#storage-devices

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whole prawn
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do i just make one massive partition

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?

untold grove
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like everything

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yes

whole prawn
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lmao closest i have to network storage

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is windows file sharing

untold grove
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lol

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well

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truenas or unraid?

whole prawn
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one other dumb thing i really want
but would probally be dumb

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would drive compression be acceptable on a raid array

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or would that just inflate rebuild times

untold grove
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dont

whole prawn
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duck i just realized the software needs 8GB minimum

untold grove
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yep

whole prawn
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the thing its running on will have 6GB of memory

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i dont have a another 2GB stick kicking arounf

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around

untold grove
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get another

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unraid only needs 2gb

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fwiw

whole prawn
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well then unraid it is then
ok is a core 2 quad a good enough proccessor?

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i have plans for a E5-2690 but well that will take a few months to make happen

untold grove
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for just using as a nas?

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yea

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might even b able to run some vms

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btw

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again

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unraid is not free

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i used it for free for over 2 years lu;

whole prawn
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oh right so two sketchy memory sticks would be cheaper

untold grove
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well unraid is also better for what ur doing

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iirc u get 2 trial extensions

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and

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it only ends the trial when the array is stopped

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1 year uptime ftw

whole prawn
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ok so now
its
5x 3TB enterprise HGST drives
1x 500w rosewill PSU
1x Core 2 Quad Q6600

Coming soon
8GB of DDR2
1x PCIE raid controller
TrueNAS

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is that more ok

untold grove
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that is a terrifying build but i mean

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itll work

whole prawn
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im a broke 15 year old so not much more i can do

untold grove
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scared of psu

whole prawn
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the PSU i have abused like duck

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i used the thing to run a

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Core 2 Quad, GTX 1050 and GTX 580 + 3 drives

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all in one machine and it surived

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like a year of this non stop (70% of that time was 100% load everything)

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so i think the PSU is fine for 5 drives

untold grove
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lmao

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why 2 cards

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actually i dont wanna know

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ur setups scare me

whole prawn
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Oh did i mention it used to have a 3rd card?

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it used to have a...

untold grove
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ur gonna scare my servers

whole prawn
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Some random ATI radeon PCI card from like 2002

untold grove
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literally all my servers are crying rn

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just use unraid

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unraid loves jank configs

whole prawn
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Dont worry

untold grove
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like \

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i used to run unraid

whole prawn
untold grove
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it loved my jank config

whole prawn
dusk turtle
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:eyetwitch:

untold grove
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lol nah

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just reminds me of when i was starting out

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cobbling stuff together, hoping itd work

whole prawn
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yes thats chocholate

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i made some mistakes that day

untold grove
whole prawn
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Dont worry no down time was experienced :)

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during clean up

untold grove
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i used to host all of lililabs on a core 2 duo machine with 8gb ram

dusk turtle
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I used to have 3 headless nodes next to my desk

untold grove
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2x2tb wd blue

dusk turtle
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Folding@Home on Arch

untold grove
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niiiice

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i used to fold on jasmine

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2 1080s

dusk turtle
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NOICE

whole prawn
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here something even more advanced
this is the inside of my current NAS :)

dusk turtle
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I'm talking like

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Back when AMD Athlon 64 was new

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had 4 of those puppies in total

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Humming away

whole prawn
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that is a LGA 3647 passive cooler

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ziptied to a PGA 478 pentium 4

untold grove
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why is the fan on the top

whole prawn
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with a molex powered fan ziptied to it

untold grove
whole prawn
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:)

untold grove
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man i wish i had pics of my old setup

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the current babies

dusk turtle
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Why does the fan look like it's installed upside down?

untold grove
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missing some storage

untold grove
dusk turtle
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XD

whole prawn
dusk turtle
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K, I'm not crazy then

untold grove
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sid

whole prawn
untold grove
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cursed

whole prawn
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dont worry i have some photos of non sketch technology

untold grove
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those dell coolers were absolute behemoths

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my only lab pic is my ram

whole prawn
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those dell coolers were absolute behemoths
i knowwww

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i love old dell coolers

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there so FOKING big

untold grove
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32gb stix

whole prawn
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oh bad photo

untold grove
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wdym had lol

whole prawn
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i built the thing and then sold it made like 70$ profit

untold grove
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it run away from home?

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oh lol

whole prawn
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it sounds like a leaf blower i put a server CPU cooler on it

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its a E5-2690 with 16GB of DDR3

untold grove
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nice

whole prawn
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later got paired with a RX 580 8GB and 3TB HDD then i sold it

untold grove
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jasmine is rockin 2x E5-1660 V2

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absolutely screams

whole prawn
untold grove
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i named them cause i used to have a full rack

whole prawn
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i want a full rackk

untold grove
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easier than saying node 1 and node 2

whole prawn
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i tried to do low budget greenscreen with the TV

untold grove
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love that case

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and just save up friendo

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ull get it some day

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i got all my ram when one of my friends died

whole prawn
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im trying to start a small business getting old datacenter stuff and turning it into GAYming pc's

untold grove
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i got their lab, took the content they wanted me to take, dbanned the drives

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oh i do that but with new datacenter stuff

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sell quadros and epycs

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thinkpads too ❤️

whole prawn
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lmao

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the person who bought it for me apperently bought the thing for his kid for christmas

untold grove
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nice

whole prawn
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so i wont even find out if it even turns on untill tommorow

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i pray the USPS guy didnt break it

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have been waiting like a month for it to become christmas so i can find out of the thing turns on

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since the guy wont test it or anything until christmas

untold grove
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hope that unrated psu doesnt commit self oof

whole prawn
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i did like 2-3 days of burnin testing

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but at the same time

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considering i ran a Q6600, GTX 580 and GTX 1050 + 3 drives on a 500w rosewill psu

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i would think a 450 rosewill can handle a single drive RX 580 and E5-2690

untold grove
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still 0 clue why that ws done

whole prawn
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oh for Cuda performance

untold grove
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in?

whole prawn
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lmao i use a different name for BOINC

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the GTX 580 in question spent a year crunching Seti

untold grove
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nice

whole prawn
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so 100% load 24/7

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unless there was a power failure

untold grove
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i just folded when i cared

whole prawn
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never causes issues because i only have it run when the my main is idle

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so it automatically starts after 1 minute of no mouse or keyboard input

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never has caused a issue

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but on every other device i just have it set to run 24/7

untold grove
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boinc is cool in concept but id never donate anything ever keeeek

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so

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esp noy my precious cycles

whole prawn
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before i managed (when i had like 5 PCs running BOINC) i got to like i think 800 and somethinth place

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out of like 4,700,000

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participants

untold grove
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nice

whole prawn
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i want to get to like in the top 500

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or better

untold grove
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i remember doing boinc for a little

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but it was rly hard to find something that wasnt completely stupid to donate to

whole prawn
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well same

untold grove
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so many morons doing stuff like "let us find aliens" and stuff like that

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finally found one that was abt disease prevention

whole prawn
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ok seti is like that

untold grove
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and u can see how well that worked keeeek

whole prawn
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but its interesting

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then i just dropped it for awhile

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as the period where its just flat

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i was having hardware issues and couldent figure out why

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so i just dropped it

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then i fixed the issues

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and continued again

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turns out me running my GPU at 1900MHZ 24/7 for like a year

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locked clock speed so it wouldent decrease with lower loads

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was not ideal for a pascal GPU

untold grove
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well those are cycles youll never get back keeeek

whole prawn
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lowerd the clock to like 1500mhz and now its fine

untold grove
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u do anything else with the machines?

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well not much i guess since u arent using linux keeeek

whole prawn
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there are other things i would like to do but my hardware is to potato

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i game and do web browsing

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my main struggles to play 1080p youtube back

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also want to get into 3D modeling and stuff but that will take awhile

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before i can get vastly better hardware

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probally like a year or so

untold grove
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well

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on ur c2q machine

whole prawn
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yea my main is core 2 quad

untold grove
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u can mess with hosting some stuff

whole prawn
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the NAS will also be core 2 quad

untold grove
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or u can get a vps from lililabs keeeek

whole prawn
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what

untold grove
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if u wanna host whatever

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like a little vm u can ssh into

whole prawn
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oh i dont want to do any hosting i just want raw local compute resources and lots of storage

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thats about it honestly

untold grove
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well id do unraid and spin up a pihole instance

whole prawn
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fair enough pi hole

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i have wanted to set that up

untold grove
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is ez

whole prawn
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really i wanna have a massive rack of servers just a entire small room or something loaded with them

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and just have a single linux instance..

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but with immense resources

untold grove
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done it

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not too fun

whole prawn
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does it even work

untold grove
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sort of

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its dumb tho

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servers are meant to run smaller services

whole prawn
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true but

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lets imagine you were using EPYC's or something like 20 of them in that config to run one massive linux instance

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would software even be able to use all the CPU's or would you need custom software to even use them

untold grove
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i used epycs keeeek

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jk i only had 2

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i just ran kb

whole prawn
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i was trying to get some kool server software a week or two ago and well... i got carpet bombed here

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22k lmao

untold grove
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lol

whole prawn
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yes

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lesson learned server software is not good for 15 year olds when ethical aquirement methods are used

dry bane
elfin ember
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well gn merry Christmas hope you get what you asked for 🙂

whole prawn
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lol i just got more money
so now im ordering 2 more drives
so now i will have 7x 3TB drives
in a Raid 5 Array
:)))

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moarrrr poweeerrr

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now i will have room for lots of

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"Linux Distros"

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because i mean what else would i use that storage for

whole prawn
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wait is 7x 3TB drives in raid 5 even a good idea for data security

lean quest
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Raid 5 is still only single disk loss allowed

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So it depends on how valuable your data is

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If you can tolerate the risk of 2 drives failing at once causing complete data loss then yea that’s probably fine

whole prawn
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yes

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but what are the chances of 2 drives failing

lean quest
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Quite low

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And you just replace a single failed drive if only one fails

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But also what do you need 18tb for 🤔

whole prawn
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idk

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ill probally go raid 6 tho because there is no way i would manage to fill 15TB in a year or two

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and by that time ill be able to just have drives kicking around ready to swap in during a failure

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by the time i would fill 15TB

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i would probally have a old tape library or something i would use for backups

vernal geode
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Hey guys I need help with ssd migration

whole prawn
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yes?

vernal geode
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I got a Samsung 970 evo and I have another m.2 ssd so I can’t directly migrate the data using Samsung software but I also have a hard drive. What’s the best way to get everything from my old ssd to the Samsung ssd if the old ssd is my boot device?

heady raven
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@vernal geode macrium reflect does the trick

whole prawn
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so are you saying

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you have 2 SSD's

vernal geode
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Yes

whole prawn
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and 1 HDD?

vernal geode
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Yes

whole prawn
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whats the capacity of the HDD

vernal geode
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Everything is 1tb

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But the old ssd is super slow so I wanna switch out with 970 evo

whole prawn
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ok so all the devices are 1TB? including the SSD's?

vernal geode
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Yes

whole prawn
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just image the SSD and save the image to the HDD

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then burn the image from the HDD to the other SSD

vernal geode
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Ok

whole prawn
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and then once you make sure the new SSD is working and stuff and everything has transfered

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assuming you want to get rid of the old ssd

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just take a hammer to it to make sure the NSA cant get your precious 1's and 0's and have some fun while smashing

lean quest
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I’m pretty sure a hammer wouldn’t do much to the data on a ssd

whole prawn
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if you smash it really really hard so that the chips break in half or something

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yea its dead

lean quest
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Hdd sure hammer is going to destroy it pretty darn good

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Ssd isn’t just one big thing though you could recover just parts of it

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Hdd platter you have to spin to read and you can’t spin it if it’s broken

whole prawn
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well then just throw the SSD in a broken microwave

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and then RUN

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actually i wanna do that

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just wipe a drive with a broken sacrifical microwave

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just pry the top off the drive so microwaves can get to those platters

lean quest
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Pretty sure that doesn’t work either

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My link got removed oof

whole prawn
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a sh1t load of sparks comming off the platter dosent result in data destruction?

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i would think a magnetic platter violently sparking for a good minute or two

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would be 100% unrecoverable

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lmao i would try it anyway just to see what happens

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oh nvm metal only sparks in microwaves if it has like pointy edges and stuff

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a magnetic platter dosent

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:(

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now im sad i had my hopes up for hard drive fireworks

untold grove
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Depending on what ssd you got it may come with cloning software

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Just saw it didnt work for you

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Go with what naed said, reflect works fine

whole prawn
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now im just thinking of the most creative and fun way to destroy a hard drive

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i wonder if you took the platters out of the drive but then.... you put it on some system to spin it crazy fast
how many RPM would you need to get the platters to just violently shatter?

lean quest
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I seem to remember a video about that a while back, probably like 30,000+ rpm

whole prawn
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hm

untold grove
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why destroy drives as long as the data is gone

whole prawn
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yea but thats no fun

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sure DBAN is nice

untold grove
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idc abt fun

whole prawn
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but its no fun

untold grove
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oh i use active

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gives me certificates i can show clients

vernal geode
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ok so use reflect

untold grove
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yes

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or clonezilla

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either does the same thing but reflect is easier to use imo

vernal geode
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so i transfer the old ssd stuff to my hard drive, put in new ssd, and retransfer the stuff i put on my hdd to my new ssd?

untold grove
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???

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why can u not just

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wait what

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lol

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do u only have 1 nvme slot or smth

late vector
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Yea probably

untold grove
whole prawn
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Time to kill the chat with another data storage tendency of mine

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i dont keep CD's,DVD's, Blu-rays in cases :)

untold grove
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these are not things to be proud of

whole prawn
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Dont worry all my discs are still protected

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basically i have a large 300 CD disc changer, sure it can only read audio CD's but

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it has a numbering system so it gives each disc a number

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1-300

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with me putting all my discs into it

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and numbering them in a txt file

hazy bridge
untold grove
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hell yeah baby

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shuck em if ya got em :)))))

hazy bridge
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It’ll be my F drive, for Big F*cking Drive

late vector
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No cursing pls

hazy bridge
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First amendment lol

whole prawn
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ThIs iS a ChRiStiAn MiNeCrAFt SERVer

hazy bridge
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Screw that

minor sun
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@untold grove Bought a generic m.2 heatsink, I'll update you on if the writes improve after I get the heatsink

untold grove
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hell yea babey

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it copper?

minor sun
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alum

whole prawn
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Random thing how does one know which drive failed in a raid array?

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like if all the drives are all the same model

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how do you know which failed

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or is this a stupid question to ask

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if so i guess im stupid

whole prawn
untold grove
whole prawn
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how does the raid conroller know the serial number?

untold grove
whole prawn
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ohhhhh

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well thats gonna be a pain in the azz because like not all the drives are in hotswap bays
there in multiple places some of them even upside down because wierd hard drive mounts in case

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so putting a serial number on the front of them would be a pain

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would i end up having to do something wierd

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like make a map thing of where each drive is?

untold grove
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i mean

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its whatever

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if u dont have the hotswap it just wont let u keep uptime

whole prawn
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the hotswap bay 3 of the drives are in

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actually isnt hotswap because it was a hotswap bay from the 90

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90's

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so the backplane for it

untold grove
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then it doesnt apply to your use cas

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e

whole prawn
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was all SCSI drives

untold grove
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so dw

whole prawn
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so the hotswap bays arnt hot swappable because its missing the hotswap backplane

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back plane i think its called

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so the bays are more of just a drive cage

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its a very ghetto system

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OOOp issue

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so these drives

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dont have a SN on the label

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da fug do i do

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they dont have a SN anywhere on them

untold grove
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label reveal

whole prawn
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hold on

next glen
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Hi I'm new here and was hoping someone can help me here. I just installed a 2TB Samsung 970 Evo SSD however my computer is seeing it as a 250GB ssd. I am hoping there is a fix to this and not a mislabeled box situation.

untold grove
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then please take a screenshot of what you see

whole prawn
next glen
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Trying to add the picture

untold grove
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that is uh

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not a stock label iirc

whole prawn
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yes

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all i know about these drives are

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is

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A: They are working server pulls
B: Relabeled HGST ultrastar drives

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have used one of these drives before so i know both are true

untold grove
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weird

whole prawn
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just never had to do anything complex with one

untold grove
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well yeah ull never get the correct into off of one of those puppies

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for SN

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at least on the label

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just plug in each drive 1 by 1 and write sn on the label in sharpie

whole prawn
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wont i need a OS for that

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?

next glen
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I am rookie roll so I cant send pictures lol

whole prawn
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send it in dm

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or somethin

untold grove
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whered u get the drive from

next glen
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microcenter

whole prawn
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Goharddrive via there ebay listings

next glen
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oh you may not be talking to me lol

whole prawn
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three sleezy as h3ll

untold grove
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no i am shappy

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dw bb

whole prawn
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*there

untold grove
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and

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congrats u got the wrong drive

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lul

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return

next glen
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rip

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thats what i figured

untold grove
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tfw scammed by microcenter

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go in device manager

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start key and then devmgr

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go to storage

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sorry

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disk drives

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and send me a screenshot of what that bit says

untold grove
whole prawn
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not sure if you can trust the smart data because like i know Goharddrive wipes smart data and defaults everything if the drive had like 60k power on hours they will reset it to say 0 and sell it as new

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there sleezy af

untold grove
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well first off

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dont buy drives from them then?

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second

whole prawn
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there my only option lmao

untold grove
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how

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u just said ebay

whole prawn
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remember broke 15 year old my money goes to whom ever has the lowest prices

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but i have used one of these exact drives before

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worked well

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no issues

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Just never dug indepth into one of these drives

untold grove
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and yeah but like

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eh whatever u already got them

whole prawn
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i know they dont compleatly wipe smart data

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because the drives in device manager come up as

untold grove
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the SN will always be in smart

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but id prefer to like

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for you to check

whole prawn
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Hitachi ultrastars

untold grove
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instead of me guessing what this random ebay scam seller did to the smart data

whole prawn
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it wont be like another 4-5 days before i can check

untold grove
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wtf why

whole prawn
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tommorow at the earliest because thats when the proccessor comes in for this thing

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and also idk how to check SN or anything without being in a OS

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do i just boot to like a linux USB and check it that way or what

lean quest
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Why wouldn’t you have an os

whole prawn
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because the thing isnt even fully assembled yet lmao

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currently it has a little celeron acting as a socket cover for the proccessor

lean quest
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🤔

whole prawn
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i doubt even a bad lightweight would run on a 2004-2005 celeron

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*lightweight os

minor sun
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Linux :P

lean quest
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Yea

whole prawn
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yes linux but if im gonna get a core 2 quad for it tommorow

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as right now it dosent have a cpu cooler or anything installed

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so kinda a waste to put the cooler and paste on

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to only take it back off the next day

lean quest
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True

whole prawn
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to then do the same again

untold grove
whole prawn
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only paste i got kicking around is kryonaut

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and that sh1t is expensive

untold grove
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please dont bypass filter

whole prawn
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ok fair enough

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but a 1gram tube of the stuff is like 12$

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considering the proccessor itself was 7$...

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*the core 2 quad was 7$

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so the paste was more expensive then the proccessor

whole prawn
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what

untold grove
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google it

whole prawn
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also i ordered a Dell prec H710 raid controller

untold grove
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paste

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great

whole prawn
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yea the paste is cheap

untold grove
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i use it on everything that isnt a laptop

whole prawn
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but a core 2 quad is like 105w at stock clock speed

untold grove
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it is insane paste

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floppa uses it on his HOF 570

whole prawn
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and i also plan to try and do that wierd tape overclock thing with socket 775

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so if stock its 105w at 2.4ghz

untold grove
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hell yea babey

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thats nuts

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but

whole prawn
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and the tape overclock is 3.0GHZ... i would imagine it would be like 130-140w or somethin

untold grove
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oh i like that guy

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hes legit as hell

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100%

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thats his branding

whole prawn
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i just see a picture of a rhino lol not sure how thats a drive cage

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*tray

untold grove
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whats the seller

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name

whole prawn
untold grove
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oh yes

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theyre legit

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thats just their branding

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theyre s tier

whole prawn
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interesting branding tho

untold grove
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yeah theyre god tier in lab community

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youll end up getting something from them eventually

whole prawn
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they have some interesting stuff

untold grove
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other s tier seller is me

whole prawn
lean quest
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Oof

untold grove
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wait

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how much did u pay for those drives

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per drive

whole prawn
#

like 40$ a piece

untold grove
#

ok good

#

if u ever need drives again lmk Umaru_wink_FB

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i always like to help other labbers out

whole prawn
#

i dont even know what your store is lmao

#

and what is a labber im dumb

solemn spear
#

hey can someone help me set up my ssd and hdd?

#

plz dm if you can help

untold grove
#

and homelabber

#

aka person with home servers that uses them to do fun things

inner bough
#

okay so I have a question and I'm a little unsure. If I wanted to run two drives, like say a Sabrent Rocket Q 1TB NVMe PCIe M.2 and Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVMe M.2 Internal SSD in raid 0 is that a thing you can do? just interested in the concept rn

lean quest
#

Yea if your mobo supports it

inner bough
#

or do they need to be like same brand

#

okay

lean quest
#

You’re going to be limited by your slowest drive

inner bough
#

Ah okay

#

so it makes best sense to go for the same speed ones

untold grove
#

1 drive fails u lose everything tho

#

so

#

raid 0 is kinda dumb

#

i wouldnt bother

#

youd want 2 tlc ssds for best results

inner bough
#

well i currently only have one drive with everything on it anyway so full send i guess

#

the sabrent one is TLC so i guess if it goes on sale tomorrow for boxing day I'll get it

#

Holy crap its expensive on NewEgg rn

untold grove
#

the rocket q is not tlc

#

the q literally stands for qlc

inner bough
#

oh sorry i was reading the wrong amazon link

#

sorry i do not know everything about reading names and what abstract letters may mean in them lol

sly flume
#

sorry to butt in but do yall have any internal ssd recommendations

untold grove
#

if the sabrent has a white labrl

lean quest
#

Lili going to recommend Samsung XD

untold grove
#

avoid

inner bough
#

Oof

inner bough
#

thats what i have rn 😭

untold grove
sly flume
#

uhhhhhh whats the difference between the two

untold grove
#

nvme fast only works on new stuff

#

sata slow works on old stuff

lean quest
#

Sata big cables nvme sits on mobo

sly flume
#

umm i have a b450i rog strix for mobo

#

ohhhhhhhhhhh

#

do you mean m.2 vs 2.5 inch

untold grove
#

yep

lean quest
#

Yea

sly flume
#

2.5 inch lol

lean quest
#

M2 is going to be nvme and 2.5 inch is sata

sly flume
#

i need to replace a hdd

#

sata

sly flume
#

okay so i also saw this

#

and its a lil cheaper

untold grove
#

get the hynix

sly flume
#

is there a difference

untold grove
#

i dont like wd's nand

lean quest
#

Oof wow no wonder my new drive is so much faster because it’s nvme and my old one was sata

sly flume
#

so like whats wrong with the nand

#

but ill get the hynix

untold grove
#

yeah i never say 2.5 vs m.2 cause theres 2.5 in nvme and m.2 sata

#

i just do nvme vs sata cause its the speedz that matter keeeeek

sly flume
#

HUH

#

ohhhh

#

i just need a 2,5inch

untold grove
#

and watt to answer ur question

sly flume
#

idc if its sata

untold grove
#

it has to be sata for you lol

#

2.5in nvme ssds are like

#

datacenter only

#

i have a few keeeeek

#

but

#

ur fine with the drive i sent

#

its cute and it works well

#

better nand than the wd blue too

sly flume
#

mkay then

#

ill take your word for it

untold grove
#

higher tbw also

#

will last longer

sly flume
#

good enough for me

#

umm so

#

is it gonna be hard transfering the data?

untold grove
#

nope

sly flume
#

awesome

#

thanks broski

untold grove
#

wait are u cloning data over or

#

like cloning os

sly flume
#

data

#

300gb

turbid torrent
#

I fried my nvme ssd with liquid metal, anyone know of good bang for the buck 500gb nvme ssds?

torpid adder
#

O o f

#

MP34, SN750

#

I wonder if the 970 Evo is at a good price still

ebon rampart
#

any recomendations for a cheap usb 3.0 stick with 32 gb?

ashen aurora
#

take the cheapest one?

frosty condor
#

Hey guys, asking for a friend, does anyone know what the fastest read/write sata ssd is? Just from browsing, it looks like the 860 evo, but I'm not sure. He doesn't have any m.2 slots, so sata is really his only option

frosty condor
#

He doesn’t have a slot lol

#

Man’s running a b365

#

Single PCIE slot

dusk turtle
#

not PCI-E x16

#

The small ones

#

Should have 2-3 of them

frosty condor
#

Hmm

#

Aight, I’ll check

#

I’ll try and get him to specify the model as well

thick mulch
#

also, dont rule out used m.2_pcie adapters

heady raven
#

that would help, because b356 is not automatically a single pci-e board :)

thick mulch
#

some high end MOBOs come w them and most dont need them

#

oh wait rlly?!

#

oh, damn

#

than an 860 pro is the best you can do

#

samsung is always good

jaunty gull
#

I’m looking at the Qnap TVS-h1688x. Why is it $500 more on Newegg than listed MSRP?

dusk turtle
#

Probably because it's not Sold and Shipped by Newegg

#

Third party seller

untold grove
#

EVER

#

Their software is SO BAD it kills drives and theres so many security holes

#

Please just get synology

minor sun
#

going down further

#

sad

untold grove
#

uh oh

#

im so scared that that @jaunty gull person is gonna get a qnap

#

theyre so bad

thick mulch
#

just curious do you know if the adata swordfish has a Dram cache?

minor sun
#

no

#

it's hmb

thick mulch
#

oh, how much worse is that?

dusk turtle
#

Depends on if the ADATA you get is actually what they advertise

#

They got caught doing the old switcheroo

untold grove
#

never adata

#

tbh

#

so many other ppl making drives nowadays

thick mulch
#

yeah, I got it on sale at a pretty good price

untold grove
#

how good

#

unless it was like 80 for 1tb or smth

thick mulch
#

I would not usally recommend them

#

I dont remember

untold grove
#

friend rolled out hundreds of adata drives

#

after 2 years

#

60% fail rate

#

never adata

thick mulch
#

damnn

jaunty gull
untold grove
#

Qnap is ass

#

Synology is not

#

Ask anyone who knows anything

rare anvil
#

can anyone help me with swapping windows to my ssd i just installed my ssd

untold grove
#

What ssd?

rare anvil
#

idk what its called but its a 1 tb ssd that installed after the hardrive

#

so im trying to put windows on the ssd and transfer some stuff to it'

untold grove
#

I am aware

#

Im asking who made it because some manufacturers offer cloning software

rare anvil
#

its a crucial p1 m.2

untold grove
#

Just use clonezilla

#

Enjoy

whole prawn
#

anyone know of any pieces of linux software that like

#

allows you to

#

Like do a bunch of random read and writes to a drive like as a burnin test thing?

#

since i have dealing with sleezy drives so might as well give them a good stressing

untold grove
#

I use hard disk sentinel

#

To test drives

#

I swear by it

whole prawn
#

Lol so all the drives are showing in the OS the smart data reads as OK
but at the same time it also says the power on hours are 0
and it also confirms all of these drives are Hitashi Ultrastars

#

also one is formating at 30MB/s while the others are doing 50MB/s

untold grove
whole prawn
#

but i also have one of them connected to a sketcy sata controller

untold grove
#

sounds like drives i sell omegalul

#

except i dont wipe smart

whole prawn
#

well they sell these things as brand new so they wipe the smart data

untold grove
#

yeah i dont sell new

#

cause im not a scammer keeeek

#

next time u need drives come to me lol

whole prawn
#

is 50c bad for a hard drive?

untold grove
#

my drives are like

whole prawn
#

this isnt a server case so i dont have many fans

#

whoa it just went up to 55c

#

ill ziptie a fan to the back of it soon

#

but at the same time

#

its also doing a complete format so i would imagine it to be stressed right now

#

oh god 62c

minor sun
#

heatsink time

dusk turtle
#

HD heatsink?

#

Are those a thing?

minor sun
#

I think so

whole prawn
#

but at the same time this thing is a random old dell

#

with like 7 drives thrown into it

#

all of which are being 0 filled and formated at once

#

my god

#

65ccccc

#

HOLY S..

#

i need a FAN

#

like now lol

untold grove
minor sun
#

nah just get a u12s

#

and cut the heatpipes off

#

and just slap it on

untold grove
#

oh true

#

u need to cool the platter directly omegalul

minor sun
#

:P

#

or just like only get a coldplate

untold grove
#

i wonder

#

like could u do water cooled hdd

minor sun
#

prob can

untold grove
#

wait

minor sun
#

@untold grove I bet there's some waterblock

#

HAHAHAHA

untold grove
#

now we just need to oc the hdd

whole prawn
#

this thing reached 63c so i got worried and just turned it off

#

ima zip tie fans to it

untold grove
#

looks at some of my drives that are hitting 75c

whole prawn
#

DUck i just ordered something and kinda messed up the order

#

i ordered a fan adapter thing so i can put fans everywhere in this thing..

#

But i also ordered zipties

#

Not realizing its 18LB's of ducking zipties

#

ill have zipties for life now

untold grove
whole prawn
#

AnYoNe NeeD sOme ZiPtiEs?

whole prawn
#

so anyone know does a slow cpu affect raid rebuild times

#

when you have a hardware raid controller

#

?

untold grove
#

not enough to care abt

#

However, there is one catch. The size of the RAID array matters when it becomes big, 10+ drives or more. No matter if you use hardware- or software- based RAID, the processor must read the contents of all drives simultaneously and use that information to rebuild the replaced drive. When creating a large RAID array, such as in my storage array, with 20 disks, the check and rebuild of the array becomes CPU-bound.

This is because the CPU must process 1,1 GB/s (as in gigabyte!) of data and use that data stream to rebuild that single drive. Using 1 TB drives, it checks or rebuilds the array at about 50 MB/s, which is less than half what the drives are capable of (100+ MB/s). Top shows that indeed the CPU is almost saturated (95%). Please note that a check or rebuild of my storage server takes about 5 hours currently, but that could be way shorter if the CPU was not saturated.

whole prawn
#

so a Pentium D at 2.8GHZ 2x pentium 4's glued together wont be a issue for a 7 drive array?

untold grove
#

youll be alright

#

i envision something else failing in ur dumpster fire setup long before the drives do

#

and its a 5 drive array

whole prawn
#

lol i ordered 2 more drives they will be here in a week

untold grove
#

lmao

whole prawn
#

so once all the stuff gets here
it will be a
random dell
with a 2.8GHZ pentium D
8GB of DDR2
7x 3TB drives (configured in raid 6)
a 500w Rosewill PSU
a Dell prec H710 raid controller

untold grove
#

what are you even storing

whole prawn
#

Lots of things

#

:)

untold grove
#

like?

whole prawn
#

Movies which i definitely payed for
things legally a 15 year old isnt supposed to have
applications
etc

#

probally games to because games are massive now

untold grove
#

well enjoy ig

whole prawn
#

lmao

rugged socket
#

does anyone have experience with the intel 660p 2.048 tb nvme ssd?

short night
#

Hello

thick mulch
#

hi

cerulean depot
untold grove
#

good drive

cerulean depot
#

I was looking at that one as well. Why is it better? Durability?

untold grove
#

more trusted brand

#

if you want the best drive out there rn though

#

this is the drive to get

cerulean depot
#

Nah that one is overkill and out of my price range. Thanks though

untold grove
#

well its the best

#

id get the mp34

#

mushkin kinda sketchy imo

cerulean depot
#

Lmao alright

lean horizon
#

Are SeaGate Barracudas reliable for long-term storage?

#

For context, I'm in the middle of a NAS build

minor sun
#

Lili would prob point you towards HGST if possible for a NAS build, WD otherwise

#

Barracuda's failure rates don't look good

untold grove
#

hgst if ur ok with used drives

#

if u arent

#

easystore shuck time

#

or reds if u rly want non white label

#

NEVER use consumer drives for a nas though

#

unless u want a bad time

lean horizon
#

I've considered shucking before...

whole prawn
#

lol
White label HGST flashbacks
Realizes im actively using White label HGST's
Starts crying in terror

untold grove
#

every hgst is white label keeeek

untold grove
whole prawn
#

whats shucking im dumb

lean horizon
#

take external HDD

untold grove
lean horizon
#

remove HDD

whole prawn
#

thats the dumbest thing i have heard of but it sounds fun

lean horizon
#

I never fully understood it myself

untold grove
whole prawn
#

fair enough not gonna say your wrong

whole prawn
#

thats the dumbest thing ihave seen in awhile

#

wtf why are they so cheap in the enclosure thingys

untold grove
#

reds that didnt meat tolerances to be actual reds

#

plus no one buys the big drives like that so no reason to make another sku

whole prawn
#

so are those reds less reliable then normal reds or what

untold grove
#

not enough to care abt

whole prawn
#

i have something cursed to say

#

i put krynoaut on my grandmas i3 laptop
and let me mention that i also installed linux onto grandmas laptop :)

untold grove
#

poor grandma

#

for a while my grandma had a xeon workstation with like 16 cores

#

facebook FLEW on 64gb ram

whole prawn
#

kek

#

wait why are red drives 5400 rpm and designated for NAS's

#

are like higher rpm drives bad for nas?

wary mantle
#

@whole prawn 5400 is fine because of high density platters for home nas

#

red drives are basically their entry level consumer drives with different firmware and a higher price tag

untold grove
#

5400 is superior because less vibration and power draw

#

also less heat output

wary mantle
#

thats true too

untold grove
#

i have never had the need or the want to go higher

wary mantle
#

modern 5400 drives read/write much faster than older 5400 drives tho

untold grove
#

and red drives are nas drives and have higher on time rating

#

they arent "basically blues"

wary mantle
#

red drives are just relabeled green drives with different firmware

untold grove
#

literally false but ok

#

the only rebadged drives wd makes are purples

whole prawn
#

whats next a RGB drive?

untold grove
#

which are red drives with firmware that focuses on 24/7 write

untold grove
wary mantle
#

Overall, the differences between WD Green and Red drives are very subtle. From a noise, power draw, and performance standpoint Green and Red drives are pretty much identica

untold grove
#

2014

#

ok keeeek

whole prawn
#

red=nas blue=consumer black=consumer performance purple=surveillance gold=enterprise
wheres green

wary mantle
#

they phased out green, introduced red and marked up 20%

untold grove
#

they phased out green because greens had insane fail rates and poor qc

wary mantle
#

because of TLER...

#

which is the main reason to buy reds

whole prawn
#

da fug is TLER

untold grove
#

and half the load/unload cycles

#

and the no MTBF

#

and the higher acoustics

#

almost like theyre different drives

whole prawn
#

only thing that you have said that i understood is
MTBF thats the only thing i know lmao

untold grove
#

greens were trash tier and wd killed them to preserve ther brand rep

#

every other hoarder ive ever talked to doesnt trust greens

#

because we've all had arrays die

#

i had 4x 3tb greens that just died one day lol

#

they arent good drives and reds arent a rebadge

wary mantle
#

maybe that changed idk but thats how it originally was

#

i only buy white labels now since its so cheap

untold grove
#

i mean same here lol

#

and yes 2014 reds were uh

#

not good

#

modern ones are nothing like greens

#

although if i were buying new id get toshiba/golds

whole prawn
#

is it dumb to use a enterprise drive in a GAYming pc

untold grove
#

i just get defensive because rn its basically seagate vs wd and i dont want to see ppl end up with seagates keeeek

wary mantle
#

i havnt had a single toshiba failure that was made with hitachi ip

untold grove
#

exactly

#

hitachi drives are built different

#

literally keeeek

wary mantle
#

same with the 5k3000

untold grove
#

like my entire 200tb array is hitachi

whole prawn
#

whats different about hitachis

untold grove
#

save for like 60tb of reds

wary mantle
#

hitachi made higher quality consumer drives than the others

#

HGST is not the same tho

whole prawn
#

i thought HGST and Hitachi are the same

wary mantle
#

toshiba 3.5 drives were based off the old hitachi ip due to anti trust wd buyout

#

HGST is post wd hitachi purchase, they arnt the same as hitachi

untold grove
#

100% trust them more than others and for big drives its the best you can really get

whole prawn
#

so are HGST drives even still in production then i saw something on wikipedia about them not being in production anymore

untold grove
#

iirc no

whole prawn
#

Really the only thing that as a dumb person who knows nothing more about a HDD besides they have some spinny things in them
that said QUALITY to me was the fact they had ties to IBM lmao

wary mantle
#

im not buying more drives until 18tb easystore go under $280

whole prawn
#

thats the only thing that really makes me think quality about them lmao

untold grove
#

how big is ur array?

wary mantle
#

600tb but i havnt upgraded in a few years

untold grove
#

theres like 2 other hoarders here asd it makes me sad

#

niceeee

#

honestly keeping most of my stuff in cloud nowadays

wary mantle
#

waiting for 26 18tb drives to swap out the 26 2tb

untold grove
#

thats where its at

#

as soon as i can get 18tb easystores for sub 280 im planning on replacing all my 4-3tb drives in my jbods

#

aiming for 2pb in the next few years

wary mantle
#

i luckily havnt had a need for more storage this year since live music is pretty much dead

#

no new video work :/

untold grove
#

oh you use ur array for work?

wary mantle
#

half work half homelab

#

we have 3pb in the cloud but ive got around 250tb of work files at home

untold grove
#

niceeeee

#

my stuff is 100% recreational lol

#

i just also happen to sell stuff to some labbers

#

if u need epycs lmk 😉

wary mantle
#

im good, friend hooked me up with 8 7702 for pretty much nothing

#

4x dual 2670 to 4x dual 7702 was a 1000% boost in performance

untold grove
#

lmao niceeeeee

#

lotta threads hehe

wary mantle
#

yeah its nuts, the most expensive part was the ram tho

untold grove
#

god tier lab

#

oh i can imagine

#

how much ram you got there?

wary mantle
#

each only only has 256 but max is 8tb i think for the boards

untold grove
#

yeah u can go nuts on the ram

zealous turret
#

My Optiplex has a 500 GB, its pretty bad overall and I don't have money for a new computer at the moment

untold grove
#

well you dont need a new pc just a new drive

red jay
#

is it normal my m2 ssd temperature is 40c 🤔

untold grove
#

Yes

red jay
#

when should i worry about ?

untold grove
#

60+

red jay
#

thanks 😇

patent zealot
#

i got a 860 evo 1tb and where would the sata cables be located

untold grove
patent zealot
#

Oky ty

untold grove
#

Ssds dont come with sata cables

#

Well some might but samsung units do not

patent zealot
#

Okay thank you i dumped all my unused pc parts and psu connecters in a box so ill go look for them

untold grove
#

Lol np

red jay
#

umm one little question too . i got b450 aorus elite . I just installed 2nd m2 ssd and one of my hdd gone . i have 3 sata drives uh

untold grove
#

They share bandwidth with m.2

#

Try a diff sata port

red jay
#

i did . non of 4 slots not working uh

#

i wonder i have just 2 sata if i plug 2 m2 ?

untold grove
#

You might, check ur board docs

upper quiver
#

no, not really

dusk turtle
#

No, that's QLC, get the black label Sabrent

open palm
#

question so I recently got a 970 evo and I already have a boot drive how do I get the 970 evo as my boot drive without loosing data?

thick mulch
#

Ok, it is easy. Download mobi-mover US and select clone. Mark the target and host drive and then let it copy. And boom, you have 2 bootable drives! @open palm

#

After that boot to the 970 in bios and then you might have to assign the old one a drive path in part.manager to get it to show up but then you can do what you want!

red jay
#

Best 1tb ssd under 100usd?

dusk turtle
#

mmmm

austere shore
#

I don't know about that one chief

untold grove
#

here then

#

i just grab the direct link so i dont have people asking me where the download button is

sly flume
#

my ssd gets here today pog

chrome verge
#

Hey guys, I bought a 12TB External Drive to hook up to my router via USB... but now I’m thinking of returning it and looking into getting my first NAS. I’d appreciate anyone’s opinion on where to start. There’s a lot of information out there... 2 bay NAS in RAID1? Is Synology a good way to start? I do have an old computer tower but it’s big and takes up space. Currently have a router that supports link aggregation.

dusk turtle
#

@untold grove

untold grove
#

ok so

#

first off 2 bay is kind of a waste of money imo

#

imo 5 bay is the way to go

#

you get 4 data drives and 1 parity

#

with 2 bay youre stuck with either chopping your usable storage in half to have parity

#

or (even worse) getting all the storage on offer but losing out when it comes to reliability

#

if one drive fails in a raid 0

#

all the data is gone

keen lantern
#

Exactly why we have lili. I'll agree with her tho if I had the money I would get a 5 bay NAS because of what she mentioned earlier.

untold grove
#

the thing is

#

even a 2 bay synology nas is 400