general-chat

[spark halo]

What game is this

Eve?

[hoary zodiac]

what

no

[spark halo]

O.o

[hoary zodiac]

It's a star trek episode

[spark halo]

Oh

So explain to me why they haven't simply uploaded a virus into the borg?

Like a viral bomb

[hoary zodiac]

because "starfleet morals"

they didn't want to commit genocide

[spark halo]

I see.

https://tenor.com/view/john-jonah-jameson-lol-laughing-hysterically-laughing-out-loud-funny-gif-17710543

[hoary zodiac]

And then they did it in the voyager finale anyways

[spark halo]

Oh wow.

[hoary zodiac]

they nerfed the borg

[spark halo]

I mean...

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-accident-fry-hammer-nail-gif-5714444

[hoary zodiac]

and then they brought the borg back

but we don't talk about the new shows

[wary fjord]

does anyone expert in battery here xD if it says i need 12v 8ah .. any brand will be fine right? xD

[hoary zodiac]

lithium?

[wary fjord]

i have to replace my ups battery.. because its dead and drained.

[hoary zodiac]

I have no idea

[wary fjord]

got x2 of this xD to have same config

[velvet summit]

yeah
are you sure it says amp hours, or does it say 12v 8 amps

because one is a measurement of capacity (Ah) and the other is a measure of current (A)

[velvet summit]

can you send me the specs sheet of the ups

[wary fjord]

the fight is so close @rancid juniper

[wary fjord]

its not pure sine wave its fine for just shutting down properly .. instead of agresive off state

what i got is the 1500 one.. been using it for 4 years now

[wary fjord]

oh no i dont know

wait yeah it says ah

[velvet summit]

hmm

[chrome mirage]

Canada post said they left a notice card in my mail box so I can pickup my order but there was nothing in my mailbox

[wary fjord]

i only use sword in whole game on this

xD

sword is op

give enemy axiety

when they reload

[unreal trail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/290572012437372931/1194320398364442644/Screenshot_2024-01-08-11-03-51-83_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=65afec8c&is=659d778c&hm=80fc59f997b0529bc7cb29c0ec799ac26a33dd056b25462511fbf6c46f002c4a&=&format=webp&width=636&height=1413

[velvet summit]

ah they dont say discharge because its so high, the amperage rating on the battery is the charging amp

yeah any 12v 8Ah battery should work as long as it's SLA (Sealed Lead Acid)

or maybe you can take out the battery from the ups to check to make sure the specs match

but usually they're pretty standard

[mortal grail]

I'll make you 8Ah in a minute

2000v

[velvet summit]

oh yeah also make sure they use F2 terminals

most ups's use F2 terminals

[mortal grail]

I'll F2 u in a minute

into a keyboard

[wary fjord]

whats that

all i know it uses those flat thingy

[velvet summit]

the connector

[wary fjord]

and u insert it

red and black

[velvet summit]

hmm

f1 connectors are thinner

and f2 connectors are wider

[mortal grail]

I'll F1 u in a minute

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/f1-gif-8687200129990498193

[mortal grail]

press u and demand u to help me

[ocean raven]

Hi anyone know what type of shipping carrier they use to ship on newegg Canada?

[surreal kernel]

I'm back and same results

[paper verge]

lets be honest theres no way thats gonna happen if anything it should be safer

[surreal kernel]

@rancid juniper

same thing

[rancid juniper]

even with radeon chill?

lemme

see a screenshot

[surreal kernel]

mhm

okej leme get one rqni re lqunched

oh btw

what should the minimum fps b at

[rancid juniper]

60

maximum 60

so both

[surreal kernel]

should I try like

120

the screen tearing is too much

as max fps

or like

65 and

120

atleast

[rancid juniper]

run radeon enhanced sync

[surreal kernel]

don't have it

ok nvm.found it

[rancid juniper]

make sure both that and radeon chill is on

[surreal kernel]

ok launching

[rancid juniper]

ok

[surreal kernel]

can u send the sc once again

on the ingame settings

[rancid juniper]

gimme a sec

[surreal kernel]

I tried windowed full screen but it felt bad

and it didn't seem better

[rancid juniper]

nice

[surreal kernel]

here you go

both of them r on

[surreal kernel]

I'm on perf

wait

should b the same

[rancid juniper]

you dont have to go dx11

[surreal kernel]

anyways

[rancid juniper]

just try perf first

also put max to 60

[surreal kernel]

okej

[rancid juniper]

the enhanced sync should elminate tearing anyways

[surreal kernel]

is there a delay counter

anywhere ?

in the amd.software

it feels off

[rancid juniper]

there is

you gotta toggle the overlay

[surreal kernel]

it's worse

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-jolly-honored-one-christmas-jjk-gif-9874607197926101073

[rancid juniper]

send pic

[surreal kernel]

leme turn the graph on

how do i

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-jolly-honored-one-christmas-jjk-gif-9874607197926101073

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-gif-18250654545090010651

[rancid juniper]

just sent a screenshot lol

[rancid juniper]

these jjk memes are getting outta hand

[surreal kernel]

ok but it's running at 60 but when I move it drops

[rancid juniper]

thats just the first match

whats your cpu usage?

[mortal grail]

let it build textures

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/yuji-itadori-jujutsu-kaisen-fortnite-dance-griddy-funny-gif-13062414844888783357

[rancid juniper]

this

hows the latency? you see any tearing?

[rancid juniper]

😡

[mortal grail]

looks stable

[rancid juniper]

16.67ms

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-up-let-him-cook-cook-toy-story-woody-gif-27345024

[rancid juniper]

pure 60fps

[surreal kernel]

too much delay

[mortal grail]

is exactly 60 yeah

[surreal kernel]

I can't build properly

[rancid juniper]

you got the vsync off ingame right?

[mortal grail]

it's just for a couple games

[surreal kernel]

mhm

and there is screen tearing

leme crank the fps up

to 120

[mortal grail]

jesus it's at 50% at 60fps

[rancid juniper]

enable this on your graph and send another screenshot

[surreal kernel]

better

[mortal grail]

120 fps it will probably die

lmao

[rancid juniper]

i7 6700

https://tenor.com/view/peachvitty-gif-24343442

[surreal kernel]

okj wait

[surreal kernel]

80 LMAO

[mortal grail]

did you guys see one of the phones flow out of the plane

and it survived a 5km drop

iphone

[rancid juniper]

cpu or fps?

[rancid juniper]

haven't seen that

[rancid juniper]

what model iphone was it?

[surreal kernel]

dropped now that I wasn't moving

cpu

[mortal grail]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/this-iphone-passed-the-ultimate-drop-test-after-falling-from-a-plane-here-s-how-it-survived/ar-AA1mGRav

[rancid juniper]

cpu utl is good

[mortal grail]

stable

[rancid juniper]

99th is also very good

[cedar compass]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-get-an-iphone-they-are-so-good-iphone-iphones-iphone-break-jerryrigeverything-gif-7633997654041015866

[surreal kernel]

Dipping 80s

[mortal grail]

hey man idk, survived a 5km drop but can't stand hands

iphone™️

[rancid juniper]

oddphone*

[surreal kernel]

ok my gpu fans r going crazy now

this is 4k no wonder

[mortal grail]

lmfao

[mortal grail]

if it runs at ANY resolution stable, then it's literally impossible to be the gpu

[surreal kernel]

I looked at a poi for once second and it dipped into 80s

[mortal grail]

yeah gpus do that

they meet a higher demand

[surreal kernel]

should I try fullscreen ?

[mortal grail]

no

it's stable rn

[surreal kernel]

idk why but I feel like there's too much input delay

can't do nothing

[rancid juniper]

._.

[surreal kernel]

I swear

[mortal grail]

just keep going for now

[surreal kernel]

oh btw

[mortal grail]

we're trying to help you diagnose not win

[surreal kernel]

my textures were on medium

[mortal grail]

💀

[surreal kernel]

and view distance on far

[rancid juniper]

on perf mode?

[surreal kernel]

some guy sniped me

ffs

[rancid juniper]

those settings supposed to be maxed out

[surreal kernel]

yes

[cedar compass]

Airdrop

[young matrix]

Cap

[surreal kernel]

?

[rancid juniper]

😂

[young matrix]

Apple paying the media again smh

[mortal grail]

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/00D_hw9w9Ms?si=DASUmOrAJjJ2xHrx

[rancid juniper]

i mean the perf mode graphics settings should stay on epic or sum

[mental yoke]

Beautiful pic of the snow last night

[surreal kernel]

they don't look good tho

[mortal grail]

wait for burn-in tests before you simp that lol

[rancid juniper]

thats the point of perf mode

[mental yoke]

Do y’all like the picture??

[dusk knot]

[surreal kernel]

like it don't look like perf mode

it's looks too good

[rancid juniper]

crank all the fps with a sacrifice of visuals

[surreal kernel]

for perf mode

[mental yoke]

Hi Felix @mortal grail

[mortal grail]

hey the first gen QD-OLED's holding up a lot better now that rtings changed their methodology

[mental yoke]

How are you friend?

It’s been ages since I’ve seen you on here

[mortal grail]

Hi I don't remember a cylindr

[mental yoke]

Well

[rancid juniper]

💀

[mortal grail]

[surreal kernel]

gpu is a whole airplane now

[mental yoke]

You will eventually

I’m trying to be nice man

[surreal kernel]

75 c

[rancid juniper]

eh

could be worse

thats fine temp

[mental yoke]

The highest my gpu can get is about 67°

[mortal grail]

I know, just I meet a lot of people through here

[rancid juniper]

the temps you should actually be looking at is hotspot

[mortal grail]

keeping expectations real

[surreal kernel]

hot spot 81

💀

[craggy shoal]

Not bad actually

[mortal grail]

wth

you have like the best amd gpu for cooler delta period

[craggy shoal]

Sometimes my hotspot is at like 90

[mortal grail]

I've never seen radeon hotspot under 10 delta

[mental yoke]

I mean, the hottest my gpu usually gets is 89° or 92°

[mortal grail]

not even on my eagle 6600

[mental yoke]

And I have like 10 fans in my build

[rancid juniper]

damn thats dope

[surreal kernel]

mine is a sapphire pulse

idk

[rancid juniper]

75c core 81c hotspot

✅

[mortal grail]

goated brand

[mental yoke]

Hi comp

[rancid juniper]

with a little bit of undervolting it will get even better

[surreal kernel]

should I go fullscreen 1080p now?

[rancid juniper]

hello

[surreal kernel]

maybe try it

[mental yoke]

How are you?

[surreal kernel]

and if not I'll swotch back

[rancid juniper]

fine

[rancid juniper]

up to you

[mortal grail]

try 1080p 120 fps

[mental yoke]

My monitor can only go up to 240fps

[surreal kernel]

ok leme go full screen

[mortal grail]

if it's stable then, try a little more

[mental yoke]

boom

[surreal kernel]

boom indeed

[mental yoke]

Any new changes?

[craggy shoal]

"Only" 💀

[rancid juniper]

10fps sacrifice, meh

worth it

[mental yoke]

💀

[mortal grail]

10W to 9W

[surreal kernel]

holy crap game is playable after a month

😭😭😭

[mental yoke]

Let’s goooo

Gg

[rancid juniper]

congratulations

[surreal kernel]

Wait my power limit is at 15%

[mortal grail]

doesn't matter

[mental yoke]

Setup as of now

[rancid juniper]

POWER SAVINGS YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[mortal grail]

you're frame capped

[mental yoke]

I’m not sure how to explain it

[surreal kernel]

oh

[rancid juniper]

one of the setups of all time

heh

[mental yoke]

I’m sorry it’s bad

[rancid juniper]

eh my setup is just one monitor

[surreal kernel]

I'm.in creative tho

[rancid juniper]

and a pc next to it

[surreal kernel]

considering it used to b bad on creative too

[mental yoke]

My pc is a prebuilt tho

[surreal kernel]

I'm not complaining

[mental yoke]

That’s the thing..

[mortal grail]

honestly this is far from the bad I've seen

[rancid juniper]

depends on the prebuilt

[mortal grail]

[mental yoke]

are you sure it’s ok?

[rancid juniper]

if its oem then

[mortal grail]

it's fine

a PC is a PC

[mental yoke]

It’s an HP prebuilt ..

[mortal grail]

if you like it then it's fine

[rancid juniper]

i used to have a dell prebuilt

[mental yoke]

I couldn’t afford a new one bc money was tight

[surreal kernel]

wait I'll record somethinf

I'll record a vid on normal speed

[mental yoke]

I still have no money at all

[mortal grail]

recording might tank it

[rancid juniper]

normal speed? what

[mental yoke]

So I had to spend $250 on a prebuilt

[surreal kernel]

but it in slow motion and see how long.it takes

[rancid juniper]

lol

[surreal kernel]

on my phone

[rancid juniper]

oh

[surreal kernel]

but it on slow-motion hit the space bar and see how long it takes to register

[mental yoke]

$250 ain’t gonna get you far in the new pc components market

[mortal grail]

you know monitor, keyboard, mouse, ram, cpu, all of it play a role in the latency you feel, not just the gpu and fps

[pliant berry]

honestly you can get a machine capable of running some esports titles and maybe some moderately demanding games for around that much but that's highly dependent on region and takes a lot of patience

[mortal grail]

latency should not be a part of this discussion until you know things are working fine

[surreal kernel]

idk my peripherals are decent theyr not the besy

[mental yoke]

True , it def depends tho

[surreal kernel]

I have a rog scope strix deluxe

and a rog gladius origin 2

[mental yoke]

I have this keyboard

[pliant berry]

cute keeb

[mental yoke]

Yes

[cedar compass]

idk why I bought 5x 96gb ram

[mortal grail]

monitor?

[mental yoke]

Why would you do that

[surreal kernel]

some samsung 4k 60 hz monitor

long name

[chrome mirage]

I went to go pick up my phone and canada post says they don't have it yet

[cedar compass]

Z790 hero giving 5600mhz stable with 192gb kit lol

[mortal grail]

[mortal grail]

you're worried about 60fps when the monitor can't even do over 60?

[surreal kernel]

screen tearing

[mortal grail]

oh I have an older version of this one

these are definitely like, work screens not game screens lol

[surreal kernel]

yeah

[candid kelp]

get a 144hz monitor bruh

[surreal kernel]

no moni

[mortal grail]

yeah if you want better latency get a better screen

what you perceive for responsiveness will be much better with higher fps

[surreal kernel]

idk what to do now see

upgrade or buy monitor

lmao

[wary fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/it-just-makes-me-chuckle-michael-kupris-become-the-knight-it-makes-me-laugh-it-causes-me-to-smile-gif-6342787044769219102

[surreal kernel]

because i already had an upgrade planned

[mortal grail]

keep pushing the fps limit up until it starts stuttering

[surreal kernel]

good idea leme go in a pub match

[mortal grail]

once you see it happening, note what the rest of the system is doing

if it's playable at 1080p 120 then a utility limit or windows registry issue would be the likely suspects

[surreal kernel]

stutterin at pre game lobby

[mortal grail]

like if ur still using the same windows install after a few years, it's possible corruption in the core of windows may have played a role in causing severe stuttering

I had this issue just last week with my Zen 4 build

[mortal grail]

what did you set the limit to

[surreal kernel]

120 still

[mortal grail]

what's the cpu utility say

[surreal kernel]

i reinstallted windows this nov

[surreal kernel]

60 70

[mortal grail]

temps?

[surreal kernel]

cpu temp?

[mortal grail]

mhm

[surreal kernel]

leme run hwinfo

[mortal grail]

ooo

run hwinfo then tab straight back in

see if the stuttering is worse

[surreal kernel]

ok I'm loading in

[mortal grail]

are you running the sensors on hwinfo?

[surreal kernel]

brobwhat

yes

[mortal grail]

is it worse?

[surreal kernel]

my Radeon settings are off

[mortal grail]

?

[surreal kernel]

Radeon chill turned off

by itself

yes stuttering Is a lil worse

[mortal grail]

hold up

ok

sweet

next test

go back to hwinfo

[surreal kernel]

mhm

[mortal grail]

click the cog

see this?

[surreal kernel]

yes

yes

[mortal grail]

change 2000ms to 300ms

and press set

then ok

then go back to the game

[surreal kernel]

ok

[mortal grail]

tell me if it's worse

[surreal kernel]

wait I died

I figure it will b cpu idle at lobby is 60%

[mortal grail]

even still

like for like

lmk if worse

[surreal kernel]

100 util

85

it is worse

[mortal grail]

ok

tab back out one more time

[surreal kernel]

yes

[mortal grail]

set it to 700ms instead of 300ms

or 3000 even

[surreal kernel]

did 700

[mortal grail]

see if it's better the higher the number

[surreal kernel]

Better

[mortal grail]

yep

you have a cpu bottleneck buddy

1000%

[surreal kernel]

yeah

[mortal grail]

hwinfo64 takes a fair bit of cpu to run

[rancid juniper]

no point in returning the gpu

[mortal grail]

and changing that setting changes the update frequency

so it makes it more cpu heavy

or less

[rancid juniper]

you gonna have to wait till you upgrade to a new platform

[mortal grail]

that confirms the cpu is definitely related to your issue

10000%

[surreal kernel]

leme stop hwinfo

[mortal grail]

it's even more so that running at 4K 60 you weren't really suffering

[surreal kernel]

cpu is like 3 c over thanit should b

[surreal kernel]

Radeon chill turned off by itself btw

[rancid juniper]

you can always toggle it back on

[mortal grail]

yeah it's either throttling temperature wise or utility wise

it's one of those two perfcaps

the new cpu? then a good 1080p monitor, is what you need

[surreal kernel]

ima repaste it

[mortal grail]

60hz is coping

[surreal kernel]

should I?

[mortal grail]

yes

toggle it then find a reasonable limiit

like if 120fps works do that

[surreal kernel]

I did minimum 60 and max 120

[rancid juniper]

yes

you can also oc your monitor

[surreal kernel]

u think

[rancid juniper]

its possible

bruh

[surreal kernel]

I think I resr that I can't oc this

one

[rancid juniper]

you can try changing your refresh rate from 60hz to something like 75hz

[surreal kernel]

I'm trying 144fps now

[rancid juniper]

however do know that if your monitor cant go high thats just a hardware limitation

to prevent it from breaking

yolo

[surreal kernel]

I think it made a slight difference

[chrome mirage]

The guy in this image threw an eggplant and hit my friend

[surreal kernel]

if my screen stays black?

[rancid juniper]

wtf, did you throw a melon back at him?

[chrome mirage]

No I laughed because it was funny

[rancid juniper]

lol

[rancid juniper]

it will revert

[surreal kernel]

is there a huge jump from 60 to 75?

[mortal grail]

a little

[surreal kernel]

or just a lil noticeable

[mortal grail]

little

[rancid juniper]

just a lil

its smoother

atleast its not 60

[mortal grail]

60 to 144 is huge

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[chrome mirage]

He deserved it for leaving me at a concert to go talk to girls

[rancid juniper]

but dont try that when you oc

just go little by little

[surreal kernel]

amd says my performance is marginal

💀

[rancid juniper]

[mortal grail]

tmw even ur gpu agrees you got work to do

[rancid juniper]

upgrade that dam cpu is a good start

[surreal kernel]

I think 120is alr

[rancid juniper]

lmao

[rancid juniper]

120hz or fps?

[surreal kernel]

fps

[rancid juniper]

ok

[surreal kernel]

144 is suttering

[rancid juniper]

then stick with it

[mortal grail]

stick to 120 then

and when you upgrade take it off

[craggy shoal]

I think even a 12100F is an upgrade from an i7 6700

[rancid juniper]

it def is

[surreal kernel]

enhanced sync is off too

[surreal kernel]

I was gona buy a 12400 but I have no money

and if b wana buy that I'll need to buy a mobo

[mortal grail]

fwiw btw you should be getting something like, 300-ish fps on the 12400F in the same situation

[surreal kernel]

and if I wana buy those I need to buy a psu

[mortal grail]

that's how big of a jump this will be

[rancid juniper]

the place bro lives it got a cursed market

[mortal grail]

neverland

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/K-Vx3W1RdAg?si=s4dN6uti5c6pbGRV

the most popular scam gpu

[surreal kernel]

is enhanced sync needed

I'm closing fn and trying the thing ubsaid

[rancid juniper]

you can try but if its not satisfactory just disable it

[surreal kernel]

wheres the display settings once again?

[rancid juniper]

.

[surreal kernel]

costum res

found it

[rancid juniper]

.

[surreal kernel]

ima try 75

it doesn't change wtf

nvmdoesnr work

💀

[mortal grail]

it probably doesn't

[surreal kernel]

amd says it's not compatible

[rancid juniper]

hw limit try 70hz

[mortal grail]

1080p 60hz screens can often do 75hz but 4k 60hz is not likely

[surreal kernel]

should I try 1920 1080 75

[mortal grail]

sure

[surreal kernel]

or

[rancid juniper]

thats possible

[surreal kernel]

nop

[rancid juniper]

send screenshot

[surreal kernel]

here

[mortal grail]

this is about the same experience I had with the older version of your screen

💀

[surreal kernel]

💀

[craggy shoal]

I would say any cheap mobo would work. And the 12100F isn't that expensive

[surreal kernel]

200 euros

here

sorry 180

or sumn

i5 is 220

[craggy shoal]

Ah forgot about that

Yeah might as well just go with the i5 then

But even then yeah that’s expensive

[mortal grail]

12400 definitely worth way more for that 40

[surreal kernel]

im arun ow now

[rancid juniper]

bro also got the customs issue

so anything like ebay wouldn't work which is a shame

[surreal kernel]

see

game runs fine

at 4k medium

[rancid juniper]

that game is made for low end systems anyway

so its easier on the cpu

just like valorant

[surreal kernel]

am I tripping or

my desktop is nlurry

blurry

[surreal kernel]

yeah

uhh

[surreal kernel]

total sets me back at 600

nvm.its 700

Lmao

[rancid juniper]

i see

[surreal kernel]

bro idk where I'm gona get this money from

honestly

this is crazy

and idk what to buy first

cpu mobo ram or psu

700 for all of these is mad

I get 500 by the end of next summer it's guaranteed

probably sometime next summer 15th gen will come out won't it?

it uses a whole different socket too

damn man I'm never getting me hands on the newest hardware

[rancid juniper]

15th gen should be out there yes

[surreal kernel]

idk what to do

my gpu will last for a few years

?

or

[rancid juniper]

it will

[surreal kernel]

waezone wasn't running that good too btw

when I tried it

and my cpu sits like 3c over the temp.it says on the website

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[mortal grail]

Call of duty is very cpu bias

[hoary zodiac]

You can always just get something a bit older

Even a used zen 3 is still miles better

Just saying zen 3 isn't 10 years old

[surreal kernel]

should I get

a i9 7900

[mortal grail]

No

Copium hardware

[surreal kernel]

why

[mortal grail]

X299 is just rubbish

Lol

I'd go like

[surreal kernel]

like my i7 is better

[mortal grail]

8700k at a minimum

[surreal kernel]

mobo doesn't support I think

[mortal grail]

Like your i7 will be mostly the same

[surreal kernel]

it costs alot to upgrade

idk what to sell

[hoary zodiac]

why

Would you go from skylake

To skylake

To a dead end platform too

[mortal grail]

I understand that but fundamentally you have a performance issue

If it's too much to ask then get an xbox series s

[hoary zodiac]

It literally costs less to get used zen 3

Or zen 2

That probably performs better

[mortal grail]

Or series S

[hoary zodiac]

I don't get it

Why x299

Why the fixation

[mortal grail]

7900x is really pointless here

Even the new, 7900x

Is pointless here

[hoary zodiac]

I physically can't comprehend

[surreal kernel]

should I wait for 15 gen

[hoary zodiac]

It doesn't matter

[mortal grail]

Upgrade when you are ready

[hoary zodiac]

Any upgrade is an upgrade

[surreal kernel]

it probbal5 cost like 800 here

I'm afraid these will sell out

[mortal grail]

We aren't saying to fork over for 15th gen

[surreal kernel]

even tho in my country I doubt anyone buys them

[mortal grail]

I'm suggesting 8th gen lmfao

[hoary zodiac]

I've been saying used zen 3 for 10 minutes straight

💀

[mortal grail]

Used zen 2 even

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

[mortal grail]

3600 would handle it

[surreal kernel]

😭

[hoary zodiac]

Even that is miles ahead

Of a 6700

[surreal kernel]

but I like wana save up and buy a pc and have it for a long time and not b worried ab upgrades

[mortal grail]

3600 and most tire fire boards are probably well up to the task with the stock cooler

[hoary zodiac]

Ok

[mortal grail]

Sounds like you'll need a lot more

[surreal kernel]

also

[hoary zodiac]

You're gonna spend $800 on a pc

[mortal grail]

Like, a LOT more

[hoary zodiac]

What then?

[surreal kernel]

there isn't a used market here

[hoary zodiac]

In five years you're gonna want an upgrade

[mortal grail]

If you don't want to worry about upgrades for a while at your budget, go console

[hoary zodiac]

Futureproofing doesn't work

[mortal grail]

I'm saying this unironically

Series S will be supported for many years

[surreal kernel]

I get what ur saying but there's no way I can get my hands in used hardware

[hoary zodiac]

(and outperforms an i7 6700)

[mortal grail]

Series S isn't used

[surreal kernel]

and im not a fan of console anyways

[hoary zodiac]

Or just older hardware

[mortal grail]

It's a console

[surreal kernel]

older too

[hoary zodiac]

You don't need the newest generation

[surreal kernel]

they all have like prebuilds

with i5 4600

all.i seee

see

[mortal grail]

It's the most realistic option if you're struggling for even entry-tier hardware considerations

[surreal kernel]

true

[mortal grail]

Beggars can't be choosers

[hoary zodiac]

I mean with that market consoles are unironically viable

[mortal grail]

Yes

Like in Asia where laptops are great

Cos desktops are disgustingly priced

Lol

[hoary zodiac]

X99 will unironically beat skylake

Skylake non hedt

[mortal grail]

Series S is a mighty fine console, if anything I've had less problems with my first gen S than I have with anything else I own

[hoary zodiac]

That is not an endorsement

Do not get x99

[mortal grail]

I am endorsing series S

[swift sable]

excuse me

[mental yoke]

Awl hell nah

[mortal grail]

You get a zen 2 cpu which I believe is 8 core in a series S, so 3700x, and a gpu equivalent to like a 1060 6gb iirc? But games are hyper optimised cos it's console

[hoary zodiac]

lol

[hoary zodiac]

Also destroys x299

In gaming

[mortal grail]

It will destroy the rx 6600 in some cases

[swift sable]

its slower than x79 though

[mortal grail]

Because pc games aren't hyper focused on one specific hardware combo

[swift sable]

[surreal kernel]

ryzen 5 5600 for 130 euros

on fb market place

hm

[hoary zodiac]

ehhhhhhhhhh

[mortal grail]

That's not bad

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[mortal grail]

Hey

[hoary zodiac]

For your market

[mortal grail]

Not bad

[hoary zodiac]

Actually tbh that's pretty decent

[mortal grail]

Yep

Considering 12400 is 220

[hoary zodiac]

Oh wtf

[mortal grail]

That's a huge difference for practically the same

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah definitely good then

Besides

No need for ram upgrade

[surreal kernel]

ima save this listing wait

it's new too

[hoary zodiac]

Even if you have 2133

Still a bit of performance leap

[mortal grail]

16gb is enough for entry level stuff

[surreal kernel]

I was going full on ddr5 with my intel cpu that'd why the total is at 700

[mortal grail]

It's not ideal

[surreal kernel]

that's

[mortal grail]

Noooo

Why

[hoary zodiac]

HOW

[mortal grail]

Don't need d5

[hoary zodiac]

700

[surreal kernel]

look

[mortal grail]

D5 is a waste on low end

You spend almost as much on the ram as the cpu and gpu

[hoary zodiac]

That's not even good ddr5

[mortal grail]

Crucial too

[hoary zodiac]

AHH

[mortal grail]

PLS don't

[surreal kernel]

and 200 something for the cpu

[hoary zodiac]

MOTHERBOARD PRICE

[surreal kernel]

crucial ain't good?

[mortal grail]

Not for ddr5

[surreal kernel]

240 euros 💀

[mortal grail]

Yeah no def not

[hoary zodiac]

why is it a gaming board

[mortal grail]

I thought we had a different one picked out

[hoary zodiac]

They don't add anything

You're paying for plastic

[mortal grail]

I swear I wouldn't have picked this

[hoary zodiac]

What about zen 3

[mortal grail]

I'm doubting myself but I swear I'd have noticed that

[hoary zodiac]

Surely a b450 isn't that expensive

[surreal kernel]

wait give me a mobonfor the ryzen 5

mobo

[hoary zodiac]

Look for "b450"

[surreal kernel]

we switched it up

😭

[hoary zodiac]

Why

[mortal grail]

Who's we

[hoary zodiac]

Was it because it's cheaper?

[mortal grail]

I wanna meet we and slap

[hoary zodiac]

Because there is no other reason

[swift sable]

i have a x670e

[surreal kernel]

maybe

oh yeah it was me

[mortal grail]

Cringe (me too)

[surreal kernel]

because it was cheaper too and I wanted ddr5

and I asked here n someone told me it's ok if u want to go ddr5

leme search the mobo on fb

[hoary zodiac]

Who was it

[mortal grail]

It's ok if you can afford it

And you aren't spending more than the cpu

For it

This is just, no way

Imbalance

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it's ok if it wasn't that bad value

Holy that motherboard price

[surreal kernel]

💀💀

[hoary zodiac]

That's a high end board

Look for b450

[surreal kernel]

200 euros i can't trust these guys

[mortal grail]

Tomahawk overkill

[surreal kernel]

what if it's damaged

[hoary zodiac]

Bee four fifty

[ancient swift]

Get a used LCD Steam Deck

[mortal grail]

Another decent suggestion

[hoary zodiac]

Look for b450 a pro max

Those have flashback

[surreal kernel]

bro says it's new too

[surreal kernel]

hm

eait

[hoary zodiac]

Different board

[surreal kernel]

😭

[hoary zodiac]

That tomahawk is overpriced

[ancient swift]

150-300$ depending on how the bid goes.

[surreal kernel]

hol on

[hoary zodiac]

I mean you can literally plug in the deck and use it as a pc

[surreal kernel]

bro selling mobo cpu and ram

for 400

[modern imp]

series s > lcd steamdeck for a primary gaming device

[surreal kernel]

3700mhz

[hoary zodiac]

And what might that be?

[surreal kernel]

is it?

[hoary zodiac]

200 euros for a b550 on a dead platform

It's not even an x board

[ancient swift]

I have both and there are games that work better on the Steam Deck because of Community Layouts. but I'd say they are both really well priced for entry gaming.

[hoary zodiac]

How much is that in euros

Or usd

[surreal kernel]

380

[ancient swift]

Series S is for sure better for new AAA titles though.

[surreal kernel]

same price

[hoary zodiac]

hmmm

[surreal kernel]

euro is almost 1 on 1

[mortal grail]

That's not the worst

[hoary zodiac]

Save that

[mortal grail]

It needs a cooler tho

[surreal kernel]

ram is from aorus too

I think the cpu has the stock cooler

[hoary zodiac]

Ram is ram

🤷‍♂️

[surreal kernel]

he advertised it in a box

[mortal grail]

That's not the worst

[hoary zodiac]

Can you find a b450?

[mortal grail]

Somewhat decent considering

[hoary zodiac]

Surely there's someone selling a b450

[surreal kernel]

leme see

my search was

b450

there aren't any

listing

s

[hoary zodiac]

x370

[mortal grail]

Try or x470

[hoary zodiac]

b350 lololol

Tho vrms 💀

B350 vrms can be trash

[surreal kernel]

this will probably get sold out

before I even have the money

to buy it

it seems decent

[hoary zodiac]

yeah well

[surreal kernel]

but idk if it's the best

[hoary zodiac]

Keep looking

[surreal kernel]

idk if the ryzen 5 is worth it

[hoary zodiac]

x370,x470

[surreal kernel]

didn't amd just release new cpus

[mortal grail]

Serious suggestion

Find a dell pc

That got chucked

[surreal kernel]

😭

[mortal grail]

Look for 9400f

Or 10400f

[hoary zodiac]

Amd will always release new cpus

[mortal grail]

Stick your gpu and psu in that dell pc

[hoary zodiac]

I've been gaming on a 5900hx and I don't care about getting upgrades

[mortal grail]

(and ram)

[hoary zodiac]

I mean I can't upgrade but still

Don't use the pcmr "I have to upgrade the pc every few months" mentality

[surreal kernel]

what's the intel equivalent to the ryzen 5 5600x

[hoary zodiac]

12600k?

[mortal grail]

Noooo

Noooo

12400

[hoary zodiac]

12400?

Oh

[mortal grail]

12400 edges it in single thread a tiny bit

[hoary zodiac]

Oh yeah is that when intel was good value

[mortal grail]

Honestly if it's too hard to muster up funds for this then I'd say it's better to mod an optiplex here from the sidewalk and buy a better monitor

[hoary zodiac]

Optiplex with coffee lake?

[mortal grail]

Mhm

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah look for an optiplex with an 8700

[mortal grail]

Even 10105f wouldn't be half bad

8400

10400f

9400

[surreal kernel]

there isn't any all of them r filled with pentiums

[hoary zodiac]

are

[mortal grail]

You won't find it immediately

Not free stuff

[hoary zodiac]

I mean you found the ryzen deal

Surely optiplexes exist

Look for "office pc"

[mortal grail]

$50 core 9th gen i5 pls

[hoary zodiac]

Dell precision with xeon /s

[hoary zodiac]

That's too much to ask for

That's like haswell price range

[surreal kernel]

my cousin

[ancient swift]

https://www.tomshardware.com/monitors/msis-ai-powered-gaming-monitor-helps-you-cheat-at-league-of-legends-looks-great-doing-it

😬

[surreal kernel]

has a i7 9th gen on a spare pc that his dad gave him for no reason

should I buy it off of him

my relationship isn't that good between us

that's why I'm saying buy

[mortal grail]

He probably won't give it to you cheap....

[surreal kernel]

he doesn't like to give away free stuff

he's stupid

he doesn't know anything about tech

ima low ball him

[hoary zodiac]

I'm going to sleep

[surreal kernel]

bro will probbaly trade it for my fortnite acc

[hoary zodiac]

Idk why but every day my sleep time drifts for one hour

It's 3:36

[surreal kernel]

yeah exactly

[grand kernel]

you're gonna need a new board for that unless you're willing to socket/coffeetime mod

[surreal kernel]

these listing aren't it

[hoary zodiac]

My sleep schedule is messed up

[surreal kernel]

is it difficult

[hoary zodiac]

Last night i slept at 2

Now it's 3:35

[grand kernel]

depends on what board you have

[hoary zodiac]

What is going on

[surreal kernel]

Asus h1100m a

[grand kernel]

if someone has already made a modded bios for your board then it's not so hard

[surreal kernel]

don't think so

[surreal kernel]

damn

[grand kernel]

ah yeah you probably shouldn't put a 9700/9700k in that anyways

[surreal kernel]

it's a dell so I'm p sure I can't like

[hoary zodiac]

isn't h110 a skylake chipset

[surreal kernel]

take the mobo too

[grand kernel]

yes

you can mod lga1151v1 to take lga1151v2 chips

seen 9900ks @ 5.2 on z170

[surreal kernel]

ik mpretty sure it's either a i7 or i9

either way its a upgrade

[grand kernel]

some people do that to run 9900k with ddr3 for ddr3 igpu competitions lmao

you'd probably be better served just getting something more modern

9700k should lose to i3-12100 in most games

and i3-12100 will have an upgrade path to i5-14400 or whatever

[mortal grail]

Or just go with an optiplex off the street and use the money instead for a monitor

[surreal kernel]

damn

[ancient swift]

Go dumpster diving

[mortal grail]

This is really bottom of the barrel tactics needed here

[grand kernel]

how bad is his monitor

[mortal grail]

4K 60

For 6600

[ancient swift]

4k 60 is fine for the greatest game of all time

[mortal grail]

It's not the worst 4k 60 panel but, you just shouldn't not for fps games

[grand kernel]

set it to 1080p and see if you can oc the refresh rate

[ancient swift]

Skyrim

[mortal grail]

Can't

Tried

[grand kernel]

sad

[mortal grail]

I owned an older version of the panel

[grand kernel]

my friend's 4k60 panel could do 1080p100

[mortal grail]

It wasn't the worst but compared to a decent screen it's a long way down

[ancient swift]

Funny thing is my brother's 1440p monitor was one of the 4k Panels they locked and sold as a 1440p monitor. Something broke and my brother can set it to 4k lol

[grand kernel]

neat

the switch from laptop back to desktop screen has me contemplating getting a 4k 32" screen again

[ancient swift]

Do it

[rancid juniper]

ultra hd

[mighty hazel]

Ahah thiojoe was right u can increase the resolution of your tv

[grand kernel]

gonna have to be after I graduate though

[rancid juniper]

crispy graphics

[grand kernel]

don't have enough room in my dorm

[rancid juniper]

😳

[mortal grail]

Mount to ceiling

[grand kernel]

my current setup is already very much pushing it lol

[mortal grail]

I know what ur thinking "they'd never approve a ceiling arm!" No I mean direct to the ceiling

[surreal kernel]

can I even take the cpu out of that thing?

[grand kernel]

also I might be starting to see the appeal of a 1440p laptop screen

[surreal kernel]

it looks like a tank from the inside

[mortal grail]

Out of what

[surreal kernel]

the hp Pavillion

I think it's a Pavillion

[ancient swift]

What about a 1600p handheld screen

[rancid juniper]

bro is still on his bottleneck arc

[mortal grail]

The cousin pre-built m

[grand kernel]

tried DLDSR on my laptop over break, it was surprisingly nice

[surreal kernel]

yes

[grand kernel]

2880x1600

[mortal grail]

You'd use it as is

[surreal kernel]

he said he'd give me it for free but bro has alot of empty words

[grand kernel]

as long as you can integer scale up from 800p native, sure

[mortal grail]

Stick the gpu into the pavilion

And psu

[rancid juniper]

fastest skylake cpu?

[ancient swift]

That's what people do on the legion go ye

[surreal kernel]

no I'm.not asking him for the whole pc

[grand kernel]

makes sense

[mighty hazel]

https://youtu.be/Jf9OZd2a5rU?si=J_-aN8IZwkGjS5Ei

[surreal kernel]

I alr told u I don't fw him like that

[grand kernel]

high res is nice for non gaming tasks and 800p scales up to 1600p nicely

[mortal grail]

I'd have no clue then I wasn't around for much of mid-lake

[rancid juniper]

this guy...

[grand kernel]

10900K

[rancid juniper]

the amount of times he fooled people back in the day

[surreal kernel]

nah he won't give me it

[rancid juniper]

💀

[mighty hazel]

6700K

[grand kernel]

what

[mortal grail]

I wonder if, running fortnite at 720p is the possible answer here

💀

[rancid juniper]

the sad truth of late-tel

[grand kernel]

it is the truth

[rancid juniper]

[rancid juniper]

ok

[surreal kernel]

compooper

look at what I found

[grand kernel]

rx 6600 kicking screaming and crying

[rancid juniper]

yes 6600 non xt guy?

[rancid juniper]

hOW MUCH?

[grand kernel]

Lek400 it says it right there smh

[rancid juniper]

kek

[surreal kernel]

380

[grand kernel]

wait a minute

[rancid juniper]

nice

[grand kernel]

4 dollars? I'll take that