old-monitors-and-tv

[rocky cypress]

Normally you would adjust it in the OS

[errant flax]

i wish to remove the blurring i have lately noticed

[rocky cypress]

Hmm

Blurring?

[errant flax]

text and small details have been blurrier on my monitor as of late

and it's on mine specifically

[rocky cypress]

Do you have clear type enabled in windows

[errant flax]

Let me check

[rocky cypress]

Try switching it to off or on to see if it improves it or makes it worse

[errant flax]

this?

[rocky cypress]

Yeah

[errant flax]

Seems to have helped a little bit

Thank you, @rocky cypress

[rocky cypress]

Np

[errant flax]

For colors

how should I adjust them?

[rocky cypress]

Honestly speaking, I would leave them on default unless you have an hardware colour calibrator that can do it accurately

[errant flax]

alright. only things I have changed are enabling free-sync premium, upped brightness, and disabled gamma.

[rocky cypress]

If you go in the search menu, you could find (I forget the exact name) windows colour calibration tool that does it by eye

[rocky cypress]

Hmm... I suspect disabling gamma may be an issue lmao
Gamma is like a brightness curve of colours or smth (I forget what it does exactly)

[errant flax]

Disabling it helped with clarity.

It was blurring text and every thing

[rocky cypress]

Hmm

Is the gamma setting a slider or a toggle switch

[errant flax]

Toggle

[rocky cypress]

Hmm

[errant flax]

Off, 1.8, 2.2, 2.4

1.8 was okay but had blurring, 2.2-2.4 just made every thing look like a mess.

[rocky cypress]

What about now that clear type is on

[errant flax]

lemme try

mn

rip

screenshot can't capture the difference

Gamma is helping with distinguishing 1 color vs another but has lowered my overall brightness. Blurring is the same

[rocky cypress]

Hmmm

Bad colour accuracy shouldn't be causing blurriness theoretically

It should just look like
Unnatural

[errant flax]

My monitor is about 4 years old now I think?

It's a 24in IPS 1080P 144HZ Pixio.

[rocky cypress]

Like if you have a yellowish lut for a movie or whatever colour lut

I'd try resetting the monitor to factory defaults

I wonder if you somehow changed some setting that would cause this or smith
Honestly have not many ideas on why things would look blurry? Screenshots seem to be in the right resolution

[errant flax]

I restarted the monitor, that helped a little.

Could it just be that my monitor is getting old?

[rocky cypress]

I've never experienced this so probably not

4 years isn't that long for a monitor honestly

[errant flax]

It's been powered pretty much 24/7.

[rocky cypress]

Powered on with an static or moving image?

Or in standby mode most of the time

[errant flax]

I do have my screen set to turn off about 20m of inactivity

[errant flax]

On from usage about 12-14hr a day and standby the rest of the time.

[rocky cypress]

20m should be fine

Maybe I'll try an image retention thing

I forget what the site is called

Trying to find it

https://youtu.be/4RY3v_UazW4?si=kmJHBgGTg0GnyhPM oh well just try this lmao

Basically turns the pixels on and off and hopefully makes it reverse any weird image retention issues

Assuming that it even has occurred

[visual pilot]

this wacky thing prob?
https://www.jscreenfix.com/

[rocky cypress]

Oh I think that was what I was thinking of lol

I guess I was remembering the wrong tool since that only does stuck pixels specifically

It didn't fix my dead pixel though ...
But when I gave my monitor to my friend for free, it fixed itself magically

Probably during transport

Lmao

[visual pilot]

be enginer
whack thing
it fixed

[rocky cypress]

But yeah try running this in full screen for like 20 mins and see if that helped at all

Percussive maintenance somehow works on so many things

[errant flax]

so just play this when I am not at my computer?

[errant flax]

lmao tell me about it. Roky Remotes are an excellent example.

[rocky cypress]

I mean, you could stare at the pattern but it's pretty boring lmao

You don't have to run it everyday, just run it and see if it improves anything

[errant flax]

Gotcha. I will do that once I am off work in a bit.

[errant flax]

@rocky cypress the video thing definitely helped.

Not perfect but it's a noticeable difference.

[rocky cypress]

Colour me moderately surprised

If image retention really is the issue, then run that clearing pattern for longer and see if that resolved the problem

Also you can turn your gamma back on

I think 2.2 is the standard gamma

[errant flax]

Gotcha.

[torpid geode]

how expensive are oled monitors usually? I've seen comparison pictures and I can't help to be intrigued

I probably won't have enough budget for that, but I am still looking for a 27" 1440p +144hz IPS monitor that doesn't break the bank

max budget would be $250-$300 but I'll gladly accept anything way lower that is somewhat recommendable

I've heard about the M27Q by Gigabyte and I wonder if it still is a top pick nowadays

[visual pilot]

Right now, $400 is the cheapest decent oled panel

[torpid geode]

Also would like accurate colors as I do video editing and creative work, and just do casual gaming

[small warren]

If you're good with oled care and avoid constant high brightness, they're second to none

[torpid geode]

$400 for oled is not bad honestly

[small warren]

Lowest they've gone is $300

[torpid geode]

Oled who and the what now? lol

[small warren]

Oled care

So like

Letting the panel refresh itself

Not playing the same game for 10 hours a day without rest

Leaving HDR off most of the time

Making sure to avoid static pictures

[visual pilot]

A refresh cycle is recommended every for 4 hours of continious use, required every like 16-24 hours of continued use

[small warren]

Things like that

[torpid geode]

I'm not that big on HDR, mostly cause I haven't really looked into it but yea

[torpid geode]

so how would you do that?

[visual pilot]

if you just use it on and off, it usually automatically does a cycle when it sleeps and it might not even be noticeable

[small warren]

If these things don't bother you OLED is good, if you worry about burn-in though, Mini-LED is very competitive

[visual pilot]

every 4 hours, it'll have a small popup

[torpid geode]

ah, do you have to turn off the pc? or perhaps just the monitor

[visual pilot]

you can choose to refresh it there and then or choose to put it off and do it manually afterwards

[small warren]

The monitor just needs a couple minutes

[visual pilot]

it takes around 5 minutes

[torpid geode]

oh, honestly fine w that. but it may not be for me as I tend to leave my monitor on for long periods

[visual pilot]

If you want to leave your monitor on all day, mini led va is probably a better option

[torpid geode]

I'll stick to the 27" ips 1440p +144hz options I have for now

[visual pilot]

Mini led options can be pretty cheap
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1784672-REG/acer_um_hxxaa_302_27_wqqhd144hz_va_monitor.html

[torpid geode]

I'd be fine with VA as well, seems more than good compared to my current TN lol

I'll look into mini led as well, the link you sent looks good

[visual pilot]

Mini LED achieves half of the way to OLED using local dimming zones, but without burn in, and still has a little bit of the downside of VA

[torpid geode]

I'll take it over whatever I have currently

yeah it looks great! I'll search up a few more options, this one is good

[small warren]

Is this the xv275u p3

Cos that one has been an amazing $190 on B&H for a while now

[visual pilot]

Yea

[small warren]

Very very good monitor for the price, head and shoulders above anything else in it's price category

[visual pilot]

connectivity isn't great but it's doable

[small warren]

No other alternative exists at sub 200 afaik

[torpid geode]

yeah pretty much

[small warren]

I think the I/O loss is a huge gain for the screen itself

I'll always advocate a good i/o but it's an amazing price for what it is

[visual pilot]

only dp 1.2 lol

[torpid geode]

what's up with its connectivity?

[visual pilot]

but yea it's doable

[torpid geode]

ah, what about it?

[small warren]

Cheaper parts = cheaper price

It helps it be cheaper

So they'll be making money at $190

Nothing wrong with the connectivity options as long as you hit the bandwidth limits

[torpid geode]

well how would I exceed bandwidth limits?

[visual pilot]

It's just that you don't get enough bandwidth to do 10 bit color

[small warren]

You can't is my point

[small warren]

4:4:4?

If so then meh

Not really a loss

[visual pilot]

and iirc hdmi 2.0 only does up to around 1440p144 with 8 bit color

can do 1440p170 over dp 1.2 with 8 bit though

not that it's a big difference

[torpid geode]

I mean, I would be asking too much for 10 bit but thinking about it yeah it'd be something good to have. though I haven't really cared too much on color depth

for now my goal is pretty much just upgrade my monitor to be set for at least 3 years, then until I have some income I'll save and invest on good screen

until then I'll wait for newer releases and just cop the acer one 🤷‍♂️

[small warren]

I use qled

Which is like

A step down from mini led?

Paid good money for it years ago

I think it's excellent for what it is, I still daily it

I think mini-led would last you that long

At least by then you could probably afford oled for 200

And they'd likely be much better

[torpid geode]

yeah pretty much

that's the strat for now

[small warren]

For clarification btw qled is like mini led, but it uses many zones, not individual LEDs

Similar but not quite the same

[torpid geode]

yeah I've researched a bit in the past, should refresh myself on em though

as long as it's better than my old tn i got nothing to complain about lmao

thanks a lot techies I appreciate it much

[rocky cypress]

Afaik miniled does use zones, but the zones can be smaller or bigger depending on which price category the display is competing in

Qled is as far as I can tell, doesn't have to do with how big the local dimming zones are, but is a LCD display with a quantum dot sublayer for better colour accuracy and contrast ratio

[small warren]

Dunno who this helps but a small PSA

Old AOC monitors on the low end used terrible manufacturing glue

24G2 is a common one for this, the screen commits self-delaminate

Just in case we end up discussing one for some reason

(Are they even still in retail?)

[olive lily]

Anyone know if the 57" Odyssey Neo G9 is Gsync compatible?

[rocky cypress]

Nvidia gpus support freesync

Aka VESA adaptive sync

[small warren]

It does indeed

Those samsung monitors also ship with free monitor cracking and a refused warranty if it happens

https://www.rxddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/zsszrb/update_2_conclusion_regarding_my_broken_samsung/

[rocky cypress]

[small warren]

Here's a compilation of them all cracking

Samsung says "User error"

I'd pick something else personally

[olive lily]

Wow I didn't know that, that's awesome

[past spoke]

https://a.co/d/hgHlkmQ
Thoughts on this as a second monitor to replace my old one?

Old one is around the same size but 75hz and I can't use a monitor stand with it.

being able to use a monitor stand is the main reason I want it, I don’t want anything over the top as in for gaming or anything else

[errant edge]

https://computers.woot.com/offers/msi-pro-mp253p-24-5-ips-monitor

Id grab that

[olive lily]

After much research. These 2 monitors is what I'm considering. Any comments, problems, pointers is welcome. Note: I originally wanted a 4k OLED Curved Monitor, but the Odyssey Neo G9 52" was too large for my desk.

[small warren]

Yeah a few tbh

Here's a compilation of them cracking under their own weight and heat:
https://www.rxddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/zsszrb/update_2_conclusion_regarding_my_broken_samsung/

Samsung won't honor the warranty if this happens to you btw

They'll say it's user error even though this happens a lot

The design of the later models post-neo are suspect to these issues since the panels get very hot on top of already being heavy and secured at just one point

Creates a huge amount of flexing with the panel cantilevering off both sides, and one day they just literally start cracking before someone's eyes

A little googling finds that many people who buy these talk about (I'm impressed I can even say this) this panel basically being a lottery to get a genuinely good one

I would avoid any that aren't the original QLED variety imo

We know of a few "lottery" type skus in the pc space just like this, especially with SSD's, they're just plain "Avoid" tier

[small warren]

I should note that this isn't officially a widespread issue on the OLED specifically, however the OLED and QD-OLED variants also produce a lot of heat, and people have already been talking about symptoms like the "popping", so I wouldn't consider them personally since they don't inspire confidence knowing that

[olive lily]

Thank you @small warren... I'll probably go with Asus then. Helps that most of my core components are Asus. Hopefully they won't pull a Samsung on the monitors

[small warren]

I love that you were listening but I guess this part also needs explaining

Lol

The asus is the samsung but rebranded

If the mounting system looks a lot better though....then maybe you'll be potentially more ok...

I'd still call those sus personally cos it's mounted at one point

[olive lily]

Ooof

[small warren]

If you want a big 49", the old QLED G9 non-neo did 1440p 240hz

And that didn't have issues

It was nice too, QLED

[olive lily]

Hmmm the G9 has a PPI of 110 VS Asus of 108

[small warren]

The older non-neos didn't have the crack issue

So that's the only real reason why I'm saying it

Otherwise, go with a 4K 42"?

[olive lily]

I think thus is the non Neo

[small warren]

Nope, the oleds are newer

[rocky cypress]

A difference of 2 is pretty much imperceptible

[small warren]

They're effectively in the same boat

And the oled/qd-oleds are already reporting similar symptoms

(The fabled "popping")

They also exhibit as much if not more heat than the neo variants

I'm pretty much saying it's all but confirmed these big 49" will have issues at some point

The only truly vetted ones are the older QLED types

Which btw, still nearly impossible to drive with a gpu

They're still ridiculous

[olive lily]

Ya I'm waiting on the 50 series before I upgrade my 3090

[small warren]

If you're considering one of those be prepared for a price jump

That's another "all but confirmed" situation

[olive lily]

Ya, going to have to sit and stare at my phone to buy on lunch

[small warren]

My personal take on this, uwqhd is...not unreasonable for a 5090, however

A 4K oled, normal 16:9

Much more screen real estate

Much easier to run

No problems like outlined

You just remember standard oled care and it's even cheaper iirc

Much nicer personally, considering I've tried all this

You can use the screen management to split everything up so well and coordinated too, just like if you had several screens

Some support pbp which means you can split screen

No end to good things about them imo

[olive lily]

Sorry I'm pretty much set on to 1 of these 2 monitors

[small warren]

I'm serious lol, like compared to the looming risk of the screen literally fissuring like the rapture

Those big tvs are just plain bigger, easier, better

I mean suit yourself if you're dead set, just remember they crack and "pop", very dodgy

[olive lily]

Will purchase a heavy duty mount

[small warren]

And samsung in particular won't honor that

[small warren]

Moun them at both corners underneath to the desk would help a lot

So 3 points instead of 1

That's about the best you could make do of the situation cos the single point will still cause bad flex

[olive lily]

Like mounts that just holds it up?

[small warren]

Mhm

[olive lily]

Might be difficult cause of the curve

[small warren]

If you hear any popping at all, I'd immediately warranty/return

Not worth trying to persist with these if it comes to that

[olive lily]

Think the prices will go up after the holidays?

[small warren]

Yes

[olive lily]

Dang

[small warren]

Also think they'll unveil a new generation of it

Good chance

Usually happens yearly

[olive lily]

When did they last come out?

[small warren]

That one may even have the fix

About...2 years ago?

Actially

Bi yearly

Just occurred to me the older ones are nearly 4 years wth

Lol

[olive lily]

Hmm I might just wait then. Since I don't have a strong enough GPU

[small warren]

Samsung revealed their last new gen G9 at the XTX event

[indigo berry]

I just got the Amazon Basics fhd 165Hz ips monitor for 80€ and I must say it is crazy good value

[fossil gust]

Just snagged a Koorui 24E3 for $50 off FB marketplace

nothing wrong with it as far as I can tell

should be a solid upgrade from my brother's 75hz crappy IPS

[olive lily]

Anyone have suggestions for Samsung G9 49" Desk Mount?

Currently Considering: https://www.amazon.com/Secretlab-Magnus-Monitor-Heavy-Duty/dp/B0DF7S2NXV

[rocky cypress]

The monitor is a little bit over 20lbs

There are a bunch of cheaper options that can handle that

Oh wait neo g9

34lbs it seems

[olive lily]

Not sure if its the Neo, but ya I've heard its heavy

[rocky cypress]

E.g. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRVB3VGL

Appears to have decent reviews

[olive lily]

I don't think that can work. I've seen review's where they complain about Heavy Duty mounts saging

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okctPJK0d6w

[rocky cypress]

You'll likely have to do a bit of deeper searching

50" ultrawide monitors are quite a rare thing

[olive lily]

Yes, Yes they are and I got mine for Under $1K

with a *Free * Samsung 990 Pro 2TB

[misty gyro]

Both of which are known to die spontaneously

[olive lily]

Sorry @misty gyro the Price and Free 990 Pro was too tempting

The Asus model has it for $1500

[rocky cypress]

How much was "under 1k" anyways

[misty gyro]

I hope for your sake that Samsung takes your warranty claim(s) because they're known to decline

[olive lily]

$963.89 With Taxes

[olive lily]

Me too, but luckily I haven't really seen bad reviews for it.

[rocky cypress]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tRHqqs/samsung-odyssey-g9-g93sc-490-5120-x-1440-240-hz-curved-monitor-ls49cg932snxza this?

[olive lily]

No Sir

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/oled-monitor/49-odyssey-oled-g9-g91sd-dual-qhd-144hz-0-03ms-curved-gaming-monitor-ls49dg910snxza/

This is the same version but 144Hz Vs 240Hz

[rocky cypress]

Hmm

Couldn't really find a good price history but tbh $250 off a 1.2k monitor isn't really a tempting deal for a monitor with a history of killing itself

[olive lily]

It's the best offer I can find at this size. I was originally opting for the Asus, but it was around $1,500.

[rocky cypress]

Why do you want an ultra wide monitor

You could get a pretty good tv for a similar price

[olive lily]

Primarily for Gaming and Ya I was also considering the LG Flex

[rocky cypress]

Would even have more monitor space

Gaming doesn't really work on ultrawide though

Most games don't really know what to do for it lmao

[olive lily]

Not all Titles, but future titles will mostly support it

[rocky cypress]

That's what they said like a decade ago

[olive lily]

Plus I got the $$$ to burn.. lol

Oh playing Space Games like Star Citzen on Ultra Wide is amazing

[rocky cypress]

I'll be honest, burning money on a nice tv or home theater setup would make a bit more sense than an ultrawide monitor lmao

[olive lily]

Yaa.. already have those covered

[rocky cypress]

Always are improvements

[olive lily]

I'm suprised I'm not using my LG C1 as my monitor

I tend to just use my Monitor with PC

[rocky cypress]

You could have done that instead yeah

[olive lily]

Yaa. dk why.. I'm weird I guess

[rocky cypress]

There is definitely a reason why even Linus managed to figure out that a tv worked better than using an ultrawide

[olive lily]

65" 4K OLED Vs 50" 2K Monitor.. No competition

[rocky cypress]

The CEO of bad financial decisions: Mr Linus Sebastian

[olive lily]

I just gotta have the best things I guess

[rocky cypress]

The best but also cost/effort cutting

Always ends up biting himself in the ass

Lmao

[olive lily]

Ya I do agree, but hey it's a better addiction than the alternatives

[rocky cypress]

It's not too late to cancel or refund the monitor and switch to getting a tv instead

[olive lily]

Already got the TV lol

[rocky cypress]

You would get quite a bit more screen for your money

You could get another tv to use as a monitor

[olive lily]

LG Flex was the closest, i think the price is what trough me away or Specs

Oh ya it was the price

[rocky cypress]

If you insist on the ultrawide, I can't stop you, but I do believe that a tv would be often be better value for your money to use as a computer monitor of significant size

[olive lily]

a 42" LG Flex is $1,600

[olive lily]

Oh no Doubt. I've already done it a few times. but I seem to use the monitor the most. Only time I use the TV is for Movies and PS5

I do appreciate you looking out for me, but I really do want an Ultra Wide for my Games. Now I just hope this monitor isn't broken and won't brake from the weight for a long time.

[rocky cypress]

Yeah hopefully there won't be issues

[small warren]

Don't worry 343

I've already been over this

[rocky cypress]

Well, more importantly, if there are any issues, even if unrelated to it breaking itself, you manage to get Samsung support to RMA

[small warren]

As I mentioned myself, samsung just has a really dodgy service

You pay for the "Apple that isn't apple" brand and product but then you don't get the service like apple gives for support or warranty

[rocky cypress]

https://testufo.com/rtings

Rtings and blur Busters worked together and now the rtings standardized test pattern is public

[prime sun]

Best <200 mini-LED atm?

Ive seen a lot of em going around but finally want to pull the trigger

[errant edge]

acer nitro xv275u p3 only mini led under $250 afaik

that doesn't have panel failure issues, cough cough cooler master

[prime sun]

How is it in terms of quality?

Eh if its the general recommended im sure its fine

Ill grab it for sure then, appreciate it

[errant edge]

felix knows more abt it than me

from what someone else told me, it's good until youre getting less than 120hz

[prime sun]

Ghosting?

[errant edge]

I'm not sure, I'd probably look at a review between the two

i have the AOC one and only have good things to say

well, except viewing angle, but that's meh on any VA panel

[prime sun]

How much is that atm

[errant edge]

$250

[prime sun]

Idc bout viewing angles so no worry

[prime sun]

Does the price fluctuate at all?

[errant edge]

i got mine at $280, but technichally only $160 or so outta pocket

[prime sun]

Ill check on pcpart

[errant edge]

it's alr $30 off, it's still a new release and we haven't seen it lower

[prime sun]

Id be fine paying a bit more if the quality dif was worth

[errant edge]

I'd love to be able to suggest this, but it has widespread panel failure https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tempest-Quantum-FreeSync/dp/B0CX6M86JM/ref=sr_1_4?

[prime sun]

If its too good to be true, it probably is

I live by that quote lol

[errant edge]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/405387666859?

[prime sun]

Oo that looks good

[prime sun]

Any issues you have with this monitor?

[errant edge]

none whatsoever, you gotta mess with settings a bit but that's any monitor

[prime sun]

Im fine messing with settings

Is the hdr good?

[errant edge]

hdr is absolutely amazing on it

[prime sun]

Awesome to hear

Im excited to get off ips lol

[errant edge]

i upgraded from the hp x27q, and the difference in hdr is like night and day

almost as big of a difference as going from 1080p 165hz va to the x27q

[prime sun]

Im curious how it compares to the oled on my phone

Ik it wont be true blacks but

Seeing some mixed reviews online on the color? Guess its not a very plug and play HDR

[fossil gust]

Also bad firmware iirc

[errant edge]

Thats any monitor though

And it was pretty easy for me to adjust settings

[fossil gust]

I think HDR on windows can sometimes just be weird no matter the monitor

[prime sun]

We love windows

Is the standard yet still struggles to operate like one

[prime sun]

@small warren sorry to ping ya 😭 think you could give me your opinion here?

[small warren]

?

[small warren]

What do

[prime sun]

Two monitors

[prime sun]

Dis one

Oop sorry for pinging

Forgot to turn it off rip

[prime sun]

And the nitro

Is the extra money worth it?

[small warren]

For maybe $20?

Not much more

The P3 is really good as is, if you don't need I/O ofc

[prime sun]

so theres no difference in panel quality?

[small warren]

There is

But not 250 worth vs 200

220 vs 200, yeah ok

[prime sun]

Its 225 for me

[small warren]

Ok not bad

I'd go either or

Pick on emotion

Lmao

[prime sun]

Lol im fine with a bit more extra spent

I just want to know if its an even noticable difference

Ill just get the 225

Thank you felix

[small warren]

Again, there is

[prime sun]

✨

[small warren]

Lol

But like

Both are parity value at those prices

So pick on what you'd prefer

Little better for little more? Or raw value lowest entry

Pick on emotion

[prime sun]

The emotions have settled

[small warren]

Both choices are correct

Lol

[elder scaffold]

Replacement for MAG274QRF-QD: My one monitor went dead. I'm trying to figure out if I should swap it out for something else, an E2 or see if I can find remaining stock somewhere.

[errant edge]

From what felix mentioned to me, the e2 has panel issues

This is very nice
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7QsV3C/acer-nitro-xv275u-p3-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-umhxxaa302

And this is a step up
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kJP8TW/aoc-q27g3xmn-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-q27g3xmn

If you're looking for cheaper, then this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d

[elder scaffold]

Thanks. Who is AOC? Not heard of them before.

[prime sun]

Hows the vrr flicker?

On the aoc

Oh also i cant find anywhere that says if its gloss or matte

[rocky cypress]

they use the same panels as most other larger companies, and are generally pretty good for the price

[knotty oasis]

Hello! Anyone good with TVs? Im looking to get a new TV for my loft and I was wondering if any of these tvs are good and what one I should get.

• https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CY4TQ91Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (Hisense U8 Series 55U8N 55-Inch ULED 4K Smart TV)
• https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CZMC1YXY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (TCL 55-Inch Q65 QLED 4K UHD Smart TV with Google TV)
• https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CZML9HLC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (TCL 55-Inch QM7 QLED 4K Smart QD-Mini LED TV with Google TV)

[rocky cypress]

this is going to be a really niche question but is anybody familiar with the BBC micro (model b)'s display? do you know of any adapters that can change some relatively modern standard of video output (e.g. composite) and turn it into whatever digital RGB signals it uses, or any useful information on how the signaling works?
so far i know the digital signals go between 0v and 5v, the pinout of the connector, and that it's digital lmao

i have a friend that wants to revive a monitor for fun

http://www.8bs.com/boards/BBCBschematicJTribbeck.png

this is the schematic for the bbc micro

dont have anything for the display

that i could find anyways

[olive lily]

Odyssey G9 49" Installed

Night view

[errant flax]

Have there been any UHD OLED monitors within $500 lately?

[small warren]

Not anything worth buying

[errant flax]

Or WQHD.

[small warren]

You could get a used LG C1 or C2 for maybe $600

[errant flax]

What do you mean?

Also any oled I feel would be a tremendous improvement over my $120 24" FHD Pixio monitor haha.

[small warren]

Well 4K only makes sense on OLED due to the clarity beyond 32 inches

Like 0% improvement unless you have eyesight good enough to fly as an airforce pilot

So 1440p is the play for a monitor generally speaking

If you want 4K get a TV sized screen for an oled monitor

And even then I can't really vet those completely due to burn in

[errant flax]

Burn in is still an issue even with the screen refreshers?

[small warren]

Yes

Rn I can vet the 1440p 240hz OLED/QD-OLED screens

Or the 1440p UWQHD 34" 165+Hz QD-OLEDs

The rest aren't vetted for long term burn in testing at this stage

[errant flax]

I'd really like to get better clarity so I am undecided if I should go 4K 32" for clarity or QHD 27" for speed.

[small warren]

Again, 0% difference in clarity at OLED 1440p 32"

[errant flax]

By clarity I mean like being able to see the pixels.

I am able to spot pixels on my monitor despite having my head about 3.5-4ft away. Same for laptop screens.

[small warren]

Again

0% difference

[errant flax]

So 32" or under there is no difference in clarity just color and response time?

Also brb

[small warren]

No there's no difference at all unless you have extremely good eyesight

That's what I keep trying to say

On OLED the screen is so much more clean and fluid the difference is even harder to notice pixels vs a different panel type

[errant flax]

Hmm alright.

I am trying to find a nice OLED screen within $599 on Amazon.

[small warren]

KTC OLED

AOC also has a decent one

27" 1440p 240hz

Both

[errant flax]

I plan to get a monitor then buy a psu along with the 5090 unless a good PSU sale comes up sooner

[small warren]

Ok don't buy a 5090 unless you go for a big 4K screen

That's actually a waste of gpu

You'll never use it

By the time that makes sense on 1440p the market will have gone through 2 generations and you could buy a mid range gpu to lap it by then

Even the 4090 is overkill for most of anything unless you make really good money out of your daily render work

[errant flax]

Isn't the 4090 barely able to do 140fps on QHD ultra with no dlss?

[small warren]

No???

Whoever told you that both doesn't own a 4090 and doesn't do their settings properly

[errant flax]

Ray tracing enabled

I forgot to mention that

[small warren]

As a 4090 owner I'm telling you

That it's hard for me to even reach 4K 60 in most situations

Which is akin to near 1440p 100

I'm most of the time at 120fps

So with that in mind let me clarify

A 5090 is a waste for two specific reasons

#1 it's a massive bottleneck for 1440p

Like you won't use all the gpu regardless

The cpu is going to bottleneck it that much

The 4090 has this issue

Both the 7800X3D and 13900K demonstrate this problem thoroughly

#2 the pure power is way beyond the weight of that class of performance

Some techniques that are game changing for your experience

Go look up DF guides for games

Optimise per game

Don't just slap max settings

Max settings often makes no significant difference and they throw a lot of extra in that doesn't do anything to the visual fidelity

[misty gyro]

Even then it's probably not really worth it because of compression artifacts. Most 4k165+ monitors don't have full bandwidth DP ports and HDMI can't handle it so you need to use DSC.

[small warren]

That too

Oh but btw

The newer ones use two ports

[misty gyro]

(plus the GPUs don't have full bandwidth ports)

[small warren]

They bypassed the limit by just using 2 ports now

So less screens you can use

But I can very confidently tell you from 1st hand experience

Anyone saying the 4090 is a 1440p card either doesn't own one or has some absolutely ridiculous standard

[misty gyro]

The person saying that probably also never saw the 7900 XTX beat it in CoD

[small warren]

Likely didn't yeah lol

The 9800X3D can like

kinda

Saturate a 4090 at 1440p

So good luck fitting an extra 50% more cuda cores into that bottleneck lmao

It's just highly unrealistic

[errant flax]

I get your points.

[small warren]

If you really want a 5090 go get a 42"+ screen lol

That will genuinely give you a real experience and you will make proper use of the hardware

[errant flax]

I am trying to decide between 3440x1440 34" or a 4K 32" screen depending on which I can get within $600

[small warren]

You might get a 34" QD-OLED in 600

AW3423DWF

[errant flax]

I know MSI also has one

[small warren]

If you paired that with a 9800X3D you could kinda saturate a 4090 somewhat well

Still way under what a 5090 will be able to do

You buy the monitor to suit the gpu, either can bottleneck the other

And we don't talk bottlenecks around here, but this is a genuine case of it

[misty gyro]

In a case of extremes like this it's like buying an aventador and only using it for grocery shopping

[errant flax]

Quick question. How does 21:9 affect recordings? I know in softwares like OBS and others I can set a custom resolution but I am wondering like does that mean I will need to put my game into a 16:9 aspect as well?

[small warren]

You get either stretched or black bars if you stream or upload

Some softwares let you set the aspect ratio

But if it's gaming you get the ui cut off

[errant flax]

So I will need to tell the game what resolution to run at then gotcha.

[small warren]

You'd need to run the game at 16:9 yes

Which invalidates the exercise no?

[errant flax]

How does that look on a ultra wide?

[small warren]

Two sides are just black

More black bars

The best way to do ultrawide recording in my experience

Do triple display

Bypass the middle one with the capture card

But even then you still get ui issues

The safest bet is always just a normal 16:9

Least trouble

[errant flax]

I need to go cook now but I will read what you are saying when I come back.

[olive lily]

I'll do it for the ladies...

[misty gyro]

What ladies? The single moms carting their toddlers around the grocery store?

[olive lily]

As long as their 🔥 😆

[small warren]

I didn't know ladies existed in the pc enthusiast space...

News to me

Lmfao

[olive lily]

They do virtually

[small warren]

Virtually existing but not actually existing doesn't count

Rarer than a pot of gold

[olive lily]

@small warren I plan to buy a 5090 or 5080 to pair with the 9800x3d and my 49" 1440P OLED. Will I still be bottlenecked?

[small warren]

Not on that screen

Though I wish you luck it doesn't crack down the middle

You really should support the sides

[olive lily]

You did

I purchased a heavy duty mount from secret labs

[small warren]

Did you support the screen from the corners tho

Like not cantilevering

[olive lily]

Seen a YouTube review for it and he hasn't had issues

[small warren]

Not enough imo

Allow me to draw what I mean

[olive lily]

I'll need to look at supports that will work for me right now it should be alright

[misty gyro]

You know what they say about women on the Internet...

[olive lily]

I don't 😆

[small warren]

You could also do it halfway along

But it's basic physics you definitely should do this to protect the display

[olive lily]

Yup I get you. I'll look for something estheticly pleasing. Hoping Corsair might have some accessories that can work

[misty gyro]

Well the saying is that women don't exist on the Internet, and anyone claiming to be one is a man on the other side of that screen

[small warren]

Fr

[small warren]

I got nothing against an odyssey at the end of the day btw

I just vastly reject these screens from the cracking unless they're cared for properly

Nothing is more scary than samsung turning around and saying "You broke it, no warranty" on a 1500 dollar monitor

Because that's what they do

[olive lily]

Understood and thank you for pointing it out. I'll definitely look for something

[small warren]

Awesome

[olive lily]

Hmm maybe some small cheap speakers

[small warren]

That could work

[olive lily]

Are there actually accessories for supporting ultra wide screens?

[small warren]

Uh

I'm not sure tbh

Propping it up with speakers is a good idea tho

Measure the height you roughly need

Buy to that and use rtings and reviews to work out if they're nice

Buy on that

You get sound and a stand

Inexpensive idea with utility

I like it

[olive lily]

I probably won't use the speakers for sound, but if it looks good I'll use it just for the looks and support

[misty gyro]

Hmm I could really use some speakers too. Monitor speakers just aren't loud enough.

[small warren]

I have speakers I don't use

But they're handy when I do

[misty gyro]

Now that my kids like to play on my computer and watch me play, I have to use the monitor speakers instead of my headset.

[small warren]

Portable speakers can be nice

JBL, Sonos? There's a few decent picks

Rom knows the good ones

Ask her

[misty gyro]

My wife has one I can borrow but it'll only connect through bluetooth, I don't think it has an aux port

Besides onboard audio is a PITA

[small warren]

Don't you have a dac you can pair to?

[misty gyro]

I guess I could run it through my monitor and plug into that

The only dac I have is the one that came with my cloud II

[small warren]

You deserve a dac lol

[misty gyro]

I deserve a lot of things I can't afford

[olive lily]

Ohh I think i might go with this option instead.

Provides a cabinet space under the monitor

[small warren]

If you can make it look nice sure

[small warren]

The specifics of what goes under doesn't really matter as long as that monitor is supported yeah

[olive lily]

I can place it right under and it would look normal

This might just be it

Too tall... but I like this idea better

[small warren]

[olive lily]

That picture is trying to tell me something

[misty gyro]

Is it "photoshopping your product into pictures makes your product look bad"?

[olive lily]

I'm a dummy. I can just easily mount the desk bracket lower and sit the monitor on top of the riser...

[surreal quarry]

Using HDR
how do I fix something like this where when I look at the sky or something bright everything gets darker

I tried to calibrate using the windows HDR calibration but this still happens

[misty gyro]

That'll be in your monitor settings, look for something like automatic brightness leveling

[surreal quarry]

i think the setting is disabled in hdr on pg42uq

could i calibrate my brightness to a lower amount (200 nits??) in the windows hdr calibration tool?

[turbid star]

HDR requires full brightness

If you set it the HDR won't be HDR

It'd just be sRGB or whatever

But I guess you can try

HDR is just still not well implemented on most things

[surreal quarry]

ah ok

is the implementation about the monitor or the game?

[fossil gust]

Some games have a feature like that

Meant to simulate how your eyes adjust to light

That looks like something else though, or a really borked implementation

[rocky cypress]

both ish
monitor firmware needs to support it (as well as the display being good enough to properly display HDR)
game also needs to support it (the content needs to be mastered for HDR in order to give the monitor the information required to display HDR)

alot of HDR monitors can't actually display even a fraction of what the content is mastered for (hdr10 monitors pretty much always just means that it's not worth using)

you want something certified by vesa to be sure

[cerulean mountain]

how long would you all recommend waiting to power on a monitor that was in 20 degree weather for like 6 hours. Its an old CRT monitor and its condensating like crazy.

[gilded aurora]

Okay i got a very big strange issue lol- im using the gigabyte m27qx monitor on eft but when i use full screen it runs like crap when i use bordleess it does the same but feels sorta better but when i use a 144hz 1080p on eft the game runs smooth lol like wtf is going on

[rocky cypress]

Probably at least 48 hours if it's getting that much condensation

Assuming that it was in the car previously, I honestly probably would have used the car heat + ac on to warm it up without the tv being at the dew point

Which then would have made it safe to bring inside with minimal risk of condensation

[fading wyvern]

What kinda gpu do you have

1440p is pretty hard to run

3.6m pixels versus 2m

[gilded aurora]

4080 super

[fading wyvern]

Welp that’s weird, add a framerate cap, odd question what kinda mouse do you have

Specifically is it a 8k hz mouse

[bright silo]

Hello I'm looking to get a new monitor. I'm thinking 240hz ips because I'm afraid to get oled due to possible burn in

Any recommendations?

[visual pilot]

What's your budget?

[visual pilot]

And what will you be using it for? Current OLED panels are very resistant to burn in for most uses

[severe depot]

Do you guys know of any 4k 144hz oleds, I’m looking to upgrade to an oled but im only finding 4k 240hz and I don’t really care about high framerate

[fossil gust]

Little late but is this maybe a bad display cable? Like it isn't able to fully support 1440p165 but can do 1080p144 fine?

[small warren]

Really only worth it for big TVs tbh

[severe depot]

like oled itself is only worth it for tvs? or 4k 240? I saw my friends oled and i liked it more than the 4k monitor I have now

[fading wyvern]

I know a ton of 4k 120hz tvs

Oled is great in general think he means there’s no decent value deals for 4k oled atm

[severe depot]

yeah ik im hoping the new ones push prices down for older models

I missed all the holiday sales so now everything is back up again

[fading wyvern]

I’m not actually sure if they are manufacturing anything less then 240hz atm

[severe depot]

yeah its just my 4090 has like a black flickering issue with dsc that i could never fix so i wouldnt be able to use the full 240hz and I don't usually get 240fps at 4k anyways

[small warren]

Ok well having a 4090 at least justifies more than basic 1440p

But using a normal 27" would be completely pointless for 4K

[severe depot]

I have a 32inch 4k right now I just wanted a 4k oled

[fading wyvern]

Just looked over rtings oled list, the lowest hz besides lg tvs is 175 in ultrawides

Gunna have to do a 240hz

[severe depot]

but like realistically I don't need more than 4k 144hz

damn

[small warren]

OLED masks the clarity difference quite well so it's very hard to notice the difference to 1440p at 32"

So really the best choices imo would be a 34" uwqhd qd oled

[severe depot]

oh like the alienware one?

[small warren]

Or a 42"+ 4K

Yea

The aw3423dwf is like the only mildly justifiable 1440p display for a 4090

But it's also a monitor size

Otherwise 42"+ 4K just makes perfect sense

[fading wyvern]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/msi/mpg-341cqpx-qd-oled <-rtings pick for ultrawide

[small warren]

Essentially the same thing

[fading wyvern]

Yeah just giving them an idea

[severe depot]

do oyu guys think like ultra wide 1440p vs 4k at 32inch is a noticeable differene

[fading wyvern]

$700 on Amazon ain’t bad atm

[small warren]

I can't tell the difference myself

And I have 1st hand experience

[severe depot]

my friend had the aw3423dwf and i liked it but idk if like 4k oled vs 1440p oled is noticeable

[fading wyvern]

It’s just pixel density

Forget what the ppi is

[small warren]

I can barely notice any pixels at 43" sitting 2.5ft away from my face lol

My vision is pretty good too, and I'm on QLED which is more noticeable for screen door

[severe depot]

I'll probably get the aw3423dwf then cause its one sale still on amazon too

[fading wyvern]

It’s about 138 pixels per inch in a 4k 32in vs 110 in a ultrawide

[small warren]

The thing is even if you can even notice a mild difference, the fact that games run so much easier anyway more than makes up for it

[fading wyvern]

It’s a bit less then you’d be use to

[small warren]

A 4090 is a 4K card imo, but uwqhd can be justified somewhat

[severe depot]

I didn't really notice a big difference on my friends like I do between my old 1080p monitor

[small warren]

Oh yeah 1080p is easily noticeable

For 4K tho I can't tell to 1440p

Like really almost at all on <32"

Which really you can just sit a little further away and it's fine

OLED makes it even harder to notice

[severe depot]

yeah thats the only thing holding me back is the 4k i do kinda want i feel like if i go down to 2k I'd want like a higher refresh rate i may get that 2k 500hz monitor they just released

[fading wyvern]

You have any local friends or like a Best Buy you can check out some monitors at?

[severe depot]

I know like optimum said it was like looking through a window

Yeah i have a bestbuy nearby i can check out

[fading wyvern]

Yeah just head in sometime, 1440p is plenty good

(IMO)

[small warren]

This is exactly my first impression

[severe depot]

do you have like a 360hz + monitor?

[fading wyvern]

I do

[small warren]

But don't consider 1440p a downgrade if you literally can't tell

[severe depot]

in this case would you go 2k 500hz oled over like a 4k 240hz

[fading wyvern]

I have a good old 1440p qd oled 360hz

[small warren]

Going over 240 makes no sense for 99.99% of people

Including that dummy above

Lol

[severe depot]

yeah ik i barely noticed 240hz when i had it on a 1080p, but hearing its like looking through a window does sound appealing

[fading wyvern]

It was the best deal for the best rated monitor

[small warren]

OLED in general looks like this

500hz isn't needed

[severe depot]

oh I thought it was exclusive to the high refresh rate

[small warren]

Still won't convince me

[fading wyvern]

Well the minimum you can buy Felix is 120hz in a 43in tv

[small warren]

Yes

And that's good

Remember lads, cable bandwidth limits exist

[fading wyvern]

Moving from there you jump to 175hz ultrawides normal size monitors start at 240hz

[small warren]

Do you want your screen to have over 30% dsc

[fading wyvern]

And they were the same price

[small warren]

Cos you will actually see a difference if you have that much dsc

[severe depot]

yeah I was planning on selling my 4090 when the 50 series released just to get the new display port

[small warren]

Basically no monitors on the market use the new dp yet

[fading wyvern]

Dsc ain’t nuffin

[small warren]

What some use are dual ports

[severe depot]

Oh i didn't know you could do that

[small warren]

So even if you buy now you're still capped

[small warren]

Say that again when your 4K looks like 1080p

[fading wyvern]

I already watch all my YouTube videos in 1080p

[small warren]

We also need to establish something here

[fading wyvern]

It looks like 480i

[small warren]

240hz oled looks like ~540hz anything else

So like

[severe depot]

oh i didn't know that

[small warren]

165+hz is going to look good regardless

[fading wyvern]

Yeah the pixel response time is insane

[severe depot]

is dsc actually that bad i havent used it yet ive just been using hdmi 2.1

[fading wyvern]

No ghosting

[small warren]

It really is, also use dp 1.4a

Dp still better

[severe depot]

yeah i used dp 1.4a but my screen would go black for like 2-3 seconds randomly and switiching cables didn;t fix it

[small warren]

Sounds like hdr

[fading wyvern]

Huh maybe a bad port

[severe depot]

but switching to hdmi stopped it so i just stopped using it

[small warren]

Or cheap cable

Cheap cables cause random black screen

Or dying ones

[severe depot]

I used the cable from msi and then bought an invanky one off of amazon

no it was like the second month of having the monitor

[fading wyvern]

That’s true, like you said hdr can cause that when switching apps

[small warren]

Sounds like a dead cable then

[small warren]

If there's one thing I've seen almost the whole gamut of it's cables

[severe depot]

no i mean like i tried switching cables and it didnt resolve the issue

[small warren]

The one I'm missing is fire

I haven't had that yet

Got close last month

[severe depot]

but ill try turning off hdr but like it would just flicker black mid game without switching apps

[small warren]

That's definitely is a bad cable or port

[fading wyvern]

Sounds like a bad connection somewhere

[severe depot]

i know in some games when you alt tab you can expect a black screen but i would just be playing a game and lose signal in only that monitor

[small warren]

Def cable or port

I am like 95% confident lol

[fading wyvern]

I back that statement

[severe depot]

I'm pretty sure its the port i just dont know if its on the monitor or the gpu

and im praying its not on the gpu

[small warren]

Well you got 3 dp ports on the gpu

[fading wyvern]

[small warren]

Only one way to find out

[fading wyvern]

Plenty of options

[severe depot]

i read a post on reddit where for the asus 4090s only a specific dp port works with dsc correctly so I'm hoping the port isn't broken

[small warren]

What

Is that actually a thing LOL

[fading wyvern]

[severe depot]

hold in i'll find it

[fading wyvern]

That sounds terrible

[small warren]

My suprim one has dsc on all 3

Wtf

Which asus

[severe depot]

strix

rog strix

[small warren]

Wtf

[fading wyvern]

The hell

[small warren]

Suprim owners stay winning

We got full features AND actual binning

[severe depot]

ik you guys don't have the coil whine

[small warren]

Strix is such a joke now wtf

[fading wyvern]

You have coil whine on a strix?

[severe depot]

yeah apparently they use higher capcitance capacitors or something but they create a more audible coil whine

[small warren]

We need to go back a couple generations when strix actually meant something

[severe depot]

so newer models use the older lower capicitance caps but the older models which i have have like really loud coili whine

[fading wyvern]

The card in my brothers pc is a tuf 4090 and it’s solid

[severe depot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/15nyrqv/new_inductor_on_asus_strix_4090_to_fix_excessive/

[fading wyvern]

Welp

[small warren]

You know how you fix it

Buy thermal putty, try and locate the part that vibrates, suffocate it

[severe depot]

I just turn up the volume on my headphones and hope my roommate can't hear it

[fading wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/suffocate-homicide-kiling-someone-smother-smothering-gif-11917070

[small warren]

It's quite fixable but you need to catch it

I'm thoroughly stunned if that dsc part is true though

That's just

[fading wyvern]

That sounds like so much work on the manufacturing end

[small warren]

Like it's one of the most expensive 4090's and it's just demonstratably worse than a suprim lmao

[fading wyvern]

To lock that feature down to one port

And one kind of cable

[severe depot]

idk if its true but it was on r/oledgaming couldn't find an actually source from asus or nvidia so i guess its just anecdotal

https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1d00h3z/psa_for_all_owners_of_the_new_4k_qd_oled_240hz/

The google ai is telling me that hdmi 2.1 can use dsc is that true is it just like wrong

[fading wyvern]

Comments look like they are confirming the issue and fix

Damn

Probably real

[severe depot]

yeah idk why the strix is so cooked

last time i buy a strix

[fading wyvern]

So dp1.4a or w.e just has higher bandwidth dsc is just compression when you don’t have enough bandwidth

[severe depot]

oh yeah i heard but like they were saying hdmi 2.1 would have a lower dsc ratio

than using dp 1.4

[fading wyvern]

Weird

[severe depot]

but idt monitors support hdmi with compression right

its just dp for now

[fading wyvern]

Well w.e works

[severe depot]

whats w.e

[fading wyvern]

Whatever works is my catchphrase

[severe depot]

oh lmao

[fading wyvern]

Ram suddenly boots at xmp and wouldn’t before? W.e works

[small warren]

Every day I learn something new

Turns out I'm wrong about dp 1.4

Keep using hdmi 2.1

[fading wyvern]

Oh no

hdmi 2.1 is better?!

I’m a fool

[severe depot]

I would have to switch to dp im pretty sure if i got 4k 240hz cause i need dsc

[small warren]

32.4 vs 48

[severe depot]

yeah hmdmi 2.1 has like 12GBps more i think

yeah

[small warren]

[fading wyvern]

Damnnnnn

What happened

I need to switch my cable

[small warren]

Idk man my brain managed to fart out the concept somehow

[fading wyvern]

Lemme check if I have 2.1 on my 3080ti

Lmao

Okay it has 2.1 and my monitor has it

I’m a fool

[small warren]

The more you know

LOL

It's been many years since I started saying that so I have NO idea where it came from

[fading wyvern]

I have a super nice 2.1 cable sitting in a drawer 2

Oh god

I’ve been spreading this info

Oh no

[small warren]

You know what's even weirder

I used to use graphic pixel calculators

I would've noticed this

Somehow I didn't

Anyway

[fading wyvern]

Welp

Anyway

[small warren]

Live and learn, we own up to it

[fading wyvern]

We suck

Techie status deleted

[small warren]

So that means the xtx on 56gbps dp 2.0/2.1 is barely better

Oh wow that just

[fading wyvern]

On hdmi*

[small warren]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-26988716

[fading wyvern]

Just confused the crap outa me missed .6 dp generations

[small warren]

Do you really expect cable standards to ever make sense

[fading wyvern]

No

Just like monitor naming conventions

[small warren]

It's true btw

[fading wyvern]

Besides that one time with the m27q

[small warren]

Heh

Acer nitro

[fading wyvern]

[small warren]

Xv275u pgktbdkfkgkrndrixx

You have to wonder if they just let the cat finish the name

[severe depot]

So i can keep using hdmi 2.1 with the new oled and still get dsc if needed

[fading wyvern]

Yes

HDMI is better

[small warren]

Ye

[fading wyvern]

We are dumb

[severe depot]

thank god

I think there has just been like to much display port propaganda cause i remember when I first got the 4k monitor everyone was telling me to use dp

but dp 2.1 is like double hdmi 2.1 so its fair ig

[small warren]

If it's dp80 yes

Only gpu on the market rn with dp80 is the w7900

You can buy dp40 and it meets spec at half rate

[misty gyro]

Acer does that on purpose. They flood the market with similar model numbers and send reviewers the good ones, hoping you'll see that review and buy the "cheaper version" that's really a VA panel even though it's one letter off from the IPS model.
Warehouse workers often send the wrong monitor too because they don't check that closely.
For these reasons I never recommend Acer.

[white niche]

Monitor color calibration tip????

[misty gyro]

Unless you need it to be perfectly calibrated for work or something, just go with what looks good to you

And there's color settings in your gpu driver app too

[white niche]

Thanks

[small warren]

Colorimeter highly encouraged or things will look off

[rocky cypress]

default calibration would often be better than what you can do by eye

like felix said, you need a colourimeter in order to increase accuracy, but it's quite expensive for just one use if you're not doing photo work professionally

you may be able to find a rental unit for much cheaper but it's not very common

[fossil gust]

Sometimes reviews or forums will have reccomended settings if it's a popular panel

[misty gyro]

Even then there's panel variation, so the settings are often invalid for units besides the one the profile is made for

[wanton compass]

My TV is failing and I’m looking for a new one but not great with display knowledge. How can you tell what TVs are good for a certain value?

[misty gyro]

I recommend rtings, they review a lot of the major ones and publish articles about which ones fit what budgets

[wanton compass]

Yeah I was gonna get a Q60D because it looked good instore

for my budget

but then again all TVs here look like that

[cerulean mountain]

Anyone here do any retro gaming on old hardware? Trying to figure out the best way to convert to VGA. I saw displayport, HDMI, USB 3.0 type A(?), and USB C. I got a CRT monitor that has a little higher refresh rate if that matters (85hz). I saw some powered adapters but not sure what the perk of that would be.

[rocky cypress]

vga is an analog video signal

hdmi, dp, usb (which is really just displayport again) are all digital video signals

you'll need an active converter to change from vga to dp and hdmi

[cerulean mountain]

Thanks

[fossil gust]

If the CRT has DVI you can use a cable without active conversion

[misty gyro]

Assuming it's a DVI-A or DVI-I port. If it's DVI-D then that's digital only.

[fossil gust]

well that still works, no? HDMI and DP are digital

[misty gyro]

Correct, but you'd need another active adapter to go from DVI-D to VGA

[visual pilot]

Quite fun
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/gaming-monitors/its-hard-to-believe-but-22-percent-of-pc-gaming-monitors-are-now-oled-panels/

[rocky cypress]

22%?

goddamn

that's actually crazy

[fossil gust]

Hmmm

22% of $ sales maybe

Considering oleds are $500+, say average slae price was $650; and the common 1080p/1440p picks are maybe $175 on average 175/650=0.269
22*0.269= 5.9% of gaming monitors sold were oled which seems more believable to me

I guess add in some 4k panels and maybe that average price for non OLED goes up

So then maybe 8-10% of monitors sold were oled

[tribal spire]

@fossil gust you can go 1440p OLED for lime 350

It's very barebones entry-level feature wise
But still a QD-OLED panel

[fossil gust]

? Is the $500 AOC not the cheapest

[tribal spire]

I've seen it go for below 400

Hell I can get it for like 550 with EU upcharges

[fossil gust]

Ok but still, talking average selling price. The majority aren't getting it for $350

[tribal spire]

OLED prices are falling and people are moving up from 1080p pretty rapidly

The OLED revolution is legitimately happening already

[fossil gust]

I mean, even 10% of monitor unit sales being OLED is a lot

I just find it hard to believe 22% of unit sales were oled

[tribal spire]

It's getting there

[visual pilot]

At least 22% of all LG gaming monitors sold are OLEDs now, not by $. It might be total market too, but it's hard to check the numbers since it's one guy relaying what LG said during a press brief

[fossil gust]

I could believe 22% of LG unit sales

[misty gyro]

It sounded more like 22% of new monitor models are OLED, not anything to do with sales

(I did not read the article)

I have now skimmed the article and I did not see anything about sales numbers. I believe my first impression to be correct.

[rocky cypress]

Oh

[fossil gust]

Oh like new model releases

[visual pilot]

"OLED is already sitting at 22% of the total gaming monitor market share" is the original quote from the video that the article links to, and I would think the best way to interpret it is 22% of all models sold, although it seems more likely that it's only LG numbers and not the entire market

[light stirrup]

Hey everyone. I am currently in a predicament. A supplier I know can offer me an open box of any of the following models for 750 CAD (pls do conversions to USD if needed)

LG 45GR95QE-B
Practically any 4K 240hz OLED. Currently LG, ASUS UCDM, Alienware, MSI. What do I go for? What is the best bang for my bucks?

[misty gyro]

Is this for gaming or...?

[light stirrup]

🙄

[errant flax]

Is this meant to be a yes or a no? We try to ask genuine questions to give proper answers. Thank you for understanding.

[prime sun]

People use monitors for more than just gaming lol

Different use cases for each

[light stirrup]

That is a yes

[light stirrup]

Gaming/movies/multimedia…modtly everything EXCEPT office

I’ll be using my 1080 24 inch high ppi monitor for that

[olive crescent]

I have an XV272U I think? looks close enough to this https://www.ebay.com/itm/276240245047

I have this KTC monitor on the way (I can cancel though) https://a.co/d/0bSuGHb for 125$ ish new, should I get the Nitro refrub to match my current monitor

or just wait for this KTC

[misty gyro]

XV272U describes no less than 8 monitors on pcpp

There's probably more than that

[olive crescent]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09QFGWF7H?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

XV272U Vbmiiprx

checked my amazon history, but mine doesn't have the side ports

[misty gyro]

Oh you even got it from amazon

They're notorious for being lazy and not checking the full model number when they pull from the shelf

So people get sent the wrong one all the time, and product pages are a mess

[olive crescent]

well, it was shipped by amazon

sold by acer refrub

or maybe it was S&S by acer

but they have the same exact thing on ebay too at the time

[olive crescent]

i'm just wondering now if I should let KTC come in or reorder and buy this for a 2nd monitor

cause possible panel difference, etc etc, since it's va vs ips, list goes on

[misty gyro]

It depends on how much the colors not matching exactly would bother you

[olive crescent]

not too crazy, unless it's like there's a BIG tint difference

but I also have night mode or the yellowish tint on monitors after 9 pm so

[misty gyro]

Low blue light mode

It's mostly placebo in my experience but it's supposed to help you get to sleep

Most research on it is inconclusive

[turbid star]

I think the studies on blue light damaging your retinas were using light intensities way beyond what you encounter in real life

The sleep bit yeah inconclusive

[rocky cypress]

Sleep part may be true, eye fatigue part may be true
Though at the same time, it's not really the blue light glasses that help
It's putting a mexico filter on your display to mute colours slightly and to make it less bright

I think brightness is the cause of most people's issues

But at the same time, it's a pita to adjust brightness on desktop since you need to do it on the OSD

Or install an app to lower the brightness

[olive crescent]

or like me, put some light next to your desktop and have brightness all the way down

I usually turn it up when i'm playing games but otherwise it's at 0

nothing crazy

[olive crescent]

mexico filter?? nvm I see what you mean

speaking of stuff being put on monitors, the privacy screens cost so much for no reason