general-chat

[sweet phoenix]

Ah alr

[sinful blade]

I looked into a b450
Unfortunately shipping was the same cost as buying one of the mb I got

[surreal kernel]

I bought my b550 for 170

get on my level

frfr

[crude wolf]

asus?

gigabyte?

or a aorus motherboard

[idle nexus]

Gigabyte=Aorus

[sweet phoenix]

Only b550 I've bought was $40

[surreal kernel]

aorus

[crude wolf]

ok

[surreal kernel]

^

[sinful blade]

My old pc was mostly gigabyte stuff

[surreal kernel]

mine was asus

[sinful blade]

I have a second PSU(on accident) for MY build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CZsZ34

[idle nexus]

"on accident" does kinda make sense as the opposite of "on purpose." I can't find a great explanation as to why it's technically "by accident" tho

[sinful blade]

My MIL bought them through Newegg, and she ordered 2 and never noticed

[velvet summit]

how the hell do i do this lmfao

[atomic current]

Prog

[mental yoke]

how do I avoid MSI Afterburner from doing something like this

[pliant berry]

that's the rtss app. I would just turn it off completely unless you actually need it for diagnostics. There might be a per app setting for it but I can't rememebr

[rancid juniper]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-may-have-a-new-platform-for-upcoming-ryzen-cpus

tf, we doing AM3+ all over again

😳

[unreal trail]

[atomic current]

Can't wait for Phenom VII X6 600 black edition

[mighty hazel]

“Buy am5 muh upgrade path”

But why make a new one

Does it not have enough pins or

[wary fjord]

Hmm

It seems like they just thinking thats the case xD

Am5+ is not on amds roadmap.

But if thats the case still xD sad am5 users.

U only need to change mobo for starter.. since am5 will be compatible in a am5+ I think.. but not vice versa..

Same as am3+ and am3 situation..

U can delay your cpu upgrade xD

[icy ore]

Still stuck on a lame ol 9900k smh

[pliant berry]

hey it's not so bad 🙂

[rancid juniper]

was about to say that too

[wary fjord]

what u mean lame xD 9900k pog

nvm i change my mind

its quite close to my 3600 xD

with higher tdp and higher price but again its older gen that doesnt matter maybe up to 14900k soon?

[obsidian berry]

What game is that?

[atomic current]

It's the game

[wary fjord]

i dont get it

https://tenor.com/view/head-scratcher-confused-perplexed-huh-clash-with-cam-gif-10198268

[tranquil pebble]

out of order execution stuff

its a pun

[wary fjord]

arm is the future go brrr

[tranquil pebble]

It could be... if ARM doesn't do a stupid that ruins it.

If they push too hard on the licensing fees, it might be RISC-V instead

[wary fjord]

they are not stupid even if they get vuln in the future

its called oversight

like none of them thought it could happen its an avoidable

[rancid juniper]

the last of us part 1

[wary fjord]

cant wait for part 2

i dont want to buy console xd i just gonna wait it on pc

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[wary fjord]

or i could play it on ps3 but the graphics 😦

[rancid juniper]

Lol

[wary fjord]

im already pampered with the pc version graphics

[mental yoke]

I’m currently working on revamping the pc and the console setups

[wary fjord]

im making my pc a console

xD

[rancid juniper]

Real

It's crazy how emu development has drastically slowed down after the x360

Only now have we seen a PS4 emulator in its very early stage

Console came out over 10 years ago lol

[wary fjord]

stage of emulator they start by emulating rpg games at 1st .. focus on it for a year xD because those takes less shader to run.

shader supports what slows down the emu

[rancid juniper]

Or any other light 2d game

Like sonic mania

[wary fjord]

because in day 1 any game thats new release wont boot

unless they update their emu to work on it

[rancid juniper]

Switch emu happened the same year correct?

[wary fjord]

u know what i have huge respect on people making emu xD they really have to tear up their hardware

pun some jumper pins on it

just to see how it works

input output

must much on their software side

[rancid juniper]

And the programming...

Ludicrous

It's gotta suck when your project gets shut down by some company

All that work, vanished in a day

[idle nexus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghT7G_9xyDU

impressive for 2017 flagship

[mortal grail]

Wait until you see the cheaper, similar time period 5700XT

Often selling for $120

[rancid juniper]

RDNA1 was unique after vega

Legit dunno what vega is really meant for

Probably a highly experimental card

[viral heron]

How much joules should I get?

[velvet summit]

Depends on how valuable the thing you want to protect is
My personal formula is like 1 joules of protection per $2

[viral heron]

Idk how to calculate that tbh, this is my PC. I just want tt to be 100% safe against a surge. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bbxmHG

[velvet summit]

There's never a 100% protection
But proper quality surge protectors often give you insurance for up to their rated capacity

And will replace your equipment if it fails to protect against a surge of that amount

[viral heron]

What does the Joule amount do to protect it?

Is that like how much surge it can take?

[velvet summit]

Yes

And most can only protect against a short surge of less than like a second or smth like that

There are some surge protectors that can protect against power surges that happen for a long period of time

But those are extra expensive

[proud jackal]

whats a good brand of clear loop cooling liquid brand/model

[velvet summit]

Water
By god

[wary fjord]

u mean

[tranquil pebble]

Dihydrogen Monoxide

[mortal grail]

https://download.alphacool.com/legacy/ENG_1021158_Alphacool_Apex_Liquid_ECO_1000ml_clear_Datasheet.pdf

Make this at home using supermarket and ebay ingredients

Otherwise you're paying like

$30 a litre

[proud jackal]

too late

i ordered

[mortal grail]

This is in comparison like $3

per litre

well

rip

Lol

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-laugh-gif-14348867

[mortal grail]

That's like

The same I paid for 10L

lmao

[mortal grail]

200mL might only fill your reservior btw

[proud jackal]

[torpid kiln]

What would be the right channel for asking for help regarding overheating? (Sorry to interject)

[proud jackal]

w-what

[mortal grail]

My loop takes something like 700mL

[proud jackal]

its concentrate

[mortal grail]

oh fair

So you gotta buy even more then

[proud jackal]

just distilled water

1:5 ratio

[mortal grail]

So you have enough for 1.2L

ok that might work

Still expensive tho

[proud jackal]

1.5L

[mortal grail]

1:5 is 6 part

[proud jackal]

1250ml water + 250 ml concentrate

[mortal grail]

that's loop cleaner

[proud jackal]

oh nvm

im dumb

[mortal grail]

💀

[proud jackal]

you should like come over

[mortal grail]

Have a look at the link I sent tho

[proud jackal]

and drain this gg pc for me

uwu

[mortal grail]

I'll drain it if I get to take part of it home

[proud jackal]

i need biocide too

[mortal grail]

yes

Glycol + Stabiliser is the inhibitor

I've used it in my loop for a long time now, no issues

It's just way cheaper to homebrew it

I ain't payin like, $50, then $50 in shipping on top

for 1L

Watercooling is cringe af here, unless you can find the ultra cheap stuff in the right places

[proud jackal]

unfortunately if i want to make the ggf pc usable again i need to do all this cooling crap

since im draining everything and not using blue coolant anymore

[mortal grail]

ye I heard

lol

[proud jackal]

i just want to rma 14900k

[mortal grail]

rip GGF build

does he know what happeneD?

[proud jackal]

i msged him, no answer

its fine

everything is fine

[idle nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/holdon-toyourbutts-jurassicpark-gif-4858777

[wary fjord]

ooo i found some Thermoplastic xD i can now fix the crack on my headphone

i use yarn to bind it xD so the crack wont spread

[idle nexus]

wow that came loose really easily... weird

[viral heron]

I was talking to my buddy who's an electrician and he said that I'd need a 1500w UPS to protect my PC from a surge and anything below that is useless. That's like $500 tho 😅 what do you guys have your PCs plugged into?

[idle nexus]

your computer needs 12.5 amps?

[mortal grail]

A power board

And a three phase surge protected main line

[viral heron]

My PSU is 850w idk how to calculate it

[mortal grail]

850W/115V

though transients so you should do more like 1000W

[wary fjord]

surge is rated by joules xD dont matter about the w part i think

it was labeled on the box

how much it can handle

[viral heron]

I have my pc plugged into just a normal wall outlet rn which is 110v which I was told was kinda stupid

[wary fjord]

what w matter is on how long it can sustain ur pc during battery mode

large the longer of course

my pc only eats 250 on the wall xD maybe 300 if i play triple a games

xD

[viral heron]

Do I need a UPS or can I just use a surge protector? A $15 Amazon surge protector has a higher joule rating than the $500 ups I saw

[wary fjord]

why stupid?

[viral heron]

Cuz I don't have any protection apparently

Also is it safe since my pc is 850w but the outlet is 110v?

Idk I'm rlly dumb

[wary fjord]

its optional tho xD unless you work from home?

[viral heron]

Some days

[wary fjord]

people that work at home really need ups unless u can tell your boss that power went out.. ill be back a bit

xD

[velvet summit]

ups and surge protectors do seperate tasks, and both are important imo

[wary fjord]

dint we talk about this like yesterday?

im having dejavu

[viral heron]

Yeah we did lol

[velvet summit]

ups prevents short power outages from making you lose your work, and need to restart, or corrupt files due to the system suddenly shutting down
surge protectors prevent things from being overvolted and get destroyed

[viral heron]

Yeah I just care about the not being destroyed part.

Idrc if I lose all my files tbh

[velvet summit]

power surges happen less in my area, so a UPS is more important to me

[wary fjord]

ups provide clean power output for your beloved pc

[velvet summit]

not really

[wary fjord]

some ups has that

has rating for it

[velvet summit]

most consumer UPSs are line interactive, so they dont do any power filtering under normal use

[viral heron]

So if a surge happened and I didn't have a UPS but a surge protector would my pc be safe in the sense it would still work but I might need to like fac reset?

[wary fjord]

yeah

still nice to have

just get ups dude

hahaha

[velvet summit]

depends
anywhere from your os being corrupted due to like, a system update happening at that moment, to it just being completely fine

[wary fjord]

i think u really want it

get something like this its cheap and its puresinewave

mine is cheap.. its not pure on battery mode xD

its fine i just need it for shutdown

[viral heron]

I spent so much money on my pc I don't really want to drop another $500 unless my pc is at risk of breaking entirely tbh lol

[idle nexus]

Much easier than 13900KS was

[tranquil pebble]

PowerMac G5 is probably the coolest sounding computer I've heard but its loud as heck lol

[velvet summit]

personally speaking, just from a convenience standpoint, a UPS is absolutely worth it, but if you dont want to spend the money on the UPS immediately, the surge protector is definitely a good investment

[wary fjord]

ups is insurance

ups comes with surge now adays ..

what u need to avoid is

plug surge to another surge protection

xD

i dont know why but they say dont

[viral heron]

Idk if you can see this but

[viral heron]

This is one I had lying around. Does this work. I think it says max watts 1850

[velvet summit]

hmm
eaton and some other companies recommend it

you just need a good quality one

[velvet summit]

might just be the current rating

not the surge protection rating

[wary fjord]

hmm 16A

[velvet summit]

those cheap "surge protectors" aren't reliable as far as im aware, and also dont provide any insurance

they also often avoid the term surge protector

it seems like APC is the one saying that you shouldn't put it on a surge protector
though APC is more of a consumer/small-medium business brand

so they might be worried that some people may use low quality surge protectors?

[wary fjord]

Redundancy

if ups already has it

[viral heron]

I'd be willing to buy that APC one I linked earlier if that would protect my PC from getting destroyed

[velvet summit]

nah, redundancy is good, the reasoning APC put was that the surge protector might not have a good ground

but any good surge protector should have been fine

[wary fjord]

surge protection that says... "made in china" and "military grade" xD

quite sus sometimes

[wary fjord]

no no xD cyberpower gang xD

jk apc is fine i just dont have experience with them

let me know

[viral heron]

The cyber power one I saw was like $500 😭😭

I'll spend like 150 max

Idk I'll prolly just end up going with the APC one, it's prolly better than what I have now at least which is nothing

[wary fjord]

150 wont enough to get u a puresinewave ups but ok

xD

[velvet summit]

A UPS is designed to provide backup power when main power fails and provide low-level, minor transient protection. Significant surge events, such as a lightning strike, are beyond the capacity of a UPS to manage. The best way to divert this excess energy and dissipate its harmful effects is to do so before it gets to the UPS. All major surge events should be handled before reaching the UPS input side. Placing a surge suppressor in front of the UPS isolates it and its connected equipment from major surge events.

[wary fjord]

i hope ur psu is not bothered with it

[velvet summit]

just get a good surge protector for that then

[viral heron]

Is there a required wattage/amps/volts/joules I still don't know the difference 😭😭

This more confusing than building my pc for the first time

[velvet summit]

you dont need to worry about the amps or volts, since they should all be able to handle 120v15a

at minimum

[wary fjord]

some psu has this active fpc .. when u have simulated sinewave.. it think those gap are "power outage" xD but some psu even with active fps can handle it.. depends on the implementation

[velvet summit]

you just want to look at the supression rating and how long it can handle, and also what type of power surges are most likely to happen

[agile pendant]

ordered a backordered card and it got delayed multiple times and is now out of stock

should I cancel the order or just wait?

[random osprey]

if the order was confirmed, then just wait unless you need a card like within the next day or two

[viral heron]

https://www.amazon.com/Protector-TROND-Widely-Spaced-Expansion-Low-Profile/dp/B08BJWRZGY/ref=mp_s_a_1_6_sspa?crid=1NN8U7Z5AGE9K&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.K1upo6JNcjrvn0PZoQuBEGNf5ZCXOikKAP7ejPwgyx3KEfU8wyHiwW_KXpexdFR1dvViIMoFW9rCg_xboKuBQ36ElPFKCir-A4sL0aPgNIWA81HbRtVUY5F5zQjgzq6M5wOx3t8eIIIfnujdB5O7tweyrniEtI1Lyl8JI4K5jP4hVot0lMjTF4EVg1wj1aibKDJmPeDGaqbVTZ9TLpFnhw.9s9jNHiAZwuCgoWOcfsHPIANBNk5h00zOm1eyz1gRB4&dib_tag=se&keywords=surge+protector+power+strip&qid=1712463645&sprefix=surge+p%2Caps%2C121&sr=8-6-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfbXRm&psc=1

This work?

[velvet summit]

I would use a more reputable brand

[viral heron]

Who's the best

[velvet summit]

https://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-Protector-Right-Angle-ISOBAR6ULTRA/dp/B0000513US/ here, idk if it's the best or anything but at least it's from a brand that has existed for decades, and is owned by eaton

And unlike the one you sent, I'm fairly confident that this should actually handle the rated surge

[wary fjord]

$50,000 Insurance sheesh

[velvet summit]

there are some with higher

but there is fine text

the insurance only applies if the surge protector fails at UNDER the surge suppression rating

[viral heron]

Yeah that def looks better. It says 120v tho and my outlets are 110v is that a problem or just how much it could take

[idle nexus]

110v-120v is standard

[viral heron]

Also what's the max wattage? I don't see it. Would I be able to plug my pc, 2 monitors, and a light into it?

[wary fjord]

240v gang xD

[idle nexus]

well a standard 110v or 120v wall plug in the US is on either a 15amp or a 20amp breaker

what might help you to know is part of Ohm's law

Watts = Amps x Volts

so the max wattage on a 15amp breaker is either
W = 15amps x 110v
W = 15amps x 120v

20amp would be
W = 20amps x 110v
W = 20amps x 120v

[viral heron]

Does every outlet have its own breaker?

[wary fjord]

oo so my 10A is 2400w

[idle nexus]

so 1650w, 1800w, 2200w, & 2400w respectively

[idle nexus]

typically not

there are some things that by code are supposed to

[viral heron]

I think my kitchen and bathrooms do

Idk bout rooms tho

[idle nexus]

for example, I think in new construction a refrigerator should have a dedicated circuit

kitchens & bathrooms often do

kitchens should be 12awg & get a 20amp breaker since that's where you tend to use a lot of power for microwaves, toasters, etc.

other circuits use 14awg & get a 15amp breaker

the easiest way to tell if your outlet is 15 or 20 amps (if actually done correctly) is to look at the neutral connection

[sinful blade]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/XFX-SPEEDSTER-SWFT319-AMD-Radeon-RX-6800-CORE-Gaming-Graphics-Card/5290523217

Have 6800s been $380 for a while?

[idle nexus]

a sideways T for the neutral means it's a 20 amp breaker

btw that applies whether the duplex receptacle is decora (rectangular one in the picture) or the regular type like

[wary fjord]

the hell is this sorcery xD

theres a cross on it

[idle nexus]

that means it's supposed to be for a 20 amp circuit

[viral heron]

Yeah all mine are just normal

[wary fjord]

that looks fancy

[viral heron]

So I guess 15

[idle nexus]

cuz technically, an appliance that can run up to 20 amps should have a plug in part that looks like this

[wary fjord]

the diff on 10a to 15a i think is the thiccness. because when i plug 10a prong to a 15a it just slide off xD

[idle nexus]

so it can't be used on a 15amp circuit

[mortal grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/835557783621337139/1226378101462667395/IMG_4612.jpg?ex=66248c9c&is=6612179c&hm=e4651bd3a0aa49231fe373c0046826ade4c0201853b6a0c632a6c3d83d8d9504&

[idle nexus]

you can check your panel. The amperage for each breaker is written on it

[viral heron]

Ight. Is there a way to tell if all the outlets in my room are on the same breaker?

I have 4 one on each wall

I use a window ac unit in the summer, I haven't used one with my new pc yet tho and I know those take a ton of power

[idle nexus]

the point being, I dunno much about UPSs, but I do know that 1500w is a lot of watts lol

technically 1500w is like two horsepower lol

[idle nexus]

they only take a ton of power to start the motor inside of it

& not really because it needs a lot of power to start, but because it's driven by magnets & for like a fraction of a second before the magnets energize, there's basically no resistance

do you frequently lose power??

[viral heron]

Nah not really, every so often couple times a year they'll be a storm which knocks down a tree on my road or something for a couple days

[idle nexus]

ah okay

[viral heron]

Knock on wood hasn't happened in a couple years but on average I'd say it's like twice a year usually

[idle nexus]

what tasks are you primarily trying to back up?

[viral heron]

I just don't want my pc to get destroyed by a surge

[idle nexus]

it's generally pretty mediocre but OneDrive auto save on Word, Excel, etc. has bailed me out of some crappy situations

[viral heron]

Idc about data or anything as long as my pc itself stays safe and doesn't break

[idle nexus]

can't you use a typical surge protector? like power strip type thing?

[viral heron]

Yeah probably this, but all the wattage and joules and circuit breaker stuff is confusing 😭

[idle nexus]

lol oh ya they use joules for UPSs don't they

heckers make it even more complicated

[wispy wedge]

sad winky 😦

[viral heron]

I think that one is good enough but now I'm concerned that my total power will exceed the circuits for the outlets in my room

Especially if I have a window AC during the summer

[wispy wedge]

i mean if that happens the circuit breaker will just trip, so it should fail safe

[viral heron]

I've had a dehumidifier window AC and my old pc on at the same time before and everything was fine so idk

[viral heron]

Oh ok good to know.

[idle nexus]

😑

[wispy wedge]

circuit breaker is designed to be the lowest "specced" element of the wiring—the physical connections, wires, in a properly-built household can exceed their max amperage by a decent margin and be fine

wouldn't rely on it day-to-day, but, you should be good

[idle nexus]

you could plug a light into the outlet & turn it on then go to the panel & find the breaker that turns off the light

then plug the light into different outlets in the same room & see if any turn it on

[wispy wedge]

^

[idle nexus]

if it turns on while the breaker for the other one is off, you have multiple circuits in the room

[idle nexus]

ya exactly. Code requires 14awg is on 15A breaker; 12awg is on 20A breaker; & 10awg is on 30A breaker

[weak cedar]

they should always because of the motor startup

[idle nexus]

if you look at the NEC ampacity chart tho

14awg is good for 25A; 12 for 30A; & 10 for 40A

[weak cedar]

most factories will have this, this is basically what we use for everything besides APC

[idle nexus]

because they know people tend to rig things up in their homes, they make electricians waste copper lol

[weak cedar]

also depends on waht year the house was made as well if it's a house 😅 the one we just bought what fun

[wispy wedge]

brb setting up an arc welder in my kitchen

[weak cedar]

my dad when we redid the house which he bought in 1994 he redid the house from cloth wire and installed 12awg is on 20A breaker for all lines 😅

but for the furnace and ac

[idle nexus]

lol true because aluminum has lower ampacity & older wire has crappy insulation lol

[weak cedar]

what insulation 💀

[idle nexus]

THHN (standard) is rated to 90C but old wire is rated as low as 60C

[idle nexus]

lol you had super old school knob & tube???

[weak cedar]

just after that although there was remints of the knob & tube still in the house

[idle nexus]

run wires in pipe? grounding/bonding? decent insulation? NAAAH

[weak cedar]

we had the wiring after that

[idle nexus]

just... just put some ceramic crap so it doesn't set wood on fire np

ah the aluminum cloth wire?

[weak cedar]

ya

it looked like this

[idle nexus]

that stuff sucks for many reasons, not the least of which is copper & aluminum don't like to hang out together so you need special wire nuts called alumicons to connect them together

lol ya I'm glad you replaced that

[weak cedar]

and newspaper for wall insualtion 🙃

[chrome mirage]

The wiring in my house came from a lumber mill that was demolished 20 years ago

[idle nexus]

there are these panels... I think they're called FPE or something that if you buy a house & it has FPE panels, you won't get a mortgage because you can't get homeowner's insurance if you don't replace them

[weak cedar]

the house was only around 3k when he bought it so ya..

[idle nexus]

Zinsco no good either

https://homeinspectioninsider.com/federal-pacific-panel/

heck

[chrome mirage]

I think I might have to send some of these wiring pictures to my uncle. He does inspections on that kind of stuff.

[idle nexus]

you know what's kinda weird to me

[weak cedar]

o wait the house was built in 1940

[idle nexus]

to use various materials (panels, breakers, conduit, wire, etc.) for electrical work, they have to have UL certification

guess who makes 3dmark

[weak cedar]

huu

[wispy wedge]

if you're building a house these days, whats the recmmended standard to install for ethernet?

is it still cat 5e?

[idle nexus]

Underwriter's Laboratory. same company

[elfin mural]

cat 5e is fine

[idle nexus]

ngl I dunno code for data

it's a lot less strict than for electrical tho lol

also, it's against code for different voltages to share the same box

[weak cedar]

maybe in the city for Cat 6a but you never will get to 10gb a sec

[idle nexus]

so data heckers take up all the good spots for boxes? you're hecked

[wispy wedge]

i mean if i had the money i'd probably do conduit with pull cables

[weak cedar]

although it might be possible now for fiber

[wispy wedge]

true, seems to be coming down in price

[weak cedar]

https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/new-speed-record-optical-fiber-cable

[chrome mirage]

My uncle is an electrician and his last name is a term used when talking about electricity. I'm not going to say his last name since he's the first person that shows up when you search it.

[wispy wedge]

Nominative Determinism in action once again!

[idle nexus]

conduit is great for upgrading later

[idle nexus]

your uncle is Mike Holt!? lol

[wispy wedge]

Billy Joule

[weak cedar]

ohm 😁

[velvet summit]

ohm my god

[weak cedar]

hay might be related

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/azumanga-azumanga-daioh-azumanga-osaka-osaka-ayumu-kusaga-gif-20344215

[elfin mural]

I just noticed there's a new wegg staff on discord

[chrome mirage]

No, he's not a well known person but he is pretty high up at a big electrical company

[weak cedar]

opps added a E 😅

[idle nexus]

ah okay

I dunno the electrical field that well

plus I've been out of it since mid-2020 lol

[idle nexus]

Pike? lol

[chrome mirage]

Nope

[wispy wedge]

Well, E=W/Q is a good start

[chrome mirage]

He does electrical inspections

[idle nexus]

I was gonna apply to Pike. You can make six figures doing line work

if working around up to 500,000 volts doesn't bother you

[idle nexus]

I just remembered "W=AV" & moved around the numbers accordingly lol

[elfin mural]

https://www.gizmochina.com/2024/04/06/msi-mag-321upx-affordable-qd-oled-specs-price/

damn

900 for 4k oled

factory calibrated

this is basically a professional monitor with gamer specs

[idle nexus]

I never really learned much about resistance. it matters a lot in DC I think but AC doesn't matter except like ground rods have to be below a certain resistance or something

[idle nexus]

just gotta remember this thing

[chrome mirage]

I actually don't know who my uncle works for. I just know that he makes a lot of money and is very respected in his line of work.

[elfin mural]

My brain would forget all that within a day

[velvet summit]

just remember the important ones

[chrome mirage]

Only time I learned any of that was in auto shop in highschool and we only used like 2 of them

[idle nexus]

could isntall one of these lol https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-15-Amp-Commercial-Grade-Tamper-Resistant-Decora-Duplex-Outlet-with-Surge-Suppressor-White-R00-T5280-00W/206126043

[velvet summit]

or really, get an electrician to install a whole-home surge supressor

[viral heron]

That looks great but I'm too dumb for that 😂

[idle nexus]

just knowing P=ExI gets you thru like 98% of things

[velvet summit]

fr

[idle nexus]

most code is pretty intuitive too ig

like need GFCIs near water source

[velvet summit]

i remember it as P=IV tbh

[elfin mural]

most houses here in thailand have trash ground lmao

[velvet summit]

or whole home gfci
i forget the name, it's not called gfci though iirc

[elfin mural]

i get slightly shocked when i plug in usb devices into my laptop while it's plugged in

[chrome mirage]

I didn't realize how expensive houses in big cities are till I visited my rich uncle's house and noticed it's the same size as my house.

[velvet summit]

have you considered that you are the bad ground

[idle nexus]

actually nvm, no it's not. how many wires can go inside a 3/4" EMT conduit? heckin voltage drop. Every electrician has a code book in their truck cuz remembering it all is impossible lol

[elfin mural]

maybe

[idle nexus]

I think newer code requires AFCI (Arc Fault Circuit Interrupter) in bedrooms or something

[elfin mural]

idk tbh

i moved to various different places in the country

still same issue

[velvet summit]

idk old or new code so i cant say if you're correct or not lmfao

[elfin mural]

no matter which device

[idle nexus]

lol that's not good. Maybe you have strong load imbalance causing backfeed on the neutral

or bonding is not good

[velvet summit]

foxy is just a really good capacitor

[elfin mural]

lol

[idle nexus]

or some hecker installed the green screw in your panel even tho it's only supposed to be installed if the panel is the FIRST DISCONNECTING MEANS

lol no one understands that for some reason I swear

like ya just put all the neutrals & grounds on the same bar no big deal

[weak cedar]

the house we bought i kinda don't want to mess with it

[idle nexus]

lol don't unless you have to

[chrome mirage]

I was working at a Chevy dealership and the laptop at the oil change station would zap you if you got within a cm of the tool box it was on

[wispy wedge]

asbestos insulation?

[idle nexus]

it's heckin dangerous

[elfin mural]

i see electricians do that all the time

ground? no, just wrap tape around it

it's not even connected to the ground

[idle nexus]

if you're getting zapped, it means there's stray current that should be causing a breaker to trip but it has no low impedance path back to the source

[weak cedar]

This

[topaz sage]

suh

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/high-voltage-voltage-electricity-arc-gif-20386887

[elfin mural]

it's like a very little zap

but enough for my body to not like it

[weak cedar]

There's also another 240? breaker to the garage

[idle nexus]

that's not bad. Is that an ATS? fancyyy

[velvet summit]

damn i assume you got a standby generator

[idle nexus]

(Automatic Transfer Switch for a generator)

[elfin mural]

i also get noise when i used a phone with headphone jack

[weak cedar]

Ya it came with the house with the solar system

[elfin mural]

plugging headphones in while it's charging causes noise lmao

[idle nexus]

lol all those pretty nice panels & the heckin light is plugged into a receptacle at the bottom of the panel all not safe

[velvet summit]

stop capacitoring so much LMFAO

[idle nexus]

Eddy currents love Foxy ig

[velvet summit]

1 farad rated capacitor:

[elfin mural]

LOL

[weak cedar]

Ya don't know why they put ot that close

[elfin mural]

idk what's even wrong at this point

im probably a capacitor

[gentle canyon]

if it rains during totality on monday i will lose it

[elfin mural]

living capacitor with flesh and skin

[idle nexus]

the other day I had to figure out why a 120/208 3-phase delta system with a high leg gave me 208v to ground on phase B but still gave me 208v from phase to phase

something about triangles & transformer windings

[velvet summit]

i mean, everyone has capacitence, you just have a strange amount of static lmfao

[elfin mural]

perhaps

[velvet summit]

i mean, sometimes you just need power

[idle nexus]

if you wear like sandals with socks in a very low humidity place

that's cold

you're basically a taser

[elfin mural]

thailand is a pretty humid country

[velvet summit]

i have an outlet like 10cm away from the breaker panel as well

[elfin mural]

i think that has to do with it

and my hands often are sweaty

[velvet summit]

though without conduit, it's all just bare romex

[weak cedar]

Coaxial cables is another story as well

[velvet summit]

well, not bare, just uncovered

[idle nexus]

lol romex isn't legal in commercial applications

I never liked romex. It's so hard to make it look nice

[velvet summit]

lmao

i can assure you that it doesnt look nice in my house either

the spiderwebs dont help

lol

[idle nexus]

lol Romex is basically a glorified extension cord tbh

[velvet summit]

lmao

[idle nexus]

not talking crap about your electrical system, it's probably in like every house in the US

[velvet summit]

yeah i wouldnt say that my electrical system in my house is great

[weak cedar]

this one is in the garage with no cover..

[idle nexus]

I do kinda like Romex tho cuz it almost always has solid wire in

[velvet summit]

damn

460v garage opener

[idle nexus]

& solid wire is a lot easier to make it look good inside a panel

[velvet summit]

wait

[weak cedar]

Giant pool though and pump system

[velvet summit]

oh nvm im just reading words that dont exist lmao

[idle nexus]

it's funny cuz like most of construction, when people do it really well it's just to flex on the other trades

cuz the owners don't care

& often don't ever see it

[velvet summit]

how do you get 460v service

[elfin mural]

i wonder what does 48v car electronics system even benefit em

[velvet summit]

unless that is a commercial building

[idle nexus]

lol what the heck? your main feeders are like 4/0 or larger for that tiny panel

[weak cedar]

The ones who built house where Rich then 2 or 3 families down let it rot and turned the sub pumps off when it flooded or before it did

[idle nexus]

in USA it's 277/480v

I think Canada has a system that has over 500 or something crazy

you don't want a 277/480 service tho cuz you'd need a transformer for everything but like your lights lol

[velvet summit]

i see 480v at the factory i worked at, but never in a residential building

[weak cedar]

This house isn't normal

[velvet summit]

yeah it's just such a high voltage lmao

[idle nexus]

ya it's great to have 277/480 for big machines

cuz you can run high wattage with lower amperage

save on wires lol

what I never understood is why they haven't slowly tried to move to three-phase systems for residential power

three-phase is more efficient

[velvet summit]

complexity of balancing iirc

[idle nexus]

ya that actually does make a lot of sense lol

dunno why I never thought of that

[weak cedar]

wait theres even more 2 breaker boxes outside is one for outputting on solar?

[idle nexus]

plus if you have three-phase power with a motor that uses all three phases, you have to get phase rotation correct or you could make the motor spin backwards

[velvet summit]

ah yes the scary noise of wrong rotation of an AC compressor

[idle nexus]

eh that looks like a main disconnect & a meter missing the meter part

[weak cedar]

its on another pole

[velvet summit]

probably replaced

old one was probably analog

[idle nexus]

I'm old enough to remember when the power company actually sent someone to read your meter

[velvet summit]

they still did that for mine

[weak cedar]

They still do here

[velvet summit]

in the winter you can see the footprints of someone wading through the snow to our meter lol

[weak cedar]

Well no not maybe few months ago it was changed

I usally said hello to the guy

[idle nexus]

really? I thought they just read it remotely somehow

[weak cedar]

ya with the new meters, ours was changed last year

[velvet summit]

they havent changed my meter at my house afaik

so it's the same one from like a decade ago

and maybe longer? idk, it's digital

though somebody comes to check

i've never seen the person come to check

just the footprints

[sudden lantern]

Almost all devices would have to have a phase monitor/sensor built in to them. And then a switch to switch two phases out if it didn’t match how your home has it

[idle nexus]

do they have to read it monthly?

[idle nexus]

really? hmm I figured since you still get 120v on a single phase it wouldn't really matter. ig you do lose like 32v phase to phase tho

[weak cedar]

supposed to 😅 they where kinda just estimating for a long time where i live although i forget how they do it but ya after new meters, price rose

[idle nexus]

cuz phase to phase voltage on single phase is just PA voltage + PB voltage but it's like A+B times square root of three or something I forget

lol

[weak cedar]

now we have peak time and low times now started last month

[sudden lantern]

If you were using a single phase device it wouldn’t matter, only if you wanted to use a three phase motor or something

[idle nexus]

in my parents' neighborhood awhile back they swapped all the high pressure sodium street lights to LEDs. That sounds great but the light output sucks

[velvet summit]

if we did have 3 phase as standard for every outlet, i'd imagine the wiring to have been standardized to be in a specific phase rotation, with a specific outlet type for ensuring the proper phase wiring and connection

[idle nexus]

ah okay I figure what @velvet summit said was a big reason. on a single-phase system your 2-pole for your oven is like 50A so when the oven is on you'd have high draw on like phase A & B but not C

[sudden lantern]

Or an air conditioner/heat pump. Helped install one at work where it came with a phase monitor, and it prevented the heat pump from running when the phases were wrong

[idle nexus]

oh nice

I remember installing generators we'd have to test phase rotation from the utility company for like elevators & what not & make sure the rotation matched on backup power

[velvet summit]

no idea why it doesnt seem standardized, every single installation of 3 phase devices i've seen always requires the installer to check to see the phase rotation on the wires

[sudden lantern]

That would be the ideal scenario

[idle nexus]

does anyone else's discord mobile app randomly like tell you what people you often interact with are talking about in [whatever] channel

I find it strange lol

[wispy wedge]

I think it's an AI thing for mods on android?

[tranquil pebble]

its not just for mods

[wispy wedge]

ah ok. I've never seen it, but i'm on ios

[tranquil pebble]

I find it annoying

[idle nexus]

is it? I just noticed it a few days ago & it tells me about other discords where I'm just a member

[velvet summit]

also tbf they could design (and they might already exist) ovens that use 3 phase balanced, but that also poses problems like, now the companies need to design devices that balance the load on all 3 phases as well, so we're just shifting the effort to other people, which still means more cost

you can disable it in settings

or something

per server basis

[sudden lantern]

Thinking about it, it would be really inconvenient for the power company to get three phases to everything. Currently they can run three phases on poles down a main road and split a single phase down the side streets, but with all the phases it means more wiring and more work, and more expensive transformers

[tranquil pebble]

yeah I did that... had to manually disable for each of 200 servers... annoying

[velvet summit]

also yeah more wires required

well, iirc in european countries, it's more common to see 3 phase in houses?

or maybe those were still just apartment complexes

[idle nexus]

I wonder how long the cost would take to be offset by the power savings you get from three-phase

heck I dunno

I think Europe uses pretty high voltage no?

[velvet summit]

i mean, considering that power costs like pennies where i live, probably not enough to be worth it, at least not for like 5-10 years at least

[idle nexus]

I know like Japan uses only 100v & iirc, that's only for like half the country too

[wispy wedge]

230-240V single phase iirc for eu?

[sudden lantern]

Think about if you had say a vacuum or something, three phases, wye windings. That’s five wires you’d have to have at a recep. Three phases, neutral, and equipment ground

[wispy wedge]

we're 230V here in AU/NZ

[velvet summit]

would you need a neutral for a vacuum

[idle nexus]

eh it has a spinning motor

[weak cedar]

640v 💀

[sudden lantern]

Depends if it’s perfectly balanced three phases

[velvet summit]

hmm

[sudden lantern]

I guess it probably would be

[velvet summit]

actually, do you even need to have a ground for a plastic body vacuum cleaner

[sudden lantern]

Delta goes phase to phase

[idle nexus]

I wish USA used 240 per phase so I could get bigger PSU lol

[velvet summit]

most single phase vacuums i've used are just the 2 prong

[idle nexus]

oh but doesn't Europe use 30hz or something

[weak cedar]

i do have to say its kinda nice to have solar

[idle nexus]

er maybe 50hz

[velvet summit]

50 sounds more right

[sudden lantern]

Really? The ones I’ve used (metal Kirby at home, and others for janitorial work) had equipment grounds

[velvet summit]

*plastic

commercial ones with metal exteriors have grounds yeah

[sudden lantern]

Oh 🤦‍♂️

[velvet summit]

i've used like 1 commercial grade metal vacuum and like 20 different consumer grade plastic vacuums lmao

[idle nexus]

I forget but what the heck difference does that make anyway? I know hertz is how many times the electrical charge goes from positive to negative or something like that (hence "alternating" current) but

[velvet summit]

motor speed in the case of 3 phase

i think?

though i guess that depends on the winding configuration?

hmm i actually have no clue about this lmao

[sudden lantern]

Yes- different windings have different speeds under the same loads, but theoretically by changing the hertz you can change the speeds. Motors designed for VFDs are just that, the variable frequency drive takes the 60hz in, turns it into DC, and modulates out a sine wave at whatever hertz you choose

[velvet summit]

outside of that though, are there any other differences

[sudden lantern]

Differences in what?

I’m going to bed I’ll read again in the morning 👋

[atomic current]

https://tenor.com/view/a-bueno-adiós-máster-gif-14202693814841203579

[velvet summit]

devices using 50hz vs 60hz

on 3 phase specifically

[elfin mural]

stock market is ironic

"oh no it lost 3%, we're doomed"

i guess being one yacht short of money is bad

https://www.gizmochina.com/2024/03/31/lenovo-cobalt-co-45-intel-core-i5-gtx-1660ti-for-560/

huh

china only

[idle nexus]

lol uh https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/mainboard-case/framework/

[elfin mural]

yeah

it's been a thing for a while

[idle nexus]

laptop but not

[elfin mural]

uses framework's board

you can actually order just a framework board

and slap it into the case

[idle nexus]

1660ti? tbh I don't even know how good/bad those cards are. my laptop has 1660ti but it's a thermal disaster so I never really took advantage of it

how does 1660ti do against 3050?

[elfin mural]

they're the same

pretty much

it's basically like the 3050 has more vram and rt/dlss capability

3050 6gb is slower than 1660ti btw

only the 8gb is equal lol

[idle nexus]

lol 3050 6gb should be like 3030ti

[elfin mural]

it's a 1060 all over again

it literally identically performs like 1060 6gb

i wish 4050 had 8gb

it's kinda sad that it's got 6gb

6 is still ok but the 92 bit bus

makes it fall behind 3060 laptop

[idle nexus]

ouch lol

[elfin mural]

i hope 4050 desktop gets 8

but i wouldn't be surprised

matching laptop variant sounds like what nvidia would do

it's better than the 3050 8gb i guess

3dmark on my laptop with 4050 at 140w gave me a score near 1080 desktop

[chrome mirage]

I'm currently watching YouTube on an Xbox 360 because I was playing Forza Horizon and was too lazy to switch consoles.

[viral heron]

Is there any way to make HDR not be garbage. There's just like bright spots on my pc and it makes my monitor warm/orange :/

I need it on to fix a couple issues but it's actually painful playing with it on

[mortal grail]

@viral heron turn it off and also turn it off in game

As I said before, the other half of the fix is just not using hdr and it's likely fine

Or you can find a way to alt tab without the screen going black (i.e whichever window option you use that works)

[viral heron]

Ok. Do you think pressing the windows key instead of alt tab would trigger the same thing

[elfin mural]

it would

[surreal kernel]

cyberpunk players help

someone that completed it

anyone

[wary fjord]

Maybe ur monitor is not hdr certified xD

[viral heron]

It is

Idk either I either have to restart my pc every 2 hours or play with HDR on and my screen stays orange

[elfin mural]

try to not alt tab a lot

[tranquil pebble]

HDR just makes SDR content look washed out on my monitor

(it also makes screenshots look awful)

[trim vigil]

i need help

[tranquil pebble]

https://dontasktoask.com/

moment

[trim vigil]

can someone rate my build

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/PBnxdH

[wary fjord]

cool

thats enough for 1080p mid high experience

[trim vigil]

and other feedback

tomie

@wary fjord would you have any other feedback

[mighty hazel]

How much is a 6700xt

Cuz that’s a lot better than a 3060

[trim vigil]

not available in my city

the place im getting all the parts from doesnt have the 6700xt

[mighty hazel]

Do they have 3060 ti

Or 6800

[trim vigil]

ive also checked other pc stores in my city none of them sell the 6700xt

[trim vigil]

its more $

[wary fjord]

do they have a website

[trim vigil]

ye

[wary fjord]

drop

[trim vigil]

https://www.centrecom.com.au/

[mighty hazel]

Yeah but it’s like 30% faster

30% more fps

[trim vigil]

on pc partpicker the cheapest 6700xt is 1.5k

and the cheapest 3060ti is 600$

au price are crazy

@wary fjord so?

@mighty hazel so?

[mighty hazel]

Maybe 4060 ti or 3060 ti/ 7700xt if u can afford them

If not get the 3060

[trim vigil]

i was gonna get a 8gb 4060 its 30$ extra

but the current gpu is a 12gb 3060

[elfin mural]

tbh

go with what you want

people have given you advice many times before

i think at this point you have an idea of what to look for

[wary fjord]

i look for peace

but all i see is violence.

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sad-face-sad-crying-9gag-gif-14453131

[mossy raptor]

weird gif i posted shows up as link

[sinful blade]

You have no roles

No roles=no embed

The GPU is out for DELIVERRYYYY

time to stare out the window for 8 hours

[elfin mural]

wat gpu

[sinful blade]

The 1660s

For the birthday build

[elfin mural]

not bad

[craggy shoal]

You need to level up in this server

[wary fjord]

start to dungeon until u hit lvl 99

[atomic mist]

Pfft leveling up is overrated

[mortal grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/835557783621337139/1226539370928934974/IMG_1629.jpg?ex=662522ce&is=6612adce&hm=713ac81532360ba3e3b01f78650a5fabc7d9f2b0194d220c2413f0be858c9fda&

[craggy shoal]

made with mematic

[wary fjord]

the hell is mad snail disease xD

also i found out some mites can crawl under your skin

thats trippy xD

they just have this enzyms that disolve skin tissue

i like watching random stuff at 4am

[dusk knot]

Hello weggh

[dusk knot]

You must have not watched SpongeBob SquarePants lol

It's a legitimate disease

It's far worse than rabies

[surreal kernel]

do yall recommend malwarebyte

?

[pliant berry]

I've only really used the free portion of it and it does what it needs to

[surreal kernel]

idk I installed it because my cousin installed tlauncher on my pc

and I wanted to b sure

ran a full scan it said that it's alr

idk if I should keep it or not

[reef shard]

6090 is crazy

[pliant berry]

I have no idea what that launcher is but I trust malwarebytes a fair bit. the other virus software I use is virustotal.com to scan suspicious files I download

[sinful blade]

Only $80

[surreal kernel]

Tlauncher basicly cracked minecraft

😭

homie got mad bcs I signed out of my Microsoft acc so he couldn't play

[surreal kernel]

you already know

[reef shard]

Got money like that

[surreal kernel]

that's how I roll

[surreal kernel]

i got it in black tho

opium 6090

[wary fjord]

xD never encounter that episode yet

[velvet summit]

only slightly related but i want a forklift

for myself i mean

or actually

a front loader would be more useful

[surreal kernel]

?? 😭

riding forklifts is fun

my dad has a few at his job

has anyone watched Shin godzilla?

[velvet summit]

i am forklift certified... i've only been on a forklift once lmao

[surreal kernel]

oh

didn't know that was a thing

I learned from the workers there

[velvet summit]

lmao

osha violation

[surreal kernel]

asked dad if it was cool for me to ride it and he said whtve

[surreal kernel]

who cares

[velvet summit]

fr

[surreal kernel]

plus it's not like I was doing avtual work

even tho I could

[velvet summit]

almost no company completely complies with osha as long as you are being reasonably safe

[surreal kernel]

I was just riding it around the place

[velvet summit]

the only time we comply with regulations is when there is an inspector

[surreal kernel]

yeah

[surreal kernel]

they b annoying asf

[velvet summit]

and then every team leader goes "take off your headphones and put in ear plugs, the inspector is here"

lmfao

[surreal kernel]

mfs come unannounced too

out of no where

wait why do you do as a job

[velvet summit]

it was a summer job, but i worked at a car factory

material handling

[surreal kernel]

ohh that's cool

I wana start working this summer

staying at my dad's job makes no sense

I'll work as a waiter 💀

[dusk knot]

It's from the episode "once bitten"

[wary fjord]

why everyone beats intel now adays

are u guys considering arm soc as your main soc in your future gaming pc?

[mortal grail]

Probably still arrives in better condition than any delivery driver

[pliant berry]

I would love it if I had a mobile device with arm soc that can just replace my desktop completely

[surreal kernel]

hope cyberpunk becomes our reality

[wary fjord]

emulation might be nice if we go arm

[wary fjord]

no

xD

[pliant berry]

Install pc directly to brain

[surreal kernel]

yes

[wary fjord]

u either get nier or cyberpunk

if u want to go to taht route Xd

[mortal grail]

Bro asking the real questions

[wary fjord]

xD

hahaha

[uncut mulch]

Do you think this is to much bend for coax cable?

[wary fjord]

looks fine

[uncut mulch]

Thanjs

[lone mango]

In some places they are almost there. Go to new york, chicago, philly, etc

[uncut mulch]

Uh, the only thing that looks like cyberpunk in New York is tall buildings, wym?

[lone mango]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/xBCLRyuVeLs?si=ZBwRBg4q5BbxIj-g

[rancid juniper]

hydro

[uncut mulch]

https://youtu.be/YMeWfpBleik?si=oI37iILRxpgrHFfR

I mean, I guess we're almost there

[young matrix]

go to times square

its so bad

[elfin mural]

i don't want cyberpunk future

[uncut mulch]

What's bad?

[elfin mural]

if you end up being poor

well there goes any comfort

[young matrix]

everything

[uncut mulch]

Ok

You forgot to gesture vaguely

[young matrix]

smells like garbage, you got naked people in the streets, you have elmo and cookie monster mugging a guy that didnt pay for his selfie

tourists blocking the middle of the street

[uncut mulch]

That sounds like poor organization and management, not cyberpunk

[elfin mural]

sounds very much like cyberpunk

in a way

[young matrix]

• the sheer amount of screens and bright lights is equivalent to night city

[uncut mulch]

I guess they didn't really have flying cars in cyberpunk (lol) but at least there were cool body mods

[young matrix]

how to say you know nothing about nyc without saying it

[uncut mulch]

What you describe is not equal to cyberpunk but equal to the 1984 movie escape from New York

[sinful blade]

THE GPU IS HEREEEE

I can finally start building her pc

https://tenor.com/view/happy-dancing-celebrate-excited-gif-13870839

[lone mango]

Forgot to mention the national guard in the subways checking people's bags and the illegal gangs that formed from the influx of illegals

[young matrix]

oh yeah

also gonna throw in korea as a dystopia candidate

[lone mango]

You wake up in philly and see this everywhere on your way to work

[rancid juniper]

horse

[lone mango]

Guess you could say 2077 is like korea mixed with american cities, but the real future over here is an even more degraded version of american cities

This country will turn into brazil in like 20 years

[uncut mulch]

Philadelphia is a scary place

[mental yoke]

hey y’all

[sour falcon]

YEAHHHHHHH

[mental yoke]

hi T3k

[sour falcon]

One wrong look will turn you into Swiss cheese

[sour falcon]

Wsg jaq

[mental yoke]

just chilling

[wary fjord]

theres a creepy scene there later xD

[mental yoke]

got 2 hours till i work

great

[wary fjord]

when u in a snowy scene

[sour falcon]

Wish you the best lol

[mental yoke]

thx lol

i work 3:30 to 8:30

which isnt too bad

[sour falcon]

Ewwwww

[mental yoke]

but

monday i work 2:30 to midnight

[sour falcon]

It could always be wors-

[mental yoke]

im making $23 an hour so im good

[sour falcon]

I WISH

😭

[mental yoke]

im prob gonna buy a new Audi

[uncut mulch]

23 an hour is not enough for an audi

[mental yoke]

im tired of using my 2021 Chevorlet Malibu

i’ve been saving for 10 years

sooo yes it is

[uncut mulch]

Don't forget about the maintenance

[mental yoke]

ik

that

[sour falcon]

Oh god

[mental yoke]

not the one im lookin at

[uncut mulch]

I'm sorry, do whatever, I'm not your mother

[mental yoke]

its a 2017 Audi A4

[lone mango]

Get a new camry

Looks nice + uses that same reliable engine that they been using for a while while being even more efficient than last time

[sour falcon]

When it doesn’t kill itself

RAHHH THE NEW 4RUNNER IS REVEALED IN 2 DAYS

[uncut mulch]

Luckily I think 2017 A4 is not plagued by timing chain issues

[uncut mulch]

https://www.tiktok.com/@burgunbee_392/video/7213796213307657518

[mighty hazel]

Best car

E39s 💯

[sour falcon]

Big redesign

[uncut mulch]

Big downer with that TV screen

[wary fjord]

isnt it nice

bring ur xbox there

go to the mountain xD

just chill

for 14 hours

[uncut mulch]

Awful

[sour falcon]

Yeah not much of a fan of it either

[uncut mulch]

Go offroading, bump on a big hole and hit the 65 inch TV mounted 20 inches from your face

[wary fjord]

how about tv that u can pull on the top of the car ?

[uncut mulch]

$4500 repair

[sour falcon]

Still got a roll down rear window thankfully

[sour falcon]

What tomie

[wary fjord]

this?

[uncut mulch]

Hehe, 2005 called

[wary fjord]

ehh xD whats the best place to put tv in

maybe just get vision pro i guess xD

[mental yoke]

well

[uncut mulch]

I mean, generally people who go out to the nature don't go there to watch Gossip Girl

[mental yoke]

just spent $650 on an ROG Ally

[wary fjord]

hmm car for me is like

moving room

xD

i want those car that has sink on it bathroom and stuff

what is that called

[uncut mulch]

It's $400 at Best buy right now

[wary fjord]

something u can just live on it

if u want some alone time

[uncut mulch]

Camper

[pliant berry]

Thats what a lot of people considered it when the ford model t came out

[dusk knot]

Am now in Canada

Soo long America

[wary fjord]

hmm

watch out for shoot out

[wary fjord]

ehhh

looks weird

[uncut mulch]

By weird you mean cool

Gotcha

[wary fjord]

its giving me a "do you want some candy kid?" type of vibe xD

a car i will avoid xD if i saw one . but again it looks like icecream thingy too

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/692639617704156854/

look at this interiors

its so cool xD

like mini hotel

[uncut mulch]

Oh they're definitely cool

[devout forum]

I will never understand people living in a van

At least the ones that live in a van and drink Starbucks every morning

And have like iPhones and Macbooks with a Starlink and solar panels on the van roof

Like sure if you have a clapped out old van and live in it because you don't get another option that's understandable

But some people really just want to look oh so fancy while wasting time and money

[nocturne flicker]

Gonna be cheaper than rent

I'd live in a van rather than spending the market rate on renting a studio here

And I would kit it out to make it not be as miserable to live in too

[devout forum]

Like that van in the post

That stuff ain't cheap

You've blown tens of thousands on the fancy crap in it

At least

You can likely get like a 60 square meter house for the price of that van

[nocturne flicker]

They said it cost them 23.2k USD for it

[devout forum]

"freedom to go where you want, whenever youwant and live in luxury"

Aaaaaaand there's the problem

[north crescent]

Lot of stuff can be considered luxury if you compare it to living on the streets in the most dangerous place on the world and only getting a single piece of bread a week for food.

[devout forum]

Quite frankly I'm buying that if they get sponsored for like most of the furnishing and stuff

[devout forum]

That van wasn't just a living place

Those furnitures were the expensive kind

I'mma be real I know what the size of that van is

It's roughly my room

They ain't fitting 4 people AND cooking AND bathroom in that

No effing way

[nocturne flicker]

They have a company where you pay them to come convert your vehicle of specific specs to a living space

[devout forum]

Not a CHANCE

[devout forum]

I'mma check this out

[wary fjord]

if u like traveling

it will make sense

like its boring to live on one place sometimes

and ur life is not that long u know xD might aswell venture what earth can offer

[devout forum]

Oh it's in Britain and in 2019

Before pandemic

[north crescent]

I really appreciate the spelling error that was made. "No hecking wax". I just like to think that wax is the only thing that makes or breaks luxury.

[devout forum]

Hm?

[north crescent]

Your deleted swear message

[devout forum]

But yeah
No effing way, half of that van is like the super extra expensive crap

Just a CHAIR would cost a thousand pounds

No way you can fit it in 24k with all furnishing and the van itself

I'm calling cap on it