general-chat

[rancid juniper]

Who knows

[elfin mural]

if you're just driving to work a civic is fancy af

[misty sparrow]

Money does things to people

[hoary zodiac]

Money makes people dumber

[misty sparrow]

it happened to tiger woods

[rancid juniper]

The green paper is too powerful

[hoary zodiac]

Instead of thinking

You pay someone to do it for you

[misty sparrow]

instead of donating to charity ask the employees of your company to donate a part of their salary to a charity

[elfin mural]

i hate people's mentality with spending needlessly on a pc sometimes

"muh aio with screen"

[pliant berry]

well the idea behind that is you pay someone to do something for you so you can keep your mind on other aspects

[hoary zodiac]

I mean yeah

[pliant berry]

You cannot operate a successful business by micromanaging everything yourself

but you are right in that some people get lazy

[hoary zodiac]

It has its benefits

[misty sparrow]

for a call of duty fan all of that money would be gone in five years

[hoary zodiac]

This is why microtransactions make money

[pliant berry]

lol

[hoary zodiac]

Worst part is

They work

[misty sparrow]

which is why mobile industry is the most profitable part of gaming

[pliant berry]

heck look at genshin

some people spending hundreds or even more to get a character

[rancid juniper]

Bro genshin alone making billions

[hoary zodiac]

Who plays genshin

[elfin mural]

i rather pay $0 and play

[rancid juniper]

And all the other goofy mobile games make a decent chunk

[misty sparrow]

oh wow the gif had a swear word in the link?

[hoary zodiac]

ahahah

[rancid juniper]

Most sane gamer

[pliant berry]

yup lol

[elfin mural]

im guilty of paying for robux but

it's never excessive

[hoary zodiac]

Remember when we grinded GTA

[pliant berry]

I still play genshin but it's not a game i'd ever spend money in

[hoary zodiac]

💀

[rancid juniper]

I would never, pay any cash on a free game

[elfin mural]

lmao yeah

[hoary zodiac]

That was ages ago

[elfin mural]

the GTA grinding

that got patched

[pliant berry]

roblox i will say i put some money into

[elfin mural]

the gold glitch

[hoary zodiac]

I remember everyone driving around in armored cars

[rancid juniper]

Did pay $5 once and never again

[hoary zodiac]

And doing heists

[misty sparrow]

Roblox games have sharply declined in quality good lord

[elfin mural]

at that point i also had the annoying flying bike

[pliant berry]

a lot of them now are just too meme driven

[hoary zodiac]

Roblox is like gmod

[elfin mural]

we had a war on some player

[rancid juniper]

It's really hard to find good quality games because it's overshadowed by trash obbies and simulators

[misty sparrow]

except it runs badly no matter the platform

[elfin mural]

bullied until they left

[hoary zodiac]

I remember just driving into the airbase to do the ceo mission

[rancid juniper]

Lua moment

[nocturne flicker]

LotRO is the only game I have put money into in the store in years

[hoary zodiac]

Just hop on a jet and headhunter

ez

[pliant berry]

I probably spent at least 100 in roblox. but there aren't really any other games i bought microtransactions in

[elfin mural]

kinda annoying to do ceo missions tho

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

[elfin mural]

people will try to destroy you

[hoary zodiac]

You need missiles

[misty sparrow]

the devs were so lazy to the point where you can go into the settings and change the graphics settings even on console

why fix the engine when that setting does it all

[hoary zodiac]

And people also have missiles

[rancid juniper]

Funny how GTA online singlehandedly killed so much DLC single player content

😂

[elfin mural]

the ceo missions that needs the oppressor was pain

[hoary zodiac]

Oppressor ruins the game in multiplayer

[elfin mural]

like blowing up boats in bum heck nowhere

[pliant berry]

it did

[hoary zodiac]

There is no reason to use any other vehicle

[misty sparrow]

now why are people excited for GTA6 online again?

[hoary zodiac]

Takes the fun of driving different cars

[atomic current]

invite lobby is good

[rancid juniper]

Real

[hoary zodiac]

Why grind for vehicles with different gimmicks when you can just get on the funny bike

[pliant berry]

having started gta very late, it's just so stupid when you are trying to do something and constantly get blown up with basically no way to dodge

[atomic current]

beach cruiser is nice

[elfin mural]

i like driving

so a car is still fun

[misty sparrow]

the online doesn’t even have a lot of content too

[hoary zodiac]

They should add a battleship

[elfin mural]

but not as practical

[hoary zodiac]

And they should let you shoot the city

Wouldn't make a difference at this point

[elfin mural]

the 4 door jag was op af

stupid fast

[rancid juniper]

Ah the average GTA online experience

[pliant berry]

when will they add nukes

[misty sparrow]

The PC version is just unplayable

[elfin mural]

they already sorta do

[rancid juniper]

I think I only played like 3 hours of GTA online and quit

[unreal chasm]

Ohhkay I accidentally applied a profile with my ram running at like 3700 or 3800 instead of 3609

[atomic current]

I forget what motorcycle it is but it costs 15k and apparently it's one of the fastest in the game

[unreal chasm]

3600

[nocturne flicker]

Last GTA I played was San Andreas

[atomic current]

surprisingly not

[pliant berry]

like what was their thought process when adding things like that?

[rancid juniper]

Welcome to San Andreas I'm cj from groce street

[misty sparrow]

You go in and play GTAO on PC and it’s just modders left and right

[rancid juniper]

Anything to appeal the youngsters to steal their parents credit cards

[atomic current]

grocery street ‼️

[misty sparrow]

god forbid they drop money on your head and cause Rockstar to nuke all the money from your account

[hoary zodiac]

It's also really grindy if you play solo

[pliant berry]

ah yes, brain dead weapons

[elfin mural]

gta v source code leaking showed us all the unreleased offline updates and dlc's they planned to add

but didn't

cuz online was making money

[rancid juniper]

All because of GTAO and shark cards

Great

[elfin mural]

ye

[rancid juniper]

✅

[hoary zodiac]

GTA V was a great game

[elfin mural]

ruined by endless milking

[hoary zodiac]

If only they added more singleplayer content

[misty sparrow]

The same thing will happen to GTA6

[elfin mural]

ya

[misty sparrow]

Why are people excited for it

[elfin mural]

good offline

bad online

online will be great in the first year or two

but after that

nah

[unreal chasm]

Wtf

[misty sparrow]

Online could be good if they focused on the heists and looting and not the grind

[hoary zodiac]

They should add more depth

[atomic current]

unfortunately story mode makes me feel strapped for cash because there's not much for making money after a certain point

[misty sparrow]

unfortunately it’s just grind

[elfin mural]

can you get into bios

[rancid juniper]

Gaming is a huge industry, just like movies that profit, they'll milk it... It's gotten so huge that honestly the disconnect is expanding, y'all gotta know that at this point it's all business, there is barely any passion as the main drive is to make cash

Or else, bankruptcy ig

[hoary zodiac]

That's why I don't play AAA games anymore

[unreal chasm]

F3 code on mobo

[hoary zodiac]

They're just all the same

[unreal chasm]

I think I bricked my pc

[elfin mural]

cmos reset

[unreal chasm]

I did alr

[misty sparrow]

too bad voting with your wallet never works and the people that say this are delusional

[elfin mural]

oof

reseat ram?

[rancid juniper]

Yep

[hoary zodiac]

Space Engineers has more soul put into it than whatever the crappy no man sky ripoff was

I forgot what it's called

[elfin mural]

i gave up on vote with your wallet mentality

[misty sparrow]

Starfield

[hoary zodiac]

Yes

[elfin mural]

the people with money will overwhelm me anyway

[rancid juniper]

I kid you not, the amount of effort to defend a scummy company that probably just steals data from you while playing is astounding

[hoary zodiac]

Space engineers is a fantastic game

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[misty sparrow]

That game won Most Innovative Game on Steam

https://tenor.com/view/fall-damage-guy-jumping-off-cliff-meme-fall-jump-gif-10998107752099134325

[hoary zodiac]

Also runs pretty damn well

[atomic current]

disconnect is the right word to use because I'm not buying 90% of the games they put out :^)

[unreal chasm]

I accidentally applied a profile with the ram running at like 3700 or 3800MHz instead of 3600

[hoary zodiac]

Why do you think lethal company got the steam awards

[rancid juniper]

I'm pretty sure these people were joking

[hoary zodiac]

It was actually something new

[rancid juniper]

It just has to be

💀

[hoary zodiac]

Compared to the rest of the industry

[tacit geode]

hahha most crap game imo

[hoary zodiac]

It is literally a worse no man's sky

[misty sparrow]

I know it was a gag but the other nominees won’t get nominated again

All because they wanted to play a gag

[hoary zodiac]

No man sky deserved that spot

[rancid juniper]

I honestly don't know how these people manage to put in so many hours of boredom

[hoary zodiac]

Not starfield

[rancid juniper]

No I really want to know

[misty sparrow]

It is innovative in finding ways to keep you bored

[unreal chasm]

It's on code 26 I looked it up said it's "Training the memory, running stress tests etc"

[hoary zodiac]

While space engineers

[weak cedar]

No man sky the game that was relaesed with almost nothing added

[elfin mural]

then wait

[unreal chasm]

I am rn

[rancid juniper]

Rip...

[misty sparrow]

It deserves labor of love but not most innovative

[unreal chasm]

But this was my 38th reboot

[hoary zodiac]

Well yes but still

It's a better starfield

[unreal chasm]

Every reboot I get a diff code on the mobo

After trying to fix the last

[mortal grail]

tbf it's a LOT better now than it was

[nocturne flicker]

NMS should absolutely get Labor of Love. No way in heck for most innovative though

[rancid juniper]

And the one mentality that I still can't get over is the

Game broke at launch, fix it nearly a year or two later then call it GOOD GAME OR BEST GAME and act like nothing bad has happened

[hoary zodiac]

If starfield got that spot

[misty sparrow]

why does the game even need an SSD if theres loading screens to:

• Enter your ship
• Leave a planet
• Quickly travel to any planet
• Land on a planet, then leave the ship

[hoary zodiac]

Then no man's sky should've got it

[weak cedar]

it was the realease they said there was much to do in the game but as soon as it came out there was nothing almost

[hoary zodiac]

It's a better game in every way

[mortal grail]

Yes I was there, I remember

[atomic current]

spiderbunk

[mortal grail]

but it definitely improved over the years, they put in the work to make it better

call it a terrible alpha/beta at release, I agree wouldn't be good

but it's at least come good finally

they lived up to their work

[rancid juniper]

Never ever believe them, too much feature creep and even with a large ah team, it is clearly impossible to implement all that and play test then bug fixing

[hoary zodiac]

Space engineers should get labor of love imo

[rancid juniper]

Lol

[hoary zodiac]

It's literally space Minecraft

And doesn't kill your performance

It is stupid optimized

[weak cedar]

labor of love would be a game that keeps getting updates past it date without people yelling it needs to be fixed and updated

[nocturne flicker]

I played it recently through certain means, it isn't my cup of tea but I can see how people can enjoy current NMS

[mortal grail]

I don't like believing in could be's or what may happens

I only judge on what's in front of me

[hoary zodiac]

Space engineers probably runs better than minecraft at this point

[atomic current]

I'm glad games that release horribly improve but if the companies behind them have the capital to invest into a more complete game then they should not be pretending to be indie and smol and just so litol

[rancid juniper]

And oh man

"Preorders"

[misty sparrow]

I wonder why Starfield took 8 years to make when we got such an empty game…was all that time spent on preplanning?

[hoary zodiac]

8 years and it's just a crappy version of no man's sky

[nocturne flicker]

8 years and it is crappy Fallout 4 in space

[misty sparrow]

Cyberpunk felt massive, yet Starfield yet empty despite both taking a long time to create

[elfin mural]

indie devs are both good and bad, but the aaa are just consistently bad

[rancid juniper]

8 years attempting to fix their crusty old engine

Failed

[pliant berry]

its all empty space for modders to work with

[elfin mural]

lmao

[misty sparrow]

8 years and they can’t add a moon buggy

[elfin mural]

the starfield copers

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder how space engineers would look like if they had that level of funding

[rancid juniper]

Space game and no rovers or vehicle to drive with

[nocturne flicker]

Crappy version of an already meh game from 9 years ago

[rancid juniper]

Loading screen sim all the way

[misty sparrow]

this right here made me question why the hell it even needed an SSD lmao

[rancid juniper]

I know there were a few developers that knew
"This wasn't a good idea"

[misty sparrow]

next gen gaming lmao

[hoary zodiac]

I'm gonna sound repetitive

[rancid juniper]

Just because of all the dreaded loading screens

[hoary zodiac]

👏 play space engineers 👏

[elfin mural]

next gen gaming is indie games

beamng is so nice

[rancid juniper]

[elfin mural]

bangers after bangers with updates

[misty sparrow]

• that usually get very little attention

[elfin mural]

yeah

[pliant berry]

no advertising

[rancid juniper]

And then, they get big

And you know what happens next

😳

[misty sparrow]

to be fair you do get stinkers in indie

[elfin mural]

ik

[misty sparrow]

like…the day before

[mortal grail]

Destiny

[rancid juniper]

It's a trash

Cycle

[elfin mural]

but beamng is nice no matter the growth

[pliant berry]

actually though I thought about playing it a few times. i ended up getting satisfactory instead. might try out in future

[rancid juniper]

☠️

[mortal grail]

there's nothing really like it tbf

[elfin mural]

indie stinkers do exist, that i don't lie

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah it actually is a lot like satisfactory

But you can build your own vehicles

[elfin mural]

but beamng is just, the result of true passion

[atomic current]

I went for medieval engineers instead

[misty sparrow]

Quest VR headsets are just 90% indie games and that’s probably a good thing right now (thank god)

[rancid juniper]

Bro the amount of roguelikes and similar looking indie games is insane

[atomic current]

I'll get space engineers eventually

[pliant berry]

is it another one of the early access for life games right?

[elfin mural]

yeah

[atomic current]

stardew clones lol

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[nocturne flicker]

I just want an in depth ED

[elfin mural]

it is

[hoary zodiac]

At least you get features

[rancid juniper]

[hoary zodiac]

And updates

[atomic current]

there's so many

[hoary zodiac]

Instead a $70 game that's dead within 3 years

[rancid juniper]

Indie devs on their way to make their 69th clone of lethal company

[nocturne flicker]

Or maybe an X game without cancer controls

[elfin mural]

beamng slowly matures into what is considered great driving sim

needs some more work tho

but it's getting there

[atomic current]

it's pretty good

[misty sparrow]

I remember this priced indie game based on half-life that literally had its story mostly based on MGS5

[hoary zodiac]

That's the thing about indie tho

The community feedback helps a lot

[elfin mural]

iracing would probably die if beamng gets everything covered lmao

[misty sparrow]

absolute abomination of a game

[pliant berry]

yeah I especially liked the ai additions and races they added

[rancid juniper]

Assetto corsa is held up by mods

[atomic current]

it would be cool to have beam maps stitched together with in-between roads

[hoary zodiac]

mods can keep a game alive for a stupid amount of time

[atomic current]

just drive to the road at the edge of the map and you spawn on the open road

[hoary zodiac]

Modded Minecraft is one example

[rancid juniper]

Cough

Skyrim looking ah

[misty sparrow]

which is probably the only reason why Bethesda games stayed relevant for so long

[weak cedar]

Skyrim

[atomic current]

if they would just stop updating minecraft maybe the mods could mature and flourish

[hoary zodiac]

Imo Minecraft is a shadow of its former self

It's just not the same

[rancid juniper]

Rerrerrererrerelease

[atomic current]

minecraft is still great

[hoary zodiac]

It's just not fun anymore

[elfin mural]

mc since ms days started losing its core

but it's guilty pleasure watching mc vids

[hoary zodiac]

At least not if you want the new features and mod support

[weak cedar]

It was great till Microsoft bought it and forced people to make Microsoft accounts

[elfin mural]

the more classic style that is

[rancid juniper]

Bethesda would've faced closure earlier if no one modded their games

Imma be real

[visual stump]

fallout nv

[hoary zodiac]

They should just let mod developers do their thing

[visual stump]

is

the best thing

eber

ever

[hoary zodiac]

Or like

Optimize the game

[pliant berry]

what happened to forests btw. is it just really rare now?

[misty sparrow]

It was great until they added the damn storefront

[nocturne flicker]

FNV had meh controls and combat

[elfin mural]

fallout nv gave me headache

[atomic current]

the mob vote always ending up as a mob nobody wants lol

[elfin mural]

the controls and everything made my brain just

[hoary zodiac]

I chopped all of them down

[elfin mural]

malfunction

i can't play it without needing to throw up

[atomic current]

replant smh

[rancid juniper]

Should've used all of them

Lazy mojang

[misty sparrow]

why even bother with voting when they can all be added at once? Too much work?

[atomic current]

real

no reason not to

[weak cedar]

Then they added message ID and censored ID to chat messages

[hoary zodiac]

It's also pretty annoying how minecraft gameplay is just "build a farm"

[misty sparrow]

and then the previous mob ideas are just discarded

[rancid juniper]

I guess adding three mobs will break the game or sum

Lol

[hoary zodiac]

It's just the same repetitive gameplay loop

[nocturne flicker]

FNV was just a better, even buggier version of FO3 with an actual story of some note

[misty sparrow]

anything that is actually major is just too much for mojang lmao

[elfin mural]

mc is only fun when you use mods now

[hoary zodiac]

The gameplay needs a overhaul

There's no depth to the game

[rancid juniper]

When you're adding more systems to a game I guess it becomes way to complex to handle

At some point Minecraft may stop updating

😂

[elfin mural]

tbh mc is confusing now for me

[pliant berry]

I really like the create mod for minecraft actually. really cool addition that meshes decently with the minecraft asthetic. I just wish minecraft mods were a little more flexible with versions

[weak cedar]

It's a sandbox game, it doesn't have a story😅

[elfin mural]

deep slate biome

diamonds that are so hard to find

[rancid juniper]

Gman Minecraft mob

Let's go

[misty sparrow]

look at Minecraft updates vs Terraria updates and you can easily tell which one does it better

[elfin mural]

like diamonds are now exceedingly hard to find for no reason

[misty sparrow]

[pliant berry]

terraria is epic

[atomic current]

Damn this beam map is taking up the entire memory pool

[rancid juniper]

👌

[elfin mural]

caves being no fun to explore

[hoary zodiac]

I like having mc servers that gives everyone iron tools

[rancid juniper]

L

[atomic current]

I play Minecraft exclusively in vanilla

[pseudo raven]

lot easier to add crap to a 2d game

[misty sparrow]

Terraria is just Minecraft but with much more content by default

[hoary zodiac]

Just to get the repetitive stuff over with

Strip mining takes the fun out

[weak cedar]

One of the issues is there trying to make the game realalistic but same time fantasy

[misty sparrow]

so hire the mod devs for ideas

[rancid juniper]

Bruh you can't combine two things

[hoary zodiac]

lol realistic

[rancid juniper]

Just like how you can't cater to two audicences

[unreal chasm]

It's still doing it should I just keep waiting?

[atomic current]

There's a small server I play on that has some cool custom world and structure plugins

[hoary zodiac]

They have a hell portal

[pliant berry]

I think of terraria as similar to minecraft but more combat and boss progression centered whereas minecraft is more for building

[weak cedar]

The frog > firefly
parrot > cookies

But same time has enchanting in game

[elfin mural]

turn it off and try again

[random osprey]

part of the problem with mojang adding anything is if they add too much, people get mad theyre straying away from the roots of the game. if they dont add enough, people get mad they arent doing anything

[hoary zodiac]

They should focus on the building aspect imo

More tools for clearing out land

[nocturne flicker]

I prefer modded Starbound to Terraria. I had a bad intro to Terraria that put me off of it entirely

[rancid juniper]

Bro, this...

[atomic current]

Some of the most fun in Minecraft is just building roads to places

[rancid juniper]

This happens in almost EVERY GAME

[misty sparrow]

terraria didn’t have this problem but sounds plausible

[elfin mural]

mojang community is the problem

[random osprey]

the community is the biggest problem with minecraft, not so much mojang themselves

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah I love connecting up my districts

[rancid juniper]

Like do you want change

Or not

Make up your mind

[weak cedar]

Also cross java about bedrock updates which would break java worlds

[hoary zodiac]

Makes it look more alive

[misty sparrow]

The storefront does need attention though

on Bedrock edition

[hoary zodiac]

no

[rancid juniper]

Like I don't care if Minecraft gets big bruh, you can ALWAYS USE AN OLDER VERSION

It's there

[hoary zodiac]

No more microtransactions

💀

[misty sparrow]

I meant better oversight

[atomic current]

there's three player areas on the main continent on the server, the spawn town in the middle, someone southwest of there, and someone northeast of there on a private island

[hoary zodiac]

Runs better and has better mod support

[rancid juniper]

Ugh just like gaming leaks, it shows just how low IQ some gamers can get

[unreal chasm]

Power button won't turn it off Imma have to just cut power to the psu I have no idea wtf is happening with this pc rn

[pliant berry]

heck before I started playing on 1.16 and 1.19 worlds i was still on 1.7.10

[rancid juniper]

Ye

[hoary zodiac]

That's what made Minecraft good in the first place

[atomic current]

so I was building roads to them and to other villages in the area

super fun

[hoary zodiac]

Minecraft updates feel disconnected

Like the sega genesis add-ons

If you know you know

[atomic current]

I started building roadside camp/motels in between towns that are far enough away

[hoary zodiac]

I build housing for my villagers

[atomic current]

nice

[rancid juniper]

If only sega didn't mess up their consoles

[hoary zodiac]

And make farm areas

https://tenor.com/view/gizemli_soviet_union_flag-gif-21312230

[atomic current]

I haven';t gotten to that point, I need to repopulate my village :(

[hoary zodiac]

Minecraft encourages socialism

[atomic current]

they just run off and die

real

[rancid juniper]

Never beat Minecraft yet

[hoary zodiac]

No seriously tho I always end up turning villages into socialist states

💀

[rancid juniper]

Bruh

[misty sparrow]

did you build a giant wall around each side of the village to complete the look

[hoary zodiac]

YES

[pliant berry]

every village i visit turns into a wasteland

[misty sparrow]

better be a stone wall

[hoary zodiac]

Gotta protect the villagers from invaders

[rancid juniper]

Bro took the villagecide route

[hoary zodiac]

Someone I do wood

[nocturne flicker]

I have never gotten past the build a house, mine some stuff, build a basic farm stage of Minecraft

[atomic current]

I prefer building haha fences

[hoary zodiac]

Because cheaper

[rancid juniper]

Haha fences?

💀

[hoary zodiac]

And more stylish

[mortal grail]

relatable

[hoary zodiac]

Stone is expensive

I use it to build castles

[atomic current]

it's where you have a continuous view from inside, and there's a wall to the outside dug out in a trench

[rancid juniper]

Ah

[hoary zodiac]

So it's literally Constantinople

[misty sparrow]

I feel bad for those playing on the Bedrock versions of the game because for most versions they can’t even join custom servers

[nocturne flicker]

Get to that stage and can't think of anything I really want to do so I just quit and uninstall Minecraft for a year or two before coming back to try something again only to repeat

[atomic current]

so when the deer come up to you while you're standing on the inside of the wall, you can look at it and go "haha you can't come in"

[rancid juniper]

I like how I have genshin sitting there for like a year

No updates

[hoary zodiac]

Until the turks show up with a big cannon

[atomic current]

genshin just bypasses launcher updates right

[rancid juniper]

The villager's nose, is the CANNON

[rancid juniper]

No

[atomic current]

all the fancy pants e games do that

[misty sparrow]

I wouldn’t have the balls to download that game on my PC

[rancid juniper]

Fancy pants, a name I heard of long ago

[nocturne flicker]

I have wanted to build a factory in modded Minecraft for about 6 years now and have never gotten past the initial stage

[rancid juniper]

Hoyoverse wants your info

Give it to them

NOW

[atomic current]

I put it on my account recently just because the epic holiday thing said they give free things for it

probably never gonna play it anyway

[rancid juniper]

If you comply, you get 2 free anime characters

[atomic current]

real

[rancid juniper]

I'd say that's a good deal

-not a representative

[hoary zodiac]

It is actually a viable strategy to build commie blocks in minecraft

[atomic current]

unfortunately I don't want them

[rancid juniper]

😡

[atomic current]

:^)

[hoary zodiac]

Or just barracks with beds inside

[rancid juniper]

I'm reporting you

-999 social credit

[atomic current]

yes yes

[hoary zodiac]

It is literally china simulator

[atomic current]

I've been wanting to build villager apartment buildings and stuff

[hoary zodiac]

Socialism is fun (in Minecraft)

[atomic current]

with shops on the bottom floor

[misty sparrow]

they still have clear of the sky right? build a giant China flag in view for the funny

[hoary zodiac]

I always put a flag up

Chinese flag too detailed

A red flag would do

Like one of those USSR state flags

[misty sparrow]

not complying means I still get a barrage of advertisements on YouTube about the game

good lord are they terrible

[rancid juniper]

Real

[atomic current]

oh hey I'm down to 12gb ram usage

[hoary zodiac]

Minecraft is really fun if you roleplay as a mediaeval socialist dictator

[misty sparrow]

Every time one pops up for specifically that game, I’m thinking “for the love of god get it off the damn screen”

[atomic current]

I just roleplay as a civil engineer

[hoary zodiac]

Free housing

Free food

Free battleship

[nocturne flicker]

What was that about the battleship?

[atomic current]

you've got his attention

[hoary zodiac]

Only good for costal villages tho

Needs a crap load of concrete

[atomic current]

I built some docks adjacent to my spawn village

[nocturne flicker]

...For a boat?

[hoary zodiac]

A single battleship is stupid expensive

Cruisers are more cost effective

[hoary zodiac]

They don't work

They're just there to look cool

[nocturne flicker]

There has to be a mod somewhere

[hoary zodiac]

I could mount tnt cannons on them

[atomic current]

I build for a balance of form and function

so not really ships lol

[hoary zodiac]

There's aircraft mods

Ships are hard to do

They should have a vehicle mod where you can build ships

[atomic current]

there is kind of

but I don't think there's an up to date definitive one

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

[atomic current]

archimedes and such

there have been several different ones doing the same stuff

over the years

[hoary zodiac]

Probably easier to make a whole new game

[atomic current]

idk

if several people have made analogous mods, it's probably fairly trivial

[hoary zodiac]

That's why I like space engineers so much

You can build anything from a rover to a battleship

Not anything that goes on water tho

They still don't have water

Starships yes

Ship-ships no

[atomic current]

literally unplayable

[hoary zodiac]

The game is janky tho

[atomic current]

every now and then I get the urge to try building a space ship in minecraft

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

[atomic current]

I don't really follow through with it

just gotta make an empty world that's at night I guess

[nocturne flicker]

There is a mod that lets you build a space ship in space and have it go to different planets and stuff

[atomic current]

yeah

[misty sparrow]

$20 bet it’s better than Starfield

[atomic current]

yep

[nocturne flicker]

Advanced Rocketry maybe?

I don't rember

[atomic current]

I don't rember either

[hoary zodiac]

Galacticraft?

That's the one i remember

Used to play on 1.12 on it

[nocturne flicker]

No, Galacticraft is old and had rocket as items you could build iirc, not manually build them as an actual thing you can run around in

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

[nocturne flicker]

It is like the classic space mod

[hoary zodiac]

I remember stampy's old rocket videos

Got stupid good editing for 2010s Minecraft content

[nocturne flicker]

I know the Yogscast used it in their Moonquest modpack

[atomic current]

stampy is great

love moon quest

[mental yoke]

wow windows has tabbed file explorer finally

took you long enough you morons

[elfin mural]

for me i had it since last year

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-water-slub-spaced-out-dead-gif-27052193

[atomic current]

earth to theo

[serene flame]

can #peripherals-and-displays be used for help with peripherals or nah

[random osprey]

can be used as that, ye

[serene flame]

ty

[tacit geode]

https://tenor.com/view/sasuke-sad-naruto-gif-7406316

[random osprey]

so good 😩

need to save up more theo coin so i can buy one

[hoary zodiac]

Autofocus hates me

💀💀

[hoary zodiac]

Funny how it's been on linux for years

[mental yoke]

linux mint has it down pat

[hoary zodiac]

Mint's been kinda forgotten

Shame

It's a solid OS

It's pretty fun to lock myself to one focal length

better pictures too

[hoary zodiac]

It looks like plastic imo

Probably because of how the interior is coated the same color

[atomic current]

sometimes a metal part is entirely painted

[elfin mural]

tbh i never minded not having tabbed explorer

i got too used that using tabs is weird

[atomic current]

same

what I really want is browser tab grouping where you click on a group and it drops down like a context menu

no browser I want to use has that, and no plugin provides it

[sinful blade]

Make it yourself

[atomic current]

I'd love to

but I wouldn't :)

[hoary zodiac]

Linux luxury

[elfin mural]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidias-made-for-china-rtx-4090d-is-only-5-slower-in-gaming-performance-than-the-original-rtx-4090

damn

[sinful blade]

Neither would I, I’d have to learn how to code:/ and I’m too stupid

[atomic current]

lol

[devout forum]

Too bad none of them will ever be used for games amirite?

they're all immediately going into AI farms, so it's really just a moneygrab from nGreedia

TBF they are a pure AI company now so that makes sense

:3

[wary fjord]

where they bin this

do they forcefuly break the working 4090

or this is a failed 4090 dies xD

[elfin mural]

no

it's deliberately specced down

[elfin mural]

blame the us sanctions tbh

nvidia isn't the one to blame but the ai boom

[surreal kernel]

my cpu is here

the pins look alright

apart from the Chinese sticker on the box

everything seems fine

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

It wasn't the first time

AMD did some crypto stuff too

[elfin mural]

yeah ofc

[hoary zodiac]

yet they didn't pour all their resources into it

[hoary zodiac]

now they're commiting way too much to the whole AI thing

[elfin mural]

they know ai is at least more stable than crypto

[surreal kernel]

vstecs.com

wth is this

[hoary zodiac]

well yes

but they're also compromising their other products as a result

[elfin mural]

the chinese stickers probably means it comes from china

[hoary zodiac]

I thought your pc died

and you spent 3k on csgo...

after buying a new psu

[elfin mural]

just people with money things

[hoary zodiac]

can't relate

surely there's something more worthwhile than csgo

[surreal kernel]

it looks legit

I'm so excited

[elfin mural]

im not saying it's not legit lel

[hoary zodiac]

idk invest in a mobile game company

[elfin mural]

just that amd has a ton of cpus in china

[surreal kernel]

i understand

[hoary zodiac]

or buy majority stock in one

so you can rake in millions with microtransactions

[elfin mural]

have you found a mobo for the 5600?

[hoary zodiac]

surely there's better things you can invest 3k into

[surreal kernel]

i opened it btw

[hoary zodiac]

You have the capital

[surreal kernel]

the box looks a lil

damaged

here on the side

but it was fine

[hoary zodiac]

oh

I see

fair enough

[hoary zodiac]

that's what the box is for

[surreal kernel]

tru

[hoary zodiac]

what the hell

anno 1800 has 5 season passes

what is this greed

[elfin mural]

nubia has a cheap tier gaming phone now apparently

nubia neo 5g

[hoary zodiac]

to be fair

cheaper than paradox dlcs

[elfin mural]

not dimensity powered, it uses unisoc t820 i think

[hoary zodiac]

I don't wanna pay goobisoft man

I just want to play a funny victorian city builder

[elfin mural]

12nm tsmc

oof

that's not very efficient

[devout forum]

Oh no I squarely blame nVidia for just cutting down perfectly working cores to sell exclusively to AI farms by the palletful (because they can charge literally whatever amount of money and the AI farm owners WILL pay it)

[elfin mural]

it's not even cut down

literally software lock

but your point is still valid

[devout forum]

is it really?

Wouldn't that make it still not legal cuz the software lock can be circumvented (which I believe nVidia is aware of)?

Core and TMU number is lower, but same amount of ROPs

[elfin mural]

hm, yeah

[deep parcel]

bathroom tile gpu

[hoary zodiac]

I think windows 11's tiling feature is pretty cool ngl

takes a but of getting used to but

It's pretty nice

why does lightroom save my photos

this is so stupid

[wary fjord]

@rancid juniper

[hoary zodiac]

OH

it has save to cloud enabled by default

adobe trying to steal my data

💀

[wary fjord]

cdn.discordapp.com seems offline to me lol

every attachments are gone

[hoary zodiac]

huh

lol look on twitter

unironically people will post about it

AHAHAHAHHA

oh god i can't even post the image

https://downdetector.com/status/discord/

[elfin mural]

lol

[plain stone]

where do i ask for laptop recommendations?

[elfin mural]

here or #electronics

[plain stone]

thankya

[elfin mural]

i can help you with lappy reccs tho

[plain stone]

awesome, asking for a friend here

[elfin mural]

which country?

[plain stone]

his budget is around $800, Philippines

[elfin mural]

ok

i can try shop around shopee and lazada ph

[plain stone]

I'm waiting for him to respond what his use cases is or what requirements he wants like slim or whatever

[plain stone]

cool, I'm sure you can pick out something good for the price better

[elfin mural]

im used to shopee and lazada cuz it's available in thailand too lol

[plain stone]

but it's basically "i have 800 dollars, give me something good for that price" type of vibe

[elfin mural]

i regularly buy stuff

[plain stone]

thank you :)

[elfin mural]

yeah that's too vague

gotta know the specifics

[plain stone]

well i guess it's for school that can do light gaming and basic photo and video editing

[hoary zodiac]

does anyone know how to lower the brightness of the sky without darkening the entire photo?

[elfin mural]

ok

so just a thin lappy

[hoary zodiac]

It's either this

[plain stone]

lightroom, select sky

[hoary zodiac]

oh great discord is dead

[wary fjord]

so tis down?

[hoary zodiac]

there's an option for that?

[hoary zodiac]

apparently

[wary fjord]

sad

[elfin mural]

about 44k php

[plain stone]

i can do it for you

[hoary zodiac]

I think i found it

ohhh now i could fiddle with the background

I never knew that

thank you

[plain stone]

you can manually do that yourself too, takes a bit of time though but yeah that's it

happy to help

@elfin mural basic ae basic ps and pr

[elfin mural]

yeah im looking rn

but thanks

[plain stone]

uses it for school so something preferably not big or bulky and doesn't matter if gaming design or not

thanks a lot by the way

[elfin mural]

i would probably go for something with ryzen

[hoary zodiac]

is this a school laptop?

because I second foxy in this case

Ryzen's power efficiency makes them pretty good

I use my strix g15 at school

works perfectly

tho I'd look for something with a mux switch

[plain stone]

yeah just recommend anything

[elfin mural]

i wouldn't get a gaming one

cuz weight

[plain stone]

he'll pick it himself

[plain stone]

no problem

if it can run ae and edit it mostly would do light gaming

something equivalent to csgo lol so not a problem

[wary fjord]

oneday an apu will beat my gpu

if that happen its time to upgrade xD

[plain stone]

does a 5600g beat my 1050ti?

[wary fjord]

so far they beat gtx 1060

[plain stone]

WAAHHH

[hoary zodiac]

It would beat it in power efficiency

for sure

[wary fjord]

maybe next target is 2060

then 3060

4060

xD

[elfin mural]

https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/msi-modern-15-b7m-amd-ryzen-7000-series-processor-16gb-ddr4-ram-amd-rx-vega-graphics-512gb-ssd-156-ultrawide-display-wifi-6e-full-size-backlit-keyboard-windows-11-i4110344806-s22718639757.html?

7530u and 16gb ram for just 30k php

[hoary zodiac]

oh wow

this is very good

\

If discord would work...

nope

unfortunate

oh well

basically it was a vast improvement over the original

overexposed in some parts while underexposed in others

the sun was the main issue

[plain stone]

what's its gpu equivalent?

[hoary zodiac]

iirc it's the igpu

[plain stone]

yup

it has vega graphics but idk which

[hoary zodiac]

It's kinda annoying they just call it vega every time

[plain stone]

i know

[hoary zodiac]

it increases in performance every generation

but like

did you really have to call it the same thing

[paper verge]

why r u asking me

[hoary zodiac]

idk

AMD dumb

they're not good with names

[paper verge]

go change their names then

petition 💀

[elfin mural]

vega 6/7

so almost 1030 level if it's vega 6

enough for light gaming

actually yeah vega 7

[plain stone]

not bad

any other recos?

gawh damn the internet is slow

[elfin mural]

i can't find better before it shoots over budget

[plain stone]

how over is over?

[elfin mural]

like a small bit

[plain stone]

no problem

[elfin mural]

ok

[plain stone]

he was thinking maybe he could get integrated graphics

[shut crystal]

Could buying the wrong cpu accidentally bottleneck your pc?

[plain stone]

yup, depends on the cpu and the gpu you're using

[hoary zodiac]

ehh

it also depends on what he does

[unreal trail]

discord wildin

[elfin mural]

https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/asus-zenbookx13-2022-model-ryzen-7-6800u-133-16gb-ram-5121tb-ssd-i1819140654-s7719796748.html

this one is 48k

but the igpu is a good bit better

680m is speedy

[sweet phoenix]

680m can run most games at 60 fps 1080p

[elfin mural]

you get oled too

[sweet phoenix]

It won't keep up with games like call of duty, cyberpunk, Stanfield, etc, but its amazing for an igpu. I wish I'd gone with one instead of my laptop with an mx550 dgpu

[plain stone]

thanks a ton

[sweet phoenix]

Also much better battery life than with a dgpu

[elfin mural]

https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/asus-vivobook-s-14-oled-2023-i5-13500h-iris-xe-gpu-14-28k-120hz-oled-16gb-ram-1tb-ssd-zzm-trading-i4252331653-s23752855582.html

this one also seems good

but 13500h

not as efficient

[sweet phoenix]

And worse igpu

[shut crystal]

What do you mean battery life PCs shouldn’t be able to run out of battery they’re always plugged into the wall

[sweet phoenix]

A laptop can run out of battery, but if you constantly have it plugged in it won't

[elfin mural]

we're talking about laptops

[sweet phoenix]

Though constantly having a laptop plugged in will shorten how long the battery lasts when not plugged in

[shut crystal]

Oh yeah I don’t need a laptop

[wary fjord]

LALALALAZADA

[sweet phoenix]

Um?

Ok?

[elfin mural]

just tomie being random

[sweet phoenix]

No I was responding to lowkey

[wary fjord]

good for business travels tho

[elfin mural]

@plain stone got one more recc

https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/lenovo-thinkpad-neo-14-2022-intel-ryzen-edition-amd-radeon-intel-iris-xe-140-2240x1400-16gb-lpddr5-512gb-ssd-i3211069638-s16092954472.html?

thinkpad neo, the amd options

but the zenbook does have more storage

[plain stone]

awesome

thanks very much

[elfin mural]

imma sleep now

[plain stone]

sleep well

[shut crystal]

If I buy a cpu from intel to use in my build would it still work for vrchat?

[elfin mural]

yes

but the best gaming value, no, best performing for gaming cpu there is, is 7800x3d

gamers shouldn't look no further than this

cheap boards as well

7900x3d and 7950x3d technically takes the throne, but you need to mess around a lil

[plain stone]

coolio

[wary fjord]

its easy to cool too xD

[elfin mural]

7800x3d is ya

[plain stone]

ima just send a screenshot to him cus not even i understand what you just said

[elfin mural]

but the others aren't really easy

[shut crystal]

Hopefully AMD 7 7800xd is good with rtx 4080

[elfin mural]

just only send ss for the laptop talk lol

[wary fjord]

5800x3d already can drive that

so is 7800x3d

[plain stone]

yeah lol he's content

thinking of the zenbook bc of the storage

[elfin mural]

if you're buying new, just go am5 anyway

[plain stone]

but the lack of ports are making me gag

[elfin mural]

7800x3d+a620/b650

yeah, that's how it goes with thin lappys

[shut crystal]

Can overpowered cpus bottleneck your graphics card or just underpowered ones?

[plain stone]

what

[hoary zodiac]

it really depends on the workload

bottleneck isn't a catch-all term

it's a case-by-case basis

[elfin mural]

wait

there's also redmibook 14

[shut crystal]

It’s just a mistake I probably should avoid making

[elfin mural]

https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/xiaomi-redmibook-pro-14-2022-amd-r5r7-radeon-14-qhd-2560-x-1600-120hz-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd-zzm-trading-i3996686180-s21564130077.html?

no, the gpu will become the bottleneck, but tbh

[shut crystal]

I’d much rather overspend than have a put together pc not work properly

[hoary zodiac]

as long as you're not pairing an i7 6700 with a rtx 3080 or something

[elfin mural]

4080 and 7800x3d is balanced

[plain stone]

btw

[hoary zodiac]

you'll be fine

[elfin mural]

overspending is just a waste

[hoary zodiac]

most pcs do not look like this

[shut crystal]

Yeah but building a pc online and putting it together just for something terrible to go wrong is an even bigger waste

[hoary zodiac]

Unlikely

[elfin mural]

why would i say it's good if it isn't

[wary fjord]

https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/msi-reveals-angled-12v-2x6-power-adapters-at-ces-2024/

[hoary zodiac]

Even the bad lists I've seen here rarely bottleneck

"bottleneck"

there will always be bottleneck

but in most cases it's not enough to matter

[elfin mural]

bottleneck is a terrible term but i abuse it

[hoary zodiac]

I hate the term

It varies so much from game to game it's unusable as a term

[elfin mural]

if there's no bottleneck, any pc would be running like million fps

or infinite

at any resolution

the better term is cpu or gpu bound

[plain stone]

I'm also thinking of upgrading, i currently have an A320-M mobo with a R5 2400g, and are thinking of upgrading to a R5 3600 for $75

[elfin mural]

yeah 3600 will fit just fine

[hoary zodiac]

can the vrms handle a 3600 tho

[elfin mural]

update bios

[hoary zodiac]

at stock probs

[elfin mural]

3600 is just a 65w cpu

[hoary zodiac]

oh true

[elfin mural]

stock is fine

[hoary zodiac]

yeah that's a pretty good upgrade path tbh

[plain stone]

1050ti gpu but would upgrade to 1660s or 5700xt

[hoary zodiac]

early am4 mmm

[elfin mural]

5600 is also doable

but i would upgrade gpu too yeah lol

[hoary zodiac]

5700xt is on par with a 2070s

If they're the same price

5700XT

[elfin mural]

5700xt is miles ahead of 1660s

even 2060 tops it tbh

[plain stone]

should i upgrade the mobo? I'll also upgrade my ram to 3200mhz instead of 2666

[elfin mural]

no

[hoary zodiac]

no

[wary fjord]

yes praise my card 5700 gang

[elfin mural]

use the mobo as is

[hoary zodiac]

AM4 is kinda dead anyways so

[elfin mural]

but tho

[hoary zodiac]

save your money for something else

[plain stone]

i see

[elfin mural]

rtx 20 series does have merits

but eh

5700xt is fine

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

🤷

[elfin mural]

no mesh shaders, but very few games use that

[hoary zodiac]

rdna 1's also matured a lot

[elfin mural]

so imma let it slide

[plain stone]

2060/70 or should i switch to amd?

[wary fjord]

i might get 5700x3d tho

[hoary zodiac]

really just depends on what you do tbh

[elfin mural]

2070 if same price

otherwise 5700xt

[plain stone]

i like the replay and i do use it for rendering with davinci resolve

[hoary zodiac]

any non-gaming workloads?

rendering?

[plain stone]

noted

[hoary zodiac]

is it real-time tho

CPU encoding is always better than gpu if you're not recording

[plain stone]

no actually

[elfin mural]

it's davinci resolve, doubt it's real time

[hoary zodiac]

vastly superior quality and smaller file size

takes a bit more time but 3600

[elfin mural]

davinci resolve prefers nvidia

[hoary zodiac]

I'd only use gpu encoders for recording or life streaming tbh

[elfin mural]

ok i go rest for real, getting over my sleep schedule lmao

[hoary zodiac]

ok gn

[plain stone]

cool so I'm thinking
r5 2400g - r5 3600
a320m - a320m
2x8 2666mhz - 2x8 2666mhz
1050ti - rx 5700xt/equivalent
definitely upgrading psu

[hoary zodiac]

same motherboard and ram?

[elfin mural]

ram upgrade would be nice but really

[hoary zodiac]

how much is that total?

[plain stone]

y'all said i don't need to

[elfin mural]

the next best upgrade would be am5 lol

[plain stone]

well i mean i did said i want to get 3200mhz

[hoary zodiac]

yeah I was just confused by the a320m - a320m

[hoary zodiac]

yeah that's the thing really

[plain stone]

definitely too broke am only a student

[wary fjord]

even 500w works on that xD

[hoary zodiac]

you could upgrade the ram... or you could save the money for a future upgrade

[elfin mural]

tbh

[wary fjord]

because my total wall power is 300~370w

[hoary zodiac]

I'd do 550w to play it safe

[elfin mural]

I wouldn't touch ram, keep the change for future

[plain stone]

sorry but i got a whatever the hell contraption of a power supply this is as my psu so i have to upgrade before it bursts into flames

[wary fjord]

yeah u could do that

but really

[plain stone]

i was thinking 550 bronze would be more than enough

[wary fjord]

850w 750w psu is cheap now

like 100 bucks

[hoary zodiac]

it really depends on the psu itself

[elfin mural]

look at cultists psu tier list

you want c tier

[wary fjord]

i bought my 100 bucks core xpg

[plain stone]

i would be happy for bronze rating

[hoary zodiac]

80+ ratings are not indications of safety

[elfin mural]

no white psus are c tier so you can be assured of that

[hoary zodiac]

they only rate efficiency

[wary fjord]

psu is more efficient if u only put half load on it xD

[plain stone]

thanks for the enlightenment

[elfin mural]

the rule would be c tier or no buy

[hoary zodiac]

but yeah

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[plain stone]

thanks

[hoary zodiac]

Tier A-C are generally decent

Given your budget something around the B-C tier should do

[plain stone]

I'll make an excel sheet maybe later, i might as well bc i really wanna upgrade

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

You got a really solid upgrade tbh

[plain stone]

absolutely

[hoary zodiac]

don't have to spend too much on parts while getting a lot of performance

If you get that 5700xt it'd be more than double the 1050ti

and with the added benefits of the 3600

[plain stone]

my initial first pc build i wanted was actually a 3600 rx 580 3200mhz

[hoary zodiac]

you're gonna have a good time

[hoary zodiac]

ah yes, 2020 build

[elfin mural]

if you hop to am5 in the future

[plain stone]

haha yes! covid times

[hoary zodiac]

covid?

[elfin mural]

7500f is cool

[hoary zodiac]

I remember getting a 5700xt JUST before covid prices hit

[elfin mural]

but ram is 2x the price

so oof

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[plain stone]

my dad took me to Octagon though their prices are marked up so high and they barely had any items

[hoary zodiac]

DDR5 prices WILL drop

[elfin mural]

id probably max out am4 lol

before considering am5

[hoary zodiac]

honestly in the future am4 prices might dip more

maybe a cheap b450 and a 5800x3d

[plain stone]

so i got 2400g and 1050ti, it's the most powerful ones they have, same with 2666mhz 😭😭

[hoary zodiac]

🤷

who knows

[elfin mural]

oof

covid times