#storage-devices

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lost willow
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hmm

dusk turtle
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Ram will work but XMP may not stick when you turn it on in the BIOS

lost willow
dusk turtle
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Gray slots

lost willow
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ok

dusk turtle
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should be fine after that

lost willow
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ok

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I'll see

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wait

rare harness
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Not like moving RAM to different slots is hard.

lost willow
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do ssd's

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lose their data when unplugged?

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wait only 1 of my dimms is showing up in BIOS

sour wadi
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No they don't

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Reseat your ram in the same slots then

lost willow
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I did

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ok bothshow

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I can't turn on csm for some reason

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I can't boot withoout csm

dusk turtle
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Why do you need CSM?

lost willow
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the mushkin piolet e I think is a legacy drive

dusk turtle
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Windows 10 should be installed with CSM off and Legacy off for UEFI rather than MBR

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No

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Definitely not

lost willow
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I had to have csm in order to boot

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and xmp would crash my system

dusk turtle
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Probs because your Windows install is MBR instead of UEFI

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Which isn't desirable

lost willow
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ok

dusk turtle
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So

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hmmm

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I guess turn on Legacy mode and CSM if you have to

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XMP also shouldn't crash things

lost willow
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i can't tho

dusk turtle
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WDYM can't

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Like it's grayed out?

lost willow
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yes

pallid orchid
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Switch off secure boot

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Restart

lost willow
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ok

pallid orchid
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Bios

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Csm on

lost willow
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wait

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how do I switch off secure boot?

pallid orchid
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Asus board?

lost willow
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yes

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tuf bios

pallid orchid
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Could you send a pic of the entire boot subscreen

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Like all the options under boot?

lost willow
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ok

pallid orchid
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Whats under secure boot mode

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Like in the drop down

lost willow
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ok

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custom or standard

pallid orchid
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Gimme 5 mins

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Can you tell me whats under os type?

lost willow
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Windows UEFI

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and OTHER OS

dusk turtle
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Have you actually tried booting without changing all of this?

lost willow
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yes

pallid orchid
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Change custom to standard

lost willow
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wait

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ayyyyYYY

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I got it to boot

pallid orchid
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Bruh

lost willow
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I changed the system OS to Windows UEFI

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and enable CSM

pallid orchid
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Ahh nice

lost willow
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for legacy drives

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so it works now

dusk turtle
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Windows UEFI? It should have worked without changing any of this

pallid orchid
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Yep

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Then again its windows

rare harness
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has a suspicion this guy was playing with settings he didn't understand

pallid orchid
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Same

minor sun
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who doesn't play with settings you don't understand

pallid orchid
pallid orchid
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I just remembered what i played around with

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So i can set it back

lost willow
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yeah

dusk turtle
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Reset to Defaults works great for that XD

lost willow
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lol

pallid orchid
dusk turtle
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So don't use it then?

pallid orchid
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Yeah I dont

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Updating bios is always a pain tho

dusk turtle
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Ok

minor sun
pallid orchid
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Just that updating bios is a pain

minor sun
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meh

pallid orchid
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My board also has the option to save 8 profiles

olive wadi
loud estuary
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well I forgot how my raid setup was configured after selling most of my desktop... so I now have five invalidly configured drives with all my data from that computer

frozen bear
frozen bear
dusk turtle
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$213? That's says $149 each

olive wadi
spice edge
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how do I clone all the data from my hdd to ssd?

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I just built a new rig

dusk turtle
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Macrium Reflect

spice edge
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is it all in that or is there anything I need to do first?

dusk turtle
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Run macrium Reflect, full back up to the new drive,

spice edge
dusk turtle
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Yes

spice edge
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is there a download link on that page?

spice edge
weary cliff
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Help, my 2nd ssd isn't showing up

minor sun
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Go to disk management

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what board and what ssd btw?

weary cliff
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western digital and the z490 msi board

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how do i get to disk management

minor sun
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right click

weary cliff
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uh

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its empty

minor sun
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the heck

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how

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what

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try to open it again

weary cliff
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ok

minor sun
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should look something like this

weary cliff
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nope

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still empty

minor sun
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aaaaaa

weary cliff
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well what are the instructions in case it works later or i fix it or something

minor sun
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go do windows debugging ig, lemme grab guide

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General fix for random windows problems

From an admin command prompt or powershell, run:

sfc /scannow

If that doesn't work, try:

dism /online /cleanup-image /checkhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /scanhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

Then, try running sfc again.
Repeat as necessary

weary cliff
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uh

quaint quest
dusk turtle
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250 GB isn't very big and it's speedy for fast boot times. The 2 TB drive is good for games/media storage

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The 11700 is unnecessary for sure

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Not good with a B560 board

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Swap it out with an 11400/11500 to save some money

quaint quest
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So I should keep the 250GB one or should I toss it?

quaint quest
dusk turtle
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No

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11500 has same iGPU

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Game performance will be virtually identical

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Ram speed matters more in this case

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CPU cores =/= iGPU cores

quaint quest
dusk turtle
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Well, it's in stock but being scalped

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11700 just isn't worth it at $369

dusk turtle
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269 for the 11500 isn't a good price either, should be right around $200. You can get an 11600 for $269 if you can't wait and have to get it right now.

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If you can wait for the 11500 to restock, which doesn't take long, go for it at $219

quaint quest
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Okay, thank you!

minor sun
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@dusk turtle more context, they're going for iGP build, and want to do video editting

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that's why 11700 was in there

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and yea, need to get bigger ssd

quaint quest
minor sun
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500gb at least

sour wadi
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250gb drives are a waste to buy, usually you're just paying to have the physical ssd and not for the storage at that point

torpid adder
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500GB and up

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Still probably won't get a 1TB drive personally, too expensive for me peepoSadSip but they're priced reasonably

arctic turret
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Yeah, 500 gigs is the lowest you should get for the money’s worth.

brisk flax
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quest on 500 gb ssd.. i just learn about them over this last month.. ATM i am using a 1tb Hdd that 2 years old for all my games.. i have only sata plugs should i get a 500gb ssd and move my games to it.. i am all new to the ssd

dusk turtle
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I'd recommend putting your OPerating system and a few games on the SSD and the rest on the 1TB HDD to take advantage of the speeds

brisk flax
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ok

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ty for answering my questiojn

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question*

dusk turtle
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YW

torpid adder
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I have a 2TB hard drive in my new to me pc, got it to quiet down with the included drive mounting rubbers

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I want to take this thing home with me and combine hardware with my old PC, it has a better CPU and some SSD/hard drive storage as well

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Idk when that'll be so I might just buy another 500GB WD Blue 3D thinkies

rigid moss
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How difficult is an M.2 drive to install, doesnt seem that bad? Is it as easy as just putting it into the PCIe port?

red jay
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It takes 2 minutes

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So no

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Just could be aids getting the tiny screw started to hold the ssd down if you don’t have a magnetic screw driver

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But no

rigid moss
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Not difficult?

red jay
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No not difficult

rigid moss
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okay cool

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seems very easy and straightforward

red jay
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Unscrew cover
Snap ssd in
Screw ssd foen
Screw on cover

rigid moss
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literally just plug and play and ur good?

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Have one but I have another M.2 slot

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no cover

red jay
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Yes

rigid moss
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even easier then? 🤣

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cool thank you

red jay
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Some boards may need you to put a little booster on the hole ur gonna screw the side of the ssd into

rigid moss
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my HDD is kinda aids, probably gonna get an m.2 + ssd

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the sata connector is barely connected

red jay
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I am building a pc atm, just got a 1tb ssd for everything

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Yea

rigid moss
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ooo nice 😄

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I think I need a bit more space since I am gonna take out the HDD, it is a 2tb

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maybe do a 1tb m.2 and 1/2tb ssd

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not sure yet

red jay
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Wat

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An ssd is an m.2

rigid moss
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well I mean a m.2 ssd and a non m.2 ssd

red jay
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Ah

rigid moss
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sry lol

red jay
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Another thing is some ssds may have a thermal pad thingy and the m.2 cover may have one on there aswell

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So u need to pick between them

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And peel one of the other off

rigid moss
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ahh, I am looking at one that comes with a heatsink is that what youre referring too?

red jay
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My p31 didn’t but some do I think

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Yes

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Heatsink

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Lmao

red jay
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this is a hard drive

blazing musk
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Looks more like an unreliable program, those results make no sense unless it has background tasks or something

red jay
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dont know if thats the case since crystaldiskmark is saying the same thing

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is that bad for the hard drive

blazing musk
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I wouldn't say it's "bad" but you probably have some sort of cache on your system skewing results

red jay
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oh ok

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so is that a fake speed?

blazing musk
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11.2 GB/s read is simply not possible, even for most SSDs

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Probably RAM cache which can be good or bad

red jay
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i see

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why can that be bad

blazing musk
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If the system shuts down before the cache flushes you'll lose data

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Like in a power outage

red jay
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o

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dont want that

blazing musk
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It's usually only whatever data you're working with that gets damaged at least

red jay
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oh ok then it should be fine since i only use it for games and storing videos then right?

blazing musk
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I'm sure the drive is fine unless it's showing other weird syptoms

red jay
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nah i was just checking my drive speeds and i saw that and i was like thats not supposed to happen

blazing musk
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Actually it looks like you set it to the 1 GB test, maybe try the 8GB or something and see if it changes

red jay
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haha yeah thats a little different

blazing musk
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That's much closer to what I'd expect, you probably have an Intel system? Sometimes the default is to have the Rapid Storage on, which is basically a cache like I said.

red jay
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nah i have ryzen

blazing musk
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Then the drive itself might have a cache, I'll see if I can find specs

red jay
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but i think i found the culprit

blazing musk
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Well yeah that seems right lol
I never played with that before

red jay
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so i this using my ram to speed up my drives?

blazing musk
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Yes, up to 1GB can be stored in memory as an accelerated cache

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You can adjust more or less memory allocated too from the look of it

red jay
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i see

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so right now its this

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if i put more ram does it make it faster, not that i will 🤣

blazing musk
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Yeah even a PCIe 4.0 drive tops out around 5-6 GB/s, no way those are real speeds

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It might make it faster, depending on how much memory you have available when you have everything running though

red jay
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yeah those speeds are wack

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the cool thing that i found out that the samsung magician app lets you do is that it basically lets you overclock sata samsung drives like the 860 evo i have in there

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so it makes it run close to m.2 speeds

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probably bad for the lifespan tho

blazing musk
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Only if the controller gets too hot

red jay
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oh cool, i guess its fine then

blazing musk
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Shouldn't get too hot unless you do a lot of reads/writes for an extended time

true heath
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Anyone see LTTs video on SSDs swapping components

sour wadi
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Has been known for a while for the specific drive they did yeah

true heath
minor sun
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Just saying LTT is quite late to the party

blazing musk
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More voices in the outcry against these practices is not a bad thing

verbal quail
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guys and gals what the bang for the buck SSD 2.5" 1tb+ I maybe be using it for some games. Like GTAV, RDR2, COD and others

true heath
minor sun
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first article is 8 months ago

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it's fairly stale news for most people here

true heath
minor sun
true heath
minor sun
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just saying it's a bit old news. The 8 month old article also had testing from servethehome and another end user.

verbal quail
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Thanks @minor sun that a good deal. I brought a while back a Kingston 960BG SSD for the same price.

rustic blaze
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Hello, I'm having some problems with my SSD which is only 237 GB (Boot Drive) while my HDD is 931 GB. I want to know how I can redirect app installations to the HDD so that I don't have to worry about the storage issue on the SSD. I've already gone into windows settings and changed where I want things installed in System Storage settings. I've even gone into the Registry Editor and changed the file ProgramFilePaths to the HDD. Even though I've gone through all of this whenever I install a new app like WinRar it directs it to the AppData folder located in the SSD. I'd like to know if there exist a way to only install software onto the HDD and completely ignore the SSD.

blazing musk
# rustic blaze Hello, I'm having some problems with my SSD which is only 237 GB (Boot Drive) wh...

A lot of installers are poorly programmed and ignore the default paths and assume they know best and target themselves to C:\Program Files or wherever they like.
You can change your AppData path to the hard drive by hard linking, but I don't really recommend this.
There's not a lot we can do about that except manually change the install location whenever something decides to ignore your paths.

small steppeBOT
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Guy-John#1997 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

rustic blaze
blazing musk
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When the program is installing and it asks where should it install to, or sometimes there's an "advanced" option to select install path

rustic blaze
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Ah alright, there really aren't any other alternatives I guess

blazing musk
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Messing with AppData is dangerous, it can cause your user profile to fail to load and you have to make a new user

rustic blaze
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Ultimately the solution best solution would be to get a bigger SSD in order to never have to deal with this right?

blazing musk
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Ideally yes

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I've made do with a 256GB boot drive for a long time but I also have a separate SSD for my games

rustic blaze
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Transfering the boot drive to the HDD isn't a good idea right?

blazing musk
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That will make everything on the computer go slower

rustic blaze
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Ok thanks

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I'm new to this stuff so I appreciate the help

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Thank you for your time, have a good one.

blazing musk
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No problem, you too

tidal flint
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top drives for bulk video/some steam game that dont break the bank? like at least 4 tb. Toshiba X300?

dusk turtle
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Yes

minor sun
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WD blue 4tb was like 60$ on a prime day deal tho

austere saffron
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What's better WD Black or Samsung M.2's?

dusk turtle
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Neither for the money, Hynix P31 Gold for the $130 price range

minor sun
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yas

austere saffron
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Do it perform the same

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Or just about

minor sun
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better

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P31 gold outperforms sn750, 970 evo, 970 evo plus, 980, etc, for real world perf

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heck, outperforms all of them in seq other than evo plus being a bit better at sustained

austere saffron
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ite thanks

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Dam I have to buy it in less than 2 hours

minor sun
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?

austere saffron
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Prime day deal

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Got it

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Less go

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My only storage left is HDD so I need more SSD space. So now I'm chilling

minor sun
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ah

lime jasper
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Are there a good 2tb nvme at or less than $200?

dusk turtle
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No, they're all $210 or more, even the cheap ones.

lime jasper
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Even if that is the case, what is a good recommendation on the cheaper side?

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?

sour wadi
red jay
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Does anyone have an idea of whare I can find an SSD drive reader for 2017-2018 macbook pro?

late minnow
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Is the wd blue hdd good

sour wadi
red jay
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I can not seem to find one. The drive does not seem to fit a sata 2 connection

dusk turtle
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sata 3 backwards compatible

red jay
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Awesome! not sure why apple made this so difficult

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So this should be able to read the 2018 SSD drive?

dusk turtle
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A drive reader like Sata to USB?

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I got this one and it works great

red jay
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awesome, do you know if this worked for a 2018 macbook pro?

dusk turtle
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Mmmm, conecting a drive to a Macbook you mean? Good question

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"Compatible with Windows 98, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10 and Mac OS X.C"

red jay
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Unfortunatly, macbook pro changed there SSD drives a couple of years ago, it is hard to find a reader

dusk turtle
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Wait, is it an NVME drive like this?

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or like this?

red jay
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no it actually looks like this

dusk turtle
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Oh

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Interesting!

red jay
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typical apple

dusk turtle
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What i posted definitely won't read that lol

red jay
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I am not sure where to go, stores are charging more to recover the data then it is worth

dusk turtle
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Yeah, let me do some digging

red jay
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thank you!

dusk turtle
# red jay thank you!

Ok, so after some digging it's a proprietary connector NVME PCI-E drive, of course. 22+34 pins. Bad news, I can't find any adapters that go from that to USB for external use, nor for internal use. 😦

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I can find adapters that let you put a normal M.2 NVME drive in your Macbook tho XD

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still looking

red jay
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I assure this would not work though?

dusk turtle
quasi sorrel
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Does anyone have a scalable NAS solution that's cost effective? (head unit + storage bay)

steel creek
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i need a 1tb ssd for under 50

sour wadi
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no

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not happening my g

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get a hdd or 500gb ssd

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for that price

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mb if you look on hwswap or ebay

quaint patio
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980 pro or sn850?

sour wadi
quaint patio
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adobe suite and gaming

sour wadi
# quaint patio adobe suite and gaming

Okay so if adobe suite you might be doing a lot of consistent writing/reading, 980 pro probs, if it was just gaming i would have said sk hynix p31 because best rand

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But I'd get another opinion on that I'm not familiar with the sn850 specs off the top of my head

dusk turtle
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Still p31.....

sour wadi
quaint patio
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newegg got this p31?

sour wadi
lucid quest
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Good afternoon

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My name is Samuel and I have a question

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I plan to purchase a series of ssd units

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2 Samsung 980 pro 2tb ssd and 2 2tb Sata ssd on Asus rog Crosshair VIII formula x570 motherboard

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And I had the doubt that if I connected the 4 storage devices the PC would not be able to detect them all

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Could someone tell me if I would have a problem connecting all the storage units?

sour wadi
lucid quest
sour wadi
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Also pcie 4 is useless for 99% of people, what use case is it for ?

lucid quest
lucid quest
sour wadi
# lucid quest For gaming

Get a p31 then it's faster an cheaper and you don't need an x570 Crosshair either btw unless you want to oc using ln2

lucid quest
lucid quest
sour wadi
lucid quest
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Ok

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What si in2

sour wadi
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So sk hynix p31 is better and cheaper than 980 pro in most countries

sour wadi
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And x570 crosshair is too expensive unless you are doing an over clock with liquid nitrogen

lucid quest
lucid quest
sour wadi
lucid quest
sour wadi
lucid quest
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Thank you

sour wadi
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Np :)

heavy hamlet
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im not sure if this is the right place for this but is 15 gigs enough for both warzone and fortnite like with updates and stuff like that?

blazing musk
heavy hamlet
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I meant for like with them downloaded and then the 15 gigs for like updates

minor sun
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We can't predict those game's updates

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No one knows how big the next update is

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It can be 20gb it can be 20mb

heavy hamlet
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Yea and for all I know I could like warzone more and then I could delete fortnite but idk I’m very new to warzone so I don’t know

minor sun
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make the choice when you have to :P

heavy hamlet
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Yea

lunar onyx
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sour wadi
sour wadi
sour wadi
# lunar onyx ok thx

But some recommendations that are usually good are sn550 if you have an m.2 slot or mx500 for sata drives and save up the extra bit for 500gb drive 240 is quite small and worth the extra 5-10$(or equivalent) more

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Np :)

sour wadi
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It's usually not too much more, but those drives might be stupidly priced over there, although decent in most regions

pallid orchid
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Also yep sn550 is best bang for tye buck in india

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Its like 4-5k inr

sour wadi
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Hence i summoned you

minor sun
pallid orchid
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Local websites give better deals

minor sun
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Local websites are annoying tho

lunar onyx
lunar onyx
sour wadi
pallid orchid
lunar onyx
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im using msi h310m pro vh plus

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im actually getting the ssd for bootup drive since my hdd is doing absolutely trash

pallid orchid
lunar onyx
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ok

pallid orchid
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Doesnt seem to have an m.2 slot

lunar onyx
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na it doesnt

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u shd hv asked that at first i knew that already lol

sour wadi
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Something like an mx500 if it's an okay price then

sharp folio
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So my dad just got an SSD for his computer because the programs he needs start to slow on the HDD that is currently in it, we want to swap them, HDD for extra stuff and SSD for OS and a few apps, etc. The HDD has Windows it it and we want to out it on the SSD, would just wiping the HDD be the best solution?

sour wadi
lunar onyx
sour wadi
minor sun
sharp folio
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Don't won't to copy everything, though

lunar onyx
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also im sry if that was mean

sour wadi
minor sun
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You can probably keep it plugged in once you clean install windows on the SSD, as long as the boot order is correct

lunar onyx
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ok lemme check em thx for the help

sour wadi
pallid orchid
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Back to not using PC because TM5!

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Bye

sour wadi
sharp folio
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That's what I was thinking, just wanted to be sure

sour wadi
sharp folio
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How would you wipe the HD with Windows?

sour wadi
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Format drive after installing on the ssd

sharp folio
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Oh

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Okay

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Thanks

sour wadi
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Just copy any important info over first lol

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Np

sharp folio
sour wadi
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👍

sharp folio
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And the other, "important" files

pallid orchid
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Oh btw @lunar onyx forgot to mention you might get better deals for the ssd on mdcomputers or primeabgb if you wanna check those

lunar onyx
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ight i will check em out rn thx

pallid orchid
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YW

onyx juniper
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can someone hop on vc and help me with my ssd

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pls

sour wadi
onyx juniper
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i alr have it its just that there a problom with it

sour wadi
onyx juniper
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so I got a new ssd today and I wanted to transfer the data,but now I justhave 2 ssds with the same data

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and I cant figure out how to erase the data on the slower ssd

sour wadi
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so you want to wipe the old deive?

onyx juniper
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ya

sour wadi
onyx juniper
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can you hop on vc?

sour wadi
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not atm

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download crystal disk info btw it will help identify which is which

onyx juniper
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i have an intel m.2(the one i want to wipe) and the new one is samsung 980 evo

sour wadi
onyx juniper
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i knoww which is which tho

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the intel one has less storage

sour wadi
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ohh then wipe the drive with less storage

onyx juniper
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im trying

sour wadi
onyx juniper
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c is samller(the intel one)

sour wadi
onyx juniper
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ok i need to restart i wont be able to type, give me a min

sour wadi
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Np

onyx juniper
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@sour wadi i made it the 980 evo

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???

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the c is now the 980 evo

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now what to do @sour wadi

sour wadi
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jeez gimme a sec

onyx juniper
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ok

sour wadi
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open up file explorer

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right click drive d (old intel drive) then click format

onyx juniper
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will i still be able to use the intel drive

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because then ill have 500 more gb

sour wadi
#

format just wipes it

onyx juniper
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should i press start or should i change a setting in it

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thanks so much it worked @sour wadi

sour wadi
#

just go ahead and format should be fine

onyx juniper
#

i did

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so now when i max out the storage on the 980 evo the rest of my downloads will go to the intel?

sour wadi
#

ehhh no youll have to make it manually go to the other drive afaik

onyx juniper
#

what is afaik

sour wadi
olive wadi
minor sun
#

It's just called 980

sour wadi
olive wadi
trim cloak
#

980 evo pretty poggy

rigid moss
#

whats the program that can copy data from one drive to another?

#

got a 6tb hdd and wanna transfer all my data from the 2tb

sour wadi
#

Iirc

rigid moss
#

is that the fastest way? LOL seems like that would take quite a bit of time

sour wadi
#

Ye

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Hdds are just slow

rigid moss
#

damn that is gonna be a fun process lol

sour wadi
#

Just do it and walk away or do something else lol

rigid moss
#

ye probably the best way XD

steady talon
#

Are the WD Blue HDDs any good?

#

I know the Toshiba X300 are really good but I’m looking for better budget options for a friend

pallid orchid
#

WD blue in general is a great lineup

#

Except for that m.2 sata ssd

oak vapor
#

How is a seagate firecuda 520 1tb?

sour wadi
minor sun
#

uh, pretty sure there's only a 128mb+ version

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From Toshiba:

sour wadi
#

Meant to reply to message just above mr1111

minor sun
#

pretty sure there's no 128mb version then, from WD:

sour wadi
minor sun
#

cmr is nice yes

sour wadi
#

Grand then :)

#

Was right about the nice one anyway lol

minor sun
#

ya

daring swan
#

What are some recommended hard drives? Pretty sure I have a Seagate Barracuda 4TB and I want something faster as my main drive

dusk turtle
#

1 TB SSD

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Like a Crucial MX500 or something

regal kraken
daring swan
#

I can give up some capacity, although I need about 2-3 TB

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Steam games really do take up a lot of space, my god

regal kraken
#

Can you make do with 2TB?

daring swan
#

Yeah that'll be good

regal kraken
#

Do you know if your motherboard has NVMe slots?

daring swan
#

No, I don't. I'll check

regal kraken
#

What board is it?

daring swan
#

I'm not sure since my computer is a prebuilt

regal kraken
#

What make and model?

daring swan
#

Alienware Aurora R7 basic, made by Dell (I think, they own Alienware)

regal kraken
#

Yes, it appears to have at least one m.2 NVMe.

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What's your budget for hard drives?

daring swan
#

$150

regal kraken
#

Egads.

#

There's no guarantee you can get a faster drive that is at least 2TB in size for that price

daring swan
#

I forgot that I got some extra money today, I can spend $250

regal kraken
regal kraken
#

I thought Mushkin lost its luster years ago. Back in 2016 I had some of their RAM chips, but I didn't hear much about them in recent years.

rigid moss
#

If I wanted to buy more sata power cables how would I go about doing that

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since you cant mix psu cables around

dusk turtle
#

Your PSU doesn't have enough? Should have 5-6 on a string and 1-2 strings for a total of 10-12 ports?

rigid moss
#

uhh I misplaced the extra cables I think

dusk turtle
#

Ah

rigid moss
#

Lemme see when I open my case lol I can’t remember. Just in case I don’t have the extra whats that next step

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Look for my psu and try and find the cable that goes with it or what lol

dusk turtle
#

Yeah, get the model number and find cables for it

#

Like, Corsair RMx

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EVGA BQ

#

etc

sharp folio
sharp folio
#

Okay

#

How do you wipe a drive with Windows?

sour wadi
sharp folio
#

Oh

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Thanks for the help

sour wadi
#

Np

kind sierra
dusk turtle
#

DRAMless Samsung SSD

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with HMB

kind sierra
#

Interesting

dusk turtle
#

Pretty sure the SN550 RN4K is better

kind sierra
#

Tabbed under budget

dusk turtle
#

But I'd have to check

verbal snow
#

Is there a cheap 2tb hdd that would be decent for storing a few games on thats around 40-60usd?

#

Trying to find one for a friend and he has a small budget

dusk turtle
#

Barracuda 2tb should be about 50

dense merlin
#

my seagate external drive randomly stopped working for a moment, i scanned it with windows and nothing was wrong, it immediately started working fine

#

is that a sign its dying?

blazing musk
# dense merlin is that a sign its dying?

It could be, but it could also be part of the intermittent USB connection issues found on AMD platforms. A beta bios update might be out for your board that fixes that. If you're on Intel that's obviously not the problem.
You can check drive health using crystal disk info. https://crystalmark.info/redirect.php?product=CrystalDiskInfoInstaller

dense merlin
#

I'll check, thanks

sour wadi
bitter tree
#

For nas

sour wadi
#

Ahh I'm not sure about nas specific drives but don't see why a x300 wouldn't be just as good

bitter tree
#

Yeah

supple pumice
#

hello all.

#

Need of assistance. I built a PC back in 2015 with two 2.5GB 120Gb ssd internal disk drives. I want to get new 1-2TB SSD's. Any recommendations? I just need to have more capacity for win10 upgrade and updates.

minor sun
#

N300 price recently hasn't been great but n300 is basically the nas varient of x300

rigid moss
#

@sour wadi

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not too bad

sour wadi
#

yeah its ntb

true heath
#

If you were to add a drive to your pc without a specific use in mind, just for additional overhead. Would you go SSD or HDD? I have a couple drives installed already, the one I see filling up is my 1tb crucial P5 I use for steam. Was looking at adding a crucial mx500 1-2tb, but the WD Black HDD at 4tb is staring at me from the other corner of the room 😂

#

Hindsight, I already have a HDD installed for media storage. I should just get an additional SSD… I think I made up my mind thinking out loud lol.

sour wadi
true heath
#

Like a light bulb clicked, why would I buy more hdd I got a seagate 4tb when they were on sale for like $70. If gaming overflow is my main concern currently SSD makes more sense. Sometimes you have to think out loud before your brain makes any sense 😂

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If money wasn’t an issue I’d upgrade my P5 to a 2tb nvme but those get pretty expensive

sour wadi
#

ehh i mean if you dont mind waiting a sec for your games i would do hdd

#

also p5 is spensive

#

do you not have 2 m.2 slots on the mobo btw?

true heath
#

I have both occupied, wd black sn750 for a boot drive. Try to keep games off that one as I also record to it

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Use the 4tb seagate to store the recordings later after clipping and editing what not. At least that’s the plan. I’m still learning

sour wadi
#

fair enough lol

true heath
# sour wadi fair enough lol

I also like to be organized. I’m not sure if you’ve noticed or not, but Windows OS filing isn’t what I’d call “organized”… 😂

sour wadi
#

Lol

true heath
#

Both of my nvme drives (1tb each) the sn750 and the P5 I only paid around $100 for. Gotta get that sale shopping my man 🤪

sour wadi
#

Ohh nice

untold grove
#

my old home

rapid dagger
#

When using the windows back up feature does it require an empty drive or would any hard drive work

blazing musk
#

It prefers an empty drive but you can use one that isn't

ashen aurora
fast pier
#

HEY I NEED HELP PLS

pallid orchid
nimble robin
#

He’s getting help in another channel

pallid orchid
#

i asked him the same question there as well

#

lol

serene arrow
#

Hi, I wanted to know if it was worth buying a wd easystore 14 tb external hard drive. I'm using it to save my video recordings and downloads since I'm running out of storage space.

pallid orchid
serene arrow
#

I have a external 4tb hard drive, it has some of my recordings and downloads. I don't travel that much but I use it to record gameplay, store downloads and projects. Thank you for responding back

tidal flint
#

oh i have been told that the pilot - e is a great ssd, but others tell me that sn550 is better (both 1tb compacity). i just kinda wanna find out which NVME ssd i should purchse

sour wadi
#

Sn550 better rand yee

true heath
#

SN750 only $10 more on Newegg compared to the sn550

sour wadi
true heath
#

That’s interesting 🤔 the more you know

true heath
# sour wadi

What benchmark does Toms hardware use? Only curious, one of those “on paper” vs actual use things…

sour wadi
true heath
#

There’s so many variables to benchmarks and real world use lol. That’s the first I’ve seen that type of disparity of what’s presumably a lower tier product. That’s pretty awesome though if real world performance is that much better

sour wadi
true heath
#

Well that was an example sorry. I have heard that before. Just going down the top google links that seems to be the trend though 🤷‍♂️

#

It’s just one of those things. I have a 750 and I was looking at 550 also and every thing I pulled for reference while shopping reflected the opposite of toms results. I’ve had good WD drives in the past so that’s why they were the two on my radar when I built my pc last winter

true heath
#

I’ve been learning a lot over the last 6 months ish. Only recently jumped into the SSD world

sour wadi
true heath
#

Where as my choice in 2.5” SSD was solely based on j2c recommendation crucial mx500 and not any other research and hey that choice turned out for the better 😂😂😂 just can’t win sometimes.

sour wadi
sour wadi
true heath
# sour wadi Mx500 would be my and most other peoples go to 2.5" ssd yeah it's pretty nice

Funny how that works, put time into researching one product that ends up superior on paper but inferior in practice. Meanwhile just going off the random suggestion of a tech tuber ends up being a good choice 😂 woe is me… all good in the end. My brain does want to know why. Natural curiosity in me. Is it an optimization issue? Is the “faster” drive thermal throttling?

sour wadi
sour wadi
untold grove
#

yeah but also iirc mx500 hasnt been updated since like 2017 and has changed nand and controllers several times

nimble robin
#

I generally don’t recommend a mx500

minor sun
#

it's 96L sm2259 now it seems

#

instead of the old 64L w sm2258

untold grove
#

yeah

#

micron ssds cringe anyways imo

#

literally just spend like $5 more and get samsung since they are the only good ssd maker that cares about sata at all

#

no one else has released anything sata since like 2018-19

#

870 evo is pog and uses good nand

minor sun
#

870evo is pog

#

but p sure there's some micron 128L nand out there somewhere now

#

wait

#

there's micron 176L nand now

untold grove
#

yes but it's not going into any consumer sata ssds keeeek

#

the only people doing any sata stuff are the no name dramless garbage drives, samsung's shockingly good sata ssds, and then the weird ppl like team making garbage 16tb consumer sata drives

#

which are fun but like

minor sun
#

micron 3400 is a proof of concept for now >:P

untold grove
#

ehh

#

micron is good at making enterprise drives

nimble robin
#

What’s the deal with that Exadrive thing

untold grove
#

density is cool

#

i considered getting one actually keeeek

#

but its so slow that it negates any real world use case for us

#

right now sweet spot is samsung 2.5 inch pcie 4 drives

#

let me find model number

minor sun
#

hm

untold grove
#

we have some 15tb micron drives

#

MZWLJ15THALA-00007

#

wait oops those are the samsung part numbers

minor sun
#

oh fun one

untold grove
#

ye we have a lot of 8tb of those drives

#

lemme find the micron ones

nimble robin
untold grove
#

or not of those drives but a lot of samsung pcie 4

minor sun
untold grove
#

they're just 2.5 inch drives

minor sun
#

nvme backplane?

untold grove
#

ye

#

we use the pm983 for the majority of our servers and the performance ones use the pm1735

#

and the thiccies use the pm1733

untold grove
#

where the drives go in

#

they connect to a backplane

minor sun
#

Oh it's u.2

untold grove
#

ye

#

but smaller

minor sun
#

that makes more sense

untold grove
#

like exact same size as a normal 870 evo

#

its just nvme now keeeek

#

pm983 god tier ssd tho

minor sun
#

nice cache drives?

untold grove
#

heres some pics (not mine)

minor sun
#

mmm

untold grove
#

and bench

minor sun
#

writes seem a bit smol?

untold grove
#

yes but these are never single drive

minor sun
#

ah

untold grove
#

like most of our deploys are 2 drives raid 0

#

our larger ones are 24 drives raid 10

minor sun
#

cache drives don't really care about drive failures?

untold grove
#

these arent cache drives

#

but these drives also basically dont fail

#

lol

minor sun
#

what do you use them for then?

untold grove
#

just os drives

minor sun
#

raid 0 os drives? huh

untold grove
#

the 15tb ones have 21pbw rated indurance

#

ye if a server goes down we just redeploy

minor sun
#

damn

untold grove
#

if smart gets low we hot migrate

#

u should get some pm983 for yourself keeeek

#

i found some 1tb ones for $100 a drive

minor sun
#

need u.2 converters tho prob

untold grove
#

yeah

#

but is worth

#

paying basically budget nvme pricing for enterprise drive

#

no brainer

minor sun
#

hmm

untold grove
#

like probs best drive it compares to is mp34 price wise

#

and that drive is like

#

using nand they scraped off the factory floor

minor sun
#

mmm

#

pilot e tho

#

thats got micron 96L

untold grove
#

pm983 has samsungs best nand keeeek

minor sun
#

:p

untold grove
#

its a good drive

#

im buying 20 or so for my personal servers soon

#

need 20tb nvme drool_FB

minor sun
#

20x20tb

#

well uh

#

just saw this video pop up
https://youtu.be/29Nh3p6779E

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untold grove
#

rip 2m

minor sun
#

hm

untold grove
#

i think the new ssd tech is interesting

#

looking forward to seeing what actual perf will be like

minor sun
#

mm

untold grove
#

but a lot of our machines are coffee lake still lol

#

or whatever 8th gen i7 was

#

we have hundreds of servers running the xeon version of the i7 8700

true heath
#

I’m seeing more like $25-30+ price difference between Samsung evo and mx500 🤷‍♂️

#

At 1tb

torpid adder
#

Samsong what evo

#

860 870

untold grove
#

id pay an extra $20 for samsung tbh

minor sun
#

lili sammy shill things

untold grove
#

i mean i wouldnt recommend a sata ssd period

#

but if ur gonna get one it might as well be good

#

samsung literally only company that cares at all abt sata

minor sun
torpid adder
#

Don't think my board has any bios updates to support any m.2

untold grove
#

sata basically only good for laptop upgrades

minor sun
#

What if they can't get an expansion card

untold grove
minor sun
#

Say they have a sound card, wifi card, and a Ethernet card already

untold grove
#

which basically every oem pc has

#

if they have a sound card and an ethernet card then they give up one of the two

minor sun
#

:p

untold grove
#

who isnt using onboard ethernet tho

minor sun
#

Dunno tbh

untold grove
#

i mean to be fair

#

i dont

torpid adder
#

775 board?

minor sun
#

What if they were running sli with sound card and wifi card

torpid adder
#

Gigabit Ethernet has been around for a while

untold grove
#

so sandy and up

torpid adder
#

Is that 2nd gen core

untold grove
#

yes

torpid adder
#

Ah

untold grove
#

if ur running below that then imo your priority should be upgrading the rest of the system

torpid adder
#

I don't think that's the case kekw

minor sun
#

What if it's a retro gaming pc

untold grove
#

since sata ssds are actually too fast and can crash the pc

minor sun
#

They want the authentic experience

untold grove
torpid adder
#

I was looking at gah97md3h and it had a bios update that enabled support for m.2 drives

minor sun
#

Lol

untold grove
#

hotswappable cf cards too good

minor sun
#

Heh

torpid adder
#

It would be nice if my board didn't have PCI slots in the middle

#

I have a wifi card in the bottom slot and my GPU in the top slot, middle two are pci

untold grove
#

but yeah i feel like saying "just get sata" is takine the easy way out most of the time

#

a lot more fun to add in nvme

#

hell thats what my media server is doing rn

#

i have uhhh

#

4x10gbit card and nvme expansion card and raid controller and a 1050ti

#

so im close to using everything lol

minor sun
#

...

untold grove
#

rip to that ssd lol im getting worried

torpid adder
#

Gaming

untold grove
#

wow this drive is a speedster

#

i didnt think it would be as fast as it is

#

LMAO THE WRITE

#

nvm

#

reads lookin fine tho

torpid adder
#

As long as it can read thinkies

untold grove
#

this is a weird bench

torpid adder
#

Literacy rates among ssds are trending up bbnohappy

minor sun
#

Mm

untold grove
#

@minor sun hlep

minor sun
#

Interesting writes

untold grove
#

ikr

minor sun
#

Looks like my drive

torpid adder
#

Damn

untold grove
#

running again

untold grove
torpid adder
#

Neat

untold grove
#

idk if this is expected

torpid adder
#

I got an HP aio machine that has a 240gb sandisk

#

SATA tho

untold grove
#

yea sandisk makes alrite stuff

#

@minor sun do u know who uses who

#

like does wd use sandisk nand or does sandisk use wd nand

minor sun
#

Not sure

untold grove
#

im 90% sure wd just uses sandisk stuff or at least bought their engineering team

torpid adder
#

I don't think it's a very impressive drive

untold grove
#

since i have some sandisk accelerators from 2008

torpid adder
#

Yea I believe it's WD that uses SanDisk nand

#

I was wondering if I should use the drive out of the HP for my OS on the computer I built recently for now and then just put a laptop hard drive in its place but the hp is a pretty slow computer, it should have as little impedance as possible to run okay

torpid adder
#

I might tbh

#

I have some cash money now to do stuff with

#

I want to get a Quadro 600 or k620 or something like that to put in my grandma's old Phenom II 955 machine

untold grove
#

lmao noo

torpid adder
#

Xd

#

I found a local listing that has tons of 600s in a box lol

#

10 bucks each

blazing musk
#

At least they have displayport, that wouldn't be bad for just having something to output video at $10

torpid adder
#

The machine's life from here on out would probably be spent on playing old games

blazing musk
#

Not too old tbh, it supports DX11 natively

upper quiver
#

welcome back

plush willow
#

Any suggestions for budget or low priced ssds? Preferably 500gb

sour wadi
untold grove
olive wadi
#

how many ssd guides do i have to make to get techie

#

idk i own an ipad mini

#

that alone should be enough

plush willow
#

If I can find the 970 evo plus for $100 cad, and the sn550 for $75 cad, should I pay the extra 25 for faster speeds? I’m mainly wanting it for faster loading times and transferring of files

#

Nothing heavy

untold grove
minor sun
#

evo plus isn't really faster than sn550 for most people

pure canopy
#

anybody super familiar with cloning ssds ?

vital jay
#

use macruim reflect

vital jay
# pure canopy anybody super familiar with cloning ssds ?

Learning how to install an SSD without starting from scratch means you can get your PC back up and running again as though nothing has happened. Except everything will be just that little bit quicker! Switching from a laggardly hard drive to a modern SSD will make a huge difference to the responsiveness and performance of your gaming PC. But sta...

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pure canopy
#

i've done a few clones before, but this time has me stumped lol

#

i'm trying to use acronis because i've used it before, and i'm cloning at m.2 to another m.2, but the process just stops after i choose my destination drive

vital jay
#

try macrium

pure canopy
#

ill give it a shot tonight ! Thanks

vital jay
#

np

#

which drive should i get? the 980 or the 970 evo plus? do they both have the qlc cache?

vital jay
#

not at staples

#

i have a 200$ gift card 4 staples

pallid orchid
#

what all is available there

vital jay
#

?

pallid orchid
#

SN850?

small steppeBOT
#
AWESOMEka001#4343 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

pallid orchid
#

sata ssd?

vital jay
#

no filter for nvmew

#

or m.2

pallid orchid
vital jay
#

yes but the problem is that there are sata ssds too

pallid orchid
#

also

#

lol

vital jay
#

but some drives are sata

#

that are m.2 form factor

pallid orchid
#

do you not see the pcie box

#

lmao

vital jay
#

but some drives go away

pallid orchid
vital jay
#

some are sata m.2

pallid orchid
#

m.2 is a form factor

vital jay
#

oh

#

oops

pallid orchid
#

do you want an nvme drive or a sata drive

vital jay
#

nvme

untold grove
vital jay
#

BEANS

pallid orchid
#

I wouldnt really buy any one of the drives on staples

vital jay
#

bottom line what should i get 970 evo plus or 980

pallid orchid
#

way too over priced

untold grove
#

have people here stopped crushing on the mp34

pallid orchid
vital jay
#

ok

#

thx

pallid orchid
untold grove
#

has decently fat tbw for a consumer drive

pallid orchid
#

p31 gold best

vital jay
#

does the efvo plus have a cache?

pallid orchid
#

it does have dram

vital jay
#

ok

#

so that mekes it faster?

pallid orchid
#

but cache isnt indicative of speed tbh

#

the sn550 is dramless

vital jay
#

just nice to have

pallid orchid
#

still outperforms many other drives

vital jay
#

thank you for you help

untold grove
sour wadi
untold grove
#

no its just endurance

#

doesnt matter how quick the drive is if it dies 3x faster

sour wadi
#

Or was that just an example lol

untold grove
#

close to it

#

p31 gold 750tbw and mp34 1.7pbw

sour wadi
#

Interesting

minor sun
#

:P

untold grove
#

but it's rated to that

#

so you can just get it swapped

minor sun
#

lol

untold grove
#

ez zfs write cache

slow marsh
#

Does allocation matter on exfat, or does having the wrong allocation break anything?

#

Looking to store 30gb files on a drive, should I set allocation size to 32kb or leave it at default?

#

The correct allocation size makes transferring quicker, right?

untold grove
#

just leave it

#

not rly a big enough deal to mess with

blissful sierra
#

555 bad sectors....cause for concern or no

minor sun
#

um, looks like the drive is nearly completely dead?

blissful sierra
minor sun
#

Predicting life span is pretty wacky, but they won't lie about smart data

blissful sierra
#

reallocated sector count is 555 and and current pending sector count is 1038

minor sun
untold grove
minor sun
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my drive

untold grove
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ur drive has brain damage

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im p sure ur smart is just corrupted

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what does smartctl say

minor sun
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Dunno, uninstalled hd sentinel because open on startup is stoopid

flint temple
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So been getting disk errors on my old OCZ SSD. Just got a WD SN550 that i got in today. Was using the cloning software (the OCZ is my C: drive) and it's stuck at disk cloning process " Estimated Time left: Less than 1 minute"

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Been at this spot for like 20 minutes and i'm suspecting it's because of ya know, the reason why i'm replacing the drive. Disk error. What to do?

untold grove
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Wow ocz

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That's a name I haven't heard in a long time

dense merlin
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ive got a 2tb external drive thats starting to have issues so im looking to buy an internal hdd 2tb, any reccomendations? was thinking seagate barracuda

dense merlin
torpid adder
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I'm personally thinking a WD Blue hard drive would be a nice option

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Not looking to buy any hard drives for now though, I got a 2TB HGST out of an eBay computer and a 1TB barracuda from my own pc

untold grove
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and 2tb is kinda not best deal rn

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if you can, get a 4tb hdd

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can get toshiba x300 which is great perf and reliability

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with bonus of 4tb drives being more resilient most of the time