#storage-devices | Newegg | Page 27

stuck nacelle Jul 28, 2020, 10:40 PM

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i have a tomahawk b450 max

plush crag Jul 28, 2020, 10:40 PM

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NAND flash likes to run hot. The controller does not, that's what can cause throttling.

stuck nacelle Jul 28, 2020, 10:40 PM

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no heatsink on there

plush crag Jul 28, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Honestly you're fine without a heat sink. SN750's are fine drives.

stuck nacelle Jul 28, 2020, 10:40 PM

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so if i get the WD Sn750 i dont really need it?

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alright perfect

plush crag Jul 28, 2020, 10:40 PM

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I mean, are you writing 100GB of files often?

stuck nacelle Jul 28, 2020, 10:41 PM

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LOL nope

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just gonna download windows and like 2 games on it, everything else on a 2tb harddrive

red jay Jul 29, 2020, 3:25 AM

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anyone know how to make my games for now and on install on my hard drive instead of my ssd?

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pls answer someone

shut furnace Jul 29, 2020, 3:50 AM

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install on hdd instead? when installing game just change location. sometimes in launcher settings there is a location option as well

minor sun Jul 29, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Ye launcher settings for steam / epic / uplay / whatever

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It has a default download location

shut furnace Jul 29, 2020, 3:53 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/LjtVS71.png

Imgur

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ex

cold bobcat Jul 29, 2020, 1:28 PM

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Not sure if this is the right place for this but i was hunting for some SSD's to upgrade some old platter HDD's of mine and i came across two of what looks like the same drives. The spec sheet shows them as identical except for the serial #, does anyone have any insight on the difference between this item (Seagate Model ZA1000CM10003) and Newegg Item # N82E16820248104 (Seagate Model ZA1000CM1A003)?

loud estuary Jul 29, 2020, 3:40 PM

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I mean s/n is different for every item, it is a way for a manufacturer to identify a specific item

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If they have the same Seagate model number it's pretty safe to assume they are the same

azure edge Jul 29, 2020, 3:42 PM

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i think it might be one of those things if you guys have heard about it like how drive manufacturers are using shingled layering or whatever its called instead of the regular layering

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idk for sure youd have to do more research

loud estuary Jul 29, 2020, 3:43 PM

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This is an SSD, not hdd

azure edge Jul 29, 2020, 3:43 PM

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oh oops

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nvm then

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lmao

loud estuary Jul 29, 2020, 3:43 PM

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But $114 seems a little pricey for a cheap 1 TB sata

azure edge Jul 29, 2020, 3:43 PM

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idk most are around that

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except for the silicon power one which is really cheap

loud estuary Jul 29, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Mp34 is like $15 more for nvme

azure edge Jul 29, 2020, 3:45 PM

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ok @cold bobcat i think one of them is just more outdated

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after looking at seagate's webpage they only list one of those model numbers

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so im assuming one is older than the other

loud estuary Jul 29, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Yh, I stand corrected. Didn't realize that sata 1 TB were almost as much as value nvme

cold bobcat Jul 29, 2020, 3:46 PM

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that is the conclusion i came to, looks like the M1A version is from 2020 whereas the M10 one is from 2019

azure edge Jul 29, 2020, 3:46 PM

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yeah i think so

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that would make the most sense given

cold bobcat Jul 29, 2020, 3:47 PM

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r/w speed, iops, everything else seemed fine so i ordered it

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i am kinda curious why the new edition is on sale but the older one is not

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but $106 seems fine to me for a 1TB

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comparable samsung was $20 more

loud estuary Jul 29, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Yeah, dat samsung premium

cold bobcat Jul 29, 2020, 3:50 PM

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i went with samsung for my nvme but i figured i'd try someone different for this SSD

loud estuary Jul 29, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Yeah. mp34 is literally $100 less than evo plus for a small dif in performance

cold bobcat Jul 29, 2020, 3:51 PM

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its the same thing with the seagate firecuda's, only difference i saw between the barracuda and it was +10k iops read for ~$80 more, didnt seem logical

open gazelle Jul 29, 2020, 7:31 PM

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@loud estuary SATA pricing has gone down again. $86 or so for 1tb. I've gone against Sunbow for a bit but afaik 480gb+ is good. 1tb Sunbow is like $86.

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VS $120 for EX950

loud estuary Jul 29, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Isn't sunbow a Dram:? tho?

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This is why I need access to pricechecking APIs lol

minor sun Jul 29, 2020, 7:47 PM

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@loud estuary tcsb is bad because it's a bunch of different drives that get rebranded as just the sunbrow

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so it's wacky

loud estuary Jul 29, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Ah, so it's kinda a gamble then

red jay Jul 29, 2020, 10:23 PM

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need a case for A HARD DRIVE

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any recommendations?

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don't care what it looks like as long as it works

open gazelle Jul 29, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I think it might just be the lower ends one that are whack. I think 480gb+ is good

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But damn tho. 1tb Mushkin Helix L is $102, has HMB

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and is NVMe

craggy scarab Jul 30, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Hey guys im a first time builder is it a good idea to go only NVMe ssds?

minor sun Jul 30, 2020, 7:07 AM

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For what budget

craggy scarab Jul 30, 2020, 7:08 AM

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1000-1500

minor sun Jul 30, 2020, 7:08 AM

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If you have 3000$ to spend and want 2 2tb sticks sure I guess

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Well how much storage do you want?

craggy scarab Jul 30, 2020, 7:08 AM

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2 TB

minor sun Jul 30, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Depending on how much of the budget you can spare, you might be able to fit in a 2tb sabrent rocket, but a safe bet is always a 512gb mp34 and a 2tb Seagate barracuda

craggy scarab Jul 30, 2020, 7:11 AM

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cool thank you for the help

loud estuary Jul 30, 2020, 5:48 PM

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I think this is looking pretty nice, I just need to actually add price checking

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kind sierra Jul 30, 2020, 7:04 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFLiKClKKhs
He did it

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dawn sand Jul 30, 2020, 7:22 PM

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When you have money to spend

kind sierra Jul 30, 2020, 7:23 PM

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It was lended for a review

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He broke it btw

dawn sand Jul 30, 2020, 7:25 PM

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What serious

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Omg

somber remnant Jul 30, 2020, 7:25 PM

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yea

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he took it apart

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and put it back incorrectly

dawn sand Jul 30, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Oh

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I’ll watch video....maybe

somber remnant Jul 30, 2020, 7:25 PM

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oh and he threw it

red jay Jul 30, 2020, 7:25 PM

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when i buy a tower for my pc, does it come with a place to install a hard drive?

somber remnant Jul 30, 2020, 7:25 PM

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to mess with viewers

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@red jay most likely yes

red jay Jul 30, 2020, 7:26 PM

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okay

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thanks 🙂

kind sierra Jul 30, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Some of the really small and cheap ones don't

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But almost all do

open gazelle Jul 30, 2020, 7:37 PM

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@loud estuary the thing is, does that automatically pull any updates from the list? The list still does change from time to time

loud estuary Jul 30, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Yep 🙂

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Using an import function by row, so that I can change the column order

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minor sun Jul 30, 2020, 8:13 PM

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nice

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though how are you gonna pull prices?

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does Newegg have an API you could call into or something?

loud estuary Jul 30, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Amazon has a API for affiliates, so I will see if they will approve my application. I'm also looking at some scraping options from PCPP, but that is a headache

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Otherwise I am an Amazon seller and could potential pull data via the seller API, but I'd need write an external code or sheets app and to be careful not to try to pull to much at once

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Basically it's really hard and I'm working on it 🙂

kind sierra Jul 30, 2020, 8:21 PM

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pcpp scraper wouldn't be that bad

open gazelle Jul 30, 2020, 8:23 PM

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I feel like pcpp scraper would be less of a headache then Amazon+Newegg+B&H+Best buy... Then all the other options if not US person

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Tho I guess the other thing is that what happens if things are added or removed? It'll change the row order

loud estuary Jul 30, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Yeah, I'd need to keep an eye on that or find an automated solution. I'd also want to get permission from the original creators before I start linking it all over

PCPP scraping is easier than Amazon scraping, but not nessisarly easier than an Amazon API. And yh, that's also valid

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If anyone here is a google sheets pro, I'm low-key stuck on the formula

open gazelle Jul 30, 2020, 9:42 PM

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I know one of my friends who isn't on this server is good with excel. Wonder if it'd be ideal to have him help

kind sierra Jul 30, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Excel is... less than ideal for something that needs to be live updated like this

loud estuary Jul 31, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Sheets doesn't handle a ton of functions like excel, but the accessablity is unmatched. I can post my issue on here later and see if someone can help :)

heavy light Jul 31, 2020, 11:16 PM

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problem with my storage device not being recognize

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its my hdd

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i just installed windows on my new pc

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i installed it on my m.2 but had the option to install it on the hdd as well

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so i dont think its plugged in wrong

somber remnant Jul 31, 2020, 11:21 PM

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go to control panel

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and then to create and format hard disk partitions

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and then click create partition on your hdd

exotic adder Aug 1, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Just ordered a new ssd finally. No more sshds!

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https://www.newegg.com/team-group-t-force-vulcan-1tb/p/N82E16820331322?Item=N82E16820331322

Team Group T-Force VULCAN 2.5" 1TB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid ...

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indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 5:33 AM

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my friend wants an ssd under 60$ with a minimum storage of 500gb but fast too

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suggestions?

plush crag Aug 1, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Spend $65, get a wd black sn750 in #tech-deals

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 5:36 AM

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it's 70$?

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 5:37 AM

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ADATA XPG SX850

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YFF3JCN is that fine?

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Does it have dram?

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 5:50 AM

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don't think so

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idk how to find out

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 5:52 AM

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It does not

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You want dram

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 5:53 AM

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what's it do?

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Makes the drive faster and last a lot longer

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Without dram, you can see it die within a year

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 5:54 AM

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holy crap

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J2WBKXF

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how about that

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wait a minute

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why does the one without dram boot into windows in 3 seconds but the one i linked boots into windows in 20 seconds

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but I think the P1 has dram

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if im not mistaken

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 6:00 AM

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It does

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 6:01 AM

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how come it boots into windows slower if dram makes it faster?

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Where are you seeing the windows boot times?

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3 seconds is highly sus

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 6:03 AM

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it was in a verified purchased amazon review for it

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and the guy listed his specs

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idk if I fully trust it

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 6:04 AM

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They're probably fudging numbers

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 6:04 AM

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oh okay

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Or reading the wrong number

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 6:04 AM

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I'll look at a video on the speeds of it on youtube and compare it

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Don't bother with boot time

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They'll be close enough to not make a difference

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 6:04 AM

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how come

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oh

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will it be faster than my hdd though

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Yes

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 6:05 AM

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because for my windows to load up and all the apps I have installed it takes like 10 minutes

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 6:05 AM

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My guess is about 30 seconds to be logged in and loaded

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 6:06 AM

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okay I just disabled a lot of apps in startup for taskmanager

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so I'm just guessing he should go with the P1

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oh but https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16820301427 what about that

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Not available rn

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Also HMB over DRAM, but will be a bit higher latency and use some of your ram. It's decent though

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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will the latency be noticeable?

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Depends

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It not be too bad

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 6:18 AM

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hmm

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when you say use some if you could estimate, what would you say the percentage it would use out of 100%

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Maybe 64MB

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 6:21 AM

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hm, won't be that much

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it's 7 seconds faster in boot time and 5$ less than P1

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but uses some of my ram and has a little higher latency

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Don't measure performance on boot time

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It means nothing

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 6:40 AM

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true true

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i'll go with the p1

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oh and the p1 is qlc

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 6:47 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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tlc is better, but eh

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Get it if you can

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 6:48 AM

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ok

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the one without dram is TLC

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XJ2P1LK that one is TLC, has DRAM and is cheaper, but I'm giving up some of the R/W speed

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is it worth it?

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 7:20 AM

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Dram is better than tlc

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 7:28 AM

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@kind sierra wdym?

exotic adder Aug 1, 2020, 7:28 AM

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listen to bob, dram it

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 7:28 AM

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If you are given the choice of dram/hmb with QLC and no dram/hmb with TLC, take the dram

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 7:28 AM

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oh nono I said that the SSD I linked is TLC and has DRAM

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 7:28 AM

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Oh, has dram

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Okay

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TLC + DRAM = gold

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 7:29 AM

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okay good

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and it's cheaper too

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 7:29 AM

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👍

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 7:29 AM

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it's a step down than the one mr1111 is like married to

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the MP33

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 7:29 AM

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Ah yes

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Technically hmb, but good

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 7:30 AM

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okay, thank you so much for the help 😄

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also, my mb doesn't have a cover for the m.2 so do I need to take the sticker off of the SSD or can I keep it on

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 7:31 AM

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Just keep it on

indigo dune Aug 1, 2020, 8:36 AM

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ok ty

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@kind sierra also I decided to just spend a little extra and just go for the MP34 since I'll be using it long term

balmy cave Aug 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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hey what is this server about

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i forgot why i am here

minor sun Aug 1, 2020, 2:58 PM

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It's about anime

kind sierra Aug 1, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Tech

loud estuary Aug 1, 2020, 5:17 PM

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We dunno what you are talking about... we definitely aren't all tech nerds 👀

azure edge Aug 1, 2020, 10:24 PM

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true

upper quiver Aug 2, 2020, 5:53 PM

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pppotty

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SAS II 4x300gb 10k RAID 0

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plush crag Aug 2, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Chef_Kiss

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You have it set up for hardware raid?

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What HBA?

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Didn't want to set it to IT mode?

upper quiver Aug 2, 2020, 6:15 PM

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running on an ASUS PIKE 2008

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the bios config page didnt have very many options

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also, I'm not sure what mode its currently running in, I havent flashed it with anything

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oh, after googling, its in IR mode, I didnt want to mess with RAID through disk manager

versed bane Aug 3, 2020, 10:20 PM

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new SSD shows up in device manager, but not in file explorer. Any thoughts on how to fix?

shut furnace Aug 3, 2020, 10:27 PM

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go to disk management, it is probably unallocated

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right click and format if so

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@versed bane

versed bane Aug 3, 2020, 10:29 PM

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thank you.. i was just blind the last time i looked in disk mgmt

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@shut furnace

shut furnace Aug 3, 2020, 10:29 PM

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👍

exotic adder Aug 4, 2020, 2:16 AM

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1tb mp34 vs 1tb sabrent?

hushed wharf Aug 4, 2020, 2:20 AM

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which sabrent

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q or regular

exotic adder Aug 4, 2020, 2:21 AM

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q

hushed wharf Aug 4, 2020, 2:24 AM

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I would say the mp34

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it's tlc instead of qlc

exotic adder Aug 4, 2020, 2:25 AM

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kinda the way I was leaning

hushed wharf Aug 4, 2020, 2:27 AM

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I went way overkill on my storage lol

exotic adder Aug 4, 2020, 2:28 AM

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I'm going with 1 x 1tb m.2 and 1 x 1tb ssd backup

hushed wharf Aug 4, 2020, 2:28 AM

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exotic adder Aug 4, 2020, 2:29 AM

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eventually i'll probably toss in a second m.2

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whoa

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i was looking at the 970 E+ originally

hushed wharf Aug 4, 2020, 2:29 AM

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It's usually a waste, but I got it for $75

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for a 500gb

azure edge Aug 4, 2020, 10:08 PM

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fr?

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I got mine for like 100 bucks

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but then again that was during the pandemic and asia was affected

minor sun Aug 5, 2020, 1:22 AM

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970evo is always like 100$ 500gb retail

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dats why samsung expensive

exotic adder Aug 5, 2020, 1:24 AM

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I'd love to have one, but, yeah, price

shut pawn Aug 5, 2020, 1:43 AM

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So I ordered a 2 TB Western Digital ssd and it came with a free 120 GB ssd. I thought it would have came with some sort of software so I can move my OS and games from my Hard Drive to the ssd but there is nothing, anyone familiar and can steer me towards the right direction?

pale torrent Aug 5, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Is Seagate Barracuda 1 TB and Kingston 240GB SSD good for a begging pc ?

open gazelle Aug 5, 2020, 2:19 AM

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2tb HDD is barely more then a 1tb and are you talking about the A400 SSD? Lot of kingston SSDs. The A400 is one of the worst SSDs on the market tbh. So not that ideal

exotic adder Aug 5, 2020, 2:43 AM

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hmm https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=9SIAME8ANV9541%2C20-331-508%2C20-331-309

upper quiver Aug 5, 2020, 2:45 AM

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1tb ssds are hard to justify cost wise. 512gb NVMe drives are the best price/performance wise

exotic adder Aug 5, 2020, 2:46 AM

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well I need more than 512gb of space

upper quiver Aug 5, 2020, 2:46 AM

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for?

exotic adder Aug 5, 2020, 2:47 AM

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games and stuff. I'm at. hold on

upper quiver Aug 5, 2020, 2:47 AM

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how much of this actually needs ssd tho

exotic adder Aug 5, 2020, 2:47 AM

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I'm going with an ssd only system

upper quiver Aug 5, 2020, 2:47 AM

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after 512gb, your really paying for that extra storage

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most games dont need ssd

exotic adder Aug 5, 2020, 2:48 AM

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I don't have space for other drives

upper quiver Aug 5, 2020, 2:48 AM

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most files dont need ssd

exotic adder Aug 5, 2020, 2:48 AM

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this system is ssd only

upper quiver Aug 5, 2020, 2:48 AM

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why

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is it SFF?

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will it be moved around alot?

exotic adder Aug 5, 2020, 2:49 AM

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because that is what I want it to be, lightweight. I can't deal with a heavy system anymore

upper quiver Aug 5, 2020, 2:49 AM

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a single 2tb HDD isnt gonna add enough to be noticable

exotic adder Aug 5, 2020, 2:50 AM

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ditching two sshds for a 1tb ssd 2.5, and eventually that will be the backup while an m.2 becomes the main drive

upper quiver Aug 5, 2020, 2:50 AM

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what sshds do you have rn?

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and why dont you keep using em?

exotic adder Aug 5, 2020, 2:50 AM

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firecudas, and they are NOT an option

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because they don't fit in the case with my psu

upper quiver Aug 5, 2020, 2:51 AM

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what case

exotic adder Aug 5, 2020, 2:51 AM

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just, nevermind.

upper quiver Aug 5, 2020, 2:51 AM

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what, im curious

exotic adder Aug 5, 2020, 3:11 AM

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iCUE 220T RGB The drive bay had to be removed for the PSU Cables to have any room at all. It was that or start bending things

echo pond Aug 5, 2020, 8:16 PM

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so umm

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just found out

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i have 4gb of RAM

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happy days

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crap wrong server

shut furnace Aug 5, 2020, 11:46 PM

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ThinkingEgg

minor sun Aug 5, 2020, 11:46 PM

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@echo pond which server is the right server

echo pond Aug 5, 2020, 11:46 PM

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i would assume memory

shut furnace Aug 5, 2020, 11:47 PM

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There is no other server but here

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KermitVader

echo pond Aug 5, 2020, 11:47 PM

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cpu mobos and memory

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oh i said server not chat lmao

minor sun Aug 5, 2020, 11:47 PM

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lol

mint mountain Aug 6, 2020, 10:26 AM

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so if i get an nvme ssd and a hdd will it still boot up fast?

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well not fast but as the nvme speed

lone spear Aug 6, 2020, 2:24 PM

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if you install windows on the ssd then yes

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whichever is the boot drive

shut furnace Aug 6, 2020, 2:26 PM

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boot drive matters for boot speeds and system responsiveness, etc. for larger files like games photos videos and such you can use a hdd no problem, I keep the os and main apps on the ssd

mint mountain Aug 6, 2020, 4:42 PM

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ok thanks

loud nest Aug 6, 2020, 4:56 PM

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How do I know if this ssd is compatible with my pc
my pc

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Cant post links

sweet badge Aug 6, 2020, 5:12 PM

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@loud nest dm me the links and i can send them and answer you

nocturne valve Aug 7, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Hi whats the Mist repliable 2TO hdd? Seagate firacuda or Western Digital black?

kind sierra Aug 7, 2020, 5:48 PM

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The most reliable will be one of the data center grade helium drives. Personally I wouldn't trust the firecuda. The seagate barracuda compute is one of the best in my opinion

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@nocturne valve

nocturne valve Aug 7, 2020, 5:58 PM

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@kind sierra even most reliable than Westen Digital blue (I think it equivalent to barracuda)?

kind sierra Aug 7, 2020, 5:58 PM

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What are you looking at storing on it?

rugged socket Aug 7, 2020, 9:54 PM

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is a $100 1tb m.2 be worth it over a $55 2tb ihd?

heady raven Aug 7, 2020, 9:55 PM

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if it is the only drive in the system? yes, a thousand times yes

minor sun Aug 7, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Depends on the exact SSD

rugged socket Aug 7, 2020, 9:55 PM

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one sec

minor sun Aug 7, 2020, 9:55 PM

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And the other drives (or lack thereof)

rugged socket Aug 7, 2020, 9:55 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mwrYcf/seagate-barracuda-computer-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm008

Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

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vs

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pxKcCJ/crucial-p1-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct1000p1ssd8

Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

heady raven Aug 7, 2020, 9:56 PM

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and now the important question: Is it the only drive in the system?

rugged socket Aug 7, 2020, 9:56 PM

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it is

heady raven Aug 7, 2020, 9:56 PM

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then refer to what i said earlier.

rugged socket Aug 7, 2020, 9:56 PM

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ok thank you

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the ihd would be good for an upgrade if needed though right

minor sun Aug 7, 2020, 9:57 PM

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If you needed more mass storage yes

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If you needed more space for games/programs no

rugged socket Aug 7, 2020, 9:58 PM

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are games/programs not able to be stored on a ihd or is it not fast for that

heady raven Aug 7, 2020, 9:58 PM

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@minor sun when it is the only drive in the system. HDD is NOT a logical/sane choice

minor sun Aug 7, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Yea

heady raven Aug 7, 2020, 9:59 PM

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and it will be his only drive.

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so, SSD is the choice.

rugged socket Aug 7, 2020, 9:59 PM

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then that is the one

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i use the cloud for documents and stuff

heady raven Aug 7, 2020, 10:00 PM

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@rugged socket games can be stored just fine on a HDD. Just please take my very short answer for it: SSD = snappier system, happier you.

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I can give you the long answer, but it is very long.

rugged socket Aug 7, 2020, 10:00 PM

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haha long isn’t need right now

heady raven Aug 7, 2020, 10:00 PM

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fair :)

rugged socket Aug 7, 2020, 10:00 PM

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but thank you

uneven jackal Aug 8, 2020, 12:06 AM

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The only stuff I keep on my HDD are steam game files, and because I don't care about losing game-files, I just buy these dirt cheap $15 used 1TB hard drives from Ebay.
Save your cash for the SSD.

short lodge Aug 8, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Used storage is wack

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but, there are some used 2TB HDDs going for $25 rn, and that's a pretty dang good deal

uneven jackal Aug 8, 2020, 12:31 AM

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If it still spins and doesn't get all clicky, it's all good

short lodge Aug 8, 2020, 12:31 AM

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lots of them have a few bad sectors sometimes

uneven jackal Aug 8, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Do a full disk scan once you get the drive, if there's bad sectors, the seller usually just does a full refund and don't even ask for the drive back.

short lodge Aug 8, 2020, 12:32 AM

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100% of the time, they have bad sectors, 75% of the time

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nah, lots of sellers say that it will be at least 95% health or something, with a maximum amount of bad sectors

uneven jackal Aug 8, 2020, 12:32 AM

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I only got 1 drive with a bad sector before, out of around a dozen purchased, and they just refunded fully.

short lodge Aug 8, 2020, 12:33 AM

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lucky ducky

uneven jackal Aug 8, 2020, 12:33 AM

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It's not worth the seller's time to process a return, most of the bulk-sellers that sell a ton of these drives are getting the drives for free as part of e-waste, wiping them, and then flipping in bulk.

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The 24 one from Esiso for example, those are all HP enterprise decomissioned drives coming out of servers that probably have gone all flash

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those are gonna be 100% fine, trust me.

short lodge Aug 8, 2020, 12:35 AM

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I actually bought one

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havent tested it yet, gonna use it for my next Ryzen PC

heady raven Aug 8, 2020, 2:20 AM

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@uneven jackal "that probably have gone all flash" <- normally its just normal drive rotation that does it. Depending on the setting ofc, it is more likely (easier on maintenance) to just force rotate drives out of the storage pools

nocturne valve Aug 8, 2020, 2:27 AM

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@kind sierra i want to install software ans Games. I got a 500 SSD for Windows, and my 1 TO hhd is almost full... 😩 I need a new hhd!

kind sierra Aug 8, 2020, 2:31 AM

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@nocturne valve For software and games, pretty much any drive will be reliable enough

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The main thing for those use cases is performance, and the 2TB barracuda compute has pretty decent read/writes speeds

upper quiver Aug 8, 2020, 4:00 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20200808-115908.png

sweet badge Aug 8, 2020, 6:20 PM

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📎 image0.png

vestal reef Aug 9, 2020, 12:51 AM

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🙃

shut furnace Aug 9, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Chef_Kiss

red jay Aug 9, 2020, 4:38 PM

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So my 970 Evo plus won't register on my Asus Rog Strix b450 atx mobo

kind sierra Aug 9, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Does it show up in bios?

red jay Aug 9, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Yes

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But not when I check storage

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Or when I go to download something

loud estuary Aug 9, 2020, 5:45 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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You probably need to go into disk management and initialize the drive

red jay Aug 9, 2020, 7:53 PM

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It has been

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It works on my laptop

kind sierra Aug 9, 2020, 8:15 PM

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You will need to initialize it with the b450 motherboard, possibly reformat it

red jay Aug 10, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Thanks yall

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That worked

normal lichen Aug 10, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Hi I bought from you a GIGABYTE BRIX GB-BRI7H-10710 Mini / Booksize Barebone System. I want to mount my existing 2.5" hard drive from my old Brix to the new one. The bracket on the existing 2.5" hard drive holes do not align with the new Brix's . What am I to do ????

karmic flume Aug 11, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Computer data storage is a technology consisting of computer components and recording media that are used to retain digital data. It is a core function and fundamental component of computers. The central processing unit of a computer is what manipulates data by performing computations.

kind sierra Aug 11, 2020, 4:05 AM

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True dat

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I prefer the simpler explenation though:
A computer is a tool that reads numbers to make numbers do things to other numbers

smoky otter Aug 11, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Hi All,
I have a Dell Precision laptop, which my cat decided to spill an entire glass of water onto. The laptop works now that it's dried out, except that it won't boot up with the current hard drive card. I have a spare, but that doesn't have my programs or data files on it.
Is there a way to recover the files and programs?
I don't have a second slot inside the computer, and Dell doesn't seem keen to help me out...

vapid path Aug 11, 2020, 3:58 PM

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@smoky otter There are USB drive cages you can get that allow you to remove the old drive and put it in that and plug it into a USB so you can copy files to your new drive. See https://www.newegg.com/orico-2139u3-bk-enclosure/p/0VN-0003-000Z5?Description=external drive cage manhattan&cm_re=external_drive cage manhattan-_-9SIA1DS4VX9128-_-Product&quicklink=true

smoky otter Aug 11, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Hi Duane' - Yes, but my concern is that I will further damage the drive. I've talked with a couple of data recovery companies, and they're talking $3-4000 to recover the files from it. I can't afford that...
Is there any risk of my damaging the SSD?

short lodge Aug 11, 2020, 4:21 PM

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I’d say the best way is to get one of those USB to SATA adapters. It won’t necessarily damage the drive when doing it.
You’re gonna want to take the old drive out, then put the new one in, then install windows, then use that USB to SATA adapter to plug in the old hard drive, and see what you can get off of it. It’s really your best choice right now.

vapid path Aug 11, 2020, 4:27 PM

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@smoky otter I'm a Systems Engineer with an IT company. Simply plugging the drive into a USB to Sata (adapter cable or cage) will not harm the drive. Nobody pulls platters out of Spindle Drives and reassembles them any more which is why the high price if you TRULY want data recovery. If the $10 cage I recommended doesn't work, you are out $10 and have learned an important lesson to have a proper backup of your data. There are several backup options available dependent on your ease of use; External USB multi-terabyte drive (typically under $100) or if using an O365 solution, you get up to 1TB of storage else you can go with a 3rd party Cloud solution like Jungle Disk or Carbonite.

kind sierra Aug 11, 2020, 5:29 PM

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It sounds like you have an SSD, which will be fine. At this point, it's either dead or not, so you have nothing to lose

smoky otter Aug 11, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I was able to see the drive in the BIOS, and I was able to see the c: at the dos prompt, and was also able to see the directories on the drive. So all hope is not completely lost yet.
Yes, this is a PCIe x 4 SSD card. The crazy thing (shoot me now) is that I have a backup drive (3, actually) but haven't backed it up in 3 years. I keep meaning to setup cloud backup, but never seem to remember.

I have a new drive already, with fully functioning Win 10 Pro on it. So it's just a question of getting a cable or box for the old drive, and see if the computer can see it as an external drive, I guess.

kind sierra Aug 12, 2020, 5:03 AM

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It might be necessary to use a data recovery tool if it lost the file system. Whatever you do, don't save anything to the drive

frank copper Aug 12, 2020, 7:46 AM

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How is Sabrent Rocket compared to say WD black or Samsung Evo+

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Err 1tb

minor sun Aug 12, 2020, 7:47 AM

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Same basically

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No real difference other than like warrenty difference or some rating difference

frank copper Aug 12, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Do each come with software to clone? I saw the rocket can get hot too. But with good fans I don't know if that's a non-issue

vapid path Aug 12, 2020, 12:27 PM

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@smoky otter That cage I recommended will work with SSD or Spindle to recover your data from that drive. Windows 10 also has a backup option where you leave your external USB drive plugged in. Start | Backup Settings | More options | select the folders you want to backup.

warm meteor Aug 12, 2020, 2:43 PM

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On that master list of ssd what would be best to look for? I'm sick of hdd now. Boots so slow. Could I copy everything over or should I use it as a slave?

loud estuary Aug 12, 2020, 7:55 PM

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**SSD Considerations: **
• DRAM/HMB: DRAM/HMB is basically ram on your SSD that stores metadata (google it). An SSD without DRAM can get much slower than a HHD as it fills up. HMD allows your SSD to use your system memory for this, but not all systems support it. DRAM/HMB is the pretty much the most important consideration when purchasing an SSD. DRAM >> HMB >>> DRAM-less.
• Bits per cell: SLC (1) > MLC (2) > TLC (3) > QLC (4). TLC is the norm, the more bits per cell, the less durable and fast.
• Interface: NVMe SSD > SATA SSD > HHD. NVMe drives are much faster than SATA SSDs, which are much faster than HHDs. Don't assume all M.2 SSDs are better than Serial ATA. M.2 is just the form factor, they can still be Sata drives and run slower.
• Law of Diminishing Returns: SATA SSDs with DRAM offer tangible speed improvements, but a HHD --> SATA SSD is a much bigger jump in performance than an SSD --> NVME or an NVME --> Gen 4 NVMe. Don't feel that you need to buy the newest Gen 4 NVMe, they don't offer that much more than a good Gen 3
• Brand: Don't shop for a brand, shop for the product. Some brands (AHEM Samsung) make good products but charge a premium for them.
• Speed: Faster is better, but keep in mind the Law of Diminishing Returns.

Use this master spreadsheet to find the above information: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit#gid=0

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@warm meteor

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It's best to do a clean windows install, but you can clone it if you really want to

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MP34 and SN750 are generally some of the best value

open gazelle Aug 12, 2020, 9:46 PM

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@loud estuary fairly good round up, but controllers need some love as well. Can't say much for them as to how, in detail, they affect perf tho

hollow sphinx Aug 12, 2020, 9:49 PM

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would there be any downside to using a NAS drive in a regular desktop

minor sun Aug 12, 2020, 9:51 PM

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speed is usually slower afaik

hollow sphinx Aug 12, 2020, 9:51 PM

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my understanding is that they're more durable and designed for RAID, but i can't find any info on whether they'd be explicitly worse at anything

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as in 5400RPM?

minor sun Aug 12, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Ye

hollow sphinx Aug 12, 2020, 9:51 PM

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my current hard drive is 5400RPM anyways since i pulled it from a laptop

minor sun Aug 12, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Alright

hollow sphinx Aug 12, 2020, 9:52 PM

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so there won't be any downside for me?

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i'm getting this NAS drive for free

minor sun Aug 12, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Yea afaik, wait for more knowledgeable people tho

loud estuary Aug 12, 2020, 10:22 PM

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@loud estuary fairly good round up, but controllers need some love as well. Can't say much for them as to how, in detail, they affect perf tho
@open gazelle Yeah. I should educate myself on all that too and add it in 🙂

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Can you buy heat sinks for NVMe's?

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:04 AM

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You can, but you don't need to

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:05 AM

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I'm wondering if I should shell out for an extra 128GB NVMe for my OS/Applications and then a 500GB NVMe for my games.

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:06 AM

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I wouldn't bother

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:06 AM

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I say you shell out for a single 512gb MP34

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Without heatsink

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:06 AM

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MP34 ?

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Just stick em both on the same drive

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:06 AM

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It's the model of a drive

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Team mp34 is a model of nvme ssd

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r/beatmetoit

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Lol

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Sn750 if the sale is still going on

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:06 AM

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ok reddit user

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sans

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:07 AM

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But mp34 is always a solid option for great price to performance

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:07 AM

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also, games don't need nvme

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:07 AM

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So something liek that

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Crucial P1/P2 if you need to save more money

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:07 AM

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you can't post links? oops

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Get rid of https at the start

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:08 AM

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www.newegg.ca/team-group-mp34-1tb/p/N82E16820331309?Description=mp34&cm_re=mp34--20-331-309--Product

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:08 AM

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yeah, that's a good one

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Mp34 ?

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:08 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/team-group-mp34-512gb/p/N82E16820331308

Team Group MP34 M.2 2280 512GB PCIe 3.0 x4 with NVMe 1.3 3D NAND In...

Buy Team Group MP34 M.2 2280 512GB PCIe 3.0 x4 with NVMe 1.3 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) TM8FP4512G0C101 with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Newegg shopping upgraded ™

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:08 AM

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It's an 2280 M.2 ?

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Probably only need the 512

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:08 AM

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512gb/1tb whatever you can afford really

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Moar SSD moar stuff you can download yaknow

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Oh you live in Canada?

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:09 AM

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yeah man

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Max Sequential Read
Up to 3000 MBps
Max Sequential Write
Up to 2600 MBps

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:09 AM

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I gotta cross reference prices then

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Because sn750 might be cheaper in Canada

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Do you work for newegg?

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lol

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Nope

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Just an enthusiast geek, I respect that.

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:10 AM

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The only ones who work for Newegg have orange names

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:10 AM

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the people with the Newegg staff role work for wegg

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Plus Mike

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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yes

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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We're just enthusiasts having fun

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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pogging around

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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I'm actually a minor diety, but yeah

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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ok Linux user

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stare

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:12 AM

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😛

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:12 AM

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I'm looking at replacing an NVMe on a MSi laptop I have now with something smaller, probably a 128GB NVMe. Take the 500GB NVMe from the laptop & put it onto the new mobo sitting aside another NVMe of about 500/1TB.

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!rank

small steppeBOT Aug 13, 2020, 6:12 AM

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XMARK6 notAndrew, that command is disabled in this channel.

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Sn750 is 180$ for 1tb free shipping
https://www.newegg.ca/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-1tb/p/N82E16820250110

Western Digital WD BLACK SN750 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4...

Buy Western Digital WD BLACK SN750 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 64-layer 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) WDS100T3X0C with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Newegg shopping upgraded ™

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:13 AM

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yah I really like the WD Black, too.

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:13 AM

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I'd keep the 500gb in the laptop and just buy a 1tb new SSD

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(if you still use the laptop)

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:13 AM

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I'm throwing Linux on the laptop.

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:13 AM

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nice

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Don't need the space.

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Bob we found one of your kind

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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I would suggest getting a 128gb for the laptop, but just getting a 2tb HDD for the desktop

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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256GB is usually just a bit more expensive than 128GB

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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I don't want a HDD, Sassy. Too slow.

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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500gb nvme plus 2tb HDD is enough for most people

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nah

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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HDD is good for bulk storage

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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too fast for most things

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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I honestly, use about, let me check.

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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a cheap 2tb drive for all your games is all you need

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Sassy it's nice to have an ssd for everything tho :p

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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sure, a few extra seconds for load times, but your overall games experience is the same

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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But do you get the same effective loading times with a platter as an SSD for the games.

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I know my app loading times are way quicker on ssd???

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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seconds tho

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Yeah

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Seconds rack up

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Yah, well, a second lag is a frag.

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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not for load times

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Few seconds here few seconds there and you have a few minutes a day

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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That's load lag, not in game lag

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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:p

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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SassyFish256: I could see for backups and stuff tho

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Once the game is loaded, it'll be fine

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Is that right, Bob.

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Anyways it's just really nice to have a responsive system with apps that load quickly

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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also, this is 2tb. you can install all your games

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Yup. Basically everyone on this server games off of an HDD

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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save money, not have to worry about removing games to fit new ones

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Yup

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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500gb SSD is usually enough to put your most played games on, with games you rarely play on the HDD

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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^

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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also that

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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That's the usual setup

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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MW is like 100GB.

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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120gb now I think

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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heh heh

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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mw is on my hdd

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also mw is 210gb

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smh

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Anyways I like my 1tb SSD, it's just really nice to have and to be able to fit a ton of games I want to play on

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But it's not cost effective

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Yeah

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Do you think having a platter hard drive would restrict the air flow more so than if it wasn't there?

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in the case, that is.

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:18 AM

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What case is it?

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:18 AM

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It's a ATX Full.

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full tower.

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Any decent case, not to any reasonable amount

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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98% of the time, no

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What model?

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Most cases have either drive cages somewhere that doesn't obstruct airflow or have mounting outside the cages

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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It'll be fine

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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You're fine

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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This case is bad ass, it has a spot for the PSU aside the mobo and stuff, so I think the thermals would be better?

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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O11 Is a great case once you fill in the fans lol

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Like if you look at it, the PSU is in another compartmentalized section of the case I think.

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I'm going Liquid cooled.

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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AIO or custom loop?

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Fans on the rad then

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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I'm totally open to opinion.

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Yah.

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Fans on Rad.

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What is AIO ?

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:21 AM

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All in one cooler

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The loop is premade for you

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:21 AM

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All in one, one that's already closed loop

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Yes, AIO.

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The next one will be a custom loop.

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Actually, very custom. I'll have my carpenter buddy put together a table/desk one for me.

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Ooh nice desk PC

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:22 AM

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They're so cool

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Yea

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Slap a glass top on

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:22 AM

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yah man, just looks futuristic.

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:24 AM

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But anyways I personally like having a good 1tb NVMe drive, but it's more cost effective for the conventional 500gb SSD + 2tb HDD

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It's all about what you're willing to spend :D

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:24 AM

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Maybe since I've got a 512GB NVMe, and 2 m.2 mobo slots for it. I'll put those two in there, with a 2TB HDD as well.

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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yeah, 2tb HDD is only like 55

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Check your motherboard compatibility first, some motherboards have second m.2 slot only running SATA

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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whaaaaaaaaaaaat

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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oh yeah almost forgot

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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But I assume since you have an o11 you don't have one of those cheap boards that only support 1 NVMe drive

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Check just in case tho

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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how can they get away with calling it an M.2 with it running SATA ?

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the bus?

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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M.2 is the slot, SATA is the protocol it runs at

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M.2 can support SATA and NVMe

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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blowing my mind here... I thought SATA was Serial Attached

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:27 AM

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it is

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Yup

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:27 AM

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The difference physically on the SSD is that SATA M.2 drives have the B+M key, and NVMe M.2 drives have M key

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:27 AM

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serial ATA

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just a protocol

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Basically, an m.2 slot has the pins for both sata connections and nvme connections

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Anyways if you give us your motherboard model we can check for you

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:28 AM

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and Non Volatile Memory express

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:28 AM

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PRIME X570-P

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Asus

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:28 AM

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oh psh

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yeah that boards got like 3 I think

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Oh and by the way my motherboard is really weird, and this can happen, where ONLY the first M.2 slot supports SATA and NVMe, but the second one only supports NVMe and not SATA

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:28 AM

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all pcie based

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:29 AM

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Yea prob x570 boards usually are good

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B450 have some where it's only 1 SATA 1 NVMe

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:29 AM

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I'm just a little concerned with thermals and heat in my new rig.

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I've bought a 1080

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and it runs at like 82c at 98% load.

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:30 AM

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your SSD should be ok, looking at a pic of the board

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:30 AM

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X570-p supports 3 m.2 drives, all of them can be SATA or NVMe

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tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:30 AM

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SassyFish256: Thanks

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:31 AM

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What kind of cooler is on the 1080?

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:31 AM

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3 fans

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I have no idea.

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hang on

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:31 AM

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brand?

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:31 AM

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It's an MSi

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1080 OC ARMOR.

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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oh, isn't that a dual fan?

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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wait

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let me check

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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at least I thought the armor cards were dual fan

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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Sassy do your thing I'm gonna go sleep now
All I know is MSI 1080ti Duke oc had triple fans

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And the 2070 Duke oc has triple fans

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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yeah

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imma sleep soon too

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Sorry, 2 fans.

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Fair enough good night

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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gn

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Good night MR1111

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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ahh yes, as I thought

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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mr 4 bits

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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nice

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Mr1 works

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Mr nibble

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Heh

tough jetty Aug 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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nibble 😄

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Mr nibble

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That is your name now

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Mr doesn't read manuals works too

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:34 AM

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lol yes

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Alright call me nibbles

upper quiver Aug 13, 2020, 6:34 AM

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nibbles smh

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also I'm on mobile, typing hard

minor sun Aug 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Me too

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Bob is prob on his Linux machine

kind sierra Aug 13, 2020, 6:36 AM

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Yeah

woeful solar Aug 14, 2020, 3:05 AM

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checkthepins

crisp thistle Aug 14, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Good looking out

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Wideus

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It does

woeful solar Aug 14, 2020, 3:07 AM

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👍

normal thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Is wd green ssd 1tb for my laptop a decent storage

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?

torpid adder Aug 14, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Not for boot drive, imo

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As just a new tacked on volume, it's probably decent enough

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Go for at least WD Blue for boot

normal thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:08 PM

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My laptop has a hard drive and it is grinding and driving me crazy

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And I want it gone and have a ssd in it

torpid adder Aug 14, 2020, 7:10 PM

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I suppose you could go for Green if you really want to save a buck

normal thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Idk

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What is a good 1t ssd for the money and it will be a boot drive

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What about a Samsung?

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T5

torpid adder Aug 14, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Those are external drives

normal thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Oh yup lol

torpid adder Aug 14, 2020, 7:16 PM

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The Blue 1TB is 115 USD

normal thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:17 PM

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What about a Samsung 860 qvo

torpid adder Aug 14, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Good drive

normal thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:19 PM

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The Samsung is?

torpid adder Aug 14, 2020, 7:20 PM

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The Blue, I don't think the QVO is that great

normal thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Ok

torpid adder Aug 14, 2020, 7:21 PM

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WD Blue uses TLC (triple level cell) flash chips, QVO uses QLC (quad level cell), which has more data per cell

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That makes it cheaper than TLC, and gives it a shorter lifespan and slower performance

normal thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Ok

torpid adder Aug 14, 2020, 7:25 PM

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That's my quick and dirty understanding, there's more to it than just that

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You can look at the pinned SSD spreadsheet

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It's a list of most all consumer SSDs available, their shorthand specifications, and their prices/quality levels

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If you are interested, take a peek, bunch of options

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I think, of the three, the Green is the worst choice, QVO is second best, and Blue is best

small whale Aug 15, 2020, 12:20 PM

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hexed pasture Aug 15, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Best value for money NVMe drive? One that isn't super slow but it doesn't need to be lightning-fast either. I want a PCIe 4 one but they're still insanely expensive and not really worth the cost imo just yet.

kind sierra Aug 15, 2020, 7:35 PM

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@hexed pasture The teamgroup mp34 is solid

short lodge Aug 15, 2020, 8:46 PM

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And the WD SN750

loud estuary Aug 15, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Pretty much whichever of those two is cheaper.

exotic adder Aug 15, 2020, 10:13 PM

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I think the SN might be on sale right now

final flame Aug 16, 2020, 7:37 PM

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I have an nvme drive I want to return

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I havent really used it, I just partitioned it into two drive letters

heady raven Aug 16, 2020, 7:37 PM

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contact the seller then

final flame Aug 16, 2020, 7:37 PM

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BUt I want to return it to factory settings

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before I return it

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is there a best way to do this?

heady raven Aug 16, 2020, 7:38 PM

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just remove the partitions on it. that is all you realistically can/should do.

final flame Aug 16, 2020, 7:38 PM

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yeah I didn even add any data on it

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its blank

heady raven Aug 16, 2020, 7:39 PM

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if there are no partitions, then you are as close to stock as you will come.

final flame Aug 16, 2020, 7:39 PM

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how to remove the partitions?

heady raven Aug 16, 2020, 7:39 PM

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disk manager.

final flame Aug 16, 2020, 7:39 PM

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okay thanks

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I appreciate it 🙂

heady raven Aug 16, 2020, 7:40 PM

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you are very welcome, best of luck with the return.

wind hazel Aug 17, 2020, 2:44 AM

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If I take my hard drive out of my laptop (with windows and a year of usage on it) and used it in my new desktop temporarily, would there be any conflicts?

kind sierra Aug 17, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Windows might deactivate, but besides that no

clear raft Aug 17, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Very new to building a pc but I have 2 old 1t laptop hard drives I think one had a few virus’s I just wanted to make sure if I plug it into my pc and format it none of the viruses that may have been on it would affect my pc? Really sorry if this is wrong place to ask this also one was used on a Mac will this matter at all?

kind sierra Aug 17, 2020, 5:36 AM

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@clear raft Was it only used on a mac?

clear raft Aug 17, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Yes It was a replacement one I had got off amazon

kind sierra Aug 17, 2020, 5:37 AM

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So it's a virus from a mac that would be on it?

clear raft Aug 17, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Uhhhh not sure really it was 8y/o me downloading anything and everything lol

kind sierra Aug 17, 2020, 5:38 AM

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So quite old drives, okay

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um

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Let me think what the best way about this would be

clear raft Aug 17, 2020, 5:38 AM

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There WD Scorpio blue if that helps at all

kind sierra Aug 17, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Do you know how powerful of a virus they would be?

clear raft Aug 17, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Prob not bad because I remember still being able to use the pc fairly fine

kind sierra Aug 17, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Do you have any old basically dead PCs you would be getting rid of soon anyway?

clear raft Aug 17, 2020, 5:41 AM

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No not really just my new build

kind sierra Aug 17, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Okay

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What antivirus are you running?

clear raft Aug 17, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Uhhhh i couldn’t find any good reviewed anti virus so I only have a vpn currently

kind sierra Aug 17, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Windows 10?

clear raft Aug 17, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Yeah

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Not officiall

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If that matters at all

kind sierra Aug 17, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Is windows defender working?

clear raft Aug 17, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Yeah

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I think I’ll double check lol

kind sierra Aug 17, 2020, 5:43 AM

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And all of the viruses would be at least 5 years old

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I think you should be fine as long as you follow some basic safety precautions

clear raft Aug 17, 2020, 5:45 AM

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i was just gunna plug in and full format

kind sierra Aug 17, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Yup. Make sure defender is running, then plug in one of the drives at a time. Don't open them or anything like that, just format ASAP

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5+ year stale viruses that started at low threat don't pose much of an issue to start with, so don't give them any extra paths in and you should be hunky dory

clear raft Aug 17, 2020, 5:48 AM

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these are 9-10 y/o

kind sierra Aug 17, 2020, 5:48 AM

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So even better

clear raft Aug 17, 2020, 5:48 AM

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alright thank you much 😄

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@kind sierra should I have pc off or running while I plug it in?

kind sierra Aug 17, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Is it a USB drive?

clear raft Aug 17, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Sata I think it’s called

kind sierra Aug 17, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Should be off then

clear raft Aug 17, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Okay ty again lol

white kiln Aug 17, 2020, 7:17 PM

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I guess this is where I should ask. I have a WD Blue 1tb SSD that is getting randomly disconnected. I have checked the firmware of the drive, I have checked and updated my MOBO BIOS, windows install is current. Scanned for viruses. I checked the cable was seated properly. It has to be the drive right?

short lodge Aug 18, 2020, 12:30 AM

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could be drive, or maybe the cable. might have messed up the cable itself, not the connection

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are you bending it quite a bit?

white kiln Aug 18, 2020, 1:02 AM

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My father had a spare cable and so far(it's been about 2 hours) I have no had any issues after swapping cables. The old one is quite set in its shape as it is the older of the two and from an old Dell.

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So it might have been bent to the point it had a short

wind hazel Aug 18, 2020, 2:48 AM

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@clear raft download Malwarebytes (it’s free and really good) and run a scan afterwards to be safe, it’ll quarantine and delete any viruses

keen urchin Aug 18, 2020, 2:49 AM

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that it detects*

wind hazel Aug 18, 2020, 2:49 AM

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It’s updated constantly and should detect any well known viruses

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Definitely any 10 year old viruses

kind sierra Aug 18, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Windows defender should also detect any well known viruses that old

wind hazel Aug 18, 2020, 2:50 AM

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True, however isn’t as reliable as other anti-viruses

kind sierra Aug 18, 2020, 2:50 AM

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[citation needed]

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Any antivirus can be bypassed

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Malwarebytes in particular had a really bad vulnerability recently

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Not exactly a good sign when an "anti-malware" software can be hijacked and made into malware itself

wind hazel Aug 18, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Hmm, haven’t used it in a while but had it recommended.

kind sierra Aug 18, 2020, 3:04 AM

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The TL;DR is that the best antivirus is d.d.d.s., and just run a relatively lightweight one behind that to catch any stragglers

copper lance Aug 18, 2020, 10:39 AM

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Um... could anyone possibly help me with a storage issue I’m having?...

heady raven Aug 18, 2020, 11:39 AM

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@copper lance ask your question, and if someone has the time/knowledge to help, they will answer you :)

minor sun Aug 18, 2020, 12:03 PM

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@kind sierra 3.0.4 fixes the whitelisting issue, but gets another issue

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Overall Malwarebytes is decent as an antivirus, it's got problems for sure, but so do other antivirus programs. d.d.d.s. protects you from most crap anyways

copper lance Aug 18, 2020, 1:35 PM

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I’m having a hard time getting anything at all to save to my HDD, everything keeps going to my SSD which is full and I’ve tried everything I could think of and Idk what to do anymore

heady raven Aug 18, 2020, 1:47 PM

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@copper lance take a screenshot of your disk management window and send it as a pm to me

minor sun Aug 18, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Check default download settings in like chrome, and move the windows download folder to your HDD

abstract moon Aug 18, 2020, 4:48 PM

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hi guys i wanna build my first pc and was considering buying a ssd but idk much about them in terms of what to look out for when selecting one any help or recommendations would be appreciated thanks

minor sun Aug 18, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Mainly Dram, and then having TLC and not QLC.

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I can find you a good drive if you give me a price and capacity needed

abstract moon Aug 18, 2020, 5:50 PM

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I'm thinking 500gb my price range is 100usd max

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cheaper is better for me on a budget

sweet badge Aug 18, 2020, 6:17 PM

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you can get a good nvme 1tb drive for like 130, or a 500gb for like 60-75

plush crag Aug 18, 2020, 6:25 PM

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SSD sales https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/?f=flair_name%3A"SSD"

r/buildapcsales

plush crag Aug 18, 2020, 6:25 PM

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plush crag SSD sales https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/?f=flair_name%3A%22SSD%22

lilac patrol Aug 18, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Is pwm worth it?

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i can get a single one of these pw, for 10 but i can get a 5 pack of non pwm fir 20

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amazon.com/dp/B07GB6D7VQ/ref=twister_dp_update?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

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*PWM

open gazelle Aug 18, 2020, 9:25 PM

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you can control 3 pin (non PWM) fan speed via DC Voltage control

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4 pin (PWM) was only made for efficiency stuff

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and possibly for fans spinning at really low RPM

lilac patrol Aug 18, 2020, 9:26 PM

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?

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oh

open gazelle Aug 18, 2020, 9:27 PM

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meaning if you really want to you can use non PWM fine

lilac patrol Aug 18, 2020, 9:27 PM

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but is the 5 pacl something i should be jumping on?

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is pwm worth it it tho

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5 fans for $20

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non pwm

open gazelle Aug 18, 2020, 9:28 PM

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depends, PWM vs non PWM says almost nothing about fan quality

lilac patrol Aug 18, 2020, 9:28 PM

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i see

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would i want to buy a fan controller for these? amazon.com/dp/B07GB6D7VQ/ref=twister_dp_update?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

open gazelle Aug 18, 2020, 9:32 PM

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depends how many fan headers you have on your mobo

abstract moon Aug 18, 2020, 10:25 PM

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thanks guys

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what are some trusted brands?

minor sun Aug 18, 2020, 11:01 PM

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modelbrand

plush crag Aug 18, 2020, 11:03 PM

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modelvbrand

minor sun Aug 18, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Forky is that your mspaint one?

plush crag Aug 18, 2020, 11:09 PM

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ghost's

minor sun Aug 18, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Ah

plush crag Aug 18, 2020, 11:09 PM

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I didn't feel mine was emote worthy

minor sun Aug 18, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Lel

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Yes model > BR

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BR PSU bad

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Jk

abstract moon Aug 19, 2020, 12:03 AM

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ok understand

sweet badge Aug 19, 2020, 12:37 AM

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😤 i drew that in mspaint thank you very much

plush crag Aug 19, 2020, 12:44 AM

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All yellow names are the same

shut furnace Aug 19, 2020, 12:49 AM

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lmao

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im the one with fancy network mspaint xD

eternal crow Aug 19, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Stupid question: Can I just move everything from one hard drive to another manually, or do I need to find a cloning software?

kind sierra Aug 19, 2020, 1:58 AM

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You can move basically everything except for operating system files manually

eternal crow Aug 19, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Cool Thanks

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Im building a PC for my dad and Im moving like 4 different hard drives onto one big one

half flint Aug 19, 2020, 7:05 AM

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See you in 10 years once those hard drives are done copying files lol

rugged socket Aug 20, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Hyundai 960GB 3D NAND SATA III 2.5" Internal SSD (C2S3T/960G) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NGYKQOV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_k2BpFb5SCD4R4

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hyundai gang

small whale Aug 21, 2020, 1:08 AM

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transfering my Steam Games to the second nvme m.2 drive.. im not impressed with the transfer speed

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Anyone ?

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NM.. must have been compressed files... it jumped to 1.5 gbs a sec halfway threw

crude orchid Aug 21, 2020, 1:56 AM

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anyone know an ssd with a similar performance to the 970 but cheaper?

torpid adder Aug 21, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Keep in mind, raw transfer speeds between two drives is only as good as the slowest drive

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I'm sure they're both pretty speedy though...

lone spear Aug 21, 2020, 4:43 AM

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well yes but a “faster” drive can still bottleneck it bc drives have different speeds for reading and writing

torpid adder Aug 21, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Yuh Tru Tru

small whale Aug 21, 2020, 7:57 AM

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These where similar 3x4 nvme m.2s. From what I was seeing I suspect the first half was compressed data. But idk. Let’s just say the 1.5gbs made my eyes bug out

torpid adder Aug 21, 2020, 9:45 AM

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Hehe

wild violet Aug 21, 2020, 3:38 PM

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hi all, i'm trying to find a storage device to use at my home office. Looking for at least 8tb that i can work off of(video editing) and possible watch some movies from there as well. Any recommendations? Budget $500 max. I also have the option of buying a nas device with 12tb. wasnt sure if it made sense to just buy a docking station and use that. I use a macbook 2018 so usb-c is preffered. Last questions: does a adapter or e-sata to usb -c cable means faster transfer speeds?

small whale Aug 21, 2020, 4:30 PM

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No. Speed will be limited to the Sata speed. But unless your ok with mechanical hard drives (HDD). You are going to go way over budget. Look for HDDs with 7200 rpm preferred. I think two separate ones at 4tb ea would be fine. I’m not a expert in optimizing tho. I think if you threw a good SSD in the mix with a big cache and set them up for Raid you could really increase speeds.

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@wild violet

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Actually I hope someone more qualified answers your question. If you do this right it should be decently fast

heady raven Aug 21, 2020, 4:59 PM

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@wild violet a good scratch disk is imo what you need (scratch disk is the one that your video editing program works from)

wild violet Aug 21, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Thanks Cru4y and Naed. Can you dm a recommendation or two via DM? I was advise by a friend that g tech was a reliable source but still mechanical. Thanks in advance!

small whale Aug 21, 2020, 5:29 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/seagate-ironwolf-st8000vn0022-8tb/p/N82E16822179003?item=N82E16822179003&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-hard+drives-_-N82E16822179003&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4f35BRDBARIsAPePBHwVCctPSFrT3udBgGa4F9jI4RPhKgU8ygCFTaEM3zoKjfBCt5-_Z0caAgGiEALw_wcB

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@wild violet

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Actually found a good one that is 8tb in one for 209

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This is about as good as it gets

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This is a NAS.. idk if you wanted a external one or internal now.. This is a internal

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https://www.newegg.com/seagate-ironwolf-st8000vn004-8tb/p/N82E16822184796?Item=N82E16822184796

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@wild violet newer version for 20$ more

kind belfry Aug 22, 2020, 1:27 AM

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can anyone help me i bought a hdd from newegg and it wont initialize i moved its sata ports 4 times and it still wont read it only my ssd works
it says unknown on the disk management but on bios it recognizes it

carmine spear Aug 22, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Format it

rugged socket Aug 22, 2020, 2:51 AM

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yeah

winter hedge Aug 22, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Does anybody know if there are M.2 standoffs that are different between motherboard manufacturers? I’m upgrading to an M.2 and lost the standoff like most people. I bought a package from micro center that has standoffs but it is for gigabyte and MSI motherboards while I have an Asus and they aren’t fitting. I’ve double checked and they are not motherboard standoffs

supple yew Aug 22, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Asus and Gigabyte/MSI have different standards... Asus ones are smaller, and i think Intel, Asus and Asrock have the same.

upper osprey Aug 22, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Sooo my hdd got cucked by Windows, unable to format it or set permissions to control it

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Any suggestions?

upper osprey Aug 22, 2020, 3:18 PM

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I ended up doing a DBAN on it

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 9:41 AM

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dumb question, mostly because im too lazy at 5am to google the answer, what is the fastest 8tb+ drive. I know there some thing a while back about Shingled Magnetic being secretly used or mis-interpreted, mostly having to do with raid/nas solutions (which I am setting up a raid/nas) Which drives are the good ones?

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 9:54 AM

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I say look for a WD Black (Western Digital Black) 8tb @acoustic hound

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 9:55 AM

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one, do they make black in 8tb? and two, i thought black was still not great for NAS for some other reason I can't remember right now...

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ill go look

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 9:55 AM

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I use WD black on 4tb does pretty well

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If you don't want to use WD, use seagate

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 9:56 AM

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yeah there is no 8tb black...

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there is a 6tb...

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sometimes im tempted to get a 16x nvme pcie card and run a raid 5 on 4x 2tb nvme drives lol

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 9:58 AM

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lol

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 9:58 AM

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it's not that I need that fast access to data...

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I just want redundancy, and it would simplify the build

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Right, I understand

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 9:59 AM

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I suppose I could use 2tb sata m.2...

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 9:59 AM

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That's a good idea

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I'm only running a 250Gb M.2 rn

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:00 AM

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to cut cost... i would still need a 16x m.2 card probably... i wonder if they have sata controllers.

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im running windows off of a sata 3.5" drive (i think 500mb i can't remember)

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Ah

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:00 AM

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and I have a 128gb 3.5... and a 2tb nvme pro for games

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and a 4tb WD blue for storage of music, videos, photo, roms...

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but its very slow...

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i think its one of the SMT drives

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Rip

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:01 AM

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and there's no redundancy on my system :/

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 10:01 AM

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That sucks..

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:02 AM

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so im going to be rebuilding as soon as the 3000 series comes out

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with a budget of like... 5k

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 10:02 AM

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Damn!

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:03 AM

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I tend to do expensive builds, but only a build every other GPU generation

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so this PC is... quite old now >.>

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 10:04 AM

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I just built mine w/ a 3k budget.

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:05 AM

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it's a 32gb ram x99 build, originally it had 970sli but the 970 didnt really have enough memory for 4k, so it was upgraded, especially since they ended up dropping SLI

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I won't necessarily spend 5k. I just have that as my absolute upper limit

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like... 3090, probably NOT going to go with an enthusiast platform... Might even go AMD for extra lanes, get the 16x card for storage...

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 10:06 AM

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I tent to be an Intel Nerd

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:07 AM

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me too but intel is really strangling things i like to do with it's lane limits

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 10:07 AM

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Yeah

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:07 AM

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i like doing SLI when possible, I like having a bunch of add in cards

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 10:07 AM

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understandable

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:07 AM

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I have to constantly talk my self out of TR >.> but I really won't get the mileage out of TR for what it costs...

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 10:08 AM

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Right

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:09 AM

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also I prefer 4k to high refresh rate... so I wont need the absolute best single core performance...

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 10:10 AM

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yeah, I've been stuck with 1080p, although I'm fine with the graphics, I don't need anything too high quality

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:10 AM

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I have a bunch of awesome tube monitors if i want low motion blur

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i managed to score a Sony W900

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1900x1200 72hz 16:10 tube

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24"

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very rare...

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Nice!

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:11 AM

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theres a better FW900 but they have a lot of problems with the flyback transformer... so the W900 is more a daily driver option where FW900 is more for people who wanna gamble 3000 bucks+++ to flex

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but it will do 2k at 85hz... if you find one in working order.

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We didn't know what we were losing when we gave up tubes... they have some shocking advantages.

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 10:13 AM

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Right

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:13 AM

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like... 2048x1536@85hz with no motion blur and they are self emissive so they keep up with oled (not counting HDR)

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when it comes to dynamic range*

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we just didn't have the hardware to push them to their limits back in 2006

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Understandable

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:15 AM

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and that upper 85hz limit... could be surpassed easily it was just "but why?" back in the day

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on that monitor, if you drop the resolution to 1600x1200 you can do 190hz

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Lacie Electron Blue

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 10:16 AM

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Lol how does that work?

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:16 AM

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i'm like way off topic >.>

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go to displays 😄

mint lagoon Aug 23, 2020, 10:16 AM

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I can't even set 1600x1200 on my monitor lol

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WHAT?? ITS 6AM ALREADY

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there goes my sleep schedule

acoustic hound Aug 23, 2020, 10:19 AM

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i have examples of how it works in displays channel >.>

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:17 PM

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hey guys so i have a 1 tb ssd almost full so i got another one of the exact same kind, but how do i combine them without losing all my contents??

boreal wing Aug 24, 2020, 11:27 PM

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@bright grove u could upload the first one to cloud and then redownload it on the new one

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:30 PM

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how would i redownload?

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i dont undertand

boreal wing Aug 24, 2020, 11:31 PM

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off the cloud

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like google drive

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or something

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:31 PM

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@bright grove when you say "combine", what exactly do you mean?

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:31 PM

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raid 0

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i wanna somehow raid 0 my drives but keep my contents

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all of them

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i want the exact same pc i had before

boreal wing Aug 24, 2020, 11:32 PM

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that wont really work i dont think

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:32 PM

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They want a combined volume or whatever it's called

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:32 PM

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why would you raid them?

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:32 PM

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(afaik raid 0 runs everything in 1 partition/volume)

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:33 PM

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what do you think you are going to actually gain (that you can notice)?

boreal wing Aug 24, 2020, 11:33 PM

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why dont u just put the second ssd in the second m.2 place

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:34 PM

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It's nice to have, but is it going to be that troublesome Naed?

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:34 PM

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well i like just having one drive for everything

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if i just let it be ill have 2 drives for things

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:35 PM

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you could just make a storage pool @bright grove

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you dont need raid for that

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:35 PM

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(please explain storage pool
and how to activate it via software/bios)

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:35 PM

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whats a storage pool

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lmao

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:36 PM

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at its core, its "just" having the drives appear as one.

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But, i remembered wrong on the drive number needed for it

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(it needs 3)

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Can you still explain how you could activate it?

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:37 PM

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https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12438/windows-10-storage-spaces

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thats the quickest way @minor sun

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(to explain it that is)

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:37 PM

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oh well i like the sound of this

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tbh idc about the tiny extra speed of raid

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i just want one 2tb drive

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:38 PM

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from a consumer POV, i would strongly recommend that you just learn to live with 2 drives

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:38 PM

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You can use Storage Spaces to group two or more drives together in a storage pool
?

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:38 PM

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OR go out and buy a 2tb drive.

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ah, might be server version that is 3 drives then (that is what i normally deal with)

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:39 PM

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You can probably try that than Chiller

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just stop if it tells you to format or something

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:39 PM

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However, do backup things BEFORE you try

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because we are NOT responsible for any data loss from advice given here.

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:40 PM

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alright ill try

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ill back up my minecraft worlds tho

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Of course, whatever can go wrong goes wrong xD

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:40 PM

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thats all i care about tbh

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:40 PM

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backup anything you need

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like idk legal documents and such

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:40 PM

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ill back up my tax fraud

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🧠

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only one drivbe is popping up

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so what is the poiint of this

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im confused

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:44 PM

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refer to what i said about consumers

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:46 PM

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but why cant i just make it work

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Naed, do you know if partition managers could merge partitions without deleting things?

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:48 PM

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@minor sun its one of those: It can be done, but dont. Kind of things

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Can you explain why?

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:49 PM

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because of how the data might be spread across the drive.

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and the partition tool wont "care"

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"this section goes there"

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:49 PM

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ah, so issues with cross-drive communication?

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:49 PM

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kinda yes

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:50 PM

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how do i move my whole pc from one drive to another?

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:50 PM

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its one of those things that i try not to think too much about tbh

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clone the drive.

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:50 PM

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nad have it stil be exactly the same

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:50 PM

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And next, is it a decent idea to have 2 clean drives to run raid 0 and run in a single volume?

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:51 PM

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for security/reliability, mirror is better than nothing @minor sun

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:51 PM

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uhh are you talking about raid 1 mirroring?

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:51 PM

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aye.

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striping is just silly

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:52 PM

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okay so i have a storage pool on one drive

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how do i combine them now

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because when i choose add drives my main drive doesnt come up=

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:52 PM

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@bright grove read the info on the site i linked :)

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this is the part where you do a LOT of reading

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and then you make a choice about IF/HOW you want to use it in your setup

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:53 PM

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oh shooot

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bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:54 PM

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oh

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well this wont work then

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:54 PM

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY WINDOWS

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bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:55 PM

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bruh

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well that sucks

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:55 PM

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am sorry

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:55 PM

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what if i buy another one

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then make a pool with the two new ones

minor sun Aug 24, 2020, 11:56 PM

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at this point, could just do as Naed says

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live with multiple drives

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:56 PM

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then return my extra one'

heady raven Aug 24, 2020, 11:57 PM

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the simple solution to your "problem" (which imo is not really a problem) is to buy a single drive with more storage.

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then you can setup your system like you want.

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because, as i said. from a consumer pov. learn to live with more than 1 drive letter.

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it is just simpler to do.

bright grove Aug 24, 2020, 11:58 PM

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alright well thanks for thw help

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so i was to get a 2tb drive now

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actually nvm

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lol

red jay Aug 25, 2020, 11:57 AM

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What's the best RAID setup (if any)in your guy's opinions? For arrays less and greater than 6.

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Me, for >6, I think RAID 5 sounds nice, and either RAID 10 or 1 for <6.

misty rover Aug 25, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Is it possible to mount my mom's old 640GB HDD to my new PC once I get it built, in order to recover YEARS worth of valuable files, photos, videos, and all that without reformatting it, and wiping all of the data off of it?

heady raven Aug 25, 2020, 7:24 PM

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@misty rover in theory yes

south wadi Aug 26, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Looking to upgrade the 256gig Hard drive on an msi gf63 thin 10th gen laptop, and i cannot find any hard drives for it, i want at least 1tb

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possible?

heady raven Aug 26, 2020, 2:48 PM

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@south wadi what are you searching for specifically?

minor sun Aug 26, 2020, 2:49 PM

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(I found the manual, just says "2.5in HDD", no height requirement mentioned, I assume any 2.5in drive fits)

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@south wadi by the way, there is no specific HDD that only fits in that laptop, these parts usually are interchangeable with consumer components unless otherwise listed.

heady raven Aug 26, 2020, 2:52 PM

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and afternoon to you @minor sun

minor sun Aug 26, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Good afternoon Naed.

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I'm gonna wait before linking a drive because people like to just not read and buy what people link :P

heady raven Aug 26, 2020, 3:03 PM

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indeed

minor sun Aug 26, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Well, I guess they disappeared for the day, might see them tomorrow morning (for me).

heady raven Aug 26, 2020, 8:31 PM

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@somber remnant there is absolutely NO need for language like that here.

upper quiver Aug 26, 2020, 8:35 PM

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i think the clown aspect of that is the fact that he spammed it in a bunch of other chats

heady raven Aug 26, 2020, 8:38 PM

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does not matter @upper quiver

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it is not language that is ever needed for things like this

upper quiver Aug 26, 2020, 8:42 PM

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idk i thought it was funny

native zenith Aug 26, 2020, 11:34 PM

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I got a new psu and plugged both my ssd and my hdd in with the sata cables for the first psu not the second one. The computer wouldn’t boot up so I used the new cables and now both drives act like they’re not existent. Are they done? Is there any way to fix it? Thx

torpid adder Aug 26, 2020, 11:36 PM

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You should use only one power supply

native zenith Aug 26, 2020, 11:37 PM

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I only have one currently being used by the pc. The other one is boxed away

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Probably gonna have to buy new l drives

minor sun Aug 27, 2020, 2:55 PM

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P1 for the speeds. @red jay