[tranquil pebble]

sounds like someone broke in just to see what was inside yeah

[elfin mural]

and maybe do something worse later

[scarlet carbon]

RTX 3050 was sitting out on top of the desk as a spare part....

[elfin mural]

like bringing more people

[hoary zodiac]

maybe he's going to come back with a trolley

or a screwdriver

[scarlet carbon]

I doubt that... I requested that my manager get the lock fixed.

[hoary zodiac]

did they pick the lock

or straight up break in

[tranquil pebble]

he might need that for himself as he sounds like he has a few screws loose

[scarlet carbon]

They bobby and Screwdrivered it.

[hoary zodiac]

hm

low skill attack

not very sharp

not very subtle either

[scarlet carbon]

They tumbled the lock slightly cause I had to jiggle the keys when I went back out to meet with my other half.

[tranquil pebble]

lock breaking version of a script kiddie lol

[scarlet carbon]

some people are just freaking stupid.

[hoary zodiac]

-100 stealth

if they were just surveying

then that was the stupidest way to do it

for all they know the next time they would meet a booby trapped door

[scarlet carbon]

Exactly... Considering now I know someone's been breaking in....

[tranquil pebble]

ok this seems pretty spot on then

[elfin mural]

judginng by the skill

[hoary zodiac]

rig a shotgun against the door lmao

[elfin mural]

i think they broke in and got scared

[hoary zodiac]

would be funny

[hoary zodiac]

and didn't take the valuables on display that they could easily carry?

[scarlet carbon]

I do have an echo Show next to the PC....

Maybe they thought they triggered the camera?

[hoary zodiac]

lol next time you should put a motion sensor in your apartment

if anyone comes in play police sirens

gonna make him pee his pants

[scarlet carbon]

ooh I'm gonna turn the show on with motion sensing when I leave later. LOL

[hoary zodiac]

Mark Rober-ify your apartment

or better yet

[scarlet carbon]

I wish I freaking could, it kinda is really LOL They'd have to move two chairs and get around a bunch of stuff that collapsed from a stack of stuff just to get to the Tower.

[hoary zodiac]

stick a note on your door that says "tamper sensor" or something

just to mess with him

[scarlet carbon]

They're lucky I haven't had the extra money to install one of those ring peepholes. LOL

I did get permission to install one.

I could easily make one myself TBH LOL

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

a rpi, a camera, and some guy's github page

[scarlet carbon]

Just need a security cam with wifi, and a few things to mod it to the door.

[hoary zodiac]

duct tape

[scarlet carbon]

LOL

[hoary zodiac]

imagine getting arrested because of a camera duct taped onto a door

[scarlet carbon]

IKR LOL

[hoary zodiac]

never break into an engineer's apartment

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-sentry-level4-reaction-gif-20922056

[scarlet carbon]

Anyways, yeah I knew someone had been trying to get into my apartment, however I had no clue because I'd never come home to the place unlocked after accidentally turning my key the wrong way and ending up locking the door.

That's how I knew the door was unlocked...

[hoary zodiac]

surely there were cameras around

[mortal grail]

What if it was just someone from the apartment walked in

[scarlet carbon]

We have no cameras in our halls, this was all promised and they never got all of them installed. I had a moron for an amazon driver literally leave a wahl ion clipper set outside of my building and there's a camera in front of the damn door inside, not even properly installed.

[mortal grail]

What kind of trail are we talking about

Is this like some horror monster

Trail of hair

Slime

💀

[scarlet carbon]

They left a trail of stuff knocked over LOL

[mortal grail]

LOL ok fair enough

Stumbled their way in drunk

[hoary zodiac]

I still don't get why they broke in and didn't take the obvious valuables

[mortal grail]

Maybe they were drunk

[hoary zodiac]

fair

still it takes a certain kind of person to break into someone's apartment

even while drunk

unless it's someone with a master key

[scarlet carbon]

I moved in 2 years ago and the place due to costs for shelving still has stuff not unpacked.

[hoary zodiac]

shelves!? not in this economy

[scarlet carbon]

Kinda helped with the defense of the PC 🙂

My rig weighs well over 100lbs with the liquid cooling system in it.

[hoary zodiac]

does the GPU have a block on it?

if so then they can't just unscrew and yoink it

[scarlet carbon]

Wish I'd done that, however no. It's a 3070ti not worth much

considering it's also registered to me.

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

you can tuck a 3070ti inside a hoodie

and walk out

[scarlet carbon]

yeah, they'd have to shut my PC down get behind the Desk and take it out.

[hoary zodiac]

which makes wonder why he didn't do that

[hoary zodiac]

ohh so he would've had to physically reposition the rig

[scarlet carbon]

more like move chairs to get to the path to get to my PC

[hoary zodiac]

lol

maybe the boxes scared him away

[scarlet carbon]

Or directly walk over the chairs.

I had my keyboard and headset on the chair to my right with a blanket that I use sometimes to lay down to stretch, pop my back and do PT excercises with.

Imagine 2 wooden chairs meant for sitting at a table.

[hoary zodiac]

budget setup

[scarlet carbon]

The table itself behind an Ikea 72" Table desk in a reverse L.

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

[scarlet carbon]

I'm using the table as an extension for my Xbox Forza Edition and my 50" TCL LOL

My rig to replace it would cost well over 6 grand.

Not to mention the irreplacable files that are on the storage in it backed up 😦

[hoary zodiac]

lol

at least the sheer size and weight of the rig makes it annoying to steal

[scarlet carbon]

Exactly the point 🙂

So if you imagine the WP100 case with the pedestal on top for the radiators 🙂

I have 2 8TB drives, one is the older Barracuda Pro model the other is the newer Firecuda, and a 6TB skyhawk installed.

Those add weight 🙂

[hoary zodiac]

yeah NAS drives are quite heavy

especially anything 4TB+

[scarlet carbon]

even normal Drives 🙂 Which only the skyhawk isn't completely normal

all 3 are HE filled though LOL

Just glad that the way I set things up helped keep my PC safe. It's the way I planned it really I just didn't plan on it being as secure as it is 🙂

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah if the guy was smarter he still wouldn't have took the pc

[scarlet carbon]

Imagine having to replace a Ryzen 9 7950x, 64GB DDR5 Trident Z neo, a 560mm radiator, a 420mm crossflow, 8 Icegale Extras......

He didn't 🙂

I'm still using it right now.

[hoary zodiac]

Yikes

That's a whole workstation

[mortal grail]

Tbf

At that point

[hoary zodiac]

Would be very impressive if he managed to carry that out

[mortal grail]

Those things are heavy af

[hoary zodiac]

Alone

[mortal grail]

My 4090 rig is a good 30kg rn

It's like lifting a bag of cement

[hoary zodiac]

My old rig with a 5700xt and 3600 was very annoying to carry

[mortal grail]

All the rads and water contribute a lot lol

[hoary zodiac]

Mostly because of the oversized case

[scarlet carbon]

Get this, Two D5 Strongs, a Koolance 80x200mm tube res along with the pump housing, which they don't make anymore...

[hoary zodiac]

The custom loop alone probably weighs as much as all your other parts combined

Excluding case

[scarlet carbon]

I had it all out in my hands unfilled and it doesn't weigh that much, maybe 30 pounds.

[hoary zodiac]

The average thief probably doesn't know to drain the rig to reduce weight so

[scarlet carbon]

the case itself is probably 50

then with all the fans installed on everything that adds another 4-6 pounds.

HDD's Blueray drive, and 2 2.5" SSD add some weight.

The motherboard is hefty it's a 670E carbon wifi

and the sucky part I'd still be paying off the board and processor...

Could probably file a claim against the building because it's supposed to be secure.

[hoary zodiac]

At least nothing was lost

[scarlet carbon]

Yep

Two of my guitars are signed by Dragonforce

[tranquil pebble]

I would give them a chance to make a good faith effort to correct the situation first.

[scarlet carbon]

he could have snatched the nearly complete custom kit and found my GIO in the closet.

Nothing was taken though

[tranquil pebble]

Nothing was lost yet so there's also not really any damages to claim

[scarlet carbon]

so there's nothing to claim. 🙂 I was saying had something been taken 🙂

[mortal grail]

Is that the like DNA looking one

Hmmm maybe not

[scarlet carbon]

oops 😦

[mortal grail]

What was really interesting to me, was I found that dna res to be like really cool looking, but you look it up and it's like $50 used

[scarlet carbon]

no, Koolance doesn't make the DNA looking ones.

[mortal grail]

Hmmm can't remember who do then

Oh it's bykski

💀💀💀

Bykski and barrow

They always look really cool until you put them in a loop

Then it's so out of place

[scarlet carbon]

anyways I was saying they didn't even make disability accomodations and replace a stove with one that has proper and safe knobs. nor did they replace a fridge we asked them to because the seals on it are leaking.

The point here is that my PC is worth quite a bit.

The original loop cost me 800+ to build

I changed out the rads, and added a pump in 2022

I'm constantly keeping the rig updated 🙂

Every 2 years I've been updating hardware.

Just think though.... having to replace a Core TT 100 with a 200 becuase the 200's are harder to get... Then Replacing ALL of the hardware itself.....

[mortal grail]

I'm doing an update soon

Downsizing

AM5 is laughibly easy to cool so I'm going to SFF/MFF

[scarlet carbon]

Not to mention nuking the old hardware being registered with Steam, Ubisoft, Microsoft, EA, EPIC, and all the other services I use.

[mortal grail]

Gonna move my loop to a new system that deserves it

[scarlet carbon]

I woudn't downsize unless absolutely needed. SFF/MFF are VERY restrictive and cost more than they should.

[mortal grail]

I need the desk space so

[scarlet carbon]

So unless you really MUST downsize your rig it's not worth it.

[mortal grail]

I lose no performance

I get the same results as a similar system on air cooling, that's just how goofy am5 and the 4090 are

[scarlet carbon]

My tower sits on wheels on the floor 🙂

[mortal grail]

Gonna move this loop to a 13th gen rig

Something that kinda needs water

[scarlet carbon]

that's really dumb....

[mortal grail]

Why

[scarlet carbon]

AM5 deserves liquid more than any intel rig really....

[mortal grail]

A 7950x can stay under throttle with a dual tower phantom spirit

[scarlet carbon]

It helps things stay cool and keeps longevity there.

[mortal grail]

I have no issues with cooling even on air

[scarlet carbon]

I'm oldschool I prefer my idle temps low.

[mortal grail]

The temps are identical tho

The bottleneck on am5 is that thick ihs

It's not the cooler

[scarlet carbon]

IMO if you aircool a processor that SHOULD be kept low temp idle for longevity reasons you don't know better.

[mortal grail]

But it's gonna be the same temps lol

[scarlet carbon]

you think you will be....

You have no idea for sure if that's the truth or not.

[mortal grail]

No I know it will cos I've tested it against others

I've done comparisons, I get the same 77C peak as an aio and a good dual tower thermalright

The bottleneck is the IHS

It's so thick it traps heat in and gives poor transfer

[scarlet carbon]

Actually it's not that thick

[mortal grail]

It is

[scarlet carbon]

it's not....

[mortal grail]

It's like 5mm thick

We both have an am5 cpu it's hilariously thick

It's not a shell it's a block

[scarlet carbon]

Have you seen the videos GN did with AMD?

[mortal grail]

I know what my cpu looks like

Lol

[scarlet carbon]

they actually took a stock IHS for the AM5 and showed how thick they are.

[mortal grail]

https://youtu.be/cgkggcBBW8Q?si=56yEdQrBTKQZ96VF

Well under throttle

It's thick

It's probably the most thick IHS we've seen for a long time

They did this to preserve am4 compatibility

No other reason

As a result you get a cpu insulated by it's own heatspreader with something like 30% less surface area as well

Not judging you for having a loop on a 7950x, by all means, loops are a cool thing

But I am very much intent on downsizing lol

[scarlet carbon]

I like my system nice and cool though.

[mortal grail]

There's no issue with that

But I will go and downsize mine

[scarlet carbon]

Like I said I'm an oldschool 32c or under at idle guy.

[mortal grail]

Since my 77C full load is identical to people on air

Have to have very little running for am5 to be under 32c idle lol

Ryzen in general enjoys idling with some 40-70W draw

[scarlet carbon]

I like my hardware cool for the long haul.

[mortal grail]

Again not judging you for that

Lol

I have been using a loop on this chip for a while now, and I want to have my desk space back so I will downsize

I will reclaim some 3 a4 pages worth of desk space by going to sff/mff (it's on the cusp of both but it's a 20L case)

Gonna be really useful for my work lol

On the other hand...

My other 13th gen system needs, if anything more cooling

So I'm moving to p12 max

I have a heat soak issue where after about, 3 to 4 hours under 600W loads, I start to get heat trapped in the loop

Pushing temps up 10, 20C

So need stronger fans and I'm moving to a better pump as well potentially

[scarlet carbon]

I just think it's silly to run air on a processor that should be kept cool for long term usage, I intend on updating when AMD releases the next gen AM5 processors, however I'm going to wait.

[mortal grail]

I mean I'm not gonna discriminate against that, just air cooling has come a long way in the last 4 years

That cooler I linked can run a 14900K at stock, it's amazingly efficient

For $10 more you can get one of their 360 aios which are head and shoulders even better

[scarlet carbon]

I'm so mentally tired right now I don't have the energy to calculate or even take the time to estimate PSI versus temp for going to 3/8" ZMT versus staying on 1/2"

[mortal grail]

Probably not much of a huge difference

[scarlet carbon]

1/2" Primochill LRT

[mortal grail]

In a closed loop you work to Bernoulli's principle

So by sizing down the tube, you increase the water flow speed

Not much else changes, but depends on how much air you keep in the res

That air can become a fair bit pressurised under the head of the increased flow, which can offset a small bit of the flow increase

So the difference should be very minor if you were looking to change

I use ZMT myself. Very nice stuff

I sleeve it

[scarlet carbon]

I normally don't keep much air maybe 1/4"

[mortal grail]

I would suppose that the difference is minor then

At the same pump rpm the water flow (if you have a meter you can measure this) should be much faster

This is what I've learnt in plumbing and a classroom though, whether the result is truly reflective of that would come to real world testing

[scarlet carbon]

XSPC D5 strong x2 🙂

[mortal grail]

Ye dual d5 will be very strong

[scarlet carbon]

right now I'm down a pump because of a failure.

[mortal grail]

Ah sadge

D5's aren't cheap either

If you got a few years out of it tho, it lasted well

[scarlet carbon]

yeah nearly 100.00 for the XSPC Strong SATA PWM

[mortal grail]

Do you use premix or make your own

[scarlet carbon]

I got 2 years out of the pump, it didn't last much longer after the swap at the Pump;/res

The 450 from Koolance is still kicking.

or was when I yoinked it

[mortal grail]

2 years? Surely that has a warranty

Or maybe it's not new

[scarlet carbon]

I've had that since 2018