Actually I have a couch
#general-chat
rough zinc
north crescent
Lol do you really enjoy killing all your braincells by reading the thousands of hellish views? Kinda seems like an unfun way of spending time IMO.
rough zinc
False
north crescent
Let me sleep
Stop! You have violated the law. Sleep is illegal.
rough zinc
Let me sleep
Fine, I’ll put you to sleep
devout forum
Lol do you really enjoy killing all your braincells by reading the thousands of ...
Oh I have Sabaton blasting in my ear, that makes it ironic and hilarious
rancid juniper
Hol up
rancid juniper
It's joever 💤💤💤
atomic current
rough zinc
me when mixing music
Ive Heard the same depressing ass pop song for 286 times now since Saturday and I hate it
elfin mural
remote geode
elfin mural
i hate buying audio stuff
ancient swift
i hate buying audio stuff
Don't let the audiophiles hear you
rough zinc
Audio stuff is fun to buy
elfin mural
the audiophiles are making me indecisive
ancient swift
Nah you need to listen to all the audiophile buzzwords.
mortal grail
I hate buying ear muffs
elfin mural
but they're perfect for my ears with tinnitus
ancient swift
Ignore em foxy
elfin mural
hm, ok
ancient swift
They are a super weird group
elfin mural
i'll buy what i feel is best for my ears then
rough zinc
I hate buying ear muffs
I’m bought to make you ear muff
elfin mural
did that once and ended up with the best thing ever
mortal grail
Go drink a coffee
rough zinc
normal grove
I would be burned at the stake if audiophiles captured me. Current gaming headset is air pods pro 2
rough zinc
I’m going insane
mortal grail
Bro's descending into English is his 0th language
ancient swift
I would be burned at the stake if audiophiles captured me. Current gaming headse...
I use Razer Kraken and Sony 1000mx3's lol.
rough zinc
Bro's descending into English is his 0th language
I just found out my first homework from this sound production class, my professor straight up sent us audio files from a song he produced 5 years ago and said to put a song together
I need a monster and 3 shots of vodka
elfin mural
about to buy an iem soon
mortal grail
Always good to have a bulletproof headset around (literally)
I always wonder if that kid will spend the rest of his life buying razer and I would unironically agree with the mindset
rough zinc
Now I’m comparing my mix to the mastered version and I’m being flooded with ideas on what I can do
ancient swift
I get a discount on Sennheiser ear buds and I might get some of those but I dunno
normal grove
I always wonder if that kid will spend the rest of his life buying razer and I w...
Or you take the "lightning never strikes twice in the same place" mindset lol
Valid decision either way
mortal grail
I just found out my first homework from this sound production class, my professo...
"TEACHERS SONG MAKES ME LOOOSSEEE IIITTTT"
rough zinc
Imma DM you my mix lol, you’ll see why it’s making me go crazy
icy ore
so much ice outside
sinful blade
but on wired mode
Wired > wireless anything
elfin mural
i only don't use wireless cuz charging becomes a bit of a chore
atomic current
I hate batteries
elfin mural
i only appreciate wireless in rare times
atomic current
Phone lol
steel dagger
Wired > wireless anything
No
Superlight >>>
Cant go back to wired mouses for games
So annoying
elfin mural
i use wireless mouse however
but only the aa battery powered ones
can't be bothered to charge
i don't mind the weight, but the lack of cable is good
wind quail
Wired > wireless anything
Yesn't for headphones, honestly worth it, for mouse and keeb not unless you move them around with you often like for a laptop
And even then for mouse, can be worth if you're willing to fork out
devout forum
Huh
I'm wondering
Sapphire Toxic 6900 XT for 325k HUF
Or Asrock Phantom Gaming 7900 XT for 355k HUF
elfin mural
any 7900 gre?
wind quail
Cheaper than toxic* maybe what you meant
devout forum
Toxic is the only 6900 XT that's not 300 km of travel from me
devout forum
any 7900 gre?
there's an XFX OEM one available, but I'm fairly sure it's slower than a 7800 XT which can be had for less than the GRE
elfin mural
gre isn't slower though
devout forum
gre isn't slower though
This the one?
RX-79GMBABFB
elfin mural
ye
devout forum
Well it costs more than a 7800 XT
while seemingly doing about the same perf
Like
10% more money for ~1-2% more perf
devout forum
Cheapest one is 355k
mortal grail
there's an XFX OEM one available, but I'm fairly sure it's slower than a 7800 XT...
it's not
it's definitely not far off 7800xt tho
devout forum
okay so
Asrock Challenger 7800 XT: 229k
XFX 7900 GRE OEM: 284k
Sapphire 6900 XT TOXIC Limited Edition (SKU 11308-08-20G if there is any difference): 324k
Asrock Phantom Gaming 7900 XT: 356k
elfin mural
imo 6900xt
devout forum
I'm back and forth between 7800 XT and 6900 XT
devout forum
Fair enough
the thing is that the Toxic eats a whole lot of power
But performs about as well as a 3090 so
yeah
HBU measured something like 380 watts for the GPU with the turbo
elfin mural
it's cuz it's basically the best aib there is for the card
worth it if your psu can take it
which i think it definitely will
elfin mural
easily with 7600x
devout forum
650 I don't think would be enough tho
elfin mural
i would say it's doable
devout forum
EVGA 650 GQ specifically
elfin mural
but pushing it
elfin mural
b yeah
devout forum
cuz it has 2 wires with pigtail 6+2 on each
devout forum
and I'm not sure I'd be super comfortable to do that to a 300+ watt GPU
devout forum
probably c but
reckon the 6900 XT would be good for 4k 75+ FPS? or "only" 1440p 150+
elfin mural
i would still do 1440p but that's my opinion
elfin mural
lg oled
devout forum
or the new 4k 360 Hz QD-OLEDs
devout forum
we'll just have to see later
Also
@elfin mural at 1440p DSC isn't needed for 1440p 120hz right?
elfin mural
nope
devout forum
HBR3 does 4k 120 after all
so I'd reckon even 170 would be perfectly fine with 1.4a
Should be able to do 240 at 1440p
elfin mural
ya
unreal trail
mortal grail
okay so
Asrock Challenger 7800 XT: 229k
XFX 7900 GRE OEM: 284k
Sapphire 6900 XT ...
7800 or 7900xt there
devout forum
lol
velvet summit
modern imp
7800 or 7900xt there
also the 6900XT Toxic AIO is known to fail IIRC
last mango
mortal grail
if it's anything like other aios last gen
corrosion or just plain pump failure
I wasn't privy to this, that said most of the people I knew with toxic cards either sold ages ago or disappeared of the face of discord
young matrix
I wasn't privy to this, that said most of the people I knew with toxic cards eit...
Oh my god they died
young matrix
I'm happy for you
or
Sorry for your loss
Think about it
The toxic card owners that got rid of it lived
The ones that didnt disappeared
mortal grail
are you tryna tell me
young matrix
They died
young matrix
Yes
mortal grail
young matrix
Dear god
unreal trail
rancid juniper
No way
velvet summit
surreal kernel
Alot of missing something
I am
115 away
from getting the mobo
Big stonks
💀💀
surreal kernel
Very cool
not cool
I can't wait
man
also
I'm scared about switching the mobos
what if I do something wrong
what if I don't plug stuff right
what If I bent the pins by applying too much pressure
rancid juniper
That's all on you if you don't read the manual
But aside from that it's harder to break your pc
Sort of
surreal kernel
I'm.not even kidding the first day that I bought the cpu I saw a dream of me breaking the pins
surreal kernel
That's all on you if you don't read the manual
i thought that didn't help
rancid juniper
I remember trying to install my 13600k for the first time (never installed an Intel CPU before) and it wasn't aligned properly
Thought I broke it but it was fine
surreal kernel
like I can't find the ports on the new mobo for the connectors I currently have
idk where stuff goes
what's afpp
wary fjord
hmm hogwart is on switch now.. i wonder hows the graphics downgrade on it. or is it fine
rancid juniper
AMD however, you shouldn't drop the CPU or the pins would break or be bent, and for removing the cooler it may be stuck on top of the cpu
surreal kernel
or something like that
surreal kernel
AMD however, you shouldn't drop the CPU or the pins would break or be bent, and ...
oh
wary fjord
AMD however, you shouldn't drop the CPU or the pins would break or be bent, and ...
am5 lol whats pin
rancid juniper
am5 lol whats pin
Error: pins not found
tranquil pebble
I have socket SP3/LGA 4094
surreal kernel
I remember trying to install my 13600k for the first time (never installed an In...
what if I mess up while installing my amd
cpu
rancid juniper
You can always try again
rancid juniper
I have socket SP3/LGA 4094
Sounds old joker
-morgana
surreal kernel
You can always try again
or is there like a triangle
or something
kn the cpu and mobo too
tranquil pebble
Sounds old joker
-morgana
Zen 2 but it still works fine
rancid juniper
or is there like a triangle
There is
mortal grail
TL;DR 4070Ti is ~10% faster
rancid juniper
TL;DR 4070Ti is ~10% faster
My brain burts
tranquil pebble
ngreedia go brr
mortal grail
wrong me bad me
tranquil pebble
jokes aside, the 4080 Super is something I'd consider buying
probably overkill for 1080p though rofl
rancid juniper
wrong me bad me
I could've sworn that 4070 trades blows with the 7800xt
mortal grail
you know what you're right
rancid juniper
LOL
mortal grail
mortal grail
mortal grail
https://youtu.be/mL1l4jmxLa8
scroll up
rancid juniper
SUPER
devout forum
4070 Super vids out
elfin mural
reeeepost
devout forum
Heh
mortal grail
I gotchu
rancid juniper
3 supers in a row
devout forum
I'm watching Jay first
rancid juniper
Wow
elfin mural
maybe you might wanna buy 4070 super
devout forum
elfin mural
exactly
mortal grail
elfin mural
watch hay come in and say it should've performed like 4080
rancid juniper
NOVIDEO
mortal grail
if it comes on sale this will be the new midrange choice
600 is a bit short for the perf it gave us
elfin mural
this is the nvidia i will push to people on sale
mortal grail
7800xt still better at 500
elfin mural
i wonder about 4070 ti super
mortal grail
Ti super will be more like 7900xt
elfin mural
it's 4070ti "true" edition i guess
rancid juniper
i wonder about 4070 ti super
%5 increase over 4070 super
@$800
devout forum
okay so should I expect to see the 4070 Super for roughly the same as the OG 4070?
elfin mural
didn't nvidia put 4070ti and 4070 eol
elfin mural
not roughly, same price
mortal grail
didn't nvidia put 4070ti and 4070 eol
4070 ti and 4080
elfin mural
ah
mortal grail
not sure about 4070
rancid juniper
Wow that was kinda quick imo
mortal grail
honestly the 4070 is about as forgettable as the 1650
devout forum
not roughly, same price
Not here lmao
I'd be willing to bet 20 bucks to you that the Super cards will be ~10% more expensive here than the originals
devout forum
because retailers here can get away with it
elfin mural
once the existing 4070ti and 4080 goes oos
that's where price will drop
at least for your case to a better price
devout forum
Except they never drop
If retailers here set a price
That price stays to the very last card
elfin mural
aw shucks
devout forum
I told you it's awful here
if prices move at all they move upwards
Consistently so
elfin mural
$400 for 4070 super like some people thinks it should cost are a bit crazy tbf
$500 is more realistic
that is the most i would be asking from nvidia
now i wouldn't be upset if it was really 400 new one day
devout forum
elfin mural
$600, so basically same price as 4070
devout forum
https://videocardz.com/newz/yeston-introduces-sakura-rtx-40-super-cards-with-whi...
Awoo?
rancid juniper
elfin mural
more anime gpus
rancid juniper
Very GUD
shut crystal
Kinda sucks that you can’t fill AIOs back up instead of throwing them away.
devout forum
$600, so basically same price as 4070
The absolute cheapest 4070 cost ~140 bucks more than that here
elfin mural
you can absolutely refill aios
how else would they get filled at all
some are just harder than others
but it's very much possible
devout forum
We have a ~150 USD average upcharge on basically any GPU
About 75 USD on CPUs, and often 15% on mobos
devout forum
it's legitimately awful
so me saying "OMG this is such a good deal" actually means "Holy frick we actually only have to pay MSRP for it"
cedar compass
Imagine living in EU 
elfin mural
also i would say aios, the good ones either eventually die before a refill is needed or they get outdated
devout forum
I mean fair but if I already have it and it works fine why replace it?
elfin mural
if you already have it, don't replace it lol
just don't go out of your way to buy old aios
devout forum
IMO best value is what you don't have to pay for yea
And yeah that's fair enough
tho it depends on what actually makes it over here
often the good stuff you guys in NA get never actually arrive here
like there is no place at all to get a Vetroo V5
even though it's a pretty good low-cost cooler supposedly
devout forum
Also
Hold on US MSRP is not including tax right?
devout forum
Oh
elfin mural
states with taxes get extra
devout forum
Well taxes are built into the price for us
devout forum
600 USD MSRP
We pay 750 for it
elfin mural
product price, state taxes
devout forum
Isn't that like
Exactly 30%?
elfin mural
and that's how much you're gonna end up paying
here it's like 7%
anything above is markups
elfin mural
yeah
27% is a ton of vat
sounds about right
actually a little bit cheaper before vat added
elfin mural
cuz 600+27% is 762
sad but i think it's got a small discount already
better than nothing
devout forum
cuz 600+27% is 762
tbf that's for a Gainward BLISS Ghost 4070
Which is the absolute cheapest available here
devout forum
738 USD
elfin mural
40 series are all decent enough
devout forum
interesting to see the 4070 Super being ahead of the 7800 XT
mortal grail
@elfin mural 4070 is not discontinued
devout forum
but if the 4070 Super is available for about 230k HUF then that'd be decent competition
which it probably won't
elfin mural
instant nope sadly
mortal grail
but if the 4070 Super is available for about 230k HUF then that'd be decent comp...
in your case the 6900xt red devil is still better
devout forum
I'm expecting it to be about 260k starting price here
Which would make it about 8% more expensive for 2% more perf
elfin mural
yeah
devout forum
in your case the 6900xt red devil is still better
oh yeah I am aware, I'm simply making some math happen
elfin mural
it's definitely gonna land about that
devout forum
it's definitely gonna land about that
4070 dropped at 255k for me
so
I'm expecting retailers to put some markup on it so that they can say "But the 4070 is cheaper, go buy that first"
elfin mural
lol
devout forum
or maybe they just price the Super cards quite a bit higher so old stock clears then ease off with promos
elfin mural
that'd be even more sad
devout forum
I'm fully expecting it to happen
elfin mural
i can see that being the case
devout forum
But I'll let y'all know if they're scummy enough to do that
elfin mural
"buy 4070, quick, before they're gone"
devout forum
I expect them to be
elfin mural
but i don't see them doing price drops
it's markup for sure
then stay there
cuz nvidia hasn't eol'd 4070 yet
devout forum
I mean "promo" by selling it for as much as it should've been
once 4070 stocks clear
devout forum
cuz nvidia hasn't eol'd 4070 yet
BTW wanna hear something sad?
4080s sold out on launch here
elfin mural
oof
devout forum
People just bought them up for some reason
elfin mural
problem was intentionally limited stock
devout forum
and I was just sitting here headdesking like "WHYYYYYYYYYYY"
devout forum
Oh no you misunderstood
It went oos on launch day
devout forum
and haven't really gotten back to stock ever since
devout forum
not like there that cards were sitting on the shelves
elfin mural
artificial scarcity, few examples bought just to make people hurry
devout forum
IDK anymore, I was just disappointed watching it happen
velvet summit
Tbf, usually they only put one or 2 on display so people are less likely to steal it
devout forum
and some people still say here "It's a 4k card that doesn't cost an arm and a leg"
shut crystal
Has anyone bought an AIO water cooler and it failed easily? Custom loops might be better but strangely I have a feeling water cooling could be more efficient than air cooling to reduce chance of the pc overheating
velvet summit
But still have relatively easy access (and people can see that they do have cards)
shut crystal
Due to higher thermal capacity
elfin mural
good ones don't fail easily
devout forum
Has anyone bought an AIO water cooler and it failed easily? Custom loops might b...
Depends on what CPU/GPU you want to cool
But in 99% of cases air >>>>>> water
just by
Reliability
velvet summit
Honestly imo just get an air cooler rather than an aio
elfin mural
arctic liquid freezer, ek aio, lian li, deepcool, thermalright
but an air cooler is always reliable
devout forum
Yeah Liquid Freezer II is pretty good
But it costs more and has more failure points
elfin mural
a fan breaks, you just buy another one
velvet summit
There are some instances where an aio does make more sense but the less room for failure, the better
devout forum
unless you do heavy OC just get a dual tower cooler and you'll be fine
elfin mural
liquid freezer ii has strong warranty
if you're worried maybe you should get that one
6 years
mortal grail
Has anyone bought an AIO water cooler and it failed easily? Custom loops might b...
if you had the pump at the highest point sure
elfin mural
^
mortal grail
Honestly imo just get an air cooler rather than an aio
also 
devout forum
Yeah we an air cooling community by and large
mortal grail
unless you get like any i9 or a new i7
elfin mural
debatable
mortal grail
kinda ye
devout forum
you don't necessarily need it but you'd get a lot more perf from an AIO and OC
elfin mural
if you're just gaming 7800x3d and a $30 air cooler is already fancy af
devout forum
^^^^^^
shut crystal
Don’t think air coolers are good for over clocking though and I think that’s a popular habit for pc gamers
elfin mural
you don't need to oc to game
devout forum
7800X3D and single-tower air cooler >>>>> anything else
For gaming anyway
elfin mural
and ryzen doesn't benefit much from ocing anyway
messing with ram has more tangible gains
devout forum
Don’t think air coolers are good for over clocking though and I think that’s a p...
AK620 would beg to differ
NH-D15 would beg to differ
shut crystal
Well looks like this servers a big fan of air cooling. It could be a much safer option than water cooling
devout forum
NH-D15 outperformed several AIOs for many years
mortal grail
guys
elfin mural
servers are much hotter and more condensed together
devout forum
Like outright better thermal perf
mortal grail
question
devout forum
sup Felix
mortal grail
can you get Forza Horizon 3/4 running on pc
elfin mural
server rooms are even cooled with ac
elfin mural
i would try
devout forum
oh in that regard
elfin mural
but i can't rn
tranquil pebble
servers are much hotter and more condensed together
yep, its all about that density for datacenters
devout forum
I have AMD so I can't check
elfin mural
a normal gaming pc however doesn't need any liquid cooling to function properly at maximum performance yield
mortal grail
I would be curious to know if it's also rdna 3/2
elfin mural
i do have fh4 but i can't use my lappy
mortal grail
game pass
tranquil pebble
I just like liquid cooling because its generally quieter in my experience
mortal grail
but up to u
devout forum
don't got game pass
devout forum
I just like liquid cooling because its generally quieter in my experience
I mean air coolers can literally go silent on low load, while water pumps are always on
tranquil pebble
I just like liquid cooling because its generally quieter in my experience
AIO + Threadripper = silent Threadripper even at 100% load lol
mortal grail
AIO + Threadripper = silent Threadripper even at 100% load lol
not really a layman answer tho
devout forum
I really don't think Threadripper is generally used ngl
tranquil pebble
it isnt
elfin mural
just cuz servers use liquid cooling doesn't mean your gamer rig needs it too
devout forum
Also counterpoint
Passive air cooling
tranquil pebble
and yeah liquid cooling is overkill for most people
grand kernel
ok i'm confused by this pc again
devout forum
Monsterlabo be like
"No noise? No problem"
mortal grail
did it break again
tranquil pebble
(unless you use a Core i9 for some reason)
mighty hazel
and yeah liquid cooling is overkill for most people
Kinda
grand kernel
took it out of the case, took out the battery for a few hours, started working perfectly fine, turning on consistently
elfin mural
if water cooling really was needed no gaming laptops would probably exist
grand kernel
built it back into the case and it has the same issue
elfin mural
unless it's insanely thick and boxy
mortal grail
lmfao
devout forum
(unless you use a Core i9 for some reason)
mortal grail
oh wait fr?
mighty hazel
You can get a 50 dollar 360 aio tho so is it really overkill 
mortal grail
take it back out
grand kernel
but if there really was a short, why would it be able to run normally after i use the psu tester?
elfin mural
50 dollar for which?
mortal grail
try it no case
elfin mural
there's no 50 bucks 360 aio
devout forum
You can get a 50 dollar 360 aio tho so is it really overkill <:pepehmmm:90333509...
id-Cooling 360mm AIO be like
elfin mural
that are worth it
mighty hazel
50 dollar for which?
Some thermal right one
mortal grail
if it's repeatable the case might be a problem
grand kernel
the front panel and fans all work fine
elfin mural
nah those aren't 50 for 360
mighty hazel
One sec
grand kernel
nothing out of the ordinary with the standoffs or i/o shield
devout forum
there's no 50 bucks 360 aio
This is less than an AK620
https://www.pcx.hu/id-cooling-frostflow-x-360-vizh-tes-835629?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA75itBhA6EiwAkho9e1NFdXRdcnCFRmj2VcLWbKw79rWwR2bccitrDcVV13Dk2-eDlSYIfBoCgqMQAvD_BwE
grand kernel
tested the front usb and audio it all works
i get that there must be a problem with the case
elfin mural
i don't trust the id cooling that's the thing
grand kernel
but what could the problem possibly be
elfin mural
it probably ends up being bleh
grand kernel
i can vouch for id-cooling
sweet phoenix
nah those aren't 50 for 360
In the us ye you can
devout forum
their 240 AIO matched a Corsair 240 AIO
mighty hazel
No rgb but you get what u pay for
sweet phoenix
Thermalright has some amazing options around 45-65 rn
elfin mural
but still $20 is $20 saved if you get air coolers
grand kernel
bought 9 argb fans for $3 each, lasted me about 16k hours before leds started to fail, they honored replacements right up until warranty ended 2 years later, so i still have some relatively new working ones
mighty hazel
Yea you definitely don’t need one for a lower end cpu
It’s only helpful for like the i7s and up
elfin mural
i wouldn't say overkill to go for aio, but it's a nice to have if you don't mind $20 extra
mighty hazel
Maybe 13600K that’s kinda hot
grand kernel
not saying anything about whether or not an aio is appropriate, but in my experience so far id-cooling is a great company that makes great products and stands by them
mighty hazel
I’m getting a 360 aio for my cpu
mortal grail
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/99XV3C/thermalright-frozen-prism-argb-704-cfm-l...
edge is slightly better
mighty hazel
I’m getting a 360 aio for my cpu
Because 5.1ghz go brr
mortal grail
and by slightly better I mean WAY better fans
devout forum
not saying anything about whether or not an aio is appropriate, but in my experi...
I'm using their cooler on my 7600X
The basic guy single tower
elfin mural
id cooling has good coolers too
devout forum
and I was shocked at how good it is for how cheap it was
mighty hazel
Probably this is just the cheapest one I found
grand kernel
felix do you have any ideas about what could be wrong with the case exactly
mortal grail
Probably this is just the cheapest one I found
edge is like $3 more and yes it's good
mortal grail
felix do you have any ideas about what could be wrong with the case exactly
nope but by process of elimination you could rule it out or as the issue
tranquil pebble
liquid cooler is basically an air cooler that uses liquid as heat pipes lol
grand kernel
i mean even if it's a bad case it shouldn't be causing boot problems right
mighty hazel
it's an nzxt h510 lmao
That’s what I was gonna buy before I found out they weren’t good 💀
devout forum
WHY NOT THE AIRFLOW AT LEAST
grand kernel
i didn't choose it lol
devout forum
headdesk
grand kernel
bought the whole pc for 250
mighty hazel
It really is the first build average case
devout forum
It really is the first build average case <:kekw:741678350791081994>
Well then I got the sh*tcan build case lmfao
grand kernel
with a 3700x, 32gb, 1tb, and 2070s
mighty hazel
My friend has a case that looks almost the same as an h510
grand kernel
just need to figure out what's wrong with it
mighty hazel
My friend has a case that looks almost the same as an h510
It’s an nzxt case
grand kernel
pretty sure it's the case
but then what if i buy a new case and the same problem occurs 
mighty hazel
My friend has a case that looks almost the same as an h510
S340 I think
It’s this one iirc
But it’s not as bad as people say. It’s almost the same as an h510 tho
mighty hazel
I kinda want this
mortal grail
meshify 2
tranquil pebble
I like my full towers tbh
makes for a funny when people see it and be like "WHAT is that?!"
sweet phoenix
That looks shorter than the 500
mighty hazel
I kinda want this
Or Corsair obsidian 500x those are pretty cool
tranquil pebble
makes for a funny when people see it and be like "WHAT is that?!"
also need a case that will take my SSI-EEB sized motherboard lol
mortal grail
Or Corsair obsidian 500x those are pretty cool
do you like ovens
I'm a fan of westinghouse tbh
sweet phoenix
also need a case that will take my SSI-EEB sized motherboard lol
There's the pop xl air
mighty hazel
They look clean
sweet phoenix
G500a
mighty hazel
They look clean
Yea these , 500x Corsair
mortal grail
well like all glass front cases just about
sweet phoenix
Wait g500a is a mid tower?
mortal grail
you can expect a certain result lmao
mighty hazel
tranquil pebble
There's the pop xl air
Fractal's XL cases will do the job I already confirmed by measurements they provide of the interior
sweet phoenix
Look at the 4000x
mighty hazel
Ik but the glass looks cleaner 😭😭
devout forum
I'll get an LCPower case when we have money
Throw a couple id-Cooling fans in it and be peachy
Next build is going in the Jonsbo D41 Mesh Screen
shut crystal
This is less than an AK620
https://www.pcx.hu/id-cooling-frostflow-x-360-vizh-te...
Didn’t know freeze cooling exists unless it’s just a type of water cooler
mighty hazel
Isn’t nv5 the o11d clone
grand kernel
glass front looks bad cause you know it comes with bad thermals
sweet phoenix
Kinda
grand kernel
devout forum
Didn’t know freeze cooling exists unless it’s just a type of water cooler
it's a cheap water cooler
it's called Frostflow because reasons
sweet phoenix
mighty hazel
4000x is nice but I’ve seen too many 4000d cases 😭
sweet phoenix
sweet phoenix
4000x is nice but I’ve seen too many 4000d cases 😭
Bruh
devout forum
4000x is nice but I’ve seen too many 4000d cases 😭
I'd guess because it's really popular
I mean it's still a solid case even if there are cheaper alternatives lately
sweet phoenix
I mean h6 flow isn't completely terrible
grand kernel
i wonder what case i should buy for this pc...
craggy shoal
The H6 Flow is the only NZXT case I would buy
grand kernel
should i rma the mobo first to see if that could be the problem?
tranquil pebble
my first gaming pc had an nzxt psu
sweet phoenix
4000x is nice but I’ve seen too many 4000d cases 😭
Also https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jpddnQ/montech-sky-two-atx-mid-tower-case-sky-two-black
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7qQKHx/montech-king-95-pro-atx-mid-tower-case-king-95-pro-black
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Frn9TW/montech-king-95-atx-mid-tower-case-king-95-black
mighty hazel
I'd guess because it's really popular
Yea I just feel like it’s too over used too many people got it
grand kernel
i know the guy that built it plugged the wifi card's usb cable into a com1 port instead of an actual usb port
not sure if that would damage anything
the wifi card still works fine
sweet phoenix
Yea I just feel like it’s too over used too many people got it <:kekw:7416783507...
Why is that something that deters you
Like
mighty hazel
3000d looks cool tho
Idk it’s just 4000d is like the average build starter pack 😭
I kinda want a more unique one
craggy shoal
@grand kernel idk if I should be allowed to do what I did in #ranks-and-levels but I thought I should let you know (talking about the AI generation)
storm narwhal
But like, why?
young matrix
Maybe 13600K that’s kinda hot
13600k can be handled with a single tower if you use the power limit
storm narwhal
I'm totally fine with having a case a lot of people have if it's a good case
mighty hazel
But like, why?
It might piss some people off me saying it but if too many people use it it gets a bit generic
mighty hazel
I just want a case that looks different from most cases. A lot of cases look like the 4000d
storm narwhal
Fair, fair
mortal grail
I kinda want a more unique one
The 1st half of the entire reason SFF exists
craggy shoal
It might piss some people off me saying it but if too many people use it it gets...
nah I agree. Same thing I kept seeing builds on Reddit, everybody was using the H510
mighty hazel
I just want a case that looks different from most cases. A lot of cases look lik...
Like most of the cooler master cases look like a glass version of the 4000d
storm narwhal
good thing is lots of new sff cases coming out this year lol
storm narwhal
nah I agree. Same thing I kept seeing builds on Reddit, everybody was using the ...
see the h510 is just hot garbage as a case
mighty hazel
>The 1st half of the entire reason SFF exists
Yea mini itx are dope hard to build In a small space tho
craggy shoal
see the h510 is just hot garbage as a case
lol and yet it's still an overused case. you look like a complete beginner if you use it
storm narwhal
true, because they know nothing about pc cases lol
if you actually know anything about pc cases you know not to use it
sweet phoenix
It’s the case almost every streamer has <:kekw:741678350791081994>
The king 95 is a pretty new case not many people have
Great case too
craggy shoal
At the time the H510 was being overused, that was a new generation of the "will this bottleneck?" people in 2018
storm narwhal
oh, cringe
this online calculator told me my cpu bottlenecks my fans by 54%
so i need a better cpu
and I won't listen to any feedback
craggy shoal
"I just upgraded my GPU and now my games are stuttering" probably how it all started
worthy meteor
No it says your GPU bottlenecks your CPU so you should just use a core 2 duo
storm narwhal
duh
storm narwhal
it truly should just be called hog wart
on the switch
everything looks like a wart
mortal grail
At the time the H510 was being overused, that was a new generation of the "will ...
tbf, everything was skylake
like
everythinng
storm narwhal
14nm+++++++++++
devout forum
Yea I just feel like it’s too over used too many people got it <:kekw:7416783507...
then mod yours
Paint it in Lambo orange and put white racing stripes on it
craggy shoal
tbf, everything was skylake
yeah in 2015-2016. but then Ryzen emerged and I think that's when the term "bottleneck" became exposed to the new people
everybody (me included) was excited about "mawr cores"
devout forum
also Felix
I feel like the D41 should be WAAAAAAAAAAAY more prominent
devout forum
everybody (me included) was excited about "mawr cores"
And turns out we were right to do so
tranquil pebble
the birth of userbenchmark
its actually a mispronounced uselessbenchmark
mortal grail
the Jonsbo case you (?) showed to me
what about it
storm narwhal
Little known fact
mortal grail
?
storm narwhal
indeed
craggy shoal
lol userbenchmark, Ryzen, and the overuse of the word "bottleneck". what a year
mortal grail
tranquil pebble
UBM = undefined behavior mark
devout forum
what about it
I feel like it should be way more known and loved than it is
mortal grail
I feel like it should be way more known and loved than it is
I simp it all the time
worthy meteor
Ubm reviews are just the onion for computer components
devout forum
I can see why
devout forum
Ubm reviews are just the onion for computer components
OI don't you dare dissing onion
Onion is great
worthy meteor
Yea the onion makes good satire
devout forum
UBM simply makes you depressed
worthy meteor
But ubm reviews are so bad it's funny
tranquil pebble
Yea the onion makes good satire
often times the satire has a point to it too
storm narwhal
Ubm doesn't really have a rhyme or reason
tranquil pebble
UBM = undefined behavior mark. Nasal demons in your benchmarks.
mortal grail
gonna ask again if anyone can help
anyone able to try fh4 and see if it works
and their cpu+gpu comp if possible
tranquil pebble
anyone able to try fh4 and see if it works
Zen 2 + RDNA 1 works
storm narwhal
only have fh5 rip
tranquil pebble
oh yeah, FH is known to favor AMD cards, but it should definitely still run fine
mortal grail
I thought "Oh maybe it's the 7950x3d" turns out no, intel as well affected
ye I know, but my 3090 used to have zero issues
tranquil pebble
Nvidia driver fail?
mortal grail
nothing stated
tranquil pebble
9400 GT was the latest Nvidia card I used so idk
mortal grail
honestly I've had more issues with 40 series than RDNA 3 at this point
tranquil pebble
one thing Radeon has never given me trouble with is running games
craggy shoal
Guys don't buy nvidia they have driver issues
ironic lolll
storm narwhal
tranquil pebble
kinda like intel being the heat monsters now instead of amd
mortal grail
Guys don't buy nvidia they have driver issues
well I really don't want to say it like that but my personal experience for the last year and a half has been this way
sweet phoenix
No I know I'm just joking
storm narwhal
and remember intel's ridiculous slide set
mortal grail
if I count nvsurround, since 3 years ago
storm narwhal
making fun of amd but then clowning themselves too
sweet phoenix
If I were to buy a gpu soon it'd be 4070 ti super ideally
tranquil pebble
making fun of amd but then clowning themselves too
karma sucks, doesnt it intel? lol
mortal grail
APO was the biggest meme in a while
elfin mural
i bought my second ever pair of iems back in 2021
and now i came back 3 years later to buy from same shop again, but different model
craggy shoal
I want a Miata
tranquil pebble
cute little cars ngl
craggy shoal
tranquil pebble
Miku katana
dusk knot
Racing
pliant berry
no more racing
wary fjord
imagine crashing
wind quail
anyone know how to code with java
Been a few years but yeah what's up
carmine reef
so basically I have a final and I had to make a game and I dont know how to take an array from one java file to the other
I have this:
int [] sentenceLength = {
10, 9, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 7, 10
};
and I want to take it to a different file with something between the [] brakets
mortal grail
let's ask chatgpt
wind quail
and I want to take it to a different file with something between the [] brakets
So what you wanna do is import the java file into the main file
Or just put it all in the same file
mortal grail
it's typing the answer
rancid juniper
wind quail
Or you could just write everything in one java file
rancid juniper
Programming
modern imp
bruh
don't UV RDNA3 it's nearly impossible to stability test due to the massive clock deficit in workloads
just stick to stock voltage and give more power
rancid juniper
don't UV RDNA3 it's nearly impossible to stability test due to the massive clock...
1060mv runs just fine but I don't want to give it any more power
On max that brick sucks 300w+ for 10fps more and the temps go way higher than it should
-15pwr (238w) is sufficient for me
And that crash happened around an hour (1.000mv)
carmine reef
let's ask chatgpt
I tried chat didnt do anything
carmine reef
Or just put it all in the same file
ive been doing that but teacher wants us to learn how to do it with multiple files
wind quail
I tried chat didnt do anything
Google how to import variables from other java files or something like that
wind quail
I tried chat didnt do anything
That's because the one chat gave is missing a path
So it doesn't know which file it's supposed to be calling
carmine reef
alright thanks
ill prob watch a youtube video
only probelm is i have 2 other finals to do lol
mortal grail
rancid juniper
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/573905138524356611/1196874950263443579/20...
So true
💀
pliant berry
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/573905138524356611/1196874950263443579/20...
this reminds me of genshin
although I like the story I wish it actually had some choice in the prompts
rancid juniper
although I like the story I wish it actually had some choice in the prompts
Story was interesting for a while but then I just couldn't take it
Too much
pliant berry
I just get tired of having to listen to them so long
Now I just keep it on auto play on my steam deck while i go around the house doing something else
dusk knot
Little do they know that consoles run at lower settings
mighty hazel
It’s also not with ray tracing
With rt it’s like 30
Or 45
It’s 120 fps on a few games like fortnite or overwatch
Which even like a 2070 or a 2060 super is gonna run at like 500 fps on lower settings
dusk knot
Right
rancid juniper
You can feel the cope <:kekw:741678350791081994>
They don't know what rendering techniques these consoles use
modest rover
So uh
rancid juniper
Copious amount of graphics tweaks and optimization just to make it butter smooth
modest rover
Should I plug it in so the fan on the gpu helps dry it?
rancid juniper
Yes
rancid juniper
And blow hot air
modest rover
I put vegetable oil on it. Someone told me that helps
modest rover
👌 Dope
rancid juniper
👍
grand kernel
dude what are you doing
stop
everyone knows the best way to dry a gpu is with a blowtorch
modest rover
That would make more sense
Because it's hotter?
Maybe I'll just run an intense game and let it overheat
grand kernel
yeah you can coat the gpu in gasoline first to speed it up
mighty hazel
They don't know what rendering techniques these consoles use
Fr. I started a whole riot in another server just cuz I said 4k on console isn’t the same as 4k on pc cause they use like lower res textures and low poly objects
Some people really like thinking console is better or the same
rancid juniper
I mean that's fine if it can play their favorite games but if they are going to just dunk on or ridicule PC users they gotta understand what they're talking about
Because let's be real, they could be the same people that don't know what a CPU is today
mighty hazel
Nah it was cuz I said a 600 dollar pc (with a used gpu etc) will outperform a ps5 or at least match it
rancid juniper
Oh 💀
mighty hazel
And that pissed some people off
rancid juniper
Easy way to make some people mad bro
mighty hazel
Even tho u can cuz that’d be like a 6700xt or a 2080/ 5600
ancient swift
Imagine starting PC vs console wars
mighty hazel
Even tho u can cuz that’d be like a 6700xt or a 2080/ 5600
Which can beat a ps5
Might even get a 3070/ti if you’re good at negotiating
And I guess some people didn’t wanna admit that a 600 dollar pc will beat it
They said “but ps5 can do 4k a 6700xt cant “😭
Which is 100% bs
ancient swift
You both seem insufferable ngl
rancid juniper
mighty hazel
I mean I’m just saying it how it is
ancient swift
You starting the whole thing because you want to, and them for feeding it
mighty hazel
Nah it was cuz someone was recommending buy a console if u have 600 bucks
So I said u can get a pc with a used gpu that will perform better or at least the same
mighty hazel
Even new it’s like a 6600xt or a 3060 at the very least it would match a ps5
rancid juniper
Yes but you gotta realize that some people just prefer to use consoles
No matter what good deal a pc has
When you think about it, it is easier to just plug and play
mighty hazel
It is easier to setup
rancid juniper
No troubleshoot or anything
mighty hazel
U don’t have to download drivers and stuff
devout forum
You can also just
Plug your controller into the PC and play the same way
rancid juniper
Yes
mighty hazel
Or look at minimum specs and settings
rancid juniper
Yep
devout forum
U don’t have to download drivers and stuff
I mean yeah but you're also paying a not insignificant amount of money to play at all online
And you still need to buy games
mighty hazel
I mean yeah but you're also paying a not insignificant amount of money to play a...
That too
ancient swift
Plenty of reasons people like consoles, plenty of reasons to get a PC.
mighty hazel
And u don’t have things like steam sale
rancid juniper
I mean yeah but you're also paying a not insignificant amount of money to play a...
Well, they still buy
rancid juniper
Plenty of reasons people like consoles, plenty of reasons to get a PC.
This
devout forum
I suppose it's a matter of expectations
ancient swift
And u don’t have things like steam sale
The PS and Xbox sales are most of the time just as good. And they can get used games.
devout forum
Don't get me wrong I'm not against consoles
Hell I'd love to get a Series X because it's amazing in a living room
devout forum
The PS and Xbox sales are most of the time just as good. And they can get used g...
Not for newer generations
ancient swift
The better suggestion is things like humblebundle and fanatical which Xbox and PS don't have.
mighty hazel
The PS and Xbox sales are most of the time just as good. And they can get used g...
They cost more and I don’t know what u mean by used games
mighty hazel
They cost more and I don’t know what u mean by used games
They just buy em on the ps store or whatever. I don’t think most people buy cd’s
ancient swift
Current gen consoles register your games to your account
That's the biggest loss of Bs I've ever read
devout forum
That pld argument of "Just buy used games" ain't working on consoles anymore
ancient swift
They do no such thing
mighty hazel
Who even buys cd’s for games
ancient swift
I've bought used games for both Xbox and PS
rancid juniper
With the upcoming switch console, I'm tempted to get it even if I know DAMN WELL it can be emulated on pc
mighty hazel
Who even buys cd’s for games
Do they make them ?
devout forum
In the past yes
For PS4/XBox One sure
But the Series consoles and the PS5 revolve around the online store
The Blu-ray you buy for your PS5 don't contain the whole game
ancient swift
But the Series consoles and the PS5 revolve around the online store
And they still make the games.
mighty hazel
Yea I’ve bought games for PS4 , I don’t know how it is for ps5 I don’t have one
Barely
devout forum
A sizable chunk of it will have to come from the app store ANYWAY
And the activation code is single use
rancid juniper
The Blu-ray you buy for your PS5 don't contain the whole game
I mean, that's a given considering how big these games get to the point where you need an SSD to use them
ancient swift
See what I mean about insufferable, y'all are just making stuff up to defend PCs that don't need defending.
rancid juniper
See what I mean about insufferable, y'all are just making stuff up to defend PCs...
💀
mighty hazel
It’s true they really don’t make cd’s for most games
devout forum
Bro I'm simply pointing out that the old argument of "Just buy games used" isn't working anymore
mighty hazel
And if they do it’s barely anyone buying em, let alone a used market for it
ancient swift
They still make game discs on the new consoles, they DO NOT lock them to your account. Used markets literally still exist.
devout forum
Surely you have more in favor of consoles if they are so great
ancient swift
And both the PS5 and Xbox 1 play the backwards compatible games.
mighty hazel
I don’t think anyone’s buying cd’s for games anymore. Maybe for PS4, but on ps5 it’s a no
ancient swift
Nintendo about to pull the 3D-Nand card with their next switch
Honestly I don't think there'd be a huge benefit for them to go faster
rancid juniper
Afaik Xbox went ahead and made resolution and 60fps patches to their x360 games for the XBOX SERIES X/S
devout forum
Meanwhile the PC emulating all the consoles be like
ancient swift
I don’t think anyone’s buying cd’s for games anymore. Maybe for PS4, but on ps5 ...
You're wrong.
mighty hazel
I’ve barely seen any cd’s for ps5 games
devout forum
Except nobody does anymore because digital libraries became a thing?
mighty hazel
This
rancid juniper
Honestly I don't think there'd be a huge benefit for them to go faster
Still a good thing though, they are using cartridges with updated tech so at least physical games still stay
rancid juniper
When I had the ps4 it kinda sucked to see your DVD installing the game on the hdd instead of playing it, just shows that the disc drives aint fast enough to process all the data
But eh it is what it is
wary fjord
Boosting service is a good business ngl xD but bad for the game itself.
devout forum
It's kinda getting old seeing the old arguments repeated even though they're no longer applicable
mighty hazel
I mean there are a few new DVD’s of games online but like there’s barley any used ones
wary fjord
U good at game u got paid to lift them to the top ... They gonna fall later on and call you again
Best business
rancid juniper
It's kinda getting old seeing the old arguments repeated even though they're no ...
Conflict is a repeated same cycle
mighty hazel
I mean there are a few new DVD’s of games online but like there’s barley any use...
No one goes to video stores anymore or buying that stuff from eBay. People just buy digital
devout forum
You could've said "They're nigh unbeatable in price to experience"
ancient swift
There were ZERO listings for used PS5 games
Tons of both PS4 and PS5 games. Both of which work on the PS5.
Shocking
Absolutely mind-blowing
rancid juniper
If I had a Nintendo switch I'd be buying physical games from eBay all the way
wary fjord
We dont own modern games now
devout forum
Especially a used game
pliant berry
bruh my yt keeps buffering
ancient swift
Who'd have thought that some people would sell games when they finish them
mighty hazel
That used games still exist
The used ones cost the same as new
wary fjord
If they decided to go out of business the game is done too
rancid juniper
We dont own modern games now
Yes
ancient swift
24$ for Jedi survivor?
devout forum
I'm not paying someone the same money for a used game as a brand new one lmao