old-monitors-and-tv

[slow tide]

right...certainly know that feeling of having selective attention to detail. I don't mind to learn more, but my greatest sin is that of a Sloth. Haha...

Leaning SAMSUNG Odyssey G7 C27G75T 27. Again, wasn't thinking I'd be going $600 on a monitor, but alas, I'm now jittery from having a bust of a purchase. don't want to keep swapping 'budget monitors now in hopes I don't get a glaring ordeal. never thought of $200 as budget before now, haha

[visual pilot]

going straight to 1440p240 eh

[slow tide]

@fading wyvern thanks for the link.

[visual pilot]

I mean, I still believe that a M27q for ~300$ is still the best price-to-performance option, but yea
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012018

RTings did also review the M27q

The gaming alternative to the budget 1440p monitor section, but also full separate review.

[slow tide]

Heck, I admit I'm not sure what I'm doing. Just, impulsive on avoiding a product issue in exchange for paying more. Granted paying more isn't a safe concept. But the answer is somewhere in the middle of the phrase you get what you pay for.

[visual pilot]

You'll still get a few manufacturing defects across the board no matter the monitor, but modern monitors tend to be pretty decent all around

[fading wyvern]

the m27q is the most safe budget friendly option, a few people on this server had have to qc them but... its a great screen

[visual pilot]

I'm still of the belief it's just law of big numbers

[slow tide]

qc them?(quality check?) As in modify it abit? Apologies I'm unfamiliar with the terminology.

[visual pilot]

I think they mean some people had some monitors with QC (Quality control) issues

[fading wyvern]

the only reason why i suggest LG is the excellent quality control they have going

[visual pilot]

bit harder to quantify qc but M27q is great all around from testing

[slow tide]

Thanks for the suggestions.

revisiting one of my previous questions, if I may,

2560 x 1440 vs 1920 x 1080

Does running it at higher resolution come wit ha trade off on taxing the PC or only if the rig can't handle that extra bit?

[fading wyvern]

it'll tax your pc (gpu) more, are you planning on gaming? If you are what kind of gpu are you currently using?

[visual pilot]

It's going to be easier if you could tell us what CPU and GPU you're planning to use

[slow tide]

Processor
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor

Video Card
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

[visual pilot]

2060 wouldn't have too much fun with anything intensive above 1080p

[slow tide]

gotcha, so keep resolution to 1080 would be a better plan of action then?

[visual pilot]

It's more that 1080p makes a lot more sense if you're using a 2060, not about 1080p vs 1440p in general.

1440p is always nice IF you can run it well.

[slow tide]

I think I follow. also, I don't really desire that extra resolution. Least I've been content with where its been.

[visual pilot]

There's lots of nice things that's nice to have but cost is a limitation :(

[slow tide]

Just assumed my settings may default to monitor, so guess I'll have to tinker each time with a monitor that wishes to have a higher res option.

[visual pilot]

I mean

[visual pilot]

keep in mind you can't just set a 1440p monitor to 1080p, you can't magically make 3686400 pixels into 2073600 pixels

it'll look funky

(Same thing as if you ran 720p on a 1080p monitor, it looks funky, something that would normally take up 1 pixel could now be taking up 4 pixels and look wildly out of proportion, that kind of thing)

[slow tide]

oh! See, thats kinda where I was going with that. At least, I wasn't truly sure thats what was going to occur.

[fading wyvern]

Eh you can always just 'future proof' and grab a m27q and set in game settings to 1080p when you need to. Sure it'll look funky but it might save you a future purchase. Sorry if this is just adding extra worries

[visual pilot]

tech like dlss is nice for helping you get better performance on higher resolutions and such but anyways

[slow tide]

By funky, what pray tell is an example? Or is it hard show?

Cause, I've played several of my games on lower res, but usually go smaller window mode.

I don't go full screen with lower then 1080 for example.

[fading wyvern]

Well it would be a bit blurry if it was full screen. Let me try to show it here in a sec

[visual pilot]

imagine game looking something like

yaknow

[fading wyvern]

it wouldnt be that bad lol

[visual pilot]

That would be quite exaggerated, but you get the point

More pixelated

[visual pilot]

(Assuming you have 1080p monitor), Play some game that allows you to change resolution options, and then change to 720p, and go to full screen, and that'll emulate what gaming at 1080p on a 1440p monitor might look like

[fading wyvern]

1440

1080

[visual pilot]

anyways, my TL;DR
With current PC config -> 1080p144hz makes most sense
(G241/G242 kinda monitor)
With GPU upgrade (Above say 3060) -> 1440p144hz makes most sense
(M27q kinda monitor)

[slow tide]

hmm, so with the GIGABYTE M27Q 27" --- running full screen at 1080would look...off? As images above show....is that due to more pixels overall on the monitor so its trying to space* it out more?

But, to clarify, you said with my GPU, I wouldn't have fun* with 1440, --- is the trade off for looks vs taxing PC worth considering here?

[visual pilot]

imagine 1080p at 100fps vs 1440p at 60fps kinda thing
(DO NOT TAKE THAT RATIO AND APPLY IT, RANDOM EXAMPLE NUMBERS)

[slow tide]

ahh, ok, so may as well down grade to a 1080 monitor if my GPU can't run 1440 comfortably basically?

[fading wyvern]

basically

[visual pilot]

(If you're not planning on a GPU upgrade any time soon, and currently GPUs are kinda hard to get for a good price)

[slow tide]

Yeah, not planning to upgrade soon on that front.

[fading wyvern]

Also to clarify those images are taken off of a 27inch 1440p panel. The 1080p picture appears a bit blurry because its less PPI (pixels per inch)

and soem other stuff

[visual pilot]

but also downscaling weird

And well, tech is always advancing at some pace

Bit more than a year ago, I would've told you to grab a mag271cqr for around 350$, now the M27q is better than that monitor in most ways and just costs ~300$

[slow tide]

To summarize, cause I think Draven was replying to this but; For my current set up, I should avoid GIGABYTE M27Q 27 at 1440 monitor if I can't comfortably run that res.

so I'd go for a monitor similar to it that is capped at 1080?

[visual pilot]

Well, the singular factor to focus on is 1440p

1440p at 24in, 27in, 32in, 34in, etc, whatever model, all will give the 2060 some trouble

[fading wyvern]

*rendering and gaming

just basic computer tasks its fine

[slow tide]

right, if I didn't imply it, my 2060 sounds to be 'eh-kay' but yeah, I game alot. haha

[fading wyvern]

yeah youll have a much better time on a 1080p monitor then

[visual pilot]

That should be enough info for now, but keep in mind, our advice only stands for so long, advancements in tech can and will change things

@slow tide For example, some things to look out for in the future is when dlss/fsr/equivalent become more widely adopted (You could look around about those two on Google if you want, GamersNexus has some good videos on em, but it's not that important at the moment).

And then I just have no idea what direction the display industry is moving towards

[slow tide]

Thats non-sense, I don't want to fear the future of tech. Don't give me nightmare fuel! lol >_<

[visual pilot]

DLSS/FSR are more enabing, they use upscaling so you render at 1080p, and the game will look like 1440p, to put simply

So it's easier for the GPU, but still looks relatively nice

anyways, prob too much info, I say it's time to sleep on it

[slow tide]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012016?Description=gigabyte monitor 1080&cm_re=gigabyte_monitor 1080-_-24-012-016-_-Product&quicklink=true

vs

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012014?Description=gigabyte monitor 1080&cm_re=gigabyte_monitor 1080-_-24-012-014-_-Product&quicklink=true

Splitting hairs or can't really go wrong ?

it's a bit of a hard answer I suppose...

[visual pilot]

The price on those two are making me say no

[visual pilot]

I say grab this for 1080p144
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475047

(Another thing about computers and such, )

[fading wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/zotac-3080-gif-18549684

[visual pilot]

We don't really care about brand loyalty, Gigabyte just happened to make the M27q that was a great monitor, doesn't mean all Gigabyte panels are great.

[slow tide]

Well, the price doesn't concern me, but you're implying what MSI offers vs the others I linked, is essentially the same, so I'm avoiding wasting* money for little gain?

[visual pilot]

(also third party seller wack) I'm just saying G241 is a good panel for that price, the other panel is kinda the same thing but like 50% more expensive

[slow tide]

I can follow what you mean. Just cause a Brand knocks a certain monitor out of the park doesn't mean they are all to that execution.

[visual pilot]

mhm

[fading wyvern]

Too clarify my position on LG a bit, they manufacture their own panels and supply plenty of other monitor brands with panels, specifically IPS and OLED displays. In my consumer experience throughout my family (yes it's sorta a brand loyalty thing i guess?) I've never experienced any major issues in any of there products and have had a great time with them. Despite that I'd still say the m27q is the best bang for the buck monitor you can buy today.

[visual pilot]

Price also plays a good part into everything

[slow tide]

save a bit now, get a better GPU down the road, spend more on better accessory then. xD

[visual pilot]

Different people have different experiences

[visual pilot]

Did I hear time for audiophile gear & custom keyboard

heh

[fading wyvern]

uh oh

[visual pilot]

tbf pc38x is on a good sale atm :p

there's always more hobbies and more fun things

[slow tide]

Well I have MR1111's suggestion, what would be the 1080 equivalent on LG?

[fading wyvern]

cough buy a logitech superlight x

oh no go for the msi its the go to

[visual pilot]

cough so much money cough

[slow tide]

haha

[fading wyvern]

its nice tho

[visual pilot]

I mean, I think model d wireless is coming out real soon, might compete with gpw superlight

[fading wyvern]

if it has holes in it it cant even begin to compare :c

[visual pilot]

since mow was more ftip/claw, mdw is going to be a bit more palm, therefore compete more with gpw's good for everything grip

[visual pilot]

I have mow and og gpw, both are good, expect the damn switches in the og gpw doubleclicks very badly

honeycomb surprisingly good for mice, anyways

[slow tide]

Yeah, its not that i'm opposed to paying more, but I'm also certainly not likely to appreciate the difference if I'm rather ignorant of what extra quirks or 'guarantees' I'm getting from it.

Granted, I shouldn't diss ASUS, but I'm a tad jaded now from 1 bad purchase. Not fair, but such is this market. We don't want to be disappointed multiple times.

[fading wyvern]

i have super sweaty hand and tend to eat at my desk, would rather not chance it

[visual pilot]

oh I would suggest honeycomb if you have sweaty hands

it's nice that it doesn't get as wet and hard to grip

:p

[fading wyvern]

yeah but gross and i already own the ultimate mouse

[visual pilot]

mow is also quite durable

I have it, I like it, I support it.

[fading wyvern]

[visual pilot]

@slow tide things are what they are, different people experience different things, it's probably too much info for you atm, can safely ignore most other things we talk about now

[slow tide]

But seriously, I appreciate the feedback, help, information, and nightmare fuel. Not all equally, but, you know. xD

[visual pilot]

Hopefully no nightmares as you sleep on this info

[slow tide]

Impossabril! I must compulsively buy now less I form a rational thought on my actions!

[visual pilot]

Nightmare for the wallet it seems

[maiden wedge]

hello

looking for a hdr 4k

monitor

200-300

[fading wyvern]

i can do it for double tht... m28u

[carmine bloom]

Are open box monitors super risky on Newegg?

[misty gyro]

Not really, just might be missing an accessory or something

Never had an issue personally with open box anything, except a mobo not having sata cables (which didn't matter to me)

[carmine bloom]

Ah okie

[wary wave]

just found out corsair has a monitor now

surprisingly coming from corsair they didnt slap a bunch of rgb on the monitor or extra lighting like other companies

still expensive though, will have too wait for reviews to see if its worth it at its price point for a medium between gaming and content creation of any sort

[fading wyvern]

It’s not looking that great sadly. Hopefully with time and a bit more experience they’ll reduce the price and make some of those Corsair features more accessible.

[violet fiber]

Hello people what do you recommend as a 4k monitor for ps5?

[fading wyvern]

I’d recommend a gigabyte m28u

[visual pilot]

M28U great monitor but I doubt PS5 will run it well

[fading wyvern]

Yeah I do too but it’s the cheapest 4K hdmi 2.1 monitor I can think of

[wary wave]

[quartz sandal]

[celest lark]

if you were to get a monitor with a 21:9 aspect ration how would you watch youtube/netflix/disney+ without black bars?

[wary wave]

cant unless they have an option for wide screen

[obsidian walrus]

ya dont

[fading wyvern]

[celest lark]

so there isn't a real point to get a ultrawide for tv shows/movie watching when it's at a 21:9 ratio

[carmine bloom]

Is it even in stock anywhere? I'm down to buy it lmao

Not in stock on wegg, Amazon, or best buy

Sadness

[visual pilot]

Mm oos atm

[carmine bloom]

Also, it looks like a lot of Aorus monitors won't ship to Minnesota for some reason

Had to buy open box to get a monitor i wanted e.e

[noble current]

That's weird? Have you found out why? @carmine bloom

[carmine bloom]

Nope

Lol

[untold umbra]

man my monitor caused me so much pain and now this ass monitor fixed itslef

[oblique belfry]

I just got a 75hz monitor

[quasi thorn]

Thats what I have. What's everyone's perspective on HDMI vs Display port?

[quartz sandal]

I prefer dp

[visual pilot]

Displayport tends to have higher bandwidth out of the two options depending on version in most cases

[misty gyro]

HDMI is usually fine up to about 120Hz 1440p depending on versions, and a lot of the time you need DP for VRR (freesync, gsync)

[coral path]

I got a Aorus FI32Q and have it on 2k settings but when in game it keep reverting to 4k which annoys me and no matter how i change the settings it keep reverting back to 4k when i alt tab or fullscreen

[visual pilot]

Check windows settings and nvidia control panel if your screen is set to 4k for some random reason

[coral path]

its been 2k, i tried lowering the res abit and still some how manage to revert back to 4k 😄

ive just reintalled drivers and see if it does it again\

[coral path]

so apparently when i choose 2560x1440 it sees it as 3840 x 2160 but when i choose 1920x1440 it choose 2560 x 1440? And yet it locks at 60 fps

[visual pilot]

Wack

@coral path maybe you'll have monitor drivers

[coral path]

il have monitor drivers?

defective monitor driver?

[visual pilot]

See if you can get monitor drivers

Might help

[coral path]

oh yeah i havent thought of that

[coral path]

ITS FIX! thx man

[visual pilot]

Nice

[coral path]

nvm i celebrated to early, il just perform a replacement

[visual pilot]

Wat

[coral path]

It seems to still revert back to 4k res and the HDR doesnt even turn on

[visual pilot]

when in doubt, blame windows, restart and do sfc and dism, might as well

[coral path]

i perform a DDU and now HDR shows and can be turn on in Aorus app and also windows settings

[visual pilot]

fun

[coral path]

But yeah, i got some of it to fix but it still reverts back either way.

[visual pilot]

not fun

[coral path]

il just return it, i found another problem and im not going to deal with it anymore. I tried my best.

[visual pilot]

sad

[quasi thorn]

Thank you!

[sick plume]

freesync runs off hdmi

[jagged depot]

Just switched from triple 24" 1080 75hrz to a 32" 4 k, def looks crisper

But sadly only 60hrz

[misty gyro]

If I was going to do 4k I'd have to get at least a 120Hz so I can still game at 1440p120Hz, but when I'm watching movies and stuff I can have it on 4k. Way out of my budget, though.

[raw ingot]

If I have a ton of cash

I would defo get 4k120hz monitors

Then game at 1080p at 120 fps lmao

The 4k would be used in games that I don't need high fps

And anything outside of games

[misty gyro]

Play cs:go at 4k120, you'd probably still get 300 fps lol

[raw ingot]

True tbh

1080p would be killing the cpu

csgo never has enough cpu

[jagged depot]

But I play in 5740 x 1080 with the 3 monitors almost same pixel s as a 3820 2000

My 5700xt water cooled not occur can push about 90fps at 4k with fsr on

120 on the bench mark

[misty gyro]

5700XT
There's your problem right there

[raw ingot]

^

[jagged depot]

GPU is fine for now can put out more than monitor

Have 2 in my tower

Would rather build a whole new rig than upgrade gpu

[maiden wedge]

ASUS TUF Gaming VG27VH1BR 27"
Curved Monitor, 1080P Full HD, 165Hz
(Supports 144Hz), Extreme Low Motion
Blur, Adaptive-sync, FreeSync' Premium,
1ms, Eye Care, HDMI D-Sub

Is this a good deal ?

For 195

USD

[quartz sandal]

i would get the msi g241 or msi g242 or the tuf 24" instead as 27" doesnt look the best at 1080p for a lot of people

[quartz sandal]

Pretty sure there's curved versions of g242

[sick plume]

i have an msi curved monitor and its not that thick

i have 24" curved msi

144hz and 24" big upgrade over 75hz 21" i had

damnnn

[fading wyvern]

https://youtu.be/IInLiyU9tXA gunna be u

[wary bay]

Does anyone have recommendations for 100% DCI-P3 coverage wide color gamut display(s)?

I'm looking for lots of screen real estate, several options to choose from, and even possibly something large enough with high enough pixel density to equal or best a multi-display setup.

[quartz sandal]

Why do you need 100% accuracy?

[raw ingot]

^

If you game even 100% srgb is fine

If you do actually need that accuracy, it has to be something about arts

Or photo editing

[summer tiger]

is the AOC 27g2 good?

[raw ingot]

get msi optix g241 instead

[summer tiger]

i would like a 27" monitor

and that is one that a friend recommended

[fading wyvern]

Most of AOC’s stuff is pretty good. Go for it if you want to.

[raw ingot]

rtings says it's decent

so yeah, if you want 27"

go for it

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/cq27g2

va tho

[wary wave]

[prisma cypress]

Anyone got an idea of how much I should pay for this used? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zj8Zxr/asus-monitor-90lm00u0b01370

[misty gyro]

I'd say at least $600 depending on condition

[prisma cypress]

Damn.

Aiight IG ill buy it. Someone I know is selling it for $250, and it doesn't have dead pixels/not washed and OC'ing looks fine

Thanks

[misty gyro]

For that price there has to be something wrong with it

I'm a pessimist like that though

[prisma cypress]

Nah, it's a friend. He let me do some rigorous gaming with it for a couple hours and everything seemed to work well.

[misty gyro]

Wow, nice find then. That's not a cheap display by any means.

[prisma cypress]

Alright, thanks again!

[warm osprey]

hi

please give me expert advice

2k true hdr ips 144hz at least gaming monitor

[sick plume]

2k is 1080p

You want 1080p?

[wary wave]

and why hdr

[warm osprey]

2560x1440

[warm osprey]

win 11 hdr enabled & for gaming (auto conversion to hdr)

[sick plume]

Get the m27q

Gigabyte m27q

[warm osprey]

that's 8bit, not 10 or 12

[sick plume]

Its also for gaming

Lol

Ur not gonna see any difference

[warm osprey]

its like sdr

8 bit

[sick plume]

Thats not what hdr is

Ur talking about different things completely

M27Q is very much hdr

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_imaging

[warm osprey]

CONS
Blacks look gray in dark environments.
Poor ergonomics.
No local dimming.
Doesn't get bright enough for a true HDR experience.

[sick plume]

HDR for gaming is not great anyway

[warm osprey]

thanks

[wary wave]

just about every gaming monitor isnt going to have a good enough brightness for "true hdr"

[warm osprey]

so m27q is the best?

[sick plume]

If you want 10 bit colour and hdr 1000 you get a studio monitor

Which isnt gonna be like 60hz

And cost as much as a kidney

[warm osprey]

like apple xdr monitor

[wary wave]

if you want true hdr, youre either going to by a monitor for accurate colors such as a pro art monitor, or pay really high dollar for a really high end gaming monitor for as close to "true hdr" as possible which still doesnt come close to a fairly mediocre creation monitor

[sick plume]

Get the m27q

And call it good

[warm osprey]

thank you

please rate it: from 0 to 10

or 0 to 100

[wary wave]

scale is basically the same but aight

give it an 8

[warm osprey]

so its good, not great not bad

[sick plume]

No

Its great

Not exceptional

[warm osprey]

thank you guys

[wary wave]

good is like a 5 or 6

[warm osprey]

my ratings: 7 = normal, below 7 = bad

[wary wave]

thats kinda bad rating system but you do you

[warm osprey]

thank you

have nice day

[quartz sandal]

Why would 7 be normal

[warm osprey]

metacritic/gamerankings score

😄

[quartz sandal]

Why wouldn't 5 be normal? Normal = average and 5 is average ???

[warm osprey]

Based on my experience of the games I played based on Meta Score of Metacritic, the score below 6.5 was terribly bad.

[quartz sandal]

Then whatever metacritics rating system is it sucks lol

[warm osprey]

they get paid for editing real score

dirty bussiness

but the 8 or 80 scores of MC is really good

blame critics, not MC

biased reviews i mean

[quartz sandal]

Nah blame the bribed "critics" xD that's an ad not a review

[warm osprey]

blade of darkness real score: 9.5, metascore: 7.5

[obsidian walrus]

hrd400 bro

!!

[quartz sandal]

Hdr400 might as well be not a standard

[sick plume]

So? Is that not hdr?

[obsidian walrus]

its hdr in the same sense that a mustang is a sports car

[visual pilot]

It's also that the consumer doesn't actually really care about stuff like that other than a label that says what it is, it's like how some people really want dram for some reason and hmb is somewhat of a dram equivalent. Doesn't matter to them in the end, they just want something they can brag about basically, not that they're really going to use it :p

Otherwise they would've asked for like hdr1000

[obsidian walrus]

like a mustang

[forest portal]

Facts

[forest portal]

[obsidian walrus]

[uneven seal]

Anyone have a good 27inch or 32inch 4K monitor that has accurate color and possibly hdr that they would recommend? Looking to get a good monitor for content and some video editing. Thanks

[hard dagger]

Go for samsung

They have very good quality monitor

and go for qled tehnology

oled is kinda outdated

[fading wyvern]

[raw ingot]

qled isn't actually qled

it's still inferior to oled

and samsung doesn't always make good monitors

like many of em actually loses to others

[fading wyvern]

I didn’t wanna tell em

I wanted them to start second guessing themselves and then do a bit of research

[raw ingot]

oh

rip, i missed the fun

[fading wyvern]

Probably didn’t

[dawn silo]

Is this a good monitor?

Debating between M27Q and this

Curved is very nice feature

[errant edge]

M27q afaik is the best 300$ 1440p high refresh rate monitor

[dawn silo]

165 Hz + 1440p for under 300

[errant edge]

Theyre close

But I think the m27q is better

[dawn silo]

M27Q isn’t curved

Pretty basic

[errant edge]

Ok

Idk

[dawn silo]

It’s an extra 20$ now

[errant edge]

I'd go for the m27q but if you wantt the curved go for it

[dawn silo]

Bacca @errant edge

Is this good?

[raw ingot]

hm

that combo looks attractive

[dawn silo]

rlly??

[errant edge]

Yeah thats nice

[raw ingot]

ye

[errant edge]

I cant see anything wrong

[dawn silo]

Nice enough to buy?

[raw ingot]

definitely

[dawn silo]

There’s this too

GPU is only 3060 not ti

[raw ingot]

id get the 3060ti

[errant edge]

Eh, I wouldn't run 1440p on a 3060

[raw ingot]

also ya meant gpu

[errant edge]

Also why pair an 11400f with a 3060 for 1440p gaming lol

[raw ingot]

paying like 150 more is worth for the 3060ti ngl

it's a huge step up

[dawn silo]

If only the case was different in the ti

[errant edge]

What's wrong with it?

[dawn silo]

No mesh no rgb

[errant edge]

I guess it might be a heater yeah

You could go for the 3060 and trade it up to a 3060 ti with cash on your end

r/hardwareswap

But

[dawn silo]

I could buy a different case

And take out every part

😂

[errant edge]

No garauntee you'll find a trade palatable to you

That too

Prolly a better idea lmao

[dawn silo]

This is all so complicated 😂

[quartz sandal]

Not really a fair comparison cuz it depends if you want curved screen or not

[summer tiger]

is g24f a good monitor?

[hollow horizon]

BenQ Zowie XL2540K 24.5 inch 240Hz Gaming Monitor | Smaller Base | Flexible Height & tilt Adjustment | XL Setting to Share | Customizable Quick Menu https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JHGH42Y/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_a_DWPD424ARZNW6NC456CW

or

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VG259QM-Compatible-DisplayHDR-DisplayPort/dp/B0876KP2CK/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?crid=3K3CDBWPE0R13&dchild=1&keywords=24.5%2Binch%2Bmonitor%2B240hz&qid=1634270286&sprefix=24.5%2B&sr=8-10&th=1&psc=1

[summer tiger]

500 dollar yikes

[hollow horizon]

it’s $329?

[hollow horizon]

ahhhh ur aussie. my bad

[summer tiger]

is the g24f good for that price point?

[misty gyro]

I don't see any reliable reviews for that monitor, so I'd go for the MSI G241 or G242 instead.

[raw ingot]

^

[misty gyro]

That asus is way better

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/asus-tuf-gaming-vg259qm-vs-benq-zowie-xl2540/13912/492?usage=3623&threshold=0.10

[coral path]

is there a gaming monitor that supports DP 2.0??

[fading wyvern]

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2021/1/14/22230654/displayport-2-monitors-delay-vesa-statement (I think the new Corsair monitor is 2.0)

[coral path]

I see thx

[queen marten]

I have a small tech question, first post, sorry if its in the wrong spot. I just bought a Acer Nitro VG270U Pbmiipx 27", and the screen flicks black on and off every 2-15 minutes or so. Dual screen from my laptop (MSI GF65, rtx 2060, 24gb ram, 1tb ssd, 15-9300h)

[quartz sandal]

I'd say it's most likely the cable/dock you're using, possibly could be the graphics drivers as well so if cable swap don't work I'd try use ddu in safe mode then reinstall the intel and the Nvidia drivets

[queen marten]

thanks Pato. Ive tried 3 cables, all are not perfect, one was just garbage. I dont know much about computers, so i failed at installing new drivers, (no .exe to run from nvidia) and im not sure what DDU is, do you know of a good place to start some research rather than me blindly going at it in google?

[warped night]

I Hate Glossy laptop displays

They should be illegal

Actually, glossy displays in general should be illegal

They just suck

[quartz sandal]

Yeah so easiest way to download nvidias drivers is to install geforce experience but you can download ddu here https://www.wagnardsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3786 download that, then boot into safe mode, by following one of these steps https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/advanced-startup-options-including-safe-mode-b90e7808-80b5-a291-d4b8-1a1af602b617 then run ddu and in the settings select all the nvidia and intel drivers, then do the recommended option(uninstall and restart) then you can download geforce experience(nvidia drivers) here https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/geforce-experience/ and the intel ones here https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/search.html?ws=text#t=Downloads&layout=table&cf:Downloads=[{"actualLabel"%3A"Graphics"%2C"displayLabel"%3A"Graphics"}]

[rancid dove]

yo I'm gonna be in the market for a 1440p 144 or 165hz monitor soon, been hearing a lot of good stuff about the gigabyte g27q but figured I'd ask here anyways, budget is 250-300 hopefully not anything over that 😂

[quartz sandal]

I'd get m27q if possible but yeah g27q is decent too

[rancid dove]

oh whoops yeah I had m27q down idk why I typed g

kinda weird though Amazon doesn't ship m27q's to my state

[quartz sandal]

odd

[carmine bloom]

same its really weird

I had to buy used to get the monitor I wanted

[quartz sandal]

Or you can just buy from wegg or something lol

Or best buy

[carmine bloom]

newegg wouldn't ship it either

Thats where I bought the open box

they wouldn't ship it new though

[rancid dove]

oh dope bestbuy has some of em

that's weird why doesn't amazon ship m27q to Minnesota

[carmine bloom]

oh im also in minnesota

[rancid dove]

any other monitor I checked on Amazon shipped here just not that

[carmine bloom]

YEAH

[rancid dove]

minnesota gang baby

[carmine bloom]

Its so weird

[rancid dove]

yeah idk what's up with it

[carmine bloom]

maybe theres a law restricting it due to wattage or efficiency or somethin

[rancid dove]

I mean maybe but 4k monitors use more wattage I assume than 1440 and those ship here

[carmine bloom]

ye I dunno lol

[rancid dove]

me neither bro

[carmine bloom]

What I found on reddit

[rancid dove]

huh that's weird

I think the bestbuy near college has some in stock

i hope

[carmine bloom]

Microcenter in St Louis Park has the M27Q in stock.

[noble current]

That sucks about the monitor thing. Same here in California. Maybe buy it in microcenter or BB. Tell them about the offer =/

[carmine bloom]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/639853/gigabyte-m27q-27-wqhd-(2560-x-1440)-170hz-hdmi-dp-usb-c-freesync-ips-led-gaming-monitor @rancid dove

[silent epoch]

Seems alright here....

[noble current]

There are six available

[carmine bloom]

I got the FI25F. its 1080p 240hz. and looks really good actually.

[rancid dove]

sweet man unfortunately im up north for college but next time I'm home I'll have to swing by microcenter, thanks tho!

[carmine bloom]

Oh :( Duluth?

[rancid dove]

yessir

[carmine bloom]

Hopefully best buy had something for ya then

[rancid dove]

ya it says they can have one by Sunday but I'm not too pressed on a monitor yet I still need my GPU 😬

[carmine bloom]

Ah lol

[maiden wedge]

Recommendations for 1440 monitors with hdr10? 32 inch monitors?

[empty peak]

baller display ?

https://cuonganhpc.vn/man-hinh-gigabyte-g24f-ek.html

200usd square

[raw ingot]

how about msi g241/242?

what's it at

If it costs more than the gigabyte, just get the gigabyte

[empty peak]

more

[maiden wedge]

Check this out on @Newegg: ASUS TUF Gaming VG35VQ 35" 3440 x 1440 (2K) 1 ms 100 Hz HDMI, DisplayPort Curved Gaming Monitor https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824281056?Item=9SIA25VEMG7199&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIA25VEMG7199-_-10152021

??

[raw ingot]

no

that's overpriced too

[maiden wedge]

I’m going with 32 inch monitors…

[raw ingot]

i mean

normally it doesn't go at 500

[quartz sandal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mDH8TW/acer-xv340ck-pbmiipphzx-340-3440x1440-144-hz-monitor-xv340ck-pbmiipphzx I'd get this instead

[fiery knoll]

ok so i have a 27 inch 1440p monitor and a 24 inch 1080p monitor set up to the same pc. When i move the mouse, a window or anything else between the screen they are not alligned and its so annoying. I have tried a few solutions i found on the internet but nothing worked. Any ideas?

[quartz sandal]

Only solution is same size monitors unfortunately

[fiery knoll]

well

thats unfortunate

[near berry]

Hello. I was shopping on NewEgg, and the chat referred me to here - discord. I started a heldesk level 1 support job in July, and I'm trying to set up to work from home. I need a bigger monitor like a 21:9. DELL tells me that my 1 HDMI port is version 1.4 and online says that can drive a 4K/UHD monitor. Really ? Can I use a 4K monitor with HDMI 1.4 ?

[quartz sandal]

It can do 4k 24hz which is not a fun time, I'd stick to 1440p instead

It's 1/2 way from 1080p to 4k basically

[visual pilot]

You can run 4k at 30hz natively with HDMI 1.4 afaik

And well, for work, shouldn't be too bad

[quartz sandal]

Still bit janky

60hz way smoother :(

[visual pilot]

True, but also need to know what gpu

[quartz sandal]

Do you happen to have a display port port?

And yes what gpu do you have

[near berry]

ALL: Thank you - right - I was hoping for 60 Hz as too. Right - this is just for work BUT in future I want a REAL gaming PC. No - no DP, and GPU. Just MoBo/DELL graphics - that's all.

Pato, Is 1440 2K ?. I don't need 4K for work, but 2K would be nice !!!

To clarify no DP no GPU. Recently learned DP is great for gaming. ONE DAY I will join you for gaming, but not now.

[quartz sandal]

What cpu do you have btw?

[near berry]

Intel i5

Windows 7 Pro, 16 GB RAM, the PC is very responsive - in good shape etc.

[quartz sandal]

could you check which i5, you can check in advanced task manger view as theres a lot of i5s

[near berry]

i5-4460S

[quartz sandal]

yeah id say that maxs out at 1080p for you my friend

[near berry]

8 GB RAM, 2.90 GHz

[quartz sandal]

yeah bit old and integrated graphics arent very good unfortunately

[near berry]

Pato - I agree. Thank you. I just need to make a decision. If I want a gaming PC this will NOT be it.

What is this "discord" with NewEgg etc ?

[quartz sandal]

Well discord is kinda like skype/teamspeak but with text channels and this is just one for Newegg where people mainly talk about tech

[near berry]

Well that's fine with me, but still unexpected WHEN I thought I could just talk to some NewEgg tech support !

But Pato you have been very helpful - thank you - if I can afford it I would like a real gaming PC in a couple of years.

[maiden wedge]

@quartz sandal ended up seeing a dell s3220dgf at Best Buy. Looked incredibly good

[quartz sandal]

youre welcome :)

[quartz sandal]

yeah its a bit odd, im guessing their support isnt really qualified in tech or something and is more of a customer support role

[near berry]

@late knot well I don't understand any of this BUT I am taking YOUR advice. NewEgg has an HDMI 1.4 21:9 1080 monitor, and it looks like that's my selection. Tell me what games do you like ? I used to love DOOM, Quake, and Mechwarrior 2, but now I'm thinking I would like EVEOnline. Idk. There are so many games.

[quartz sandal]

im a big fan of overwatch and CSGO, hmm what monitor is it? i would be a bit worried about the image looking a bit pixelated if the monitor is too big at 1080p

[near berry]

Cool !

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824160457?Item=N82E16824160457

@late knot - remember this is mostly for work. Maybe by next year I'll get a REAL gaming PC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quartz sandal]

that should be good, looks a bit pricey though, ill see if theres anything better suited price wise

theres a nice 29" model here https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hPzhP6/lg-29wp60g-b-290-2560x1080-75-hz-monitor-29wp60g-b for a bit less money

[near berry]

Really ? A buddy of mine felt that was a good price BUT I am not picky here - NOT blaming anyone ! I just want to make a decision, and get this done ! But UR good - np - I'm open to anything you recommend.

messages crossing - ok - I'm looking at it.

ur nice guy - thank you ! !!

[quartz sandal]

no problem, theres also this one as well which is 34" https://www.newegg.com/lg-34-uw-uxga/p/N82E16824025967?Item=9SIAFVFC2T9615

[near berry]

Got it. U the man ! Once I get settled with work I'm gonna circle back to this gaming business. Maybe I'll see you online my friend !

[quartz sandal]

maybe, good luck with the work :)

[near berry]

thank you. well I started in July, but I had been out of work a long time. Going ok now. Thank you ! I'll check out your games !

[maiden wedge]

so i’ve always been a laptop gamer and have had a keyboard and mouse connected to the laptop itself and the laptop was on a stand, but, i wanted to try using this TV/monitor my dad has, and it works but the quality is really bad and looks pixelated. any fix?

it doesn’t look that bad on the photo hit IRL it does

like you can tel it looks pixelated

i in no way expect it to be ultra HD quality but i at least want to get rid of the pixelation. if its not fixable im ajust keep usin the laptop screen

[maiden wedge]

Up the resolution

You’re on 768p that’s why

@maiden wedge

[raw ingot]

That's low ppi for ya

Also the (recommended) indicator means it's the max res of the monitor lol

Besides that monitor looks old enough to have that res

[maiden wedge]

i’m probs just gonna use my laptop screen then

[next dagger]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1430182-REG/dell_22_p2219h_full_hd.html

wait the monitor i stole from my dads work may actually be alright

also how does display overclocking work

[misty gyro]

https://www.pcgamer.com/amp/how-to-overclock-your-60hz-monitor-and-gain-a-gaming-edge/

[maiden wedge]

is this good

not looking to spend 200 dollars on a monitor, im a laptop gamer lol

[quartz sandal]

@maiden wedge whats the model number

Can't really see much in that picture

[maiden wedge]

idk

i already left the store

[quartz sandal]

Oh well

[maiden wedge]

when i get home i’ll go on the walmart website and try to find it

[quartz sandal]

Okey

[maiden wedge]

@quartz sandal is that it?

[quartz sandal]

Possibly

Monitor names are hell

[near berry]

Hello. Me again. I did some more research so I need to ask again:

Hello. Need to revisit my issue. I'm trying to avoid multiple monitors, and docking stations. According to DELL my 1 HDMI port is version 1.4. Inspiron 3647 w/ Service Tag 1NT3S52. Can I drive a 21:9 2K monitor @ 60 Hz ?

[misty gyro]

Yes but that's about the max you can do over 1.4 hdmi. 1440p 73Hz is technically the max theoretical.

[limpid cedar]

back again asking about TVs - what kind of price would I be looking at for top-of-the-line products?

[misty gyro]

Depends what size class you're looking at and what panel you like. OLED is very nice on TVs.

[limpid cedar]

65” area

[misty gyro]

No preference on panel?

Rtings does TV reviews too, they have lots of good options

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/by-size/65-inch

[maiden wedge]

So I went with a dell s3220dgf monitor. 1440 165hz hdr 32 inch curved. Looks awesome

[quartz sandal]

Well you can get a samsung the wall for roughly 300k

[fading wyvern]

“LG's New 325-Inch 8K TV Takes Up the Whole Wall and Costs $1.7 Million.”

[quartz sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-falls-pass-out-faints-gif-8604193

[carmine bloom]

That pixel density sucks

[warped night]

Yeah, that's gonna be really poor pixel density

[misty gyro]

Meant to be viewed from theater distance

[dawn silo]

Anybody got some good monitor suggestions? Looking for gaming use and looking for a wide big screen

No preference for curved or not

[visual pilot]

what gpu

and what budget

[dawn silo]

3070

200-300$

Looking M27Q currently but it is a bit small

[visual pilot]

how is it small :(

[dawn silo]

Just seeing if there are other options

Well I have a huge gaming desk

No budget to afford multiple monitors

[visual pilot]

so use single monitor...?

[dawn silo]

Yes but looking for a bit wider screen

Or larger in general size

[visual pilot]

for gaming? not gonna find a good uw 1440p panel under 300$ lel

[dawn silo]

So M27Q is the best monitor under 300$?

Or is the Asus Tuf Predator viable as well

[visual pilot]

for a 3070, best monitor atm under 300$ for gaming

which one

but anyways ultrawide will set you back ~400$ like this, I don't see this as too viable for you
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BG4GWRL

[dawn silo]

I think for now single will be fine. I can do double if needed later on

The ASUS TUF Gaming 27” 1440p curved monitor

165 Hz

[visual pilot]

oh the va panel

worse colors

[dawn silo]

278$

[abstract scaffold]

i dont think I could go back to non IPS since 2015

[dawn silo]

Open box

[dawn silo]

What is non IPS

[abstract scaffold]

my ideal monitor is IPS 120hz Ultrawide with freesync, etc

like a monitor that isn't IPS

[visual pilot]

lol ips is nice, although modern va tech has advanced quite a bit, still falls short in color though

[abstract scaffold]

i used to only love IPS because you could watch movies on it from any angle, so with ex girlfriends i could lay on the bed and watch movies with them on the tiny monitor from across the room

[visual pilot]

3 main types of panels, IPS, VA, TN (ew).

oh yea IPS viewing angles are great

[abstract scaffold]

my old monitors would grey out and couldn't view the TN's from the bed lol

[visual pilot]

VA viewing angles are still a bit bad

[dawn silo]

How’s Gigabyte G27Q

[visual pilot]

worse panel than m27q

worse color worse response time iirc little bit lower refresh rate

[abstract scaffold]

I am going to try to aim for an IPS high refresh rate monitor maybe ultrawide at 1440p between $300-400 within the next year now that I have a 5800x and 3070 Ti PC upgraded from my old 2700x 1070 PC

[visual pilot]

like g27q is okay but I'll take m27q over it any day tbh

M27q is ips btw

[dawn silo]

How about the Gigabyte G27QC A 27” 165 Hz 2560x1440p Curved Monitor

[visual pilot]

g27qc is va

[dawn silo]

Is VA good?

[abstract scaffold]

right now I have a $250 LG 1080p 75hz Ultrawide freesync IPS display which wasn't bad for a year ago

[dawn silo]

I live in it

🤷‍♂️

[visual pilot]

ips>va for colors, usually better response time and less overshoot and such

and also ips better viewing angles but smaller thing

[abstract scaffold]

yeah I'd just try to get an IPS panel if you can, it's benefits outweigh going for cheaper

[visual pilot]

ips is in plane switching, va is vertical alligned, tn is twisted something

[dawn silo]

Is curved a lot worse in performance

Or just personal choice

[visual pilot]

curved -> va -> not ips -> sad

[dawn silo]

and ips is better then curved

[visual pilot]

but also personal preference I don't believe curved is viable until you get to like 40in

[dawn silo]

40?

oh 40”

That’s true

That’s probably around 800$

[visual pilot]

Like I see 34in ultrawide panels being curved, at that point it might start to make a difference

[abstract scaffold]

yeah curved on monitors that aren't HUGE aren't really worth it

now an ultrawide being curved? not bad

[dawn silo]

How’s 32” on curved

[abstract scaffold]

but a regular 16:9 curved wouldn't make much sense unless it's big

[dawn silo]

Z-Edge 32” 1080 P

[visual pilot]

16:9 curved in general doesn't really matter

oh god don't tell me that's a 32in 16:9 1080p panel

[abstract scaffold]

the prob with 32" displays at 1080p is the pixel density, need to watch out for that

[dawn silo]

Yes and 165 Hz

[abstract scaffold]

when they get that big at 1080p you can see the individual pixels because it's too blown up

[visual pilot]

pixel density is going to suck

[cyan vigil]

Eh, I'm happy with my new curved monitor. Just got the Samsung odyssey g5. 27inch 1440p at 144hz.

[visual pilot]

and suck really bad

[abstract scaffold]

so you'd want at least 1440p or 4k at that size

[visual pilot]

Sure g5 is a pretty decent monitor, curved doesn't make the monitor bad, it's just a feature that doesn't really add much at 27in imo

[abstract scaffold]

I love my 21:9 Ultrawide at 1080p, though it's only like 29" (tech 24" normally since they measure diagonally)

but I wish it was bigger and had higher refresh rate than just 75hz

it's great for content creation i'm sure but need a slightly bigger resolution and size with higher refresh rate, getting that in 21:9 UW IPS is also very expensive

[dawn silo]

Acer Nitro 34” 3440x1440 144 Hz

Curved

305$

[abstract scaffold]

not bad, assuming it's TN or VA tthough

at that price.

[visual pilot]

@dawn silo Are you sure on the price

[cyan vigil]

I can see your point. I'm just happy to have a monitor that isn't 1080p from 6 to 7 years ago XD.

[visual pilot]

I'm seeing 400$

[dawn silo]

305.99

[abstract scaffold]

tbh i still do pretty well with 1080p, prob with ultrawide is you can't use DSR dynamic super sampling in Nvidia control panel with those UW resolutions, really annoying

so you can't upscale from 1080p to 4k on a 1080p monitor thx to nvidia being lazy

[dawn silo]

886 ratings of 85% positive

[visual pilot]

I mean, fsr prob would have some trouble too

[abstract scaffold]

is it IPS? lol

[dawn silo]

I’m texting on phone and viewing on pc

Let me go on pc discord

[abstract scaffold]

double fisting

[dawn silo]

And send

[visual pilot]

the one I linked was ips

not too sure which one they're talking about now

[abstract scaffold]

nice, look up some reviews on it

before you pull the trigger on a monitor purchase always watch a bunch of reviews

[visual pilot]

well

[dawn silo]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824011395?Item=9SIACA1FK95274&Description=monitor&cm_re=monitor-_-24-011-395-_-Product

[visual pilot]

I only really trust hwunboxed and rtings for monitor reviews tbh

[cyan vigil]

Watch reviews and do your own research too lol.

[visual pilot]

Oh used and va

[abstract scaffold]

yeah but sadly hwunboxed doesn't have a huge selection of monitors to choose from

the ones they do review tend to be sold out al ot of the time lol

[visual pilot]

I mean

[dawn silo]

how do you know VA

i dont see it

[abstract scaffold]

it should say somewhere

or in teh description below

it always says if it's TN, VA, or IPS. If it doesn't then stay awy

(or then it's probably TN)

[dawn silo]

@visual pilot saw it immediately

i dont see it

i mean used for that price still probably isnt bad

its huge

[abstract scaffold]

that linked one is VA

it says below in specs Panel VA

[visual pilot]

you can go to acer themselves if you wanted confirmation
https://store.acer.com/en-us/34-ei2-ultra-wide-curved-gaming-monitor-ei342ckr-pbmiippx

[dawn silo]

ahhhh

im so uneducated in monitors

[abstract scaffold]

god all the mointors look the same on newegg and amazon lol

yeah monitors takes a lot of time

to research

[dawn silo]

ive been so very busy with figuring out prebuilts and computers

[abstract scaffold]

don't just jump on the first one you see for a good price, usually othere's some caveat with them

[dawn silo]

i have no idea what to get

[visual pilot]

tbh

for me, it's just gone down to M27q being best

[dawn silo]

serious?

it just looks small to me

[abstract scaffold]

monitors is the one thing you can spend days researching and still not make a decision >.< that's why friends recommending some or good reviews from like hwunboxed go a long way

[visual pilot]

I have not seen anything that can beat m27q in price to performance

[abstract scaffold]

link i mean lol

[dawn silo]

its 320$ rn

[visual pilot]

you want to see m27q or reviews on the m27q...?

[dawn silo]

it isnt small?

[visual pilot]

27in is not small

[abstract scaffold]

AoC and LG monitors aren't too bad, owned a few AoC monitors and they're reliable. LG's was broken when I got it but they fixed and shipped for free

[visual pilot]

A lot of people daily 24in and feel fine

[abstract scaffold]

27" is not small but not huge either, it's big enough for a monitor though

[dawn silo]

so is it bigger than a laptop

[visual pilot]

laptops are usually 15in/17in lol

[abstract scaffold]

yeah my UW is 24", though i wish it was a little bigger

[dawn silo]

dang

thatll feel nice

im used to my laptop for years

[abstract scaffold]

most people run 24" to 27" i'd say

yeah 24" will feel fine, i been using 24" monitors for years

tho i'd prefer 27"

the prob is the bigger you go the more you worry about resolution and pixel density

if you go 27" with 1080p you might see the pixels

[dawn silo]

how do you check inch on laptop

[abstract scaffold]

so you'd probably want 1440p with 27"

[dawn silo]

i think mine is bigger then average

[abstract scaffold]

measure diagonally from corner to corner bezel to bezel

[dawn silo]

okay wait

[visual pilot]

but also just look up the model

it'll say on product page

[abstract scaffold]

that's how they do the inches measurement, so my ultrawide tech is 29" but it's up and down 24"

[dawn silo]

why is there a 320$ M27Q and 287$ one

same specs

[visual pilot]

open box probably

[abstract scaffold]

probably some small difference..

[dawn silo]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=m27q

first two

[abstract scaffold]

could be a newer model too, LG has a new version of my monitor that's like $30-50 more expensive but has almost NOTHING new about it

[dawn silo]

ahh

is it worth

[abstract scaffold]

depends :/

[dawn silo]

getting open box monitor

[abstract scaffold]

who it's from

[visual pilot]

Newegg doesn't make open box and such too clear

[dawn silo]

i feel for monitor it wouldnt be the best

[visual pilot]

It's from Newegg but eh, it's your choice, open box might be missing a cable or smth

[abstract scaffold]

it's like buying from the best buy Marketplace, CBC Marketplace YT channel just did a piece on them

[visual pilot]

Old newegg dead pixel policy was also not the best

[abstract scaffold]

yeah open box could have issues, it's good to reuse stuff but

you take a risk

[dawn silo]

its only like a 30$ difference tbh

get warranty and normal

[abstract scaffold]

yeah i would probably just buy the new one so you know it's new and

then if something is broken

you can use teh warranty to get it fixed for free

like my LG UW monitor had a dead backlight panel

but was brand new despite buying from Amazon

[dawn silo]

any idea if m27q will go on sale for black friday?

[abstract scaffold]

so LG was obligated to fix it for free

[visual pilot]

I mean, I haven't seen it go under like 290$

Around 320$ is the usual price

[abstract scaffold]

@dawn silo most likely, monitors tend to go on sale around black friday that's when I buy mine

[visual pilot]

sometimes goes on sale lower to 290$

[abstract scaffold]

but it may not get cheaper at all too

[dawn silo]

I mean i could look to find a monitor with their black friday gurantee

and get the difference $

[abstract scaffold]

it's a bit of a gamble, might be worth waiting until black friday

true true

[visual pilot]

Things usually go on sale for black friday

last year m27q did

[abstract scaffold]

2 years ago I got my Uw monitor from like $320 down to $275 I believe on black friday?

[dawn silo]

I do not see any monitors with the protection thing though

[abstract scaffold]

i used to love newegg back in 2017 when i built my PC :/ now they're kind of garbo

[dawn silo]

?

[abstract scaffold]

make sure to check Amazon too for monitor pricing cuz f it

[dawn silo]

was it better?

[abstract scaffold]

newegg's policies now are totally f'd

[visual pilot]

oh yea

it's cheaper on amazon atm

[dawn silo]

rlly?

[abstract scaffold]

they do NOT care about their customers anymore, if they did they wouldn't be trying to hawk a bunch of crap during the shuffle

[dawn silo]

10$

cheaper

[visual pilot]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JWCHR5N/

[abstract scaffold]

usually monitors cheaper on Amazon lol plus Prime so 2 day shipping sometimes

[dawn silo]

there's one for 300

[abstract scaffold]

just open a new free trial account if you don't have prime

[visual pilot]

eh, shuffle is just shuffle

[dawn silo]

is that nice

are you on the link Mr1111

[abstract scaffold]

27" 2560x1440 SS IPS Display

[dawn silo]

is the 300$ one worth it?

[abstract scaffold]

IPS display huh?

[dawn silo]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0927BQT33/?th=1

[abstract scaffold]

"GIGABYTE M27Q 27" 170Hz 1440P -KVM Gaming Monitor, 2560 x 1440 SS IPS Display, 0.5ms (MPRT) Response Time, 92% DCI-P3, HDR Ready, FreeSync Premium, 1x Display Port 1.2, 2x HDMI 2.0, 2x USB 3.0 "

it says it's IPS on that one for $309.99

[visual pilot]

hat's a completely different panel

[dawn silo]

oh wait

thats different monitor

[visual pilot]

again, g27qc is va

[dawn silo]

lmao

[abstract scaffold]

that's the one someone linked! lol

[dawn silo]

my bad

[abstract scaffold]

io mean 170hz 1440p IPS..

that's not bad

[visual pilot]

just a side note "super speed ips" is just gigabyte marketing for ips panel that happens to be fast

[abstract scaffold]

tbh i might get that one lol

[visual pilot]

probably going to go on sale for lower for black friday

310/320$ is common price for m27q

[abstract scaffold]

tbh https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JWCHR5N/?th=1 could be worth getting? $309 is not bad for 1440p 170hz IPS

maybe cheaper in a month on black friday.. hmmm

[dawn silo]

im not waiting for black friday lol

i got the pc coming in on friday

[visual pilot]

and ofc, reviews for m27q here
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27q
https://youtu.be/uNIqwxAZ-MQ

[dawn silo]

it would sit in the room for a month..

[abstract scaffold]

i dont even have the money to buy a new monitor after buying a 3070 Ti FTW3 and a freaking Ryzen 7 5800x for my old PC

[dawn silo]

my specs are i7 10700f and 3070

was 1400$

[abstract scaffold]

nice

yeah my 3070 Ti FTW3 was $800, then my 5800x was another $395.. ooof

[dawn silo]

cant build pc rn

[abstract scaffold]

luckily I had all the parts in my PC already

[dawn silo]

it was a prebuilt

[abstract scaffold]

using an X470 motherboard tho

[visual pilot]

not bad for the 3070ti

[abstract scaffold]

I got luckyh on launch day, like SUPER lucky

[visual pilot]

nothing wrong with a decent x470 board :p

[abstract scaffold]

EVGA elite queue system 9 mins after launch I got in lol

[visual pilot]

nice

[abstract scaffold]

it's an Asus Prime X470 Pro MB so it's ok

was $165 back in 2017

i put a 2700x in it for $330 wiht my old 1070 SC from 2017 too

wait mb was $165 in 2018,

i been slowly upgrading this PC over the years

the ram tho.. ooof

in 2017 it was like $170 or 180 for 16gb's of DDR4 3200mhz CL 14 Team Dark Pro RAM

then less than a year later RAM prices dropped dramatically

[visual pilot]

nothing wrong with dark pros >:P

[abstract scaffold]

now we getting DDR5 though soon! that will make me want a new MB

[visual pilot]

dark pros are still nice

[abstract scaffold]

yeah but the specific ram sticks i have

i can't find them anymore if i want another 16 gb's 😦

they were CL 14 14-14-14-31 timings so kind of pricey for the time

[visual pilot]

130$ on amazon
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075HQDYDN

[abstract scaffold]

I think i need like the same specific model though ya?

if I want all 32 gb's 4 sticks to be compatible properly

[visual pilot]

It is the same 14-14-14-31 xmp sooo

[abstract scaffold]

hmmmm

[visual pilot]

pretty sure same model

[abstract scaffold]

let me look up my newegg order history for which model I have..

[visual pilot]

it'll be b die both ways

[abstract scaffold]

I mean $117 ain't bad for another 16gb's to add to the system

b die both ways?

same B Die for all 4 sticks is what you're saying?

[visual pilot]

I mean it'll all be b die

no other die does 14-14-14-31 xmp tbh

[abstract scaffold]

nice, well if it's the same 14-14-14-31 timings that's not bad

yeah I just set the DOCP to it's default

and 3200mhz 14-14-14-31 no problem

[visual pilot]

prob want to oc it

b die nice for ocing

[abstract scaffold]

i've tried but can't figure it out

any time I set the speed higher it doesn't work

i just keep the DOCP but then set the speed higher to like 3400 or 3600 and i usually get a blue screen or something iirc, then have to clear the CMOS to boot

https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820313712?Item=N82E16820313712

here is the exact model that I have right now I ordered back in 2017 i think or 2018

[visual pilot]

I mean, memory oc is hard but you can
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4 OC Guide.md

anyways

[abstract scaffold]

oh wow I think they are the exact same memories, sh i wish i could buy it right now

i have tried memtest and all that stuff to figure out the numbers, entered them in before and it didn't work, so i don't know if it's worth it all the testing to try and OC for a small performance gain

[misty gyro]

Should be able to do 3800 c14 or better on b die with a few voltage tweaks

[abstract scaffold]

it could be my voltage settings too

[visual pilot]

should read through the whole guide

[abstract scaffold]

but i am not super familiar with the proper BIOS settings to tweak to make that work

[visual pilot]

it gets deeper

[abstract scaffold]

all that stuff goes over my head, I've fiddled around A LOT and read some of these guides but it is complicated

[visual pilot]

That guide has been the best guide I've seen so far that actually gets into details and are made by competent people

[abstract scaffold]

nice, I'll pin that

[visual pilot]

but well

[abstract scaffold]

right now the only setting I've chagned in bios is PBO on for 5800x, and DRAM voltage set to 1.35v

[visual pilot]

memory oc does get annoying and takes a long time

b die can daily 1.5v easily

heck, there are 1.55v xmp b die kits iirc

[abstract scaffold]

yeah I tried for years to get things set properly so i could OC but never worked without blue screening eventually

[visual pilot]

On zen 3, you'll want 1.1v vSOC and such

[abstract scaffold]

I think i've gone up to 1.40 or 1.45v on the DRAM before

freakin Zen 3 this 5800x gets so hot and the voltage really high

like 1.45 or 1.5v sometimes on the CPU

this 5800x is nuts, i should've went for a 5900x but they were like $650 against a $395 price tag

[misty gyro]

If you want to run such tight timings at higher frequency you'll need at least 1.5v, probably more. I'm at 1.52v daily

[abstract scaffold]

will that be possible with the 5800x cpu running normally at around 1.40v to 1.5v? I open CPU-Z and see those numbers often

i have a Noctua NH-D15 air cooler so im not too worried about temps with kryonaut paste but the motherboard is just ok as an asus prime x470 pro

[visual pilot]

big block of text on bits of info about dram voltage on that guide for example

[misty gyro]

Cpu voltage has nothing to do with dram voltage

[visual pilot]

and well, if you haven't manually set cpu voltage, it goes everywhere

boosting behavior and all

[abstract scaffold]

yeah i haven't set the cpu voltage manually

[visual pilot]

If you ever want to oc your sticks, do read through that guide, but that's that for now.

[abstract scaffold]

sounds good, is it worth changing teh cpu voltage for the 5800x?

or just leaving it at default with PBO set to On from it's default Auto?

I've seen one of the cores get up to 4.9 or 5.0ghz with PBO on so i think it helps a little, though the temps go up a bit.

[misty gyro]

Often a negative voltage offset gets better performance on 5800X. Then you can go into pbo advanced menu and set boost override to +150.

[abstract scaffold]

interstinggg

any clues on a good starting point for the negative voltage offset?

[misty gyro]

Every chip is different
Mine likes -0.0125v

The weird way my board works is it actually goes a lot lower than that

[abstract scaffold]

Interesting..

[fading wyvern]

What happened

[abstract scaffold]

haha just trying to figure out how to set up my 5800x properly in my Bios with a Noctua NH-D15 air cooler

[abstract scaffold]

Hey so will Boost override in PBO advanced make that the maximum? Or will it aim to reach that amount or something? also I know you can set the power limits to use your motherboard under Advanced or something or should I just leave that on default?

[misty gyro]

It'll move the target on the boost algorithm and increase the max

[abstract scaffold]

so it will try to get better overclocks than the default PBO with the max boost set to +150.00?

[misty gyro]

So if you normally hit 5.1ghz single core, it'll try for 5.25ghz

[abstract scaffold]

interesting, i think the max I've seen is usually around 4.8 or 4.9, I saw 5.0 once

but usually the average for PBO default Enabled is like 4.8 i believe

[misty gyro]

As long as there's power and heat headroom

[abstract scaffold]

but i can try like cpu voltage Offset to negative 0.0125v, set the max boost to +150 and I have my DRAM voltage set to 1.35v for the DOCP and just tweak from there until it's stable?

[misty gyro]

I type slow on mobile sorry

[abstract scaffold]

it's all good, trying to get the wife's dang kids in the freakin bath tub at the same time too lol

[misty gyro]

Yeah that's basically how it works for a low effort overclock

In the real world it probably won't hit 5.25 but it'll go higher than before

[abstract scaffold]

haha yeah i don't mind tweaking and testing settings over time, i just can never figure out which of the millions of bios settings to actually touch

hey if it can go above 4.8 or whatever it's box rated boost clock is I'm happy

should i touch the cpu SOC setting at all ?

Mr1111 said on Zen3 i'd want 1.1v vSOC which i assume is the cpu SOC setting

brb good sir

[misty gyro]

That'll help if you get stability issues

Otherwise you can leave it on auto, it's smarter than it used to be

[visual pilot]

1.1v can be helpful with getting fclk stable but it also doesn't hurt

Auto should also be fine if there aren't any issues

[misty gyro]

Ye, I've got mine at 1.125v, it's really touchy too. It gets unstable at 1.175v and won't post.

[visual pilot]

Some also will say 1.05v can help because sometimes there's negative scaling at some point

[abstract scaffold]

yeah i used to just run it at like 1.025v i believe but before that I had it at 1.05v and things were a bit unstable, once i set to auto it was fine but i didn't realize I could just go above 1.05v and it would be fine

[deft lake]

got some questions about my monitor,

i currently have a regular monitor hooked up to an older laptop that has some other issues while my tower is getting repaired.

the display keeps blinking on and off randomly while the monitor attached that is part of the laptop stays on. is the external monitor trying to fail? or is the video card in the laptop trying to fail?

[misty gyro]

It's either the cable or the port, that's the most likely scenario

[deft lake]

i do have a HDMI adapter so the monitor can connect to the laptop, could that connector be failing?

[misty gyro]

Could be that too yeah

[deft lake]

how could i test the adapter?

[abstract scaffold]

Hey @misty gyro so for a negative cpu voltage offset is that the VDDCR CPU or VDDCR SOC Voltage I want to change?

@misty gyro I am setting it to Offset@mode, -, and 0.01250 ?

Only other settings I have changed is DRAM voltage to 1.35v and DOCP for Ram, 3200mhz,

[misty gyro]

VDDCR CPU Voltage, yes.
Looks right to me.

You should see slightly lower temperatures, and you can test different voltages too

[abstract scaffold]

How far would you suggest I keep within for limits?

And should I mess with the VDDCR SOC voltage at all or just leave on Auto? Or mess with that if I get instability.

I’m just curious if I should try under volting more and raising the advanced PBO max boost to 200 to see if it’ll go higher

[misty gyro]

As long as the voltage is below about 1.3v under load, it's fine.
You can test it with Cinebench R23 after each change to see if there's any improvement or regression.

No need to touch SoC if you're not having problems.

[abstract scaffold]

I only have Cinebench R15 single core the free one I believe, no paid version

So the overall cpu voltage staying below 1.3v is fine with PBO enabled? I noticed in Cpu-z the voltage still reaching above 1.4v somewhere I think

[misty gyro]

R23 is free too, if you saw a paid version it was a scam

[abstract scaffold]

Oh interestinggg I’ll check that out soon

[misty gyro]

1.4v on the cores when it's not under load is fine

[abstract scaffold]

What about the voltage when it is under load? Think I’ve seen up to 1.5v default under load I’ll have to check post changes

[misty gyro]

It might spike to 1.5v under an uneven load, a steady load would limit that

[abstract scaffold]

Hmm ok cool, I’ll do some tweaks soon but so far it seems fine with 0.0125v

Will it give better performance if I give it a higher negative offset ?

@misty gyro I have seen some cores post changes go up to 4.975ghz or whatever

About 3 or 4 cores when doing some light stuff which seems good

[misty gyro]

It can give better performance yes, if temps are improved it has more headroom to boost

Yeah that's really good for a few cores

[abstract scaffold]

Yeah I’ll have to try some benchmarking since I have an NH-D15 air cooler with kryonaut paste in a 5 point pattern

I have seen with constant stress tests the cpu get up to 85-90c tho. But real life tests it doesn’t get that hot, tho haven’t tried encoding, etc yet

[misty gyro]

90C would be the limit, so you'd want to keep it under that if possible

[abstract scaffold]

Sounds good, should I set a thermal throttle limit of 90c or 85c or something in bios PBO advanced settings next to the 150mhz boost max ?

Curious if it could use the 200mhz limit max boost or if that’s too high lol

[misty gyro]

Nah that'll just limit performance, 90C is the default anyway

200 might work, but it might be unstable

Mine likes 175

[abstract scaffold]

Ah ok nice

I’ll try 175, stability pretty important for things like streaming or what have you

So if I was going to Oc the Ram can you just keep the DOCP and set it to like 3400mhz or something or would that not work

[misty gyro]

What memory was it again?

[abstract scaffold]

It’s the b die team dark prob cl 14, 14-14-14-31 timings 3200mhz Ram

[misty gyro]

Oh that one, yeah

Set the DOCP on, save and reboot back into bios, then set voltage to 1.5v and speed to 3600. It should be stable still, you can run OCCT memory test to verify.

[abstract scaffold]

I dnno if disabling gear Down mode or power down mode would help stability at all

Ooo okay I’ll try that, never done it before

[misty gyro]

GDM on is good for stability

Power down disabled, alternate enabled is what I usually do

[abstract scaffold]

Not sure I’ve ever seen an alternate enabled before

So overclocking like that def power down mode disabled, got it

[misty gyro]

Sorry I was thinking bank group swap

Power down disable is still good

[abstract scaffold]

And gear down mode enabled. Bank group swap? Huh dnno what that is

[misty gyro]

BGS in some bios

[abstract scaffold]

@misty gyro alright making these changes. Hopefully won’t have to clear the CMOS to fix issues again lol will guess it won’t even turn on >.<

Oh wow Windows loaded up no problem..

@misty gyro nice, it’s running in 3600mhz Ram.. so 1.5v on the DRAM with power down mode disabled will be safe for it to keep this way? I was thinking of buying another 16gb of the same Ram cuz exact model on Amazon is only $113 now (bought it for like $170-180 in 2018 ugh

[misty gyro]

Unless you're doing video editing, large game development, or code compiling you probably don't need 32gb of memory. It'll just put more strain on the memory controller.

Up to about 1.55v is safe for B-die daily use

[abstract scaffold]

niceeee

well i was thinking about doing some video editing/streaming and recording and such, trying to learn the work flow process so 32gb's coulod be good

though with DDR5 right around the corner and the giant leap that will be, getting a new motherboard to put the 5800x and 3070 Ti into might be worth it.

[visual pilot]

I'll recommend this once again since mem oc
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4 OC Guide.md

[abstract scaffold]

ok sweet ill check that out, about to install C R23 and use that to benchmark first

[visual pilot]

afaik cinebench isn't sensitive with ram

gb3 memory test should be decent

[abstract scaffold]

Is there a memory testing software that you recommend I use that's easy ? Or just try anything in the guide

gb3? never heard of that before

[visual pilot]

Geekbench 3

[abstract scaffold]

ooo

[visual pilot]

and then ofc aida64 memory benchmark can be useful

[abstract scaffold]

weird it says in the guide to avoid Aida64

[visual pilot]

?

[abstract scaffold]

"I wouldn't recommend AIDA64 memory test and Memtest64 as they are both not very good at finding memory errors." at the top lol

[visual pilot]

that's the stress testing section

we're talking about benchmarks

[misty gyro]

Aida benchmark is to be avoided because inaccurate

[abstract scaffold]

ohhh

[visual pilot]

aida64 not useful for stress testing

decent for a quick glance at performance

[abstract scaffold]

Ok nice, yeah I'm curious about stability mostly and doing a little benchmarking just to compare how it was before

[misty gyro]

You might have to run it a few times to get a good glance though

[abstract scaffold]

or with tweaked settings, etc

[visual pilot]

eh, aida64 isn't THAT bad