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Huh
The cooler isn't supposed to go to the psu
That's a shame
80% of my projects are either on gitlab or they are private
I haven't started building yet n never built a PC before jus took a wild guess
So where would it plug into?
Like the RGB cord because how would that be powered n controlled
motherboard, if it has an ARGB header
make sure it's ARGB or else you'll fry your ARGB leds
because there is a "RGB" header and "ARGB" header, and RGB headers are 12v while ARGB is 5v
and they're pinned the same afaik
RGB headers have 4 pins, ARGB has 3
If it is a generic connector they will look similar but the ARGB connector will have one of the slots filled
Mine 100%
Private xD
I finally found out what my Xbox one s had wrong with it
It’s a fan problem
Never would’ve suspected it if it weren’t for people here
Had this thing for nearly a decade if my memory serves me right
Yeah, over a decade and 2 months
i love the really detailed video you provided for context
One S came out in 2016 by the way 
2013
Oh wait
I’m dumb
So 7 years
Onlyfans wants to sue me???
I DIDN'T EVEN DO NUN
Noise
Idk if this is right channel for it maybe build chat is better but out of curiosity how difficult was y'all's first build
Curious as to if some of you did it with ease or if others made big mistakes
ez tbh
i just struggled with cables
That's my only discomfort
Haven't built mine yet n suprinslgy not as stressed coming up to it as I thought I would probably be
youll be fine tbh
just understand what youre doing and dont be afraid to look it up
But I jus don't want to accidently connect something where it isn't supposed to be n one click n I fry something or wtv
read the manual if you have to
Thx
only $100??
I spent a little bit of time experimenting with truenas in vmware
And it's already 2am
same one from acer is 100 on tiktok as well
it's worth it for 100
no reviews but i doubt it's terrible
Can u link that one rodlp
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Ily
Can anyone confirm it's nc
Wait it's a va. Would a 24inch 1080 Ip panel be better?
Like significantly better
I was looking at two ip panels one was 120 the other was 110 I think
Wouldn't mind paying a little more if it is decently better
I got the 27 inch version of that for my brother, it seems decent
Didn’t come with a dp cable tho
hi
now that i finaly have more money can someone help me chose a board
there is also this
for way cheaper
it is opn sale
on
but reviews are not good on it
No dp cable is such a stupid thing
I feel like if ur gonna spend decent money on a 27 inch why not jus add a dp cable
Maybe because the monitor's hdmi version supports higher bandwidth than displayport
should i get the msi board
hello can anyone help me chose
I ain't gonna answer cuz idk
Was just saying, cuz it's not very helpful to ask for help without like, giving context
idk whats better too
what conext
im between these 2
oh nah
what
i just wrote a paragraph and dyno deleted it
anyway
i ordered a monitor
the god awful delivery selection
led to me ordering click and collect
in a different australian state
and now i have no monitor and no money


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I'm too big
To use sweaters
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It makes me look hella fat
Like 130kgs
40% Body fat
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I am back after almost month.
well i have an interesting issue. PC reboots after getting to windows as if you unplug it. but its only after its off for extended periods so if i turn the pc off for 1hr and come back it doesnt do it.
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?
I had a dream about how evian water was making people sick in Australia
That was… different
idk I could be wrong but maybe you should get the one that's better
idk which is better
well idk either
they have mixed reviews
idk what your needs are for a motherboards so I'm not going to pick for you
just google each of them
ok
Right one I think
I mean if you want my advice, I used to use an AB350 Pro4 (ASRock board) and it wasn't bad. Idk much about Gigabyte, as I personally don't like them and their dual-BIOS system
Yeah aorus is better
but I mean that's all I can say. I otherwise don't know much about them
I'd say second
Or check which io you like more, or maybe one has an extra m.2 slot
Functionally they'll be the same
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damn
I went for the gigabyte board because I'm p sure I read that the asrock one doesn't have bios qflash plus
r whatever
or
you don't need flashback on am4 anymore but it's nice to have I suppose
wait what
well it's a dead end platform lol
value wise tho
4070s is still much better for blender
given where xtx sits in the chart
ik but like it's still usable isn't it
Wtf
yep
crazy stuff when i saw that
That's enormous
goes to show how much power amd gpus have, they just have wack software support
PLEASE MAKE OPTIX WORK

LOL
zlwhat
ye
amd fanboys 
Nvidia optix working on Zluda would be insane
Like AMD finally coming up to stand toe to toe in like 95% of normal things people use
Just recently Intel(?) made a vow to bring down CUDA
Because it truly has a market lock
Nvidia's true strengths lie in cuda and tensor
😂
Oh boy, here we go again
The ps5 ports never failing to impress
What jank graphics will we see this time?
Naughty Dog and Playstation studios have recently collaborated with the guys who ported Arkham Knight on PC back in the day, somehow they came to an agreement and thought that it was a good idea to hire them for The Last of Us PC Port, as you can clearly see in this Video the game is horrible, it does not run properly . It doesn't matter if I ha...
Oh insomniac actually did a good job with ratchet and clank
Understated how good that port was
Granted, relatively speaking
It was ported just fine
So therefore good
In this context

nixxes is probably the best company to port playstation games
Poop in your butt it is
Insomiac >>>
What even nixxes done for ports lah?
What even they is done for ports ah?
No really what ports have they done I don't even know
I am absolutely not surprised one bit.
they done the spiderman and milesmorales port
-ratchet and clank rift apart
-and more
Companies that specialize in porting games seem to do way better than ones just porting their own old games
Oh I thought insomniac did ratchet and clank
Muh bad
I mean they definitely have in the past, it's their damn game lmao
Not undastando
must have
Anybody know if it is possible to revert the effects of ThrottleStop?
Like a way to go back to the system defaults across the biard, cause throttlestop has done something to my PC I cannot seem to fix
My laptop is pera-locked to a very very low TDP that has made it very very slow, and I cannot figure out how to revert it. The only way I can fix it in any capacity is to put my laptop to high perf mofr, but then that sets the CPU to 30 watts, which absolutely murders battery life
Yeah
nuts
man-spider
Guys what happened to free shipping in ksa???
Yea but its beyond braindead
yo
fellas
that have copilot
so
I'm a student
and I got access to the student pack
but
it didn't give me access to the copilot
even tho it's described as one of the benefits
u have to email copilot for it
also when usign up for copilot it wont be just instant i think u have to wait xd
and add me as a subscriber
yeah ikik
thing is I did that like
18h ago
👀
I might need to redo my config for neovim
i got banned there back in 2017 or so for posting memes
they were terribly unfunny computer memes
they had a strict no memes policy no matter what the meme is
for some reason
I got banned there back in a week ago 
yall are outlaws
Apparently the insurance company says I'm young at 31 years old
nah dawg
And wants to charge me over 1k for every 6 months
All I did was post a video that had a windows 10 key sponsor and that’s “piracy” apparently
you are in the door of death
im pretty sure ltt already sponsered smth like that aswell
Ya I stopped caring about that
That and the people In that server are pretty stupid, if you talk to them about overclocking they call you an idiot for what they don’t understand 
yeah lmao
Lol
are memes still banned
Minecraft discord has another discord server just for asking unbans
I mean you can post them unless someone mod pings

back when i was in the ltt discord, they wrote that you can post memes in the memes channel, but there is no memes channel
Ya still banned
can or cant
i didnt read the whole rule, because right after that, it said (there is no memes channel so you arent allowed to post memes)
can
ow
which is why i got confused
because i didnt read the whole rule
i usually just check i agree
and press continue
in any software instaltion i do
xD
but yeah, even reaction images were considered memes apparently
but fr read rules at discord.. you guys dont know how they run those server
those sets of rules keep them sane
at least that was how i got banned
wonder why they didn’t do the last of us port
It’s less strict last time I was there
why sony decided to hire the guys who made the terrible Arkham port we will never know
But there’s more people that complain now if you do something they don’t like 💀
i posted a meme, got warned but didnt notice apparently
posted another meme, got warned, and i did see that one
then posted an reaction image, then got banned
perma banned
💀
i asked for an appeal a year later and
💀 all I did was send a video who had a Key website as their sponsor
wait
it wasnt even a reaction image
i got banned for accidentally referencing steamed hams
😭😭
My other one was for “misinformation” -I called the 3060 ti a 1440p gpu 💀
Apparently that’s false info
my terrible writing
LOL for steamed ham 😭
it would be if most games werent completely unoptimized console tier garbage

unless u use dlss, yea
720p and so on all the way to 0p
D:
good way for nvidia to keep u buyin dem cardz
Not when ULSS is out
It’s still 1440p over 60 fps at ultra gpu
that depends what games u play
Ppl in that server are awful trust me, there’s these like 2 or 3 ppl who will argue with you on anything literally 💀
for cod, sure. but not squad lol
russian people: exist
everyone else: 
a truly weird timeline we live in, for sure
I’m guessing it’s because of the ongoing war but it’s still incredibly strange
“Oh, where are you from?”
“I’m from Russia-“
instantly banned
Yeah it’s really weird
Imagine getting banned because you pointed out that Linus dropped a GPU again
Probably the only server where that can happen
Nah but you’d get banned for disagreeing with ppl 
Like legit I said something about overclocking and someone was saying it’s bs and starting throwing insults at me, I mod pinged him. Nothing. He keeps on doing this, and I told him to fk off or something and they mute me 
probably was busy on another project
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Toda...
modern internet is insane... I click download on a ~1 GB program I just bought, click out to another tab and get an alert that the download is finished before I can even start anything else lol
I remember when it used to take me >1 hour to download 1 GB
must be nice to have fast internet
100down should've been the minimum for todays software
I have 500 to 600 down
yep...
Mines 150 💀 i thought that was really fast
56k still exists too
🗿
Used to be on 12mbps 💀💀
nice uplift
an 8 bit microcontroller can send data faster than that, not even kidding
XD like 30 I think now
For 150 yeah
Used to be like 32 for 12mbps cuz it wasn’t available before where I live to get 150 💀
I think they did some expansion
It’s 150/ 15 tho 
mods please moderate in the #mods channel thanks
yeah I've seen a cheap Arduino doing 90k+ baud over serial pretty easily
even though 9600 baud is their default
I have one Arduino board that uses full USB 2.0 speed... so it can send data in megabits
ofc its 32-bit not 8
Im hoping its just my old laptop thats causing my internet to be slow
do some aux cords sound different / better to others cause why these beats headphones sounds better with this broken auxcord than a spare
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some cords have better shielding than others. Other than that no not really it's mostly just snake oil
ah cheers tbf i think the broken ones came with the beats and my spare ive never really used before and is probably like 20 years old
or could have been my phone connection at this point it got repaired recently and the cable is less broken now than before
You probably just prefer bass-heavy headphones
i mean proably but like the aux itself was actaully changing the sound being output from phone to headphones when i changed the aux connecting it
Bugs carry pathogens, eating bugs is not the future if we actually want a future
buy em all
Placebo most likely unless one aux cord is like 3 feet with the second being 100ft
Maybe ima do a bit of checking and stuff cause one just sounded a lot more grainy and had less clarity
Yh i need a new aux cord anyway so might as well get one for the headphones too. Just rechecked and one does sound worse needs to be way louder to hear the same volume and can't hear some of the music as well as other cord
They like 5 quid anyway not much
Poor gang
Me remembering that I got banned from some random server for saying AIBs were about as bad as eBay scalpers during the peak of the GPU shortage. Apparently they think AIBs should be treated like gods for scalping people while eBay scalpers should be treated like demons, idk.
there's definitely a difference (though I don't think AIBs are/were gods)
AIBs increased prices because demand was higher than supply
Scalpers took advantage of low supply and botted/hoarded GPUs to resell
COGs didnt really change for them tho (unless Nvidia changed prices for die/mem). Many bad cases of demand/supply is just "professionally scalping" (of course not all tho). Taking advantage of the market and such.
cog = cost of goods?
Ye
ok
I mean, I do see that view. But they weren't artificially lowering supply in order to increase prices (which scalpers were)
tbh miners probably ate up more supply than scalpers tho
they were using the cards at least
mining and ai certainly didn't help
Scalpers usually provided better service to most non-US people tbf. AIBs and retailers only cared about the US and tried hard to never ship anything. It was almost impossible for me to get Nvidia cards unless I travelled 2hrs on a bus.
NgreedAI
Sure lack of shipping was partly cuz of scalpers, but scalpers were a pretty small part of the market.
(at least for Best Buy) in-store pickup only was to deter scalpers
but yeah im in US so don't have that view of the market outside
Im in CAN, most of those who did shipping were US only. Pickup only was also kinda dumb tbf cuz I find it likely scalpers are the ones to have time to camp.
for my BB card I was able to buy it online but had to go do in store pickup
I guess that doesn't really help botting, at least compared to a 1 gpu per address or credit card or something
idk
💀💀 they were almost as bad
CAN BB did that later on. But it took quite a while, iirc they did that like a month away from GPUs being semi-easy-ish of getting for the average person.
yeah even in US it took them a while to implement that

imagine not being rich lmao
😂
sure
what are you connecting?
3 pin rgb header
4 pin pwm fan right?
so a fan hub
is this the wires needed to power the hub? or its already powered
ok
wait
it seems like its powered by sata in that pic ye
so i guess you can plug that 4 pin to a sys_fan header on your motherboard
That's Sata right
for the 3 pin rgb cord you gotta check your board for that
yea thats the power connector for sata
Ic
dont unplug k
yea
that hub can be used to control the remaining fans on your system except cpu cooler
Ic
so like front, top, back fans
Does orientation matter?
I meant orientation for this lol is this correct
👍
Kk
Is this one necessary?
Can I just plug it into the fan hub on the back?
Is this a spot?
thats the rgb header
For the 3pin rgb cord
yes
So that's the right spot? Sorry for asking so much
just gotta use your eyes ig
for troubleshooting your can reseat your ram, cpu, or gpu
did it show any sign of life
0 sign
hm
I'll retry the screwdriver method
Lifr
Life
With the screwdriver method it turns on for a second with a beeping sound I never heard before
guess there is another rgb header here
The gpu flashes red
how many beeps have you heard?
was it long or short?
i hate modern boards that have no debug leds
💀
100%
that looks like a ded psu to me
hmm its failing to start no matter how much you try
it fired up
^^^
but fails
Really?
that's a dead psu
It passed the paperclip test thou
😳
paperclip test is just to see if it turns on
Ic
or there's something that's shorting
Do you think evga wil still cover its 5 year warranty? It's been less than a year
gotta replug everything
they should
ye
Warranty comes with product right? It's not some extra fee?
so is evga dying?
they're not selling on website anymore
all their stuff says purchase from partners
It's up
idk
No monitor display yet
Also my Evga ge came with an exploded silica packet I had to clean up
foxy what would you suggest for a 1000w psu for my 3090 and 13700kjf
psu is dying but phanteks may not honor since i dont have the invoice
☠️
If the monitor has no display what should I do?
it was a friend that bought it for me and since stopped talking to me whoops
check your display outputs, or reseat the gpu
Kk
what does the debug light show?
gimme a sec
uh
Fans no spinning one sec
that's a vbios or fan profile switch
Ohhh
Last time when my friend was building
We hit the switch then it started displaying
wait a minute...
I don't think I touched it ever since it shutdown thou
funny story, i have an XFX RX 570 that wouldn't post because the bios switch was on the OC profile, but it worked using the silent fan profile
whats your gpu model?
seems to be a new amd card
im gonna rma again
boop
Will plugging in a mouse and keyboard do anything? I remember doing a build and the mobo lit up bc nothing was in
wont do anything afaik
It goes back to where it looks like it's a psu issue
Maybe my hdmi cable isn't plugged in all the way but I doubt
bru
I5 12400f
its either a psu problem or something is shorting
I ordered an se 214 xt the other day thinking I could install it
Ic
I'll check cables again
ok
It's probably a short if anything
PCs are complicated sometimes
Ask Felix and Sips

pure power 12 m also an option
hm alright
both good choices
Ic
Dang that's an ass hole
lol
Screws and cables in general or those parts near any connection?
well imma just deal with the bad gpu till it dies
i dont have anything to ship the gpu since its the kingpin and all
i remember shorting my motherboard using the wrong screw to install the mobo
heh...
bruh
I might done that for psu
Lol maybe
i mean, i used a fan screw for one of my psus and nothing shorted
unless you used drywall screws im sure you're fine
i think
I thought my psu was b-tier 🫠
any component can fail
I've contemplated sending it to those yt short repair guys
mayhaps 4070 super would be a good replacement?
LOL
unless you need 24gb
where can i find one lol
they did it
this for one
and yeah they made the meme name a reality
or this
if you don't wanna risk pcb cracking
gigabyte is prone to do that
then i can sell my 3090
i dont think anything is wrong i think it was just wallpaper engine glitching out
or maybe a bad cable
it was on one moniotr
monitor
don't think that's a gpu issue
nope
before i buy this gpu i want to be sure i can get a buyer for 3090
its been 6-8 months since the last one that wanted it was offering
if you get 4070s 850w psu is plenty
then yeah we can do that
didnt neewegg do that tradein thing XD
but pennies on the dollar
tho mines kingpin so ill go with my current options till they're exhausted
does this show up on trade in?
but tbh
id keep the 3090 until it dies
but didn't you need a psu?
Does a red gpu light indicate problem with pcie or the external connection?
it's a power issue
yeah i need a psu but also was considering changing gpu to something that uses less power
i pay for my own power now so it kinds hurts
it could be a short
on one hand, paying for a psu is less than trading in your 3090 for 4070 super+psu
but on another the power consumption savings is big
its not like i really play demanding titles anymore too
the planet crafter has been more recently
i mean 3090 even with low load
it probably still shoots up way higher
while 4070s probably chills at 100w
Nvidia realm
its goofy time
Alright, heres the finaly decision question; ASUS 4080 super OC for 1099 or Sapphire pulse 7900XTX for 920?
4K gaming in mind and nothing else
I do all work stuff on my mac
XTX for 920
xtx far better value
Or 4080 open box for 931
where is this?
No 4080 or 4080S is worth more than 1000
zotac
Ive never had an AMD GPU so it owuld be my first
Zotac website
To be clear raw performance the xtx is still better
But if you like RT and you know you will use it a lot, 4080 isn't bad either
Well in this case it's 10
Not 200
I never use ray tracing but wouldnt mind to actually use it
isnt zotac not good?
Ive just always heard its not as good for some reason
Yes a lot of people have a stigma about it
they had scummy marketing tactics and prices during pandemic
Electrically it's on the low end but it's functionally an nvidia approved 4080
If you don't do the open box deal then don't get a 4080/super
Just plain not worth
And just for note, for 4K
You're looking at medium-ish settings
Or adjusted to low
If you want high fps
i mean i wouldnt say across the board
Still looks ok, but this is generally how it goes
im cool as long as its 60+ unless its a copetitive game
im more single player RPG type
I'd just do the xtx if you're shying away from the zotac imo
Oops replied

Yes
The cards are pretty comparable with RT involved
And so it makes the 4080 compelling when they're both the same price
AI use is another case where nvidia is a better choice AFAIK
Yes it is
Though this is just a gaming context
Cuda on amd
It's just not worth 200 extra for effectively the same performance
You don't get $200 in extra features buying an asus card
If anything you get less than other brands like sapphire for example
Ah i see
For those with AMD cards; sapphire is considered one of the best partner cards right?
While I like the ideal of a 4080, I am simply a little scared of zotac. Though I appreciate the tip on the deal.
zotac is fine
we talked over it last night, it has potential
Nvidia would be mad if that takes off lol
nmidia
NoVidea GreedForce
Me when saml sso
Sapphire tends to have the best cards imo for QoL
Things like removeable fans
Divots in the pcie slot for easy access
Included gpu brace
Argb ports for motherboard sync
Fan ports for motherboard sync
fan ports
Software bios toggle etc etc
It's just a lot of little nice things imo
I have a fever can I put my unopened cpu cooler on my head
yes
i mean your brain is your cpu tbf
I need an IBM mainframe
apparently my laptop is OP, no LN2 with this one folks
The Randal solution
@rancid juniper they have intel 300
2 core lga 1700
UNIRONICALLY I WANTED TO DO THAT
🤢
Intel® Processor™ 300
The new Dual-Core high performance CPU
I remember when you played with funny hardware
dont
For all your minesweeper needs

for science
I forgot my pc still broken nvm
intel 300 launched or?
😭
I saw it yesterday
THIS IS ASS
😂😂
that box is ugly asf
LOL
the pentium g7400 is like 10 bucks more
$95 is hilarious
what the hell
what an ugly box
If it doesn't have the shiny sticker
wack price
I'm not buying
$95 ewaste
^^^
I wanna overclock it for the funny
expensive for 2 cores
it's like, 45 per core
omg

what are they thinking
Haha
i3 literally same price
less than 30 with todays standards
honestly
it gets worse with ebay i cant even
☠️


what the hecking heck
WHO... WHOS DOING THIS?
Yo save 10% man
...
gotta save my braincells and study
lmao
this aint it chief
i realized something
after checking the specs (only in clockspeed) its better than the pentimeme g7400
are you kidding m---
I purchased my amd gpu and it said it came with a game but how do I get the coupon code I got the email with the instructions and I made it to the point where it wants the code
You provide your proof of purchase
where and how
i did logged in and now it wants my code
yes exactly but its for a game
bruh looked through my whole email nothing is here why they gotta make it so complicated
can they resend my coupon code
yeah
ok thank you
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wacky that they dont have a website and you have to go through their discord to buy it lol
had to double take when i heard that near the end of the video
what is wrong with the naming scheme
is this thing i3? i5? i7?
none of that
why is it called "Intel Processor 300"
dunno
stupid name
all i know is that its a slightly higher clocked pentium g7400 with a horrible price tag
$100 lmao
It's Intel trying to change their naming
Maybe that's it's score in cinebench multi core
Or passmark
it exists for oems
just further suggesting it's for oems
who would be buying tray units and not retail units
gaming chromebooks go wild
Rgb on chromebook means it beats 4060
POWERED BY INTEL i7 GAMING PRCESSOR
Rbg Chromebook?!?
lenovo ironically sells one
it's marketed for cloud gaming tho
it's literally just a normal laptop without windows
how much is it
because it's making me think about how dumb of an idea it really is
just like this thing
I could think about 2 other reasons where Logitech was part of a mistake
this one in particular is just an obvious blunder
had no reason to even exist especially at a $300 price point (used to be 350)
that's steam deck money right there (also Switch Oled money)
how directional are things like these? like do you angle it towards the wifi source or more straight up?
some people still have their desktop icons showing 💀
Nah, there's one other, that I can really think that it was an obvious blunder
while we're on the subject of blunders; the ultra-light mice they're selling
I do in the second monitor
it was $600
I like heavier mice
to me, ultra-light mice are just an excuse for companies to put the cheapest possible materials in a mouse and sell it at a very high price
got one of those and it felt really, really cheap
one of those "Lightspeed" mice
I like heavy mice
I like weight in my mice as well
105gs are my goats
light mice just feel cheap
Discord keeps trying to remind me to change my username and to take w at the numbers at end
I refuse
ok
it's hip and cool to refuse against discord's changes, amiright
apparently this is worth $160
Idk why they fr won't jus let me.keeo the numbers tho
A big heavy mouse
Speciality lemme.check but I think it's cheaper on Amazon
Technically a rat I think but lets just use mouse
The pro x super light is on sale in black and white for 128
The pink is 150 tho
Not a mouse guy but I doubt there is a insane difference between the super light 2 and superlight
Prob almost exact same jus slightly lighter n slightly diff
63 grams 🤮
I garuntee you it's not that. People want light mice because less weight = less intertia -> faster reactions/twitch movements
I'd rather just use the Dell mouse that comes with every OptiPlex 3000
at least it's free and not overpriced
doesn't make it worth $160...look at the Pro X Superlight 2 screenshot
it looks overly generic & cheap
$160
But at same time u cannot expect extremely lightweight material to be as durable as other materials
but ultra light being marked up in logitech is odd
Looks don't define quality
Not a fan of charging 160 for a damn mouse but I haven't heard a single complaint about it
"it's wireless tho"
💀
if it has carbon plastic i will say it's a price well justigied
or some more special material rather than thinner plastic
If the deal stays long enough I'm definitely picking up white one on Amazon ngl
