storage-devices

[turbid crater]

had a 317 usd gift card at amazon got gpu at 326 including tax

[indigo condor]

Thats not bad

[turbid crater]

especially it cost 591 before tax and card cost 650 msrp

[red jay]

Im installing forza horizon 4 from the xbox app on to my external hdd but my main os drive (ssd) is at 100%

Is it caching the stuff on my main drive and then moving it to my hard drive?

[red jay]

😐

[turbid crater]

did u try the xbox discord server?

[indigo condor]

I believe in the xbox app you have to change the default drive to your external because it automatically goes to your ssd even when you change it.. it’s happened to me.. but when you change it in settings it creates a new xbox games file you can use from there on

[mild bone]

I used to play Xbox it's fun

But I stopped

[green wharf]

That’s been my hdd for some reason too, it’s saying it’s at 100% usage but it says it’s not writing or reading anything

[dense merlin]

If you just turned your pc on that's normal

Normally lasts a few min

[open stump]

looking to run my old oem sys on external hd and instll my gaims on a external on my new nitro sys and ruun gaims and audio streaming

forgive spelling

[tribal jackal]

where can I plug in a ssd on the ASUS Prime B560M

https://www.newegg.ca/western-digital-1tb-blue-sn570-nvme/p/N82E16820250211?Item=N82E16820250211

[open stump]

older sys has only ide and ssd slot and 4 usb2

[tribal jackal]

?

[open stump]

my new on already has m.2 in it looking to expand

working with 2 compleatly diffrent systoms

[tribal jackal]

do you know where I might be able to add a second storage to that motherboard

[open stump]

old one is a oem win 10 new one is a nitro let me take pic of my old sys spec

[tribal jackal]

?

[kind sierra]

You have two m.2 connectors, one above the GPU slot that's underneath a metal cover and one that's below the GPU slot

[open stump]

Sys bus pci express as rock model n68c_s ucc

[kind sierra]

Booting windows 10 on an external hard drive is not a very easy thing to do, Microsoft has it set up to not really allow it

[open stump]

And cipset

[tribal jackal]

go to dms so I can send a picture of thje motherboard

[kind sierra]

You have two slots

[open stump]

No my old bord and Athlon 2x3 450 prosser

[kind sierra]

Here and here

[tribal jackal]

So one is under a cover and the other the gpu is covering it

[kind sierra]

Yup

The one under the cover is your primary slot, the second one is for extra storage

[tribal jackal]

ok So I have to take the gpu out

[kind sierra]

Yes

[tribal jackal]

is that hard to do

[kind sierra]

No, just remember to release the little clip on the back. There will be videos online showing how to release it

[open stump]

I'm hear only upgrade path on older sys is ither ide or ssd or usb

[tribal jackal]

Dont I just unplug then unscrew at the back and take it out?

[kind sierra]

If it has IDE I probably wouldn't worry about upgrading it

[kind sierra]

No, there's also a clip holding it in. If you try to pull it out without releasing the clip you will break things

[tribal jackal]

ok

where is the clip

[kind sierra]

Here

[tribal jackal]

ok

might be hard to reach I have a 360ti

3060

[open stump]

My new sys is m.2 wanting more storage for games and audio books

[kind sierra]

Just get a popsicle stick to push on it if you can't reach

[open stump]

Ok

[kind sierra]

Does it have an IDE connector?

[open stump]

not the nitro

[kind sierra]

Is the old drive an IDE drive?

[open stump]

yes

[tribal jackal]

ok thank you

I will let you know how it goes

[open stump]

has a ssd and ide

[kind sierra]

You'll probably spend as much on a USB to IDE converter as you would on a new drive with many times the capacity and speeds, don't bother using the IDE drive

How much storage space is on the SSD?

[open stump]

1tb

[kind sierra]

Is it a 2.5" or m.2 SSD?

[open stump]

not shure thats why im asking to do external usb

on new sys as wel as old one

[kind sierra]

You'll need to know in order to get the right adapter

[open stump]

ok np thanks

might be good idea to scrap old sys and bld a new one

[kind sierra]

Does it look kinda like any of these?

[open stump]

yes

[kind sierra]

Which one?

[open stump]

big one left

[kind sierra]

That's a hard drive, not an SSD. Are you sure it's an SSD?

[open stump]

hang on ger

Ide 465gb main boot drive sata512 gb

[kind sierra]

Okay, I wouldn't bother salvaging either of them honestly

The adapter would cost more than a new drive either way

[open stump]

Ok so can I put a ssd in

[kind sierra]

Into the nitro system?

[open stump]

no the older one the new one is the nitro let me pull up its spec

[kind sierra]

I wouldn't bother putting an SSD in the older one personally. If it's old enough to use ide as its main boot drive it probably won't be running much that'll take advantage of an SSD

[open stump]

Ok

Acer NITRO N50-600 is new one

[kind sierra]

That you could put an SSD in

[open stump]

less than 6 monts old just want more game storage on it

why i was asking abot external

[kind sierra]

You should be able to add one internally too

[open stump]

ok new one is acer nitro i5-11400f gaiming

[iron raft]

The instructions to installing my m.2 were to simply slide it into its slot and screw it in, but it didn't come with a screw and I'm not at all sure what kind of screw goes here

[soft mirage]

Im trying to screw this down, but the screw doesn’t hold it down.

[small carbon]

Got a standoff or such? Otherwise, idk

[soft mirage]

There’s a standoff in the final screw, but I don’t know if it comes out

I tried twisting it out but nothing happened.

[small carbon]

Just confirming this isn't happening:

[open stump]

thx for help

[soft mirage]

Yeesh why is it bending like that

Did they put it in wrong in the slot

[small carbon]

Note the pic before that.

[soft mirage]

Oh yeah

[vagrant cloak]

Can someone help with my ssd

I just installed it but windows isn’t showing it and I can see it in computer management but not in disk drives

I’m running a hard drive with it

[vagrant cloak]

I don’t have any unallocated room

@small carbon

[small carbon]

Can you show a pic of where you "see " the drive.

[vagrant cloak]

Yep

The hitachi is my had

Hdd

I’m trying to get the ssd to work

It doesn’t show up in disk management or folder

Or windows

@small carbon

[small carbon]

NgL I'm kind of stumped.

[loud wren]

No, I created one 8 TB array in BIOS following the instructions from ASUS. That part seems to work, since the RAID shows up there correctly. The problem is that I still see two 4 TB drives in Windows, instead of a single 8 TB raid.

I submitted a support ticket with ASUS and provided them with screenshots of the BIOS and of Windows Disk Manager and the screens of the details for each device driver to confirm that I am using the correct device drivers. They haven't found an answer yet.

[vagrant cloak]

Yeah it’s weird the software is up to date and it shows up in the bios still

Just trying to figure out how to make it work

If anyone knows how to fix it lmk

[crimson meadow]

Would gen5 drives be backwards compatible? I’m curious.

[sour wadi]

Yes all thing pcie is backwards compatible

[crimson meadow]

Cool thank you

Was wondering because I kinda don’t wanna upgrade to ddr5 right away.

[sour wadi]

Ddr5 and pcie 5 are completely unrelated

[vagrant cloak]

Hey Pato

Do u think u can help me

[turbid crater]

is there anything that uses pcie 5 yet

[crimson meadow]

Oh I know. I just want to upgrade to it eventually

The reason I asked was because the fast drives

I assumed it would not be worth it while I am still on the ddr4 platform

[vagrant cloak]

What does this mean

Is there a way to fix it

[kind sierra]

No consumer drives that I've seen yet, but they should be coming soon. I'd expect to hear more info at CES

[turbid crater]

yeah thats what i thought. just built ddr4 pc build. no point getting pcie 5 probably wait like 5-7 years for next build.

[kind sierra]

Basically windows couldn't verify that it had the right drivers, you'll want to go and update them manually

[vagrant cloak]

I tried

[crimson meadow]

Oh wow, we’re they all just leaks ?

[turbid crater]

but if its anything like pci 3.0/4.0 drives u wouldnt tell the difference in gaming with pcie gen 5 @kind sierra

[vagrant cloak]

Well I did technically

[kind sierra]

We have official announcements, you just can't buy them yet

[vagrant cloak]

But it still doesn’t work @kind sierra

Is it a compatibility issue

[sour wadi]

There's not even gen 5 drives for consumers yet anyway

[crimson meadow]

Didn’t realize until now lol

That’s why I’ve been thinking if it eventually it’s smarter just to upgrade my gen4 drives capacity instead

[kind sierra]

Possibly. Did you download the driver from the manufacturer?

[vagrant cloak]

Yes

[kind sierra]

Did it include your SSD model as compatible?

[vagrant cloak]

Wym

[kind sierra]

It'll give a list of devices that the driver is compatible with

[vagrant cloak]

It had only one driver to download for all

Lemme send u what type of ssd it is

[kind sierra]

You can just link the product page here

[vagrant cloak]

Linkmore PCIe NVMe M.2 XE400 500GB

[kind sierra]

Interesting

[vagrant cloak]

It was 70$

[kind sierra]

Has it worked before?

[vagrant cloak]

So it’s a cheaper end one

I just bought it I’m using it with my 2 tb hdd

Or I’m trying to use it

[kind sierra]

Okay

[vagrant cloak]

It says it’s compatible with win 10

[kind sierra]

$70 for 500GB?

[vagrant cloak]

Yeah

[kind sierra]

How long ago did you buy this and where did you buy it from

[vagrant cloak]

Amazon like 2 days ago

I was tired of my hdd being so slow so I bought one

To help it

[kind sierra]

Okay

Return that thing

[vagrant cloak]

Lmao

I will then

What should I get then

[kind sierra]

Brand I've never heard of and can't really find much on, costs way too much for the size, and it's having driver issues

Are you from the UK?

[vagrant cloak]

No

Is

Us

“

[kind sierra]

Aight, I saw a few UK listings of that model. Lemme see what a good option for the US SSD market is. $70 a good price to go for?

[vagrant cloak]

If u can send me some cheaper options that you know will workout like a 500agB

500GB

Anything cheaper would be great

I mean I just figured I wanted a good one

Just something that works

Wouldn’t mind if it was bad just helped my hdd

[kind sierra]

Do you do any heavy duty video editing or deep learning?

[vagrant cloak]

No

Just gaming

[kind sierra]

https://www.newegg.com/team-group-mp34-1tb/p/N82E16820331309
I'd probably go for this one then

Nice little sale rn

If you want to spend a bit more for a slightly faster drive, there's this one. You won't see much of a performance difference though
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09QV692XY

[vagrant cloak]

I have an hdd so anything’s prolly better

@kind sierra thank u will prolly go with the 500 gb one

On Amazon

[kind sierra]

Those are both 1TB that I linked

[vagrant cloak]

There’s a 500gb option on the Amazon one

[kind sierra]

Don't bother with that, 500GB on a gen 4 drive is kinda wonky

[vagrant cloak]

I only am using 400 sum gbs out of 2 tbs on my hard drive

Ok

[kind sierra]

If you want to save money, I'd go for the mp34

[vagrant cloak]

Ok thank you

[worn trail]

Kingston KC3000 2TB for $215 is that good?

[dense merlin]

Not if that's usd

[small carbon]

Also not great vs when sn850x/P41 is $170.

[worn trail]

I am looking on Amazon.com.mx just a heads up.

[worn trail]

For me SN850x is $260 and P41 is $400. 🥲

Oh, the KC3000 cost dipped to $205

[small carbon]

Oh right. If that's the sort of prices you see then KC3000 is a solid decision. Yep I checked, Phison E18 & such. Basically, it's legit top tier. Came out around 1 yr ago. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/kingston-kc3000-m2-ssd-review

[fringe mesa]

Was only a matter of time before a bunch of wrongly made NVME steam docks came out. Steam stated they didn't go with the 2280 due to heat build up, but one could be used externally, only if it had an external power supply. One place made one without its own power source, and 10 days later, 8 other manufactures poped up with same non external power supply configuration. Can only imagine how many decks are going to fry.

[kind sierra]

What?

[minor sun]

If you're trying to say not having external power supply for NVMe drives is going to fry it, no, NVMe drives pull like 5w, just USB will provide it with more than enough

[kind sierra]

Even the top of the line ones don't crack 10W

An external dock will be able to dissipate that passively with pretty much no issues

Oh, and that's when they're running at full speed too. They won't be in this situation, so the power draw will be even lower

[real lava]

what he's trying to say is probably because of the ssd length blocking cooling

but external docks with cooling should solve that issue

[indigo arch]

Have any of you ever bought SSDs from eBay before and they worked out ok?
Looking at a few on there now and they appear to be good prices but always feel kinda unsure on that sort of thing and never been able to take the risk

[sour wadi]

Ssds are one thing I'd almost never buy used personally because of endurance

[small carbon]

Same. At the very least, drives have a very finite lifespan.

[indigo arch]

Would you also say the same for HDDs too?

[real lava]

I can trust it if the seller sends a picture of the drive's data

Like its health, how many terabytes it has been written

I mean even old ssds would still have quite some life left in them

It takes a ton of writing to wear em out lol

I wouldn't go that old of course, but it's just an example

[small carbon]

Hdds are funny though, they really can "last" a long time. I've just gone new by chance. Various WD blues (7200rpm), 750GB then two 1TBs. Last was 2016 I think. Recently got a well priced 6TB wd black to backup "everything" onto a single place & it's still unused.

[real lava]

lolol

[indigo arch]

I just want to try and get some cheap SSDs that i can use with Raspberry Pis and such for random projects effectively.
So like It's not an issue if i lose data on them for what they will be for but would also like it if they actually last me some time of course

[blazing musk]

I just use USB drives on a rpi

USB 3.1+ is fast enough

[indigo condor]

What is Mail Innovations is not a day definite service

Does that mean it can come earlier than jan 4th or just after

I heard everyone talking crap on them

[blazing musk]

UPS mail innovations? The package gets transported by UPS to your local post office and the post office handles the final delivery

[indigo condor]

Gotcha.. i live in pa and the package is in nj is it possible itll come early or is that all up to my local ups and not ups mail innovations

[blazing musk]

It's possible it will come early, that depends on how backed up UPS is from all the holiday shipping.

Mail Innovations is a low priority service

[indigo condor]

Ah okay.. didn’t know how innovations work.. that figures much.. i guess thats why people on newegg reddit complain about their waits with them

Thank you for your help!

[blazing musk]

No problem

[small carbon]

Mail might be interesting for another few weeks until "holiday" return periods end and such. I'm surprised I didn't get to help UPS this week actually. Was a driver helper for 4weeks to get some extra pay this time of year.

[smoky nebula]

oh

language warning go brr

i mightve screwed myself (moreso my data) when disassembling my old pc the family sent for christmas.

so i have a fairly built rig currently (5900x, 6700xt, boot SSD etc) but it started at humble beginnings with my rig i just got back (dual xeon 2 core cpus, gtx 770, two stripped HDDs)

i took the harddrives out forgetting they were stripped and i cant get them to be read as one drive or remember which is which, is there a way to get any data off of the drives or are they lost in the abyss?

[blazing musk]

Were the drives striped in hardware raid or software?

Rest assured there's plenty of ways to get the data

@smoky nebula It's easy to fix but I need some info from you first

Well when you get around to answering, if you have them built as a hardware array you'll need either a X series motherboard like X570 or a RAID controller card, which costs $27 including the mini SAS to 4x SATA cable. If it's software you don't need any special hardware and you should be able to just install the software you used to build it, or if it's from disk management storage spaces you can repair it from in there.

[indigo condor]

I have a 250gb nvme as my C drive, i just bought a 2TB 4.0 nvme Drive should i copy everything from c drive to my new nvme or just use the new nvme for my games and such

[small carbon]

The 2nd part, imo. 👍 (way later on can deal w/ changing os drive if desired)

[blazing musk]

Windows is perfectly happy having 250gb of space for it and programs, and a faster drive won't help it at all

[small carbon]

Yea, was gonna mention my setup for past couple years is just 250GB mx500 + 1TB mx500. Sure is much more convenient adding 1 ssd if we can than reinstalling/copying windows. --

[heady salmon]

whats a good 1tb ssd for a lower price

[small carbon]

Mp34/mp33, among a few others.

[heady salmon]

thanks

[dawn sand]

what really OMG

[blazing musk]

... I've told you faster drives don't help Windows before

[dawn sand]

yea but i must have not been paying attention

[blazing musk]

The difference in boot times between sata ssd and 3.0 nvme is only a few seconds, and there's virtually no difference going to 4.0

[dense merlin]

^^

My 660p compared to my low to mid range sata ssd boot time is maybe 2 second difference

[dawn sand]

what about 5.0

[blazing musk]

Doesn't exist yet

[sour wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/technically-youre-wrong-vinny-assisted-living-s3e10-youre-not-right-gif-25639237

[blazing musk]

But probably still the same rule

[blazing musk]

You shush it's not consumer grade

[dawn sand]

but its on mobos

[sour wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-26050971

[blazing musk]

For "future proofing"

Even the new GPUs are only 4.0

[formal tusk]

I enjoy the fact my sata ssd's can boot to windows faster than my bloated 4.0 windows install

Fun fact of the day: keep ur windows lite kids

[blazing musk]

Yup nothing like a stripped down bench OS to show you how bad a standard install is at starting

[sour wadi]

So i what you're saying is i should use the N edition for Windows?

[formal tusk]

[blazing musk]

If you can find a key for it, 10 N isn't sold any more

But really just uninstall the bloat apps or use a stripped installer like a real techie

[sour wadi]

Well i clearly stripped my install too much, the issue i was having the other day was because i disabled to many features

Also win 11 still includes a 11n home sooo

[formal tusk]

What, ur stability?

[sour wadi]

Nah the security update that just refuses to install

[formal tusk]

Oh that

Sadge

[blazing musk]

There's an 11 Home N? I thought there was only Pro N

[sour wadi]

Yeah so I've settled for just removing a few apps n stuff because i cannot tell which feature it is

[sour wadi]

Pretty sure that's what was on the iso, ran a few vboxs today for testing that issue instead of reinstalling a lot so I'll let you know in a few days when i get the time to reinstall and check the list

[blazing musk]

Eh I'll just load NTlite

[sour wadi]

Is that a vbox thing?

[blazing musk]

No it's the app I use to edit the ISOs

Home N sure enough

[sour wadi]

Oh maybe that might be a better way to go about my adventures

Omg why is it 40$ a year

[blazing musk]

Only for the enterprise edition there's a free home one

You just can't use all the features, but that's fine

[sour wadi]

Ahh okay because there's a paid one that's 40 and it's called home lol

[sour wadi]

Ah cool ty

[sour wadi]

No i was using different tool like a fool

[formal tusk]

He was using PatoLite

[quiet gust]

Anyone knows why a SSD doesn't show up anywhere in windows except hwinfo or crdisk info?

Can't even see it in disk manager

[blazing musk]

Does it show in the diskpart command line tool when you list disk?

[quiet gust]

Nothing

[blazing musk]

Weird. Try another slot if you have any extras. Is it a M.2?

[smoky nebula]

I dont remember as it was my older brother or dad who set it up and i got the computer handmedowned like 5 years ago maybe more, as far as i can tell it wasnt hardware unless it was on the actual MB, that being said i do have an X570E PG board so it should be able to its just im not sure how to.

sorry for the late response got caught up with life yk how it is

[blazing musk]

No worries, it happens
See if it detects as an array automatically when following this https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1045089/

If not don't force it into an array since it might be software after all

You'd stop at step 8 on the AMD instructions

[smoky nebula]

ill check it out thanks

X570S PG Riptide my bad

[blazing musk]

Here's the ones that are for asrock then https://download.asrock.com/Manual/RAID/B550 Taichi/English.pdf

Same basic steps

[formal tusk]

Put them back in the old rig and reenable raid

It'll work

I've done that before

You need to transfer them off there tho

[smoky nebula]

odds the old pc works is very minimal but i can pull it out and check

[formal tusk]

Give it a go

Odds are really high it still works

I've done that a couple times on raid 0 of all things

(I don't raid nowadays)

[blazing musk]

If it's old enough it might be picky on drive order

[formal tusk]

Yes

Possible

[blazing musk]

I just software raid these days, even though I have X570

So much simpler

[formal tusk]

But it straight up won't read if it doesn't like it

[smoky nebula]

it is a fairly old setup so heres hoping

[blazing musk]

Besides in my experience the AMD raid drivers are... iffy

I got less performance on my X470 doing hardware raid than a simple windows storage space

[smoky nebula]

ancient relic

[formal tusk]

Jesus

All the dimms

[blazing musk]

Must be a workstation, maybe X79

[smoky nebula]

XW8600

[blazing musk]

Yep xeon workstation

But older than X79

[formal tusk]

Jesus

32gb of ddr2

That would've been worth a fortune

[blazing musk]

It's still $500 on ebay

[smoky nebula]

until this last year thats all i gamed on

[formal tusk]

Damnnnn

I am humbled

What an old gem

[smoky nebula]

thing was a trooper for minecraft and roblox on medium graphics

[formal tusk]

It doesn't even look that dirty

[smoky nebula]

i took good care of it

its sat under a bed for a little bit though

[blazing musk]

Socket 771 I think

'06

[smoky nebula]

you think im good to slot my 6700xt in it to test the drives?

800w psu

[blazing musk]

Yeah if it has all the PCIe power cables you need

[smoky nebula]

8+6

[blazing musk]

If not you can trick your new PSU into powering the gpu using the jumper trick

[formal tusk]

Wait

How old is the psu

Or is this the new build

[smoky nebula]

its the old one

[formal tusk]

Tbh that'd be what, well over a decade old now?

[blazing musk]

16-17 years

[formal tusk]

I'd get a new one

[smoky nebula]

last i checked old as or older than me depending on the pieces

[blazing musk]

This is just to test the raid array

[formal tusk]

O

[blazing musk]

On the old pc

[formal tusk]

I thought this was in new pc nvm

I'm having like 4 convos while testing my new ram my b

[blazing musk]

ATX 2.0 introduced the PCI-e cables and was introduced in 2003 so it should be compatible if it has enough cables

[smoky nebula]

i have molex to pcie cables

[blazing musk]

Normally I'd avoid those but that should be ok for testing only

[smoky nebula]

i sold the RX 580 that was in it previously

[blazing musk]

Sheesh that'll be a PCI-e 1.1 slot too since 2.0 was 2007

Should still be compatible in theory with the newer 4.0 on the 6700 XT

[smoky nebula]

this feels like a monstrosity

[blazing musk]

https://tenor.com/view/frankenstein-its-alive-happy-excited-gif-5625959

[smoky nebula]

i think sata 0 and 1 make most sense for the cables but does it matter

[blazing musk]

We won't know until you try it

It's old enough that the motherboard will build a hardware array based on the exact ports and will fail to read the array otherwise

But if it's software it'll be fine

[smoky nebula]

got signal and lights on the keyboard

its only displaying part of the screen in the dead center

[blazing musk]

TV probably has overscan on

[smoky nebula]

ill try to disable it

we have a boot sequence

this is horrifically slow

[smoky nebula]

alright so itll boot prompt me for my password and after thats done itll do nothing

[blazing musk]

I think only one drive was detected now that I look at that first screenshot closer

[smoky nebula]

itll let me ctrlaltdel into the options but thats it

several ram sticks are defective, 24000~ mb detected

im in

[blazing musk]

I see you couldn't figure out the overscan, you can set underscan in Windows to compensate

https://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-10/how-to-fix-overscan-in-windows-10-to-fit-to-screen/
"Calibrate your monitor"

[smoky nebula]

alright so it looks like its one or the other type deal on the raid

either raid or ahci

i have a separate hard drive that isnt raid 0 with the other two what will it do with that

also when i plug them into the new pc it wont start

can i remove sys32 on the raided drives and then plug them in and expect it to work?

[blazing musk]

See what disk management says about the disks first

It can help pinpoint how the drives are set up

[smoky nebula]

no disc management access

when both drives are plugged in all my mb leds come on and it refuses to do anything

can i plug the drive in after the pc has booted

[blazing musk]

Only if it has hot plug enabled

And even then I've killed a drive doing that

[smoky nebula]

alright

im hoping i can get the old pc to post again so far its crashed 4 times because of memory issues

[blazing musk]

It might help to pull half the sticks out

And see how many are good then

[smoky nebula]

true

it booted up again

briefly scanned all my docs pics and what not

collected 6gbs to move onto a usb and hopefully itll be able to move everything before the next crash

i think the drives themselves are nearing the end of life

both are certified refurbished

[blazing musk]

That's entirely possible as well. The magnets in the drives do have a set life.

[small carbon]

Reminds me to stop slacking and maybe backup some old drives before they "die". Gotta put that 6TB WDblack to use, lol. (Plus would be handy to put 2 or 3 hdds into 1, then recycle).

[quiet gust]

No, SATA, tried on 3 pcs and even with the usb adapter, nothing

[worn trail]

Am I able to plug the SSD in my laptop to my desktop?

Not sure if it matters but I do have Win 10 installed and activated on that SSD.

[minor sun]

Theoretically, yes

[acoustic nest]

i've done it

although in reverse

[humble hemlock]

Hello, I'd like some help with something:

So my motherboard has one nvme slot, already populated with a 970 Evo Plus 512GB. I got a good deal on an Intel 670p 1tb so I have that as well. One of these becomes the boot/system drive and the other goes in an external enclosure to be a game/aux drive.

haven't found any conclusive comparison between the two but I should stick with the 970 Evo as my boot drive, right?

[blazing musk]

That's what I would do yes

[humble hemlock]

ogey

[quiet gust]

@blazing musk u know what the problem could be? Cuz I've looked online for solutions but nothing useful

[unique loom]

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW

is this like an insane discount or just marketing to make it seem discounted??

[real lava]

nope, it's all normal

1tb ssds with this fast perf used to be around almost 200

[unique loom]

yeah i saw it for 79.99 and thought that was unreal did they just lower them recently?

[real lava]

perhaps

haven't been checking on it

[small carbon]

80 for that is indeed a bit normal. It's sort of a gen 3.5 tbh (5k peak read vs 7k of the rocket plus, which is $120). Decent pick though right now, considering prices of other stuff. 1TB besides mp33/34 tier just have stayed near 80+ for a while.

[real lava]

yep

[iron raft]

I just upgraded from 1.2 tb of storage to 5tb storage, and I need to move my windows from my 240gb ssd to my 1tb nvme

how do I go about doing that

[sour wadi]

marcium reflect

[real lava]

imo I would just keep windows in that small drive

and use the new one for storage and games

[iron raft]

I need to remove it to install my 2tb hdd

[real lava]

fair enough

then refer to pato

[iron raft]

Thanks for this

My final issue before I can finally enjoy my pc: It's no longer recognizing my original 1tb hdd

I currently have two 1tb m.2 and two hdd installed

I was able to format the three new drives, but the old hdd that has all of my games, mods, and photos isn't recognized even in the partition list

[acoustic nest]

what's the difference between regular Raid 1 and ZFS mirroring

[iron raft]

Is there a limit to how many drives windows can detect?

[blazing musk]

Yes, home PCs assign drives letters to access them so it's limited to 26, the number of letters in the English alphabet. It can technically detect more but can't use more at once.

[iron raft]

I definitely don't have 27 drives installed... I have two HDDs installed and two m.2 SSDs installed, and yet my original drive (which was already previously formatted) doesn't even appear in the format list. It's properly plugged in from what I know of

[blazing musk]

Check disk management, it might just be secured by bitlocker or something

[iron raft]

Where would I check for that?

[blazing musk]

You can get to disk management by right clicking the start button

Then just see if it shows the right number of drives

If it does toss up a screenshot of it

[iron raft]

It does not, the original one was under (K:)

It shows the two SSD and the new 2tb

The original was a 1tb hdd

[blazing musk]

Interesting

Head into bios and see if it shows there

[iron raft]

Alright

[iron raft]

It does not

In order:

Primary NVME, 2tb HDD, secondary NVME

It's like the original drive isn't plugged in at all

[blazing musk]

It doesn't show on the SATA configuration page either?

Unplug it, boot up, shut down, and plug it in again

[iron raft]

Wait now that I'm looking at the sata thing, I'm remembering something

Using the on-board SATA for ssd disables the normal SATA for HDD right?

[blazing musk]

Some boards might disable certain ports yes

If you use the M.2

[iron raft]

Yeah that seems to be the case :(

[blazing musk]

Try another sata port then

[iron raft]

I don't think I have another one

I'm gonna settle with 4tb

I'll remove the m.2 that's blocking the hdd and then copy data from one hdd to the 2tb hdd

[blazing musk]

You don't have more sata ports? You should have at least 3 according to that

[iron raft]

I'm assuming the two on the bottom right above the on-board ssd port are two satas and the on-board ssd is the third?

(I remove the ssd prior to taking this image(

[blazing musk]

There's 2 ports in a stack

You have 4

[iron raft]

Ohhh right I forgot about that

[iron raft]

It is done

5tb in working order

Ty again

This server alone carried me through managing my pc

[old rock]

Is this installed correctly? I feel like the cover sticks out when I try to put it over the drive

[formal tusk]

That looks right

Wait

....

It has a small heatsink itself?

The drive

[old rock]

Predator GM7000, maybe?

[formal tusk]

Ah, yeah that looks like a heatsink already on it

Looks like this ye?

[old rock]

Yep, was I not supposed to peel the predator thing off? Should I leave the metal cover off?

[formal tusk]

It's not even a metal thin heatsink, I'm not sure actually

@minor sun thoughts ?

It's a graphene thin heatspreader not a metal one

Some heatsinks/heatspreaders don't come off properly so it's worth double-checking this

[old rock]

That’s the other m2 drive on this mother board, so I think it’s just a case of different m2 s and I leave the metal cover off that one

[formal tusk]

You can, but I'd use the predator as a boot drive

So I'd keep it in that top slot

[minor sun]

Leave the stock headspreader as it is unless you feel like the mobo headspreader will do a better job, in which case use the mobo headspreader

[old rock]

Final solution, thanks @formal tusk @minor sun

[small carbon]

Was there a standoff under (all) m.2 ssds?

[pine otter]

anyone have any ideas for game storage besides m.2? looking for best bang for buck

[minor sun]

Do you have no m.2 slots left? M.2 drives typically best bang for your buck nowadays

[pine otter]

yeah i do i just cant drop m.2 money at the moment lol

[small carbon]

Sata isn't really much cheaper unless in you're outside the usa & it'll help to mention country ssd is being purchased in.

[minor sun]

I mean no decent sata drive beats the pricing of this right now
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082BX6999

[cloud kiln]

hmm, what's a good m.2 nvme SSD that's 4tb? and equal or similar to a "wd pc sn735" (some oem gen 4? drive from wd. the drive that is in the zeph g15 2022)

(sn735 is supposedly 3400 MB/s read 2700 MB/s write)

[minor sun]

Sounds like a sn750 se but worse

No idea why they would call it gen 4

[minor sun]

Assuming the platform can use gen 4, try this
https://www.newegg.com/crucial-4tb-p3-plus/p/N82E16820156302

[cloud kiln]

it uses gen 4 (supposedly) but just preforms like garbage (for a gen 4)

[minor sun]

Yea but like sn750 SE at least fills the bandwidth of gen 3 but that doesn't even do that

[cloud kiln]

yeah i was originally thinking of getting the p3+, but was seeing if there were other better options, i'm assuming that the p3+ is probably the best value for the perf/storage?

i was looking at amazon's prices and newegg's prices for the same exact drive and my god

whole $100 more

oops

didn't screenshot the price

wait oh i just noticed that shipping isn't free

still under $400 though

[minor sun]

Wait

Are you Canadian?

[cloud kiln]

yes

[minor sun]

Ah fair enough

Free shipping in US

[cloud kiln]

import fees do be like this

honestly, i bet like most of the $23 is just import duty

huh interesting, i guess not

[small carbon]

The usd to cad price change is so wild sometimes. (I don't just mean conversion for 1 item, obviously)

[dawn sand]

https://www.newegg.com/seagate-exos-x20-st20000nm002d-20tb/p/N82E16822185016 hmmmm 20TB

[dawn sand]

https://www.newegg.com/gold-wd221kryz-22tb/p/N82E16822234525?Description=HARD DRIVE&cm_re=HARD_DRIVE-_-22-234-525-_-Product&quicklink=true

hehe they make 22tb

[blazing musk]

They make a helluva lot more than that

Toshiba is working on a 26tb one right now that's consumer grade

When you start looking at Enterprise grade, things get ridiculous https://www.techradar.com/news/at-100tb-the-worlds-biggest-ssd-gets-an-eye-watering-price-tag

[dawn sand]

[open gazelle]

NimbusData apparently getting 200tb soon

[dawn sand]

oml thats huge

[dawn sand]

@blazing musk but I have a question will a larger size hard drive last longer or to the same amount of time as a lower size drive

Saying they are in a good environment

[blazing musk]

It depends more on the model than the size

Some models have the larger drives last longer, others literally explode after 3 years

[dawn sand]

[blazing musk]

Have you ever seen a drive platter shatter? It's pretty violent

[dawn sand]

um no i try avoid that

[blazing musk]

https://youtu.be/t8sm5tNllvw

Here one instant, gone the next

[dawn sand]

well ig what i can do is get 8TB for rn plus i have 4TB

[blazing musk]

That's more than the majority of people needs

[dense merlin]

Kenzie what are you downloading to need 12tb

[dawn sand]

I'm donwloading games into it

[dense merlin]

You'd have to spend an ungodly amount on games to be able to fill 12tb

[blazing musk]

Or 5 cod installs

[dawn sand]

plus im gunna store my google photos into it so i can cancel google planm

[dawn sand]

well i have steam plus epic plus xbox pass for games

[dense merlin]

I highly doubt you have more than a few hundred gb of photos. Even that's an insane amount

[blazing musk]

RAW photos are the only way to use up that much space

[dawn sand]

well rn its 50GB from 3-4 years ish

[dense merlin]

Unless you are installing literally every game you own right now, there's no point in buying 12tb right now

I doubt you own enough games to fill a 4tb hdd

[dawn sand]

no im gunna install them first and see where that leads me

[blazing musk]

Game pass tho

[dense merlin]

Ok kenzie

[dense merlin]

A lot of people don't play a majority of the games on it

[blazing musk]

I know but that doesn't stop people downloading them and never playing them

[dawn sand]

game pass has started coming out with better games

there forza 5 on it

[dense merlin]

Yeah, which is pretty stupid

[blazing musk]

Flight sim

[dense merlin]

It's been on it for a while

[dawn sand]

thats on my C drive brrrr

[blazing musk]

Takes 150gb on it's own

[dawn sand]

but also some games are just story games so you play it one time and you can delete after

also battle field is on game pass

[dense merlin]

I know what games are on game pass

[blazing musk]

That's true they just added a bunch of EA and Ubisoft games

[dense merlin]

I still say there is a very high chance you will need nowhere near 12tb

[dawn sand]

well 12TB would just probs be extra

[dense merlin]

I've 5.5tb and use maybe 1.5

Most of that is things I don't play

[blazing musk]

I barely need 3tb and that's with 4 operating systems installed

[dawn sand]

well i have 6TB rn

[dense merlin]

And you have tons of free space

So why are you buying more

[dawn sand]

........

im gunna install the games and if i run out of space ill just buy more then

[dense merlin]

Then why are you here. Saying you are going to buy more storage. Instead of installing them and then coming here

[dawn sand]

i am installing them but its gunna take time

[dense merlin]

I do not have words to express my thoughts right now

[blazing musk]

Damn right it will take time, literally days of downloading

[dawn sand]

[blazing musk]

Yeah I remember your net speed lol

[dawn sand]

i downloaded a 200GB game took like 4 plus hours

[dawn sand]

cod high res pack is like 232GB

also i have a short attention span so i play one game and i go to the next

[blazing musk]

I hope your ISP doesn't cap your monthly download capacity. I know Comcast does at 1.2tb monthly.

Then it's like $20 per 100gb over

[dawn sand]

also i dont think theres a cap

[blazing musk]

I'd double check that before downloading 4tb

[dawn sand]

they said no cap on websitew

[blazing musk]

What ISP

[dawn sand]

centylink

[dawn sand]

[blazing musk]

Luckily they don't seem to charge you, just yell at you

[dense merlin]

That is incredible lucky

Like, insanely lucky

Other plans charge per gigabyte over your limit

Pretty sure mine is something absurd like $10 per gigabyte over 1tb

Meaning you'd be $1850 in the hole right now if you were on my plan

[blazing musk]

Mine is actually unlimited and I love it

[dense merlin]

Mine was unlimited

Then they decided it wasn't anymore

[blazing musk]

Oof

[dense merlin]

1tb is more than enough for my family though

My mom works for Verizon so we all get unlimited data for less than most people pay for 10gb plans, so we use data on our phones at home

[blazing musk]

Yeah that's plenty for most families, unless you're constantly streaming 4k

[dense merlin]

My brother, mom and dad are on their computers most of the day though

Parents work from home and my brother doesn't have work/college rn

[blazing musk]

Most ISPs waived fees during lockdowns during the peak of COVID at least

[dense merlin]

I actually don't know what our isp is

[dawn sand]

@blazing musk but im looking to get rid of this internet and go back into my moms which is not 80mpbs its 40

[dense merlin]

Wait nvm it's Comcast

[blazing musk]

How's the t-mobile service in your area? 5g active yet? At least 4 bars? $50 gets you unlimited from them

[dawn sand]

t-moblie internet no i have there serice tho

[blazing musk]

Check availability then https://www.t-mobile.com/home-internet/eligibility

[dawn sand]

I already did

they said no

[blazing musk]

Ah, oh well

[dawn sand]

only other internet would be star link

[blazing musk]

Cuz I get 600 down and 300 up from them lol, much better than 40

[dawn sand]

yea

@blazing musk these are whats avaible

[blazing musk]

Ew satellite

[dawn sand]

[dawn sand]

yea

[cloud kiln]

10k rpm hdd fr

[dawn sand]

they haved 15k

but its sas

[cloud kiln]

haved?

haved????

kenzie 💀

[blazing musk]

Because it's too fast on sequential read for SATA

[dawn sand]

Omg

[dawn sand]

Sad

[cloud kiln]

kenzie, what is the past tense of have

[dawn sand]

Idk

Has

[cloud kiln]

has is present tense

[dawn sand]

Listen here I failed English class

[cloud kiln]

it's had

had is past tense

[dawn sand]

They have 15k

Better

[cloud kiln]

ok that works as well

[small carbon]

15k was/is generally enterprise/server market. WD did have their 10k raptor hdds though. Price was obviously nutty high.

[indigo condor]

I have an SN550 250gb nvme and i just got a P5 Plus 4.0 NVme would it be faster to switch my windows/os to the p5?

And how would i do that

[turbid crater]

Pci 3.0 vs 4.0 for gaming loads only a few seconds faster for gaming when using pci 4.0.

[sour wadi]

I would, plus having a larger boot drive is nice

[indigo condor]

would my OS be faster?

@sour wadi

And how would i do it without losing anything

[sour wadi]

Probably wouldn't see a major difference in day to day

But downloading things to your c drive will be faster and stuff like that

Moving files on the same drive

[sour wadi]

Macrium reflect

[indigo condor]

Ahh okay thanks I appreciate it makes sense

Is there a drive that would be noticeable? Just out of curiosity lol

[sour wadi]

It's more the fact that sn550 already has a pretty decent random performance, p5 plus deff is better tho,random perf is what you are using most of the time

[small carbon]

If it* was me I probably would just "add" the new ssd & that's it. Very ez to set the default DL spot & steam installs to it.

[sour wadi]

Sure but that means you have to change location of everything instead of it being auto

[small carbon]

Steam & a couple web browsers, not much else for me. Partly just 250GB becoming storage drive doesn't seem super useful, but at least the possible clone of sn550 to P5 is pretty ez.

[sour wadi]

Sure but when installing programs you'll have to change it every time

[small carbon]

I suppose if installing much that's not from steam or such it* could add up, makes sense.

[worn trail]

What would happen if I had a Win11 PC setup and decided to add two extra drives but one of those drives had win10 and tried to run the PC?

Just curious.

[real lava]

It would simply bring up a menu for you to choose which OS to boot into

[worn trail]

Ahh I see.

[worn trail]

Would there be any harm in me plugging my laptop's ssd into my computer?

[real lava]

nah

can still boot fine

[worn trail]

gotcha. this would be my first time trying this, do I just take it out of my laptop, open the back of my pc case and connect the two via a sata cable?

[real lava]

yeah

and a sata power cable from psu

[worn trail]

currently trying to figure out how the heck I take the back panel off my laptop.

I got the battery unplugged and the screws out but there is no latch or visible way to take it open./

[real lava]

you might have to use a guitar pick

and pop the bottom panel off

or just a thin card

[real lava]

I still see screws in the batt bay

Remove those too

[worn trail]

Got it.

Done

Now what do I do?

I have a guitar pick if I need one.

[real lava]

Yeah you will need one

https://youtu.be/UCCCXxWe4Mo

I would follow this guide

[worn trail]

Thanks.

[worn trail]

Bloody hell this was annoying to take out.

One of the screws was stripped so I couldn't take the panel off completely.

Had to do this to pop it out.

[blazing musk]

Ah yes, HP and their crappy soft metal screws that strip for no reason and are torqued to hell from factory

[worn trail]

Felt that.

[worn trail]

Which part of this do I connect to my SSD?

I see 3 plugs I am not sure what the 3rd is for.

[blazing musk]

Any of the 3

You just need power and data plugs

[real lava]

^

[quiet gust]

Any solutions for SSD not showing up in disk manager nor windows?

[formal tusk]

what's the goss on the solidigm p44 pro?

[formal tusk]

Interesting, as good as a P41 Platinum apparently

[formal tusk]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/solidigm-p44-pro-ssd-review

[real lava]

ayo

p41 but qlc

wait unless it's still the solidigm we're talking about

[formal tusk]

It's solidigm

But tbh it looks better overall to me than p41 platinum

That said, I've only read 1 review

[blazing musk]

Tom's is usually good about drive reviews at least

Interesting, 3Dmark storage test it beat the SK Hynix P41

And PCmark

Synthetics look functionally identical

It uses a little more power but that's not a deal breaker comparing 4W to 6W

[small carbon]

Funny them calling it a deal because of msrp 220 vs 260ish p41 plat while we know the latter is sometimes 170 or 200ish. (More "competition" not bad though)

[blazing musk]

We all know SSD MSRP is BS because they keep falling in price all the time

[quiet gust]

Just got a 2tb SD card for 5€ on AliExpress, wasn't expecting it to be real but apparently it works
Of course there's a catch, 15MB/s read and 5MB/s write

[blazing musk]

Try writing 100gb to it and then try to read what you wrote

1000:1 odds it's corrupted

They can hack the firmware so it appears to be 2TB but it's actually a lot less and if you write past the physical capacity it overwrites data

[dense merlin]

^

probably like 8gb

[sour wadi]

Maybe 32

[quiet gust]

I'll try... It's gonna take a while

It's just 5€ anyways if I got scammed

[blazing musk]

It's 100% you got scammed, it's only a question of what you actually got

[ripe escarp]

Should you be running Disk Clean Up on a SSD? Doesn't a Disk Clean Up harm the SSD by using up write cycles?

[blazing musk]

Disk cleanup only deletes old temp and backup data, as well as the recycling bin

It doesn't use write cycles because it's deleting, not writing

Which on a SSD is done by flagging files for the TRIM command to automatically clean when the disk is idle

What you might be thinking of is secure deletion, where data is not only deleted but rendered unrecoverable by writing random data over it

Or perhaps disk defragmenter, which used to hurt SSDs until Windows got smarter

[ripe escarp]

I was thinking of defragging

[blazing musk]

Modern Windows knows not to defrag a SSD, instead calling it "optimizing" and it just manually triggers the aforementioned TRIM command

[ebon dome]

WD-SN850x 1TB is on sale for $100 right now, should I pull the trigger?

The Crucial P5 Plus is only $81… not as good but nearly $20 cheaper

[sour wadi]

I honestly wouldn't when you can get decent 2tb for like 20$ more

[blazing marten]

solidgim p41 2tb is at 120 or so most of the time

[dense merlin]

Mp33 was $105 last I checked

[sour wadi]

Well yeah but sn850x is a large jump over mp33, weather you'll notice that day to day or not (probably not) is different

[minor sun]

P41 plus is also a slightly jump from mp33

[ebon dome]

I bought a 1TB SN750 like 2 years ago and picked up a 1TB SN770 last year, so it would make sense to get the SN850x lol

Do you all use the brands your recommending? I just want something I know is gonna be quality

[minor sun]

We only ever recommend products, not the brand, every brand makes good and bad products

[ebon dome]

That’s facts. I meant products but sometimes I get confused

[dense merlin]

The sn850x is good, but its pointless to upgrade to from the sn770

[ebon dome]

I have one Gen 4 M.2 slot left so I’m trying to fill it with something, I’ll use the storage. I might save a little bit more and get a 2TB of whatever since it seems to be more cost effective.

[dense merlin]

If its just for gaming you don't need gen 4, there's no difference between gen 4 and gen3 for gaming

If you do need gen 4, s70 blade is on sale in #tech-deals

[neat crescent]

Hmm I’ve been trying to resize my drive and now it shows inaccessible boot and I checked in diskpart and it appears the the two volumes were switched so volume 1 which is the drive where the OS should be installed became volume 3 and they also changed letters…

[small carbon]

Not atl (all time low), but $180 2TB plat p41 if anyone needing great gen 4 right now. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09QVD9V7R?th=1

[trail wedge]

idk i got ignored in the other place so ima ask here lol i recently got a new pc and i was wonder is the speeds were fast heres a pic of me downloading god of war

[blazing musk]

Seems normal to me

~175 Mbps

[trail wedge]

great

[red jay]

Can anyone tell me what the best possible ram is for my pc? It’s my first build. i9 13900, 4080rtx, z690 are my specs.

[undone dune]

whats your use case

[red jay]

Im not 100% sure man, it’s a prebuilt from cyber power & the ram is the only thing I wanna change immediately. I can try to find out which case it is tho.

[undone dune]

no i mean, you're using it for work, gaming or basic stuff? and what ram did they put in it

[red jay]

Ahhhh! Just gaming mostly some & personal use etc… & the ram that’s in it doesn’t look like a normal ram stick, it’s super thin, blue in color & looks really cheap honestly.

[undone dune]

do you already have the pc?

[red jay]

Yessir I do!

[undone dune]

check taskmanager and show us this.

[red jay]

10/4, I’m at work right now but I can once I get home.

[undone dune]

kk

[analog saffron]

So trying to figure out how to recover files from a M.2 on a PCIe 4 slot M.2 board. It used to be a Boot drive from my previous motherboard but wasnt able to get my new board to boot from it. It ran Win 10 and I am running Win 10 currently. Windows reads it as RAW for some reason. WIndows Disk Utility sees the 2 partitions on the drive and has drive letters associated with the partitions. When I try to access what I want to recover from the drive I get Access Denied and then when I try to change the security so I can access it I get a Error message saying "A device which does not exist was specified" even though Windows still sees the drive and partitions. ANy help would be awesome

[blazing musk]

Try a Linux live USB and see if it picks up all the partitions right. If not it might have been encrypted with bitlocker or something, which would also prevent it from booting with a different motherboard or CPU.

[analog saffron]

@blazing musk Ive never used a bitlocker on that drive. All the partitions read properly in the Windows Disk Managment. Its when I go to use AOMEI to try and clone it that Its not visible but shows up as a disk number in the system and as a MBR.

I can access stuff on the drive as well but It views it as RAW instead of NTFS. When I check the properties on the drive it says RAW but Disk Manager shows NTFS

I just get locked out at a certain Level of access from doing much of anything

[cerulean monolith]

i upgraded to a bigger m.2 for the 2nd slot and it messed up my boot to where it can't run unless i put the old one in.
what do i do?

B550 pro-p for arorus btw. so gigabyte bios stuff

[blazing musk]

Did you reinstall Windows when you upgraded?

[cerulean monolith]

it wasn't meant to have it. its a 2nd drive for storage.

[blazing musk]

Oh you had a drive in there previously and you replaced it with a larger one? Is that right?

[cerulean monolith]

#1 m.2 is os
#2 m.2 is extra storage

upgraded #2 slot is no longer lettin #1 boot

[blazing musk]

Sounds like the bootloader got installed onto the old #2 drive

[cerulean monolith]

it was formatted before being loaded onto the slot. i don't belive it may happen

the old #2 m.2

[blazing musk]

Formatted or cleaned?

[cerulean monolith]

both

[blazing musk]

Actually what you can do is load the old #2 drive in, boot up, and load disk management. Put up a screenshot of that. That'll tell me everything about how it boots.

[cerulean monolith]

there is no win os partitons in it if thats what youre looking for

[blazing musk]

That's fine

I just want to see where the boot partition is

[cerulean monolith]

aw damn it, there is one

okay... mb then, so what then?

how can i get this off or change the manager to get the new storage not messin with the original boot?

[blazing musk]

Sadly the easiest way is to reinstall Windows on a clean drive, with only the one drive installed, but if you're determined you can boot a Linux USB, edit the main drive by shrinking the main partition and shifting them all to the right, and then copy the boot partition. Then you'd have to remove the old drive and probably do a startup repair from a Windows install USB.

[cerulean monolith]

isn't all of that acessable on windows already?
shrinking is an option on here, so is changing it's path

[blazing musk]

But the partition itself is blocked by Windows

You can't read or edit it, it's a security feature as a defense against rootkits

You also can't edit an active partition like that while it's in use

[cerulean monolith]

okay, reinstalling ubutun to the flash drive, then what?

[blazing musk]

You'll open gparted and shrink the Windows drive by 51MB

Then shift all the partitions to the right as far as they go

Finally copy the boot partition and paste that into the empty space

You can delete the old copy if you want

[cerulean monolith]

okay, linux installs keep failing, nevermind. stuck with this set up

[blazing musk]

You don't need to install linux for it to work, just a live disk

[blazing musk]

It's often easier to backup your data you need, wipe the drive deleting all partitions, and then reinstall with only the drive you want Windows on plugged in.

[cerulean monolith]

so format and cleaning the #2 old m.2 do something now?

this #2 m.2 slot is for extra storage only again, no win install is going on it.

[blazing musk]

Formatting alone won't do it

But you can use that drive to backup your data

Just make sure it's not plugged in when you go to install Windows

[vivid jackal]

I had a SD card that I put pics and stuff on my old PC and it died sadly and now im on Mac i cant open any of the files, I dont usually encrypt them but sometimes I do just in case. I

I've done file conversion, and DTS converter and still just giving me an error. Any tips? 🙂

[blazing musk]

Do you know what file system the SD card used?

[vivid jackal]

linux

[blazing musk]

That's an operating system

File systems are different and Mac is VERY picky about them

[vivid jackal]

oh i read your question wrong! i think its FAT or exFAT

yes mac is very picky ugh

i wish i could use mums pc but im too paranoid she'll see my files lol

[blazing musk]

If it's exFAT then Mac can't read it

At least not last I could check

[vivid jackal]

is there any software that can reformat it?

[small carbon]

You realize reformat would delete what's on there?

[summer fox]

Hey all, I have a Dell Inspiron 5577 “Gaming” laptop that originally came with a 128GB M.2 SATA SSD (and a 1TB HDD). The 128GB SSD has been full for a bit, so I wanted to upgrade the storage space with a 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD. I bought an external USB enclosure for the new SSD, as the laptop has only one M.2 port.

Can anyone help me figure out the best way to clone the 128GB SSD to the 1TB SSD so that I could then take the 128GB drive out of my laptop, install the 1TB drive, and actually have windows boot up from it…?

I’ve read and watched a bunch of stuff about trying to do this and I can’t seem to get it to work. Thank you to anyone who can either help me or point me in the right direction. ✌️

[blazing musk]

Macrium reflect, it's the best free option

[summer fox]

That’s what I used to clone the old SSD to new SSD. My issue is how do I then get my laptop, which only has one M.2 slot, to boot up Windows as normal off of the new SSD.

[plush crag]

You cloned from the 128 to the 1TB, installed the 1TB, and it didn't boot?

[iron raft]

Oh god why is there always an issue with my storage

My SSD is flashing red

And idk what that means but all I know is that Warzone II is running 20 fps average now

down from 88

even main menu

I have a feeling this is storage related because my RAM, GPU, CPU, and VRAM usage is perfectly fine, and so are my temperatures

[real lava]

what's your specs on the pc?

[open gazelle]

What do you mean by that?
In a program? Physical light and if so where (mobo, actual SSD, somewhere else)?

[golden hedge]

Stupid question, but, I'm considering upgrading my storage. Already have an m.2 SSD running as system storage, and I have a 1tb barracuda for other files. I've thought about getting a 3.5HDD with 6TB capacity, but from what I remember when they were new, there were problems with longevity and access speeds for reads. Does that still hold true? Is it a better idea over say, several HDDs raided together?

I have an ASUS ROG STRIX B450-E GAMING for a mobo, so I should still have an M.2 card slot free, as well as two PCIE x16 slots.

I'm not starved for IO, I'm just looking for something that will give me a nice balance between capacity, access speed and installation ease

I've been considering getting an PCIE16 M.2 card and filling it out and raiding that together for some 1tb per SSD, and decent speeds, but I'm not sure.

[minor sun]

Depending on how much storage you actually need, just another single 2tb a60 for 105$ might be all you need

Nothing fancy

Could grab an HDD if you plan on more storage than that

[blazing musk]

Modern SSDs have solved all the major problems from the early days. You can write to modern nand memory tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of times per cell.
If you really need 6TB+ for just storage and not speed a single HDD will still be fine. I'd advise against RAID, it introduces too many potential problems and variables.

[dense merlin]

Just got a 2tb x6 portable ssd for $60

The 4tb was $70 but oos, if only I'd woken up earlier lol

I've almost no use for the storage, I'll probably give it to my brother

[sour wadi]

Sheesh

[golden hedge]

Idea is I have many large single files I work with (images, 3d, etc.) And need a large storage solution inside my case, which would be great with a 5tb HDD. Just worried about speeds as well as stability and reliability.

[harsh sage]

Do you guys like my new ssd

[brisk dome]

Long gone by now I assume?

[brisk dome]

Scratched State Drive?

[harsh sage]

[upper quiver]

what computer that?

bro is that a 5170?

imma guess that's not your pic

[harsh sage]

It is my picture lol

[blazing musk]

Microcontroller city in there

[harsh sage]

lol

[lone vapor]

hi, i have an hdd of unknown origin

When I plug it in my pc won’t boot, so it probably works. Is there any way to clear it?

[blazing musk]

How unknown are we talking? Found on the side of the road unknown or taken from an old office pc unknown?

[lone vapor]

It was supposed to be cleared, it’s in a server I have

[blazing musk]

Hmm. So the PC doesn't boot when you plug it in, with the OS on another drive?

Does it get to the bios?

[open gazelle]

Regarding speed, HDD should be okay for storage. Ideally you want to use the SSD (currently OS drive) as a scratch drive tho. As for reliability, . Good HDD will be fine tho.

[lone vapor]

I believe so but I’ll check later

It’s really nice, 6gbps read speeds so I really want to get it

[blazing musk]

That translates to about 500MB/s max in the real world accounting for overhead, and most HDDs can't hit that

And that's also only consecutive reads

[lone vapor]

It’s fine lmao

I don’t care it’s storage

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[blazing musk]

Yeah speed doesn't matter much on a storage drive

[lone vapor]

I’m using it for like games I don’t touch much and medal clips

Once I can use it anyways

[upper quiver]

bro please tell me that drive was dead to begin with

why on earth do you have one of those things anyway...

[blazing musk]

IDE drives are still needed on some older platforms

[upper quiver]

could have flipped that drive alone on ebay for like 150

those things are museum pieces nowadays, and people are desperate to get functional drives

so i at least hope you confirmed it was nonfunctional before making it nonfunctional yourself

goofy

[blazing musk]

Ehhh no https://www.ebay.com/itm/234799423526

[upper quiver]

🤦

the st-225

5.25" hdd

[blazing musk]

Oh I hadn't noticed that part

[upper quiver]

varying condition is like 80-150

for just the drive

[upper quiver]

anyway, ive been dying to get my hands on a 5170, so dont do anymore damage to it before i have another panic attack lol

treat it right at least :(

[harsh sage]

Probably, this was a recycled machine. Already had those scratches in the platter too

I don't destroy hardware on a whim like some idiots do. I rarely destroy hardware actually. I'm aware lots of things still have use

[blazing musk]

Actual problem I dealt with early in my career:
"I heard you were supposed to clean your hard drive so I opened it and wiped it"
"Wait... what?"
"Yeah with a cloth on the disk drive."

[upper quiver]

that makes me feel better

does the system work? it looks like it would for sure

[harsh sage]

I wouldnt know

I dont really have the ability to take systems out of the ewaste bin and test them

I just grab bits of hardware when I can.

I dont like good stuff being ground to dust because the owner was too stupid to google what it is and see it's still worth something

you wouldnt believe the hardware i've gotten lol

[upper quiver]

well if you dont want it that badly

and if your going to fork's in march

bring it with you

lol

[harsh sage]

No I literally cant take a giant 50LB machine like that out of the bin. Even though one of my managers doesnt care, it's too obvious that I'm taking stuff, and I dont have space for it at home

[upper quiver]

aww

5170 helped define a whole era of computing, its a neat machine

[harsh sage]

I did just get a iphone 5 from the bin today lmao

works just fine it seems

3rd one

[upper quiver]

lol nice

[harsh sage]

yea I have a blue and white 5c and this black 5

[lone vapor]

Hi

i got the hdd to get detected in bios, but when I try to boot my monitor just says something about input not supported @blazing musk

👍

[blazing musk]

It's probably got an OS on it already and it's interfering with the boot sequence

[lone vapor]

i was told it doesnt have an os

but it may

can i wipe it from bios?

[blazing musk]

Is it in that 12700k system in your name

[lone vapor]

yes

[blazing musk]

Then yes you can, what brand motherboard

[lone vapor]

its msi

b660m

[blazing musk]

You can try using the secure erase function under the advanced menu

[lone vapor]

alright

[blazing musk]

It's intended for SSDs but should work on a HDD in theory

[lone vapor]

Ok

[lone vapor]

Is it called secure erase?

It’s not showing up

Nvm

It’s here

[harsh sage]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/western-digital-unveils-dual-actuator-hdds

[remote crystal]

@olive wadi what is this abomination

the "nand" (government psyop) is spreading to hdds

we must purge all our devices and run

[real lava]

i guess you've not heard of sshd

[olive wadi]

no i havent

[dense merlin]

The crucial website is useless

Why do you have to jump through 20 different hoops to cancel an order

Only to find out you can't

And there's a big ass button that says "return" when you're viewing the order that isn't even where you "return" it, it's a button to go back a step

[open gazelle]

Have you tried turning the world off and on again??? Maybe you'll reset to a save point before your purchase.
Also hope it can be sorted out with CS easily but prolly not

[lethal spade]

Hi, I am looking at buying a QNAP TS-453D-8G-US Diskless System Network Storage. I plan on using 4 * 8TB drives (seagate iron). From what I can see I can install m2 NVME. For this I need the QM2 card. Am I missing anything??

[cerulean monolith]

any disk cloning software that's good? also possibly free

[small carbon]

Macrium reflect

[blazing musk]

@cerulean monolith what he said

[minor sun]

https://www.pugetsystems.com/support/guides/critical-samsung-ssd-firmware-update/

[real lava]

ssd failure moment

[blazing musk]

"I buy premium brands because they're reliable and I don't need to worry!"

[harsh sage]

NOT EXACT IN ROUND

[formal tusk]

II IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII II

[harsh sage]

Literally rn

[dawn sand]

I mean technically it's good but this just is not sadly

[dawn sand]

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