general-chat

[undone matrix]

I remember playing sims on my moms old laptop in my bed when I was younger

And it would get so hot it burned to type

☠️☠️☠️

[flint surge]

also im pairing it with the SOYO AMD Radeon RX5700XT RX5700 8G Graphics Card GDDR6 Memory PCIE4.0x16 DPx3 8Pin Gaming Video Card for Desktop Computer
4.5 85

[undone matrix]

Like the keys were hot

[flint surge]

and the TEAMGROUP MP33 512GB 1TB SLC Cache 3D NAND TLC NVMe 1.3 PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 Internal Solid State Drive SSD,up to 1800MB/s
too

instead of gskill we got PUSKILL

[elfin mural]

lol

Hey I got that ssd in my laptop

[gleaming sedge]

Any suggestions for a sub 100 dollar projector for outside at night?

[elfin mural]

Mp33, but 1tb one

[flint surge]

oh

[gleaming sedge]

I have it in my desktop 512gb and it's still my only drive

[flint surge]

and im getting the https://pcd.com.sa/en/product/fsp-psu-hv-pro-550w/

and these https://www.amazon.sa/-/en/Antec-RGB-F12-Advanced-Lighting/dp/B088D3VVBP/ref=sr_1_13 for exhaust

hello?

anyone here

guess my pc parts are so bad they quit the server

clearly bad

gotta change them

[elfin mural]

err, well

you're just thinking too much

no one's left or leaving

[flint surge]

oh

and im getting the https://www.amazon.sa/-/en/Gamemax-Expedition-H605-Micro-ATX-included/dp/B07V37R9M1/ref=sr_1_31?crid=3HNNI8JLSI82Q&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.N9ZVmXWmE6Dwt7WWt250LPm07lkvv6F00tECrmIS6ud5bkhuaE0DCUt9ooST2U1MTzq6fMFZhJrFoOVwjStzYNyqSsqLxCiAGVU9zwTKemDHNqG_WP9Bwqt9Odior6LDfAi16bI0lenQPTMRvpreXRxAbACXSWpKNhMpxOfNeM2FuJCwvdPQOkd95py4bab3JHGdp1e5Ep3G6NUT-WieJerfNIWyaMe8n4GPuV9X0_915dll4tXavmiNBWmJcG96F-rD5Pfzirok34ndb1MXwMsScFuQKVG8l0sPdwYwhXM.QyQKg6EdL4XUHTmd86Xd-Phb-AaDiJRcCoBIsquqY9s&dib_tag=se&keywords=matx+case&qid=1712263744&sprefix=matx+case%2Caps%2C154&sr=8-31 case

[elfin mural]

im just busy rn

[flint surge]

oh ok

[elfin mural]

tbh if you really like it, then go for it

the general sentiment here is very value focused, so we tend to not care about looks lol

[flint surge]

im the only one watching on youtube are aliexpress pc parts good or not

[elfin mural]

they're good if you know what you're doing

[flint surge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/fPKFczCy8Nc?si=h0WSaXV8_GDOhu-Q

warning: pc savvy ppl dont watch

[storm narwhal]

Wait wrong channel

[atomic mist]

Ty

[wary fjord]

sleep humans

[weak cedar]

I am

5am currently so soon

https://tenor.com/view/bane-batman-gif-5916138264924840740

[wary fjord]

hope u sleep atleast at noon

[weak cedar]

Ya 6 hours 😴

Night night

[elfin mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7V92lQMaH8

absolute cringe presentation

[neon notch]

Like the keys were hot

[unreal trail]

lol

[trim vigil]

yo

anyone on?

[hoary zodiac]

no

[wary fjord]

hmm they boasting how big their chips are

nvidia and intel

xD to sum up the presentation

[elfin mural]

the cringe ai generated video they used

it's too much

[wary fjord]

xD

[trim vigil]

can someone rate my pc build

[unreal trail]

3/10

[wary fjord]

where

[craggy shoal]

ur mom out of 10

[trim vigil]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/v9WpYN

[trim vigil]

There

[craggy shoal]

@mortal grail yo can you rate this guy's build? It's in upside-down dollars

[trim vigil]

You mean Aud

@wary fjord @mortal grail rate my build https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/v9WpYN

[velvet summit]

https://youtu.be/pQfWRvsDu8I

[trim vigil]

@wary fjord @craggy shoal @mortal grail https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/v9WpYN

[wary fjord]

why you downgrade to 7600

[trim vigil]

wdym down grade

[wary fjord]

nvm i thought u have 7800 earlier xD

[trim vigil]

nah

so what u guys rate it

[craggy shoal]

It's good. idk if those are normal prices though (I live in America)

[craggy shoal]

yes it's a joke

[trim vigil]

wdym

[safe cape]

Good for 120fps 1080p

[trim vigil]

how is aud a joke

thx

1440p?

[safe cape]

Depends on the game

[trim vigil]

r6

[elfin mural]

should deliver 120+ easily

[safe cape]

+120fps ez 1440p

[trim vigil]

ight

[wary fjord]

i mean its alright. it can play games

[trim vigil]

out of 10

[craggy shoal]

it should be able to 1440p 144Hz on a lot of games. my brother has the same GPU and gets a stable 144 fps on his 1440p panel

[trim vigil]

but my monitor is 1080p 180hz

soooooo

[craggy shoal]

that's fine

bruh

[elfin mural]

then that'll max it out lol

1080p is a lower res

thus less demanding

[trim vigil]

ik

[wary fjord]

i dont have ddr5 yet xD

so i dont have certificate to rate it yet\

xD

[trim vigil]

lmao

[elfin mural]

id say.. 10/10 in my personal opinion

[wary fjord]

then its a good gpu i guess

[trim vigil]

always love to hear it

[velvet summit]

aquarium filter has new software update

[craggy shoal]

Mfs filter requires updates or else the fish can't breathe 💀

[elfin mural]

are those ai generated memes

[craggy shoal]

Brain rot type energy (please send more)

JOHN HAMBURGER

[craggy shoal]

I would be impressed if the second one is AI generated, given the near perfect text

[dusk trail]

quotation marks are different

[sinful blade]

Both are ai

It’s from Reddit

Someone asked ChatGPT to make memes it thought were funny

[elfin mural]

knew it

[sinful blade]

And I actually laughed at those two

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/s/abq4gwkNkC

@sour falcon @dusk knot sunsetting has a lore reason

Or moreso the weapons that they brought back

They were “banned weapons”
Vanguard thought they were too dangerous

[sour falcon]

Oooh

[sinful blade]

So now we have an official “destiny” reason instead of “we can’t balance anymore”

[dusk knot]

Glad I don't play that trash anymore

[dusk knot]

Banned lol

For PvP?

[sinful blade]

Just in general
Vanguard thought they were “too dangerous to be kept in circulation”

[velvet summit]

HUH

[pliant berry]

yes tipping has done wonders for the restaurant industry, lets see what happens when we bring it to the gaming industry

[wary fjord]

i tried to use bing ai for this lol

it give me this

when i told it to make a image based funny memes

what weird me out is xD the ai recreate the template itself XD

like those people are from what they recall it looks like xD

[dusk knot]

O

[mighty hazel]

COD?

[dusk knot]

Overwatch

[wary fjord]

xD

i think ai likes it to be pun instead of meme

[grand kernel]

just put microtransactions in your game then your players will tip you $10000

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-arrow-lake-desktop-cpus-with-20-and-24-cores-spotted-with-no-hyperthreading

[wary fjord]

cool cpu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OffMED-KXIs

[mighty hazel]

it has gotten better tbf

[pliant berry]

ehh

[wooden marten]

how much vram do you think eyes have?

Legit our eyes are basically gpus

we imput in light and make it into a visible image

[elfin mural]

uh

there's no way to quantify that in numbers

since our brain actually stores what we see, not just processing it temporarily

i guess treat it as a storage instead of a ram

[wary fjord]

the thing is our eyes dont make up the image

world.exe already prebake all this models and textures

i think around 1 gb is enough xD

[wooden marten]

Yes but without them it would be impossible to actually see the world because of the light spectra

our eyes convert that light into a visible image like a gpu converting commands from cpu

[devout forum]

Y'all know what's funnier?

[wooden marten]

Well maybe its more eyes translate the light and brain processes it

So ig brain is a cpu with integrated graphics

[devout forum]

We use computers to turn analog to digital (mouse movements, clicks and keyboard inputs) to then have digital turned analog (with our screen) to then retranslate from analog to "digital" (neuron impulses)

[wary fjord]

yeah but it will be not mentaly draining to process it xD

we are better than gpu xD we dont lag

hahah

[dusk knot]

Mmmh

[dusk knot]

It's the same thing all the time. It's boring now. I can hardly play for more than 30 mins now

[velvet summit]

https://youtu.be/tWCEHWF5m2Q

[tranquil pebble]

I found a way to beat a boss fight on any difficulty in less than 1 second in Red Faction Armageddon lol

[icy ore]

New pc

[tranquil pebble]

Actual god-tier speedrun exploit

I'm likely not the first to discover it but it was still cool

[mental yoke]

hey bois

[craggy shoal]

bro where is this actually?

totally not asking for unethical purposes

[tranquil pebble]

imagine a rackmount gaming pc

[craggy shoal]

Not that new of an idea
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Rackmount-Capability-SST-RM44/dp/B0BFC8FZ8B/ref=sr_1_1

wish I could do it but I don't have a rack

[velvet summit]

wait huh

[craggy shoal]

2U cases are like half or less than half the price of that lol

[velvet summit]

why are my reads so much higher than my writes lmao

[craggy shoal]

Drives read more than they write

think about it. Are you writing upon boot?

yet you turn your computer on everyday

[velvet summit]

idk why it would be reading that drive specifically

[icy ore]

It’s at a theatre lol

[velvet summit]

it isnt the C drive

it's my archive drive that i store files that i dont use in

[craggy shoal]

They even make 5U cases 💀
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Rackmount-Capability-SST-RM51/dp/B0BVZ8BTNH/ref=sr_1_6

oh gotcha

motor

[velvet summit]

theoretically it should be around equal or maybe even less reads

oh well

[crude wolf]

Who knows about avx 512 fully

[craggy shoal]

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=avx+512

[wary fjord]

lol chess.com fixes domain blocker for school so students can play chess haha

they have so many alternate domain like

https://schoolschoolschool.com
https://www.pleasedontblockchess.com/
https://www.justdoinghomework.com/
https://superhardalgebraproblems.com
etc

they really xD want students to play chess

[velvet summit]

i missed the "alge"

suprhardbraproblems ☠️

[ancient swift]

👀 I wanna see what the 40 CU's can do

[wary fjord]

so close to 3050

[ancient swift]

I wanna see the mobile Strix point APU's too. Could be some crazy handheld performance.

[wary fjord]

it will be a good 720p apu

solid 60

[icy ore]

[wary fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYHeetEZcSg

[ancient swift]

We already have those

[wary fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgmjBvvxyWA

[unreal trail]

[wary fjord]

bruh someone ported spiderman 2

on a pc

and this is their progress wtf xD and its 200gb

haha

not a fan of spooder games xD but cool i guess

[tranquil pebble]

I can has 64-bit Discord

[wary fjord]

looks like malware

xD

no icon

64 bit

but the official client is 32bit

because its just a browser xD embeding the discord react client

[tranquil pebble]

There's an official 64 bit client

https://discord.com/api/downloads/distributions/app/installers/latest?channel=stable&platform=win&arch=x64

you change x86 to x64 in the download link

[wary fjord]

yeah but no icon xD

why is no icon

[tranquil pebble]

no idea

also you get this if you ask for an invalid arch

[wary fjord]

very sus

[tranquil pebble]

its signed, so eh

[wary fjord]

yeah i guess thats good enough xD

wait no thats the setup

nvm i extracted the setup its indeed 64 but it has icon

[tranquil pebble]

mine has the icon too, my task manager was being bad

Its alive. lol

[wary fjord]

good

[tranquil pebble]

Microsoft claims WoW64 has no overhead on x64 CPUs, but it actually does... 32-bit applications running on 64-bit Windows incur a 512 KB memory penalty per thread and thus can not create as many threads as the same application can on 32-bit Windows

[wary fjord]

i ask ai to fact check this xD becaust 6am too early for my brain to comprehend xD

yeah i guess theres overhead but just minimal

[tranquil pebble]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/winprog64/performance-and-memory-consumption?redirectedfrom=MSDN

This is my source. Too bad GPT doesn't say its souce. lol

I also forgot to mention that the 512 KB bit is a rough estimate

[wary fjord]

it does

ow chatgpt

this is gemini

xD

[tranquil pebble]

oh ok, yeah ChatGPT is sus with its sources

So same source just wording lol

[wary fjord]

yeah gemini pointed this too

thats why it says its partially true because its no a fix number

[tranquil pebble]

its a limit that usually won't matter but might for certain things...

[tranquil pebble]

Worth it or no?

[wary fjord]

depends if u have usecase for that amount of ram

[tranquil pebble]

I do

I just wanted to know if that price is fair for that kit

[wary fjord]

hmm

theres some cheaper i guess

240 bucks something

[tranquil pebble]

hmm... ECC of slightly lower speed is cheaper

[wary fjord]

still sound high xD ill pay 180 usd for that

xD

for 2nd hand

[weak cedar]

[wary fjord]

i dont know what im looking at

[weak cedar]

In drive and not using breaks

I can hold the car in place without using the break pedal

[wary fjord]

nice

[craggy shoal]

For people who can't function a normal car

[tranquil pebble]

Some people just should not drive...

[mighty hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807588104746958858/1228835600761753700/hqdefault.jpg?ex=662d7d55&is=661b0855&hm=4781435abe59b83c13e5dd8c6a67eeb9cbc3e89aada27518400458db46c62d21&

💀

[tranquil pebble]

meme tier news article

[mighty hazel]

Fr

[wary fjord]

haha he probably have fun with that

people done worst than that

yet they dint go to jail

like giving guns to some [redacted] xD

and they asking whos fault it is xd

[worthy meteor]

I tried to find that story at the time but it seemed like it was edited later

There was a guy that got arrested in connection to parking garage collapse but no homeless people pickaxe mentioned

[tranquil pebble]

I could honestly imagine Batman Joker doing this

derp moment: I just tried finding this server with ctrl-k while in it...

[icy ore]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-moon-fire-gif-27342521

[mighty hazel]

real

[dusk knot]

Lolololol

[wooden marten]

236 for ddr4, slow speeds and doesn't even include heatsink

[safe cape]

https://youtu.be/vxHCJ0IM4yQ?si=V1UkRa2k4D6lKgBG

[tranquil pebble]

lol

[safe cape]

@rancid juniper

[random osprey]

me frfr

[wooden marten]

absolutely stunning

[icy ore]

Dang that’s nice

[wooden marten]

shaders really change the game to gpu bound though

cpu is only at 14% usage even though mc is supposed to be cpu bound

[tranquil pebble]

Someone should make a JRPG in Java

[random osprey]

there probably is a modpack for that already

[tranquil pebble]

lol

[tranquil pebble]

Firefox reminds me of cheese

[wooden marten]

Firefox reminds me of being a kid

Playing fancy pants

[craggy shoal]

damb chat is dead today

[rancid juniper]

yes?

[craggy shoal]

give this man his H-pattern

I want to see bro cook

[rancid juniper]

😂

https://youtu.be/g51bxcY0CP8?si=mZT2tqyhKBM-QBRZ @craggy shoal @safe cape @mortal grail

[neon notch]

[unreal trail]

[wary fjord]

hmmm

not so different

[wary fjord]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-officially-introduces-ryzen-7-8700f-and-ryzen-5-8400f-cpus @rancid juniper

its like xD intel naming scheme

on a ryzen

nvm

wait

i thought its april fools Xd because april 1 posted

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-8700f

[velvet summit]

Heritage eggs are very rich and golden

[rancid juniper]

BRUH

[rancid juniper]

ryzen turned into bluetel

[velvet summit]

The egg yolk colour

Palest = unhealthy/caged chickens

Orange = chicken had alot of protein from bugs and such

[weak cedar]

egg color wheel

[wary fjord]

just amd things

[wary fjord]

i miss the days when people are scared from unknown thats gonna happen to them if they do stupid stuff

now they just teasing death

[rancid juniper]

man, i honestly dont know why they are doing this

you built up civilizations and now you want destruction

[wary fjord]

yin yang

[rancid juniper]

yea.....

[tranquil pebble]

[wary fjord]

haha

[pseudo raven]

wtf

i found out theres enough room for pc in college dorm

so i may be building after all

[wary fjord]

u gonna build intel yes?

[pseudo raven]

💀

[wary fjord]

14900k 4090?

[pseudo raven]

nah i wait

[wary fjord]

hope ur 900k wont die

[pseudo raven]

for next gen

[wary fjord]

in few months

ow

so amd yes?

[pseudo raven]

yes

[wary fjord]

because intel doesnt have answer to that yet

xd

[pseudo raven]

whenever ive bought amd has been best option

well who knows how much that thing will cost

i wont get that sku anyway

[wary fjord]

ryzen 9 9950x3d when

[pseudo raven]

ill get the 7 or most likely

the 5

[wary fjord]

does 950 on amd has x3d

[pseudo raven]

yes

[wary fjord]

ow

that then + 5090 super

xD

[tacit geode]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/rollercoaster-tycoon-3/ray-tracing-rtx-remix

😮

[wary fjord]

then put accelarator card on the 2nd pcie slot

[wary fjord]

cool game

[rancid juniper]

<30fps

[wary fjord]

i dont think this is healthy

[storm narwhal]

It's naturally pre-cracked

Obviously it's healthy

[pseudo raven]

Fimally

[velvet summit]

He enjoys

[rancid juniper]

@grand kernel another juicy bios update

[wary fjord]

oh my board has new update too

[rancid juniper]

nice, are u using intel cpu?

[wary fjord]

thanks for reminding me xd

no no

[rancid juniper]

ok

[wary fjord]

nvm wont install it

[rancid juniper]

XD why?

[wary fjord]

anything that says "vulnerabilities security" xD i dont wanna install it... they have to trade something for it

its gonna hit something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90ugRnZc_Go

see

[rancid juniper]

dunno whats going on in the amd cpu side of things but alrighty

[wary fjord]

it score higher multi thread on geek bench hmm interesting

[rancid juniper]

sounds fine

[wary fjord]

but lower on cinebench

literally no impact in games xD hmm ok

[rancid juniper]

🤔

[idle nexus]

loved enjoyed by giraffe people everywhere?

[obsidian berry]

I think they photoshopped the boy’s neck

[wary fjord]

they do

for symetry xD

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xpQQRnuSdI4?feature=share

oooo

ill put this on my caution list

xD

it smokes lol

[atomic current]

new weekend activity

getting computers addicted to nicotene

[high star]

is 850 a pretty normal download if im on fiber

[wary fjord]

invalid question xD

speed depends on the plan you bought or agreed upon by you and the isp

and lowest u can get is listed on their tos labeld "minimum service reliability"

maximum fiber can do is 44.2 tbps (by a test)

but that information is useless since ur isp capped ur service base on your plan

[velvet summit]

You can get 850 on cable internet
You can get under 850 on fiber
Like tomie said, it all depends on your plan

[obsidian berry]

Elaborate pls

[wary fjord]

tldr computer go puff puff

[obsidian berry]

That makr no sense

Wait

[lofty anvil]

ello

[obsidian berry]

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2020-03/20/19/asset/6ecdd03ee306/sub-buzz-2916-1584731602-9.jpg?downsize=700%3A*&output-quality=auto&output-format=auto

This but a pc

[lofty anvil]

my god

the toilet is smoking

:panic:

😡

so i put this 4070ti into my i9

[atomic current]

https://youtu.be/yfLp_vueUxY?si=9RWRPW8uune4B53_

nicotine lore

[tranquil pebble]

Intel Lore i5

[lofty anvil]

<points n babbles

[elfin mural]

I like how nicotine was marketed as being all great and harmless

[tranquil pebble]

Something to keep in mind whenever companies make similar claims of any other product

[elfin mural]

lmao

[tranquil pebble]

history repeats itself

[nocturne flicker]

Something to keep in mind when companies make any claims ever. Do not trust and you won't get bit by them

[elfin mural]

Nvidia's GTC was cringe

AI generated music

Creepy

[tranquil pebble]

not surprising at all considering what they're into...

[elfin mural]

Meanwhile

Intel shows AI generated short movie

They announced their new ai processor

[tranquil pebble]

AI generated CPU design when? /j

[hoary zodiac]

Can't they just put it into their gpus

[tranquil pebble]

when AI starts generating new AI models, I think that is when we should start worrying

[hoary zodiac]

AI can't think

[tranquil pebble]

ik, it was a joke

[hoary zodiac]

I find it weird how overhyped AI is

It's just a well trained algorithm

There's nothing more to it

There is no intelligence

It can only do what you tell it to do

[tranquil pebble]

its a fancy pattern finding algorithm yeah

[tranquil pebble]

calling it "AI" is part of the problem

people lacking critical thinking is another part of the problem

[hoary zodiac]

Yes

Chess programs can be considered AI in that respect

Hell youtube's been training their algorithm with public data for years

This is nothing new

And somehow people fall for this crap

[tranquil pebble]

ML algorithms are useful... what is being marketed as "AI" is eh...

[hoary zodiac]

Mechanical computers are interesting tho

They're better suited for AI workloads iirc

Maybe that's where real AI will appear

[tranquil pebble]

Those have been used in automatic transmissions in cars

[hoary zodiac]

or it's just wishful thinking

for something useful to come out of this AI fad

[tranquil pebble]

Useful stuff already has come out, just massively overhyped

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

Algorithms are everywhere

they've been a thing for a decade

[tranquil pebble]

GPT can help you search for information for example

but it can not do anything that requires real intelligence

[hoary zodiac]

I like Bing AI

[tranquil pebble]

Yeah, rare Microsoft W

[hoary zodiac]

I think they're better as specialized algorithms

rather than a general purpose tool

Bing AI is surprisingly useful for research

[tranquil pebble]

Hatsune Miku + LLM = ???

[hoary zodiac]

I really like AI voice tho

It's a nice evolution of text to speech

for people who can't afford to hire voice actors

[tranquil pebble]

I am going to use Hatsune Miku software to voice chat one of these days for lulz

[hoary zodiac]

it's a nice tool to get started in animation or content creation

a lot of good things have come out

[young matrix]

ai voice changers already exist

[chrome mirage]

I just found out another one of my friends has moved out of town. I'm down to one friend that still lives here

[atomic current]

huh

russia still produces asbestos

[chrome mirage]

It's a fire resistant insolation. If you don't care about people's health it's very good

We still have it in most of our schools in Canada

@atomic current I've worked in multiple schools with asbestos ceiling and floor tiles. Also asbestos insolation was very popular.

[pliant berry]

The asbestos is fine as long as it is not disturbed

Most schools in nyc still have asbestos but they need contractors to do removal on any areas involved in new construction

[chrome mirage]

one of the schools I worked at had asbestos pouring out of the walls for 30 years before they decided to do something about it. my dad told me he used to play with it.

[sour falcon]

Yippie

[pliant berry]

Yikes

[atomic current]

even most "temporary" school buildings are probably lined with asbestos tbf

the broad awareness of its harm is a fresh chapter in history still

[pliant berry]

Well I should hope no one is building new construction with it anymore

[atomic current]

in the developed world, probably very little

but russia still produces it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[chrome mirage]

in 2017 I was working at a Chevy dealership and I was told that brake pads might still have asbestos in them due to the amount of asbestos pads that were made.

[pliant berry]

Why make brake pads out of asbestos

[atomic current]

that's what they were made of lol

[chrome mirage]

brake pads get really hot and asbestos doesn't catch on fire

[grand kernel]

noooooo

[tranquil pebble]

yeah I'd assume its bad to have your brakes catch fire

[chrome mirage]

i think theres some videos of it on youtube. when they get that hot usually your brakes weren't working before they caught on fire

[tranquil pebble]

brake fade its called

[chrome mirage]

https://youtu.be/sQg89buZNbk?si=aSnHINjE0tAJvSXi

[chrome mirage]

never had that problem even with stock pads. I've never been on track before though so thats probably why

[tranquil pebble]

that is why...

if you overheat brakes in normal driving something has gone very wrong

[chrome mirage]

I've chased down some high horsepower cars on backroads with my stock 86 and never had any issues

[tranquil pebble]

you have to like get your car to near top speed, brake and repeat to overheat brakes generally

so we're talking 120+ mph

I sure hope you're not driving that fast on public roads

[chrome mirage]

I did that one time and realized that I don't want to die so I drive a lot safer now

[tranquil pebble]

The other time brakes can overheat: big truck going down a long slope

engine braking is used here for that reason

[chrome mirage]

you know you are going to fast when your tires come off the ground before going into a corner

[devout forum]

Carbon-ceramic brakes are supposed to be super resistant to overheating

[chrome mirage]

I jumped a 90 horsepower car on the street when I was 16

[tranquil pebble]

loss of traction in corner, about to possibly crash

[devout forum]

Besides that 963 is literally designed to operate normally with the brakes over 500 Celsius

Racecars are honestly incredible

[chrome mirage]

I only crashed once and I was going like 15 mph. the plow truck driver plowed over a ditch and I was trying to be safe on a blind corner

[devout forum]

So much footage of racecars going fast with the discs literally glowing in the dark

[chrome mirage]

the older I get the safer I drive. I have more to live for so I care more about crashing.

[devout forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJqo7ftR-vE
That's some quick work there

[chrome mirage]

I've had people honking at me for driving to slow around corners now.

[tranquil pebble]

I ran my car off the road from losing control once. I was only going 30 mph so no damage... had to get the car pushed out though

I hit ice which is how I lost control

[chrome mirage]

when I went off the road doing 15 mph I stretched my park brake cable and I couldn't use the park brake after that

dropped the tire in the ditch and just rode the edge till the car stopped

[tranquil pebble]

I went off the road at 60 mph on purpose once... defensive driving against a semi truck that crossed over into my lane

partially off the road anyways

managed to get back on the road though

[chrome mirage]

some of those semi drivers don't care about the cars around them. I was doing a dring test and I had to do 20 over the speed limit to not get run over.

I learned how to drive cars off road when I was 14 and I've been driving atv's since I was 10 so I know how to handle vehicles

[chrome mirage]

I switched to ethernet from wifi and this happened

[atomic current]

interrupted

[mental yoke]

i had to leave work early 3 due to mental health

Dark Souls 3 huh

not too shabby

[weak cedar]

this really confuses my mind

now ffull screen

[mental yoke]

whats the difference?

[wary fjord]

The pixel at 247 shifted to left.

[hoary zodiac]

Crop?

[mental yoke]

Okay.

My bad, I couldn’t tell what was wrong with it

[remote geode]

I wonder if the damage extended into other parts too...

idk what these SMDs surrounding the (what I'd assume the MOSFET would be)

[elfin mural]

They're likely fuses

Or a bunch of sensors it seems on the schematics

[remote geode]

yeah

looks like a fuse blew

[elfin mural]

ya

[remote geode]

might need to replace the fuse on the bottom too

my delicate hands can never...

XD

[rigid seal]

i found a pc with a intel i5-13400f and a 4070 is that good for $1150?

[hoary zodiac]

I want to say no

But I'm quite out of the loop

[elfin mural]

meh

[hoary zodiac]

what the hell is an 8500G

yeah I'm way out of the loop

[elfin mural]

8600g but less cache

even less i think

[hoary zodiac]

compared to a 7600?

[elfin mural]

ya

[hoary zodiac]

It's like $20 less

than a 7600

I'm trying to throw together a very crappy list

[mental yoke]

8600g!?!

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VqnYCd

yeah meh deal

[mental yoke]

oh

[hoary zodiac]

this is a list with no effort

[mental yoke]

they do exist

[hoary zodiac]

do not use this as reference

[mental yoke]

i never would

[hoary zodiac]

basically

meh deal

could be better

[mental yoke]

im about to go pickup my new 4tb nvme i ordered 6 days ago

[hoary zodiac]

cool

[mental yoke]

yeh

[hoary zodiac]

@elfin mural how does the 4070 compare to a 7900XT

It's been a while

[mental yoke]

Let’s ask AI

[hoary zodiac]

uh

[mental yoke]

ofc it needs specs

[hoary zodiac]

meh

the decent 7900XTs are $699+

[mental yoke]

AI said: The 4070 and 7900XT are both graphics cards, but they belong to different generations. The 4070 is likely newer, so it might offer better performance and features compared to the 7900XT. However, without specific details on their specs, it's hard to make a direct comparison.

[hoary zodiac]

please don't use AI for hardware comparisons

[mental yoke]

I know

I was joking

[hoary zodiac]

It can't measure performance

[mental yoke]

I know that

[rigid seal]

what ab an i5-13400f + 4060ti + 32gb ddr4 + 1TB ssd for 1k

[hoary zodiac]

that's objective worse imo

[rigid seal]

really?

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VqnYCd

this

you can get this around the price of the previous rig

but again this is just to show that you can get at the 1.1k price range

not an actual recommendation

[rigid seal]

aight

[hoary zodiac]

ooo what's a 7900 GRE

It's in the 4070 price bracket

[mental yoke]

and what SSD is it?

[rigid seal]

1TB M.2

[hoary zodiac]

Prebuilt I'm assuming?

They tend not to be too detailed with their specs... unless they have a premium ssd in the rig

[mental yoke]

hm

specific type?

and gen?

[rigid seal]

yeah it’s a prebuilt i was just looking around for steals not planning to buy

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

these deals are pretty meh

They're not outrageous

but you can do a lot better

[rigid seal]

ight

[hoary zodiac]

they're worth the price in components

but not performance

[mental yoke]

i just built a system for $400

[hoary zodiac]

i.e., you can get better performance per dollar if the build was better optimized for your use case

[mental yoke]

its all used on ebay tho

[hoary zodiac]

fascinating

Let me guess

Xeon?

[mental yoke]

no actually

[hoary zodiac]

X79?

[mental yoke]

nope

[hoary zodiac]

oh

those tend to be very cheap

although pretty mediocre these days... (I'd still take it over a skylake)

[mental yoke]

Ryzen 5 3500x + 1650 Super OC

[hoary zodiac]

not bad

[mental yoke]

with a 512gb nvme

not the fastest

[hoary zodiac]

eh

[mental yoke]

but it’ll do for now

i dont really play many games anyway

ima prob end up selling it for $350-$380

[hoary zodiac]

personally I don't really notice the difference between gen 3 and gen 4

[mental yoke]

i think i did pretty good

ngl

[hoary zodiac]

I own like one game that might see improvements

[mental yoke]

16gb ddr4 running at 3600mhz

[hoary zodiac]

yeah that's fairly decent

[mental yoke]

it doesn’t have the best looking chassis out there

but im thinking of simply adding argb fans to the top of it

yk, to increase probability of it selling

[hoary zodiac]

the only real issues with cheap cases are poor design & airflow

[mental yoke]

its okay

imma add like 3-4 more fans for airflow

[hoary zodiac]

doesn't really impact performance that much otherwise

[mental yoke]

it already comes with 2

[hoary zodiac]

is it worth it though?

[mental yoke]

yes 🙂

[hoary zodiac]

get like cheap $2 chinese argb fans

I wouldn't spend too much on it

buyers are going to focus more on the case than the fans

[mental yoke]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/296008290683?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D263617%26meid%3D0694344ae71f4f96abff32b4ebcdc4be%26pid%3D101429%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D296008290676%26itm%3D296008290683%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2332490%26algv%3DSimPLMWebV1CPCAutoManual&_trksid=p2332490.c101429.m2460&itmprp=cksum%3A2960082906830694344ae71f4f96abff32b4ebcdc4be|enc%3AAQAJAAAA8OfK84Ydv1r5uz9ZG%252BtRiRxp0TbjGeNVW3z9ywv7hy6%252BDVQA6THtOolq00fes%252B%252B3YFMMpOsvDSTLgLNcRYguhBChn939LiZOl8v1YTH9t7R97RNA2XGuVmMce82%252FeKaqsn533a2QyASfAwWTsc2tFmydCjuPxKdXC1ZgviyRysZkmQKEv2Iu1cFZGs6gw0TvZiF96u9d9LGKiMVW5QHkOb2ob4Gnnp30YKkwzWekkxCOlNvETg17IjQQWHfcnAwF18wENsJQYKLrdumFvbNXW2ItSXDBdh7hY8xtLS132XtjFmzlvAZBJUq1rgxsnKyatQ%253D%253D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2332490&epid=4063743322&itmmeta=01HVE989G1FZCY80PP4NKMCTB8

woah

holy hell

big link

anyway

thats the chassis

[hoary zodiac]

I think the fans are fine

[mental yoke]

im gonna add like 2-3 more plain black ones

[hoary zodiac]

airflow's not too bad

I don't think you're see much improvements tbh

it's decent enough already

[dull thistle]

Never order on Neweggs again

[mental yoke]

so what do you think?

[hoary zodiac]

besides you don't have much power hungry components

You setup is actually pretty solid rn

[rigid seal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mLZ6ZJ lemme know

[hoary zodiac]

I doubt new fans would really make a difference for a 1650s and a 3500x

[hoary zodiac]

You don't really need a cooler for a locked chip

stock cooler works fine tbh

[rigid seal]

ok

[hoary zodiac]

12400F is kinda old

especially for how much the pc costs

[rigid seal]

what does the locked chip part mean idk abt that

[hoary zodiac]

basically just means you can't overclock it

basically K chips don't come with stock coolers

for a very good reason

people tend to overclock those chips

and the stock coolers can't handle them

but for the 12400F the stock cooler could handle it fine

[rigid seal]

oh i gotchu

how would replacing it w a 12600kf be

[hoary zodiac]

again

older architecture

you can do much better for the same price (maybe less)

[rigid seal]

aight

what are some newer cpus i haven’t really looked into them that much

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PKwRXk

modified your list a bit

It's not the most optimized but yeah you can do a lot better for less

[mortal grail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YtZ6ZJ boop

@rigid seal

[hoary zodiac]

techie to the rescue

[mortal grail]

Better cpu, gpu, ssd, psu

[hoary zodiac]

oh what the 12600KF is cheaper than the 7600?

[mortal grail]

Mhm

[hoary zodiac]

oh wow that's solid

[mortal grail]

Oh could've done ddr5 ig

[hoary zodiac]

might as well

surely it's not that much more

I'm surprised you can even fit a 4070 super in that price range

I only managed to stuff in a 7900 GRE

[mortal grail]

Yeah much better
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p7VMYN

[hoary zodiac]

$13

[mortal grail]

Went from 2tb to 1tb

[hoary zodiac]

worth it

btw what's your opinion of the 7900GRE?

I'm a bit out of the loop

been on a 4 month hiatus

[mortal grail]

It's good

I'd argue in the conventional means it's better than 4070 super

[hoary zodiac]

in gaming?

[mortal grail]

But people prefer nvidia and the super isn't bad so

Ye

[hoary zodiac]

$559 compared to $599 is a justifiable price increase

so I can see why

It's not too big of a price gap

[mortal grail]

Pretty sure the gre is still better

[hoary zodiac]

yeah for a pure gaming pc I'd definitely pick a GRE then

[mortal grail]

But just saying, more than willing to recc nvidia when it's a decent price

[hoary zodiac]

yeah $599 isn't bad

my experience with nvidia is that they tend to have better overall performance

when taking into account games that favour nvidia and non-gaming workloads

but radeon tends to have better value for most gaming workloads

[mortal grail]

Disagree nowadays

But people are afraid of change so it's whatever

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

How close is the performance gap for non-gaming workloads nowadays I wonder

[mortal grail]

Show a linux user an nvidia card and they'll commit aliven't on the spot

[mortal grail]

Both closer and further than people think with rdna 3

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

[hoary zodiac]

ahahhahah

can relate

I daily arch linux

and nvidias are definitely more annoying to get working

the open source radeon drivers are excellent and everything just works

but you have to go through a bunch of extra steps for your nvidia gpu to play nice on linux

assuming that it will work at all

but yeah back when I had a 5700XT I actually didn't had much to complain about it

since I was on the open source drivers

the card was still relatively new when it launched

the usual "buggy launch drivers" shenanigans

[rigid seal]

so if i really wanted to spend $13 more on the super for the og 1TB i was gonna go for I could too

Appreciate that

[mortal grail]

I really wouldn't swap anything

Unless like

Phanteks xt pro case

But some don't like matx in atx

[rigid seal]

and ddr5 i didnt notice that either

[mortal grail]

Me, I don't mind matx in atx tho

[rigid seal]

alr

[mortal grail]

Or you could drop to a nice 650W like a650gl if it's cheaper

But a850gl is just the best under 100 rn

A750gf good second place alongside leadex iii

May as well for a few dollars right?

[rigid seal]

saves me like 2 months later on so probably

[hoary zodiac]

are you upgrading 2 months after you build it?

[mortal grail]

In any case it's about as tight on the budget as you can reasonably do

The b760m also supports cpu oc

It's a unique board for this

[hoary zodiac]

oh really?

[mortal grail]

Should do

[hoary zodiac]

oh wow

[mortal grail]

Specifically for 12th gen afaik

[hoary zodiac]

No Z tax this time

[rigid seal]

nah i meant like if i need to upgrade like 4-5 yrs from now or somn i could do it like a few months later than i would need to cause of it

[hoary zodiac]

oh

I was scared for a second

Is it just me or are PC prices kinda stagnant for the past couple of months

[mortal grail]

Mid gen loop so yeah it'll be like this until just before we hit the new releases

[hoary zodiac]

I remember buying a 5700XT during mid gen

everyone else was like "wait for ampere"

but then funny virus happened

[mortal grail]

Well turing was terrible

[hoary zodiac]

my stupid semi-impulsive decision paid off

[mortal grail]

Idc how many tell me it was good, next to pascal it was ass

[hoary zodiac]

the 5700XT would've been a bad decision if covid hadn't happened

[craggy shoal]

Good morning everybody

[mortal grail]

Ye

[hoary zodiac]

because 3070 would've just destroyed it

[mortal grail]

5700xt aged well tho

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

[craggy shoal]

or I guess you two are overseas from me. Good afternoon/evening

[hoary zodiac]

more like good night

[mortal grail]

Good midday

[craggy shoal]

good midday and goodnight then

lol

[mortal grail]

I think it's midday

How long is a day on mars again

[hoary zodiac]

Sadly I had to part ways with it when I realised that shipping a massive desktop computer across the pacific was a stupid idea

got a slight upgrade in the form of the 3070 mobile

[mortal grail]

Should've made it an sff then taken it as a carry on

[hoary zodiac]

I'd argue that the 5700XT might outperform it in certain scenarios tho

[hoary zodiac]

I also needed a laptop for school so

figured I'd kill two birds with one stone

less hassle

[mortal grail]

It can top your lap

If it's small enough

[hoary zodiac]

true

[mortal grail]

[hoary zodiac]

honestly a good compact matx case would've worked

actually now I think about it

I would've needed a new motherboard and a new cooler

[mortal grail]

I'm downsizing my main rig soon

[hoary zodiac]

so yeah nvm it wouldn't have worked

[mortal grail]

Tired of the heavy 30kg box full of waterlooping

[hoary zodiac]

at least not for cheap

[craggy shoal]

I wanna downsize lol

[hoary zodiac]

My current setup is tiny

laptop + second monitor + server

[mortal grail]

The future is mff ✨🙌✨

[hoary zodiac]

I love matx

compact matx that is

It's cost effective yet it really doesn't take up much space

[hoary zodiac]

server is a remnant from my old rig

I couldn't let my two funny 8TB nas drives go

so i bought a mini pc

but yeah my entire setup can fit inside carry on luggage

pretty neat

actually I'm not too sure about that

the protective case for the hard drives is pretty bulky

that's the main concern really

It's one of these things but it's got two slots for 3.5" drives

[mortal grail]

I can't do those

No airflow

[hoary zodiac]

oh no this is just for the drives

[mortal grail]

Ah

My new case is gonna be 20.3L

[hoary zodiac]

I'm a bit paranoid when it comes to vibrations

[mortal grail]

No change to specs

Just the case

[hoary zodiac]

or mechanical stuff shaking around in general

[icy ore]

Probably hella expensive

[hoary zodiac]

$10

I was in china at the time

[icy ore]

Oh, dang

[mortal grail]

Yeah those cases aren't too bad in the wrong stores lmao

[hoary zodiac]

It's just a padded plastic case with foam

and it's a small one with slots for two

(also might have something to do with me ordering stuff inside china)

[icy ore]

The genuine pelican cases are insanely expensive lol

[mortal grail]

[hoary zodiac]

yeah it's not geniune

It's only two hard drives tho

the quality wasn't bad for how much I paid for it tho

tho I was looking more in terms of "vibration protection" than ruggedness

[icy ore]

Pelican cases are kinda like the Stanley cups for businesses

[hoary zodiac]

Nothing freaks me out more than unprotected hard drives on a Boeing 777-300ER

[icy ore]

Lmao

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah and like stanley cups

The cheap chinese one works

I'm a sucker for chinese knockoffs

Especially when you're buying them inside china

They're sooo cheap

[icy ore]

lol I can imagine there’s knockoffs for everything over there

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

The chinese e-commerce market is massive

[elfin mural]

said knock-offs are leaking into thailand too

[hoary zodiac]

Chinese e-commerce culture is actually pretty interesting

[elfin mural]

lots of products here can be sold from china without any taxes or fees

[hoary zodiac]

People order stuff online all the time

It's cheaper than going to the stores

[elfin mural]

there was an agreement for free trade between china and thailand

including cars

[hoary zodiac]

And they have literally everything

[icy ore]

yo ngl some of those knockoffs are just as good/even better

[hoary zodiac]

They are

[elfin mural]

With phone cases

[hoary zodiac]

They also make funny "knockoffs" too

[elfin mural]

The chinese knockoffs of big brands are usually the same quality

Or better

[hoary zodiac]

In quotations because sometimes they add features that makes it genuinely superior to the original

Sadly a lot of that stuff doesn't make it out of china

[elfin mural]

Like samsung's official cases suck

They fall apart so quickly

[hoary zodiac]

And those that do are really inflated in price

But yeah

If you ever go to China

Bring an empty luggage case

Maybe two

You'll find the stupidest crap that is somehow practical

[elfin mural]

My keeb is already showing signs of a dying switch

There's this one switch on a key I use often that doesn't work sometimes

[hoary zodiac]

Average chinese keyboard

[elfin mural]

At least it's hotswap

It was like $20 so

[icy ore]

Fairly certain that Oreos are just a knockoff of Hydrox but Oreos were better and became successful

[elfin mural]

Can't complain

It's literally better than more expensive stuff outside of warranty, or lack thereof

[hoary zodiac]

My first mech was $20 too

[elfin mural]

The weak point is the cheap switches

[hoary zodiac]

One of the keys died pretty quickly

Friend's mech died too

So it is really common for these cheap switches to die

[elfin mural]

I'll get new switches later

Can easily swap em

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

Good thing about cheap hotswaps

You can just swap it out

Ez

Kinda regretting not getting the hotswap for my keychron

[elfin mural]

soldering time

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

It's a keychron

[elfin mural]

Yeah that's fair

[hoary zodiac]

The switches will last me a while

[elfin mural]

Hotswap is good to have tho

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

I'll probably get a hotswap if this keychron dies

Love this thing tho

Fits in very well with my micro setup

I say micro but I have a habit of taking up too much desk space

Even with a smaller setup

[elfin mural]

My keeb is pretty compact

It's slightly narrower than my laptop

[hoary zodiac]

My K6 is pretty damn compact as well

Tho i do miss having more keys

The games I play tend to use the extra keys

I want this as my next keyboard tbh

It's a decent size

Or even this

Keychron makes some really nice niche keyboards

[craggy shoal]

I want the Q12

southpaw full-sized keyboard

[hoary zodiac]

There's a keychron for everyone

And they're pretty affordable too

Well it depends on the keyboard tbh

[craggy shoal]

I just put these key caps on my V3

[hoary zodiac]

The niche one cost more but

Oh my god that looks nice

[craggy shoal]

I wish there were more 70% keyboards (like their V7, the best mix between 60% and 65%)

[hoary zodiac]

My K6 is 65%

It's good but I have to rebind my keys for some games

[craggy shoal]

How long did it take to get used to the short shift key?

[hoary zodiac]

I use Lshift

[craggy shoal]

I've been thinking about getting a 65% for years but I'm too scared that I won't like the right shift key

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah I never use right shift

Wait

What the hell

[craggy shoal]

nah I learned to type in class and now I'm forced to use both right and left shift when necessary lol

[hoary zodiac]

There's a page up and page down key on my keyboard?

WHAT

[craggy shoal]

lmaooo

[hoary zodiac]

AHAHAHAHHA

I'VE USED THIS KEYBOARD FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR

[craggy shoal]

this guy should've just gotten the K12 💀

[hoary zodiac]

Man that would've been useful when i was rebinding keys because I thought there were no page up and down

This whole time it was right in front of me

My hands never touched those three keys

[craggy shoal]

Yeah that's why I got my V7 (customizability plus it's basically a condensed TKL)

[hoary zodiac]

But anyways the main annoyance with a 65% is the function keys

I have to hold down fn1 or fn2 to access certain keys

Makes alt+f4 a bit annoying

[craggy shoal]

yes that's the issue I have with my V4 and V7

no sixth row

[hoary zodiac]

Since I have to physically move my hand off my mouse

To press that key

Or awkwardly reach my thumb over to it

[craggy shoal]

I wish there were an extra function key on the left side just for extra flexibility

[hoary zodiac]

Ong

But otherwise

Excellent keyboard

Especially for how much it cost me

It was cheaper than my previous keyboard

And arguably superior in quality

[craggy shoal]

The thing that I don't like about my V3 though is that I only get 4 layers, unlike my V4 and V7, which are both smaller, but they get 5 layers each

[craggy shoal]

What's your previous keyboard?

[hoary zodiac]

Some asus

[craggy shoal]

Bro

that's what I've been saying

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah you see the problem here

Ahhaha

[craggy shoal]

These niche-ish brands are way better for the same price or cheaper than all the main brands

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

The build quality is so nice

For how much i paid for it

Even has detachable cable and bluetooth