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olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:50 AM

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have a nice day

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:50 AM

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now who was saying that nvme is a storage format

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:50 AM

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vintageracer 😳

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:50 AM

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we're gonna have to go and tell him hes right

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HECK

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:50 AM

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it's like fat32 bro

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or ntfs

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or exfat

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nvme bro

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new very manly extensions

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:51 AM

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waitf wtf does this even mean

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:51 AM

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wait

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is he saying hes going to go learn more

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or is he mocking me

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and telling me to go learn more

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:51 AM

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i think the latter

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:51 AM

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whats ladders have to do with computers

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is it because of 3d nand

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:51 AM

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idunno

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probably

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:51 AM

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because its vertical and kind of looks like a ladder

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:51 AM

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its stacked

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:52 AM

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stacked with isolation layers?

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??????

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nand!?

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:52 AM

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NANI??

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:52 AM

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NOR

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NAND

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metal gear?!

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:52 AM

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XNOR??

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:52 AM

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THREE D CROSS POINT1?

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:52 AM

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yo when is mark cerny gonna invent the XNOR ssd

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unlucky

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 AM

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olive wadi THREE D CROSS POINT1?

wait dude i just realized

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 AM

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3dxpoint i sleep

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 AM

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sk hynix bought intel nand biz right

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and sk hynix has 4d nand

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 AM

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2dxpoint

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bro

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 AM

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and intel only had 3d xpoint

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 AM

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its not actually 4d

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 AM

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BRO HOLY

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BRO

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 AM

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i explained this t-

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 AM

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4D XPOINT

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 AM

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4dxpoint1?

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 AM

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BROOO

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 AM

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!!?!?!!?

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 AM

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????

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 AM

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????/

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profit?

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 AM

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mr. tallis will be pooping his panties when he sees this

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i guarantee u

upper quiver Feb 2, 2021, 1:54 AM

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ill bet your DMs look nearly identical to whats happening here

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:54 AM

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is it just 3dxpoint but with the peripheral circuitry moved under the block?

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@upper quiver check dms

upper quiver Feb 2, 2021, 1:55 AM

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i have dms that look like that as well

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:55 AM

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frosty orbit mr. tallis will be pooping his panties when he sees this

when will sean webster change his name back to turbotroll3000

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or rather

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ireviewssds4urmum

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also

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who is mr tallis

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:57 AM

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you dont know mr tallis?

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im never speaking to u again

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huge disappointment

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mr. lal shimpi will hear about this

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:58 AM

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no im not a furry like you

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:58 AM

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im calling tim apple right now

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:58 AM

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tim apple

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:58 AM

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RIGHT NOW

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:58 AM

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right

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@frosty orbit visible confusion

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they always say

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put under the cell

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this looks like more than one cell

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minor sun Feb 2, 2021, 1:58 AM

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what the heck is going on here

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:59 AM

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rbo its CTF based ssd tech bro

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:59 AM

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yeah rbo

minor sun Feb 2, 2021, 1:59 AM

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what

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:59 AM

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upper quiver ill bet your DMs look nearly identical to whats happening here

our dms recently have been surprisingly on topic and educational

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even surprised me

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aint that right windshield wiper

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:59 AM

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puc technology

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:59 AM

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yeah

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 1:59 AM

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PERIPHERAL UNDER CELL

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but

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that's more than a cell

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i dont get it

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thats like

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a few cells

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 1:59 AM

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u know how i make that joke about ssds as hockey pucls

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now u can use ur ssd as a hockey puc bro

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:00 AM

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does the peripheral cirtcuitry have source line

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?!?/!/!?!1

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source line?????

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:00 AM

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bro

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Good

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L O W E R

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:00 AM

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aegis

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frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:00 AM

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no dude i just got it

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:00 AM

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is the peripheral circuitry moved under each cell

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is that what this is saying

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or is it referring to something more macro

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as a cell

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:00 AM

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they put the heatsink on top of the vrm instead of next to it

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thats smart

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:01 AM

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smart?

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SMART?

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:01 AM

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SORRY

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i meant samrt

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not smart

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please forgive me 🥺

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:01 AM

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:)

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aegis

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real crap tho

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:01 AM

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PLEASE

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:01 AM

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do they actually mean thats under separate cells

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or is it just like

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:01 AM

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anything but 20b/1K BCH

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:01 AM

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a column of cells

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:01 AM

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FATHER NO

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:01 AM

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or a stack

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whatever you call it

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:01 AM

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its supposed to be cells

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:01 AM

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frosty orbit anything but 20b/1K BCH

bro the sandforce sf2000 uses 55 bit bch

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so

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:01 AM

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they just say "cell" for generic

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:01 AM

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ah

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gotchya

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:01 AM

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real talk tho poopity

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im working on my controller comp

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:02 AM

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controller cope?

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you're working on your in house ssd controller?

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:02 AM

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compilation

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:02 AM

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toshiba wont get back to me about ordering uh

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:02 AM

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you nincompoopity

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:02 AM

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96 layer flash

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for my own ssd

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:02 AM

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stop trying to order TC58NC1201GSTs

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i already told you they taste bad

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SM2258 is the only good tasting controller

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:02 AM

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so it cant be nand gate anymore

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@frosty orbit yo aegis they arent using floating gates anymore

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frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:03 AM

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international wear leveling adds so much flavor

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:03 AM

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olive wadi <@!303531780571660289> yo aegis they arent using floating gates anymore

yooo !!!

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:03 AM

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no more nand

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gate is gone

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wait

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aegis

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:04 AM

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pogger

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what

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:04 AM

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does 3d nand forego fgmos and use ctf

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:04 AM

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can use either

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:04 AM

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hmmm

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what's like

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more common

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now

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also does ctf work like the same

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:04 AM

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ctf

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:04 AM

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because it looks like it does

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:05 AM

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ctf is still the same concept

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still uses FGMOS

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but in a different arrangement

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:05 AM

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looks the same 2 me

📎 Fig_1_-_MirrorBit.png

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:05 AM

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its how you arrange the transistors

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and how you share FG/CG silicon

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:05 AM

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frosty orbit its how you arrange the transistors

hmmmmmmmmmm

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:05 AM

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no

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this is not deviating from nand

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you silly goose

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:06 AM

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why are electrons coming in from the drain

📎 Fig_2_-_Hot_Electron_Programming.png

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:06 AM

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😳

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:06 AM

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THAT WORD LINE IS PULLED HIGH

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frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:06 AM

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OH GOD OH FUC

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:06 AM

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frosty orbit 😳

real poop thogh

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:06 AM

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my bad

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i mean

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:06 AM

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aight

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so

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:06 AM

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OH GOD OH PuC

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:06 AM

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like

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when we charge charge trapping layer

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or

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"floating gate"

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right

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:06 AM

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yeah bro

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bro

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:06 AM

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do electron not come from the source

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bro

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or it come from the drain

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:06 AM

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brooo

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:07 AM

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because like

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drain goes towards the ground no?

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:07 AM

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it do be like that the way that it do in the stuff with the things bro

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:07 AM

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bro so like it do come from the drain or the source bro

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:07 AM

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that it do

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:07 AM

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what

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which one

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:07 AM

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yes

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:07 AM

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so both

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ok but wher do the electron come from if you are the drain

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like

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you just got ground

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bro aegis its got the capped control gate style bro

📎 Fig_5_-_Capped_Cells.png

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:08 AM

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brooooooo

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btw just fyi

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any time you look at FGMOS transistor diagrams in isolation

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they often do not use the same voltages/configs/physical shapes/terminals that NAND does

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:09 AM

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frosty orbit they often do not use the same voltages/configs/physical shapes/terminals that N...

makes sense bro

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:09 AM

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its good for understanding the concept of FGMOS though

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:09 AM

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bro

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:10 AM

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and i think u have learned enough of the basic concept

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the rest is whatever

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:10 AM

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funny cylinders???

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frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:10 AM

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the specifics dont matter that much

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the rest is iteration

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yeah thats how modern nand looks

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:10 AM

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looks like funny cylinders

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:10 AM

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mhm

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funny rocket popsicles

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hehehoho

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:10 AM

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is one of those funny popsicles a page

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:10 AM

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no sir

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one of the WLs is a page

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:11 AM

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whoa

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a word line is a page

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:11 AM

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except they made the WLs planar for some reason

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wait no

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im dumb

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:11 AM

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brainlet

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frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:11 AM

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sometimes in diagrams they'll have BLs as horizontal and WL as vertical and vice versa

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yeah thats how modern nand looks

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and in fact that pyramid structure is atually macro enough that u can see it if you open a pakage

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my fingers are so cold that im missing keystrokes on these navies man

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:12 AM

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real poop

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show picture of pyramid pls

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:12 AM

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ok

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:12 AM

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aegis see look

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it has memory holes

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so it drops its memories in holes

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and then picks them up alater when it needs them

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:12 AM

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dude thats why 3d xpoint is smart

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its like that one movie holes

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where they gotta dig holes

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and then guy eats onions

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:13 AM

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frosty orbit

i dont see pyramid

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@frosty orbit is that a page

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frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:13 AM

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kinda bad picture

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:13 AM

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with the circle

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that line going ertically

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:13 AM

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ill take a broken ssd and get rid of the outer package or smth

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:13 AM

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is that a page

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:14 AM

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hold on lemme open the big version

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:14 AM

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i think this is a page

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dude its bit addressible i swear

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:14 AM

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page??

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brother this is 3d xpoint

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wait

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im stupid

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im actually stupid

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hahahaha

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:15 AM

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frosty orbit brother this is 3d xpoint

aegis gets nand flash mixed up with 3dxpoint

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:16 AM

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ive been looking at too many diagrams man

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i gotta yeet myself

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:16 AM

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aegis: 3dxpoint is not nand

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also aegis: that is 3dxpoint

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aegis do you have a good diagram of 3dxpoint

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:16 AM

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sry im actually gonna go yeet myself

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brb

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:16 AM

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that isnt just intels marketting

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:17 AM

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nopers

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there are some TEM/SEM images in the wild

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:18 AM

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frosty orbit there are some TEM/SEM images in the wild

where tho

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:18 AM

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they're on techinsights

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gotta pay or look for PR

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:19 AM

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😱

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:19 AM

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btw are u gonna be on gta

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i think me and cloud and some dude from bapo are on

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:19 AM

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frosty orbit btw are u gonna be on gta

no i started drinking tonight and now im really tired

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:19 AM

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lol

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:19 AM

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real

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:19 AM

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get some sleep wiper man

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:19 AM

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i found the nand

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frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:19 AM

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tomorrow i will inject more 12v ocp and nand and op amps into your brain

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:20 AM

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REAL!?

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frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:21 AM

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totally wacky and quirky my dude

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btw you can see BL/WL there

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those wavy things are the WL wrapping around FG

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:24 AM

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frosty orbit those wavy things are the WL wrapping around FG

why would the WL wrap around the FG my dude

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WL wrap around CG my dude

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 2:30 AM

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FG and CG

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u can see both there

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especially in the IMFT nand

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 2:34 AM

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hm i seee

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very cool yes

minor sun Feb 2, 2021, 2:43 AM

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hecc

radiant root Feb 2, 2021, 6:24 AM

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Pro tip: buy used hard drives

heavy dagger Feb 2, 2021, 1:07 PM

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https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/backblaze-outs-2020-hard-drive-stats-for-hdds-reliability-increased.html

Guru3D.com

Backblaze Outs 2020 Hard Drive Stats for HDDs - Reliability Increased

In 2020, Backblaze added 39,792 hard drives and as of December 31, 2020 we had 165,530 drives under management. Of that number, there were 3,000 boot drives and 162,530 data drives....

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@radiant root any reasoning on that? Does it depend on purpose?

I bought a used Ironwolf a while back, and while it is going strong I feel like the extra $10 might have been worth it

radiant root Feb 2, 2021, 1:52 PM

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heavy dagger <@671032609517862922> any reasoning on that? Does it depend on purpose? I bough...

I was joking bout buying a used hard drive. Used hard drives have a higher chance of breaking

heavy dagger Feb 2, 2021, 1:53 PM

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Yup ok wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing something ha

red jay Feb 2, 2021, 2:53 PM

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Guys I screwed down my m.2 but the m.2 doesn’t look straight

candid mural Feb 2, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Standoff?

heavy dagger Feb 2, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Got my first easystore to shuck and have 2 questions on it.

Should I check the easystore in any way before ripping out the drive to ensure it is what I want?
Is there a good guide for inserting it into unraid, replacing the current parity drive and freeing that other drive up for storage?

minor sun Feb 2, 2021, 4:09 PM

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@untold grove shucking person, what do you have to say

keen lantern Feb 2, 2021, 4:29 PM

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Any reason that I would need a Raid controller if I don't plan on using raid for the time being? Would assume I can just purchace one later and throw it in if needed.

untold grove Feb 2, 2021, 8:51 PM

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heavy dagger Got my first easystore to shuck and have 2 questions on it. 1. Should I check t...

hd sentinel

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and spaceinvader prolly has something for unraid

heavy dagger Feb 2, 2021, 9:02 PM

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So those are disk checks for it. Any red flags I should look for?

untold grove Feb 2, 2021, 9:03 PM

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just complete sector check

frosty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 10:45 PM

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get

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it

olive wadi Feb 2, 2021, 11:08 PM

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GO ONLINE

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SEE SN550 BAD BECAUSE DRAMLESS

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DAY RUINED

rancid pike Feb 2, 2021, 11:19 PM

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dayum, #675035372253741092

steel wadi Feb 2, 2021, 11:19 PM

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how can i transfer windows from my hdd to ssd
or format my hdd and install my stuff in ssd

tawdry raft Feb 2, 2021, 11:27 PM

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what is it with newegg always advertising the 2tb seagate barracuda as being on slae when its still msrp

untold grove Feb 2, 2021, 11:38 PM

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newegg does fake sales all the time lul

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i mean amazon does it too

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so its not their fault

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its just retail baby

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bean

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either way dont buy it its a garbage tier drive @tawdry raft

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and its not on sale rn

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tawdry raft Feb 2, 2021, 11:40 PM

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ik its not rn but it just is "on sale" all the time

dusk turtle Feb 2, 2021, 11:40 PM

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Pls don't that drive

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Terrible failure rate

tawdry raft Feb 2, 2021, 11:43 PM

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what drive would you recommend

dusk turtle Feb 2, 2021, 11:44 PM

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WD blue/black or Toshiba

radiant root Feb 2, 2021, 11:55 PM

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storage devices are a jojo reference to joseph joestar remembering things

steel wadi Feb 3, 2021, 12:15 AM

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dusk turtle Pls don't that drive

is seagate barracuda bad

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cuz i have one

dusk turtle Feb 3, 2021, 12:16 AM

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NOt recommended if you're buying new

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The failure rate is 3-4x that of other drives

steel wadi Feb 3, 2021, 12:17 AM

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bruh

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i bought that one

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also my windows crashes when i clean installed it

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wtf can i do

dusk turtle Feb 3, 2021, 12:18 AM

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Crashes probably aren't the drive

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It's proably drivers

steel wadi Feb 3, 2021, 12:19 AM

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the thing is

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when i open edge it crashes

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edge's logo dosent even show up

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its like corrupted idk

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im updating windows rn

dusk turtle Feb 3, 2021, 12:23 AM

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It could be anything TBH, event viewer can help point out what it is

steel wadi Feb 3, 2021, 12:24 AM

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uh

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im downloading nvidia drivers

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and edge says its a dangerous file

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im on the official page

dusk turtle Feb 3, 2021, 12:26 AM

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oof

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ditch edge

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use Chrome

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 12:30 AM

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they use the same heuristics

steel wadi Feb 3, 2021, 2:28 AM

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dusk turtle ditch edge

i cant lol

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i cant even download drivers

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i cant download chrome without my pc crashing

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like

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i clean installed windows

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and it crashes out of nowhere

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 3:20 AM

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dusk turtle Terrible failure rate

source pl0x

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convince me that seagate barracuda hate isnt just lol seagate bad meme

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 3:25 AM

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smr

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keeeek

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 3:30 AM

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untold grove smr

does not matter for consoomer non NAS applications 😎

tawdry raft Feb 3, 2021, 4:22 AM

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is the barracuda a bad choice, im always looking for input

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 4:32 AM

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yes

thick mulch Feb 3, 2021, 4:39 AM

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I like the barracuda hard drives

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The ssds are eeh

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But you can find some good deals on barracuda HDDs

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 4:46 AM

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ur wrong then

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drives r trash

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keeeeek

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ssds are the only good thing with the barracuda name

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:47 AM

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thick mulch The ssds are eeh

the SSDS are eh

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im sure you can explain SIR how the ssds are MEH

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:47 AM

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untold grove ur wrong then

sir please explain why average fortnite player should care about muh shingled magnetic recording sir

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 4:48 AM

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because drives dont exist in a vacuum

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and am not a sir

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thanks

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:48 AM

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sir is gender neutral but i will refrain from calling you sir

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also

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who would put their hard drive in a vacuum

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one would assume they would put it in a computer

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🥴

thick mulch Feb 3, 2021, 4:49 AM

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They are just not outstanding value

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I much more trust a samsung ssd

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:49 AM

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thick mulch I much more trust a samsung ssd

ah i see

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someone who knows nothing about SSDs

thick mulch Feb 3, 2021, 4:49 AM

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Well

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Your not WRONG

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 4:50 AM

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i like samsung drives but they arent the endgame brand

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theyre very nice tho

thick mulch Feb 3, 2021, 4:50 AM

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But i know speeds and value

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:50 AM

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there is no endgame brand

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samsung drives

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speed

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mfw

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 4:50 AM

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i feel like hynix close

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for gen3 consumer

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:50 AM

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p31 gold is entering pro-sumer territory

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 4:50 AM

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i just know my samsung drives have FAT tbw and are fine

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:50 AM

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omg

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tbw is always like

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not a meaningful metric

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600tbw drives will last like 4000tbw

thick mulch Feb 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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Team are my bois too

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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no i mean

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actual tbw

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dummy

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not ratings

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ratings are useless

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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actual tbw wise most drives that are using the same flash are going to be in the same range

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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tfw 3.5pbw on a 512gb samsung drive

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keeeeek

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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untold grove tfw 3.5pbw on a 512gb samsung drive

whats the error rate on that bad boy

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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0

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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base

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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it was literally perfect

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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what drive

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 4:52 AM

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i forgot but it was like

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oem 970 or 960

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one of the 2

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:52 AM

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meh

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you'll see the same with other drives

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non garbo flash+non garbo controller=drive that will last in the PB

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although you're a weirdo who actually kills drives with how much you write to them so

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i 😴

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go buy a 970 pro or something with muh 2 bit MLC

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or 3dxpoint

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🥴

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 4:54 AM

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i have a 960 pro looking

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is a cute drive

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:58 AM

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untold grove i have a 960 pro <:looking:744642067308740649>

that'd be mlc probs

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so

thick mulch Feb 3, 2021, 4:58 AM

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Thoughts on RGB ssdS

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:58 AM

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it'd explain big endurance

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 4:58 AM

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olive wadi that'd be mlc probs

yes but thats my main ssd

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:58 AM

#

o

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 4:58 AM

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the one i got 3.5 on was tlc

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:58 AM

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my main ssd is a phison e16 drive lol

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i got two vms running on my wd blue 3d right now and it's doing fine

#

gonna look eventually into adding an nvme drive for virtual machines

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something like a 2tb pilot-E or MP34 maybe

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or CS3030

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maybe p31 gold when 2tb comes out

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 5:00 AM

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would be fun

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 5:00 AM

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isnt one of the points of 4d nand and moving to a PUC design to make it more dense

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4tb p31 gold when

plush crag Feb 3, 2021, 5:05 AM

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Seeing you and aegis simp over the p31 makes me want to pick some of them up

untold grove Feb 3, 2021, 5:05 AM

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wtf what abt me

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wtfimcry

plush crag Feb 3, 2021, 5:06 AM

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thwinkTP

upper quiver Feb 3, 2021, 5:44 AM

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ppintelligence

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 6:25 AM

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plush crag Seeing you and aegis simp over the p31 makes me want to pick some of them up

bro

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its got 4d nand bro

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thats like

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one more d's than 3d bro

plush crag Feb 3, 2021, 6:26 AM

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Can't tell if meming, I don't follow any of this nearly to the level you or aegis do

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 6:26 AM

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plush crag Can't tell if meming, I don't follow any of this nearly to the level you or aegi...

sk hynix markets the PUC style flash as 4D nand lol

bitter vault Feb 3, 2021, 9:08 AM

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is samsung 970 evo plus vnand ssd able to run on RAID?

mild sluice Feb 3, 2021, 9:09 AM

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steveconfused

bitter vault Feb 3, 2021, 9:09 AM

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sorry imma big time novice lul

blazing musk Feb 3, 2021, 9:18 AM

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You can RAID literally anything. They don't even technically need to be multiple of the same drive.

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You could software RAID a SSD with a HDD but why would you do that except as proof that you can

fading coral Feb 3, 2021, 10:02 AM

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if your storage aint got rgb then its not worth buying

heavy dagger Feb 3, 2021, 1:00 PM

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Shite hd sentinel doesn't exist for osx.

olive wadi Feb 3, 2021, 4:02 PM

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V-nand moment

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vertical nand

red jay Feb 3, 2021, 5:56 PM

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In a workstation evironment, should I use a BBWC or a FBWC backup on a RAID card?

heavy dagger Feb 3, 2021, 7:58 PM

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Anyone know what to do with a shucked drive to get it ready to plug into an unraid server?

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like do I need to wipe it first or should I just be able to plug it in and be good to go

lyric aspen Feb 3, 2021, 8:18 PM

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Has anyone here had any issues with a hard drive?

minor sun Feb 3, 2021, 8:18 PM

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What is the question

lyric aspen Feb 3, 2021, 8:20 PM

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I been trying to fix a hard drive but it's an SSD and there might be some other drives that may need to be fixed I been kinda stuck with it on being able to get them fixed

dusk turtle Feb 3, 2021, 8:20 PM

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Fix an SSD?

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What's wrong with it?

minor sun Feb 3, 2021, 8:20 PM

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I'm confused

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SSHD?

lyric aspen Feb 3, 2021, 8:20 PM

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Bsod

dusk turtle Feb 3, 2021, 8:21 PM

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What BSOD?

minor sun Feb 3, 2021, 8:21 PM

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And are you sure the drive is the issue?

dusk turtle Feb 3, 2021, 8:21 PM

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file name/number?

lyric aspen Feb 3, 2021, 8:21 PM

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Yes but I don't have them with me right now

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I only have one SSD

dusk turtle Feb 3, 2021, 8:21 PM

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most likely it's not a drive issue but rather a driver issue

lyric aspen Feb 3, 2021, 8:22 PM

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It's a windows 10 bug

dusk turtle Feb 3, 2021, 8:23 PM

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Need to know the BSOD code and file name if possible

#

MOst likely software

lyric aspen Feb 3, 2021, 8:24 PM

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I will try to get it right now I'm not at home to do anything right now

minor sun Feb 3, 2021, 8:24 PM

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chkdsk?

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There was a chkdsk bug but

red jay Feb 3, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Uh i keep getting blue screened saying your pc did not start correctly after installing intel optane memory

#

Do I have to turn on intel rapid storage technology to have it working or no

red jay Feb 3, 2021, 11:23 PM

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I fixed that but then I was installing the setup for intel optane and it said to update your bios so then I did, then I saved and exited and it kept bringing me back to the bios and it said it found no bootable devices

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It found my hard drive but it shows no bootable devices

minor sun Feb 4, 2021, 12:17 AM

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@olive wadi may or may not be researching into storage cells for fun, is nor actually more popular than nand..?

📎 Screenshot_20210203-191025.png

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Also, optane just seems weird

late vector Feb 4, 2021, 12:17 AM

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mitsubishi???

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the heck

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 12:18 AM

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minor sun <@261617855257116672> may or may not be researching into storage cells for fun, ...

nor is used in different applications to nand

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where random-access is required over read/write speed

minor sun Feb 4, 2021, 12:18 AM

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Oh yea it talked about EEPROM vs EPROM I think it was?

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 12:18 AM

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like firmware on a piece of machinery

minor sun Feb 4, 2021, 12:19 AM

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For accessing single sections?

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 12:19 AM

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uuh that's just about read only memory stuff

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the main difference between nand and nor is that nor is bit addressible

minor sun Feb 4, 2021, 12:19 AM

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Yea I thought that was the difference between EPROM and EEPROM

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Being bit accessable

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 12:19 AM

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what

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i dont even know the difference between those two

#

thats boring

minor sun Feb 4, 2021, 12:20 AM

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Unless I was reading the wrong section and thought it was about EPROM against EEPROM

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 12:20 AM

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lol that doesnt have anything to do with nor vs nand im pretty sure

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the only difference between the acronyms seems to be that one is eraseable, and one is electrically eraseable

minor sun Feb 4, 2021, 12:20 AM

#

Here's the pdf I stumbled across

📎 SEC10.PDF

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 12:20 AM

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dont know dont care

minor sun Feb 4, 2021, 12:20 AM

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That I was reading

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 12:20 AM

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this is just a generic flash cell

📎 unknown.png

minor sun Feb 4, 2021, 12:21 AM

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Trying to figure out what was wrong with me and why I was reading it

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 12:21 AM

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nor and nand both use the same cells

#

which are either fgmos or ctf

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which really are both the same thing but using different materials

#

this must be old if they say that nor is used more

#

it might be used more???, but not in storage devices

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for firmware and other things that could benefit more from random access performance over read/write performance sure

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nand flash is better for actual storage drives since we're going to be addressing big chunks of data at once anyways, and it's cheaper to implement scaleability wise

#

one of the main reasons why it's cheaper and easier to impliment scaleability wise is simply because the cells are much closer together when compared to NOR

minor sun Feb 4, 2021, 12:29 AM

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Yea

#

Says 1997 at the bottom lol

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 3:55 AM

#

@plush crag thoughts

📎 GAMEZOIDS_ssd_guide_WIP.txt

plush crag Feb 4, 2021, 3:55 AM

#

what's a gamezoid

#

Also why not pastebin that

#

seems good

bitter vault Feb 4, 2021, 4:01 AM

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any RAID experts here?

#

I have an m2, and a SATA ssd attached to my pc, should both of them be showing up here?

#

📎 f33f3fefefawef.png

gray plume Feb 4, 2021, 4:06 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Blue-SN550-1TB-NVMe-Internal/dp/B07YFFX5MD/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=m.2&qid=1612411098&refinements=p_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A6797521011&rnid=6797515011&s=pc&sr=1-6
this a good deal/price?

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 4:10 AM

#

plush crag what's a gamezoid

other account

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for branding purposes

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 4:10 AM

#

gray plume https://www.amazon.com/Blue-SN550-1TB-NVMe-Internal/dp/B07YFFX5MD/ref=sr_1_6?dch...

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JHxbt6/mushkin-pilot-e-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mknssdpe1tb-d8 no because this is $8 more

Mushkin Pilot-E 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

gray plume Feb 4, 2021, 4:11 AM

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olive wadi https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JHxbt6/mushkin-pilot-e-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-...

difference?

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 4:11 AM

#

gray plume difference?

Better in every way for $8 more.

#

🤷

#

CITING GUIDE

📎 GAMEZOIDS_ssd_guide_WIP.txt

gray plume Feb 4, 2021, 4:12 AM

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olive wadi Better in every way for $8 more.

ok. ty

#

Also, in addition to that m.2 do i go with a 1tb 7200rpm hdd for $45 or a 2tb 5400rpm hdd for $66

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 4:22 AM

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idk ask someone who knows about hard drives lol

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 4:23 AM

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gray plume Also, in addition to that m.2 do i go with a 1tb 7200rpm hdd for $45 or a 2tb 54...

why not a 2tb 7200rpm for 55?

gray plume Feb 4, 2021, 4:23 AM

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upper quiver why not a 2tb 7200rpm for 55?

link?

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 4:24 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-Internal-Drive-3-5-Inch/dp/B07H2RR55Q

gray plume Feb 4, 2021, 4:24 AM

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oh. well then thats a nobrainer lol

red jay Feb 4, 2021, 4:40 AM

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Should I get hdd or ssd

#

Tell pweas

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 5:43 AM

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red jay Should I get hdd or ssd

You pretty much always want an SSD in a build, most people go for the 500gb-1tb SSD+2TB HDD combo

red jay Feb 4, 2021, 5:44 AM

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i wanna get a 4 tb

untold grove Feb 4, 2021, 6:24 AM

#

eww seagate

untold grove Feb 4, 2021, 6:24 AM

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red jay i wanna get a 4 tb

for pure data storage toshiba x300 is cute

red jay Feb 4, 2021, 9:32 AM

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Hmm Anymore RECOMMENDATIONS?

untold grove Feb 4, 2021, 9:33 AM

#

for every 500gb of ssd you have id say 2tb of hdd is good

#

so 1tb ssd + 4tb hdd

red jay Feb 4, 2021, 9:41 AM

#

Hmm Pretty good plan

#

I think I should get SSD 500gb 1tb or 2tb+500gB Hdd

#

But thanks for the recommendation I really apreciate it 😄

fickle lotus Feb 4, 2021, 9:57 AM

#

is anyone there?

#

is the intel 665p 1tb priced at 89$ a good deal?

#

is it better than the helix-L mp33 1tb ssd?

#

both are nvme

#

anyone know?

#

please?

#

somebody there???????

blazing musk Feb 4, 2021, 12:14 PM

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@fickle lotus That Intel is not the best deal but it is cheaper than average, and a decent drive to boot. Definitely Intel over Mushkin.

minor sun Feb 4, 2021, 12:54 PM

#

what

#

@blazing musk why?

#

I'd say Helix-L and Intel are basically the same in terms of performance

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 3:40 PM

#

fickle lotus is the intel 665p 1tb priced at 89$ a good deal?

that's fine.

olive wadi Feb 4, 2021, 3:40 PM

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fickle lotus is it better than the helix-L mp33 1tb ssd?

On par.

obtuse needle Feb 4, 2021, 7:58 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

Does it matter what I pick for the m.2 ssd

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for gaming

rugged widget Feb 4, 2021, 7:59 PM

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can anyone look for a good deal on a 128gb to 256 gb ssd 2.5 inch?

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:01 PM

#

obtuse needle

use GPT

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

#

What is master boot record anyways?

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:02 PM

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its all the same for you regardless of what you picked tho, so if you already picked MBR then it doesnt matter

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

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candid mural What is master boot record anyways?

its an old form of windows disk partitioning

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

#

okay

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

#

the MBR holds partitioning data for the disk

#

its been replaced by the GPT format

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

#

And i have a problem with my 970 evo plus

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

#

they both work pretty much the same for most people

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

#

I wanted to do it as a boot drive

#

but it isn't showing as a boot drive

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:04 PM

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you have to install windows to it

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:04 PM

#

I installed windows on it

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:04 PM

#

what other drives are in the system

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:04 PM

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i unpluged my other sdd

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:05 PM

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and you replugged it in after installing windows?

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:05 PM

#

i tried both

#

plug it when windows is install and other way

#

tried it "9" hours

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:05 PM

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plug both storage devices into the system, disable CSM in the bios, boot from your windows install USB

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:06 PM

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CSM?

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

compatibility support module

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:06 PM

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ah its the thing with UEFI ?

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

yeah, p much

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:06 PM

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tried that too : /

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

is it still disabled?

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

now idk

#

i installed windows on my sata ssd

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:08 PM

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upper quiver plug both storage devices into the system, disable CSM in the bios, boot from yo...

start by doing this, send a pic of the windows installer when it asks you where you want to install windows

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:08 PM

#

now i don't have it

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:08 PM

#

dang

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:08 PM

#

but i tried to format everything

#

is there like a driver for that thing?

#

i think i read it somewhere

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:08 PM

#

i mean

#

what motherboard do you have

#

was it made within the last like, 5 years?

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:09 PM

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b450 Tomahawk max

#

idk

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:09 PM

#

yeah, you dont need no drivers

#

that boards not even 2 years old

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:14 PM

#

could it be that my bios is a bit old?

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:14 PM

#

no

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:14 PM

#

my bios is from 22.04.2020 and the newest is 12.10.2020

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:15 PM

#

nothing wrong with updating it, just make sure you get the right bios for the cpu you have installed

#

but it wont fix your issue

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:15 PM

#

right bios for the cpu?

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:16 PM

#

its a midrange b450 board

#

due to bios rom size limitations, one bios cant support all the compatible cpu options

#

so there are many bios options that support specific cpus

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:17 PM

#

i have a r5 3600

#

but how do i know what bios i need?

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:17 PM

#

the cpu compatibility sheet will tell you

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:18 PM

#

on their webside?

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:18 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

nope

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:19 PM

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where did you find it?

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:20 PM

#

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX#down-bios

Welcome to the MSI Global official site. We are the top Gaming gear provider.

#

i forgot, this is a MAX board

#

they have larger bios flash chips

#

so you can actually just get the latest one lmao

#

i would totally suggest against the beta option tho

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:21 PM

#

upper quiver

but where did you find this? can't find this

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:21 PM

#

oh

#

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX#support-cpu

Welcome to the MSI Global official site. We are the top Gaming gear provider.

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thats here

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:21 PM

#

okay thx

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:22 PM

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but you should get the 7C02v39

candid mural Feb 4, 2021, 8:23 PM

#

ok

#

thx again for everything

upper quiver Feb 4, 2021, 8:23 PM

#

np

formal iris Feb 5, 2021, 12:01 AM

#

Can anyone help me figure out why I can't seem to connect to my hard drive? It seems i'm only reading my SSD

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:02 AM

#

new HDD?

#

or has it worked before

formal iris Feb 5, 2021, 12:03 AM

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I bought it prebuilt. I'm just now noticing it hasn't been on since I got it like 2 wednesdays ago. i've already checked the cords but it all seem in order. Plus my computer seems to recognize it but doesn't show up for storage

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:04 AM

#

so the drive appears in the BIOS?

#

wdym by "my computer seems to recognize it"

#

you mean like in device manager?

formal iris Feb 5, 2021, 12:05 AM

#

Idk if I see it in device manager, i was gonna share a pic but forgot the rules. It shows up in Disk Management

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:06 AM

#

thats good

#

does it look like this?

📎 unknown.png

formal iris Feb 5, 2021, 12:07 AM

#

Yes!

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:08 AM

#

or is the top bar black instead of blue

formal iris Feb 5, 2021, 12:08 AM

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it's blue

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:08 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

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does it have a drive letter?

formal iris Feb 5, 2021, 12:08 AM

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no

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:09 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

right click it

#

change drive letter and paths

formal iris Feb 5, 2021, 12:09 AM

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I can't? It seems it just says delete volume?

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:09 AM

#

hmmm

#

DM me a pic of your disk man

#

📎 unknown.png

#

stupid prebuilts

#

delete all 3 of those partitions on disk 1

formal iris Feb 5, 2021, 12:14 AM

#

done

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:14 AM

#

now there should only be one box with a black bar

#

right click, create new volume

formal iris Feb 5, 2021, 12:15 AM

#

Looks like that worked!

#

thank! I'm still learning the hardware stuff... I bought it prebuilt because I'm to afraid to build my own... Just so I have further knowledge. What happened?

red jay Feb 5, 2021, 12:16 AM

#

should i make a backup incase something happens when changing my sata mode?

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:16 AM

#

whatever company you bought the system from messed up

#

they didnt properly format the drive

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:17 AM

#

red jay should i make a backup incase something happens when changing my sata mode?

depends, is the drive you boot off a sata device?

formal iris Feb 5, 2021, 12:17 AM

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ah! Thank you very much. Now I just got to wait for the second hard drive to get here... whenever that is

red jay Feb 5, 2021, 12:17 AM

#

yea

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:17 AM

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then dont do it

#

it will make your os unbootable

red jay Feb 5, 2021, 12:18 AM

#

oh

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:18 AM

#

well

#

are you talking going from AHCI to RAID?

red jay Feb 5, 2021, 12:18 AM

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im trying to change it to the optane sata mode because i installed intel optane memory yesterday

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:18 AM

#

or legacy to AHCI?

#

oh

#

dont worry about backing anything up when you make bios changes

#

you can always just change them back

#

but as for how to setup an optane cache, i have no clue

red jay Feb 5, 2021, 12:20 AM

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ok because someone told me i should

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:20 AM

#

yeah its really tricky

red jay Feb 5, 2021, 12:20 AM

#

yea i didnt know either i just searched up or asked a lot of people

#

yesterday i got so confused because i couldnt boot into windows

#

i just had to enable csm

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:21 AM

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csm is annoying lol

red jay Feb 5, 2021, 12:21 AM

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what is csm anyways lol

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:21 AM

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compatibility support module

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it deals with booting legacy operating systems on UEFI based systems

red jay Feb 5, 2021, 12:22 AM

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oh ok

upper quiver Feb 5, 2021, 12:22 AM

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legacy is dead, csm is annoying, its best to just run windows 10 in UEFI mode

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but that requires you to install windows 10 in UEFI mode

red jay Feb 5, 2021, 12:23 AM

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whats the difference between legacy and uefi lmao

frosty condor Feb 5, 2021, 1:52 AM

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Is anyone familiar with an m.2 with read/write speeds under 40 mb/s that might be compatible with a Xeon?

untold grove Feb 5, 2021, 1:54 AM

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why under

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wtf

dusk turtle Feb 5, 2021, 1:56 AM

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frosty condor Is anyone familiar with an m.2 with read/write speeds *under* 40 mb/s that might...

uh, those are HDD read speeds. Old ones too

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Like, PATA era

thick mulch Feb 5, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Plus most things are xeon compatible with m.2

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Ivy bridge ep and up i can validate

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📎 image0.jpg

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New liquid cooled m.2s from team

past peak Feb 5, 2021, 4:12 AM

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sheesh 😳

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i'd rather have a dedicated cooler made at this point tbh

red jay Feb 5, 2021, 4:14 AM

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thick mulch

quick question. Whyyyy

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M.2's actually must run at a certain temperature

thick mulch Feb 5, 2021, 4:15 AM

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Idk

red jay Feb 5, 2021, 4:15 AM

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I know Nand likes to be warm

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35-40C

past peak Feb 5, 2021, 4:18 AM

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big speeds require normal temps

blazing musk Feb 5, 2021, 4:46 AM

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A heatsink is fine if you tend to run hot... $1

olive wadi Feb 5, 2021, 4:53 AM

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red jay M.2's actually must run at a certain temperature

they dont need to run at a certain temperature buta warm equalized temperature is preferable in long term endurance

untold grove Feb 5, 2021, 6:05 AM

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red jay quick question. Whyyyy

i prefer running air cooled https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FX7JZ7H

minor sun Feb 5, 2021, 6:21 AM

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@untold grove wow that's a funky one

untold grove Feb 5, 2021, 6:21 AM

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tower m.2 cooler

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keeeek

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need noctua one

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i was close to getting one tbh

minor sun Feb 5, 2021, 6:22 AM

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Nh u9s except for ssd

untold grove Feb 5, 2021, 6:22 AM

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enterprise drives get WARM

minor sun Feb 5, 2021, 6:22 AM

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Nh-u14s tr4 except for 2.5in

untold grove Feb 5, 2021, 6:22 AM

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some of my seagates were 70c idle

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like bro

minor sun Feb 5, 2021, 6:22 AM

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Sounds like my gpu under loaf

untold grove Feb 5, 2021, 6:24 AM

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🍞

red jay Feb 5, 2021, 6:26 AM

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untold grove i prefer running air cooled https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FX7JZ7H

Hey lili

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NZXT.com

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kekw

plush kelp Feb 5, 2021, 7:05 AM

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untold grove tower m.2 cooler

what if watercooled m.2?

amber matrix Feb 5, 2021, 7:32 AM

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heat pipes on an m.2 😭

untold grove Feb 5, 2021, 7:50 AM

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i can see watercooling my ssds

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tbh

olive wadi Feb 5, 2021, 2:19 PM

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untold grove i prefer running air cooled https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FX7JZ7H

crucial p5 users be like

untold grove Feb 5, 2021, 2:21 PM

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lmfaooooo

vestal hawk Feb 5, 2021, 7:29 PM

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is the WDS500G2B0B compatible with a Lenovo Yoga 2 13, Model 20344. Latest bios is 1.15.

radiant root Feb 5, 2021, 7:32 PM

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thick mulch New liquid cooled m.2s from team

so raid 0 then 😏

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and oc

plush kelp Feb 5, 2021, 8:48 PM

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what about this

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past peak Feb 5, 2021, 9:00 PM

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that looks like if i put my finger innit, i won't be able to take it out

blazing musk Feb 5, 2021, 9:01 PM

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Lol I was thinking the same thing, it looks like a finger trap

olive wadi Feb 5, 2021, 9:29 PM

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storage achieved

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austere cape Feb 5, 2021, 10:04 PM

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looking for a good deal on a nvme drive thats at least a terrabyte

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dont care about brand as long as its reliable

olive wadi Feb 5, 2021, 10:25 PM

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austere cape looking for a good deal on a nvme drive thats at least a terrabyte

united states?

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and use case of the drive?

austere cape Feb 5, 2021, 10:26 PM

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yup and so my games can load faster

olive wadi Feb 5, 2021, 10:26 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BJF48d/mushkin-enhanced-helix-l-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mknssdhl1tb-d8

Mushkin Enhanced Helix-L 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

austere cape Feb 5, 2021, 10:26 PM

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im on spnning rust

past peak Feb 5, 2021, 11:05 PM

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austere cape yup and so my games can load faster

it doesn't make a relevant difference going nvme over sata when talking about loading times in games iirc

austere cape Feb 5, 2021, 11:05 PM

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my space engineers takes a hot minute to load

blissful night Feb 5, 2021, 11:06 PM

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There barely is a loading speed difference in most games between Sata and NVMe.

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Certain games might have a slight difference but for the most part they don't.

quartz plaza Feb 5, 2021, 11:23 PM

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plush kelp what about this

is this a watercooled ssd

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excuse me what

blissful night Feb 5, 2021, 11:24 PM

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Gen4

olive wadi Feb 6, 2021, 12:17 AM

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blissful night Gen4

still isn't going to benefit from cooling

blissful night Feb 6, 2021, 12:18 AM

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Oh i know

olive wadi Feb 6, 2021, 12:18 AM

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blissful night There barely is a loading speed difference in most games between Sata and NVMe.

yep but these budget nvme drives either cost the same or cheaper

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🕺

blissful night Feb 6, 2021, 12:18 AM

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I am saying its Gen4

olive wadi Feb 6, 2021, 12:18 AM

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base

stone patio Feb 6, 2021, 2:02 AM

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So i have an interesting situation that I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on. I live in an rv and I'm currently building my first pc. Is there a potential for issues with rocking and movement with a hard drive while off or running? Nothing is super stable like a house so I'm concerned that a good bumb or rock from a gust of wind could damage a hard drive.

blazing musk Feb 6, 2021, 2:04 AM

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When it's off, you don't need to worry much about shock damage like that.
If it's on there's potential for skipping if it's got a HDD

blissful night Feb 6, 2021, 2:04 AM

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It would most likely be fine, but you could just go all SSD

stone patio Feb 6, 2021, 2:05 AM

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Thats what I'm thinking about I'm just not sure if i want to pay more than twice the price for half the capacity

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I already have a 250gb boot ssd, so I'm thinking just a 1tb ssd, maybe an m.2 of i find one on sale

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I see the patriot vpn100 m.2 is going to be one of neweggs big deals tomorrow, its normal $150

olive wadi Feb 6, 2021, 2:12 AM

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stone patio So i have an interesting situation that I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts...

Wouldn't be a problem

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@stone patio might be helpful if you're picking out an ssd

📎 GAMEZOIDS_SSD_guide_WIP.txt

blazing musk Feb 6, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Don't make pcie vs sata a selling point. There's little real world difference unless you're doing large transfers.

olive wadi Feb 6, 2021, 2:13 AM

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blazing musk Don't make pcie vs sata a selling point. There's little real world difference un...

Budget nvme drives cost the same or less than your average not garbage sata drives these days 😆

blazing musk Feb 6, 2021, 2:14 AM

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Yeah but if you found 2 comparable drives and the sata was $5 cheaper I'd go for the sata

olive wadi Feb 6, 2021, 2:15 AM

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nah $5 worth it, even if the difference isn't tangible

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arguably right now the non garbage sata drives cost more

frosty condor Feb 6, 2021, 3:19 AM

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Hey hey hey, looking for a real cheap 240 gig minimum M.2 NVME drive. m.2 interface itself is capped at 20Gbps maximum transfer rate

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Anyone got ideas?

untold grove Feb 6, 2021, 4:36 AM

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plush kelp what about this

unironically i rly want that to be the new corsair logo for everything

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old one is so ugly

olive wadi Feb 6, 2021, 4:41 AM

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frosty condor Anyone got ideas?

budget

untold grove Feb 6, 2021, 4:45 AM

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240gb cring

frosty condor Feb 6, 2021, 5:48 AM

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Not really a specific budget, just as cheap as possible with crossing the line into the sloth speed m.2s

frosty condor Feb 6, 2021, 5:53 AM

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untold grove 240gb cring

It’s a purpose built server. Everything is being stored to ram. I’ve got to fit windows and some rm software but that’s about it. If I ever need to backup what’s running without overwriting the backups on the m.2, I can just add some HDDs.

untold grove Feb 6, 2021, 3:45 PM

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why are you using a ramdisk

blissful night Feb 6, 2021, 4:42 PM

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How much RAM does the system have?

untold grove Feb 7, 2021, 2:00 AM

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im gonna guess like 64 or 128

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@frosty condor whatcha usin it for

olive wadi Feb 8, 2021, 4:52 AM

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@untold grove How is it that sata splitters are generally considered safe, but molex to sata adapters aren't?

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I thought the problem with molex->sata existed just in the quality of the sata connectors end

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something about molding tolerances

olive wadi Feb 8, 2021, 5:46 AM

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poop it im just going to order molex->sata directly from molex

gray lodge Feb 8, 2021, 12:38 PM

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Anyone here using an external ssd on a xbox one s?

shrewd wigeon Feb 8, 2021, 1:19 PM

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Will the 2TB PlayStation External Game Drive work as a regular storage device for files instead of games?

gray lodge Feb 8, 2021, 1:39 PM

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There is no reason it shouldnt

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Not sure if ps has a file manager tho

lean quest Feb 8, 2021, 2:46 PM

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So if I get a new raid card will my raided drives be messed up or will they all be fine?

static ginkgo Feb 8, 2021, 3:34 PM

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does anyone have an ssd to recommend for around 40-50 bucks?

blissful night Feb 8, 2021, 3:35 PM

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MX500, SN550

static ginkgo Feb 8, 2021, 3:37 PM

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ty

olive wadi Feb 8, 2021, 3:52 PM

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static ginkgo does anyone have an ssd to recommend for around 40-50 bucks?

500gb look at budget nvme drives and pick the cheapest

📎 GAMEZOIDS_SSD_guide_WIP.txt

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look at 2.5" 500gb if you're trying to cram and none of the nvme options are $50

untold grove Feb 8, 2021, 4:35 PM

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lean quest So if I get a new raid card will my raided drives be messed up or will they all ...

yes

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array will need to be imported

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should be ez as long as same type of card

obsidian mirage Feb 8, 2021, 5:46 PM

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So I'll be out of a sn750, prospecting to rebuy it in due time. Although now that I have a Gen4 capable mobo, it seems prime to get a sn850. But it's currently expensive, which is why I opted for the sn750 in the first place. Maintain course for that 750?

somber current Feb 8, 2021, 5:59 PM

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sn 850

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i have a 750 and a gen4 mobo

minor sun Feb 8, 2021, 5:59 PM

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Why a SN850?

somber current Feb 8, 2021, 5:59 PM

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gen 4

minor sun Feb 8, 2021, 5:59 PM

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Why does PCIe gen 4 benefit you?

somber current Feb 8, 2021, 5:59 PM

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speed

minor sun Feb 8, 2021, 6:00 PM

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There's no perceivable difference between gen 3 and gen 4 for day to day use

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Load times, boot times, etc.

somber current Feb 8, 2021, 6:00 PM

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boot isnt faster?

minor sun Feb 8, 2021, 6:00 PM

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It's in the 0.1 second range

somber current Feb 8, 2021, 6:00 PM

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oh lol

minor sun Feb 8, 2021, 6:00 PM

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Not perceivable

somber current Feb 8, 2021, 6:00 PM

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nvm then

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sry

olive wadi Feb 8, 2021, 6:09 PM

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somber current boot isnt faster?

nope

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increasing the maximum bandwith isn't going to affect your boot times

untold grove Feb 8, 2021, 6:09 PM

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minor sun It's in the 0.1 second range

less keeeek

olive wadi Feb 8, 2021, 6:09 PM

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go buy an sk hynix p31 gold 😎

untold grove Feb 8, 2021, 6:09 PM

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windshields u typed it before i did

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keeeek

olive wadi Feb 8, 2021, 6:09 PM

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lili

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i bought

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molex to sata adapters

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😳

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molex brand

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crimped ones with no fire risk though

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my sata splitters are molded so im extrapolating that they are also a liability

untold grove Feb 8, 2021, 6:11 PM

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pog

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i just upgraded infrastructure

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keeeek

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oopse

obsidian mirage Feb 8, 2021, 6:12 PM

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So stick to just rebuying the 750, then.

minor sun Feb 8, 2021, 8:23 PM

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@untold grove how are you going to become ghosty

untold grove Feb 8, 2021, 8:24 PM

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im watching ghostbusters soon

minor sun Feb 8, 2021, 8:24 PM

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nooo

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don't kill ghosty

stone patio Feb 8, 2021, 11:33 PM

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Is dram worth a $14 upcharge from no dram?

obsidian steeple Feb 8, 2021, 11:36 PM

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Yes, but what drives are you looking at?

stone patio Feb 8, 2021, 11:51 PM

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T-force vulcan and T-force vulcan G

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Both 1tb

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 12:52 AM

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cringe

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why get tforce

minor sun Feb 9, 2021, 2:16 AM

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For dram vs no dram on SATA, imo dram is worth that upcharge

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before windshields comes, no hmb on sata

lean quest Feb 9, 2021, 2:23 AM

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so I tested my ssd that I thought was doa... and I found that I could access it fine on my pc but the server can't see it at all

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direct and with the adapter

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and I can't see it at all in the server

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hmmm

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@untold grove also a question rather than musings, do you know if it's possible to use the idrac port as a NIC? IE not plug in two network cables to the server? I know I can use IDRAC with LOM but it seems like there's features that might not fully work if using that though

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 2:37 AM

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uhhhh

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dont

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lol

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 2:37 AM

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minor sun For dram vs no dram on SATA, imo dram is worth that upcharge

im just wondering why the hell they want sata

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lol

lean quest Feb 9, 2021, 2:38 AM

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but I don't want to have to buy another network cable and run it to my other room where my server lives rn 😦

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 2:38 AM

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uh

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buy a switch

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lul

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real question is why werent you using a switch to begin with

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i literally make out with unifi so id go with their switches for managed

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or

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if ur poor

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tp link unmanaged 8 port gigabit switch is cute too

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unifi is raccmount tho

lean quest Feb 9, 2021, 2:44 AM

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so unmanaged is just going to mean I have to control everything through my router and everything gets it's own IP address basically? And with a managed switch it creates a subnet that I can do individual controls on?

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or would at least allow me to create a subnet with it

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and also any other troubleshooting thoughts about that drive above... not sure what to do since I can see it with my PC and also other drives in that bay work fine. Seems like my server just doesn't like this drive for whatever reason

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 2:57 AM

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what drive

lean quest Feb 9, 2021, 2:57 AM

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ssd kingston 120gb 2.5in

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shows up in windows on my pc with and without 3.5 in adapter, but when I plug it into any of the bays on my server it just has a orange blinking light and doesn't even show in bios

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 3:03 AM

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kingston bad

rancid pike Feb 9, 2021, 3:08 AM

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lmao

lean quest Feb 9, 2021, 3:09 AM

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but either way

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them having less than optimal storage shouldn't make my server unable to see the drives

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 3:35 AM

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no like

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their firmware bad

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lul

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samsung best for servers

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sometimes servers dont work with awful consumer ssds

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samsung makes sure everything they make works with servers

lean quest Feb 9, 2021, 4:00 AM

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ahh well I baited myself when you convinced me not to buy the 860 250gb

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can I go wrong with intel drives or samsung though

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 4:11 AM

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Or sandisk 64gb lol

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I have so many of those

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Theyre little troopers

olive wadi Feb 9, 2021, 4:51 AM

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stone patio T-force vulcan and T-force vulcan G

buy nvme

olive wadi Feb 9, 2021, 4:53 AM

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untold grove kingston bad

a400 bad*

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a2000 and above good

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 4:53 AM

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Kingston bad in general

olive wadi Feb 9, 2021, 4:53 AM

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:(

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 4:53 AM

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For lab

olive wadi Feb 9, 2021, 4:53 AM

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doubt

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 4:53 AM

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Their ssds dont work in a lot of servers

olive wadi Feb 9, 2021, 4:55 AM

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probably work fine for consoomer servers

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a2000 is generic sm2263 drive no reason why it shouldnt

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 4:55 AM

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Iirc they blacklist server boards in their firmware

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Or something like that

olive wadi Feb 9, 2021, 4:55 AM

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anywayys i recently learned my asrock rack ep2c612ws can bifurcate to x4x4x4x4

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 4:55 AM

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Owo

olive wadi Feb 9, 2021, 4:55 AM

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boutta get an nvme card

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lol my asrock b550i pg can also do that

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 4:56 AM

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4x p31 gold 1tb time

olive wadi Feb 9, 2021, 4:56 AM

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waitijg for p31 gold canada availability

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gonna put all my vms in nvme

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 4:56 AM

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Dewit

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What hypervisor u run?

olive wadi Feb 9, 2021, 4:57 AM

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lol im a dumb unraid user :(

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me like orange webgui 🐵

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gonna look at a real hypervisor at some point

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gonna buy two 16tb helium sealed exos from my roommate soon 😎

untold grove Feb 9, 2021, 5:01 AM

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If u want esxi hmu

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lookingdirectlyatyou

olive wadi Feb 9, 2021, 5:05 AM

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untold grove If u want esxi hmu

what is esxi

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im not "in the industry"

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yet

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toshiba wont get back to me about ordering a batch of 96 layer

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oh its a hypervisor os

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cool

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unraid works for me rn ill probs use that when i make a second server

obsidian mirage Feb 9, 2021, 5:32 AM

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I load optimized (aka default ) settings to my mobo, adjusted where it need to adjust. I sure hope once I get a replacement M.2, it works exactly as it should: recognized by Windows as a partition.

dusk turtle Feb 9, 2021, 5:35 AM

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obsidian mirage I load optimized (aka default ) settings to my mobo, adjusted where it need to a...

You always have to go to Disk management with a new drive and allocate the space

obsidian mirage Feb 9, 2021, 5:36 AM

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That's exactly what I meant.

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If my computer can't detect the drive, then something's gone wrong.

dusk turtle Feb 9, 2021, 5:37 AM

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Ah, it didn't show up in Disk Management?

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Did it show in the BIOS?

obsidian mirage Feb 9, 2021, 5:38 AM

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It showed in BIOS and was working fine, but then I messed with the settings and adding array to the M.2 and ultimately it can't be recognized without enabling NVMe Raid.

dusk turtle Feb 9, 2021, 5:38 AM

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not a RAID expert but there should be a way to get it back

obsidian mirage Feb 9, 2021, 5:38 AM

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This was an inconvenience that didn't suit me, so I'm out of an M.2, looking for a new one.

obsidian mirage Feb 9, 2021, 5:40 AM

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dusk turtle not a RAID expert but there should be a way to get it back

It doesn't matter; I returned it and got my refund. I took this lesson to heart in simply treatin' the M.2 as a straight plug-n-play. Or plug-n-partition-n-play.

dusk turtle Feb 9, 2021, 5:41 AM

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Yes

storm meadow Feb 9, 2021, 9:04 AM

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Hey, guys. I hope everyone's well. (This is actually my first time posting on Discord, so I hope I'm doing it properly!)

I could use a little help. I ordered a TB drive and about an hour after using it, it began malfunctioning. I can access my files that are on it for a couple of minutes before I get this problem. Do you guys know if there's anything I can do or am I just screwed? I have some important files transferred onto there (my wife's too), so I can't just send it back. I've also made sure all of my drives were up-to-date to make sure that wasn't the issue. : (

olive wadi Feb 9, 2021, 3:19 PM

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storm meadow Hey, guys. I hope everyone's well. (This is actually my first time posting on Di...

Can you just not access any files on it? Your description of the problem is a little vague

inland hazel Feb 9, 2021, 5:52 PM

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What’s the best bang for the buck 1tb m.2 you can get? If there are any

obsidian mirage Feb 9, 2021, 5:58 PM

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sn750.

open gazelle Feb 9, 2021, 6:01 PM

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right now, the Pilot-E:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JHxbt6/mushkin-pilot-e-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mknssdpe1tb-d8

Mushkin Pilot-E 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

fossil onyx Feb 9, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Hello. I purchased a Seagate BarraCuda Q5 SSD and a ASRock B450M PRO4 AM4 motherboard. Per your PC builder they are compatible. Per Seagate and AS rock they are not. Does anyone have more info?

dusk turtle Feb 9, 2021, 6:15 PM

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they're compatible

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Not sure why they'd say they weren't

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It needs to go in the M2_1 M.2 slot

gleaming hill Feb 9, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Is it the difference in connector type?

dusk turtle Feb 9, 2021, 6:16 PM

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The 2 slot is Sata only

dusk turtle Feb 9, 2021, 6:16 PM

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fossil onyx Hello. I purchased a Seagate BarraCuda Q5 SSD and a ASRock B450M PRO4 AM4 moth...

That drive will work in the M2_1 M.2 slot on the motherboard

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NOt the M2_2 slot

minor sun Feb 9, 2021, 6:17 PM

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If you have another drive that goes in the M.2_1 slot, you might have some issues

dusk turtle Feb 9, 2021, 6:18 PM

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Yeah, the M2_2 slot is SATA only

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"1 x M.2 Socket (M2_2), supports M Key type 2230/2242/2260/2280 M.2 SATA3 6.0 Gb/s module"

digital berry Feb 9, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Crucial mx500 a good alternatice to the samsung evo 860?

minor sun Feb 9, 2021, 6:35 PM

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It's a step down

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Assuming 860 pro/evo

digital berry Feb 9, 2021, 6:42 PM

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I dont have the pro version

minor sun Feb 9, 2021, 6:42 PM

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evo is good still

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It's just as long as it's not the qvo

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qvo is meh (still decent, but relatively meh)

olive wadi Feb 9, 2021, 11:54 PM

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open gazelle right now, the Pilot-E: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JHxbt6/mushkin-pilot-e-...

🅱️

olive wadi Feb 9, 2021, 11:54 PM

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digital berry Crucial mx500 a good alternatice to the samsung evo 860?

📎 GAMEZOIDS_SSD_guide_WIP.txt

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all of these are suitable alternatives

📎 unknown.png

fossil onyx Feb 10, 2021, 12:31 AM

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dusk turtle NOt the M2_2 slot

Thank you for your response. I will test it and post my results.

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Thank you all for your responses. I will test it and post my results.

nimble robin Feb 10, 2021, 2:13 AM

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dusk turtle Yeah, the M2_2 slot is SATA only

Is this for all boards or only certain ones?

dusk turtle Feb 10, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Only certain ones

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Mainly b450

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@nimble robin

nimble robin Feb 10, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Ahhh

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Perfect then

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Cause i put my dad’s SSD in the M.2_2 slot on his strix B450

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KEK

untold grove Feb 10, 2021, 3:08 AM

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mx500 cring

storm meadow Feb 10, 2021, 9:47 AM

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olive wadi Can you just not access any files on it? Your description of the problem is a li...

I can access them for a couple minutes before the device malfunctions and disconnects.

untold grove Feb 10, 2021, 1:46 PM

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keeeek

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backblaze drive fail stats