old-monitors-and-tv

[wary wave]

it is but we dont know what Lefty's definition of "break the bank" is

[fading wyvern]

True

[molten steeple]

well I was hoping for less than 800$ but dont think its possible

Or is it worth it to get a 27in 4k monitor? I didn't think it would be so if there isn't any reasonable deals for a 32in ill probably find a 27in 1440p one

[fading wyvern]

Ah in that case the $300 M27q is the 1440p go to option, 4K at 27-28in isn’t great

[molten steeple]

Thanks Ill look in to it. I want a 4k monitor for movie watching and productivity reasons, but I just don't think I can find a monitor that will fit my budget that is 32in. And I think my OCD may drive me nuts if I have a 32in and a 27in monitor lol

[molten steeple]

my current monitor is VG270U, It looks like the gigabyte would be an upgrade to my current monitor yes/

[fading wyvern]

It’s a great monitor check the pins if you wanna look at some of the chats recommended stuff

[molten steeple]

all these years Ive used discord and I have never noticed the pin messages... lol thanks for the help

[fading wyvern]

Np have a good one

[hybrid lodge]

Hi, I'm a bit confused here. I have a M27Q and I'm trying to use my laptop as secondary monitor with KVM but I have no idea which cable I should plug into which device.

[quartz sandal]

You cant use laptop as a 2nd monitor without streaming the display from your basically, but the way a kvm works is you use the usb ports on the monitor

[hybrid lodge]

So I plug the Type C into the monitor and Type A into laptop?

[graceful tapir]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/lg-32gk650f-b-vs-viewsonic-vx2758-2kp-mhd/893/1670?usage=9091&threshold=0.1

Any thoughts on these?

[visual pilot]

I mean, its just as expected, the VX2758-2kp-mhd being IPS is nicer for color, good response time, and a bit worse contrast

[quartz sandal]

Type c and type a from what cable going where?

[hybrid lodge]

I scrolled through the gigabyte website and it says it requires a USB 3.1, so I should be using a cable with the USB 3 head on both sides? I'm really getting more and more confused

[visual pilot]

USB 3.1 is basically just the data transfer protocol

USB type C can be USB 3.1, USB type A can also be USB 3.1

What KVM asks for is USB-C cable from the monitor to the second device you want to be using

[jolly quiver]

What’s the best 27inch monitor for FPS CSGO game? I have 144hz looking for an upgrade

[molten steeple]

So looking for second monitor, is there any negatives to getting a 60hz monitor when my main one is 144? All I see is extra cost for higher hz that I wont be using to the best of my knowledge. The second monitor will only be for videos and documents about 95% of the time.

[misty gyro]

60Hz is fine for a secondary display. There's certain models of gpu that didn't like having uneven refresh rates but I think they've fixed that by now.

[misty gyro]

Under what budget? The best are around $800-1000

[jolly quiver]

Around $500-1000 max

[misty gyro]

Maybe the Acer Predator XB273U GXbmiipruzx. It's a highly rated 1440p 270Hz display, $600-650

[jolly quiver]

For some reason not a big fan of Acer, how about Asus?

[misty gyro]

You could always go for the Samsung odyssey g7, or Gigabyte AORUS FI27Q-X.
Asus doesn't have many high refresh monitors in that class.

[molten steeple]

thanks for the input. Im guessing that a 3080 FE won't have any problems? I was reading about the problems but they seem like a thing of the past like you said

[misty gyro]

Right, not an issue on the new gen.

I've got a 165/60 dual screen setup on mine no issue

[wild coral]

RandomAsian#0284 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

RandomAsian#0284 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[cobalt ridge]

can anyone recommend me a good budget monitor with IPS and G-Sync?

[noble current]

@cobalt ridge a 27" 1440P and 144hz the Gigabyte M27Q is highly recommended in this chat

[cobalt ridge]

uhh are there a little cheaper ones?

[noble current]

well there is, some Asus or AOC

[cobalt ridge]

What Asus is there?

[noble current]

I seen the gigabyte M27Q as low as $270. Maybe should wait for the sales

[misty gyro]

A good quality 1440p 144hz display will not be cheap like a 1080p would. M27Q is the cheapest we usually recommend, anything less will have noticeable quality issues like bad color.

[noble current]

VG27BQ maybe

[visual pilot]

What budget

And what resolution

1440p144hz is a lot more expensive than 1080p144hz

M27Q is great for 1440p170hz, but if you're looking for 1080p144hz, go look at G241/G242/24G2/G24F

[noble current]

I'm waiting for the M32U to go down in price. 😛 or the M32Q. Will see

[quartz sandal]

Msi g241

[novel merlin]

Are there any 4k 120hz monitors that aren't curved what the hecc

[misty gyro]

Plenty

[novel merlin]

Why are so many of them curved

I despise curved monitors

I also hate big monitors too. 4K at 27/23.5 inches is hard to find sadly

[misty gyro]

They're usually bigger screens, and VA is easier to hit those specs

[novel merlin]

Yeahhh

[misty gyro]

At 27" just get 1440p

[novel merlin]

I hate imperfect scaling

I'll stick at 1080p until 4k gets decent enough at smaller screen sizes

I plan to stay gaming at 1080p with legacy games at higher resolution

4K perfectly scales 1080p so I'm looking for that

My 2060 is no longer a 1440p card

For the settings I play at at least

[visual pilot]

@novel merlin m28u

[novel merlin]

That looks decent, thank you

Only HDR400 sadly but seems pretty good

[visual pilot]

HDR is expensive

so yea

[novel merlin]

What's funny is you can buy a great HDR 4K TV for less than the silly monitor

All because said TV can serve you ads lol

[misty gyro]

Yeah but the TV won't have as many gamer focused features like VRR

[novel merlin]

I saw a $170 45 inch 4K TV the other day and just stared at it

Like they can't make that much on ads can they?

[raw ingot]

they can

[misty gyro]

When the ads take over 1/3 of the screen yeah

[raw ingot]

^

[fading wyvern]

Facebooks strategy is showing up pretty often on everything… sorry meta’s* strategy

[raw ingot]

[quartz sandal]

M32u actually worth it

[novel merlin]

Tbh I may just use a raspberry pie and set up a network filter to block all ads lol

[visual pilot]

I also hate big monitors too. 4K at 27/23.5 inches is hard to find sadly

[quartz sandal]

But it just doesn't make sense at 27", at least for gaming

[visual pilot]

Its what they want, and that's the option I gave them :p

[quartz sandal]

Fair

[maiden wedge]

hello me need 1440p 144hz+ Ips g sync below 300

[misty gyro]

Usually on sale $270-300

[maiden wedge]

thankss ill keep an eye on it

[quartz sandal]

If you hard cannot go above 300, g27q is fairly close to m27q if you don't wanna wait

[maiden wedge]

alr

[orchid forum]

Anyone Know how I can enable HDR when using a QN90A TV as a monitor?

Windows seems to think it isnt HDR capable

[raw ingot]

Maybe ya just gotta enable it within the TV's menus itself

[hot zephyr]

hmm

My monitor stand just arrived

I got everything in place, now I just need to attach my ASUS VP228 to it (100x100 VESA)

However none of the screws I have in a box of random screws seem to fit.

Is there any way I can hack this together? The nearest screw store is quite far away here in France.

OH WAIT

The stand came with screws. And I am just blind.

[hot zephyr]

Thank you, Darvan, for the encouragement ;)

[rich badger]

Is this a good monitor? $220
https://www.newegg.com/viewsonic-vx2758-2kp-mhd-27-wqhd/p/N82E16824116900?Item=N82E16824116900&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-116-900-_-11122021

[hot zephyr]

Does a monitor need the ground prong of the power cable connected?

[hot zephyr]

Hmm.. when I connect my VP228 display with a DP->HDMI cable, all of my displays begin periodically lagging.

It "hitches" every second or so.

What could cause this? I only have aa DP output left on my 3060Ti, but this monitor only has HDMI/VGA/DVI

[quartz sandal]

That looks like a nice deal

[quartz sandal]

Uhhh isn't there a ground prong in everything?

[hot zephyr]

I only have American universal power supply cables, and my only adapters are two-prong.

[quartz sandal]

I mean you can buy kettle leads for like 10€ ish

Probs easier than adapters

[hot zephyr]

I temporarily stole a power cable from a kitchen appliance and and the monitor works, but now I'm getting this weird "hitching" issue

[quartz sandal]

I'm not sure why it would hitch

[hot zephyr]

When I connect the VP228 with a DP->HDMI cable, it makes it and all the other monitors start lagging.

[quartz sandal]

Hmm

[misty gyro]

It could need a driver or firmware update

[hot zephyr]

I recall this happening last year when I tried this.

Can the monitor's firmware be updated?

[misty gyro]

The asus VP228? Let me check

VP228H or VP228HE?

[hot zephyr]

On the back it says: VP228 VP228H

[misty gyro]

Driver https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/LCD Monitors/VP228/VP228_WHQL_20160510.zip

[hot zephyr]

:o

What do I do with this file?

Right click on the inf and install?

[misty gyro]

Go into device manager, find the monitor, and tell it update driver. Point it to the folder you extract that to.

[hot zephyr]

They are all called Generic PnP Monitor

[misty gyro]

Try each one

[hot zephyr]

actually only one has events on Nov 13

[misty gyro]

That's probably it then

[hot zephyr]

https://your-face.is-ne.at/5fvj0XnnV.gif

[misty gyro]

Hmm, try extracting the cab.zip

[hot zephyr]

hmm I got here https://your-face.is-ne.at/5fvjs6cfH.png

I could navigate to that .inf file

[misty gyro]

That's what you'll do if it's not auto detected yeah

[hot zephyr]

yeah I can just do this

This driver is not digitally signed!

Now it shows the model though instead of Generic PnP Monitor.

Shall I install it?

[misty gyro]

Go ahead

Then reboot and see if it helps. If not roll it back.

[hot zephyr]

It's unhappy.

[misty gyro]

You can disable signature enforcement but I'll see if there's a better solution

[hot zephyr]

I could try disabling driver enforcement, according to some website.

aight I'll wait

[misty gyro]

Yeah that's not usually recommended because you need to select it each time you boot

[hot zephyr]

o o f

[misty gyro]

That's an issue I ran into for my DS action replay lol

[hot zephyr]

DS action replay needs drivers???

[misty gyro]

When you use the code manager to add codes yes

[hot zephyr]

woah

[misty gyro]

What GPU and what other monitors do you have?

[hot zephyr]

Even if the display is off (but plugged in), I still get the hitching.

RTX 3060Ti

Acer ED276U, VG245, VP228H

[misty gyro]

Hmm, I know last gen had issues with mixed refresh rates but they fixed it for 30 series

[hot zephyr]

The first one is 1440p, and the first two are running at 75Hz.

I recall this one overclocks perfectly to 74.499999Hz but stops displaying any time it rounds up to 75Hz (hmmm suspicious)

[misty gyro]

Try setting all 3 to 60Hz and see if it's still an issue

[hot zephyr]

good idea

[misty gyro]

If it works, then you can set a custom resolution with 74Hz for all 3 if that one overclocks well

[hot zephyr]

nope, still hitching

I don't know if you can see it

[misty gyro]

Yeah I can see those slight stutters

[hot zephyr]

it's nauseating :/

Do you think this may run better on Linux?

[misty gyro]

Pretty much everything runs better on Linux

[hot zephyr]

I do VR development so I need to keep Windows around because I don't think there's support for the Facebook Reality Labs Rift S on Linux.

But I've been daily driving arch on my laptop and just got the SSD that I plan to finally put Linux on for my desktop. Just I will still have to boot into Windows every day for testing stuff.

It's so much nicer for getting stuff done, so I won't be on Windows a lot. But I'll still have the issue when I do boot into Windows.

I need to find a headset to replace this Facebook one with, but that's a discussion for #general-chat.

[misty gyro]

Try disabling any adaptive sync on all the monitors, and check the settings in the vp288h osd for things like overdrive mode and play with those

[hot zephyr]

nope everything is off

[misty gyro]

DDU drivers?

[hot zephyr]

I've DDU'd between now and a year ago when this was happening and I stopped using the monitor.

[misty gyro]

Try resetting nvidia control panel settings to defaults then

[hot zephyr]

I have also tried that.

[misty gyro]

Reset the OSD to defaults?

I need to hop off for a bit, sorry

[hot zephyr]

That's okay. Thanks for all the help so far!

I'll go to sleep now, maybe we can figure it out tomorrow.

[cerulean jackal]

My screen just froze. What do l do?

[sage trail]

restart the pc

[summer tiger]

Is the g24f a good pick for a monitor?

[cerulean jackal]

I can’t click on anything

[sage trail]

yes, so shut the pc down

[misty gyro]

Hold the power button until it shuts off

[cerulean jackal]

Ok

[sage trail]

or unplug it from the wall

duh

[cerulean jackal]

I just turned it off

Turn it back on?

[misty gyro]

Yes

[cerulean jackal]

Ok

It worked

[sage trail]

[fading wyvern]

[median scarab]

Whats with the emoji? Is that just the widely agreed best monitor, or is it sarcastic

[wary wave]

its the best value to performance 1440p high refresh monitor on the market rn

[median scarab]

That's actually exactly what I'm looking for right now. I'll wait till black Friday though. Thanks!

[misty gyro]

It's on sale right now for $280 (link in #tech-deals) and if you buy from newegg or best buy both of those retailers are offering automatic refunds equal to the difference if the price goes down after you buy.

[maiden wedge]

thinking of getting the m27q just wanna make sure if its the best i can get 1440p 27 inch below 350$

[misty gyro]

Yep, best for the budget

Should still be on sale for $280

[dawn silo]

Alienware AW2720HF vs Gigabyte M27Q

or https://www.amazon.com/dp/B096HVSTLG?tag=amazondn01-20 vs M27Q

[visual pilot]

That's 1080p and barely higher refresh rate tho

[dawn silo]

thought it was the best for gaming?

MSI is always used for esports events

[visual pilot]

Bruh

[visual pilot]

There's something called sponsorships

MSI provides panels in return for free advertisement

Simple exchange, not that MSI is the best choice, free is free for them.

[quartz sandal]

[dawn silo]

Okay I understand this. Was only wondering if there is big difference.

How about the first comparison

Alienware AW2720HF vs Gigabyte M27Q

https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-AW2720HF-Inch-Edgelight-Monitor/dp/B07YQHGC9L/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Alienware+AW2720HF&qid=1636931037&s=electronics&sr=1-2

other than not having 1440p is it bad

[quartz sandal]

1080p at 27" gonna look pixelated

[maiden wedge]

yea, 1440p is the sweet spot

[maiden wedge]

If you competitive gamer 1080p will look ok on 24"

[quartz sandal]

1080p is nice on 24" yeah, wouldn't recommend on 27" tho

[clear temple]

i want to buy a higher refresh rate moniter for my laptop

how do i make sure the hdmi ports support 165hz

[quartz sandal]

What laptop/gpu

[misty gyro]

At what resolution? 1080p, 1440p? Both have very different requirements

[summer tiger]

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/monitors/23-24-inch/90123-g24f?gclid=CjwKCAiAp8iMBhAqEiwAJb94z7tI3AJx3RqeW13GnKmyliWcBUrz-Lka1g1m2UeLriUru0x7k6bo4xoCnyUQAvD_BwE is this a good pick?

[visual pilot]

Price seems too high for me

Lemme check for other options

[summer tiger]

That is in Australian dollars

[visual pilot]

Yea g241 was 250aud but shipped from Amazon UK so not the best option

Another option
https://www.umart.com.au/Acer-23-8in-FHD-IPS-165Hz-FreeSync-Gaming-Monitor-VG242YP_56703G.html

[summer tiger]

Is there any 27 inch ones that are 144hz 1080p?

[visual pilot]

1080p at 27in looks worse than 1080p at 24in

[summer tiger]

Why?

I like bigger monitors

[visual pilot]

here's the thing, the image you see is made up from small pixels, 1080p means 1920x1080 pixels, if you have the same amount of pixels, but a larger space those pixels must fill, means there's less pixels per bit of monitor, leading to the pixels being more visible and therefore the image more pixelated when viewed at the same distance

but well

if you just want the monitor to be big

[summer tiger]

I won't be like 20cm away, more like 80cm because of my desk

[visual pilot]

I mean, that's about the usual distance

it wouldn't be retina either way anyways

[raw ingot]

^

[summer tiger]

what do you mean by that?

[clear temple]

1080p

[clear temple]

ideapad gaming 3 gtx 1650

[misty gyro]

You have hdmi 2.0 so you can do up to 1440p 144 Hz or 1080p 240 Hz

[clear temple]

does it support 165 at 1080p?

[misty gyro]

Yes, up to 240 Hz at 1080p

[clear temple]

ok

just found the moniter i was gonna buy hases hdmi 1.4

its 165hz

will it not support my laptop

[misty gyro]

It's backwards compatible, don't worry

[clear temple]

yea but i think this may limit the 165 moniter to 144

does hdmi 2.0 to display port 1.2 adaptars work?

[misty gyro]

Yeah good catch, hdmi 1.4 is limited to 144 Hz. An adapter should work, yeah. Check the reviews, though.

[quartz sandal]

If only a 1650 mobile could hit those framerates 👀

[misty gyro]

It could if you turn down the details

[quartz sandal]

Yeah depends on the game i suppose

Possibly in like esports

[clear temple]

i dont play graphicly intensive games anyways

for somereason mosr of mt favourite games are cpu intensive

those being minecraft and geometry dash

i get an average of 280 on gd

am not sure for minecraft bedrock since i couldnt remove the fps cap

[glacial magnet]

S2721DGF vs m27q?

any idea if the 40 dollar price gap is worth it

(for the s27)

for 1440p 27 inch gaming

[raw ingot]

get m27q instead

there's basically no reviews for the dell

it might actually be worse who knows

[wary wave]

its a good monitor, slightly worse but barely worse in comparison. not worth the extra $40 though

[raw ingot]

ah

but yeah

40 more ain't worth

[glacial magnet]

alright, thanks for letting me know

will do

🙏

[buoyant prism]

What if I can get the 2721DGF for the same price as m27q?

[raw ingot]

still rather get m27q

the dell has to be cheaper to make sense

[buoyant prism]

Any reasoning?

[raw ingot]

well

like wolfgang said

the dell is slightly worse

so might as well get the gigabyte if it's equal in price

[buoyant prism]

I am pretty sure dell has the better response times

[raw ingot]

eh not really

[wary wave]

response times under 5m is really just gimmick and even if you want to try and get it down to 1m, theres gonna be tons of overshoot or disfiguration of any sort

[raw ingot]

^

1ms is plain marketing for most cases

[wary wave]

both monitors can go to 1ms but its not advised because of overshoot or disfigurations

[raw ingot]

true 1ms monitors are so expensive

[buoyant prism]

Oh ok, I just have been doing comparisons in rtings.

[wary wave]

even the comparison of rtings, the dell is slightly worse

[buoyant prism]

Yeah, I thought the dell ranks a little lower since it does not have BFI, but do people use the BFI functionality?

[wary wave]

some do some dont

[buoyant prism]

Does BGR layout make any difference or would it be practically unoticable?

[wary wave]

makes a small noticeable difference but its nothing super crazy

[buoyant prism]

Well ok, guess I will buy the m27q. Thanks for the input.

[summer tiger]

[tropic cloud]

Hey guys speaking of the m27q I have a problem. I don't mean to deter anyone from buying it. I think I'm just an outlier, but I hadn't turned on my monitor in a week or two but noticed 2 dead pixels turning it on yesterday. I bought it in september so I'm out of the return window. Is there anything I can do or am I screwed?

[quartz sandal]

You can rma it anyway, definitely still within warranty window but you can try some dead pixel remover thingys, varying success tho

[visual pilot]

You could try some of the usual measures used to deal with stuck pixels in case that is the problem

[tropic cloud]

What's RMA?

[sick plume]

Return merchandise authorization

[visual pilot]

Return Merchandise Authorization, basically send it back for a replacement most of the time

[quartz sandal]

Send to manufacturer instead of retailer btw

[visual pilot]

A tool that can be useful for fixing stuck pixels
https://www.jscreenfix.com/

[quartz sandal]

Honestly i had no idea what it stood for

[visual pilot]

For RMA, go straight to like
http://rma.gigabyte.us/

[tropic cloud]

So send it back to Gigabyte?

I see

[sick plume]

Someone take this mans techie away

JK

[visual pilot]

Need to contact support first

[sick plume]

Its fine

[visual pilot]

And then once they tell you yea, ship it.

[sick plume]

Ive had to google it 5 times till date till i finally remember

[quartz sandal]

Knew what it meant cba to find out the abbreviation lol

[tropic cloud]

I think I'm going to try the pixel repair if that doesn't work I'll reach out to support and hopefully RMA

😤 🙏 thanks everyone

[visual pilot]

Yea, pixel repair thing is only really for stuck pixels, but maybe the pixels are just stuck black for some reason, anyways, best of luck.

[tropic cloud]

I'll give an update when its all resolved

[quartz sandal]

Can we get this pinned @graceful tree ?

[graceful tree]

uhh sure

i tried this before it didn't work for me sadly

my 14 year old second monitor has one pixel stuck on dark red

[quartz sandal]

Might not work for all but has known to work for some just handy link ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sick plume]

Maybe edit this to explain what it does to explain a lil since its been pinned

[graceful tree]

yeah i didn't expect it to fix mine lol

14 year old screen i should be happy only 1 pixel is dead

i left jscreen fix on overnight

[quartz sandal]

Yeah lol

[visual pilot]

yeye

[bleak rain]

Recommendations for an affordable 24" monitor (27 okay just not a lot of space available)? It won't be my primary, so doesn't have to be fancy. Just don't want to get stuck with something low quality either.

[quartz sandal]

For 2nd monitor just find the cheapest thing that's 1080p, VA or ips panel

[maiden wedge]

Samsung T35F

https://www.samsung.com/levant/monitors/flat/t35f-24-inch-ips-fhd-1080p-freesync-lf24t350fhmxzn/

https://www.newegg.ca/24-led-gaming-monitor-with-borderless-design-lf24t350fhnxza/p/1B4-001D-00KC8?Description=samsung 75hz&cm_re=samsung_75hz-_-1B4-001D-00KC8-_-Product
Here is the newegg link

it is cheaper at Best Buy for Black Friday though

[bleak rain]

Looked at that one already

Has a propietary power cable prone to malfunctioning so i was avoiding it.

I get discounts from work so it's fine if it's not on black Friday sales

[maiden wedge]

I have been using it with no failures

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012019?Item=N82E16824012019
Good for 240hz?

[buoyant prism]

Do you guys think the m27q will get cheaper than 260 usd or should I just buy now?

[wary wave]

this is the second time its been $260 so doubt itll get cheaper and even if it does, $260 is still a great price for it

[wary wave]

theres an alienware monitor thats slightly cheaper if you want to look at it but i havent look at comparisons to see which has the better screen.

[misty gyro]

If you want 1080p high refresh go for this https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-tuf-24-5-ips-fhd-280hz-fast-1ms-g-sync-gaming-monitor-with-displayhdr-400/6421623.p?skuId=6421623

[bleak rain]

SO s work place has had problems with it consistently , multiple monitors with the cable failing

[buoyant prism]

[bleak rain]

Too high price for what I'll be using it for

[glacial magnet]

So I recently got a new monitor and only have one hdmi port on my gpu, should I use hdmi on motherboard on secondary motherboard and hdmi on gpu for primary? Or should I use DP connection for primary and hdmi for secondary (or vice versa ofc)

M27q with rtx 3070 if that matters

[quartz sandal]

If you have an igpu, connecting secondary monitor to it is fine, or to gpu whichever

I'd go dp to m27q tho

[glacial magnet]

Alr so I’ll dp m27 to gpu and hdmi monitor to cpu?

Or to the gpu hdmi

@quartz sandal

Sorry for late response 🙏

[quartz sandal]

If you have an integrated gpu on your cpu sure, either works though not really noticeable diff unless you're running an animated wallpaper

[glacial magnet]

I’ll do gpu hdmi since i have a i7 10700f and I don’t think it has

[quartz sandal]

Nope if you plug that into the motherboard you'll get a lovely black screen lol

[glacial magnet]

oh lmao

[maiden wedge]

anyone got a good 240hz monitor 1080?

[misty gyro]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-tuf-24-5-ips-fhd-280hz-fast-1ms-g-sync-gaming-monitor-with-displayhdr-400/6421623.p?skuId=6421623

[maiden wedge]

https://www.amazon.ca/Non-Glare-Super-Narrow-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B07NQG1FFB/ref=sr_1_69?keywords=gaming+monitor+1440p&qid=1637289566&s=electronics&sr=1-69

can someone tell me the height of the screen for this monitor

in inches

i cant even understand the description

[misty gyro]

15.7 inches without the stand

[maiden wedge]

thanks g

u got my upmost dam respect cus thats the perfect height

but he didn't make how high it was

that dont matter

bookss

[misty gyro]

It's probably 16 including the bezel, and 20 with the stand also

[maiden wedge]

thats alr i got a reclinin gamin chair

and a chode of a desk space

[maiden wedge]

pfjkgaadffxvkdzffxxfgvcxxf
i got brain damage

[obtuse wasp]

Anyone got any suggestions for 24” 144hz 1080p for Black Friday sales?

[obtuse wasp]

Just bought two

[obtuse wasp]

But yes asking for a friend

[raw ingot]

msi g241/242

[hallow sorrel]

can adapters cause monitors to die ?

[quartz sandal]

No harm to monitor

[visual pilot]

I mean, depends

If you have a really crappy like eu->us adapter that doesn't convert correctly, things can go wrong

[quartz sandal]

Think they meant hdmi to dp etc

But yeah use native kettle leads

[maiden wedge]

anyone have any 240hz 1080p monitors?

[fading wyvern]

Yessir I do

[buoyant prism]

just unboxed my m27q and did not think 1440p would be such a step up from 1080p

[urban laurel]

True more pixel density

But haven't experienced it yet.. 1080p gang still

[wary wave]

become vtuber, tomie

stream and get more simps and be able to buy new pc and monitor

[quartz sandal]

Samsies

[sick plume]

I recently joined bigger 1080p high refresh gang and am veri hapi

[versed bridge]

Uh

[wary wave]

shame, doesnt seem as though bob simps for tomie

[versed bridge]

Well, that would be kinda weird

https://newegg-discord.fandom.com/wiki/Tomie

[trail mauve]

You know, I didn’t know what a vtuber was until I googled it. And all I’ve got to say is..

https://tenor.com/view/farnsworth-futurama-gif-5319799

[obtuse wasp]

So glad I picked up two

[alpine bramble]

any good 60hz monitor that i can mount to a wall mount + a cheap wall mount?

[quartz sandal]

Secondary monitor? Just whatever it's the size you want and make sure it's vesa compatible

[sick plume]

Or just get a tiny monitor and use duct tape

JK ofc

[quartz sandal]

Not even double sided tape just slap over bezels

[noble current]

Pato, what is your opinion of a 4k monitors? Do you recommend 28"or 32"?

[quartz sandal]

at 28" imo just get 1440p, at 32" 4k is more reasonable but 1440p is still good

[tawdry sparrow]

Hey, any of you guys know a good monitor for under $180?

[quartz sandal]

msi g241/g242

[tawdry sparrow]

whats the difference between the two?

[tawdry sparrow]

Also would the this be worse or better? https://www.newegg.com/p/24-236-821?item=24-236-821&Tpk=24-236-821&cm_sp=BlackFriday-_-eflyer-_-2021-_-1122-1127

[visual pilot]

@tawdry sparrow Try
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012041

And G242 is just a refresh of G241, no spec differences

[quartz sandal]

oh nice price on it

[visual pilot]

ya g24f went on sale for black friday

I might as well drop the deal in tech deals

[quartz sandal]

yeah

[tawdry sparrow]

ok thank you @visual pilot @quartz sandal

wait since the ASUS VG278Q is kinda good too, which would be better, The ASUS VG278Q or the G2F?

[quartz sandal]

nah 1080p at 27" will look meh

[visual pilot]

Uh, it's worse unless you really really want 27in for some reason and can't run 1440p

Keep in mind most people find that 24in monitors surprisingly big if they've never used one before

And bigger doesn't mean better

[tawdry sparrow]

Yeah that's true because in the asus had like a couple more features and it sounded better but it isnt

[visual pilot]

There's also advertising features vs having the features and not mentioning them because it's just generic

Like "ultra low blue light" is probably the equivalent of night mode in most other monitors

And "flicker free" is kind of expected

[tawdry sparrow]

so there basically saying things that comes with every single monitor

I was thinking to get two monitors for $180 each but i can only find 1080p monitors. Right i have two monitors but they are old. One is a 24" 740p while the other one is 33" 1080p 60hz. I feel like replace the small one but keeping the big one. I was also thinking if i should just get one monitor instead for under like $300

[visual pilot]

@tawdry sparrow what GPU do you have?

[tawdry sparrow]

I have a temporary one rn, its a 770

but waitng to get either a 3070 or a 3060 @visual pilot

[quartz sandal]

also why bother getting a high refresh secondary monitor bit of a waste

[tawdry sparrow]

1 word

gaming

lol

[quartz sandal]

yeah but youre not gaming on both monitors

[noble current]

Thanks Pato. I'm between the M27Q 1440P or M32Q. For 4k M32U Unless there some other options around.

[quartz sandal]

there are a few but they would be my personal choices

[visual pilot]

IF you get a 3070, a single M27q will also do the trick

[noble current]

I see. I know the G7 is highly recommended. But don't want curve

[quartz sandal]

yeah also overepriced

[noble current]

Yes. But it was on sale last week for 450

[quartz sandal]

ntb

[prime kayak]

best monitors at 27 or 32 inches? 1ms response time, high refresh rate. Idealy also 4k, HDR, and good coloring but I know cant have everything XD
Budge is I would like to find one within 1k XD

[quartz sandal]

For 27" I'd go 1440p personally, m27q

But m28u or m32u

For 4k

[maiden wedge]

also looking for some

would acer be a good brand

or idk

[visual pilot]

[real coral]

fyi the 1ms response time is meaningless, it is from 1 color of gray to another color of gray, they get to pick the colors
if you measure transition time on something not those specific colors it can be >10ms and can be beat by e.g. a 4ms dell that has better range

only reason dells aren't really on my shortlist is they're too expensive usually by virtue of being color correct

[visual pilot]

I mean, every brand has problems and everything varies

A C27RG5 advertises 4ms response time, actually has 34.5ms avg total response from rtings testing

Dell example, E2220H advertises 5ms response time, gets 22.4ms avg total response from rtings testing

But well, nothing actually gets 1ms total response time other than OLED being pretty close

[prime kayak]

@quartz sandal What do you think of the ROG Strix XG27AQM compared to what you suggested? Is the coloring worst or somthing?

[quartz sandal]

Haven't looked into it specifically

But probably overpriced

[visual pilot]

might be interesting but no good review yet

no hub or rtings

FI27q-x would be the usual alternative to 1440p240hz monitors

[prime kayak]

Do you notice a difference between 144 and 240 refresh rate?

[quartz sandal]

It can be noticed but not as big of jump from 60 to 144hz

[misty gyro]

There's only a small percentage of people that can really tell the difference reliably

[quartz sandal]

Usually ppl playing fps games :p

[prime kayak]

whats the difference between wqhd and qhd?

[maiden wedge]

what’s the diff between g27q and m27q

[visual pilot]

WQHD usually refers to the ultra wide 1440p monitors that are 3440x1440 pixels, 21:9, instead of the usual 2560x1440, 16:9 aspect ratio

[prime kayak]

@visual pilot Weird. XD Guess all these websites are mislabeling it to make it sound cooler haha

[visual pilot]

Marketing is marketing, whatever sounds cool, slap it in the name

[visual pilot]

They're a bit different panels, main difference is M27q slightly higher refresh rate, slightly better pixel response time, better color, more info could be found through here
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/gigabyte-g27q-vs-gigabyte-m27q/12904/19668

[maiden wedge]

ok thanks

[prime kayak]

@visual pilot
So out of these
M27Q, PX277 Prime, 27GL850, MAG274QRF-QD, G273QF, VG27AQ, AW2721D
Is there any you would obviously eliminate for any reason?
Im trying to research them but im running out of info I understand loll

[quartz sandal]

Monitor names suck

[prime kayak]

Agreed LOL

I eliminated bout twice that many but now im like..?????

[visual pilot]

AW2721D seems out of place being a 800$ 1440p240 monitor, other than that, it's mostly down to price and whatever is cheapest

I hate how MSI monitor naming went from okay to random assortment of letters

G241, good name, short and simple
Mag272cqr, longer, but relatively simple still.
Mag274qrd-qd, ???

[surreal quarry]

https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-tuf-gaming-vg27aq-90lm0500-b013b0-27/p/N82E16824236987?Description=1440p monitor&cm_re=1440p_monitor-_-24-236-987-_-Product&quicklink=true OR https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012015?Description=1440p monitor&cm_re=1440p_monitor-_-24-012-015-_-Product&quicklink=true

[misty gyro]

Those are both more expensive or equal in price to the M27Q

[surreal quarry]

Is that like the go to 1440p

[misty gyro]

Yes that's why we have the emote lol

Best one for around $300 range

[surreal quarry]

looks great, how's the image quality on it, I dont wanna sacrifice IQ for responce time

[misty gyro]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27q

[velvet dome]

I seem to be having some problems with my LG 27GN950-B 4k monitor in terms of screen flickering.
Only the 4K monitor would black out then put picture back in often during windows, rare to happen in game but it does happen at times.
Along with this after waking the monitor up from sleep it would just refuse to display and plug power out and in seems to fix it up.
I have a dual monitor set up using my old 1080p monitor as a 2nd side monitor and the 4K as the main, over HDMI and DP respectively, drivers and firmware up to date, DP is on 1.4 DSC and on Adaptive sync extended mode, did a clean install before. I did see before that NVIDIA is having this problem with drivers before but I hadn't seen it recently in threads.
What else am I missing here?

[misty gyro]

What GPU are you using?

[velvet dome]

3080ti FE

[misty gyro]

The mixed refresh rate issues were fixed in 30 series so that's not it

[velvet dome]

i would wanna say i feel like i lost in the monitor lottery despite there being a shortage on 4K, but i don't wanna jump to that yet

[misty gyro]

You could always try using DDU and reinstall the drivers

[velvet dome]

DDU?

[misty gyro]

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

You download that, restart into safe mode, run it while checking all the nvidia options, then let it reboot and install the latest driver again

This cleans up the driver so it's basically brand new. Any little thing that's wrong/corrupted in a driver can cause weird problems.

[maiden wedge]

good/bad? https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-27GN750-B-Compatibility-Adjustable/dp/B0841787BZ/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=240hz%2Bgaming%2Bmonitor&qid=1637485727&sr=8-3&th=1

[misty gyro]

Seems good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDLMaQn17NY

[real coral]

Is 1440p144 a sweet spot? I did some looking but everything seems a little more expensive than I remember it
I'm also not seeing anything ~4k >60fps

[sick plume]

Depends on what gpu u have

[misty gyro]

For the $300-400 price range yeah 1440p around 144-165Hz is the sweet spot

There's a few 4k 240Hz but they're insanely priced

[sick plume]

GPU also mattersfor both resolutions

No point in getting either on a 1060

[misty gyro]

True

[real coral]

Mostly just interested in it for office use honestly, but will get a card to match

there's nothing like 120Hz 4k?

[sick plume]

There are

Why go 4k120 for office work tho btw

[real coral]

The responsiveness helps
It's also a middleground between buying something super expensive and something not really what I'd like for gaming

[misty gyro]

4k120 isn't any kind of middle ground, it is the super expensive end.

The cheapest one worth getting is $1000

Although I guess M28U for $650 isn't bad, but not an ideal size at 28" for production

[velvet dome]

seems like the issue is gone for now, thanks dood

[maiden wedge]

monitor recommended for a i5-10400f 3060ti?

would m27q be fine

[wary wave]

ye if you want 1440p but you wont be doing good or high fps depending on the titles you play. would recommend sticking to 1080p if for now on a good monitor

[fading wyvern]

M32u is also around but is just as hard to get (and $800)

[maiden wedge]

jesus

[fading wyvern]

Ah not you man was talking about

[visual pilot]

M28u was in stock for a few days around last week

[maiden wedge]

oh

[noble current]

@fading wyvern I don't think the M32U is hard to get. Just expensive

[fading wyvern]

Oh, in that case go for it by far one of the best cheapest 4K panels

Expensive relatively compared to 1440p high refresh tho

[visual pilot]

4k144 prices are p similar to 1440p240 prices

[noble current]

the 32U is 4k 140hz Typo on my part

[visual pilot]

Typo there?

[fading wyvern]

It’s resolution is 4K and refresh rate is 144hz right?

[visual pilot]

Ye

It's 4k144, I don't think there's a 1440p varient of m32u

[fading wyvern]

Just triple checking 👀

I mean it’s the same pixel layout as it’s baby brother the m32q

Bgr instead of rgb

[noble current]

The M32Q is 1440P 165hz

[visual pilot]

Yea it's bgr

[fading wyvern]

It’s 165/170hz

[noble current]

Yes. I forget the numbers

[fading wyvern]

You’re good just double checking 👍

[visual pilot]

It's 170hz, HDMI bandwidth limit being why 165hz is listed too iirc

But that doesn't matter much

[fading wyvern]

Oh right mr1111 did you watch the Linus video about Xbox certified displays?

[maiden wedge]

ok so any reccs for a 3060ti

[fading wyvern]

M27q or a nice 1080p monitor like the msi g241/242

[visual pilot]

Xbox certified displays

Wat

[carmine bloom]

Yeah

[noble current]

M27Q IMO. But whatever Mr111 or Pato says

[carmine bloom]

Microsoft wanted to partner with 4k 144hz "hdr" displays and the like

For gaming

[visual pilot]

But I'd say M27q, 3060ti can run it okay, lower settings if necessary

[carmine bloom]

He didn't do a video on the Aorus FV43U but i still think it's the best option for next gen consoles.

[fading wyvern]

Linus was reviewing a bgr layout display on it, was having some weird input issues. Even though the input delay was supposedly way lower then the other displays. Was a bit worrying

[carmine bloom]

I mean he did a video on it
Just not for the next gen consoles

[visual pilot]

Xbox things not my thing, can't really tell ya anything

[fading wyvern]

More meant it as a weird bgr is messing with people even though we recommend it constantly

[visual pilot]

I mean, software sometimes doesn't play nice with bgr, but on windows, that's solved with cleartype for image quality things

[fading wyvern]

Yeah it’s true but it was a weird response time effect. Maybe it was just a fluke but idk

[visual pilot]

Also could've just manufacturing defect

[maiden wedge]

best option rn? or is a 1080p better

i mean the monitor is gonna be capped at 144hz but

idk

[visual pilot]

M27q best cheap option that fits rn

[maiden wedge]

💀

[visual pilot]

Why?

Do you not have DP?

[maiden wedge]

dp?

[visual pilot]

Displayport

Pretty sure all 3060ti's have a DP port

And therefore capable of 1440p170hz

[maiden wedge]

haven’t even gotten the pc yet

lmao

[visual pilot]

Then ?????????

Why would it be capped at 144hz?

[maiden wedge]

i meant 170hz

sorry

guess i should get m27q now because of the sale

ending in an hour

[maiden wedge]

Is the m27q better than the samsaung 1440p 144hz its 280$ same price rn

[misty gyro]

Do you mean the odyssey G7?

[misty gyro]

If you mean the odyssey G7 check this out. The 27" uses the same panel as the 32".
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/samsung-odyssey-g7-lc32g75t-vs-gigabyte-m27q/14315/19668?usage=3623&threshold=0.10

[maiden wedge]

Its not ips nvm

I wonder how the m27q will run with my 1660 in 8600

[quartz sandal]

Cpu is fine but your 1660 is gonna struggle

[maiden wedge]

how well would it run with 3060ti

and i5-10400f

[old arch]

3060 ti beats a 1080 a fair bit & I've seen how well that actually does on 1440P in most games.

[quartz sandal]

3060 ti handles 1440p well, you could probs leave it on the 8600 even unless you're building a new pc

[maiden wedge]

what 8600

[quartz sandal]

This one?

[maiden wedge]

oh you were talking to him

[quartz sandal]

Sorry thought same person lol

[maiden wedge]

lol

[old arch]

It happens, lol. Many of us have short names that are the same color.

[real coral]

anyone have any thoughts about the larger 2k monitors

like 30"

32" rather: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012036?Description=monitor&cm_re=monitor-_-24-012-036-_-Product&quicklink=true

[noble current]

M32Q?

[mighty dew]

Is this a good monitor? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B093MTSTKD/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_5NB73E3TYSENY4RM45QT

Don't have a new egg link sorry

[visual pilot]

Doesn't need to be Newegg, but go look at M27q @mighty dew

[maiden wedge]

lmao i was about to recommend it

[visual pilot]

M27q just too good value

[mighty dew]

I have a MSI monitor and honestly was very disappointed in the quality, washed out colors and text is all blurry

[visual pilot]

M27q is gigabyte...? And every model differs

And if the colors aren't great, could always calibrate it, and if text is blurry, try cleartype

[mighty dew]

Ahh gigibyte

Sorry getting all these mixed up I think I've looked at 100+

[visual pilot]

It's fine

A lot of monitor names suck

M27q is one of the few comprehendible names, not x27iidjsiiehdiwhk

[mighty dew]

Yeah like huh? Is this the same as this but nope its different lol

[visual pilot]

MSI does make mag241cqr and mag242cqr and some more

[maiden wedge]

thanks so imma stick to my 240hz monitor

[mighty dew]

Yeah I got a Optix G27C4Wi got from Walmart almost a year ago from Walmart

It does great with frame rates

But colors a d text quality is not there

[maiden wedge]

dunno how the m27q sale hasn’t dropped yet

[maiden wedge]

not V2736HQU

or some sht like that

[visual pilot]

I was poking fun at stuff like Acer XV272U Pbmiiprzx

The monitor names that are just illegible after the 27

[maiden wedge]

i know lol

i was joking with

[real coral]

ah nice m27q looks good

are freesync/gsync interchangeable yet?

[visual pilot]

99% of the time, yes

[misty gyro]

You can use nvidia with freesync but not AMD on gsync. (not the true gsync at least with the dedicated hardware)

[visual pilot]

If it's Freesync, it's g-sync compatible

[real coral]

alright explains why I was mostly seeing freesync

was confused because I read about that when it happened then forgot

[real coral]

Last thing I guess I wanna ask about is curved monitors
I was gifted a beat up early samsung wide-screen that was ok, actually liked gaming on it, but seemed like some games didn't play nice
Anyone have thoughts on the wide monitors?

Was a little weird for office work but got used to it. Extra size meant pixels were a little big.

[visual pilot]

Ultrawide isn't bad, but it just depends on the game for ultrawide support

Curves monitors don't really make sense unless ultrawide tbh

[old arch]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-i-understood-that-reference-look-back-gif-14556485

[visual pilot]

Mmm yes

I have absolutely no clue what the last bit is for

[old arch]

They had alphabet soup that day and those were the last letters they didn't eat.

[old arch]

Curved monitors seem weird but are sort of better for us. Imagine the actual game-sense if we had a 4K 32+" curved w/ 120-ish fov or however much was suitable.

[visual pilot]

Curved monitors just don't make sense on smaller monitors

[old arch]

agreed. No doubt not as easy to produce as well.

[velvet dome]

Nevermind, the LG 4K monitor display flickering problem came back after doin the clean drivers, maybe i do have a bad monitor

[velvet dome]

reply to the start of it

[misty gyro]

My money's on it being intentional so people buy crappy monitors expecting it to be the good one, but it's really one letter off in the alphabet soup and therefore a garbage panel.

[real coral]

yea that's what I was originally call it as but didn't know if, being a corporate discord, people'd get banned for real talk

[misty gyro]

Only a "corporate discord" in that the admins are Newegg staff. Mods are all volunteers and we know when to call the BS out. Even if it's on Newegg itself, I've complained a few times.

[rancid cedar]

is this a decent display?

https://www.newegg.com/black-acer-ei272ur-pbmiiipx-um-he2aa-p01-27/p/N82E16824011355?Item=N82E16824011355

[fading wyvern]

https://youtu.be/CEqQi6Ljq8g a great video.

[maiden wedge]

Should I get the Acer Predator XB3 - 27" Monitor Full HD 1920x1080 240Hz IPS 16:9 1ms 400Nit HDMI or the ASUS - TUF 27” IPS FHD 165Hz 1ms G-SYNC Compatible Gaming Monitor with Height Adjustable (DisplayPort,HDMI)

[quartz sandal]

27" at 1080p is gonna look a bit pixely , would recommend 1440p or 24"

[maiden wedge]

I don’t play that many games just like gta and rocket league

[quartz sandal]

What i said applies to any use case basically

[maiden wedge]

So I need to be looking for 2560x1440

[quartz sandal]

That or 24" is what I'd advise, what gpu you have?

[maiden wedge]

3060

Its i just found a pretty good deal on that acer predator deal one and wondered if it would be fine

[quartz sandal]

Yeah that will be fine with eithee of these options then

[maiden wedge]

So the acer predator one will effect it

I don’t care if it effects the color but if it makes me like look laggy or blurry I don’t want it

[quartz sandal]

It will look pixely

[maiden wedge]

Alright thank you for the help I don’t know much about monitors so you helped

I mean will it be bad though or just a little bad because if it’s a little bad Idc

Acer Predator XB3 - 27" Display WQHD 2560x1440 IPS 165Hz 16:9 1ms 400Nit

I found this one as well if maybe this is better

[grim warren]

whats a good 1080 monitor for under 350 aud

ok

329 aud

nice

yes

waht about 144 vs 240

[carmine bloom]

ayyye its rommy

[maiden wedge]

can 3060ti handle m27q

[visual pilot]

yes

[carmine bloom]

woooowww

[queen kettle]

What about monitor IPS 24", 27" BenQ, Asus ProArt, DELL, HP, LG, Viewsonic

[fading wyvern]

[raw ingot]

what is your question?

we don't understand

[fading wyvern]

What about most monitor brands

[burnt sail]

Hello,I need help choosing a monitor,my budget is 300 i can go over if neededand would like gsync if possible,1080p

[raw ingot]

msi g241/242

but for that budget, gigabyte m27q is possible

if you want 1440p

[burnt sail]

I wish,but my graphics card wouldn't handle it

But thanks for the recommendation

[sick plume]

You can run a 1440p monitor at 1080p btw

And switch to 1440p when gpu upgrade

[maiden wedge]

Best AW2521HF color settings for valorant or just general

?

[old arch]

Any quirks, like how's it look? shopping 1440p and 1080p does open up tons more choices. Some of us just don't have a PC quite good enough for 1440p yet.

[sick plume]

It looks like 1080p

[old arch]

haha, ok so basically just downscaling I suppose. Jeez there's a lot of monitors nowadays.

[maiden wedge]

forza motorsport 6

[maiden wedge]

can 5600g handle m27q?

[sick plume]

On desktop at 1440p?

Sure

Gaming?

Nope

[gray geyser]

any good monitors for a 3070ti?

[wary wave]

[gray geyser]

preferibly curved and 4k?

ahh ok

[wary wave]

nvm then

m27q is 1440p 170hz

non curved

[gray geyser]

well it doesnt have to be curved

thx ❤️

[wary wave]

id recommend 1440p but if you want a 4k monitor gigibyte has one called the m28u but its pricey

[gray geyser]

i meant 1400p

1440*

[wary wave]

ye then id recommend m27q. on sale rn at $280

[gray stone]

is there a way i can upgrade my Acer h236hl ?

[swift niche]

ye or na for a friend

https://www.ebuyer.com/913888-aoc-24g2u-bk-24-144hz-full-hd-1ms-ips-gaming-monitor-24g2u-bk

[quartz sandal]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/pXMTwP/msi-optix-g241-238-1920x1080-144-hz-monitor-optix-g241 I'd get this

[mighty dew]

Bro going from a curved display to a flat main display is messing with me brain. It looks like a reverse curve on the flat panel

[old arch]

Bummer huh, that's because curved displays actually are better, or more "natural"

[mighty dew]

Yeah lol I'll get used to it. I rocked a flat screen and Curved before just swapped places

[harsh anchor]

Could someone tell me what this is used for ? It came with the m27q

[visual pilot]

@harsh anchor USB type B, most commonly used as a printer cable

[harsh anchor]

Wonder why it came with my gigabyte m27q monitor then it's not a printer 🤔

[sage trail]

@harsh anchor its 3.0 type B

used to connect the built-in USB 3.0 hub to the computer

[carmine bloom]

You have a KVM monitor. you can plug your mouse and keyboard into it your monitor and then that from your monitor to your PC to use one less USB

[mighty dew]

what really?

bro i got too many cables lol

[maiden wedge]

ok

[hallow sorrel]

how much bandwith does a gpu need to run 165hz?

[dull solar]

hello any one can help me i want second monitor for watching videos and browsing and any thing while i play in my gaming monitor

what i should go for

hd or 2k and what FPS and RT

i need 24inch

[quartz sandal]

Just get a 60hz 1080p monitor

[dull solar]

no need for 2k?

so any 60hz full HD will be suitable ?

[quartz sandal]

Not at 24"

1080p yeah using hd full hd etc is confusing

[dull solar]

i wanted 24 so it be same as my main screen

or it batter to go with 27 ?

[quartz sandal]

Nah 1080p at 27" is meh

[dull solar]

ok

so i search for 24inch 60hz 1080p \

is there any one u suggest

[quartz sandal]

You in the us?

[dull solar]

no

[quartz sandal]

Where?

[dull solar]

how about response time

[dull solar]

GCC

bahrain

[quartz sandal]

Not something to worry about for a secondary monitor

[quartz sandal]

Yeah idk what that area is like, preferably look for ips or va panels

[dull solar]

near dubai

[hallow sorrel]

pato how much bandwith does a gpu need to produce for a 165hz display ?

[dull solar]

ok

[quartz sandal]

For 1080p about 10.2 Gbps

[hallow sorrel]

and how much does a 750 ti produce?

i couldn't find it myself

idk what to look for

[quartz sandal]

10.2Gbps max on hdmi 1.4 so that

[teal scarab]

86.4 GB/s

[quartz sandal]

[hallow sorrel]

and do you think i can squeez 165hz with a dvi to dp adapter?

[teal scarab]

Hey man I would send you a screen shot of what I’m looking at if I could but this server doesn’t allow pictures

[quartz sandal]

Nah, you don't have a hdmi port? Must be on only some 750 tis then

[sick plume]

144hz max

Since ur card has display port 1.2

[quartz sandal]

It does, you just need to talk for a few mins first, please feel free to dm me the picture tho

[hallow sorrel]

i do have hdmi

but i was wondering

[sick plume]

Its gonna be even less on hdmi

1080p144 is what the hard limit for ur card is

[quartz sandal]

I saw hdmi 1.4 but no dp

[sick plume]

750 cant have hdmi 1.4

Wait

It can

Got confuse

[hallow sorrel]

yeah i have it rn

[sick plume]

Hdmi 1.4 does 1080p120 iirc tho

So either way

[hallow sorrel]

it can do 144hz too

[sick plume]

Nope

[hallow sorrel]

i have it rn

[sick plume]

Not according to the official specs sheet

[hallow sorrel]

well how the f do i have 144hz then?

i can send you a screenshot if you want

[sick plume]

1.4 peaks at aroung 9 gigabit

[sick plume]

I mean I see a 144hz option on my display that has hdmi 1.4 too

Dont mean its showing me 144frames

Just the 120

You wont see the difference between 120hz and 144hz on that monitor

And if you do its gonna be placebo

[hallow sorrel]

...

[visual pilot]

My HDMI 1.4 panel actually does 144hz over HDMI, there's a way they can do that with compression iirc

[sick plume]

Interesting

Any reading material about this?

[visual pilot]

I'll try in a bit

[dull solar]

is it batter to buy TV than monitor for only browsing and watching movies and youtube

[quartz sandal]

If you're using it as a monitor usually no, tvs are designed to be viewed from a way larger distance

[dull solar]

ok

already it hard to find 24 inch tv now ><

i trying to find cheap monitor but expansive and a lot for shipping

[misty gyro]

Display stream compression

[misty gyro]

https://www.cablematters.com/blog/DisplayPort/what-is-display-stream-compression#:~:text=Display Stream Compression%2C often abbreviated,and games consoles%2C and displays

[sick plume]

Isnt that only for dp1.4 and hdmi 2.1?

[misty gyro]

No it's just more commonly used on there

They back ported it using drivers

[sick plume]

Oh i see

[celest lichen]

anyone know if there is any sort of a fix for this monitor issue, I am assuming not but if anyone knows please lemme know. For the last few months the bottom portion of my monitor has begun dying, currently it takes up slightly more than the task bar. However it behaves very weird, sometimes its just a straight up black bar covering that portion of my screen but sometimes it is the actual screen just slightly delayed than the rest of my monitor very weird. Another interesting piece of information is that a few months ago I factory reset my pc and that seemed to have completely fix the problem for a week or 2 and then it came back. Anyone know if this might be a problem with my display itself, or maybe a cable or something else?

[mystic cobalt]

hey guys, anybody know of any cheap 19/20 inch monitors I can use with decent quality? Looking for IPS and 1080p res, if possible

I need to replace one of my monitors

[raw ingot]

could be cable or gpu

[celest lichen]

u know any good way to find out?

[raw ingot]

well

try wiggling the cable around

or try another cable

[clear temple]

can i use my phone as a display

for my pc

[quartz sandal]

Uhh technically as a 2nd display ye

[wild coral]

Shaqmove#3291 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Shaqmove#3291 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[mighty dew]

Brand new monitor

[fading wyvern]

looks like it might not be fully plugged in

that or it took a bad fall on the way to you

[mighty dew]

Well I know the monitor is fine, I have had it for a few days (3) but it does this when I start my personal PC just on the bios loading and then when I switch it to my work PC it did this the entire time.

[fading wyvern]

in that case its probably just a bad wire hdmi/dp

[mighty dew]

Ok yeah took three resteats and a power cycle ok the monitor

I love this LG monitor but seems it has too many issues.

[quartz sandal]

Try a different cable first before blaming the monitor imo

[mighty dew]

Well the monitor has the issue where the menu buttons just go dead

[tawdry sparrow]

im back but i been thinking

i probally could get a monitor that is around 200-270

is there any that are like either 2k or 4k with good hz?

[quartz sandal]

M27q is 280$ rn

[tawdry sparrow]

is there anything that close as good as that but less in price?

[fading wyvern]

No

[maiden wedge]

msi optix g273 vs m27q for a 3060ti?

[fading wyvern]

1080p v 1440p for about $100 more. Depends on you tbh

[errant edge]

depends on what games you play, what cpu you have, what fps you want

if youre playing comp or not

[maiden wedge]

mc, val, league, i5-10400f, 500+ ig

[errant edge]

1440p would be more than fine then

if youre fine with the extra money id go m27q

[old arch]

Anyone actually try a 27" 1080P display for a while & not hate it? Anything should be an upgrade to my old 60 hz 24" acer.

[novel merlin]

I have two 23.4 inch 1080p displays. I can't imagine going to 27" at this resolution

[wary wave]

1080p on a 27" isnt that bad however 1440p does look nicer on a 27" in comparison

[old arch]

For mostly fast paced games (FPS), I feel like the action would totally distract from the "bigger" pixels. 1440P might take a bit too much GPU power for now.

[novel merlin]

I want a 4k display so I can do 4k content consumption but play games in 1080p with better scaling

1440p is imperfect scaling from 1080p and that bugs me more than I'd like to admit

also 4k dlss using 1080p rendering may be actually kinda nice

[old arch]

That I get. lots of 4k content now. It's setting games to 1080P that would be weird. Downscaling? Should stay looking good enough huh

[novel merlin]

I'mma have this gpu until the second half of 2023 when gpus meet demand :/

Yeah

but 1440p improperly downscales 4k and upscales 1080p

well

not imporperly more imperfectly

a 4x pixel conversion always nice

and for older games I can game at 4k

[old arch]

Oh a standard 2060? My 1080 should be close to that. Time for the quad core to go though. ---1440P was aka 2K? I'm surprised the down or upscaling is so finicky, but ohwell

[novel merlin]

do you have 1440p?

[old arch]

no

[novel merlin]

oh

1440p is just weird to upscale 1080p with

it's like upscaling 720p on 1080p

it's just so weird

[novel merlin]

At least cpu prices are not that bad. Your gpu should be fine for another generation

we just gotta hold out until then

[old arch]

I see. Yeah, upscaling on older tv's didnt help much, like DVD players too. Old games that only do a legit 1080P, you'd just use the fancy DLSS or somethin? Imagine Crysis at 4k though, lmao.

[novel merlin]

yeah because imagine dlss 2.0

for like 1080p to 4k

that way you're getting better than 1080p which would've already scaled perfectly (just 4 pixels instead of 1) on a 4k display

[old arch]

Crysis was a beast. The whole "can your pc run crysis" deal is hilarious.

Don't really get dlss but I've seen some comparisons to other scaling deals. Seems to help for certain older games a lot also.

[novel merlin]

yeah but dlss is only in supported games

basically is uses the AI cores in rtx cards to guess what's in an image

and redraw it with a lower beginning render

you ever see those AI upscaled photos? it's kinda like that

[old arch]

Oh. yep. Well 1440P takes more gpu, but sure are many of those displayers. I can't decide haha.

[misty gyro]

Crysis got its reputation from literally killing PCs

They've always been the game that's forward looking for recommended specs

[sick plume]

Its cyberpunk and msfs 2020 now

[noble current]

Pato, Mr111 or anyone else. What other 1440P 144hz monitor is good besides the M27Q?

[sage trail]

what other features do you need in a monitor other than 1440p and 144hz?

unless you just wanted to pay more for some other 1440p high refresh rate monitor for no reason

[coral path]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824716004?Item=N82E16824716004

how good is this?

[noble current]

That has good quality, good color and not too RGB.

[sage trail]

good for what?

dont just post a link to a thousand dollar monitor and have the audacity to ask "iS tHiS gOoD???"

[sage trail]

M27Q is a good quality monitor and has an IPS panel, so it has pretty good color reproduction out of the box

also wdym "too RGB"

homie the whole screen is RGB

[visual pilot]

technically bgr :)

[visual pilot]

I mean, a lot of them...?

They're just more expensive

[noble current]

Mean RGB outside of the monitor. 😂

[sage trail]

i kinda figured that lol. that stuff can be turned off pretty easily

[noble current]

LG27GP83B, LG27GP850, MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD. That what Tim from hardware unboxed also recommend.

[fading wyvern]

I'd happily recommend any of those choices, not a huge fan of LG's whole black red thing tho.

[noble current]

@fading wyvern If you had to buy one which would you buy?

[sage trail]

i would buy the cheapest one

because the panels are honestly all made by the same company so who cares about the plastic holding it up

[fading wyvern]

Based off the color thing i'd buy the MSI with the https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B093MTSTKD?tag=rtings-mn-p-amazon-20&ie=UTF8 in second

[fading wyvern]

both the 165hz models are about the same price

[sage trail]

376 for 1440p 165hz?

[fading wyvern]

yup not a great value compared to the m27q

[sage trail]

yeah, thats honestly the crux of the issue

literally 100 dollars more

for

better HDR

[fading wyvern]

But its basically the lowest price of a lg panel in a monitor

*a 1440p newer monitor

[sage trail]

then dont buy an lg panel i suppose

[noble current]

I understand. I just had to rethink my option. I was going to get a 32" 4k
But between my PC and TV there no space.

[sage trail]

what kind of TV is it?

[noble current]

Is a Old TV. Is not flat screen. I will be getting a flat TV sometime next year.

[sage trail]

then get rid of it

then boom you have space

[noble current]

After paying the some debt first. I do want use youtube or netflix on my bed

[sage trail]

when you buy the 32" 4k monitor, get rid of the TV then

then you will have space

because the TV will no longer be occupying that space

[fading wyvern]

The double the price thing for 4k is the only issue with tht

luckily next year or the year after prices will prob have dropped like $100

[sage trail]

then get 4k 60

if you want/need a slightly larger screen, you can get 32" 1440p monitors

[noble current]

True. I may get a 42 or 50" TV 4k. and enjoy life

[fading wyvern]

true like $80 more for 4k 60

[noble current]

M32U is the one I was looking at. I have a 3080Ti and a 10900K for the PC I brought the parts earlier this year. I just need the monitor and a cooler

[fading wyvern]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-clc-360-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835288014 this aio is still on sale 👀

[noble current]

My case is a corsair C70. Be reusing it and only support up to 280IAO.

[fading wyvern]

rip

[wise sonnet]

So wife and I have the ASUS PG279Q, which was close to flagship when we got them 5 years ago. The question is that we just bought 2 ASUS TUF VG27AQL1A's as secondary monitors last week. My thought process now is if it would be better for us to do 2x PG279Q and 2x VG27AQL1A or keep them 1 and 1. The VG27AQL1A is better in almost every way except it's G-Sync Compatible instead of Native. I use mine for FPS and video editing, why wife will be using it with her new build with lighter gaming and some photo and video editing. Any thoughts?

[fading wyvern]

Even though its 5 years old it seems pretty similar to the TUF, honestly just keep it 1 and 1 maybe just make the newer one your main display on both systems. Unless the color profiles are different splitting them up sounds fine to me.

[wise sonnet]

Color spaces are definitely different (99% sRGB vs 130% sRGB/96% DCI-P3) and response time is 1ms vs 4ms.

[sage trail]

you really wont notice any of it

im curious why you chose to get high refresh rate displays for secondary monitors

you could have just stuck with the same monitors you bought, and gotten some cheap 1440p 60hz panels

imo for the sake of consistency, and considering they are practically the same monitor anyway, i would pair like monitors together

[fading wyvern]

In tht case id personally hog both the new ones to myself

[sage trail]

also tru lol

[fading wyvern]

ah also the response times arent actually that different looks like around 4ms on both at the highest refresh rate

[sage trail]

from a usability perspective

they are the same monitor

the biggest brain move here would be to return the new monitors and get cheaper ones

if you absolutley need accurate colors for your work, then get a real display designed to do such a thing instead of going off the marketing bs that is "percentage of X color space covered"

[wise sonnet]

Just my opinion to buy the best of what you can that makes sense. The VG27AQL1A has a lot of great specs and is top of the TUF line before you get to STRIX. We don't upgrade often and since it's getting paired with a 3080Ti, it'll be good future proofing.

[sage trail]

yeah but

they secondary displays

you dont game on a secondary display, right?

its for discord n stuff

webpages

[wise sonnet]

Yes but I will be using it for editing as well. More of a companion than a secondary. I get it but I always try to get the best that I can and hope it lasts a little longer.

And I don't need color accuracy to a point, but color space in relativity to the other monitor is definitely a big deal if ones displaying it slightly different than the other.

[fading wyvern]

That slight color temperature or just difference in color can drive people pretty nuts.

I’ve been trying to color match my very very badly tuned TN panel to a LG IPS panel for a little while

[sage trail]

yeah, but you can get good 60hz IPS panels for cheap

why you bothered with 165hz is what doesnt make sense

[fading wyvern]

It’s nice to have nice things. 👀

[flint stirrup]

Hey, as much as would like to upgrade to something that can display 4K, they are prone to breaking and burn-in.

Would it be practical to rollback to a 4:3 CRT with Component until I can get one?

I know that's practically useless for consoles after the Wii, but I wasn't sure.

[fading wyvern]

Burn in virtually doesn’t happen in VA or IPS panels which are both of the most used panel type for monitors… OLED on the other hand is much much much more likely to have it happen. Feel free to use whatever though. Not sure about practicality in a crt though

Generally if the monitor doesn’t break within the first week of use it’s much less likely to break after years of use… the first week of which is also within the return window of most retailers

[flint stirrup]

Are IPS screens mainly used for monitors?

I guess I can try to find a 1440p or 4K screen.

[fading wyvern]

IPS is usually recommended… are you using a gt 1030?

[flint stirrup]

Yes.

[fading wyvern]

You planning on a upgrade anytime soon?

[flint stirrup]

Not the PC.

I just did a year ago.

I only want to upgrade the primary screen if possible and kb/mouse to bt.

[fading wyvern]

Ah stick with 1080p. Anything higher res will massively hurt performance

[flint stirrup]

I'll stick with my current screen.

[fading wyvern]

Usually the gt 1030 is just used as a display out

:x

[flint stirrup]

I know my current screen is Samsung and outputs 1080p, but I can't find the model name.

[fading wyvern]

Should be more then enough until your next upgrade

[flint stirrup]

seems like a 70 series

okay won't bother with the screen

just the bt kb/mouse