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minor sun Aug 27, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Do keep in mind one is a M.2 NVMe drive, and the other is a 2.5in SATA drive

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(NVMe is much faster than SATA, M.2 and 2.5in is just the size and stuff)

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The P1.

somber remnant Aug 27, 2020, 9:07 PM

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was p2 or p1 with dram

uncut bramble Aug 27, 2020, 9:18 PM

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P1 has dram iirc

minor sun Aug 27, 2020, 9:32 PM

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p2 has hmb

somber remnant Aug 27, 2020, 9:58 PM

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so p1 > p2 right?

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usually

minor sun Aug 27, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Yea

somber remnant Aug 27, 2020, 9:58 PM

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alr i keep getting confused

minor sun Aug 27, 2020, 9:58 PM

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P1 is QLC Dram

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P2 is TLC HMB

open gazelle Aug 27, 2020, 11:04 PM

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I believe the P series suffered from the controller the most. Don't really remember tho

upper quiver Aug 27, 2020, 11:18 PM

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yeah, p1 and 2 are decent, but really only worth it when theyre on sale

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so if someone has a 600 dollar budget, and the P2 is 20 dollars off, i suggest it

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but otherwise, its worth the extra few dollars for the mp34, or sn750 or MP 510

viral bolt Aug 27, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Pretty soon I'm gonna have about $100 I think that I want to spend on a storage device. Windows is currently installed on a 1tb Sata 2.5" SSD, I want something faster for games, but should I reinstall windows on my newer drive? and what's a decent 1tb NVME drive that's not too far away from the $100 mark?

round echo Aug 27, 2020, 11:34 PM

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crucial p1 1tb is $105

minor sun Aug 27, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Yes

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P1 is good

round echo Aug 27, 2020, 11:34 PM

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wd blue 1tb is 104

somber remnant Aug 27, 2020, 11:34 PM

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reinstall windows on the 1tb nvme

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its giving up performance if u dont

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blue is dramless afaik

round echo Aug 27, 2020, 11:36 PM

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also the sn550 1tb is like $104 as well

zenith condor Aug 27, 2020, 11:37 PM

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i found a WD Blue nvme 500gb for 80 bucks

round echo Aug 27, 2020, 11:39 PM

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i'd probably just get the p1

minor sun Aug 27, 2020, 11:42 PM

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uhh

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@zenith condor you sure it's NVMe?

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and also that's pretty overpriced

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Blue is usually SATA

zenith condor Aug 27, 2020, 11:42 PM

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i checked amazon

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lol

minor sun Aug 27, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Anyways great 500gb NVMe drives are 70$

open gazelle Aug 27, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Blue 3D is the NVMe iirc. Standard Blue is SATA

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Hey Guys I need help

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I have an NVME SSD and I want to install it on my Mobo which is X570 Aorus Master. There are three spots to install the NVME

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The first and second slot are much larger than the third one. But I think I am supposed to use the first slot. Thing is that my storage device is alot shorter than it

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These holes are for the standoffs. But my SSD will only line up to the hole I am pointing to. How do I install this SSD M.2 whole also putting the heat sink on? The problem is that the heat sink mounting point lines up with a hole that is different than the hole to mount the SSD

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@upper quiver @minor sun you guys always help lmao 😂

upper quiver Aug 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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HE READS THE MANUAL!!!

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HE IS THE CHOSEN ONE!

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lmao

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Lmaooo

upper quiver Aug 28, 2020, 1:53 AM

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in all seriousness, typically the slot closest to the cpu uses pcie lanes right from the cpu

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you wanna use that one

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the 1st slot supports up to 22110 M.2s, but the heatspreadder is whats actually gonna hold the ssd down

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so, just slap the heatspreader over the ssd and screw it down and your set

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 1:55 AM

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So do I have to mount the SSD to the motherboard? The issue is that the heat sink is a lot longer than the SSD

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here I will show

upper quiver Aug 28, 2020, 1:55 AM

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oh, now that i look closer at the manual image, i think it still does screw down

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oh, psh i dumm

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the motherboard should come with extra ssd standoffs

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 1:56 AM

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So that picture shows where the SSD would mount into a hole

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The NEXT picture will show where the HEATSINK would mount into a hole

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upper quiver Aug 28, 2020, 1:59 AM

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yeah, look for a small bag in the motherboard box

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Yes for a stand-off right?

upper quiver Aug 28, 2020, 2:05 AM

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yeah, it should be pretty small

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if not, check the other slots for a preinstalled standoff

viral bolt Aug 28, 2020, 2:39 AM

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So is p1 1tb a decent nvme drive or should I go for a 500gb Samsung nvme?

minor sun Aug 28, 2020, 2:39 AM

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P1 is decent

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Samsung is overpriced

viral bolt Aug 28, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Assuming I can't wander to high over $100

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Think I'd be happier with a higher end 500 vs a decent 1tb?

minor sun Aug 28, 2020, 2:40 AM

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No

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You'll more likely regret it xD

viral bolt Aug 28, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Haha fair

minor sun Aug 28, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Just keep in mind a Samsung 970evo 500gb at 100$ delivers speeds and endurance similar to 70$ 500gb drives such as the SN750 and MP34

viral bolt Aug 28, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Ok. And the p1 won't be as fast but will it have decent endurance?

minor sun Aug 28, 2020, 2:41 AM

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There's also diminishing return once you go past I'd say 1GB/s, where the differences become a lot less noticeable.

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Well, P1 is like 2GB/s read/write, something like the 970 evo is like 3GB/s read/write

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P1 does suffer as it has QLC, so once you run through the cache, you'll get slowed down by a lot, but that's very unlikely in day to day work, as the cache is something like 30GB iirc

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Approx 12-100GB cache

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So unless you like writing 30GB files around, it'll be a good drive

viral bolt Aug 28, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Well I mean

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The new call of duty is 127gb

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And I have a 1gig connection

upper quiver Aug 28, 2020, 3:08 AM

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does your pc have a gigabit connection, or does your ISP give you a gigabit connection?

viral bolt Aug 28, 2020, 3:45 AM

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It's a Z390-A prime

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B&h says it has a Gigibit lan controller

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And it's connected to a 5gig port on my modem/routee

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 10:23 AM

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If my motherboard has two M2 slots, is one of them going to be slower if I use both? Trying to figure out if I should buy a smaller nvme right now, save some money for my build and just add more storage to the other slot later or just stick with 1

gloomy ferry Aug 28, 2020, 10:51 AM

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that depends on the specs of the motherboard in part but in general one will have more pcie lanes dedicated to it than another

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 10:56 AM

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So it's better to have 1 than 2?

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Would be a z490 MSI gaming edge wifi

gloomy ferry Aug 28, 2020, 11:02 AM

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if I'm looking at the right one it says both have 4 pci lanes so it doesn't matter

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 11:21 AM

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Ah ok thanks
This pci lane stuff is confusing to me lol

minor sun Aug 28, 2020, 11:35 AM

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@red jay more m.2 slots the better

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Esp on x570 where all chipset lanes are pcie 4.0

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 11:39 AM

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I mean I was asking if it matters how many slots I use, if it affects the performance of the ssds
Bc they're kinda pricy and I'm wondering if I should just buy a smaller 1 for now and upgrade later

minor sun Aug 28, 2020, 11:44 AM

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It doesn't affect the performance of the SSDs

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they use separate lanes

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and with PCIe 4.0 chipset lanes, x570 boards can support more PCIe 3.0 drives

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or run 4.0x2

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For example, this is the x570 unify @red jay

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red jay Aug 28, 2020, 11:54 AM

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Well I'll be on a z490 probably
But that means both ssds will run at full speed that's good
Thanks

minor sun Aug 28, 2020, 12:03 PM

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SOME boards do shared lanes with M.2 with sata, not too many, mostly lower end boards

vivid ginkgo Aug 28, 2020, 3:15 PM

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disk 1: kingston 110 gb ssd
disk 2: maxtor 250 gb hdd

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 6:37 PM

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ok so i recently found out that i have a ssd but my computer isn't registering it. I have a theory as to why and its probably that but i wanted to confirm here. The ssd is currently connected to a cable labeled hdd so im guessing thats why its not registering. is it?

heady raven Aug 28, 2020, 6:37 PM

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no

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@red jay you on windows?

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 6:37 PM

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ye windows 10

heady raven Aug 28, 2020, 6:37 PM

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right click your start button, select disk management

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in the window that opens, scroll down

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you will most likely have a drive that is "grey"

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 6:39 PM

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it popped up saying i have to initialize a disk before logical disk manager can access it

heady raven Aug 28, 2020, 6:40 PM

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aye

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let it do that

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 6:40 PM

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should i choose MBR or GPT

heady raven Aug 28, 2020, 6:40 PM

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GPT

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 6:41 PM

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it said a device which not exists was specified oof

heady raven Aug 28, 2020, 6:41 PM

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can you send me a screenshot of that?

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winkey + shift + S <- that is the snippet tool that can capture what you select on the screen

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and you are going to have to paste it in a pm to me

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because our bot wont allow you to post picture here until you have gotten to rank3

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(its our anti spam)

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 6:43 PM

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alright

eternal mirage Aug 28, 2020, 7:20 PM

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red jay Aug 28, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Changedual keeps posting those two lines, and nothing else.

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red jay Aug 28, 2020, 10:00 PM

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is team gx1 better than kingston a400? looking for a cheap ssd

cursive cairn Aug 28, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Anyone have an complaints about using add-in card SSD? Motherboard has 3 card plug ins so I know one will be for the graphics card, another one for a sound card. But worried about taking the last slot for the SSD In case I ever needed it for anything else

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 10:13 PM

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looking for a decent low budget 250 GB SSD

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which are good ones?

red jay Aug 28, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Why is the mp34 1tb so cheap? What's wrong with it?

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Not a thing

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That I know of anyway

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Just looks ugly?

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Perfect for hiding under a heat sink

minor sun Aug 29, 2020, 2:08 AM

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@red jay I mean it's not that cheap, like Crucial P1 1tb is 105$, SN750 1tb is 130$, it's just a bit cheaper than a sn750

earnest patrol Aug 29, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Hey guys i have a acer aspire 7741z and want to get a ssd drive can I get any of them as long as its a 2.5 sata

red jay Aug 29, 2020, 3:23 PM

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quick question, is SSD required even if i have an HDD?

heady raven Aug 29, 2020, 3:26 PM

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its is not a requirement.

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but it IS a big quality of life improvement for using the system

sullen current Aug 29, 2020, 4:46 PM

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i want to install a hard drive onto my pc. i currently only have a 500gb ssd. is it difficult to transfer all my games, apps, and other things from the ssd to the hard drive?

heady raven Aug 29, 2020, 4:46 PM

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@sullen current so, you are keeping the OS on the ssd?

sullen current Aug 29, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Yes

heady raven Aug 29, 2020, 4:47 PM

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well, steam games are fairly easy to transfer

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most regular apps dont take kindly to just getting "moved"

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as for documents etc, its a one time setup you do and things work from that point onwards

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that is an example of how it looks on this machine @sullen current

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C: is a ssd

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and F is a HDD

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the advantage of setting it up like that is when you press instal in steam, it will ask you where you want to install

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so it is just a question of "does the game benefit from being on a SSD?"

sullen current Aug 29, 2020, 4:52 PM

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i usually play adventure games and a few fps. i mostly use my pc for video editing.

heady raven Aug 29, 2020, 4:52 PM

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the question above is something you have to figure out on your own.

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I play a bit of Path Of Exile, and that game is on a ssd, because it really likes that

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but a game like factorio? that can easily be on a hdd

sullen current Aug 29, 2020, 4:54 PM

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ah okay. i dont know if it's different for every pc but once i install the hdd, will it just show up in my finder or will my pc give me a notif about it?

heady raven Aug 29, 2020, 4:55 PM

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you are on windows 10 @sullen current ?

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well, it doesnt matter much what windows version. Just right click the start button, select disk management.

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find the new drive in the list (it will be grey)

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click it and format it.

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GPT is the type you want. and then it will show up in windows

sullen current Aug 29, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Okie ty!

heady raven Aug 29, 2020, 4:58 PM

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you are very welcome :) best of luck :)

wary cradle Aug 30, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Sabrent 2TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal SSD Maximum Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-2TB)

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So im looking into getting an m.2 card but not sure which one to get

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I was looking at that one but im sure i can get something good and cheaper

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Any recommendations?

red jay Aug 30, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Could someone help me with my ssd

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I just now put in some more ram on my computer and when i load into bios all the ram is accounted for but now ig says it can’t find a proper boot device

minor sun Aug 30, 2020, 12:52 AM

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@wary cradle
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TY2TN64

wicked flame Aug 30, 2020, 8:57 AM

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Is this pc good
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700x, A 7nm architecture , 8 core, 16 threads with a base clock speed of 3.6 Ghz and Overclocked Speeds of upto 4.4 Ghz, With default TDP of 65W and Max temp of 95°C.
Graphics card Gigabyte RTX 2080 Super, 8 Gb of VRAM and 3 Fans
Motherboard Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard
CPU Cooler Corsair Hydro Series H100i RGB PLATINUM 240mm Liquid CPU Cooler

RAM Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
ROM Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
PSU Corsair RM (2019) 750 W, 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Case Corsair iCUE 220T, RGB Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Smart Case — White

torpid adder Aug 30, 2020, 9:27 AM

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pls don't spam ;)

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@wicked flame

uneven jackal Aug 31, 2020, 3:43 AM

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That pc is very good

small ice Aug 31, 2020, 4:41 AM

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What’s some good ram and ssd could I get

high frost Aug 31, 2020, 4:41 AM

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it depends on ur cpu for ram

small ice Aug 31, 2020, 4:41 AM

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I5

high frost Aug 31, 2020, 4:41 AM

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what generation

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well anyways for intel any 16 gig kit of 3200 speed ram cas latency 16 is good

raven dagger Aug 31, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Crucial mx500 2.5”s and m.2 evo plus is fair enough to me

high frost Aug 31, 2020, 4:42 AM

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also u shoulda asked that in #cpus-mobo-and-memory

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about the ram

small ice Aug 31, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Oh sorry ☹️

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Thanks tho

high frost Aug 31, 2020, 4:42 AM

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np

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just saying

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most ssds are pretty good

small ice Aug 31, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Like?

high frost Aug 31, 2020, 4:43 AM

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i mean most of them will offer great boot times

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just make sure they're from reliable manufaturers

raven dagger Aug 31, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Like the crucial mx500; cheap 1TB 2.5” SSD. The difference for game loading is marginal

small ice Aug 31, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Thanks

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I’m kinda new to this pc stuff

raven dagger Aug 31, 2020, 4:44 AM

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You can also go on UserBenchmark and see what other people think; I use that to compare products usually

gilded shard Aug 31, 2020, 6:30 AM

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hello everyone

torpid adder Aug 31, 2020, 7:35 AM

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vroom

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top is Barracuda 1TB
bottom is Blue 3D NAND 500GB

robust goblet Aug 31, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Just finished building my 1st computer.
I purchased 4x -16gb RAM DDR4 @ 3,200
When I look in CPU-Z, it doesn't appear I'm hitting speeds
Anybody know how to adjust or fix this?

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viral bolt Aug 31, 2020, 5:36 PM

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You're hitting 2133mhz (1064.5*2 = double data rate = DDR)

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You need to go into your bios and activate xmp or whatever the AMD equivalent is depending on your CPU.

What CPU and Motherboard do you have?

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And I guess you're actually hitting 2129mhz, which may be the highest frequency under 2133 that is mathematically possible with your particular sticks.

robust goblet Aug 31, 2020, 5:53 PM

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You need to go into your bios and activate xmp or whatever the AMD equivalent is depending on your CPU.

What CPU and Motherboard do you have?
@viral bolt Motherboard = Tuf X570-Plus (wi-fi)
CPU = Ryzen 9 3900x
Ram = Trident Z CL 16-18-18-38 1.35v

viral bolt Aug 31, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Ok reboot your computer and hit the key to enter your motherboard bios before your computer boots all the way

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Usually 'delete' or 'f2'

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But it should tell you briefly at the bottom of the screen before windows loads

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Then enable 'docp' in the bios. Not sure where the setting is, you may want to look through your motherboard manual or watch a video tutorial.

robust goblet Aug 31, 2020, 6:03 PM

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awesome, thank you @viral bolt

viral bolt Aug 31, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Did you get it running at 3200?

robust goblet Aug 31, 2020, 6:28 PM

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I haven't tried just yet. I'm thinking I want to add an M.2 SSD for boot up only, as I'm using just plain SSD right now. Trying to see which M2 is worth the purchase, since I won't need must GB if I only use it for boot up

viral bolt Aug 31, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Yeah depends what you want to spend. A lot of people recommend the crucial p1, especially at $100 for 1tb, it's hard to beat that price and performance

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What I want to know is, will downloading 227gb that is now call of duty: modern warfare (with warzone) on a fiber connection with a 1 gig port to my PC blow up that drive.

somber remnant Aug 31, 2020, 8:40 PM

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no it won't

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p sure newer ssds are meant for those types of things

heady raven Aug 31, 2020, 8:41 PM

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a 1gig port is only at theoretical max 125/sec

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and it wont really get close to that

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and that speed is something that even a HDD can handle

viral bolt Aug 31, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Thought a 1gig port could handle...1gig

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Is this one of those MBps / mbps things were one of us is talking about 1/8th of the bandwidth the other is?

heady raven Aug 31, 2020, 9:53 PM

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aye

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mbit vs mbyte

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gigabit vs gigabyte

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1gig port = 1 gigabit = 125megabytes

viral bolt Aug 31, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Ok so my fiber is 940 megabits per second and the p1 can write up to 1,700 megabytes per second or 13,600 megabits

heady raven Aug 31, 2020, 9:54 PM

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aye

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ofc, there is overhead and things like that

viral bolt Aug 31, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Can it sustain that for an hour

heady raven Aug 31, 2020, 9:55 PM

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the ssd?

viral bolt Aug 31, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Yeah

heady raven Aug 31, 2020, 9:55 PM

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something as low as 1gbit? yes

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also, its a serial string

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its not random data being thrown all over the place

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its a "nice" lump coming in one bit at a time

viral bolt Aug 31, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Ok so it looks for space to put everything then dumps it in a set amount of blocks in one location

heady raven Aug 31, 2020, 9:57 PM

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not quite, but yes

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close enough :)

soft pebble Aug 31, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Hey! I just built a new PC and transfered over my raid array from the old one. However it doesn't boot. Would anyone be willing to help me set it up?

worn holly Sep 1, 2020, 12:59 AM

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My nvme drive wiggles a bit when I put it in all the way, is that normal?

lunar lodge Sep 1, 2020, 2:19 AM

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i think so

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until you screw it down it is still moveable

torpid adder Sep 1, 2020, 7:41 AM

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how frequently should I TRIM a drive if I set it to manual optimization 😳

heady raven Sep 1, 2020, 1:27 PM

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@torpid adder you should let the OS handle that

primal falcon Sep 1, 2020, 1:59 PM

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yo quick question, is there any noticable difference between dram-less SSD and like a 4000mb cache ssd?

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im hearing from some that its negligable, but from others that it significantly speeds up day to day smaller tasks

torpid adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:00 PM

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https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-10-2004-optimizationdefrag-bug/4c5498b9-04fe-41c9-8535-ed10313b6f33 oh it's just a 2004 thing ok

Windows 10 2004 optimization/defrag bug

Hi all I've just completed the Windows 10 2004 upgrade and I have noticed 2 issues. 1. When I manually trim my SSD in the drive defrag/optimize tool in windows and I reboot it says 'never optimized'

normal escarp Sep 1, 2020, 2:29 PM

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So i was looking up SSD's that goes into a PCI-E slot and see a company near me selling a M.2 2280 Samsung 1TB drive and was trying to understand where these hard drives would install into my motherboard which is an ASUS Prime B450 Plus. Link is for the picture of the motherboard
https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-b450-plus/p/N82E16813119138?item=9SIAFVFA8B8902&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googlemkp-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googlemkp-pc-_-pla-deal+targets-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-9SIAFVFA8B8902&gclid=CjwKCAjw4rf6BRAvEiwAn2Q76lMKUicah6nedH-RtWxOeD8Xo8PpphNTvhLmaK3lg7TTZ13HW4HG0hoCNukQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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i do see there's a slot specifically for this kind of hard drive in those pictures and wondered if it'll be installed like horizontally or will it be like a very thin Memory sticking up from the motherboard like the memory does?

primal falcon Sep 1, 2020, 2:37 PM

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that board has 1 m.2 socket, right above the top pci-e slot

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also its really simple installing theres tons of guides,

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just look up m.2 installation guide

normal escarp Sep 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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@primal falcon thanks, i'll go and do that then (^ ^)

primal falcon Sep 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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np

heady raven Sep 1, 2020, 2:47 PM

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@normal escarp you are asking about 2 different types of SSD'

primal falcon Sep 1, 2020, 2:48 PM

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i think he just means m.2 so i assumed that

heady raven Sep 1, 2020, 2:48 PM

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the first type you asked about is a PCI-e based on <- this goes into a slot similar to the one your graphicscard goes into.

The second type goes into the m.2 port

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which is a port that is angled in such a way that the ssd runs along the mainboard itself.

normal escarp Sep 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Here's one from Best buy and how they labled it "WD - Blue SN550 NVMe 1TB Internal PCI Express 3.0 x4 Solid State Drive with 3D NAND Technology" think i was getting confused on the part that says "PCE Express 3.0 X4" which to me meant it'd take up a PCI Express slot where i'd normally install a Graphics card into, but i was really trying to figure out where an M.2 would get installed and how it'd look like. I took up @primal falcon 's advice and saw a video of an M.2 being installed and see how it looked

heady raven Sep 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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that just means it uses a transfer protocol (by the name of pci-e express 3.0, and 4 lanes of it)

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and yes, your logical conclusion is easy to understand :)

primal falcon Sep 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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yeah, the lingo gets all weird with storage. m.2 is the form factor which is what you need to worry about to install it. i wouldnt worry about the pci express lanes unless you get really into how the motherboards work and distribute out pci lanes

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the only other thing id say for you to keep in mind is whether it is an NVME m.2 or sata 3 m.2. nvme is way faster in transfer speeds, but most people wont notice a difference in day to day use between them, and sata is usually cheaper

normal escarp Sep 1, 2020, 2:58 PM

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that's even better info to consider when i go buy a drive. NVME vs Sata XD

heady raven Sep 1, 2020, 2:59 PM

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which as mentioned, does not matter all that much

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but ofc, if price is remotely close, might as well grab a NVME

primal falcon Sep 1, 2020, 2:59 PM

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yeah dont stress over that, youve gotta be an enthusiast to really notice a difference

normal escarp Sep 1, 2020, 3:02 PM

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thank you @heady raven and @primal falcon for answering my questions and clarifying what i was probably already thinking but new to the whole M.2 hard drives

heady raven Sep 1, 2020, 3:02 PM

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best of luck and its Wolffe you should be thanking:)

primal falcon Sep 1, 2020, 3:24 PM

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@heady raven do you know if DRAM cache makes much of a difference in 2.5mm sata ssd? Ive heard sources saying it does and some that it doesnt,

heady raven Sep 1, 2020, 3:25 PM

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unless you are using the ssd for cold storage, cache is preferred for "fluidity" in transfer

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(and yes, that is simplified a LOT)

primal falcon Sep 1, 2020, 3:26 PM

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so like more consistent download speeds?

heady raven Sep 1, 2020, 3:26 PM

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think of it like this: the cache helps to make certain that performance is more consistent

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instead of "just" being a burst

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but, keep in mind, the majority of your interaction with the drive will be done way way before the cache needs to step in

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but, rule of thumb: you want a drive with cache

primal falcon Sep 1, 2020, 3:29 PM

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lol alright, thanks

heady raven Sep 1, 2020, 3:31 PM

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you are very welcome :)

narrow fractal Sep 1, 2020, 3:54 PM

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I'm looking for a component part for a Buffalo external drive - any idea who would carry just the forward facing circuit board with male port (and very fragile copper pins)?

pastel cairn Sep 1, 2020, 3:55 PM

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I have a HDD Z7K500-500 and want to switch to SDD. What is a compatible drive to order?

heady raven Sep 1, 2020, 3:58 PM

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@narrow fractal your best bet would be finding someone that is selling an old external drive of the same model

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@pastel cairn just about any 2.5inch sata ssd

narrow fractal Sep 1, 2020, 3:59 PM

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yeah - I'm thinking you are right. Who knew electronic components were so hard to come by

heady raven Sep 1, 2020, 3:59 PM

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sorry mate, best of luck on the hunt :)

pastel cairn Sep 1, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Ok thanks.

stuck nacelle Sep 2, 2020, 6:51 PM

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If I have a SATA power cable with multiple headers which one do I plug my new hard drive into?

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My previous drive was a M.2 SSD

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gloomy ferry Sep 2, 2020, 6:51 PM

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any of them

stuck nacelle Sep 2, 2020, 6:52 PM

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So there’s no difference between the closest one and the furthest one?

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And then does it matter if I plug the drive into SATA 1 vs SATA 2?

minor sun Sep 2, 2020, 6:53 PM

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No

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Some mobo disable like sata 5 and 6 when m.2 is installed but that's about it

stuck nacelle Sep 2, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Ok thanks

heady raven Sep 2, 2020, 8:29 PM

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@stuck nacelle wait a sec, which board is that?

stuck nacelle Sep 2, 2020, 8:29 PM

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B450 tomahawk Max

heady raven Sep 2, 2020, 8:30 PM

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those two ports there are the 5th and 6th port

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further "up" the board, there is another stack of 2 ports

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those are the ports you should be using

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or is the max the one with the bum first design

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nvm, its the one with the bum first design

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formal urchin Sep 3, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Is this nvme any good?

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https://www.newegg.com/patriot-512gb-p300/p/N82E16820225228?Item=N82E16820225228&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-225-228-_-09022020

loud estuary Sep 3, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Not great. DRAM-less nvme, so speeds might get worse than a hdd as it fills up. TLC is good tho. Also priced similarly to a good nvme like a sn750 or mp34 drive

broken kayak Sep 3, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Is the Western Digital 1tb ssd NVME good? I'm choosing it for storage at a fairly cheap price.

clever dawn Sep 3, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Hey folks! First time here. Hopefully, this will be a fun place to learn. I have a Nitro 5 (ANA-53-53) and my hard drive sounds like a 1980 chevette. I want to change and upgrade but I can't find good compatibility info.

The HD I now have is a wdc wd10spzx-21z10t0. Any suggestions on what would be a good upgrade and compatible with the connectors in my Nitro? Thanks!

marsh quiver Sep 3, 2020, 4:29 PM

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@broken kayak yes the western digital is very good

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What color?

minor sun Sep 3, 2020, 4:33 PM

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@broken kayak need model, sn750 or sn550 or something random?

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And price matters

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If it's 150$, just no, grab a team mp34

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@clever dawn laptop wise, is it the model with 8300h and a GTX1050?

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(AN515-53)?

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Side note, Acer user manuals sucks :(

clever dawn Sep 3, 2020, 4:48 PM

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@clever dawn laptop wise, is it the model with 8300h and a GTX1050?
@minor sun It the GTX1050 model and it is a AN515-53-55h5 model.

Totally agree with the user manual comment. It's not super helpful

broken kayak Sep 3, 2020, 4:49 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-1tb/p/N82E16820250110?Item=N82E16820250110&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

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@minor sun Thats the ssd.

minor sun Sep 3, 2020, 4:55 PM

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@broken kayak yea I'd suggest getting a team MP34 1tb, similar speeds, has dram, same controller, quite a bit cheaper

broken kayak Sep 3, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Alright thanks./

minor sun Sep 3, 2020, 4:58 PM

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@clever dawn welp, the manual and such didn't help at all, so I'm gonna go with this for now, and this shows the laptop having a M.2 2280 slot, so I believe you can just install a M.2 SSD in there on top of the hdd that is already present. For the exact SSD model, I'd suggest the Team MP34 512gb at 63$ right now.
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Acer+Nitro+5+AN515-53-55G9+SSD+Replacement/121485

iFixit

Acer Nitro 5 AN515-53-55G9 SSD Replacement

clever dawn Sep 3, 2020, 5:00 PM

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And what about a replacement for the 2.5 HDD? Any suggestions?

minor sun Sep 3, 2020, 5:00 PM

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I'd suggest grabbing an SSD whenever possible, but until I can find something in there that details what exactly the requirements for the 2.5in drive in there is, I can't recommend anything

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The reason is some laptops have different standards and requirements on how tall/thick the drive can be

clever dawn Sep 3, 2020, 5:04 PM

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👍

heady raven Sep 3, 2020, 5:09 PM

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the simplest way for the HDD replacement might be to simply open it up and measure the height of the darn thing :)

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OR send acer support an email :)

clever dawn Sep 3, 2020, 5:22 PM

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@heady raven ya, I'll do that as soon as my backup is done. Then, what should I be searching for in terms of nomenclature for my new one? Can I replace a 2.5 HHD with a 2.5 SSD?

heady raven Sep 3, 2020, 5:22 PM

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generally yes.

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the detail that matters it the "height (thickness)" of the drive itself

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there are 3 variations that your drive would fit into

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12,5mm, 9,5mm and 7mm

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IF your drive is just a regular 9.5mm one, things get very easy :)

clever dawn Sep 3, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Here are the measurements 10 x 7 x 0.7 centimeters

heady raven Sep 3, 2020, 6:12 PM

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hm, so a 7mm tall ssd is the order of the day then :)

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something like this is an option for you @clever dawn

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https://www.newegg.com/samsung-860-evo-series-500gb/p/N82E16820147674

clever dawn Sep 3, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Thanks @heady raven . Appreciate the help

heady raven Sep 3, 2020, 6:28 PM

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you are very welcome @clever dawn best of luck :)

unkempt steppe Sep 3, 2020, 6:29 PM

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need help with my direct x

minor sun Sep 3, 2020, 6:40 PM

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what about it

quaint fractal Sep 3, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Anyone know what the best 2 tb sata ssd is?

plush crag Sep 4, 2020, 2:27 AM

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860 evo ain't bad

foggy pecan Sep 4, 2020, 4:30 AM

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anyone here has any experience with samsung's data migration software?

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need to upgrade sata ssd to nvme

small breach Sep 4, 2020, 5:43 AM

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95 to 5

torpid adder Sep 4, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Don't mind if I do

red jay Sep 4, 2020, 9:11 AM

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If a 970 evo nvme is on sale cheaper than an mp34 I should get it right

torpid adder Sep 4, 2020, 10:58 AM

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sure

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where is it being sold

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facebook marketplace? wish.com?

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:p

red jay Sep 4, 2020, 11:53 AM

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nah its a computer/tech store in my country

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official enough

torpid adder Sep 4, 2020, 12:33 PM

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cool]

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sounds pretty good then

small breach Sep 5, 2020, 12:54 AM

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your tech store sells guns???

red jay Sep 5, 2020, 10:11 AM

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What's better 2x500gb nvme or 1x1gb? Bc to shave costs on my build I might just get less storage now and get more later

red jay Sep 5, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Looking for an external ssd to use for storing games, preferably around 20-35$, and around 120gb. Reccomendations on which to get?

torpid adder Sep 5, 2020, 3:25 PM

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an internal drive with an adapter or something idk

red jay Sep 5, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Wait would a usb c work and would it be faster than a 3.0 port

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 3:26 PM

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^agreed, then you also have something when attempting to retrieve data form another device not physically connected inside your rig

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Something like this would be extremely flexible

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https://www.newegg.com/wavlink-wl-st3335a-enclosure/p/0VN-0069-00024?Description=external SSD storage&cm_re=external_SSD storage-_-9SIA6PF7U20641-_-Product

red jay Sep 5, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Looking for one for a laptop, sadly didnt come with enough internal and im not able to upgrade it lol

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Ah laptop, so you need something portable

red jay Sep 5, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Preferably yeah

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 3:29 PM

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If you get an enclosure you can then pic whatever size device you require

red jay Sep 5, 2020, 3:29 PM

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I saw something similar to this, if it would work? https://www.newegg.com/p/2WA-00XB-00002

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 3:29 PM

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yep, you're on the right track

red jay Sep 5, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Then like a cheaper 2.5 ssd

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Any one of them would be fine

torpid adder Sep 5, 2020, 3:30 PM

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I can't find any fattydove drives peepoSadSip

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Anyone here able to assist me with a rackmount NAS setup?

red jay Sep 5, 2020, 3:32 PM

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i think I have an old toshiba hhd from an old laptop but I doubt I could find it

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Don't all answer at once, lol

red jay Sep 5, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Would something like this work? Looks to have good feedback https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B08CGXG1CF/ref=acr_dp_hist_2?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=two_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar

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Only 60gb but I dont really need anything bigger

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Looks pretty good, not the fastest available but for your budget should be fine

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Depending on the game, access speed can be key

red jay Sep 5, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Nothing serious, 1 sec

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Pretty much only these, and maybe similar

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acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 3:47 PM

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At least if you get it from Amazon you can return it should it not meet your expectations

red jay Sep 5, 2020, 3:48 PM

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True, ty for your help lol

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 3:59 PM

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If someone can PM about rackmount NAS solutions I would appreciate it

wary mantle Sep 5, 2020, 5:41 PM

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@acoustic void budget?

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Really haven't put a number on it, but I am not unrealistic either. My current NAS is a 6 disk, 2 TB, unit at a volume of 7.5 TB

wary mantle Sep 5, 2020, 5:43 PM

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you want diy or proprietary ?

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Open to either, so looking to see what is best

wary mantle Sep 5, 2020, 5:44 PM

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well if you are looking at less than 10TB of storage i would get a 1U supermicro barebones off ebay and build myself

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that would give you 4 hotswap and 2 internal 3.5" drives

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 5:45 PM

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I think we need to look at something past 10 TB for a solution

wary mantle Sep 5, 2020, 5:45 PM

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which is enough to hold nearly 120tb

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if its for business you probably want something with a service contract

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 5:46 PM

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This is my home setup, have a full rack and 5KV UPS. My wife has so much data (music and photos) that I have her profile on the NAS

wary mantle Sep 5, 2020, 5:47 PM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/UXS-Server-1U-Supermicro-E3-1270-V3-3-5Ghz-4C-8GB-RAM-Haswell-80W-X10SLM-LN4F/143049782524?hash=item214e6e74fc:g:JaQAAOSwNepcEafB

eBay

UXS Server 1U Supermicro E3-1270 V3 3.5Ghz 4C 8GB RAM Haswell 80W X...

Motherboard: X10SLM+-LN4F. Supermicro 1U 4x 3.5" Drive Bays 1 Nodes. 1U Rail kit. RAM: 8GB RAM (2x 4GB). 4x 3.5" Supermicro caddy. Server Chassis/ Case: CSE-815TQ-340C. Seconadary Specs Chasssis/ Motherboard.

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you could use that and install freenas on it

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 5:48 PM

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I did look at some storage enclosures, and also been looking at a commercial solution. One of which was scalable and ability to communicate with another duplicate setup for DR

heady raven Sep 5, 2020, 5:48 PM

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@acoustic void STH is the site you might want to have a look at

wary mantle Sep 5, 2020, 5:48 PM

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yeah servethehome greatdeals section would have some good stuff

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 5:48 PM

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awesome, appreciate the tip

heady raven Sep 5, 2020, 5:49 PM

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didnt mean for the deals thou, more for the "hoarder" mindset they have :)

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and i do mean that in a good way :)

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 5:49 PM

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lol

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Yeah, she has a lot of music CDs, concert pics, etc

wary mantle Sep 5, 2020, 5:50 PM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1U-Supermicro-Server-6x-10GBE-RJ45-X10SLH-LN6TF-X10SLH-N6-ST031-BIOS-Updated/153624240171?hash=item23c4b7e02b:g:rG8AAOSwoEpen4RK

eBay

1U Supermicro Server 6x 10GBE RJ45 X10SLH-LN6TF - X10SLH-N6-ST031 B...

WE HAVE UPDATED THE BIOS AND THERE IS NO LONGER A BIOS PASSWORD -. Update 04-21-20JT BIOS PW cleared and BIOS updated, pricing changed, . Compact 1U Full Depth Rackmount Chassis that fits into standard Rack Cabinets.

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that ones a good deal, you just need to add cpu/ram but its got 6x 10g nics

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I prefer 4U cases to make them silent since my rack is in the office

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Fortunately mine is in the basement. ; )

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One of the solutions was looking at.

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lol because it was a manufacturers website the link was removed even though Newegg sells it....

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https://www.newegg.com/synology-rs819/p/2HT-003T-00182?Item=9SIAAUC97V7763

heady raven Sep 5, 2020, 5:53 PM

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send me the link @acoustic void

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because i am quite curious how it is you are even able to post links at all right now (you are not lvl 3)

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 5:54 PM

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newegg link above

heady raven Sep 5, 2020, 5:55 PM

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yeah yeah, i know, but please send me the other one

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 5:55 PM

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certainly

heady raven Sep 5, 2020, 5:55 PM

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because the bot should NOT be selective about stuff like that :)

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(following is just a test)

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https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/RS819#features

RS819 | Synology Inc.

Centralize data storage and backup, streamline file collaboration, optimize video management, and secure network deployment to facilitate data management.

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hm

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Seems pretty reasonable for a solution, and the cost is not too bad

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Of course I want my cake and eat it too

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lol

wary mantle Sep 5, 2020, 6:01 PM

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my thinking is the last thing i want to do with my data is lock it down with 1 company

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 6:03 PM

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There is also a Netgear solution I looked at, but it is a bit more expensive but has some other features that were nice. My current NAS is a ReadyNAS

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Has been very reliable, just getting a bit old

heady raven Sep 5, 2020, 6:04 PM

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level1techs is another site you might want to have a gander at @acoustic void

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just be aware that Wendel, the main guy over there is a bit of a quirky character

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 6:06 PM

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You refering to the forums?

heady raven Sep 5, 2020, 6:06 PM

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and their youtube channel too yes

acoustic void Sep 5, 2020, 6:06 PM

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kk

wary mantle Sep 5, 2020, 6:07 PM

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oh yeah he was the one that made that intel platinum "deal" video

heady raven Sep 5, 2020, 6:08 PM

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keep in mind, he very much does know his stuff

fallow ginkgo Sep 5, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Cheapest 1tp ssd (link)

round echo Sep 5, 2020, 9:27 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/crucial-p1-1tb/p/N82E16820156199?Item=N82E16820156199&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FpxKcCJ%2Fcrucial-p1-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct1000p1ssd8&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-j2mtqkjj1JPcoGLGsjzAhQ

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good and cheap

high frost Sep 5, 2020, 9:34 PM

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does it have dram

minor sun Sep 5, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Yes

high frost Sep 5, 2020, 9:38 PM

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ooh

blissful whale Sep 5, 2020, 9:39 PM

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i cant find my hard drive anywhere besides bios so i cant format it what do i do

minor sun Sep 5, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Disk management

blissful whale Sep 5, 2020, 9:40 PM

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it doesnt show up there

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only in bios is where i see it

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i unplugged and plugged everything in i moved the sata cable to a different location i tried device manager i tried diskpart on command prompt

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nothing worked

heady raven Sep 5, 2020, 9:48 PM

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@blissful whale you certain you scrolled down in Disk management?

blissful whale Sep 5, 2020, 9:48 PM

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only have 2 drives and one missing

heady raven Sep 5, 2020, 9:51 PM

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screenshot please.

shut furnace Sep 6, 2020, 10:42 AM

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Death xD

heady raven Sep 6, 2020, 3:22 PM

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@red jay about the same as any other raid really

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its just a question of what hardware does the calculations really

sleek viper Sep 6, 2020, 6:25 PM

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What’s a decent price for a 4-6tb HDD?

round echo Sep 7, 2020, 12:30 AM

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pretty sure a good 4tb 7200rpm hdd is like 140-150 ish

high frost Sep 7, 2020, 12:31 AM

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alternatively you can get 2 good 2tb hdds and itll be cheaper

round echo Sep 7, 2020, 12:31 AM

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some 6tb 7200rpm hdds im seeing are 200 and under

viral bolt Sep 7, 2020, 6:31 AM

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A 2tb hdd is like $50-60. If you have the sata ports for it they're actually cheaper than larger drives

gloomy ferry Sep 7, 2020, 6:31 AM

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protip: careful ebay shopping

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3tb hdd for $40, I have gotten

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BabyYoda

dry root Sep 7, 2020, 6:29 PM

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so i'm gonna buy a silicon power 1TB NVMe PCIe 3.0 drive

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i have had a lot of silicon power SSDs over the years

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0 failures

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good performance

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and it's like $50 cheaper than the sabrent

noble atlas Sep 8, 2020, 4:01 AM

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I have one if those

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Works well

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It's a clone of sabrent and inland premium

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Same as all the other Phison E12 drives

hushed marten Sep 8, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Are wd blue ssds any good

red jay Sep 8, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Do external ssd's work on Xbox one?

minor sun Sep 8, 2020, 7:44 PM

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@hushed marten which one

hushed marten Sep 8, 2020, 7:51 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-500gb/p/N82E16820250087?item=N82E16820250087&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-solid+state+disk-_-N82E16820250087&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=CjwKCAjw19z6BRAYEiwAmo64LSEXF5Wyi_vUFvYGu91qXxvtjsq8YhI4o6qAy4jaHxMdbU0eLg71OxoCQC0QAvD_BwE

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That kind

red jay Sep 8, 2020, 7:59 PM

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The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with a SATA 6.0 Gb/s port. When the M.2 slot is populated, one SATA 6.0 Gb/s port is disabled. what does this mean

heady raven Sep 8, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Which specific mainboard model @red jay

wind hazel Sep 8, 2020, 8:59 PM

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I put my old laptop hdd in my desktop, any way I can easily clear all the junk like the old OS and whatnot?

minor sun Sep 8, 2020, 11:22 PM

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@hushed marten you know that a P1 500gb is NVMe while being cheaper right

heady raven Sep 8, 2020, 11:27 PM

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@wind hazel if you dont care about the things on the disk, just format it

hushed marten Sep 8, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Yeah just showed tht link for reference, I found a 1tb wd blue for $78 so was wondering if overall it'll last

wind hazel Sep 8, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Well I kinda have my steam library on it lol

minor sun Sep 8, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Sounds pretty sus to me but

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If you can actually confirm it's an unused wd blue that hasn't been tampered with

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Go ahead

heady raven Sep 8, 2020, 11:29 PM

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@wind hazel then you could just delete everything else

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IF you are certain nothing is being shared across that is :)

minor sun Sep 8, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Format the drive if you just want everything gone

wind hazel Sep 8, 2020, 11:29 PM

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It’s a painful process lol cuz I have to get rid of the TrustedInstaller ownership

heady raven Sep 8, 2020, 11:30 PM

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start by making a shortcut for explorer on your desktop, then run that as admin

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that should take care of a number of that

minor sun Sep 8, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Also, you can move steam game install locations

wind hazel Sep 8, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Yes but I don’t have a big enough drive

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I have a 250gb drive for my OS and apps but I wanna get rid of everything on the old hdd, was just wondering if there was a simple work around.

minor sun Sep 8, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Afaik there's no way to "delete everything but this folder" in one move

heady raven Sep 8, 2020, 11:35 PM

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there is a way, but it is not simple

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because its script based and you would have to know that first before you can do it

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so, put on some good music and start plodding away at deleting things @wind hazel

wind hazel Sep 8, 2020, 11:41 PM

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definitely gonna be a process lol

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oof I figured it out

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I was changing the owner to the general user rather than my own account, now it is no longer a pain in my butt

heady raven Sep 8, 2020, 11:53 PM

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:)

red jay Sep 9, 2020, 12:47 AM

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when will samsungs gen 4 nvme come out?

sweet badge Sep 9, 2020, 12:48 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/intensifies-sooning-soontm-midsizedonkey7-nowhere-gif-12050318

Tenor

minor sun Sep 9, 2020, 12:52 AM

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we dont know basically

bold mortar Sep 9, 2020, 12:52 AM

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what’s the best 1tb storage?

minor sun Sep 9, 2020, 12:52 AM

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and #cpus-mobo-and-memory message

foggy pecan Sep 9, 2020, 1:46 AM

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is this a right channel for storage tech support?

bold mortar Sep 9, 2020, 1:54 AM

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@minor sun is there anything cheaper? kinda on a budget

minor sun Sep 9, 2020, 1:56 AM

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P1 1tb

turbid pier Sep 9, 2020, 3:08 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PHQ6Q1D?th=1&psc=1

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I was gonna get this but in one of the questions, the manufacturer said there’s no dram, how important is it for gaming/everyday tasks

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And if it is essential what’s a good ssd with it?

open gazelle Sep 9, 2020, 6:29 AM

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The MP34 NVMe has DRAM, and is a very good NVMe for the price

minor sun Sep 9, 2020, 10:54 AM

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@turbid pier I'll defer you to this.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit#gid=0

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Also, the manufacturer said it DID have a dram cache

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turbid pier Sep 9, 2020, 11:01 AM

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Huh, I swear the first question I see asks and the seller replies saying it doesn’t, and I can’t post a screenshot for some reason, but thanks for the help! The excel seems like a nice reference

minor sun Sep 9, 2020, 11:03 AM

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MP33 doesn't have dram, MP34 does

turbid pier Sep 9, 2020, 11:08 AM

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Gotcha, ill have to go for it then, thanks!

red jay Sep 9, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Does the Samsung evo 970 (non plus) have dram?

heady raven Sep 9, 2020, 2:22 PM

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@red jay

red jay Sep 9, 2020, 2:22 PM

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So yes. Thanks

heady raven Sep 9, 2020, 2:22 PM

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you are welcome.

viscid mirage Sep 9, 2020, 9:35 PM

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so, I want to get a n.2 mvme ssd, and it says it will need a heat sync. How does on do that, is it on your motherboard? I'm bad a pc knowledge

dire marlin Sep 9, 2020, 9:36 PM

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yes nvme is on ur motherboard

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just a tip, make sure u put the standoff before u insert the nvme

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dont directly screw into motherboard

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usually nvme heatsinks do not always come with the motherboard (depends on which kind)

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and if it does come with nvme heatsink, u gotta screw it off, and then insert nvme, and put heatsink back on

viscid mirage Sep 9, 2020, 9:43 PM

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alright, sweet thanks

dire marlin Sep 9, 2020, 9:46 PM

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np

minor sun Sep 9, 2020, 10:27 PM

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@viscid mirage you likely won't need a heatsink unless you grabbed a 4.0 drive

lilac patrol Sep 10, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Does pcie 3 work in a pcie 4 slot?

vapid nebula Sep 10, 2020, 7:36 AM

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yes @lilac patrol (at least it should)

violet pawn Sep 10, 2020, 1:00 PM

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will an m.2 work on an nvme ssd slot?

minor sun Sep 10, 2020, 1:00 PM

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?

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@violet pawn explain

violet pawn Sep 10, 2020, 1:01 PM

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i have a motherboard with an nvme ssd slot

minor sun Sep 10, 2020, 1:01 PM

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B+M?

violet pawn Sep 10, 2020, 1:01 PM

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but it look the same as an m.2 drive

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can i put an m.2 ssd on that slot

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is it compatible?

minor sun Sep 10, 2020, 1:01 PM

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NVMe SSDs are M.2 SSDs, but the M.2 slot can have different keys

violet pawn Sep 10, 2020, 1:02 PM

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ok ill try it

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wait.

minor sun Sep 10, 2020, 1:02 PM

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What motherboard

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and what ssd

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M.2 M key is only NVMe

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M.2 B+M key is NVMe or SATA

violet pawn Sep 10, 2020, 1:02 PM

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ok wait

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my m.2 is m

minor sun Sep 10, 2020, 1:02 PM

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Your SSD or the slot

violet pawn Sep 10, 2020, 1:03 PM

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ssd

minor sun Sep 10, 2020, 1:03 PM

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And what key is the slot?

violet pawn Sep 10, 2020, 1:03 PM

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wait

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ROG rampage vi extreme omega

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ohh

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stupid me

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its an m.2 slot

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😆

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sorry

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@minor sun

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i thought it was an nvme slot

minor sun Sep 10, 2020, 1:05 PM

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lel

violet pawn Sep 10, 2020, 1:06 PM

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yeah

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i really thought

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it was nvme

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lol

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but now i can finish my setup

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thanks @minor sun !!

minor sun Sep 10, 2020, 1:06 PM

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You're welcome

round echo Sep 10, 2020, 4:55 PM

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anybody have a suggestion for a relatively affordable 2tb nvme ssd

agile stone Sep 10, 2020, 5:34 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08867VV6V?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

fallow mulch Sep 10, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Stupid question of the day: I just installed a new SSD that I intend to use as a boot drive. Do I need to get into BIOS to change it to the boot drive, then start a windows 10 installation? Or can I boot from my HDD like always, then start the Windows 10 installer?

heady raven Sep 10, 2020, 9:52 PM

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you start the install process from a usb stick :)

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and for your own sake, pull the cable from the hdd/other drives while you do it

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so its just the ssd and the usb stick :)

fallow mulch Sep 10, 2020, 9:53 PM

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So just boot up with the HDD unplugged and start the windows 10 installer? Then after that's all done, go into BIOS and change the boot drive to the SSD? All I have to do is put in the SSD and then do these steps right?

heady raven Sep 10, 2020, 9:54 PM

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basically yes

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remember to make the usb stick BEFORE :)

fallow mulch Sep 10, 2020, 9:54 PM

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I have the USB already, thank you though

heady raven Sep 10, 2020, 9:54 PM

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:) best of luck :)

fallow mulch Sep 10, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Thanks

fallow mulch Sep 10, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Are we going to need to make new user names and rearrange desktops and everything?

heady raven Sep 10, 2020, 10:26 PM

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if you make a new windows install ? yes

fallow mulch Sep 10, 2020, 10:34 PM

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So I had a HDD before that we've been using for 4 years. Wanted a SSD to boot from and put games onto. Bought one. Was there any way for me to boot from that SSD but continue to use the settings and stuff from the hard drive? Or do we have to start fresh

heady raven Sep 10, 2020, 10:36 PM

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you could clone it all

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if there is enough space on the ssd for that off course :)

agile stone Sep 10, 2020, 10:37 PM

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you could keep the hdd plugged in

heady raven Sep 10, 2020, 10:37 PM

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not going to make the users work @agile stone

agile stone Sep 10, 2020, 10:37 PM

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theres a feature on the install that allows you to install it to a certain drive

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i c

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well in that case only plug in the boot drive

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and then once its loaded on you can plug in the hdd

heady raven Sep 10, 2020, 10:38 PM

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still not going to do what he is asking about @agile stone

agile stone Sep 10, 2020, 10:38 PM

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?

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you dont need to get into bois

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bios*

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just get a usb key with the media and the boot drive

heady raven Sep 10, 2020, 10:39 PM

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you are completely misunderstanding

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he is talking about his windows users

fallow mulch Sep 10, 2020, 10:39 PM

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^^

agile stone Sep 10, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Are we going to need to make new user names and rearrange desktops and everything?
@fallow mulch didnt see this message mb

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i only saw the first 2

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sorry bout that lol.

heady raven Sep 10, 2020, 10:40 PM

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:)

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@fallow mulch cloning is the simple way of doing that

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https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

Macrium Reflect Free

reflect an image of your pc

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that is the tool you use for it

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the free version

fallow mulch Sep 10, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Basically what I would like to do is run the OS and some games from my ssd so they are fast loading but I want to keep all of my files, music, pictures, etc on the hdd. Can I just clone over the user settings and such and not literally everything?

heady raven Sep 10, 2020, 10:44 PM

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selective cloning is not a thing

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its either or

fallow mulch Sep 10, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Understood. So if I want to make my new SSD a boot drive (and maybe run some games off it later) and leave everything else on my HDD then a) am I doing it right by putting a fresh windows install on there and b) do I need to redo all of our user settings since I do not want to clone my whole hdd.

heady raven Sep 10, 2020, 11:05 PM

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yes, the users etc would have to be redone

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because you would be starting from scratch with that particular windows install @fallow mulch

fallow mulch Sep 10, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Okay. But this is the correct way to just turn this SSD into a boot drive right? I'm not missing anything?

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Sorry for being annoying, don't want to mess anything up

heady raven Sep 10, 2020, 11:20 PM

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that is indeed the correct way

fallow mulch Sep 10, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Thank you for your help @heady raven

red jay Sep 10, 2020, 11:25 PM

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@heady raven SK hynix Gold P31 1TB vs 970 evo plus what would u choose

minor sun Sep 10, 2020, 11:47 PM

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I say sn750 :D

foggy pecan Sep 10, 2020, 11:51 PM

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@fallow mulch ur SSD manufacturer most likely have their own cloning software

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i just cloned my old SATA to a new 970 evo

fallow mulch Sep 10, 2020, 11:52 PM

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So there's no way to clone portions of a drive? I have roughly 1.6tb on my HDD and a 1tb ssd. Manually reinstalling everything and all of our settings sounds like a massive pain

heady raven Sep 10, 2020, 11:53 PM

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@fallow mulch unless you have it partitioned already. no.

foggy pecan Sep 10, 2020, 11:54 PM

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if ur source drive is bigger than you target drive, its a much more pain in the ass to clone imo

fallow mulch Sep 11, 2020, 12:34 AM

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I think I'm going to just clone the drive. I'll backup my HDD and delete stuff until it'll fit the SSD. Just seems way easier than redoing everything on a fresh install of windows. Then I'll delete windows 10 off the HDD and just make it a storage drive. That makes sense right?

heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 12:37 AM

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aye, that is what a lot of people do

fallow mulch Sep 11, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Moving from a 3TB HDD to a 1TB SSD. In Macrium Reflect I'm trying to change partition sizes before cloning. Is anyone available to help me with this?

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I think I understand the steps correctly, I just needed to shrink one partition to make the three fit, but can someone tell me if this looks correct/incorrect:

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heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 4:07 AM

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thats workable @fallow mulch

fallow mulch Sep 11, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Not to nit pick because I appreciate all of your help today, but is it ideal? Should I be changing anything in your recommendation?

heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 4:09 AM

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well,it would be practical for you if you change the C: on the destination to eat up more of the "spare" space you have on that drive

fallow mulch Sep 11, 2020, 4:10 AM

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I've attempted to change C: from 900GB several times but every time it prevents me from typing a higher number

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I tried changing it to 930.51 and then tried several numbers lower.

heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 4:10 AM

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meh, just leave it then

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might be a corner case of the free version of reflect

fallow mulch Sep 11, 2020, 4:11 AM

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It won't even let me do 900.10 lol So I'm assuming 900GB is the most I'll be getting out of it

heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 4:12 AM

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keep in mind, i am doing this from memory, but you could do it in multiple steps

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because the problem is most likely the third partition that it doesnt want to move that while doing the resize

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but frankly, eff it

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its only 30 gigs

fallow mulch Sep 11, 2020, 4:13 AM

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I would strongly prefer to do it all in one to avoid any issues/mistakes. So if the above image is workable, I'm okay with losing the 30GB. I'm still using the 3TB HDD as a storage drive so I won't need it.

heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 4:13 AM

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it should be workable

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dont worry, the copy process itself is quite fast

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and you are afterall only cloning things

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so if something goes wrong, its on the SSD side of things it goes wrong.

fallow mulch Sep 11, 2020, 4:14 AM

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True. Worst case I just delete the SSD and start over.

heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 4:14 AM

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aye

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hence why i said what i did above :)

fallow mulch Sep 11, 2020, 4:15 AM

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I understand. First time doing it though so I want to be thorough. I enjoy learning and understanding, not just being told what's best and what to do, so I ask a ton of questions until I make sure I fully get it.

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I do really appreciate the help today though. It's cloning now.

heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 4:16 AM

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you are very welcome :)

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and because you are "outside" of the OS

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your HDD will be running as fast as it can

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not like it does when it is in windows and is busy with 400 other things

fallow mulch Sep 11, 2020, 4:18 AM

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That's good to know. Any reason to leave Windows 10 on the HDD after this if all goes well? Just as a backup option?

heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 4:18 AM

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wait a bit until you are certain everything has gone well

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as you say, first time you are doing this

fallow mulch Sep 11, 2020, 4:18 AM

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I understand and I will, but after that, I planned on deleting it once I'm certain I won't need it.

heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 4:19 AM

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meaning, there is bound to be "something" you didnt think about

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aye aye, just wipe it when you dont need it

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it has no practical purpose after that

fallow mulch Sep 11, 2020, 4:21 AM

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My thoughts as well, just wasn't sure if there would be any reason to keep it. Alright, I'm off to bed. Thanks again! Hopefully this is done by morning lol. 3% through.

heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 4:21 AM

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:)

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have a good night.

fallow mulch Sep 11, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Seems to have worked just fine! I'm just now discovering that in some other cloning programs there's an "optimize for SSD" setting that needs to be selected when changing from a HDD to an SSD. Did I miss this in Macrium Reflect? Or not necessary?

heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 2:16 PM

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nope, you did not miss

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its bollocks in general

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the ssd will handle that by itself @fallow mulch

red jay Sep 11, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Does the samsung 970 nvme ssd work on a sata only m.2 slot?

heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 2:17 PM

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no

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the "keying" on it wont fit @red jay

fallow mulch Sep 11, 2020, 2:18 PM

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@heady raven Thank you. That should conclude all of my question on this! You're the best

heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 2:18 PM

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you are very welcome @fallow mulch Enjoy the new drive :)

red jay Sep 11, 2020, 2:18 PM

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I guess I'll just get a new pc next year instead of upgrading bit by bit then...

heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 2:19 PM

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@red jay in general, it is a bad idea to upgrade bit by bit, unless its done in a very specific manner, with a well thought out plan ahead of time

red jay Sep 11, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Ok thanks

heady raven Sep 11, 2020, 2:20 PM

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your welcome

minor sun Sep 11, 2020, 4:03 PM

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We can help with upgrading/new build once you want that

jaunty elm Sep 12, 2020, 3:05 PM

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heyooo I have my first build here with a half a tb M2 that I love. Its really fast but obviously I am running out of room here with only half a tb. I want to get a 4TB HDD to store all of my stuff on but still have my M2 boot things.. Can anyone help me find the right HDD and help me do it? 😄

heady raven Sep 12, 2020, 3:09 PM

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@jaunty elm you located in the US?

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the following is what makes the most sense from a value perspective: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BcQG3C/seagate-barracuda-compute-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dmz08dm008 <- buy 2 of those.

Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

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IF it has to be one single drive that has 4tb, then the following is my suggestion

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dGHRsY/western-digital-black-4tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd4005fzbx

Western Digital Black 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

jaunty elm Sep 12, 2020, 3:14 PM

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yes i am

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okay. why is two 2tb better than one 4tb?

sweet badge Sep 12, 2020, 3:15 PM

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its like $40 cheaper to buy the 2tbs over the single 4tb

jaunty elm Sep 12, 2020, 3:17 PM

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gotcha. I have no idea if my Phanteks p300 case two slots. is that pretty universal?

heady raven Sep 12, 2020, 3:17 PM

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aye, fairly normal

sweet badge Sep 12, 2020, 3:18 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p300-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854068 if this is the one yes it has 2 3.5" and 2 2.5" slots

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also if u can probably just lay them somewhere in the psu compartment and theyll be fine if u have no slots :v

heady raven Sep 12, 2020, 3:19 PM

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no. just no

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please dont

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people have a tendency to forgot they have drives in their case like that

sweet badge Sep 12, 2020, 3:19 PM

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true

heady raven Sep 12, 2020, 3:19 PM

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and trust me, there is nothing quite as soul crushing as that "clonk!" when you tilt that case

sweet badge Sep 12, 2020, 3:20 PM

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but i mean as long as u dont violently shake or move ur case it should be fine

heady raven Sep 12, 2020, 3:20 PM

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dont build for "its going to be fine" when talking about users

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users are the people that can make dirt explode by just standing next to it

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i do not trust users with the simplest of things.

sweet badge Sep 12, 2020, 3:21 PM

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fair

jaunty elm Sep 12, 2020, 3:24 PM

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haha agreed

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thank you! Is it fairly straight forward with the installation then

heady raven Sep 12, 2020, 3:25 PM

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aye

jaunty elm Sep 12, 2020, 3:26 PM

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also will it automatically be set so the M2 will be doing all the work and the HDDs will just be for storage?

heady raven Sep 12, 2020, 3:26 PM

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in windows? no

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its a question of what programs you use and how they are setup

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that is an example of how it could look after setup in something like steam

heady raven Sep 12, 2020, 4:05 PM

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any other questions @jaunty elm ?

jaunty elm Sep 12, 2020, 4:06 PM

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hmm so i would have to configure it for steam?

heady raven Sep 12, 2020, 4:06 PM

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yes, it would not "magically" know that you suddenly want to use a random harddrive for some installs

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same goes for the other game store clients you might use

jaunty elm Sep 12, 2020, 4:53 PM

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nice. thank you!!! you have been a big help @heady raven

heady raven Sep 12, 2020, 5:09 PM

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you are very welcome @jaunty elm, best of luck :)

dawn sand Sep 12, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Would it be okay to get 4TB hard drive

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Like people say what you need all that space for but it’s for games so I don’t have to wait hours just to play a game the game is already to play

fallow crescent Sep 13, 2020, 1:53 AM

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If you can afford it, ssd or even m.2 nvme is much quicker than hard drive, I can tell a huge difference in games downloaded on my m.2 vs hard drive. But if you can’t dish out that extra money, 4TB should be a good bit

short lodge Sep 13, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Bro get an SSD

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You should have an ssd

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It’s life changing

jovial cypress Sep 13, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Any nvme that's worth 60?

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Like 500gb at least

minor sun Sep 13, 2020, 3:57 AM

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P1 500gb, MP34 512gb

jovial cypress Sep 13, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Aight thanks

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@minor sun this are actually good thanks man.

minor sun Sep 13, 2020, 3:59 AM

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yw

dawn sand Sep 13, 2020, 10:00 AM

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It’s life changing
@short lodge so is sleeping but people don’t sleep do they

red jay Sep 13, 2020, 2:02 PM

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users are the people that can make dirt explode by just standing next to it
@heady raven

Ned you said you wouldn't tell anyone about that :(

short lodge Sep 13, 2020, 3:34 PM

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@GamerGirl (Kenzie)★★★★★#0115 I sleep

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Oh what why she gone

shut furnace Sep 13, 2020, 3:48 PM

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strange

sweet badge Sep 13, 2020, 3:58 PM

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kekw good

short lodge Sep 13, 2020, 3:59 PM

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wuuut

red jay Sep 13, 2020, 9:52 PM

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She'll be back

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Again

sacred willow Sep 14, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Does anyone have some quick troubleshooting tips for my PC's HDD? I have a 2TB seagate Barricuda but my system isn't detecting it. As far as I know everything is plugged in correctly.

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My motherboard is a Gigabyte B550M Ultra Durable DS3H

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 3:52 PM

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@sacred willow have you looked in disk management in windows?

sacred willow Sep 14, 2020, 3:54 PM

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I have, and it does not appear anywhere there. When I first booted my PC it showed the hard drive but now it's gone since I activated and updated Windows.

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 3:55 PM

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in disk management, do notice that you might have to scroll the window for it to show

sand onyx Sep 14, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Yeah Disk Management can actually help diagnose/fix many drive issues.

thorn stream Sep 14, 2020, 7:20 PM

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i believe this is where im supposed to be i have a serious question so my gaming laptops original hard drive it finished and i was told to purchase a M.2 2280 but the company says i need an M.2 2230 would the m2 2280 work in my Rog Strix Gaming notebook ?

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:22 PM

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pretty sure

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:22 PM

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which specific model do you have?

thorn stream Sep 14, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Gl703

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:22 PM

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u have to get a m.2 2230

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:22 PM

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some of them ARE using the shorter versions.

thorn stream Sep 14, 2020, 7:22 PM

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i tried finding it on newegg but i cant find one

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:23 PM

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this doesn't give much info

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can ur laptop support

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a ssd and a hdd

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https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Laptops/ROG-Strix-GL703/specifications/

ASUS Canada

ROG Strix GL703 | Laptops | ASUS Canada

With Intel® Core™ i7 processor, up to NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 graphics & Windows 10 Pro, ROG Strix GL703 equips you to control the competition.

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:24 PM

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specs dont say in enough detail

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:24 PM

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yea

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:24 PM

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i am working on the manual right now

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site is being slow thou

thorn stream Sep 14, 2020, 7:24 PM

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i know thats where im stuggling

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:25 PM

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m.2 2280 is supported

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in both "key" types

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meaning, both NVME and non-NVME work :)

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:25 PM

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can it support

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both hdd and ssd

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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aye

thorn stream Sep 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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so it would work

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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it has a 2.5inch bay

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and a m.2 2280 bay

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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ok

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some computer can only support one drive at a time

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:27 PM

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https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/GamingNB/GL703GS/E14527_GL703GS_GM_V2_B.pdf <- here is the link for the manual @thorn stream

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:27 PM

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so i was asking

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:27 PM

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page 75 and forward is what you want

thorn stream Sep 14, 2020, 7:27 PM

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https://www.newegg.ca/western-digital-blue-1tb/p/N82E16820250092?Description=m2 ssd drive&cm_re=m2_ssd drive-_-20-250-092-_-Product (so this will work )

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and is this brand worth it ?

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:27 PM

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yes, that would work. I would recommend a different model thou :)

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@red jay you are in the US right?

thorn stream Sep 14, 2020, 7:28 PM

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im new to this

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:28 PM

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I am in Canada

thorn stream Sep 14, 2020, 7:28 PM

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me too

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:28 PM

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even better :)

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because i cannot access newegg.ca from europe

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(and no, that is not a joke)

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:28 PM

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that dumb

thorn stream Sep 14, 2020, 7:29 PM

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dang

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:29 PM

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red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:29 PM

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i think i can visit Europe

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let me check

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what is the domain

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:29 PM

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crucial p1, the mp34

thorn stream Sep 14, 2020, 7:29 PM

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so what model would u recommend ?

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:30 PM

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the p1 is good

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:30 PM

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see above :)

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:30 PM

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what does the domain end in

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newegg.

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:30 PM

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it depends on the country

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there is a co.uk

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:31 PM

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when i go to .co.uk

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it sends me to newegg.com

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:31 PM

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"joy"

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:32 PM

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@thorn stream how many gb?

thorn stream Sep 14, 2020, 7:32 PM

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i want a 1tb

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:32 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en <- thats the link @red jay , i misremembered. Newegg is not something we use here

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:32 PM

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https://www.newegg.ca/crucial-p1-1tb/p/N82E16820156199

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ok

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when i clicked the link it sent me to newegg.com again

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:33 PM

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shrugs

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:33 PM

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it first sends me to newegg uk then newegg usa

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:33 PM

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its their problem :)

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:33 PM

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@thorn stream https://www.newegg.ca/crucial-p1-1tb/p/N82E16820156199

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its their problem :)
yup

thorn stream Sep 14, 2020, 7:34 PM

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thank u so this model is better and is there a reason ?

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:34 PM

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faster controller and flash (storage chips)

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:35 PM

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^

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:35 PM

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that is the simple answer :)

thorn stream Sep 14, 2020, 7:35 PM

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would u recommend this over a solid state drive ?

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:35 PM

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it is a ssd

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:35 PM

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this IS a solidstate drive

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:35 PM

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but a different formfactor

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which is m.2

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also known as a nvme ssd

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nvme ssds are faster than 2.5 inch ssds

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and m.2 ssd that are not nvmes

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:36 PM

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https://static.digit.in/default/9d43664597a2abcede10f3fbb181b174c59ff8e1.jpeg

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the above picture is what is inside a 2.5 inch ssd.

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https://content.crucial.com/content/dam/crucial/ssd-products/p1/images/awards/product/crucial-p1-ssd-myce-excellent-award-gallery-image-en-gb.psd.transform/medium-png/image.png

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that is how a m.2 2280 ssd looks

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same idea, different shape :)

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:38 PM

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^

thorn stream Sep 14, 2020, 7:38 PM

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thank u very much 🙂

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 7:38 PM

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you are very welcome :)

red jay Sep 14, 2020, 7:38 PM

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welcome

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have a great day or night

thorn stream Sep 14, 2020, 7:38 PM

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day lol

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 9:56 PM

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so i have a SATA M.2 silicon power SSD i bought forever ago

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I want to grab a silicon power for my NVMe

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because i find it very reliable over years

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there are a couple speed tiers but i feel like it doesn't matter in particular

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since all NVMe drives can be perceived as simply "fast"

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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generally, what you want is dram, and a "not silly" controller

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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how does one define not silly

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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some of the dram-less ones are the silly ones

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basically, dont buy complete bargin bin

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and iirc, we have a pin for a list of drives

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with what controllers etc

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:01 PM

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oh

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so specific "buy this"

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 10:01 PM

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basically yes

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:02 PM

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okay it's on the list

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has DRAM

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has a Phison E12 or whatever controller

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 10:03 PM

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aye, "good enough"

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:03 PM

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it's more than good enough for me, my standards are not particularly exacting

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 10:03 PM

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aye

small steppeBOT Sep 14, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Grey#3002 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:04 PM

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oops

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 10:04 PM

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the process you just went through is the max you need to go through

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:04 PM

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bahahah

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i'm terrible

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 10:04 PM

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no comment

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:04 PM

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i'm gonna get it then

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 10:04 PM

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:P

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

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https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B079X7LMLY seriously what i have now so

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it'll be an improvement

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

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:)

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:07 PM

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thanks, as always

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i was gonna get the lower end, which is not spectacular. it has flash cache

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

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as you say, its going to be an upgrade

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just dont be surprised if you dont notice it as such

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but do keep the old m.2 around

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could be a nice drive for a HTPC or something like it

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

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oh sure

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i'll save it for what i am calling the mom PC

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which is a PC i am building specifically to suit my mom's needs

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i will likely also include a dual core intel CPU

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cannibalize all my old parts

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 10:10 PM

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aye

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you are going to get a LONG way with a drive like that as the backbone for a machine like that

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:10 PM

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yeah, certainly

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 10:10 PM

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you could also try and see if you could pickup an old nuc with m.2 support

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:11 PM

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that is a good choice yeah, except i need PCIe x16 for a GPU

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 10:11 PM

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she games?

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:11 PM

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you see, the aforementioned mom is a gamer, casual to be sure but plays a lot of the sims

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 10:11 PM

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fair enough :)

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discrete itx box?

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:11 PM

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though she is an absolute boomer, i grew up playing mario on the NES with her, and even futher back the atari

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really, a mid tower is fine for her

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 10:12 PM

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basically, see if you can snap up an old HTPC from someone else

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:12 PM

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she doesn't need anything tiny

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ah yes

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less effort

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i'm also gonna find an H61 board and bring back my i5-2400 for a Linux Box™️, will buy a 2.5" SSD for it of course as the sole drive

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

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the reason i circle around the HTPC one is that it is quite likely fairly quiet

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

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ah

heady raven Sep 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

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which i doubt your mum would complain about :)

dry root Sep 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

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yeah she's literally got this HP business box with a GTX 1050

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right now

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one of the big chonky ones

short lodge Sep 15, 2020, 12:39 AM

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ok so may or may not be the right place to ask, but im gonna be completely wiping the hard drive on my laptop soon, and there's a minecraft world on there i'd like to save. Any idea of how i would back up my minecraft world? lol

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like, just the world. i dont need to back up the whole game lmao

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i could if needed tho

open gazelle Sep 15, 2020, 12:44 AM

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zip it and use USB stick, LAN transfer file to other PC, cloud storage or smth? @short lodge

red jay Sep 15, 2020, 12:47 AM

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ok so may or may not be the right place to ask, but im gonna be completely wiping the hard drive on my laptop soon, and there's a minecraft world on there i'd like to save. Any idea of how i would back up my minecraft world? lol
@short lodge and the way to do the above stated by hei is to download the world by pressing it in minecraft

short lodge Sep 15, 2020, 12:49 AM

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ok cool thanks

worn gate Sep 15, 2020, 8:55 AM

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anyone know if the addlink s70 is a good ssd?

minor sun Sep 15, 2020, 11:11 AM

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Yes

minor sun Sep 15, 2020, 2:47 PM

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HMMMM

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sweet badge Sep 15, 2020, 3:43 PM

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kekw garbage

minor sun Sep 15, 2020, 3:52 PM

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HMB and Dram

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Hmm who would be knowledgeable about SSDs

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@plush crag got any idea on how dram+hmb works?

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Or would work?

plush crag Sep 15, 2020, 3:53 PM

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google

sand onyx Sep 15, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Dual Core go brrrr.

jade ocean Sep 15, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Anyone know of a good cloud storage array?

heady raven Sep 15, 2020, 5:28 PM

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@jade ocean backblaze

jade ocean Sep 15, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Ill search for it

heady raven Sep 15, 2020, 5:29 PM

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https://www.backblaze.com/

Backblaze Online Backup

Cloud storage that is astonishingly easy and low-cost.

jade ocean Sep 15, 2020, 5:30 PM

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@heady raven Would you know of an array of HD Storage Capacities that would be good to use out of a home network?

heady raven Sep 15, 2020, 5:31 PM

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you mean, setting up your own "local" cloud storage?

jade ocean Sep 15, 2020, 5:32 PM

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@heady raven Yea is that possible or safe?

heady raven Sep 15, 2020, 5:32 PM

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its possible

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if its safe or not, that depends entirely on the person doing the setup and the users using it

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https://www.freenas.org/

FreeNAS - Open Source Storage Operating System

FreeNAS Storage Operating System | Open Source - FreeNAS - Open Sou...

Free & Open Source unified file and block storage, VM, and Docker system with templates, a self-healing file system, snapshots, and replication.

jade ocean Sep 15, 2020, 5:33 PM

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@heady raven Thanks for your help Naed

heady raven Sep 15, 2020, 5:34 PM

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you are very welcome :)

jade ocean Sep 15, 2020, 5:50 PM

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@heady raven Naed if your still around any clue on how i could use my cell data network on a laptop do you know if there are like dongles or adapters i could fit my SIM card into and use Cell Network for data on a CPU?

heady raven Sep 15, 2020, 5:50 PM

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there are a couple of ways you can do that

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the simplest one is using your phone as a hotspot

upper quiver Sep 15, 2020, 6:47 PM

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just got 2 brand new 3TB hdds for $97.20

jade ocean Sep 15, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Is there a deal?

upper quiver Sep 15, 2020, 6:52 PM

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ebay

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always a deal

jade ocean Sep 15, 2020, 6:57 PM

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@upper quiver 👍

undone widget Sep 15, 2020, 8:04 PM

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what's the best way to move windows 10 from my existing ssd to a new one these days

minor sun Sep 15, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Macrium reflect iirc

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Clean install best option compared to moving tho

undone widget Sep 15, 2020, 8:05 PM

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yeah I probably should do that

heady raven Sep 15, 2020, 8:06 PM

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how long ago did you do that windows install @undone widget ?

undone widget Sep 15, 2020, 8:06 PM

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not even that long ago I think

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like a few months ago

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I also kept the same install when I moved the ssd from my old motherboard/cpu to the new one

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I dunno if thats good or not

heady raven Sep 15, 2020, 8:16 PM

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generally its considered good form to do a new install at that point

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so you are due a new install of windows

undone widget Sep 15, 2020, 8:18 PM

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yeah, I might as well

gritty solar Sep 16, 2020, 1:30 AM

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hi

winter remnant Sep 16, 2020, 1:59 AM

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how much storage should I get

shut furnace Sep 16, 2020, 2:25 AM

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for main drive minimum i say 256gb, but get however much fits your needs

worn gate Sep 16, 2020, 2:26 AM

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what's the best budget ssd for 512gb

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friend will mostly be gaming

short lodge Sep 16, 2020, 2:48 AM

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T force Vulcannnnn

sand onyx Sep 16, 2020, 6:37 AM

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If you guys are looking for some cheap drives I recommend Netac.

frigid stag Sep 16, 2020, 9:43 PM

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I have a Synology DS1813+, I think the Power supply is not functioning. Symptoms are no status lights unit cannot be found with with Synology find me app, fan and HDD run. I asked in the Synology forum they referred me here for parts. can you help?

heady raven Sep 16, 2020, 9:49 PM

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@frigid stag https://www.synology.com/en-global/products/spare_parts?search_by=product&model=DS1813%2B

Spare Parts | Synology Inc.

Need replace a fan, disk tray, or power supply in your Synology product? Search by product or part and see which are available to order.

frigid stag Sep 17, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Thanks. I was told in the Synology Forum that Newegg had service for Synology. They don't seem to advertise that anywhere I can find. The link you sent shows the PSU price or availability not mentioned. On the up side, I got more response here in 10 minutes than I have from Synology in a month. 🙂

heady raven Sep 17, 2020, 12:09 AM

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hm

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@frigid stag i would recommend you do the following: In neweggs opening hours, there is normally a user online here by the name @teal sequoia

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try and ask them about the synology service part

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if not, then what you want to do is use the UPC number and start googling

twin karma Sep 17, 2020, 11:25 AM

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whats good cheap 500gb nvme m.2

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and good, cheap 1 tb hard drive

minor sun Sep 17, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Just get a 512gb MP34+2tb barracuda
@twin karma

twin karma Sep 17, 2020, 11:29 AM

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i always here the barracuda is unreliable though

minor sun Sep 17, 2020, 11:30 AM

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Where

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Like half of this server uses 2tb barracudas

twin karma Sep 17, 2020, 11:30 AM

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a lot on pc parts picker

minor sun Sep 17, 2020, 11:30 AM

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3tb barracuda does have a really high failure rate

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And I think 6tb?

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But 2tb is fine

twin karma Sep 17, 2020, 11:31 AM

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ok

sand onyx Sep 17, 2020, 12:14 PM

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I'm a big fan of WD and Samsung but that's just me.

minor sun Sep 17, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Samsung HDD?

sand onyx Sep 17, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Storage in general.

minor sun Sep 17, 2020, 12:19 PM

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lel

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imagine if they made a HDD tho

sand onyx Sep 17, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Samsung SSDs/M.2, WD HDD.

minor sun Sep 17, 2020, 12:20 PM

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hmm

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:)

sand onyx Sep 17, 2020, 12:20 PM

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lol

twin karma Sep 17, 2020, 12:20 PM

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samsung would make 500 gb 5400rpm for $100

minor sun Sep 17, 2020, 12:20 PM

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no 50$

sand onyx Sep 17, 2020, 12:20 PM

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lol

hollow sphinx Sep 17, 2020, 11:46 PM

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m.2 hdd

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just a platter hanging out of your m.2 slot

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slicing into your gpu

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rotary saw style

stable pond Sep 18, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Hi to all.
Dose anybody have the experience of setting up and using Gigabyte AIC with Phison memory 8TB?

glacial adder Sep 18, 2020, 4:02 PM

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hello! I am looking to add an extra ssd (1tb or 2tb) to my build. I want to get one that uses a sata cable so that i can mount it to the slot behind my motherboard (bc i have the nzxt h510 case)

minor sun Sep 18, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Team Vulcan 1tb

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100$

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@glacial adder
https://www.newegg.com/team-group-t-force-vulcan-1tb/p/N82E16820331322?&quicklink=true

glacial adder Sep 18, 2020, 4:04 PM

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@minor sun thank you!

winter remnant Sep 18, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Is m.2 the fastest type of ssd you can get

minor sun Sep 18, 2020, 7:06 PM

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M.2 NVMe?

winter remnant Sep 18, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Yes