general-chat

[trim vigil]

@devout forum

Cheapest 6700xt is 1.6k

[weak cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Q-VbyZ4ixnA

[wary fjord]

yuck

[devout forum]

Dryer lint is actually really good for fire starting tinder

[weak cedar]

I wonder what of you stuff it in a pillow case is it soft enough

[devout forum]

It might, but it's also a fire hazard

[mental yoke]

WHERE TF DO U LIVE

[devout forum]

Brand new one according to PCPartPicker in Australia

but it's oos so it's irrelevant

[mental yoke]

i was about to say if u lived in usa holy hell

[trim vigil]

Aus

[trim vigil]

It’s from low to high

And these are the first 2

[mental yoke]

wtf

[devout forum]

those are both out of stock

[trim vigil]

Crazy ik

[devout forum]

those are irrelevant

Realistically if you're thinking about spending 400 bucks on a GPU
You want to buy used

[trim vigil]

How are they out of stock

[devout forum]

JW.com

I think the store might've went out of business

oh

Okay I see

it's like one of those really old-school stores that don't regularly update pricing

I'm assuming those are pandemic prices

[trim vigil]

Still all the 6700xt on the whole of au pc part picker and those are the cheapest ones

[devout forum]

Yeah leftover listing from the pandemic

[devout forum]

again, you want to get a used card at your price range because the 4060 is a rebranded 50-class card

[trim vigil]

I’m getting the 12gb 3060

[devout forum]

and the 3060 will not run out of VRAM but the GPU is just not very powerful to begin with

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Your money, your decision

you'd benefit a lot from buying used is what I'm trying to say

[trim vigil]

And this is a budget build so I’m not expecting it to be top of the line straight away

[devout forum]

What's your budget?

And what parts do you already have that you'll use?

[elfin mural]

in this case 3060 is simply better than 4060

more vram doesn't benefit the gpu, but the extra bus width sure does

[devout forum]

he can get a 6700 XT for 310 AUD

[elfin mural]

ik

[devout forum]

which handily beats both in every case

so like

[elfin mural]

he made it clear used isn't what he's keen of

[devout forum]

I'm just headdesking at this "Must be brand new" thing

[elfin mural]

some people just doesn't want used

and that's ok

[trim vigil]

Here is the full build

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/HkTCPF

[devout forum]

I guess it's not too bad

you can go for a 5600 and the stock cooler to save a hundred AUD for basically no perf loss

5600 still perfectly good for a 3060

[modern imp]

No?

[craggy shoal]

Yes

[trim vigil]

I was gonna but I had second thoughts

[devout forum]

You can always upgrade later

[modern imp]

The 4060 was literally a larger performance uplift from the 3060 than the 2060 to 3060 was

[devout forum]

Dead wrong lmao

[trim vigil]

So the 5600 is better than the 5700X

[devout forum]

the 4060 beats the 3060 12gb by at most 5%

often equal or less perf

[trim vigil]

9%

[devout forum]

it's the same perf but cheaper

and you don't need a separate cooler for it

Remember
The 4060 uses the same class GPU core the 3050 did

[modern imp]

The naming scheme literally doesn't matter

[devout forum]

it's 50-class perf sold for 60-class price

[modern imp]

https://www.computerbase.de/2024-03/grafikkarten-generationen-test-geforce-gtx-1060-rtx-2060-3060-4060-vergleich/

[devout forum]

the GPU core does tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ae7XrIbmao

the 4060 is garbage for the price

[modern imp]

The only cases that the 4060 doesn't get performance uplifts is at higher resolutions since it's usually ROP bound

[devout forum]

Bro it EFFING SUCKS for 300

imagine barely matching the prev gen in raster while touting it as "30% faster than 3060"

[modern imp]

It's more like 20%

[mighty hazel]

Technically worse

20% lol naw no way

Can’t even beat the 3060 ti

[devout forum]

300 USD for the 4060 is frankly insulting

[mighty hazel]

It has a 128 bit vram bus

[devout forum]

IKR???

[mighty hazel]

4050 basically

[elfin mural]

4050 laptop is 92bit

if that's not slower than 3060 laptop idk what to say

[modern imp]

Did you forgot that the 4060 memory is also clocked higher?

It's not a 1:1 comparison

Bus width alone without any context is useless

[mighty hazel]

This is why vram bus matters https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328891236918493184/1218607586518110228/IMG_0800.png?ex=66118241&is=65ff0d41&hm=24f83ca6e817dc18208b7c5021fe1b0dec60c6cfd6fd93f467b6baad85f35f93&

💀

Some games it’s affected

[modern imp]

If that was that all that mattered the radeon vii would be the best thing ever made

[mighty hazel]

There’s a certain point where it doesn’t matter

Like after 192bit

But 128 bit is a meme

[devout forum]

Yeah but that GPU itself sucked

the VRAM bus was not the limiting factor

Here

It is

[mighty hazel]

Imagine needing to raise clock speeds 2x from 30 series and still getting like 5 to 10% better only 💀💀

[devout forum]

F

[mighty hazel]

4070 and above tho, those are good usually

[devout forum]

ye 4070 Super, 4070 Ti and Ti Super are pretty good

4080 is overpriced AF

4090 is untouchable

[mighty hazel]

4080 super for 999 tho

[craggy shoal]

My friend is considering a 4080 Super lol

[devout forum]

I mean it competes well against XTX

4080S for 999 is actually legit

(though it is still more expensive for us after currency conversion and taxes)

so I'd personally not get a 4080S
But that's solely because of price

[craggy shoal]

Still overpriced and it competes with the XTX. Still don't get how people are buying Nvidia GPUs (unless it's for AI or something lol)

[mighty hazel]

4070 ti price is kinda funny tho, the 1070 ti msrp was 400 , now we’re on 800

[craggy shoal]

Bruh wasn't the 1080 $600-$700? 💀

And that was a top-end GPU before you went to Titan

[mighty hazel]

1080 ti yeah

Then like 1200 from 2080 ti onward

[craggy shoal]

$1000 for a top-end GPU 😩

I wish bruh

Still don't know why they made the 2080 Super less expensive compared to the normal 2080

[modern imp]

Because it was the worst turing card in terms of value

By far

The 2070 and 2080ti were decent

2060 was meh

Also gpu pricing never exactly went up

[craggy shoal]

Nvidia having a moment (all the time obviously)

[modern imp]

The current top end gpu market that started with turing is a replacement for dual gpu configs

[mighty hazel]

They weren’t even 999, they were like 1199

[mighty hazel]

It was fire, a lot faster than the 1060

2060 super was even better

[modern imp]

It was great from a value perspective, but it was positioned weird since it was sort of both a 1060 and 1070 replacement

[wary fjord]

but dlss 3 tho

xD

[unreal trail]

I got dlss5

[wary fjord]

one day raw perf will be a legend xD

[sinful blade]

The amount of titans and Tesla cards I’ve found on ebay

It would take several scrolls to get past those

[devout forum]

it already is practically

if you think about it, nGreedAI cards already can't game without upscaling

[tacit geode]

https://speedtest.morrenus.xyz/

this is cool stuff

being able to have speedtest run every hour on the hour and log it all here

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1218192219500970054/1222165216192630794/Screenshot_20240326-084800.png?ex=6615390e&is=6602c40e&hm=7eba7d51daaaa97512cbe65f79740fc453c937dedd74fa66c78b0ed899649506&

[devout forum]

Gaslighing go brr

[unreal trail]

reality doesn't even exist at this point because everything is whatever BS I wanna spout when I wake up in the morning

[devout forum]

ikr?

[dusk trail]

interesting idea. if this upsets you, you could always go against the grain of society and opt for the opposite of this

reality does exist, and all the BS you spout when you wake up in the morning, is in fact, BS

[velvet summit]

Hmm yes

The fine print

Welcome to space

[rancid juniper]

im a spacer

[velvet summit]

i cant believe im saying this but i'm actually considering switching to a paid search engine

[pliant berry]

a paid search engine?

[velvet summit]

indeed

specifically kagi.com

they have a free trial ish which is 100 free searches

i've gotten 25 searches in and i already like the feel and features of this search engine lmao

[pliant berry]

is it basically more customization?

[velvet summit]

kinda?

also they have no ads or trackers in the search result

(sites may still have their own trackers)

and their search results are more refined

i wouldnt say that everyone should switch to it but i like it enough for me to want to pay for it lmao

i'll finalize my decision after finishing using the 100 free searches first though

[pliant berry]

sounds interesting but it's a bit hard to compete when other browsers like arc exist with free link and page summary, automatic browsing etc

[velvet summit]

possibly

though at least as of current, arc isnt supported on windows or android so i cant use it anyways

[elfin mural]

oh arc browser

[velvet summit]

also the slight problem is i want to continue to use chrome for all my google ecosystem stuff lmfao

[elfin mural]

thought you were talking bout arc gpu

https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce-rtx-4060-is-now-available-for-279

pls drop to 200

[unreal trail]

they both use air cons in the summer, at home and in office

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-zen5-based-strix-point-and-16-core-fire-range-cpus-spotted-in-shipping-manifests

[devout forum]

Another update

I will have a job after all

[rancid juniper]

👍

[unreal trail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg2IuPKqvt4

[idle nexus]

I learned hex keys & binary numbers kinda

heckin confusing

[weak cedar]

When do we get ion cannons 🤔

[crude wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-were-in-good-hands-lannan-eacott-lazarbeam-we-are-safe-here-they-can-take-care-of-us-gif-18350212

[weak cedar]

https://youtu.be/ILIhh32URRM?si=NECCR12562Rnvr5A

[icy ore]

The heck

[crude wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-conduciendo-gif-24377638

[gleaming sedge]

ok i have a software problem i need some help with, i am wanting to take a kit car and remodel the kit so accept a different engine without going out and buying everything then designing it. i am in need of a 3d modeling software that i can run mechanical tests and not cost a fortune to get

[crude wolf]

A car?

[gleaming sedge]

yes

[crude wolf]

sure

ask a mechanic

[gleaming sedge]

nah

id rather do the designing it since it would take them awhile and everything to do it

[crude wolf]

Idk about car kits and stuff like that

[gleaming sedge]

and that is fine, i am not asking help for the car im asking for a app that i can do the work on and run mechanical tests as well

[crude wolf]

you on iphone or samsung?

[gleaming sedge]

samsung but id rather do it on my computer since it could run it much better

maybe i cant do it since AutoCAD is so expensive i am not sure if i can find something else

[pliant berry]

fusion360 has free licenses with some paywalled features. it was autodesks attempt at merging a lot of their modelling and simulation softwares as far as I know

[gleaming sedge]

recommendations for sub 250 dollar 3d printer?

id love to get my hands on a bambu labs p1s but that would be my car savings gone again

but on the other hand it would be like 3 years until i could fully afford the kit car

[pliant berry]

uhh bambu labs has some cheaper options. other than that you can just go with one of the cheap plotter type printers. you will be limited in volume though

might be cheaper to find a makerspace or library that has high quality printers available to rent

[weak cedar]

I decided to reset the trip meter, now it makes more sense 😅

[gleaming sedge]

i dont want to rent a printer though, id like to be able to print on hand

[weak cedar]

Went from average of 27 o 39 mpg

[pliant berry]

depends what you are looking for. 3d printing is a very time consuming hobby that often requires a lot of troubleshooting and not everyone is into that

[gleaming sedge]

i mean sounds decent to me since i have nothing else to do once out of work

maybe ill just have to say screw it and buy a used ender 3 off marketplace

[pliant berry]

As long as you know that going in then sure

[gleaming sedge]

just sucks that every printer below 1k has so many problems

[pliant berry]

it's always getting better though

[gleaming sedge]

yea but the price still goes through the roof where no one but big companies can afford them

[pliant berry]

ofc, but that is also every industry that makes money. The hope is for that money to trickle down and help the development for more consumer friendly technology

[gleaming sedge]

problem is it still will hardly ever become affordable unless you are mid high to high class people or you take out a loan to buy the printer

its just the kind of thing that happens in "the land of the free" more like the land of the poor because this country does not care one bit about any body in it

[mighty hazel]

Yeah prices have gone up a bit but that’s nvidia for ya

The 1070 ti was 399 or 450, now a 4070 ti is 800 bucks

Rtx 3080 699, rtx 4080 1199

Was 1299 but they dropped the price like a few weeks after iirc

[pliant berry]

but again that is literally every industry. cameras, printers, computers, books even used to be a premium. Technology is very expensive to develop and requires years of investments from larger companies to make it available to general public. now we have cheap cameras, bookstores and libraries in almost every town. computers available even in the school level. 3d printing is just one of those technologies in relatively early stages.

[gleaming sedge]

and it probably will be for a very very very long time

i guess i should get some college degrees so i can afford one down the road

[velvet summit]

https://youtu.be/P9oR59K5iY8

[swift sable]

ayo?

[craggy shoal]

no way I'm the only one whose File Explorer crashes when trying to open it

[mortal grail]

you should install the cooler

also, consider a bios update and/or installing the ram as well

AM5 takes a long time to boot if you have AM5

[wooden marten]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[swift sable]

Happens to me too

[sweet phoenix]

How much was it?

And W

[brazen locust]

Can anyone help me with a super ultra wide question?

If I get a super ultra wide with pbp, and have two displays side by side (PC / PS5), will the PC have to be set every time to go into 16:9 aspect ratio to fit, or will it know to change to that size display from the 32:9 it would enjoy if it was enjoying the monitor to itself?

[wary fjord]

Why not 4090

[sour falcon]

Wahoo

[sinful blade]

DID SOMEONE SAY 4090

https://tenor.com/view/omg-supernatural-jensen-ackles-dean-winchester-spn-gif-5291496

[mighty hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/rtx3080ricky-gif-18373329

[dusk knot]

Weak

Get the 5090

Only $1899

[sour falcon]

Mine

[sweet phoenix]

18999*

[wooden marten]

380

[sinful blade]

@sweet phoenix is 500gb enough for an entry level gaming system? Having trouble finding sub $50 1tb nvmes

I miss Black Friday deals:(

[wary fjord]

if u play fewer games and willing to uninstall games more often just to fit new ones

[icy ore]

https://www.ign.com/articles/first-human-patient-to-receive-a-neuralink-brain-implant-used-it-to-stay-up-all-night-playing-civilization-6

Geez

[wooden marten]

Did you check for bent pins or dirty socket?

the cpu

you take off the cooler

was this a prebuilt?

Then check the socket where you put your cpu in

make sure its not dirty

Alcohol wipes

dont use those

or a paper towel dabbed with alcohol

no

alcohol

hydrogen peroxide isnt the same thing at all lmao

not really that I know of

[mental yoke]

mee6 bot seems to be down

[craggy shoal]

Slash command 💀

[wary fjord]

mee6 is on vacation

[mental yoke]

hmmmm another member just tried but work

[sweet phoenix]

Fine

[rough zinc]

I would not take a rag or wipes to an AM5 socket

[mental yoke]

non-slash command worked

[rough zinc]

Or any socket that has pins on it

Light sprays of compressed air ngl

A wipe can risk bent pins

Did you clear cmos btw?

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-granite-ridge-zen5-desktop-cpus-with-6-and-8-cores-and-170w-tdp-spotted-in-transit

[rough zinc]

Don’t bother with cleaning the cpu socket until every other option is exhausted

[sinful blade]

Back as a kid, my mom accidentally bought a 32 pack of those exact brand and forgot about them until a year after the return window

So me and my brothers would use these to boost on our scooters

They sucked, but we thought it was cool as children

[craggy shoal]

why is the chat dead

wasn't even JP's fault this time

this guy took a screenshot of his camera app

[sinful blade]

@dusk knot why’d you kill chat

[craggy shoal]

bruh

look at it and tell me whether it's a bent pin

because I can't tell in that photo 💀

[gleaming sedge]

Ok math people, if a item costs me 5800 dollars and I put 500 a month towards it how long until I get to 5800? Sorry I tired earlier and got a answer that seemed wrong

[craggy shoal]

What's 5800/500?

[rancid juniper]

69

[atomic current]

Real

[craggy shoal]

that's how long it'll take

[rancid juniper]

👌

[craggy shoal]

I can give you the answer and a hint is that it'll take (slightly) less than a year

[rancid juniper]

6.9 months

[craggy shoal]

But I'm gonna act like your dad and yell at you if you say something like "12 or more"

swear if this mf comes back and says "George Washington" I'm gonna slap him with a Nerf dart

@gleaming sedge

[rancid juniper]

Dwight D. Eisenhower

[craggy shoal]

Go clean your bathroom until you can give me the correct answer

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/toilet-spin-toilet-bowl-spinning-gif-17583482

[sour falcon]

It looks like dirt or dust or something

[chrome mirage]

I was thinking my PC is loud and then I fired up my old Alienware from 2010

[tranquil pebble]

90s HDDs made such funny noises

[chrome mirage]

I miss my old pc from when I was 3

[tranquil pebble]

I miss dial up noises too ngl. Some modems sound pretty cool.

Everything else about dial up though... no thanks

[chrome mirage]

I couldn't read at the time but I was tired of waiting for my parents to set the computer so I did it myself.

[craggy shoal]

I wish I was old enough to experience the hard drive wind up sound

[atomic current]

It's funny though because I found the BIOS fan controls in my brother's computer from 2008 or something and it isn't noisy anymore

[chrome mirage]

I wish my 08 computer had fan controls in the bios. I have to use Alienware command center and the daughterboard that controls fans and RGB no longer speaks to the software

[atomic current]

Rip

It's a consumer grade biostar am3 board with a Radeon GPU from diamond

I forget what the PSU is

Thermaltake TR2 600w I think

[velvet summit]

am3?

[wary fjord]

xD its thinking

[velvet summit]

probably not significantly enough

[misty sparrow]

If you mine your electricity costs will probably outweigh the income

[wary fjord]

i like when machine makes noise it means they working. like a child stop making noise u know something wrong happened

[atomic current]

Yeag the amd socket 😂

[misty sparrow]

people keep posting funny little Costco pcs in r/pcmasterrace and I wonder if they’re actually a good deal

[deep parcel]

actually pretty good

case airflow looks pretty garbo tho

[sinful blade]

Yeah, replace the case and that’s fine

Fun little tidbit
Costco’s website is inaccessible on iPhone unless you reduce tracking protections lmao

[misty sparrow]

I’m on there just fine

[chrome mirage]

I just ordered a 5800x3d from Amazon because there was a $50 off coupon

[atomic current]

They should have a $5800 off coupon

[chrome mirage]

That would be nice

[atomic current]

They'd probably only offer that on like a $6 million crane or something 😔

[chrome mirage]

I should have upgraded to the 7800x3d since my motherboard is broken anyways but I didn't want to have to upgrade my ram as well

[atomic current]

What's broken about it

[chrome mirage]

I knocked a capacitor off the board so the audio doesn't work and I get random crashes now

[atomic current]

Rip

Should at least get that fixed or soemthing

Idk if they'd fix it but it seems like more than an inconvenience

[chrome mirage]

I have a sound card and the crashes aren't often enough to bother me

Actually I have 2 sound cards

[wary fjord]

how much

still 350 usd here sadly

[chrome mirage]

After tax it was $400 Canadian

$350 before tax

[velvet summit]

ngl i forgot that avid was an english word

this confused me so much lmao

because i thought that avid made some mouse software

[unreal trail]

💀

[deep parcel]

ive had avid in my bio for like 4 years now lol

[pliant berry]

Everytime I read that I just think of Pro Tools now

[velvet summit]

real
pro tools, media composer, sylabus

[velvet summit]

i havent looked at your bio until now though lmao

[pliant berry]

sibelius

[velvet summit]

oh

lmao

[pliant berry]

though that one is cursed

[velvet summit]

i knew it looked off but yeah

[rancid juniper]

https://wccftech.com/intel-arc-battlemage-xe2-bmg-10-bmg-21-gpus-confirmed-qualification-samples-gaming-graphics-cards/

[weak cedar]

😅

[wary fjord]

how do you verify if its that a real deal?

[velvet summit]

ive encountered an issue

there's no vmdk file

wait

OH

i missed a step

[mental yoke]

ok so

[tranquil pebble]

We still need a Neco ARC card

[rancid juniper]

there has to be some weeb at intel considering it

[tranquil pebble]

id be surprised if that joke hasn't been made at intel lol

[rancid juniper]

who knows, it probably got turned down during the process

[dusk knot]

Hhhhmm

My favorite server

[weak cedar]

25th anniversary ❤️

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2024/03/28/2854127/0/en/RollerCoaster-Tycoon-Celebrates-25th-Anniversary-with-New-Online-Store.html

[tranquil pebble]

I've spent too much on Persona merch to spend more on other game merch right now lol

[tranquil pebble]

you can make a stupid amount of money in this game just spamming go karts everywhere lol

set the laps high and a short circular track... and people will pay lots for it

[wooden marten]

that boy big

my temps better not be passing 70c with that cooling

[obsidian berry]

If u set the rgb to blue, it’ll cool it down by 5c

[obsidian berry]

Reminds me of evga ftw card when they used to make them

But again all gpus basically look the same

[wooden marten]

Its colosal compared to my old one

[chrome mirage]

The dominos guy accidentally made 2 of my pizza and won't give me the first one he made

[random osprey]

that means the first one he made was the better pizza of the 2 and he's keeping it for himself

[lone mango]

How is it

Doesn’t seem super thick either. Is that 2.25 slot or something

[wooden marten]

Havent put it in yet

there was family over so I didn’t get around to building

[ripe egret]

L

[atomic current]

it's so cute

[dusk knot]

The sun is not supposed to do that. 😨

[tranquil pebble]

The sun is a deadly laser

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-quotes-drevil-austin-powers-gif-4977116026647296917

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/727195359851315230.gif?v=1

[craggy shoal]

Idk if any of y'all drink but I found this recipe in COD if y'all wanna try it

I don't drink so I can't tell you how good or bad it is

[unreal trail]

bruh

I"m not gonna make a videogame recipe lol;

[craggy shoal]

My friend is gonna try it when he can. I'll update y'all when he lets me know how good/bad it is lol

[sinful blade]

Finally got everything for this build
God I hate sellers

WAIT I FORGOT I COOLER

FUSIEUEVSUWHWB

[velvet summit]

It looks like a pretty good mix
Very simple really

At the very least, without trying it, it looks at least palatable

[velvet summit]

How 💀

Did you forget to buy one or did it just not arrive yet

[sinful blade]

Forgot to buy one.
CPU didn’t come with a wraith cooler

[velvet summit]

https://www.techradar.com/computing/hands-on-ugreen-dxp4800-plus

Summary: this is an early early access unit (probably still engineering sample), hardware is good, software is still in development and isn't too good

[craggy shoal]

Anker and UGreen: (silently competing to make power user accessories)
UGreen: (pulls out this bad boy)

[velvet summit]

Real

[wary fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izh0RLarM-Q @idle nexus look at this

[icy ore]

Nightmare fuel

Why is it in a wheelchair

[craggy shoal]

That's cursed

[wary fjord]

because u can clip its leg and arms

if u dont want it to move

but if u want it to move again u can put it on wheelchair

and if they cant push themselves other block will push it to help it

even the pick axes are walking lol if u drop them they gonna run away xD

[wooden marten]

So im connecting a fan hub and the yt vid says to connect the argb connector into d_led but I dont have that on the mobo

is that jargb_v2_1

[wary fjord]

yes

argb gen 2 is what u have

i bealive its backward compatible also

u can also plug regular argb on i t

the only difference is the max individually addressable rgb it can do.. i gues gen2 can do alot

[wooden marten]

they said fan hubs would help with cable management

[wary fjord]

it does

your scalp also helps for hair management xD

but if still get messy if u dont know how to organize it after

i have 10 way hub for rgb.. and 10 way hub for fan.. i wish they are combined.

[wooden marten]

where does this connect to?

[craggy shoal]

Connects to the F Panel

But yeah fan hubs help with cable management. You just have to manage the cables a bit more tidy

[wooden marten]

jfp1?

[craggy shoal]

What's your motherboard? MSI?

[wooden marten]

yes

[craggy shoal]

I'm starting to find that they'll just throw "J" in front of every connector

like what

I assume "JFP1" is just "Front Panel"

JFP1 = FP1 = FP = Front Panel

I guess?

[worthy tapir]

Just grab all the cable in one handful and zip tie them. Problem solved

[wary fjord]

u got it.. but its Jumper Front Panel 1 i think

[craggy shoal]

MSI just said "I put 'J' in front of everything so now I own this non-proprietary cable"

But it doesn't act as a jumper, does it? It's just for the front panel(?)

[wary fjord]

it does

u touch two pin

pc boots

xD

[craggy shoal]

yeah for the power button

wait I'm blanking

bruh

because USB 3 and USB 2

or I guess JUSB 3 and JUSB 2 (MSI things I guess)

[wary fjord]

the only thing on JFP1 is hdd led indicator, power, ground, restart i forgot xD the other

i dont recall usb they seem seperate header

[craggy shoal]

I've read JUSB when I was googling just now. Maybe it's different and on a different motherboard

[wary fjord]

they call it jusb thats odd

ow

[craggy shoal]

that's what I'm saying 💀

like what is that

[wary fjord]

JUSB means = Just USB

not all J is jumper xD

theres JAUD also

but J stands for Jack

on that one

JACK AUDIO

we learning today.. i dint know about it too just googled it xD right now

[craggy shoal]

Jack USB

huh 💀

[wooden marten]

zip ties definitely helped

[wary fjord]

yeah thats what i said JUSB means = Just USB

[wary fjord]

no thats for JAUD

[wary fjord]

till messy

partition fan cable base on their position

[craggy shoal]

JMSI

[wooden marten]

which is better to use hdmi or dp

monitor came w both

[worthy meteor]

Depends on versions of both

[wooden marten]

Well now I have a big problem

[rancid juniper]

Got a new case?

[wooden marten]

Computer turns on fine but fans wont spin

None of them

[wooden marten]

Yeah

[rancid juniper]

It could be that the fan hub is not powered

Check again

[wooden marten]

I might have done something wrong w the fan hub

[rancid juniper]

Yes

[worthy meteor]

Fan hub usually needs SATA power, check if you have that plugged in

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[wooden marten]

Yep my goofy ahh forgot to plug it into sata

[rancid juniper]

Lol

[wooden marten]

Lessgo

They’re really loud tho

I think theyre on max speed

Can I change that? I dont think they need to be this high on the home screen

[paper verge]

yo guys

should i oc my gpu with msi afterburner or the amd software

[rancid juniper]

Nice XD

What's your gpu

Is it amd?

[paper verge]

ye

[rancid juniper]

If so use adrenalin

(amd software)

[paper verge]

aight b et

[wooden marten]

Rx 6800

Doing the ddu rn to get rid of nvidia stuff

@idle nexus can u help me w the ddu stuff

Do I check off everything in the nvidia specific options?

[rancid juniper]

No

Keep it as it is

All you need to do is click on remove drivers and shutdown

Gotta select your current GPU of course (Nvidia)

[wary fjord]

hdmi popoo

[wooden marten]

there goes 1 fan

[wary fjord]

dp ❤️

xD

[wooden marten]

i have 0 clue how it broke off

[wary fjord]

what happen

[wooden marten]

ig one of them is just for rgb display now

[wooden marten]

Just snapped off on its own

saw it wasn’t spinning checked the back and it was snapped

[wary fjord]

nothing snap on its own xD

tension should build up

before snapping occured

its fine just get a new fan 🙂

[wooden marten]

ill do it later

can I just use it as rgb then without the actual fan part?

or just take it out all

[wary fjord]

they are seperate system

u plug them or not one of them will work

[rancid juniper]

Unlucky

The fans on that picture looked good

[wary fjord]

make sure theres no tension on your cable management

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[wary fjord]

the only thing i dont care about tensions are psu cables xD

because those are durable af

unless u want to use 4090 xD

bending there is iffy

[wooden marten]

@rancid juniper clean and shutdown right?

[tranquil pebble]

I find it so stupid how Microsoft has file extension display disabled by default ngl

[unreal trail]

lol

:chatting:

[wary fjord]

to train people visually

xD

[tranquil pebble]

its ripe for abuse... easier to disguise files as something they are not

[craggy shoal]

I just want my own generic Windows image that I can install with all of the settings that I use

Might actually do that lol

[rancid juniper]

Yes

[tranquil pebble]

Microsoft has tools for that

the default installer has switches to specify a custom image too

[unreal trail]

It's totally Ok to run that application file, trust us

[tranquil pebble]

but yeah hiding file extensions is annoying for people who know what they're doing... and potentially dangerous for those who do not...

I see no benefit to it honestly

[unreal trail]

of course, it's just a harmless zip file, can't you see? it even has the zip icon

[tranquil pebble]

lol

[wooden marten]

How do I change it so my fans arent 100% on home acreen

its loud asf

[wary fjord]

hmm

at bios u can control that

i set mine on silent profile xD

[worthy meteor]

Bios curve or smth like fancontrol

[wooden marten]

In system fans it just says 0rpm for all of them

[wary fjord]

if u use hub

[worthy meteor]

Make sure your fan controller is plugged into one of the fan headers

[wary fjord]

only 1 will register that has rpm there

xD

depends on how many hub u have.. 1 for each

if 0 rpm on all thats odd

[wooden marten]

Controllers plugged into sys fan1

[paper verge]

is undervolting more dangerous as supposed to overvolting?

[wary fjord]

same

[paper verge]

is it cause it can cause a short ?

[wary fjord]

maybe

If you undervolt by too much, your system might become unstable and crash. In some cases, the system might try to compensate by boosting power delivery to maintain stability, which can lead to higher temperatures.

its odd right

under = high temp?

xD

that only happen if u agresive af

[paper verge]

i mean

[wooden marten]

Its plugged into sysfan1 and the rgb works fine

the fans are spinning full power and they show up in bios

[paper verge]

uv to my knowledge isnt meant to reduce temps its just meant to delay the threshhold limit before the gpu goes doodoo

[wooden marten]

It just shows them all at 0rpm

[paper verge]

oh damn i cant type

[worthy meteor]

Rgb is a separate connector than pwm

[wooden marten]

But all 5 fans are showing up in bios so it has to be registering them

[wary fjord]

actually it does reduce temp

if u do it right

if u do it wrong it comepensate and do the reverse instead

[wooden marten]

And the controller is connected fine

[paper verge]

how much do you think i could possibly uv this?

[wooden marten]

I found the issue

[paper verge]

like max

[wary fjord]

until u cant pass ingame benchmark and syntetic benchmarks

[wooden marten]

There wasn’t anything plugged into the red one

That makes sense now

[paper verge]

do you think the benchmark within the amd software is good enough?

[wary fjord]

all die dont perform 100% identical

other good uv

good oc

or bad overall

trash bin

xD

[paper verge]

ah fair

im looking to oc my ram to 8200mhz dont know a good stress tester though

[wary fjord]

and also be aware on degration

some stuff works for now

nice oc or uv

but over time they dont work anymore xD

[paper verge]

basically cooling?

[wooden marten]

@worthy meteor one of the fans is now showing rpm

cpu and the rest still say 0rpm

[wary fjord]

i think theres degration also that it rquires more voltage now to run it xD

[wooden marten]

so how do I adjust them

so that they only increase speed based on temp

[wary fjord]

u increase them small

then benchmark

then do it again

until u crash

then u hit the threshold

[paper verge]

im doing it now

[wooden marten]

Oh I see

[paper verge]

its a 9m benchmark

[wooden marten]

It was set to dc instead of pwm

Now theyre quiter

[wary fjord]

nice

[wooden marten]

So now they should auto adjust?

[wary fjord]

pwm follow curve

i think u should see that on your bios

[wooden marten]

yeah

[wary fjord]

if u go on fan settings there

[paper verge]

oh

now it failed

[wary fjord]

xD be careful on oc or uv

[paper verge]

i wasnt working with voltages

[wary fjord]

yeah what ever it is you playing with xd

be careful

[dusk knot]

uwu

[chrome mirage]

I now have all of my digital Xbox 360 games downloaded to a hard drive. Hopefully this means that I can still play them when the Xbox 360 store shuts down

[paper verge]

yeah gpu died 💀

[wary fjord]

cool

now get a new gpu

xD

[dusk knot]

4090

[wary fjord]

if they require online

no

xD

i hate when games does that

[brittle lynx]

Imagine getting banned from fb marketplace for reporting scammers

[wary fjord]

hmmm i asume you got ban?

[brittle lynx]

Likely
I cannot access it anymore from my acc

[wary fjord]

hmmm did u recive any email regarding to that? xD thats seems odd

i like fb market because it shows items near your house

sometimes u get suprised its just 2 blocks away

[paper verge]

bro it aint legos

[brittle lynx]

Nope, only got the email when I reported the guy who scammed me, as well as the other scam products he was "selling"

Then fb shows that "marketplace is not available"

Not a bug or anything, app is updated and website does the same

[wary fjord]

even on mobile?

[brittle lynx]

That lizard guy be doing nothing good

[brittle lynx]

Yeah

I first got it on mobile

Then checked web

[wary fjord]

https://www.facebook.com/help/972392066266648

rant there

maybe sucker burg can read it

xD

[brittle lynx]

Ain't workin

Similar message

[wary fjord]

click the "Request a review by filing an appeal"

sad

well

just use other fb account i guess xD

dont report anyone this time

[brittle lynx]

I cannot even send the request because I'm not selling any items, and it is required to point out one for the appeal

[worthy meteor]

When you use a fan controller, only the fan controller shows up, all of the fans connected to the controller show up under the same header

[craggy shoal]

Jfan controller* (because MSI)

[brittle lynx]

Guess reports aren't a thing anymore

That guy still scamming btw

And I never got my €90 back

[wary fjord]

i think he report u too

if u rant on him first

u can mass report someone with bot accounts xD

[craggy shoal]

Time for mass bot reports on that guy in particular

[wary fjord]

use paypal next time @brittle lynx

[brittle lynx]

Definitely

[wary fjord]

u can settle it on paypal if he scams u xD or anyone scams u

[brittle lynx]

So everyone else gets banned lol

[craggy shoal]

About to get IP banned for mass reporting by using bots lol

[pliant berry]

A lot of scams of fb marketplace. My rule is if they mention cashapp, venmo, zelle or any of that stuff just block

[mental yoke]

schwaggy

[tranquil pebble]

so pretty much paypal or get out... makes sense

[wary fjord]

anything that can be reverse

[pliant berry]

Sometimes but tbh I only really use fb marketplace for local cash transactions

[wary fjord]

yeah

i sold my r5 2400g that method

meet up on a mall

[mental yoke]

My girl hung up on me to call her dad 😢

[wary fjord]

nothing sad about it. fam #1 priority

[mental yoke]

yeah ig

she got a package

little does she know its from me.

i bought her flowers and a gift basket 🙂

[tacit geode]

I need a car guy.

[dusk knot]

What happened?

[craggy shoal]

Dallas needs car help again

Did you put 87 in your 89 engine again?

[dusk knot]

Lol

He didn't

😐

[paper verge]

bro what is this

[tacit geode]

Nah it's more asking for pointers on replacing a wheel bearing

I have a different car completely now

I scrapped the pontiac

[velvet summit]

if i delete system32, i can free 7.4gb of space

i just had a thought

all of my videos are mainly memes

and are relatively small files

it doesnt make sense to store them on my os ssd

when i reinstall windows, im going to set the default videos folder, and also downloads and such folders to a hdd

maybe i'll leave the downloads on the ssd, but there isnt really much of a reason for what i would consider "warm" storage to need to be stored on my ssd

[tacit geode]

this was the alignment I got the camber bolts that need to be replaced

[wooden marten]

old gpu

new gpu

😮‍💨

[wooden marten]

and this was 1080p

although im not sure why my cpu score went down

[crude wolf]

You are deleting the life support for your computer

[tacit geode]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-joke-ranier-wolfcastle-mc-bain-the-simpsons-stand-up-comedy-gif-4372917

[craggy shoal]

Thinking about getting a Bambu Lab P1S just to print ABS

[crude wolf]

pretty good but the cpu clock frequency seems to dip alot

[velvet summit]

the fumes though

[craggy shoal]

P1S is enclosed

[velvet summit]

nasty fumes from abs

ah

still probably dont want it in living space though

unless you print in your garage

[craggy shoal]

I thought about the P1P but I have a roll of ABS that I accidentally bought and can't return anymore

so I'll just spend $700 on a printer because I can't use the ABS 💀

I already have an Ender 3 in my bedroom. I could have space for a P1S if I just moved my Ender 3 elsewhere in my room

[crude wolf]

700$ for a printer that uses abs

Abs should be low cost and the ender 3 should be fine using it

[craggy shoal]

it doesn't "only use" ABS. It's just more ideal for it given that it's enclosed

ABS is picky with the environment it's being printed in

you can get warping if you're not careful and it also smells bad from what I've heard

[crude wolf]

so does moisture in the air affect the abs?

[craggy shoal]

it could

both during and prior to prints

I'm not that advanced, but some people will demoisturize their filament before printing with it

[crude wolf]

so whatever is the environment is for the ABS bring printed it can have shoddy quality

[craggy shoal]

yes. but same goes for other filaments

ABS is picky in the sense that it needs to be printed at the perfect temperature, which enclosed printers help with that a lot

primarily because of temperature though

[crude wolf]

oh yea the ender is basically a open printer while more expensive ones have a cover or some door that you open

[craggy shoal]

ABS: needs a high and perfect temperature. Smells bad. Can warp if not printed properly
Other filaments (in my experience): can be printed at normal temperatures. doesn't smell as bad. not as much warping, but depends on the filament

[craggy shoal]

yep

There's a hack enclosure that you can get with the Ikea Lack(?) that I wanna try

You could also just buy an enclosure but that's boring and their ugly imo

[crude wolf]

for cheap

[craggy shoal]

yep

But it would also be nice to have two printers

[crude wolf]

Or if you have space in your home

Where there is a big enough space to put the printer in

[craggy shoal]

I wonder if my parents would let me put it in the office lol

[crude wolf]

and a door that doesent have gaps

even if it does have gaps it can be insulated

[wind ermine]

i want to fck a child so bad

[craggy shoal]

what 💀

[wind ermine]

i am just joking haha

[crude wolf]

:HUH: :HUH: :HUH:

[wind ermine]

you fell for it

[crude wolf]

:HUH:

[wind ermine]

no i was joking

stop it

[crude wolf]

[craggy shoal]

you were not joking

[crude wolf]

[craggy shoal]

MODS

lol

[crude wolf]

If you said that in some other server

you def gonna get banned permanently immediately

[wind ermine]

i love all humans the same

they are all childs of god

[crude wolf]

you testing the bot?

[wind ermine]

made from fire, dust

life...where did it come from?

the heart that beats

[crude wolf]

you just testing if the bot works

[wooden marten]

not sure why

[craggy shoal]

about to print this because it's Easter and pray that nothing fails because it's an 8.5-hour print

[crude wolf]

It’s probably a bottleneck

[crude wolf]

ay the easter bunny

You could probably sell it

idk to a thrift shop

[craggy shoal]

probably wouldn't sell for much

tools sell for much more

if I had that P1S this would probably take like 3 hours and it would guarantee not fail 😭

[crude wolf]

Yea it wont sell for much

if its detailed and if you can paint it

it would be more valuable

But that requires more expertise

[craggy shoal]

could also have the P1S do that for me with an AMS unit

$950 for that though (total, P1S with AMS unit)

[crude wolf]

Thats probably 200$

for the ams unit

[craggy shoal]

$350 for the unit itself
https://us.store.bambulab.com/products/ams-multicolor-printing

I could get three more and do 16 colors in a single print lol

but of course I'd have to buy the filaments along with that

expensive 💀

[crude wolf]

Idk if anyone has plans on selling pcs

[craggy shoal]

Would cost a hair more than my PC after tax

[crude wolf]

building them and selling them

[craggy shoal]

nah don't do that

I would just offer a build fee

$50 build fee

or maybe charge labor (like $20 per hour). probably better that way

[crude wolf]

its kinda a good side hustle

if you know what you doing

if you know which parts to get

or you can wait for those flash sales

[wooden marten]

by the gpu?

[crude wolf]

you can make a good pc and sell it for a huge profit

[wooden marten]

like gpu bottlenecking cpu or other way

[crude wolf]

Probably

im not a computer expert idk if you done another test

for longer to see how often it dips

[craggy shoal]

P1S could print this bunny in 2.5 hours with a 0.4mm nozzle where my Ender 3 is gonna take 8.5 hours with a 0.6mm nozzle

😭

bruh that's insane

I'm convinced

[crude wolf]

Ay sometimes more expensive is better

[craggy shoal]

gonna wait a couple paychecks though

worth it in my case

I could be wrong but I think it's a bit quieter too (compared to my Ender 3)

or if it isn't, at least it's quicker and I won't have to hear it for too long

[crude wolf]

How much you get per paycheck

[craggy shoal]

less than $1K

every two weeks

[crude wolf]

part time job

[craggy shoal]

actually, two part time jobs. one is IT at a school and I'm a manager at the other (my parents' company)

[dusk knot]

Same

Not same. I only have one job

[crude wolf]

Damm its a family business

I dont work any jobs

There were summer jobs

Only for 11 and 12th graders

[craggy shoal]

hopefully my parents hand me some money this Easter and then I'll just go get my P1S at Micro Center

[crude wolf]

But im in 9th grade and what we have to do is go to another school

Just go to the school 2x a week

for 2 months

and you make 750$

[craggy shoal]

bro

lucky

[crude wolf]

Which is pretty low

750 dont seem like enough

if i wanna build a high end gaming setup

[leaden pewter]

I've still got my Voxelab Aquila x2 but poor thing disassembled due to my apartment being too small

[craggy shoal]

$750 per week?

[crude wolf]

no

750 for 2 months

[craggy shoal]

oh gotcha

[crude wolf]

i didnt like the rates

since for the 11th and 12th graders

they can work at a fast food restaurant

and can make 14th / hour

[dusk trail]

they are paying people a little bit each week to stay in school

[crude wolf]

and make 112 a day

[velvet summit]

more like "fumes that you should not breath in"

[crude wolf]

just do some stuff and go home

[crude wolf]

idk if it will be useful

or it will be irrelevant

[dusk trail]

they are incentivising people to not totally drop out of school

[crude wolf]

idk about that

But i’ll probably make a gig on fiverr

with the experience of my own knowledge on pc building

or i can just put up a gig where someone can pay me if they need help

building their pc

[craggy shoal]

yeah 💀

it's in small portions though. It's not too dangerous

[crude wolf]

Or get a affiliate link from a pc part website or newegg

[velvet summit]

if you could avoid it basically entirely though

[craggy shoal]

plus I'm probably going to get a P1S or something else that's enclosed anyways before I print ABS

[crude wolf]

If i do i could make passive income

Depending on how often i post on my twitter or instagram

[craggy shoal]

passive income is difficult

but try it and see how it goes

[velvet summit]

passive income isnt hard
having enough passive income is hard

[crude wolf]

I dont see it as difficult

But if i wanna get a affiliate link i can

But trying to get people to buy stuff

to make commissions

is another thing

since i need to have thousands of followers

and the people buying will have to be pc builders

[velvet summit]

note that abs continues to offgas for a while after printing, so you probably want to wait like 6 hours probably before actually bringing it into your living space

[crude wolf]

another thing you can do for passive income is crypto mining

[velvet summit]

i tried to look at how long it continues to offgas for but i couldnt find any concrete numbers

[crude wolf]

But you need to have alot first

Like 3000 or even more

[craggy shoal]

and what if I have an air purifier in my room?

[velvet summit]

seems to depend on the plastic

[crude wolf]

And im not fully sure how much exactly ill make

[craggy shoal]

bruh don't waste your time in crypto

[velvet summit]

hmm

[crude wolf]

Nah i see value in crypto

just avoid coins promoted heavily by influencers

[craggy shoal]

you'll spend more time figuring out which currencies are profitable and how to set up each miner

[craggy shoal]

this fr though

[velvet summit]

you'll need a filter that has activated carbon to filter out the compounds that offgas it seems

[crude wolf]

if i am able to get a wide range of statistics on how much people make with how much their setup cost it can be easier

But on average its 30$ / hour

but i seen online that you can make a average of $5000 a day

which is bonkers

[velvet summit]

you'd need quite a expensive setup for 30/h
and that wouldnt include electrical or house cooling costs
and it would probably take a while to break even

[crude wolf]

No way a average crypto mining setup can make that much in a day even if it costs 3000 meaning it would pay for itself in one day

[craggy shoal]

I'd rather 3D print and have a shop that sells items

[pliant berry]

crypto mining is expensive in power

[crude wolf]

its better to print smaller stuff

[crude wolf]

and its bad for the environment

[velvet summit]

depends, if you use green power, then it's less worse for the enviroment

[craggy shoal]

1. Print item uses $0.07 worth of filament
2. Sell item for $3.99 (this includes labor and processing, increasing the price if shipping costs are involved)

[velvet summit]

but yeah

[crude wolf]

Or if you sell it using facebook marketplace

Because you can meet the buyer in person

[craggy shoal]

eh

not convenient

[crude wolf]

yea

because of gas

[craggy shoal]

but there's some small home-owned companies who do that

[craggy shoal]

nah they'll come to me

[sinful blade]

Or crochet

[craggy shoal]

I'm not driving to them 💀

[crude wolf]

depending on what car they drive

[sinful blade]

Crocheted stuff is wildly popular

[crude wolf]

its possible for that person to be a criminal

[velvet summit]

i think it was makerworld? you can upload stls, print optimizations, print profiles, etc. and get credits to redeem for a 3d printer from like bambu or filiment

[craggy shoal]

idk I need to research it

[sinful blade]

It’s not just a woman’s hobby
It’s gender neutral

I don’t do it myself, but my fiancé does

[velvet summit]

vee chuber crochet

[craggy shoal]

I can print that

less labor. cheaper cost. everybody's happy

lol

(though I'd have to paint it)

[velvet summit]

3d printer with tool changer frfr

[crude wolf]

nice

[craggy shoal]

need that multi-color system 💀

[crude wolf]

and it has detail

[craggy shoal]

P1S can do that with the AMS unit

about to get four AMS units and have a whole 16 colors 💀

$2.1K for that though 😭

definitely something to wait for

[crude wolf]

2.1k?

Nah the easiest thing is selling snacks

buy em in bulk

And its cheaper

and sell it to people

[craggy shoal]

I'm also printing as a hobby

doing primarily useful stuff

like vertically mounting my GPU because the support bracket for that is like $80 and out of stock pretty much all the time

[crude wolf]

i also did some experimenting

Doing a youtube channel

With Ai generated videos

because im kinda desperate to make some of my own income

but a month after posting my first Ai generated vid i got restricted

it was a alt account

[pliant berry]

lol

[craggy shoal]

"Please upload at least one photo." bruh I'm setting up my shop

[pliant berry]

don't try to use ai as a get money quick scheme. it almost always backfires. just look at the willy wonka guy

[craggy shoal]

like I don't have the inspiration to take a photo of something that's barely photogenic and nor do I have the energy to transfer the photo from my phone to my computer

I'm about to just start selling benchies lol

[pliant berry]

you be photographer now

[craggy shoal]

😐

Good enough

Primary color: WHITE
Secondary color: ALL I GOT IS WHITE

[crude wolf]

Ill like to see a purple boat

[craggy shoal]

AIN'T GOT PERPLE