storage-devices

[sour wadi]

Is there a p31 non gold?

[real lava]

^

[olive wadi]

p31 80+ platinum

[sour wadi]

I've never even seen anything about the p31 platinum, what's the differences?

[olive wadi]

uuuh die is denser iirc

idk is it even int he wild yet i stopped paying attention

[sour wadi]

Not that i can tell from a quick google search

[real lava]

It's not out yet

[indigo arch]

What's peoples thoughts on the firecuda drives(3.5inch)?
Thinking of getting a 2TB one for a game drive

[real lava]

eh

Just get normal barracuda

You don't need to go fancy on hdd, it won't matter much

Unless it's an enterprise drive

Oh it's an sshd, that's even sadder

[indigo arch]

Unless there is something else you recomend as a game drive other than the normal baracuda drives

[real lava]

SSHDs are just poor choice over plain old spinny bois

[indigo arch]

yeah i know its an SSHD. I remember they were once looked down on. Wasnt sure if that was still the case

[real lava]

They still suck

Their nand part is so small it doesn't even matter for storing lots of stuff

You're best off spend more on an ssd or save with plain old hdd

[indigo arch]

I got a WD Black 2TB right now but its making some pretty funky noises

[real lava]

Yeah that one's dyin

[indigo arch]

Yeah kinda sucks cos it was running perfectly fine until i installed a new AIO cooler and i must have bashed it. Since then it's been making noises like its spinning up and then stopping over and over or something like that

What would you suggest as a good 2.5 SSD for games?

[pallid orchid]

check the pins

and look at the sata ssds

[indigo arch]

Check the pins?

[pallid orchid]

yes

check the pins

the pinned messages

[indigo arch]

Oh ok that makes more sense now

[pallid orchid]

the pin from windshields

[indigo arch]

"Check the pins" sounds like you mean the pins of the drive

[pallid orchid]

yeah I can see how that can happen

[sour wadi]

Just get a wd blue 2tb hdd instead

[olive wadi]

hdds do make very funky noises

[minor sun]

Clicky hdds

[indigo arch]

Oh i know they make some weird noises but this one sounds more like when a turtle is getting busy....

[pallid orchid]

That is.... oddly specific and mildly disturbing

[indigo arch]

It might be oddly specific but it's oddly true if you were to look up the noise...
I think there was a video that went around a while ago of a turtle with a ceramic one in a garden and it was making the noise.
But that's the best way i can think to describe the noise that my drive is making if you wanted to try and find out 😂

[pallid orchid]

I dont wanna watch that

[indigo arch]

It's not a graphic video haha don't worry.
But sure thing

[astral sorrel]

Hi All! Looking for replacement hard drive / current: WD UltraSlim WD5000MPCK / Looking for SSD / this is for a Lenovo Yoga 211 / hard drive connector is for a HD that has a 10 pin connector ... any ideas where to find and get one?

[dense merlin]

Do gold hynix ssds come with a Sata cable?

[blazing musk]

There's a buying guide posted in the pins. Get one of the sata drives, whichever is cheapest in your area.

[dense merlin]

My friend is currently putting one into my partners pc and they don't have a sata cable

[blazing musk]

Drives in general don't typically come with cables

[dense merlin]

Thanks

[blazing musk]

It's usually the motherboard that comes with a couple cables

[dense merlin]

It was a pre built

A rather cheap one they got in like November

Vega 11

[blazing musk]

I hate when they're so cheap they can't even be bothered to include the spare parts...

[dense merlin]

Yeah

Guess it'll have to wait till next weekend

Neither of them had a flash drive so they were going to boot from the hdd

And install windows onto the ssd doing that

But they only have the one cable from the hdd so there's no way, right?

[blazing musk]

It's possible to install windows from a HDD, but it does need both power and data cables of course

[dense merlin]

Yeah thats what I meant

They only have the one sata cable

So even if they installed windows on the hdd, they couldn't get it onto the ssd

[red jay]

Aren't those SMR drives? That would be pretty bad for a game drive

[sour wadi]

its smr but its fine

[red jay]

I'm not sure about that, not for playing games off of

[sour wadi]

when playing games only part that is affected is launch time/map loading time

[red jay]

Well yea

[plush crag]

SMR's write more slowly, read should be the same

[red jay]

Yea I know, that's why it matters for games

GTA 5 is about to take 10 years to load lol

[sour wadi]

what lol no

also just put the games you play most on ssd

[cloud berry]

my question will probably be answered with "who even sells that anymore" but where could i find an expresscard 54 storage device

all i can find is usb 3.0 cards

[blazing musk]

It's been forever since I used one of those!
If I'm not mistaken you can put an expresscard 34 device into a 54 slot, and there's NVMe M.2 2242 adapters that would fit like this https://thinkmods.store/products/expresscard-to-nvme-adapter?variant=31805779148872

The SSDs that were originally made for expressport are all dead or otherwise trash so avoid those. Sabrent Rocket 2242 is a good option like it says on that page.

[cloud berry]

genius\

[kind sierra]

It's a pity that interface didn't catch on, it was pretty slick

[blazing musk]

Yeah it'd be pretty nice to have expandable slots like that on mainstream consumer models again

I guess the modular laptops that are coming out more kinda count

[cloud berry]

my dad thought it was a sata port lol

[real lava]

expresscard to nvme is so cool

[toxic thicket]

2TB Seagate drive valid?

[sour wadi]

Yes? Wdym by valid?

[blissful night]

I would assume they mean are they good?

[sour wadi]

I mean hdds are hdds for most people

As long as you've a boot ssd it's fine for other stuff but usually wd blue is cheaper

[toxic thicket]

Hdds are for grandparents

Slow

[blissful night]

HDDs are great for general purpose storage still

[toxic thicket]

Yeah but ssds exist

[blissful night]

They are very expensive for mass storage

You should always use a SSD for your boot drive, but HDDs are very cheap for mass storage and is fast enough for general purpose storage

[torpid adder]

If you don't store your shader data on a floppy drive are you even gaming

[toxic thicket]

I bought a floppy drive for gaming lol

I’ll just leave

[kind sierra]

SSDs are expensive, HDD still wins for bulk except in extreme budget builds

[trim cloak]

there is always a chance of used ssd’s 🤷‍♂️

and if you’re against that idea cause it’s used, you’re dumb

[kind sierra]

Ah yes, buying a used part that wears out quickly and can be used for crypto

Storage is basically the one thing I wouldn't buy used

[trim cloak]

and how does it wear out quickly exactly 🤨

under what conditions

for how long

in what environment

[red jay]

prob a cartel

[trim cloak]

goes to show they give techie role to anyone

[red jay]

i dont reccomend buying used electronics

[trim cloak]

and why not

[red jay]

bad luck

[kind sierra]

Pretty much any SSD can start getting failures in a year

[trim cloak]

especially under the case in which was presented (the real real budget case)

[red jay]

ok then

thats accepted

bye

[trim cloak]

any component has a chance of dying at any time bruh💀

wtf is your point

[red jay]

im stupid

[kind sierra]

Also HDD should still be cheaper than used SSD

[red jay]

literally just ignore i even chatted here ive been awake for 2 days

[trim cloak]

possibly, but there’s always a chance, as i said

[kind sierra]

And if you're okay buying used storage used hard drives will be even cheaper

[trim cloak]

and there’s fluctuations all throughout the world

ofc they will be, or if you want something half decent

[kind sierra]

Get a good SSD for the most commonly used stuff, HDD for everything else

There's no point buying used storage to get less storage at a higher price for basically no gain

[sour wadi]

But hdds cheaper

[kind sierra]

All SSD just isn't practical at the budget where you'd consider buying used

[trim cloak]

for a cheap cheap ass budget system you won’t have both drives

and booting off a decent ssd for cheap is more ideal than a slightly cheaper hdd

[kind sierra]

Cheap cheap you have a single SSD, anything up to maybe 2k USD is SSD + HDD. Everything beyond that depends on the use case

You'd never run on just HDD, that's just dumb

[rancid pike]

Has anyone actually determined a difference between a Seagate hard drive and WD? as in they're both say, 2tb and 7200 rpm, would there be any discernible difference?

last i checked it was still opinion based lol

[minor sun]

It's just opinion based bar bits of info we do have

Like WD telling which drives are smr and cmr

But other than that, a brand is just a name

[rancid pike]

alr, thanks

[red jay]

Yes They're Damn Slow

[toxic thicket]

I have a barracuda 2TB drive (I have a nvme ssd as boot drive) and use it for storing games and stuff

[trim cloak]

that’s why i’m saying to get a used ssd for cheap cheap💀

cause i’m not saving a little bit more just to run off of one used hdd

WHICH as you brought up, can fail easier

frickin moving parts noob. me and my homies love stationary storage

[kind sierra]

When did I say HDD could fail easier?

Used SSD is gonna be way more error prone and still more expensive than a good HDD

And the HDD is new

[minor sun]

Tbh in situations I see, more often then not they can do all SSD and work well

1tb SSD on the low end, they can choose to do 1tb+2tb SSD on the higher end

[kind sierra]

Still better to used mixed than to buy used SSD though

[minor sun]

Oh ofc if that's the only two options

Chia hit hard

[kind sierra]

Used SSD sucks

They also aren't even good deals

Like the best deal I've seen was an $50 1TB intel 660p that the seller says that they mined on for three months

So a dead drive

[sour wadi]

Yikes

I'd rather spend an extra 30$ and get an mx500 anyday

[spice hedge]

I would never buy any of them used but I wouldn't mind an open-box one if it was never used

[real lava]

bruh

If it was used by a normal user I wouldn't mind

But chia miner, ew

[trim cloak]

ok i didn’t say you said that, i did

also don’t look on ebay for used, your acting like that’s the only place for used items 💀

and even then, you have to scroll a bit to get to the good deals

like a 1tb s rocket for $60

(obv not that drive and capacity you should look for, but an example)

if you simply search quickly on ebay you’ll get nowhere

[real lava]

tru but

Used ssd, especially with chia mining is.. scary

[kind sierra]

I never said that, now shut up and stop trolling

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265329497211?epid=6035792194&hash=item3dc6ded47b:g:3yQAAOSwYqVhPguo
This is the "$60" drive you mentioned, it's an auction that for all intents and purposes hasn't even started yet

It also screams scam

[trim cloak]

i said “you’re acting like” because you showed one screenshot of one page with only three drives. i never said you said that

[trim cloak]

no i’m talking about past purchases…

from me and my friends

who i help build their computer

i’m not trolling, you’re just wrong 💀

i’m being so serious rn, i just don’t get why you can comprehend

[upper quiver]

not really sure how the convo got to this point, but basically, i wouldnt trust used storage, and i certainly dont trust "new" storage either. its all about the source, and without the ability to track where a storage device has been and what its been used for, i will only recommend that people purchase their storage from trustworthy sources.

ebay is not a trustworthy source, and with both amazon and newegg, paying attention to the seller you are buying from is very important

[minor sun]

tbh used deals are annoying, just because demonmit can buy say a new 1tb drive for 30$ doesn't mean everyone can

[upper quiver]

but sometimes, getting refurbished hard drives off ebay for cheap for something like game storage is fine, but the inconvenience of having to redownload all your games when the drive fails much sooner than most other new drives isnt worth the 20 dollars in savings imo

[minor sun]

with chia, I just don't trust used ssds in general

[upper quiver]

yes, ssds are a totally different story

forgot to specify which kind of drive i was talking about lmao

[minor sun]

sure there might be some good deals with good drives out there, but that's annoying to find and often not the case

[kind sierra]

If all you're looking for is budget game storage, save the money and the hassle and go HDD

[minor sun]

depends on how budget

Close to 80$ for a new 1tb m.2 drive nowadays is real neat

[kind sierra]

I guess if you don't have that many games, sure

[minor sun]

often people don't

[upper quiver]

you can get 4x the capacity for the same price tho

[minor sun]

yeye x300 4tb is neat too

but most gamers don't need 4tb of game storage

[upper quiver]

but yeah, i guess it depends on what ya play

[upper quiver]

in the same way your average consumer will never need more than 640k of ram?

[minor sun]

lol yes

[upper quiver]

the latest cod games have been like 100+ gb lol

its stupid

[minor sun]

I'm speaking from information now for advice now

[upper quiver]

true

[minor sun]

your average cod gamer that downloads that 200gb cod game usually only plays that 1 big cod game

[upper quiver]

ive got friends who arent big gamers though, and they have to constantly uninstall and reinstall games on their 1tb hdd

[kind sierra]

For now, I'd aim for 1-2 TB in a system

[plush crag]

I think it really depends how much game storage you need

[minor sun]

I still think 1tb is good enough for most people

[kind sierra]

I see 1TB and under fill up way too much

[upper quiver]

truee

lol

[plush crag]

Like, if you're on dial up and never want to have to re-download something ever, yeah get an 8TB HDD / nas etc

[minor sun]

I can still game fine on some games I want to play with

[upper quiver]

i think people think 1TB will be enough, but then a year later suddenly its not

[minor sun]

yea that's another consideration

[upper quiver]

then they have to redownload fortnite everytime we want to play it

but also uninstall some other game

[plush crag]

For something like a $2k build, I like recommending 1-2TB boot drives if I know the user doesn't want to fuss with installing things in different places

[minor sun]

Honestly I kinda like how I have to re-evaluate what I've downloaded and what I actually play and/or need

[minor sun]

and yea, that's what I would suggest too

[upper quiver]

does depend on the user though, cuz my 4k build only has a 512gb ssd

if someone knows how to make a steam library folder, then let them save money

[plush crag]

My daily still has a 500gb 960 evo because I'm too lazy to move my install

[upper quiver]

if not, then yeah, 2tb ssd all the way lol

[kind sierra]

I have my windows install on 300GB SSD with 1TB of HDD for storage

[upper quiver]

i would agree thats all most people really need, assuming they arent playing AAA games

once you install mw2019 though, its all over

[kind sierra]

I don't touch cod

I think the biggest game I have is R6

[plush crag]

Storage is also one of the easiest things to expand, especially now with multiple m.2's on a mobo + the option to use the x4 slot with a riser

I think I have about 1TB of games installed, but only play faster than light

I use a 860 evo 1TB off ebay for games/ large-ish files

Kinda want to make a workstation out of the 9980

[kind sierra]

I personally probably only have about 200-300GB of games installed

Maybe more, I never check what epic is doing, so there might be some space there

[plush crag]

But my x299 board is only 4 dimm and I don't own >16GB udimms in ddr4

[kind sierra]

I think I'm getting close to 3TB of storage used overall though. I'm not an average use case

[minor sun]

Welp, 1tb ssd just wouldn't really hurt in a build

not too expensive, not too small, not hard to install, not hard to expand upon

[plush crag]

My daily is basically just a discord, chrome, faster than light, and ssh terminal machine lol

[minor sun]

mmm

[plush crag]

Downloaded the new diablo, but haven't touched it

[minor sun]

I probably have like 600gb of games actually installed total, but the games I actually play take like 200gb

[devout tulip]

Hello I was wondering if someone could help me with a problem

[winged sapphire]

Whats the problem?

[devout tulip]

So I’m having a problem with loading up games Ive tried everything possible clean the pc updates everything I’m able to do I’m starting to think it’s my hard drive

I do have an ssd but I have no idea how to transfer files over

[dense merlin]

Do they not load or is it just a long load time?

[winged sapphire]

Id say ask a techie

[dense merlin]

Kinda why he's here

[devout tulip]

I can get into online like rainbow but stuck loading up ranked and eventually I give up

[dense merlin]

Could also be internet

[devout tulip]

I have cable right into my pc

And checked that it’s fine apparently

[dense merlin]

Whats your ping like when you load in?

[minor sun]

Is loading the issue or is the game just freezing/crashing

[devout tulip]

Loading

And give me once sec I can check

[minor sun]

The game is responsive, and you're just stuck loading?

[devout tulip]

Yes

[minor sun]

often just a siege issue tbh, any other game you can test?

[devout tulip]

GTA I can try

But loading is still very slow

But will load

[dense merlin]

Gta also has long loading lol

[minor sun]

gta loading is just really annoying, it's slow no matter the drive xD

[dense merlin]

I used to call it loading simulator

[devout tulip]

Lmao

I’m

Um

I think I tried warzone and didn’t work

[dense merlin]

It loads the same on my current pc with an ssd as it did on my old pc with an hdd

[minor sun]

Siege I can often just get stuck loading with no issues and the game just doesn't want to work with me

[dense merlin]

Warzone should work

[devout tulip]

Granted I also don’t use my pc a lot

This is the first time in like 6 months

[dense merlin]

How old is the hdd?

Oh

[devout tulip]

It’s only 2 years old

[dense merlin]

Probably not the best of situations

[devout tulip]

Yea

I have a 2700 and rtx2700

[minor sun]

could just cdm it if you want to

[dense merlin]

Hdds tend to last around 3 years iirc (on average) depends on what type of hdd it is

[minor sun]

lmao that's what I had

[dense merlin]

Question

[devout tulip]

Yea

[dense merlin]

Why have no ssd in a pc with a 2070

[devout tulip]

It was my first pc

Cut corners

[dense merlin]

Ah

[devout tulip]

More space on HD’s

Hdd

[minor sun]

I mean, backblaze have some drive models that are 5 years old ON AVERAGE

that are still working

[devout tulip]

I have a wd blue

[minor sun]

with low afr

[devout tulip]

Just not plugged in

[dense merlin]

I mean I currently have a used hgst that's 3 years old

[minor sun]

drives can last decades sometimes

[dense merlin]

Still going strong

Yes I know

[minor sun]

HGST is great

[dense merlin]

But the average hdd life span is 3 years, I think someone here told me that

[minor sun]

I disagree with them

[dense merlin]

Yeah I've heard

I got it from trading 2x8 3600mhz cl18 ripjaws

[devout tulip]

So I should switch my drive then?

[minor sun]

backblaze with a large dataset

[dense merlin]

It couldn't hurt to test it, but an hdd is an hdd

[devout tulip]

True

Ok thank you

[dense merlin]

My external hdd died after less than a year

After corrupting once around the two month mark

Seagate too

[devout tulip]

I have a sea gate

So

[dense merlin]

But externals aren't internals

Seagate tends to be decent

[minor sun]

(often are)

[devout tulip]

I’m gonna go m.2

[minor sun]

just internal drive in an enclosure

[dense merlin]

Oh true

Mine was an actual portable, not an enclosure

Bought it when I was trying a gaming laptop

The laptop sucked and I returned that but kept the hard drive

Had got it on sale for 45$, 2tb

[devout tulip]

If this doesn’t fix it I’m upgrading anywya

So I’ll just go from there

[dense merlin]

Yeah good luck

[minor sun]

also

[dense merlin]

There's a guide in pins for buying an ssd

[minor sun]

could just download and use hd sentinel rq

or cdi

[devout tulip]

Ok I’ll do that

[minor sun]

check drive health

[dense merlin]

Ima trust Mr here and shut up

Bc I have no clue what those are

[minor sun]

ssd is nice

hd sentinel and cdi both just give an estimate on drive health using smart data

[dense merlin]

And you can keep an hdd in the system for storing things

[minor sun]

cdi is crystal disk info btw

[dense merlin]

But the games tou want to load better and such could store on the ssd

[devout tulip]

Quick question @dense merlin how’s your performance I’m thinking abt this setup as my new one

[dense merlin]

And use it as your boot drive

[devout tulip]

And thank you

I’m gonna to go full ssd

[dense merlin]

Performance for what, my gpu and cpu?

[devout tulip]

Yes

[minor sun]

10400/11400 can also work nicely with 3060ti

but 2070 in general still is not bad for 1080p, don't need a gpu upgrade that badly from 2070 atm

[dense merlin]

Well

[devout tulip]

Is it comfortable with 1440p

[minor sun]

2070 starts to struggle with 1440p

[devout tulip]

Yea

[minor sun]

but getting a gpu atm is

not fun

[devout tulip]

I’m going to go prebuilt sadly but these graphics card proves are through the roof

Prices

[dense merlin]

There's kinda a shortage rn

I'd reccomend sticking with what you have till it's done, or until you can get a better card at msrp

I like my set up, it performs great @1080p

2700x is also not worth upgrading to a 3600, id reccomend going for a 5600x at that point or sticking with your current cpu. Just my opinion though, others might be different

[devout tulip]

Ok

[dense merlin]

Sorry super slow internet rn

[devout tulip]

I know Ryzen has improved a lot since the 2700

[dense merlin]

I sent those messages 2min ago

[devout tulip]

So I like to stick with them for something

Oh lmao

[minor sun]

2700 to 5600x can be nice

if mobo fine

[devout tulip]

I have a b450 rog

[minor sun]

eh

no flashback is sad

vrms ok ig

would need to flash bios before upgrading

[devout tulip]

I can upgrade that

[dense merlin]

What's your psu?

[devout tulip]

I might just do a mobo cpu and gpu upgrade

750

Evga

[trim cloak]

ok i get the first part, but like i said there’s an abundance of used deals, and you can always ask. what i don’t get is trusting new storage devices…what?

[trim cloak]

why not. also it’s not only ebay that’s a thing

[minor sun]

I believe they're talking about listings on ebay that says new, but really aren't

[trim cloak]

well that’s why you have patience and look..

no one EVER finds a good deal for cheap

whether it’s house hunting, for cars, or whatever

that’s just common sense?

[minor sun]

Problem is deals can often be one-time things

one guy sells something for cheaper

if you want to spend your time deal hunting, sure

I don't like recommending it

it's just no guarantees

[trim cloak]

i mean, ebay has amazing buyers protection. so it wouldn’t matter, and they most likely are new, what reason would they lost it as that, when it’s easily returnable

[minor sun]

you often still have to pay for shipping tho

which is annoying

[trim cloak]

well, i think that’s just part of the process if you want a cheap system, or just wanna save money

oh yea that’s true, shipping. just hope it’s not too bad lol

[minor sun]

I though the context we were going for was like 1k-2k usd systems where you have a bit of slack in terms of budget

but if you need like a 300$ pc, I agree

you take what you can get

[trim cloak]

nah, if the budget was $1-2k that wouldn’t make any sense🤷‍♂️

[minor sun]

prob the main reason we just really don't like used storage is because we usually talk about and work with builds more like that budget

but when your budget means either a 500gb ssd used vs 250gb ssd new, one is more appealing than the other

or ssd vs no ssd

[trim cloak]

250gb😳

never that

[minor sun]

return to 32gb ssd

[trim cloak]

😩the days

you download plinko or idk with that

[minor sun]

I choose idk

[trim cloak]

fair enough

[upper quiver]

you cant say the drive you recieved is a used drive in disguise when you have no proof

and they are almost never new

if they were new, you wouldnt be getting a deal anyway, and you would be better off just buying a drive off newegg

[kind sierra]

If you want to save money buying used parts, buy used parts that don't wear out as fast and represent a much bigger part of your budget

Used storage just isn't really worth it unless you want to hit a really tight budget

With the exception of drives from personal sources, I'd maybe start thinking of using used storage if I was trying to build a system for less than four or five hundred

That's still a maybe though, 512gb mp33 drops under fifty bucks a lot

[red jay]

Anyone know how to fix this? Tried everything I can and windows won't re install

[trim cloak]

so how would you know??

as time just said

also yes, you could always look at your drive’s health status

just download CDM💀, also when has anyone gotten a used product listed as new

that’s seems like a whole lotta hoopla

[upper quiver]

yeah you clearly arent familiar with the storage market, so lets just leave it at that

:P

[kind sierra]

Do you mean CDI?

[trim cloak]

well then please educate me🤨

why on earth would someone do that

and is there actual reports of that happening?

or are you just butthurt rn, and trying to back away without saying anything

[kind sierra]

That'd be you

[kind sierra]

Yes, that sort of thing happens all the time

You really think people never lie about a product that they're selling on the internet?

[trim cloak]

well then..show it

ofc people lie

[kind sierra]

Yeah

[trim cloak]

but not about the difference between used and new

might be open box or whatnot

[kind sierra]

Yes, they do

[trim cloak]

but even then, you can check it

ok, then show it

[kind sierra]

They lie about whatever they think they can get away with

[trim cloak]

find something

cause that wouldn’t make any sense

i’ve bought 3 ssd’s on ebay and 2 on craigslist..both new and all

with “sketchy low prices”

or never seen a review about it

so please, show me

and stop deflecting and coping

[kind sierra]

Do the people that sell pictures of components count?

Listed as new, it shows up and it's a piece of paper

[trim cloak]

no, cause that’s just a straight scam, they never had it in the first place

that’s not used lol

[kind sierra]

You're just going to keep deflecting tighter and tighter no matter what I say, so I'm just going to stop talking to you

[trim cloak]

that’s clearly not used tho😅

like…what??

[kind sierra]

Either you are incredibly naive, trolling, or trying to protect some fragile ego. I don't care to find out which

So goodbye

If you want to find example stories of false listings look them up yourself

[trim cloak]

or you just can’t provide it :)

and here you go backing down when not at least finding one review

or article, post, anything to show who’s dumb enough to list that

[dense merlin]

yall, you can argue without being rude to eachother

i just got here, but you dont have to ******* do eachother

[trim cloak]

don’t think i’ve called him a single name lol :D

[dense merlin]

that isnt all being rude is

youre being passive agressive, and you know it

bob, youre also being rude

you can have an adult conversation without being rude

[trim cloak]

fair enough

[kind sierra]

Fine

https://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=92445

There ya go Josh

It happens, and not just in some sketchy back alley

There was a decent sized scandal about some returned items being sold with new items at newegg a while back

Now I am done talking to you

[upper quiver]

no 🙄

[trim cloak]

oh in 2014

well at least you showed something

so thanks

[upper quiver]

the billions of enterprise hdds from datacenters from across the globe are very good

so good infact, that even upon retirement, they are still viable

albeit anywhere from 5-10 years old

what people do is pull as many of these drives as they can from recycling centers and retired servers, clear the SMART data, do their best to wipe the data off these drives, and physically clean the drive.

then they shrink wrap em

put em in a box

sell em as new for cheaper than real new HDDs, but still at a significant markup from what they are really worth

[kind sierra]

(fun fact, you can modify the smart data on a lot of drives)

[upper quiver]

yeah, you make that crap say whatever you want

[kind sierra]

It's like those tricks used car salesmen used to spin back the odometers

[upper quiver]

it is almost guarenteed that a "new" HDD off ebay will be in this condition

[torpid adder]

lol

[upper quiver]

otherwise you would just be better off paying msrp for a very recently produced hdd

[torpid adder]

my enterprise drive has the old smart data

[upper quiver]

its very hard to truly wipe a drive of its data

nearly all of those drives have bits of data that can be recovered from its past use

[kind sierra]

Did you buy it new or used?

[torpid adder]

used

[kind sierra]

So they had no reason to wipe it

[torpid adder]

oo does it have to be labelled new on ebay

ic

it was in the prebuilt I parted out to rebuild in my tt case

[upper quiver]

well yeah, if its labeled as used or a refurb, then its fine, but most sellers label them as brand new

shrink wrap and everything

[kind sierra]

I'd say some

I don't think it'd be most

[upper quiver]

then dont buy new drives on ebay smh

[kind sierra]

(and by think I mean hope)

[upper quiver]

just go other places

the ones that are actually new are priced normally, meaning you have no reason at all to buy on ebay

the unusually cheap new drives, are unusually cheap because they arent really new, in hopes that people buy a ton of "new cheap storage"

[real lava]

yep

[olive wadi]

i got my cm5-r on ebay and then wrote 2pib to it lol

[unreal moth]

hello, i have a question reguarding RAID 0 storage. would it be better to get a NVMe enclosure adapter that i can plug in externally with an NVMe drive or try to replace my RAID 0 storage with a better NVMe drive via duplicating my RAID 0 system?

I have an alienware m17 r2, a gaming laptop that came with RAID 0 storage

[blazing musk]

Honestly, if you get a good drive raid 0 is not necessary at all. There's no difference in game load times. Even load times between the best NVMe drives and SATA drives are only a couple seconds at best.

[unreal moth]

ah i see

tbh i wish i never got a gaming laptop, its so hot and unstable

[blazing musk]

An enclosure could still be used to make duplicating the system easier if you wanted

[unreal moth]

hmm alright

would something like this be good to get? https://www.amazon.com/Enclosure-Adapter-Tool-Free-Thunderbolt-External/dp/B08C2THR25/ref=asc_df_B08C2THR25/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459410835726&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11658887183128313020&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1018117&hvtargid=pla-944873148128&psc=1

[blazing musk]

Otherwise you could use clonezilla with a backup drive to copy to/from

That looks fine to me

[unreal moth]

ty for your time and input man

[blazing musk]

No problem

[small steppe]

TriplePrismG#7275 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

TriplePrismG#7275 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[barren sparrow]

I have a MacPro 3,1 early 2008 with an APPLE RAID card. Any recommendations for battery replacement? Is the card an A1247? Thanks!

[blissful night]

You can get those cards for like $30 on ebay

B922-8964 is the model for the battery itself

The batteries are around $100

[barren sparrow]

Great. Thanks a million!

[blissful night]

Check on eBay, you can just look up "apple raid battery"

[kind sierra]

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20210930VL200.html

[minor sun]

seems about right, a micron drive w 176l nand came out around june

[arctic forge]

I just bought two 8 TB Toshiba HDD's to replace a pair of 8 TB Seagate HDD's that have been making scary amounts of noise at computer start (to the point of triggering a BSOD on the same day the Toshibas showed up). Unfortunately, the Toshibas are making the same noise, and after copying the contents of the remaining Seagate drive onto the Toshibas (everything's Mirrored RAID), the Toshibas have about 0.25TB less free space than the Seagate, with the same number of files and file sizes, etc (I checked each folder individually). My gut reaction is that this means the racket from the Toshibas really was physical damage to the platters and the missing 0.25 TB of space represents the damaged sectors.

If so, it's time for more RMAs... Also, the Toshiba drives are 4096 byte sectors, while the Seagates were 512 byte sectors, and I'm wondering if that has anything to do with why the Toshibas seemed to be so painfully slow as a RAID array.

I have a short video of the graphics cards grinding, to see if that's a "normal" amount of noise or a "damaging" amount of noise, but I can't link youtube videos in this channel.

[kind sierra]

If the platters are actually damaged the drive probably wouldn't work at all

My guess is that the decrease in performance would be much more affected by other factors over sector size. If your drive supports it you might try using a 4096 byte logical sector though just to check

What seagate drive did you have before and what toshibas do you have now?

[arctic forge]

Seagate EXOS 7E8 (ST8000NM0045), and Toshiba X300.

What I'm wondering is if the slow performance of the Toshiba could have had anything to do with it failing, or with the chattering sound coming from it.

The most concerning issue is the missing 0.25 TB.

(And all the noise the drives were making. It was a worrying amount of noise, since it's the same noise the Seagates only recently started making that prompted me to buy replacements for them in the first place)

One of the Seagates seems to have been making 90% of the noise and has been removed.

[kind sierra]

The missing space is probably just the increased overhead from having more sectors

[arctic forge]

More, or bigger?

[kind sierra]

More sectors

[arctic forge]

The Seagate should have been the one with more, since its sectors are much smaller.

[kind sierra]

Mb, I read that backwards

[arctic forge]

Seagate: 512, Toshiba: 4096

[kind sierra]

Do you know if your file system is set to use 512 or 4k sectors?

[arctic forge]

I don't. I'm definitely wondering if the sector size is causing issues with the RAID software (which is just Windows default Disc Management)

I'm here because everything I try to look up through Google is between 6 and 10 years old.

[kind sierra]

Personally I doubt that the issues are due to physical damage to the drive.

I'd double check your sector sizes and make sure they're aligned properly

It looks like the Seagate drives are definitely faster, so some decrease in performance is to be expected

Hmm, looks like the Seagate drive also uses 4k sectors

[arctic forge]

Really? That's interesting, because these are Toshiba's "Gaming" drives, which advertise all kinds of speed and such. Honestly, they won't need much speed once they're up and running, because they're being used for bulk storage and video file hosting for in-home media streaming. The sector size thing is even more interesting, because I thought I saw them using the 512's somewhere, and assumed that's why I couldn't replace one of them with a Toshiba drive in the same RAID array.

My original plan was to swap a new drive for an old drive and rebuild the array, then do the same thing again, but the computer wouldn't let me

[kind sierra]

They have 4k physical sectors but are set up to use 512 logical sectors, probably for compatibility

[arctic forge]

Ahhhh, okay. One of those types. (I noticed that sort of thing in charts when I was starting to dig into this, but didn't think it applied to me)

[kind sierra]

Nvm, it's the nm0055 that does that. NM0045 is 4k for logical too

[arctic forge]

Huh. Which would suggest that Disc Management isn't the issue at all.

One of the concerning things I noticed is that, while all previous Mirrored Raid arrays would show very nearly equal disc usage during all read/write events, these two were all over the map, and frequently one would be near-max while the other was nearly zero.

After a day or so, they quieted down while simultaneously stopping that erratic usage behavior, so I'm curious to know what changed there, too.

[kind sierra]

I wonder if they have some sort of "eco" mode where they spin down a bit when not in heavy use. I've seen that sort of thing really slaughter raid performance before

[arctic forge]

My wife's come to pick me up for dinner, but I'll be back to this thread, grateful for any help and insight until this issue is resolved. 🙂 I'm very perplexed... And from a nerdy, techy point of view, I'm really, really curious now. 🙂

[arctic forge]

Back again: any idea how I would go about definitively proving how much "overhead" a drive naturally uses? I know the best time would have been when it was still empty, but it's too late for that now...

It's still weird to me that one 8 TB drive would have 0.25TB less space than a supposedly identical drive from a different brand...

[real lava]

Different brands has different firmwares ofc so ye

[arctic forge]

But 250 Gigabytes just because of different firmware?! Windows 10 only uses 50-ish GB, and that's already insane!

[sour wadi]

50gb for windows is pretty reasonable considering how many millions of lines of code it has

[kind sierra]

Depending on the configuration of the sectors and a possible difference in the sector count between drives it's not unreasonable

[arctic forge]

Well, then, I guess I learned something new. That's astounding that the difference is that big, but I guess it must be something about the percentage of the total size of the drive. Best guess, then: I'm probably gonna warranty RMA the Seagate drives, since there's 2 years left on those warranties, and see about doing something else with the Toshibas... On the one hand, I'm guessing they'll run better independently, but on the other hand, I shudder to think of an 8 TB drive without some sort of backup...

[compact cape]

ideal cache for an m.2?

[minor sun]

If you're talking about how Samsung markets the size of their cache, doesn't really matter, if you're asking about cache drive for like a nas, completely different kind of question.

[opaque kelp]

can anybody help me out? i have the sabrent rocket nvme and its write speeds arent running at its rated speed

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/N7zkcf/sabrent-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-sb-rocket-1tb

how do i fix this? its rated write speed is 3,000

while i only get 1200

it was running at its rated speed earlier (couple days ago), but i installed a hard drive recently so i dont know if it has anything to do with it

[olive wadi]

sometimes it really do just be like that

[opaque kelp]

😔

[warped rampart]

me when marketing

[opaque kelp]

anybody know how to fix this?

[kind sierra]

Is windows doing anything in the background?

[upper quiver]

yeah, your mom

[echo lagoon]

idk

[trim cloak]

no

that’s the max sequential sequence of it’s writing

not the rated speeds

it’s a rough estimate of what it can get, while many other drives surpass or fall below it.

just learn to deal with it ig

[kind sierra]

That low of write speeds an the sabrent rocket is unusual, I'm guessing that there's something odd going on here

Background tasks also writing to the disk, some weird windows driver thing, something along those lines

[opaque kelp]

well do you guys know how to fix it? or its just like that forever

[trim cloak]

oh yea

im just letting them know that it's not gonna retain 3000 always or even get it

[opaque kelp]

????????????

if you look at reviews, you could see almost everyone of them getting the speeds its rated at?

[trim cloak]

yea idk how to fix that, either you're unlucky or you're not checking everything

[opaque kelp]

what do i check?

[trim cloak]

yea ik, different drives (even if same model) can perform differently

[opaque kelp]

so i got unlucky???

[trim cloak]

no idea lol

try it again

[opaque kelp]

i’ve tried it at least 10 times now

[trim cloak]

uh, make sure you're using x4 lol XD

yea idk then

[opaque kelp]

……..

wait what do you mean x4?

[trim cloak]

pcie lanes

[olive wadi]

drive performance changes with fill state, reviewers condition their drive to get accurate results,

[olive wadi]

read speed would be gimped too then

write speed can vary drastically from advertised so idk lol

[trim cloak]

only if it’s filled more than that lol, he’s written 250gb out of 1tb

[olive wadi]

not really something to worry about tbh

[olive wadi]

sure, but reviewers also typically test a small unused partition

[trim cloak]

so it wouldn’t change that drastically out of only 1/4 tbh

[trim cloak]

yea yea

[trim cloak]

i’m just trying to think of options 😩

i’m gonna play RL actually, nvm

[olive wadi]

options: drive is fine ignore it

[opaque kelp]

bet time to ignore it

sadge drive is like that tho

[minor sun]

Just keep in mind reviewers use clean install of windows, often stripped, no background apps.

[trim cloak]

according to newmaxx to maximize your drive’s performance you’re supposed to use linux🤓

[olive wadi]

i mean linux is better than windows this isn't new

[trim cloak]

except i will never switch 😤

windows gang>

[limpid snow]

Imagine refusing to admit Linux better than windows.

[trim cloak]

linux is better than windows.

i just won’t switch…

[limpid snow]

Weak.

[trim cloak]

cry about it

[kind sierra]

For raw I/O performance, idk

NTFS is arguably better suited for SSDs than ext4

Unfortunately there's no good way to actually test which is better

Thanks windows

[limpid snow]

I wouldn’t know. I don’t have an intimate knowledge with how NTFS, ext4, or even SSDs work.

[kind sierra]

Tldr, ext4 is designed to be much more immune to drive fragmentation at the expense of taking a little bit longer on writes

Since fragmentation is a non-issue on SSDs you lose the advantage from that approach

[limpid snow]

Ah I see.

[kind sierra]

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-50-filesystems
Here's a comparison of a few different filesystems

No NTFS for obvious reasons

Also btrfs has gotten some performance improvements since 5.0, so the numbers are a little closer to the others now

[limpid snow]

Interesting, I’ll give it a good read soon.

[olive wadi]

not yet, ive basically completed switched for laptop useage, but keep it on my desktop for gaming

[olive wadi]

btrfs king????

jokes aside, SSD performance can matter differently on linux in say a server environment with deep que workloads

[trim cloak]

i might get a laptop for college, then switch OS, idk 🤷‍♂️

[kind sierra]

btrfs on SSD is a joke. It's pretty nice for hard drive though

[olive wadi]

aarrr snapshot or something lol

[opaque kelp]

update: smart access memory is the one causing all this trouble smh

its working now

and of course i had to redownload it to this crystaldisk

😎

all ^

poggers

[blazing musk]

And that is why I leave it off, besides it not giving any benefit in the games I play

[sour wadi]

A lot of the time it hurts performance in games too

[olive wadi]

kurei kei edition is king

(is that just for cdi idk?)

[upper quiver]

yeah its just for cdi

[red jay]

My 9 year old hard drives takes about 5 minutes to boot into windows, and another 6 minutes to start the applications I have to open on startup

[solid hill]

Which games should have priority on being stored on the nvme 1 tb drive?

Do people normally spread their steam library out over multiple ssds?

[sour wadi]

The ones you play the most

[blazing musk]

There's only a few games that actually load any faster on nvme than sata. Maybe a 2 second difference is the most I've seen.

[olive wadi]

if you want to use directstorage with something that will support it, put it on NVME

[echo lagoon]

Is blue digital a good ssd brand?

[torpid adder]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-is-going-on-the-wat-what-what-the-why-gif-17588081

[echo lagoon]

Western blue digital sorry

[torpid adder]

decent products

[kind sierra]

Yup, some are better than others

[real lava]

western digital blue you meant

kek

[torpid adder]

lmao

[echo lagoon]

Lol

[minor sun]

Western digital = Brand
Blue = Product name

[hasty osprey]

which better

https://www.amazon.co.uk/WD-Blue-SN550-High-Performance-Pcie/dp/B07YFFX5MD/ref=pd_sbs_1/261-5980446-6214603?pd_rd_w=tP7ku&pf_rd_p=a3a7088f-4aec-4dbd-97cc-9a059581fe7b&pf_rd_r=J9CQTMAETKS0EW5EZEXB&pd_rd_r=ba7ee729-7e51-4672-acbe-3e8b36c0872a&pd_rd_wg=r35pU&pd_rd_i=B07YFFX5MD&psc=1

or this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07VXC9QMH/?coliid=I320M3QCCB1TVB&colid=3GBB502JIUK7T&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1

i think blue is but im not sure

[upper quiver]

prolly the blue

[hasty osprey]

each exact same price btw too £69.98

[minor sun]

Sn550 neat

[hasty osprey]

k

ima prob get the blue then in the next few days

[upper quiver]

A2000 doesnt seem so bad

[hasty osprey]

yh but i mean they the same price

[upper quiver]

still get the 550

i just havent seen the a2000 before

[hasty osprey]

if one goes of sale ill just get the cheaper one but if they stay the same ill go blue

[sour wadi]

A2000 good same tier as sn550

[upper quiver]

yeah, from the TH testing, that what i figured

[real lava]

a2000 has worse failure rate tho

kingston drives are random in quality

[sour wadi]

Ohh really?

[real lava]

Yep

[sour wadi]

Sad

[real lava]

Some people had them die within weeks

So I don't recc it

Not even chia mining

Just normal user

[olive wadi]

A2000 if they are both the same price

[olive wadi]

ok but who cares lol

[real lava]

Doesn't mp33 exist?

[olive wadi]

mp33 is worse than both

[sour wadi]

^

[real lava]

Whelp

[sour wadi]

Also sn550 value in uk is

[real lava]

I would stick sn550 but Imma dip now

It's late

[sour wadi]

It's 96£

[real lava]

oof

Well yeah that sucks

Tho wd released sn570 lately

I wonder how it performs

Similar price to 550

[sour wadi]

Hmm i haven't seen it pop up yet

[real lava]

It's also dramless

It popped on the us amazon

The sn 570 is basically same as 550, pcie 3.0

[sour wadi]

Interesting

[real lava]

But probs diff under the hood

Then again, gunna wait for tests

[olive wadi]

a2000>sn550 if the same price

especially after the a2000s firmware update which boosts performance and fixes its inability to recover SLC

SPONGEBOY ME BOB ME PSLC CACHE RECOVERY TIME IS OVER ONE MONTH!

[red jay]

Dang, my college's WD740 is pretty much dead

There goes my chance to use a 2nd generation raptor drive :(

[real lava]

Oh

[red jay]

Welp nevermind, the wd740 works, just installed windows 10 on it and I'm running crystaldiskmark

It's definitely seen better days though lol

About 30k hours, 705 power ons

[blazing musk]

Reallocated sectors mean it's near the end of its life

[red jay]

Yea I know

[real lava]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/acer-fa100-nvme-ssd-review/2

I knew it would be mega trash

Costs closely to sn 550

And it's worse

[sour wadi]

Acer make ssds lol?

[real lava]

Wait, its randoms is better than 970 evo plus

At low queue depth

It just loads games slower than sn550

Nand is good

But controller sucks

It uses micron's 176 layer tlc

[sour wadi]

Rip

[real lava]

Missed potential by acer

Like they coulda done it better

And it'd be the new budget ssd

[olive wadi]

FAKE INNOGRIT IS KING

[trim cloak]

i don’t agree

[minor sun]

3dxpoint not a viable alternative here

[trim cloak]

aw shucks

[olive wadi]

SAYS WHO

[minor sun]

SAYS STUFFING 3DXPOINT INTO A SN550

[real lava]

Then..

Firmware sucks? I guess?

It's acer so idk what to expect from em

They're so trash they probably didn't do anything

[sour wadi]

Well if it's firmware there's hope

[real lava]

Yeah

Hope that they update it and fix the issues

[olive wadi]

why are you surprised that a budget drive is slow just because its using imft 176 layer

[real lava]

I wasn't surprised, just dunno much lel

[trim cloak]

it’s*

[queen fulcrum]

what is better for memory, Nvme or SSD?

[sour wadi]

Nvme is a protocol just like sata, so do you mean if nvme is better than sata?

[queen fulcrum]

yea, im still learning all of the terms, i currently have a https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-500gb/p/N82E16820250112?Item=N82E16820250112, is it worth getting some SSDs?

[sour wadi]

That is an ssd, if you want more fast storage you can but there's not a lot of point if you don't need it

[queen fulcrum]

i just need more storage

[sour wadi]

How much you looking for and for what ? Do you want it to be fast or do you mind it being slower?

Cuz otherwise you could get a hard drive

[queen fulcrum]

looking to go to like 1tb

[sour wadi]

Well hard drive will be like 50$

Ssd will be like 80-120$

[trim cloak]

1tb hard drive

[kind sierra]

2tb hard drive ftw

[sour wadi]

That's why i said 50$ cuz no point getting 1tb hdd anymore

[trim cloak]

you didn’t specify 2tb🤨

how would they know

[sour wadi]

Was waiting to see if there was a follow up lol

[trim cloak]

ahh

[dense merlin]

so i got my SO an ssd, they plugged it in and everything, its not showing up ni anything

is there anything you have to do once its in?

ive only installed an hdd after a pc was together

[olive wadi]

yes you need to initialize it in disk management (windows)

tool is called create and format hard disk partitions

[dense merlin]

thanks

[dense merlin]

im tryna get windows on my SOs ssd
and installation media only lets it upgrade or get on a usb
and they dont have a usb

whats the tool called that copies everything from one drive and puts it on another?

[blazing musk]

Well lacking a USB you can't do clonezilla

[dense merlin]

isnt there a software to just copy everything from one drive to the other?

i think pato mentioned it the other day

[blazing musk]

Macrium Reflect?

[dense merlin]

maybe?

[blazing musk]

That would be used to clone the drive to a mirror copy

[dense merlin]

i have no clue what that means

if it copies everything from the hdd thats fine

[blazing musk]

Everything on drive A would be copied to drive B, including all the system files

[dense merlin]

they can just format the hdd after

yeah thatd be fine, as long as it works

https://www.quest.com/products/kace-systems-deployment-appliance/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwnoqLBhD4ARIsAL5JedJezrbZdUU32ltN2XijWKzU6ZyyIeijQOnleV9A7zmz4O7b2oqvPAkaApg2EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds is this it?

nvm

found it

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

[blazing musk]

Yeah so what you can do then is do the copy, and then once the new computer is running do a pc reset right away so all the system files get reset

[dense merlin]

cool thanks

[dense merlin]

ok so

were in the boot manager

i have no clue which drive is the hdd and which is the ssd

the names are similar af

nothing like "gold hynix" or anything

[blazing musk]

Unplug any drive you don't need to make it simpler

[dense merlin]

apparently the thing was displaying wrong and it didnt actually copy anything to the ssd

so now we have to actually copy it after formatting it so it dfisplays properly in the software

fun times

[pallid orchid]

Any removeable drive works

You can technically use a floppy disk

[blazing musk]

That's a lot of floppies

[blissful night]

Floppy emulator :))

[karmic rock]

So I just tried to download debian to my old x58 system

And I thought the download was successful

but all I'm currently seeing is a flashing underscore even after ensuring that my system booted from the correct HDD

Could this have something to do with the fact that the HDD is in a RAID configuration?

I'm not really sure at this point, but I would really like to get an OS on my system

[blazing musk]

Yeah linux doesn't usually have the correct raid driver out of the box

If any part of the system is on a raid volume it'll fail like that

[karmic rock]

that and any time I boot, even preceding installing linux, it says hard drive not found

and yet it shows two hard drives, RAID:Intel Fast and 2.2TB Infinity along with my flash drive and cd drive in the boot menu

[blazing musk]

The boot menu doesn't need drivers like the os does

[karmic rock]

I'm going to try putting linux on the drive labeled 2.2TB infinity

[red jay]

Hi guys

Is there difference between M.2 drive and SSD?

[real lava]

m.2 is also ssd

[red jay]

Yeah but it's small in is right?

[real lava]

m.2 is different form factor than 2.5" sata ones

[red jay]

sorry i meaan the size

[real lava]

so yes it's smaller

[red jay]

Is there speed difference between them?

[real lava]

m.2 drives these days are almost always nvme

so yes, they're faster

compared to sata ones

[red jay]

So that's why they are little bit expensive on M.2 drive

[sour wadi]

Not necessarily sometimes nvme drives are cheaper but yeah

[red jay]

Hmm..

[dense merlin]

Ok so

Question

Is there room for an nvme drive on the asrock b550m/ac

[sour wadi]

Ye

Basically all motherboards from the last few years have at least 1 m.2 slot

[dense merlin]

Additional question: should I turn the psu off or does it not really matter since it's just storage

[sour wadi]

When installing the drive? Nah just have the pc turned off

[dense merlin]

Actually might have to unplug it anyways

Have to move it off my desk kek

Is this it @sour wadi ?

[sour wadi]

That ones for wifi, should be above your gpu

[dense merlin]

Ah ty

Don't see it

[sour wadi]

Might need to take out the gpu

[dense merlin]

I have a pcie wifi card

[sour wadi]

I can see that lol

[dense merlin]

Idk how nvme drives work I wasn't sure if they were the same thing lmao

[sour wadi]

Under the gpu for your board

[sour wadi]

What?

[dense merlin]

Nothing

Nvm

Under as in below or behind

[sour wadi]

Below

You'll have to take out gpu

[dense merlin]

Pain

Do I have to take the backplate thing off?

Oh god

I'd have to take the heatsink off to reach the pcie lock

I think

Well I think I see the m.2 slot....

[sour wadi]

What?

[sour wadi]

There should be no heatsink to take off?

[dense merlin]

No I mean the cpu heatsink

To reach the pcie lock

[sour wadi]

It's under the graphics card

[dense merlin]

Yes

[sour wadi]

Take out the gpu and you will see

[dense merlin]

To take the gpu out i havebto get the pcie lock undone

[sour wadi]

Yeah just slide your finger underneath

[dense merlin]

To get the pcie lock undone the heaysink has to come out, since it's blocking me from reaching the lock

Trying that rn

Doesn't seem to be working

[sour wadi]

Do it from the bottom not the top, going from the top is awkward you'd have to spin the whole pc around so the cpu is closest to you

[dense merlin]

Can't go from the bottom, psu is in the way

And cables

I just have to push down on the black part, no?

Or up?

[sour wadi]

Huh? How is the psu in the way lol

Push down on the tab

[dense merlin]

And do these screws need to come out?

I got the pci lock undone

Pcie I should say

[sour wadi]

Yeah undo the screws

[dense merlin]

Screws out, gpu isn't coming out easily

I dont want to break the lock

Nvm got it

Uhh

Pato?

I see, I gotta take that lil screw off

It doesnt wanna come off tho

Nvm

But I dont have the screw that's supposed to go in there idt

Yo @steady talon

Can I take a screw from s different standoff?

[sour wadi]

You should be able to use the screw from the m.2 wifi standoff

[dense merlin]

Yep my friend just figured that out lol

Just gota find a screw driver small enough now lol

[dense merlin]

POG

Pc back on now

[dense merlin]

is it worth installing windows on the 660p or should i just my cs900 as my boot ssd? will there be any real differnece?

[blazing musk]

Windows likes faster random access times. A good nvme can reduce your boot time from 35 to 20 seconds. Granted, that's still really fast so it's up to you either way.

[dense merlin]

Yeah I knew that, was wondering if there'd be anything else that it would affect?

[blazing musk]

Overall system responsiveness but nothing major

[dense merlin]

Ty

[pale anvil]

is sata 2 ssd better than hdd

like for booting up times before it being actually usable lol

[real lava]

yes

but ssds that old?

hmm, i wouldn't get em

[pallid orchid]

is there a reason for sata 2

and not sata 3

or nvme?

[pale anvil]

its because my motherboard doesnt support sata 3 and i have no idea if theres nvme slots on there

[real lava]

Probably limited by mobo

Yep

That's still faster than hdds tbh

Even tho their sequential speed will be capped at 300 mb/s

[pale anvil]

lol

[real lava]

But random speed will be where you'll notice the most

It's still gonna be decently snappy

[pale anvil]

i mean my mobo specs said 3gb second max but i have no idea

[real lava]

it's 3gbps, iirc

so 300 mb/s

[pale anvil]

oh so thats what it means

i mean 400 bucks for a pc with 32gb ram and a decent cpu isnt bad so ill take it

[red jay]

Is 120GB SSD enough only for Windows 10?

Do anyone have any idea about that?🤔

[real lava]

It is

I use 120 gigs ssd myself

[red jay]

Okay

[sour wadi]

It is but don't buy one, a 240gb or 500gb one will be like 5-15$ more most of the time

[red jay]

Yeah it's a low cost for your country, but for our country it's kind of expensive

[sour wadi]

Ahh okay, what i said is usually the case but if you're somewhere outside the eu or NA it could be different yeah

[red jay]

Yeah

I understand what you gonna say👍

[trim cloak]

240gb poo

[sour wadi]

Nah i lived off 240gb ssd for 5ish years

[trim cloak]

i can’t believe you would suffer yourself like that

[sour wadi]

Wasn't suffering, i didn't need more storage

[kind sierra]

240gb is plenty for standard browser and word usage

I ran 250gb for most of my computer engineering undergrad. Never used more than half of it

Even with dual booting I was fine

[sour wadi]

Yeah like i only play a few games so i had like csgo overwatch and minecraft mb installed as well as chrome discord, ms office couple other things

[trim cloak]

but a lil more gets 500gb+🙂

so double capacity with less than double the price😁

[sour wadi]

not 5/6 years ago

[trim cloak]

oh no! i didn’t know i was talking 5 years past tense!

ok but fr, i actually didn’t know you were talking about when you first got it

[sour wadi]

well i hardly used it for 5 years buying it 2 years ago

[kind sierra]

Thing is my laptop came with a 250GB drive, so getting a 500 would have cost something like 40-50 more

[trim cloak]

well i was talking in a sense of buying one, cause that person above wanted to buy one

[red jay]

Okay

[pallid orchid]

Time traveller confirmed?

[sour wadi]

[karmic rock]

Anyone know if the HP ZBook Studio G3 has two m2 spaces?

[noble prairie]

I'm trying to copy my main drive to a new one, but I'm having some trouble. They're both supposed to be 1TB, but the one I want to clone is 953GB and the new one is 931GB. The original drive actually has over 300GB free, but I can't shrink the C partition to make it the same size as the new drive.

[dense merlin]

could someone help my friend with macrium reflect?

its confusing the hell outta me

[minor sun]

What about it..?

[dense merlin]

its saying not enough space when there is

its 350gb to 450gb

nvm

friend figured it out

[blazing musk]

It's not the data size that matters there, it's the partition size

[dense merlin]

yeah i thoguht so

so i had him make 3 partitions

[sour wadi]

Just drag the emptiest partition in last it'll shorten it basically