old-monitors-and-tv

[small warren]

AQ3A uses the same panel as the VG271U

So that one also sucks

Not even mid, it's just really outdated for a recent monitor

Panel is over 5 years old, it's beaten by the XV272U in every facet

And AQA1A is old style VA so yeah that has nothing going for it tbh

After thoroughly researching this, I'd not pick either TUF, at all. Lol.

Of the ones I listed, the KTC is a monitor junkie's wet dream

QPF has been a solid well received panel for a long time

XV272U is a latency chasers ol' faithful pick

LG is really nice overall

XV275U should be an extremely good pick as well

There's a lot of false positives in the monitor market. Sometimes the really budget picks wipe the floor with the name brands

Ultimately most of these panels come from several oems and all these brands purchase from them

For example both ktc and Asus buy innolux panels

Ktc however prices aggressively with extra features and uses up to date innolux panels, unlike asus that charges a premium for the same thing

[uneven bluff]

thanks a lot but I did search for that already and its nowhere on amazon

the xv275u

I found the 272U but its for $500.. isnt that a bit much for a 1440p

with HDR400 💀

[uneven bluff]

I seen these Ktcs but im doubting the quality as its new

[small warren]

That one panel I've seen recommended a ton by monitor nuts

[uneven bluff]

lol which

[small warren]

The ktc

They sell the cheapest and also nicest 240hz oled on the market at 550

It comes with a kvm

a kvm

Value big

[uneven bluff]

oh whats kvm what am i missing

[small warren]

Also, I'd try not to hyper fixate on one store, that mini led has shockingly good reviews for 190

Kvm, it's on their oled

Basically lets you run one keeb and mouse for multiple pcs

Multitask madness

[uneven bluff]

unfortunately outside amazon I have to pay extra fees

a lot of fees

[small warren]

You live like middle east or something?

Using a drop shipper?

[uneven bluff]

drop shipper for what

[uneven bluff]

yes

[small warren]

Ok figures

[small warren]

You can send the device in the us to them, then they send onwards to you

[uneven bluff]

ohh

still they make profits by the hundreds I wouldnt consider

[small warren]

Newegg is an option too btw

Well, pick from the cheapest I put there tbh

Or wait a couple weeks and it'll all change

[uneven bluff]

they dont do free shipping on monitors

[small warren]

You are likely going to be paying a lot for the shipping

Yeah they won't

The shipping is going to be mad expensive

[uneven bluff]

lol 100 min

[small warren]

I'm surprised amazon would even offer free

[uneven bluff]

yea they got lots of mini stores, warehouses they be missing out if they make shipping expensive

[small warren]

Well monitor sales shift regularly

If you can refer to the main review sources, I'd keep an eye out for a particularly good one

Pay attention to places like rtings and display ninja

Rtings has very deep testing

Places like display ninja list panel type

So you can find what panel was in where

[uneven bluff]

got it

[small warren]

Not like, va or ips

I mean the brand and product

For that specific screen in say, acer nitro blah blah monitor

Very useful knowledge

Cos then you'll find things like what I did with both those tuf screens using ancient monitor tech

Or a related review that gives you a better picture of a different monitor brand but same screen

Not trying to dump the choice on you but given my experience with shopping for saudi arabia specifically I find it's better to teach people to fish from that region

Not a lot of easy info to find on price information for middle east area

Unfortunately

[uneven bluff]

lol amazon.sa got some nice deals but not many monitor options

[small warren]

I've helped a few people from there tho, the consensus is like, 1.6x-2.5x the USD price iirc for pc hardware

I see

Yeah it can be tricky

[uneven bluff]

https://amzn.eu/d/hKDOz6Q wdy think about this one

[small warren]

If we can answer specific questions unrelated to price then we should be a little helpful

That's an awesome screen

That's the lg oled panel iirc

[uneven bluff]

havent seen other oleds since they came out guessing they still above $700?

[small warren]

720 total?

Or not without delivery

[uneven bluff]

the aoc?

lemme check

600

[small warren]

600 for you??

[uneven bluff]

total

[small warren]

Wow

[uneven bluff]

ye

[small warren]

That's actually amazing

[uneven bluff]

cheap or what

[small warren]

Yes

50 more than usa

That's excellent

[uneven bluff]

lol still more than usa

[small warren]

You won't match

Usa doesn't include tax

They're always cheaper lol

And even then you have distribution channels, making it even less likely to be equal

[uneven bluff]

ye I kinda calculated the tax but sometimes its different

[small warren]

600 is an amazing price

And if you want like a "Buy one, buy never again" kind of screen, oled is amazing

I dig the suggestion tbh

[uneven bluff]

what about burn ins

they found a solution for that or still a problem

[small warren]

Fixed

They just don't slam the brightness anymore

[uneven bluff]

did I mention its without tax

[small warren]

Still good

Better than most international places

[uneven bluff]

oke

[small warren]

350 nit peak brightness is the safe limit

[uneven bluff]

oh thats low no?

[small warren]

So 1000nit screen = 35% brightness

A little

[uneven bluff]

how am I gonna see

[small warren]

350 is bright on oled

[uneven bluff]

lol

[small warren]

Like

Much brighter than ips

[uneven bluff]

aha

[small warren]

Cos the blacks are very strong

So the brightness is more significant

[uneven bluff]

ok then

[small warren]

It's really not that bad, I've seen it irl

Just avoid direct sunlight

[uneven bluff]

but is it 350 max or advised to not go over that

[small warren]

Advised

You can go over, won't die instantly, take months and months of it constantly

But highly recommended

Stay under 350

[uneven bluff]

lol I got 2 1.5x2.5m windows in 3.5x7m room

got curtains so not a prob

sometimes

[small warren]

Should be fine then

Oled is endgame man

LG cooked that one up

[uneven bluff]

you really like oled lol

[misty gyro]

It's just that much better

[small warren]

Lemme give you the tl;dr

The latency gain is equivalent to that of upgrading your gpu several times over

The colour is nearly perfect

Contrast is unbeatable

The motion clarity is nearly perfect

The only drawback is coating for some people

[uneven bluff]

but there is no way all oleds are that good

[small warren]

No ofc not

It's this specific panel

This is one of the fixed ones

You just keep the brightness low and it's beautiful

Oled has had horrible burn in for years

[uneven bluff]

so I shouldn’t look further?

[small warren]

You could... I'd say that's an excellent start already tho

[uneven bluff]

lol found it randomly

didn’t even search for it

[small warren]

Started off with an endgame pick

[misty gyro]

It turns out reports were a bit exaggerated on that. Some of what was called "burn in" was temporary image retention caused by poor testing methodology. New data shows it likely won't be noticeable for at least 2 years of normal use.

[small warren]

Yes

But it still held up somewhat

Some of the screens recovered extremely well

Not all tho

[uneven bluff]

lol then noticeable after warranty ends

[uneven bluff]

lol self healing screens

or improved models?

[small warren]

Better self care for the screens

They do refresh cycles to prevent tft burn in turning to permanent burn in

In a way yeah self healing

That's recent tech btw

[uneven bluff]

nice

[small warren]

Prior to that all oled was completely garbage

[uneven bluff]

yep

[misty gyro]

Barely

[uneven bluff]

too bad that ktc is only 100hz now I gotta completely wreck my budget with that oled

[misty gyro]

And only if you have lots of static elements on screen like a HUD

[uneven bluff]

nah I make sure to close when im not using

[small warren]

Hide taskbar, run black background

Those things can help

[uneven bluff]

lmao imagine having a monitor more expensive than the gpu (7900 gre)

[misty gyro]

It makes the GRE feel like the XTX tho

[small warren]

Fr

[uneven bluff]

fortunately I don’t stare at the homescreen long enough to require a black wallpaper

[small warren]

Anyway, if you want a quick synopsis of that oled, watch this
https://youtu.be/hMzCnEhfB18

Same panel

Potentially different screen coating

[uneven bluff]

what the purpose of the coating

[small warren]

LG's has a bit of a blur coat

[small warren]

Light dispersion

[uneven bluff]

so no crisp resolution? 😦

[small warren]

It's crisp

I've seen it before

[uneven bluff]

lol why discord use the emoji instead of (

[small warren]

But it can make text a tiny bit blurry

Realistically it's still glass, still a massive uptick over a plastic film coating over an ips

But yeah, subtle differences at most

The part that matters most is there

[uneven bluff]

ok Im really considering oleds now

[fading wyvern]

Oleds are very cool 😎 can confirm

[small warren]

@keen helm I'm one ping away from some more advice what's going on mate?

[keen helm]

Yo wassup

[small warren]

I got a dm request, which is ok, but just give me a ping in here when you got any questions lad, I'll answer within a day

I get a lot of pings, so keeping them in here means others who I trust, will give at least very decent advice on top, so you can get 2nd and 3rd opinions 👍

Also allows for a greater dialogue as I might forget something or someone else might notice something that has a much greater impact

And vastly improve the outcome

[narrow tree]

anyone with the new asus 1440p 480hz monitor have an issue where a white static line appears across the screen at each power on? https://streamable.com/3jbfh4

[misty gyro]

That may be caused by a loose/bad video cable. You can swap that out and see if it helps. If not, and it's working fine otherwise, I'd ignore it. If it bothers you or gets worse, ask Asus support for a RMA.

[uneven bluff]

VG249Q3A-J good side monitor? I think its a better version of VG249Q1A no?

or cocopar USB-C Portable Monitor - 15.6 Inch FHD HDR FreeSync?

[small warren]

Call me weird, but I like the idea for a 2nd monitor being portable

That is only if you have a usecase for this

Like taking it on a vacation with a Series S for example

If not that then a normal ho hum screen you've always had and don't spend money on it

[uneven bluff]

valid

so the cocopar?

but its only 60hz

double the price for a portable unfortunately

[misty gyro]

If it's only used as a discord/youtube/chat monitor then Hz doesn't matter

[uneven bluff]

yes but feels weird looking at different refresh rates at the same time

[small warren]

Once you're adjusted to multimonitor you'll not see the need to spend extra on the 2nd

[misty gyro]

You wouldn't even notice. I don't. My primary is 165 and secondary is a 4:3 60 hz I have vertical.

[small warren]

Spend more on the primary if you have budget

[uneven bluff]

oke

[uneven bluff]

about that aoc monitor.. is it possible to be incompatible with my wall voltage? mine is 220 and it says US, there is a UK option but is $200 more

220v US is 120v, just wanna make sure

amazon doesnt do full refunds anymore yk

[quartz sandal]

Amazon deff does do full refunds they have to by law in most countries?

And usually things are built nowadays to go between 120 and 240v but I'd check on their site/reviews

Worst case scenario you get a converter for like a tenner

[misty gyro]

The power brick it comes with is compatible with the full range of input voltages. Worst case you just need a different cable between the brick and the wall.

[uneven bluff]

visited the site and found lotta nothing and it having hdmi 1.4 like its a flex

and the refund part im not joking I ordered a keyboard for $322 and cancelling refunds only 278

[small warren]

If it doesn't need 2.0 then I don't see why you're looking for it

[misty gyro]

Even HDMI 2.0/2.1 won't do the full 1440p240Hz, especially not with HDR on

[uneven bluff]

its 240hz doesnt hdmi 1.4 only support upto 165 or something at 2k

[small warren]

DP 1.4a is good enough and basically all GPU's you can buy rn are capped to it

Or as the real spec goes, UBR40

You don't use hdmi if you have the option to not use it

Hdmi is the copium pick

[uneven bluff]

yep dp better but still a negative

[small warren]

Rarely is hdmi the better spec on a monitor

DP has so much more going for it

Hdmi 2.1 can even be misrepresentative

Same with dp 2.0

You can have different bandwidth specs for both

[uneven bluff]

ok thanks

[small warren]

So it could say dp 2.0, but it's in fact dp 1.4a speeds

(ubr 40 again)

[misty gyro]

They can call it HDMI 2.1 if it supports the features (like DSC) but only has the bandwidth of 2.0, and the HDMI forum officially recognizes that BS as valid.

[small warren]

Hdmi 2.1 has the same spec designation

Ya

Or hdmi 1.4

So you buy it thinking you get better but the interface is still the same underneath

[misty gyro]

DP 1.4 has higher bandwidth than HDMI 2.0 so it's a moot point really

[small warren]

Yep

[uneven bluff]

ok got it but I need a tip with something else pls

H100x RGB Elite 240mm good for 7600x? does it need core xt or whatever its called, I got a controller that came with my 4000x will that work?

[misty gyro]

Corsair coolers are not compatible with most stock controllers

[uneven bluff]

didnt have any corsair cooler before

[misty gyro]

They're also generally bad coolers

[small warren]

Is this an old cooler

[uneven bluff]

idk maybe

its for 99 tho seems like a deal

[misty gyro]

The 7600X is perfectly happy with a single tower air cooler

[small warren]

Ok no

[misty gyro]

For $20

[small warren]

If you're buying, don't

If you owned it, sure

[uneven bluff]

oke what to replace it with then

didnt buy yet

[small warren]

H100x is like, worse than probably some single towers now

[uneven bluff]

lol fr?

[small warren]

Ya

The science is not just in the size

But the design of the metal plate that sticks to the cpu

The paste used as well

And the efficacy of the fins, fans, all of it

[uneven bluff]

ok Ill scrape the paste I got some noctua left

[misty gyro]

There's far better liquid coolers for $45-55

[small warren]

Cooling, despite people's claims how little it's changed, has changed a lot over time

[uneven bluff]

which pls

[small warren]

For 7600x depends on the mobo

Full name if you got it

[uneven bluff]

asrock b650m pro rs cool piece

[small warren]

Ok yeah if you want pbo, a thermalright phantom spirit

But you won't really need that much

[misty gyro]

One of the best AMD coolers if you want liquid cooled https://www.ebay.com/itm/355773832670

[small warren]

Any thermalright 120mm single tower works

About $17

Phantom spirit just covers a massive gamut

[uneven bluff]

lmao no way only that much

[small warren]

Yeah?

It's a 6 core

Are you buying this cpu later or have you already bought it

[misty gyro]

The processor uses like 50W under full load lol

[small warren]

Cos 7600 can make do with less for barely any performance loss

[uneven bluff]

found iii 240 for $10 more is it worth?

[small warren]

no

[misty gyro]

It's about a 2 degree difference

No real world benefit

[small warren]

You get arguably the best for AMD, in the process you spent a lot more for minimal gains

[uneven bluff]

but its worth 10bucks for sure 2c is a lot

[small warren]

It's not

[uneven bluff]

thats like 10%

[misty gyro]

2C gets you literally no extra performance

[small warren]

Just dial the cpu power down 5 watts

[uneven bluff]

ok 5%

[small warren]

You'll lose not even 1% performance

Even with 2°C

[uneven bluff]

but feels nicer

[small warren]

Bruv

[uneven bluff]

ok ok

[small warren]

Do you want healthy advice or positive affirmations

[misty gyro]

We're talking 54C or 56C, it's not worth it

[small warren]

Thermalright assassin spirit for $17 is an easy pick

[uneven bluff]

alright getting that one are you totally sure I shouldnt go for the iii

[small warren]

Otherwise phantom spirit for $36 and never buy another for am5 again

I'm positive the 3 is a waste of money

[misty gyro]

^ plus rgb this way

[small warren]

If you want to spend more, phantom spirit

[uneven bluff]

brb

[small warren]

It'll do a 7950x

You'll be set for the rest of am5

If not, assassin spirit ez

[uneven bluff]

the v2?

[small warren]

Ye

V2 or v3 works

Evo is also nice

The plus is great

They're all nice

Also

[misty gyro]

rgb for $19 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09LHLS4V4

[small warren]

If 7600 is cheaper get that one instead of 7600x

They're identical cpus

[uneven bluff]

bro the x IS cheaper lmao

[small warren]

By how much

[uneven bluff]

5 bucks

[small warren]

I believe you but want to check

Mmmm

[uneven bluff]

idk forgot

[small warren]

You could go non-x for 5 bucks and you get a free cooler that works

Up to you

Roughly same result

[uneven bluff]

nah nasty wrath my ahh cooler

[misty gyro]

Newegg has the non-X for $182 vs $210 for the X

[small warren]

Alr

[uneven bluff]

ill stick to amazon its 205 for x

[misty gyro]

Ok, amazon for $182 then

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BMQJWBDM

[uneven bluff]

bro the x is cheaper omg

ill get that thermalight tower and were good then

[uneven bluff]

thanks all for the help appreciate it

[errant edge]

? I mean it isn't

$20 extra for the same cpu that runs hotter/pulls more power and not coming with a stock cooler

[small warren]

I'm a little confused too tbh but honestly just whichever is cheaper

They're identical chips

One has an X on it and different default settings

You can make them behave like each other

[uneven bluff]

on my local amazon its cheaper

[small warren]

Would you do aliexpress

We can get it even cheaper

$123

And some random cents amount I never remember

[uneven bluff]

nah this build for my lil bro I aint giving him no gpu

[uneven bluff]

dont say it

[small warren]

Eh?

[uneven bluff]

no 7500

[small warren]

Lol

It is really the same cpu again

[uneven bluff]

lol

[small warren]

Is this not a gaming pc?

[uneven bluff]

no just for studying will get a gpu later

he got a ps5 already

[small warren]

Ah

Ok fair enough

Then whichever is cheaper of the 7600/x

[uneven bluff]

alr got it thanks

[small warren]

@misty gyro @errant edge beware the innocn

A mystery oled for thee

$550 price but deceptive to he

Poor quality mayhaps, their history rings true

Strong chance this monitor could be ass too

[errant edge]

Smh

[small warren]

Yeah my recent readings on innocn look really sketch tho

Ah gdi

Lmao

Ok where were we

Yes dodgy brand has LG partner now

[errant edge]

If it were noticeably cheaper than the aoc one I'd consider it more, but at like $20 cheaper just seems pointless

[small warren]

Yeah, their prowess at monitor software is already a big red flag

Not just one but seems like all now

I have blips on at least 3

KTC just seems to remain the goat

AOC seems good too but lacks a kvm afaik

[errant edge]

What is kvm?

[small warren]

It basically lets you switch your keyboard monitor and mouse to a different pc without unplugging anything

Kvm = keyboard video mouse

Basically

Usb hub with 2 video and usb inputs is the other way to look at it

Very handy for multitasking or if you want to just run everything to a plug in laptop or maybe docked handheld like steam deck

[errant edge]

Oh cool

Doesn't seem like something I'd need to consider for myself tho

[small warren]

Oh yeah, but it's very very useful for that one day you might later

Great selling feature

[errant edge]

True

[small warren]

The usb pd charging as well

It's like 65w on the monitor

If it was a straight shootout of all of them the KTC would be up there just on paper specs lol

[steep bobcat]

Thoughts on the tuf vg249q3a

Cant find any in depth reviews on it

[errant edge]

My rule of thumb with tuf

Likely not horrible, likely a bit more expensive than the competition

[steep bobcat]

Its not that bad its $150

[errant edge]

1080p?

That's pretty bad

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Wbgrxr/msi-g255f-245-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-g255f

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3fzXsY/msi-g244pf-e2-238-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-g244pf-e2

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4gGhP6/msi-mag-275qf-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-mag-275qf

[steep bobcat]

I bought 2 E2s from microcenter and both of them developed a pink hue within 30 minutes

In different ways too

[errant edge]

Taking that off my recc list immediately

That sucks, ty

[steep bobcat]

Yeah it was brutal

[errant edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DqQKHx/koorui-24e3-240-1920-x-1080-165-hz-monitor-24e3

That's also really good

[steep bobcat]

Second one I got basically had color zones split up in thirds. Center third of the screen was warmer red and the outer 2 thirds were cooler. First one did something similar but still differently

[steep bobcat]

Idk maybe I am full of poopookaka because I got this and it was super greenish and looked weird

Either cloud L or really bad luck

[fossil gust]

Uuuuuuugghhhhh

Bought another refurbished monitor from Acer ebay store

Thought it was fine, used it for a few weeks

Then

Dead R subpixel

[errant edge]

Ripp

[prime sun]

Rip

[turbid star]

ip

[small warren]

p

[agile hatch]

Wassup everyone. I’m trynna get an OLED 1440p monitor. I currently have a g6 & I don’t like it. I had the ultra gear 27” oled that was hdr10 and I loved it but they don’t make it anymore. What oled monitors u guys think is the best right now?

[rocky cypress]

rtings rates the samsung odyssey g8 as the best oled monitor they've tested so far

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/oled

[agile hatch]

What about any 27” inches

I also rather stay away from the Samsung oleds

& at 1440p

[rocky cypress]

samsung is the only company that makes QD-OLED

(the panel, other companies buy their panels for their products)

[agile hatch]

Ik but their monitors arent the best. I saw an msi (uses Samsung panel) that looked better

But I was wondering if there was something better than that

[rocky cypress]

for 27", and 1440p, this is what rtings rates as best for that category https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/alienware-aw2725df

also qd-oled

[agile hatch]

Doesn’t necessarily have to be qd-oled cuz I’m not going higher than 250fps

Tbf I wanna stay away from the Samsung ones

[rocky cypress]

qd-oled isnt about fps, it's for colour

[agile hatch]

Bad experience with all of em

Qd is the only one that does 360hz

But WOled is still better

Since QD the black won’t be as black as the WOled

[rocky cypress]

the quantum dots layer is for better colour accuracy, it just happens to also have a high refresh rate

[agile hatch]

U can still see very little grayish when it goes black

The WOled has the white & makes it looks better than qd oled

But the 360hz is very tempting

[rain latch]

Is LG c4 a good buy or nah

[rocky cypress]

c4 oled? rtings rates that as one of the best tvs

[misty gyro]

If you have the money for it then by all means, that's easily one of the top 3 on the consumer market

[smoky thicket]

my lg c1 feels old now

[small warren]

You are old

[misty gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-line-anthony-mackie-sam-wilson-falcon-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-gif-21182970

[tribal spire]

You could get away with the B4 if you want like 90% of the performance

That's significantly cheaper apparently

But there are sizes that's only available with the C4

[rain latch]

Thanks

[errant edge]

@rocky cypress different personal question on the topic of mini led

Do you think this is worth the upgrade from an x27q? I want to replace my side monitor and get an upgrade while I'm at it
https://www.newegg.com/acer-xv275u-vymipruzx-27-wqhd-170-hz-nitro-ips-black/p/N82E16824011465?Item=N82E16824011465&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-011-465-_-10132024

[rocky cypress]

The VA panel is on rtings (though that model apparently is displayhdr1000 while the IPS version is only displayhdr 400)
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/hp-x27q-vs-acer-nitro-xv275u-p3biipx/27159/62843 and it costs around the same
Honestly having a better contrast ratio would probably be quite nice

Unfortunately the IPS version isn't on rtings though so there's not a proper comparison

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1784672-REG/acer_um_hxxaa_302_27_wqqhd144hz_va_monitor.html

The VA version

[errant edge]

I have gift cards for wegg so has to be there, and I typically use lowish brightness since I mostly play at night, and my monitor is alr too bright for my partner to sleep lol

Not sure if that would change anything

[rocky cypress]

Lmao

[visual pilot]

OLED prob theoretically best for that

[rocky cypress]

You definitely wouldn't be finding a 1440 170hz OLED for $200 though

[visual pilot]

Yea, so only theoretical, unless there's some crazy deal

[rocky cypress]

Probably not a 1440 60hz either, but yeah lmfao

[errant edge]

Initial plan was waiting for black fridayish for an oled but id still have to spend out of pocket for it, and my gpu is needing replacing too

[rocky cypress]

Having local array dimming definitely would be much better than the edge dimming on the x27q

[errant edge]

So I'd rather a cheaper monitor that's still an upgrade

I could also push monitor off again and get a $450 refurb 6900xt

But that means $150 out of pocket and id rather not atm

[rocky cypress]

1080p monitor for your 4090

Frfr

[errant edge]

Real

[prime sun]

I used a 1440p monitor with intel integrated graphics on my laptop for the longest time

Could barely run so if i played any games (the few i could play) id have to play at 720p on a 1440p monitor 🥲

[ebon garnet]

Does not being able to run the right adaptive sync on a monitor prevent you from being able to run it @ max refresh rate? My current monitor is an ancient relic, Acer XB270HU (1440p, 144hz, Gsync compat) from 9yrs ago, but after swapping out my 3060 Ti yesterday for a new 7900 XTX, my display settings no longer show 144hz as a selectable option, my options cap out at 120hz. Is it just bc the monitor doesn't have AMD Freesync?

I'm replacing this fossil in January when I can hopefully afford a nice 1440p OLED, but until then if anyone has any idea what's going on here please let me know 🙏

[visual pilot]

Most likely has to do with cable bandwidth, not adaptive sync

[ebon garnet]

I'm using the exact same DisplayPort cable that I was using with my 3060 Ti though, so that doesn't seem right unless I'm misunderstanding how that works

[visual pilot]

For example, iirc DP 1.4 will only do 1440p120 if you do 10 bit color

Higher with 8 bit color

Check what you're setting the monitor to

[small warren]

Interesting

Dp 1.4a should do 240hz if it's supported

Think that's with dsc if 10bit but 120 is really short

[ebon garnet]

Yeah I thought it seemed kinda odd, I tried reading up on other people having the same issue with this same model online, and there were quite a few but I couldn't find any solutions

a lot of them also being with AMD cards, but old ones since this monitor released in 2015 lol

[small warren]

Oh I figured it out

It's dp 1.2

[ebon garnet]

so a lot of the answers in these threads are like "idk maybe the RX390 just can't run 144hz?"

[small warren]

And uses an old gsync module

1.2 should do 144

But it might have some catch 22

That monitor is old af

It uses og gsync modules, those things don't even exist anymore lol

[ebon garnet]

Yeah for the past 9yrs I've def been running it @ 144hz with my Nvidia cards so that was why my hunch was maybe it not having Freesync or something haha

[small warren]

It def won't have freesync

You'd have to use vsync I think

I don't know about adaptive but I wouldn't hold my breath

[ebon garnet]

Yeah when I was playing around with different games yesterday, Vsync seemed to work great and I never noticed any screen tearing in my games. So not a huge deal really just a mild annoyance, I'll be replacing this poor old thing soon anyways

[visual pilot]

You can try setting a custom resolution in adrenaline with 144hz

[small warren]

Well I can definitely assure you that it's capable of way more as a gpu lmfao

[ebon garnet]

haha yeah definitely, I haven't tried any super demanding games on it yet, but in FFXIV I uncapped the framerate and it was hitting 200fps crazy. Temps on the card have been good too so far, happy with it 🙏

I'm still fumbling my way around learning how to use Adrenaline's features but I just found the custom resolution setting how does this work

Do I just change both refresh rate settings to 144 like this and hit create?

[visual pilot]

Yea, try running it, if it doesn't work, just switch back

[ebon garnet]

I'm not sure if it worked tbh. Nothing weird happened at least, so that's something

I opened a game to see what would happen, in FFXIV I play with it capped to my monitor's refresh rate which is still locking in @ 120. Idk anything about this feature really so idk how it works, do I just need to uncap my framerate since my monitor still thinks it's locked to 120hz?

[visual pilot]

If you just created it, you will need to apply it somewhere, after you applied the custom resolution, just check windows settings and see if windows reads it as 144

[ebon garnet]

ohhh ok

oh my screen went black

no signal

So I guess that didn't work

[visual pilot]

Welp, guessing the monitor has some weird timings or something

[ebon garnet]

oh well it's okay, I'll just live my best 120hz life for the next 2 months til I can finally put this poor old thing to bed

I appreciate the help though even though it didn't quite work

[visual pilot]

Unfortunate

[rotund jolt]

I have a ROG STRIX G17 laptop that I want to play with on my monitor. The laptop only supports HDMI and mini display port (thunderbolt) which i have a cable for and use to connect to my monitor. However, it only works sometimes. Majority of the time, either the monitor does not recognize the laptop, or vice versa causing my monitor to just turn off when it does not recognize any inputs. My monitor is a ASUS TUF Gaming VG259QM (240hz 280hz OC) and it has 2 display ports.

I connect to it using a USB C - Display port cable. I also know that my laptop supports this because there is a lightning thunderbolt symbol next to the port. I want to fix this ASAP. Any way to fix this? I've tried the basic troubleshooting like unplugging the cable and plugging it back in, as well as restarting my laptop & monitor multiple times.

[median mantle]

Have to trouble shoot, I'd start with the drivers. Uninstall then reinstall, if that doesn't work try another adapter.

[turbid star]

The lightning doesn't always mean its thunderbolt tho

But yeah might need another adapter if a driver reinstall doesn't work

Also its technically displayport over USB c, not mini displayport

Mini display port is a weird lookin square-ish one

[elder monolith]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gawfolk-DisplayPort-Compatible-Wall-Mounted-100MM-White/dp/B0D8PT79F1/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=360G662ZBFTFR&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lf7GVQie3gJU_EjChQyqASSPRoGxODeHbJ2mLEkKaDceBKT4ra5_waPULmk9nQwL7yz18J32B5xrw2vCOhLuueGO6J5UzAJGS1YNXV1qo1NnDtq_MFKNRXki1XjMI5enbhvVxKRDOsqhpj3CjhI0hA5_i-HMncHhy8KLqVPNMePP6ngDV4FTkUg_M6auNdGh3UNDtNQb8ARBeJTj-ENTNfzs1aY0vgFT6fXxD3AUUXo.g8JBsn69khroIwlu-IaAPLOu1ftIIrgb0lm9Ri5lYUg&dib_tag=se&keywords=white%2Bmonitor&qid=1729213284&sprefix=white%2Bmon%2Caps%2C93&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1

is this good?

[rocky cypress]

wild amount of curve for a 27"

dont get curved 27" monitors tbh lol

maybe at 32", but 27" is still a bit small

curve is just a gimmick, completely useless

[turbid star]

With a name like that? No

Gawfolk is gonna be Bawsulk next or something

[fossil gust]

The symbol may just be there to signify it supports power delivery, not that it meets thunderbolt spec. I'd look at a specs page for your laptop model to clarify what the port is

[quiet finch]

I have curved 34" for a few years now, had 27" too, its more comfortable

[visual ocean]

Hi guys I have a monitor issue. I got a Samsung G95SC and a RX 7900xtx graphics card. My screen occasionally disconnects and sets resolution to 720p @ 60fps (see pictures). I have tried updating graphics card drivers, resetting to factoring default on gpu, reinstalling samsung's monitor drivers on the pc, checking for monitor firmware updates & trying different cords. I bought 3 different company's DisplayPort 2.1 cords off Amazon but it still happens. Only way to fix is unplug & replug the DP cable (power cycling monitor has no effect). Any pointers?

Happens about once every 5 days. I turn off the monitor when I put my pc to sleep. I restart the pc weekly but this issue happens before I restart it.

[rocky cypress]

Did you try uninstalling with ddu for a full uninstall of the GPU drivers?

[visual ocean]

let me try that, thanks

[visual ocean]

Nope, didnt work sadly, happened when I opened microsoft word

[rocky cypress]

Hmm

Could be a few things still, maybe see if you get the issue with a different PC (laptop, or borrow a friend's PC or bring the monitor to a friend's house to test)

[small warren]

@visual ocean does it pop up when windows switches to hdr?

There's a couple possible steps

Need to know a bit more about the nature of it, like how it happens (every bit of detail), when it can happen and then if you maybe have any OC dialed in

[visual ocean]

I have HDR disabled on Win10 Pro. I did a fresh install of gpu drivers by using DDU today. The screen blacks out for ~4 seconds then comes back. Sometimes the monitor instead searches for input and fails to find it like the pictures I provided. The computer doesnt freeze when this occurs and audio still plays from downloaded mp3's, youtube or a game. It occurs when my gpu is running stock and overclocking it the problem still occurs. The black screen and 'mode not supported' can cycle multiple times (3 times in a minute) when I have microsoft word open, discord, steam library and a google search. Toggling gpu hardware acceleration doesnt seem to make a difference either.

[small warren]

Oh interesting

So what I suppose could be happening is you get auto hdr kick in and it makes the monitor cycle?

Have you tried cycling monitor inputs

Some monitors and TVs aren't very good at detecting input changes, my FV43U is guilty of this on both my xtx and 4090

It could be that the card did switch over but the monitor just isn't detecting

Which is very fixable

The other thing is auto hdr off

If you leave it always on or always off the monitor won't have to switch as often

The less the monitor needs to switch, potentially could mean the far better the results here

[visual ocean]

Thank you for the help! I run the monitor in hdr off typically and the black screens and "mode not supported" typically happen within 30mins of turning it on (but sometimes it is hours into use). Hdr might be auto turning on? I have a 2nd monitor running off the gpu but i do not have 2 inputs being used on my g95sc, could that be the problem? I can try hdmi as input and see if it still occurs if needed swapping which displayport is used on the gpu and it doesnt help... Idk if im just overthinking but it seems to happen less when running at 240hz instead of 120

Would Adrenaline features such as super resolution or anti lag cause the black screens and input problems?

[small warren]

Yes

[small warren]

Is it random?

Oh yeah true

Does G95SC accept dual input from 1 GPU? I remember the older neo does that

Both my questions pertain to a potential cable or bandwidth problem

Anti-lag is fine btw

But super resolution can and will cause input lag

The Frame Gen variety anyway

FSR 2.x is fine

[visual ocean]

Seems random yea can happen regardless of app used I think it happened when I was on desktop once

[visual ocean]

I tried 3 cables, it happened with the stock one, a JSAUX DP 2.1 cord and an Amazon basics DP

I have frame gen off

I think the G95sc supports dual input I would need to check

[small warren]

I would try using dual input if it's supported

Cos insufficient bandwidth can lead to that sort of problem on other monitors in my experience

Long cables or shaky bandwidth

Random black screens

Kind of checks out if it's supported

Especially since G95SC is like dual 4K 240hz?? Insane amount of bandwidth

[tribal spire]

Wow that'd need dual DP 2.1 without DSC

[visual ocean]

Only a 10ft cord also tried 6ft and 5ft but no difference, and 5120x1440 @ 240hz so ~90% of single 4k

For some reason the monitor supports DP 1.4 not DP 2.1

But I was having these issues at 120hz and 240hz (although it seems to happen less at 240hz might just be bias though)

I'll try dual input tonight

[languid badge]

anyone have a DP cable recommendation that is rated for the absolute limits of DP1.4?

I got a new 240Hz 1440p HDR monitor but my cable isn't rated for the absolute limits of the 1.4 spec

and I can't dual input

[small warren]

amazon's brand

Cable creations?

Makes great fibre cables for dp and hdmi

If you want a suggestion

Fibre isn't cheap tho, I'd stick to another brand like UGREEN

[small warren]

Hmmmmmm

While you're at it try this

?ddu

[dapper socket]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[small warren]

But this time, do it and then pick nothing else other than to just disable overlay

And enable anti lag

If it defaults to the wrong monitor hz, do that too but only once

In this process, the repeated issue should disappear if it's related to what the GPU is doing, otherwise yeah, dual input might be the way to go

Dual 1.4a should be able to do dual 4K 240Hz with DSC

[visual ocean]

I did

On Friday, it still happens

[small warren]

Ya try it again

But follow the specifics I gave

If you mess with radeon settings too much you can introduce instability

[visual ocean]

Oh ok, I can try that

[small warren]

Ya just one more time

If it keeps happening after that then we can rule out drivers

[visual ocean]

It's 5120x1440p not dual 4k

[small warren]

I know

G95SC can do 4K right

[visual ocean]

Nope

[small warren]

Isn't the new one supposed to have 4K?

[visual ocean]

That is a different monitor

[small warren]

Oh G95C

ic

[visual ocean]

Mhm 🙂

I got the 1440 (G95SC) one for a good deal

New from samsung.com for $700

[visual ocean]

Ran DDU and did the specifics, im going to run this for a while before trying anything else to see

could be the Adrenaline Game Overlay? I never messed with that option before (defaults to On)

[languid badge]

Oh you have an AMD GPU, yeah I had random black screens, settings changes, and even crashes when I has a Radeon VII even getting it RMA'd didn't help

it kinda burned my bridge with AMD GPUs

never found out what it was

I tried literally everything imaginable the only thing that worked was not using the high refresh monitor at all

[visual ocean]

yea my name has my pc haha 🙂

i had terrible luck with my RX 6750xt but this one has been great

ive had this gpu since last September

[small warren]

As I instructed, overlay off, unlikely to be that but I run it off anyway

[small warren]

I kinda doubt it's anything related to pre-RDNA

Radeon VII no less being one of those "Cool spec but commonly full of problems" cards

[misty gyro]

Much like the 5700 XT

So... so many problems

[fossil gust]

5700xt was a huge fumble from AMD

great value card at the time (in theory) but the sheer amount of driver issues tarnished the reputation of AMD cards for a lot of people

[misty gyro]

Not to mention the issues with the hardware itself

Most of which has been mitigated with driver updates by now

[visual ocean]

I still get black screens after following recomendations

[small warren]

Did we try turning hdr to always on or always off

No more auto

Auto will flick it back and forth

Which can make a monitor flicker off and on once (Or even multiple times)

[rocky cypress]

wait, is your screen randomly going black for like a second?

it might be because of VRR

try disabling VRR

aka adaptive sync

aka freesync

aka gsync

[small warren]

aka vertically synced (adaptive)

aka sync (wait for pixel) refresh

aka sync with me bro, heh, vertically

[rocky cypress]

💀

horizontal sync when

[small warren]

Anyway jokes aside, it's definitely like some sort of bandwidth protocol or handshake in play here causing this

Odyssey monitors have a little bit of a running reputation for weird settings needs with Radeon over the years

So if you end up doing something like Freesync off and it's all better then yeah, it's likely the monitor

[rocky cypress]

but yeah, if your current issue is only a random flicker of the screen randomly, that could be vrr flicker, but if it's still doing the weird resolution/fps drop randomly, it wouldnt be caused by vrr

[visual ocean]

The most recent was like 5 seconds but yeah

[visual ocean]

Ok I can try that next

[rocky cypress]

5 seconds i would doubt it was vrr, but worth a try ig

[visual ocean]

So thus wouldn't be caused by vrr?

[rocky cypress]

unsure

[visual ocean]

More rare than black screens but has happened at least 12 times now

I'll try turning off freesync pro with it tomorrow after work, thanks!

Picture was taken 2 days ago

[languid badge]

My new DP cable came and my artifacting went away, it really was a signal integrity problem from using a DP1.2 cable for the outer limits of 1.4

[errant edge]

So uhhhh

New aoc mini led

It was super glitchy when I booted, turned hdr off, and now no signal

Rma time ig

:(

Oh it's back

Weird

[small warren]

Lmao

[turbid star]

Did you try a hammer

[brittle hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBgadcvf8MY

[small warren]

Why

[rocky cypress]

meet the engineer

oh wait it has the s word 💀

damn newegg server

[small warren]

*techie

[jagged basin]

Hello. Is this where I go for help with stereoscopic 3d gaming options?

I am looking for an external 3D syncher adapter.

Not 3d printing. 3d video

I have a PlayStation 3D TV but it's too laggy in gaming. I have a 1ms Low-ping Lenovo g25-10 monitor.

I'm hoping an external syncher could be hooked up between an HDMI frame packed source and a 2D monitor, and alternate frames and turn a 2d low ping monitor into a 3d one

Sega proved you can add 3d to a 2d tv

I heard the latest obstacle for an add on 3d tv adapter in the 2010s was that TVs had various ping times, none of them close to zero, and the best TV, the PS3DTV, was not fast enough

Now that ping times are practically equal to CRT TVs (except Light Gun Games) and therefore no need to factor the ping in active shutter 3d timing

I know people get 2d projectors and use an add on to convert them to 3d

Maybe I can appropriate that tech to make a low ping 3d monitor add on.

Hello is anyone reading this? I was recommended to go to Newegg from a dealer in California, and I called in Ohio, and Newegg still couldn't help me.

Is this the right department?

[visual pilot]

Hey, I just wanted to note that most people here in this discord do not work for Newegg, and that this is a pretty obscure topic so very few people know would be familiar with these equipment. I did some looking around and this is the closest thing I can find that seems available. I'm not sure what exactly this does to the 3d input signal, and I'm not convinced it does what you want since the output is only 1080p 24/30hz with frame packing, but it might be a lead for you.
https://www.converters.tv/video-scaler/hdmi-displayport-vga-3d-2d-scaler-with-3d-bypass-786
Another thing is this, which seems to do what you want, but is discontinued and I haven't see it available anywhere.
https://www.wagneronline.com.au/3d-demultiplexer/av-format-converters/av-tv-sat-installation/ch-322-36236/963448/pd/

[silent epoch]

The future of graphics is AI overlay. Graphics aren’t really getting better

[jagged basin]

I found my processor, and an HD Fury X4.

The problem is I need an infrared shutter signal transmitter.

I found the PS3DTV glasses work right for my monitor, but I need a way for an HD Fury to communicate with Sony IR glasses

The HD Fury should convert framepacked 60hz to alternate frame 120 Hz and my monitor (I think) can do 1280x720x120 AF

[rocky cypress]

imho not worth it in this day and age
no content is really mastered for stereoscopic 3d anymore, due to how niche it is

if you want to play around with 3d enviroments, get a meta quest 3

[jagged basin]

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll consider it once I make some money. The problem is If found a way to be stream 3d fixed perspective 3d on YouTube and and Twitch

I don't know how to stream out Oculus Quest on Twitch

Also it's the POV camera that's more disorienting than the 3d

[rocky cypress]

few methods of streaming VR
some games have a built in camera, some games have LIV intergration https://store.steampowered.com/app/755540/LIV/
or you can stream POV

Steam

LIV

LIV is the #1 VR toolset that empowers YouTubers, streamers, VTubers, and other content creators to capture professional-quality VR content. LIV is known for mixed reality capture which lets you film yourself inside games, but it has a wide selection of features that will take your VR content to the next level.Key FeaturesSupports most VR headse...

▶ Play video

and some games have POV camera but with smoothing so the audience doesnt get motion sick

though, this is specifically for when you're playing games in PCVR (using a pc for the game, rather than running it on the headset)

[jagged basin]

1. I usually use consoles. 2. I already twitch Virtual Boy games once a month in 3d

[rocky cypress]

LIV allows you to have a virtual avatar or have a mixed reality with a greenscreen and a camera so you can look like you're in the game

[jagged basin]

How do you stream Quest?

[rocky cypress]

ah since you use consoles, you might not currently have a good enough pc for pcvr then

[jagged basin]

I figured how to stream "frame packed " 3d games like Sonic Generations Xbox 360

[rocky cypress]

meta does have an app that can stream standalone gameplay to like a pc or phone which then you could mix via obs or something, then stream it to twitch, though imo it's better to use pcvr to stream, so that you aren't limited to the quest library, and so that you can change to a different vr headset and still have your games

[jagged basin]

In 360. I'm just trying to get a lower ping monitor to play it on

The PS3DTV may be a good 3f movie tv, but I'm always late with Sonic's jumps unless I "Lead the move"

I'm trying to find a 3d IR sync emitter

Let's get back to the original subject.... An external IR 3d sync emitter with The HD Fury (XLR/Done, not sure which) hole for suncher

Din 3

[ebon garnet]

kind of a hypothetical, but are OLEDs likely to keep going down in price in the coming year or few months? I've been monitor shopping to scout out what I might be looking to grab in December-Feb when I have more money, and there are some great deals out there but I don't currently have the funds for them and am not really sure if it's super worth it to pay $550+ for a good 1440p OLED when there are 1440p HDR1000 monitors around the $300 range

If I saw an OLED in person I'd probably be more sold on the difference but I'm a little unsure about them given the price difference and the potential for burn-in

[misty gyro]

The trend has been prices going down and I don't see them hitting the bottom any time soon. But I'm just some random guy on the Internet.

Lowest I've seen so far is a little over $400 for 1440p 240Hz and I'm sure others will drop at least that low eventually

[ebon garnet]

https://computers.woot.com/offers/lg-39-ultragear-oled-curved-gaming-monitor-1

I really want this but I'm way too broke bc I just bought a GPU last week lmao

if there's still stuff like this at that price range in a few months I'll probably grab one, but idk if it will be

[misty gyro]

Oh and as far as burn in goes, it's not nearly as much of a concern on modern panels, especially under normal usage. If you edit videos or something that has a lot of static elements on screen then you'll start to see burn in somewhere between 2-3 years. If you do a variety of things and games then you likely won't notice for several years.

[ebon garnet]

Yeah my primary monitor I pretty much only use for games, so that's good to know. I have side monitors I use for browsing and other apps etc

The only OLED screen device I've ever owned was the old launch model PS Vita, and I never had any burn-in issues with it (I used it a lot) but I always hear horror stories of people having burn-in on OLED monitors after like a couple months and that scares me a bit lol

especially since some (or most?) OLED monitor warranties don't cover burn-in.

[misty gyro]

If you want to jump into the rabbit hole https://youtu.be/Fa7V_OOu6B8?si=VJw27Dp0Zs_cGmzN

Turns out what people thought was "burn in" turned out to be temporary image retention

[ebon garnet]

oh neat I'll def give this a watch

ah ok

oh other kind of related question I was gonna ask but I didn't wanna make a text wall lol

I've only ever owned matte finish monitors, and a lot of the cheaper OLEDs I've looked at are matte finish, which I see people seem to generally not prefer

is it really that much of a diff between matte to glossy? or is it kind of just super picky people making mountains out of molehills

[misty gyro]

Matte vs Glossy is entirely up to preference. Generally speaking:
Matte has slightly worse colors, but handles bright rooms better.
Glossy has slightly better colors, but handles bright rooms worse.

The difference is quite small but enough that the vocal minority got loud enough for the manufacturers to start offering both

[ebon garnet]

huh ok interesting, I prob won't worry about it especially if I end up going OLED since the color quality will be improved over what I currently use anyway

I also have a window almost taking up the entire wall adjacent to my desk so matte might be the play lol

I basically never have glare issues on my current screens so I'll stick with what I know I guess

[ebon garnet]

another question I just thought of, how much more of a burden does it tend to be on the GPU going from a 1440p 27" screen to an ultrawide like this? with a 39" that's like a 30% increase in pixel count on the monitor and I know it definitely makes at least some difference. I know my GPU can do 4K easily so it probably isn't a big deal but I'm just curious bc I've only ever used 27" screens

[misty gyro]

When you're gaming, it'll be like going from 1440p to 4k because the increase in horizontal screen area also means you'll want to use a wider FOV, and more things will be rendered on screen at a time.

[ebon garnet]

well I'm glad I asked because if that's the case I'll probably stick with standard sized 27" monitor instead

[errant edge]

question abt this

1440p uw is about 5m pixels while 4k is 8.3m

i can't phrase a question with that

[turbid star]

Do remember you can set custom resolutions

To emulate the widescreen experience

2560x1080

3440x1440

[misty gyro]

Would the question be along the lines of "how does that math work if it's a similar load but less pixels?"

[errant edge]

yeah thats it

[misty gyro]

You've got nearly a 4k screen's worth of pixels on the horizontal

But less on the vertical

But what usually renders above and below your character?

Ground and sky, which are low load

Most of the load is coming from the objects to either side or in front of your character

[errant edge]

ohh that makes a lot of sense

ty

[ebon garnet]

great point actually thank you, I hadn't thought of that. And if I get an Ultrawide I guess I can just do the opposite on any games I have performance issues on by lowering them down from 3440x1440 to 2560x1440. Not sure if standard scale resolutions would look jank on an ultrawide though, with the curve and all. I imagine it probably looks fine but

[misty gyro]

You can always set it to DLSS balanced and it still looks fine

Or FSR depending on game

[turbid star]

Standard to ultrawide looks fine

So it might be the same

I regularly set my 27" to 2560x1080

[visual ocean]

It was chrome graphics acceleration and whenever it was alt tabbed to a full screen chrome tab (even if 'new tab') when i had a game or discord open my screen would black screen and change to "mode not supported" if i tried to work through it

so as long as i dont use chrome on this monitor it wont crash

wait i only had discord open and my monitor had 'mode not supported' i think its discord

2 inputs doesnt help either btw

trying with this off

[near zinc]

nay or yay?

[errant edge]

For what use case

[near zinc]

gaming

[errant edge]

No

Absolutely not

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fKQ4t7

[near zinc]

Is it because of the 60hz ?

[errant edge]

Partially

Aside from that, 97% of people are better off running 1440p than 4k

[near zinc]

I've had a look at other monitors, what you think about these options?

https://amzn.eu/d/2JVdAM6

https://amzn.eu/d/6p0dHjn

[misty gyro]

(The primary exception to that is when using a 4090, but even then you want more than 60Hz)

[errant edge]

Id take this instead
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/LfzXsY/asrock-pg27qft1b-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-pg27qft1b

[quiet finch]

im looking to buy a curved 4k monitor, but the best one, atleast 144hz

https://a.co/d/6O1rMiG is this the best one?

size - 32" - 40"

[errant edge]

No

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XY3dnp

[quiet finch]

aint qd-oled is risky coz burn-in?

[errant edge]

No

[quiet finch]

the only relevant options in that list are from msi but they aren't curved, i had a 27" curved and non-curved and i cannot go back to non-curved... its less comfortable

is there anything else? perhaps upcoming?

also why the msi options are better than what I first suggested?

[errant edge]

Wait is this the oled version

I thought it was the VA

[quiet finch]

this isn't the oled verison its the mini led version i think they are the same tho

[errant edge]

No they're not

Oled and qd oled have much faster response times and smoother overall. Felix or jp could give more details

Mini led has the brightness, hdr, and colors of oled and oled variants

This is curved but 1440p
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PrBG3C/alienware-aw3423dw-342-3440-x-1440-175-hz-curved-monitor-aw3423dw

Same
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qxqrxr/lg-ultragear-39gs95qe-b-390-3440-x-1440-240-hz-curved-monitor-39gs95qe-b

Cheapest curved 4k oled is $1200 lmao
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RwXV3C/alienware-aw3225qf-316-3840-x-2160-240-hz-curved-monitor-aw3225qf

[quiet finch]

The last one has hdr 400 T_T

why one cannot have the perfect monitor

[errant edge]

I didn't know that's how hdr works, I just thought if a monitor had a certain brightness that's what hdr it had

[quiet finch]

Do the Dolby Vision along with the hdr 400 makes it like hdr 1000 or 1500 or 2000?

in the AW3225QF

[errant edge]

I'm not the right guy to ask I'm sorry

[fossil gust]

I might be wrong but from what I remember hdr400 is pretty bad (you want hdr10 or 10+), but Dolby vision is as good as hdr10+

[quiet finch]

yeah i have hdr400 right now and its just ok nothing fancy but it might be just me

[fossil gust]

I think up untill recently any monitor over 400nits could get that cert

Now you need over 400nits and a certain contrast ratio (still no local dimming though)

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/learn/display-hdr

[quiet finch]

Responsiveness aside, speaking of picture quality, what looks best, what I suggested (https://a.co/d/6O1rMiG )

or this one? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RwXV3C/alienware-aw3225qf-316-3840-x-2160-240-hz-curved-monitor-aw3225qf

with HDR on

and does the difference is small?

[fossil gust]

I honestly don't know much about high end monitors. Maybe look to see if rtings.com has reviews of them

[restive carbon]

sorry if this is asked alot but what are some of the best 4k monitors in the market rn

budget to midrange

[rocky cypress]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/by-resolution/4k-ultra-hd-uhd
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/gaming-monitors-4k

if you need a monitor for gaming, you should aim for a 27" 1440p rather than 4k

[errant edge]

Would wait for the 5080/90 if targeting 4k

[rocky cypress]

even so, pixel density with 1440p on a 27" monitor is already more than enough for the proper viewing distance from your monitor

if you want a bigger monitor, then yeah 4k

[errant edge]

^^

[prime sun]

Also depends on what you play or do, for pro shooters and fighting games or just general web browsing 1440p or even 1080p is more than fine, unless you need that extra screen space

And even then second monitor moment 🙏

If youre worried about budget id probably get 1440p, i remember seeing a good value q led 1440p 240hz (i think) going for about 200 bucks recently

[thick scaffold]

LFM
1440p or better
27”-32”
$200 USD (roughly)
165hz+
<1ms response time
High quality panel
Black

[misty gyro]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-pg27qft2a-27-qhd-180-hz-ips-black/p/N82E16824028007
https://youtu.be/L97Ak-VfqGY?si=GstVS3M9k_9ESqWj

Even cheaper now than when it was reviewed as a great value

[thick scaffold]

Worth to wait for Black Friday?

[misty gyro]

$150 including shipping is about as low as it'll go

I'd just get it now

[thick scaffold]

Ok

[thick scaffold]

What’s a WiFi antena do on a monitor?

[misty gyro]

That depends, what monitor?

[thick scaffold]

The one you recommended

[misty gyro]

Ah, so what that will do is move the wifi signal away from your computer where there's lots of interference, and possibly up higher where you typically get better signal than under the desk.

[thick scaffold]

Oh so it’s a WiFi extension for my Pc

Awesome

If I don’t have a WiFi card in my motherboard, I would need to get one to utilize the WiFi antenna right?

[misty gyro]

Yes. They're pretty cheap, $25 for a good 6E card.

Something with Intel AX210

https://www.amazon.com/OKN-5400Mbps-5-2，802-11AX-Tri-Band-Ultra-Low/dp/B07SHPKKBR

[thick scaffold]

I think my Ethernet is fine

[fossil gust]

Koorui with another W
https://youtu.be/QVRsUz37yGw?si=0zXdO9bVEUiwu2CX

[lunar field]

[errant edge]

What's fast hva?
https://www.amazon.com/KTC-Gaming-Monitor-DisplayPort-AdaptiveSync/dp/B0D5QN27CY/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?

[visual pilot]

seems like Chinese VA, but slightly better than VA?
https://en.tclcsot.com/Innovativetechnology/315.html

[rocky cypress]

hva deez

[turbid star]

HyperVA

[prime sun]

I know this is probably a frequent question, but genuinely how bad is burn in on oleds nowadays? Or say ones like the one up a bit in tech deals

I dont think i could go through with an oled if its burning in 5 years in, and i hear people getting it MUCH sooner

[misty gyro]

It depends on how you use it

The panel generation matters too

[prime sun]

I wouldnt ever use it like this but hypothetically 8 hours a day every day just for a general sideline

[misty gyro]

A lot of what people think is burn in is actually fixable temporary image retention also

https://youtu.be/Fa7V_OOu6B8?si=4DkTrGRPx5Dtem1w

[prime sun]

Hm i see

[misty gyro]

Also of note is that edge lit LCD monitors die a lot faster than most of the OLEDs they have tested, but that's what you get for being cheap

https://youtu.be/wiO4b37RsIk?si=Qn3ZgSgiVOe9icbL

[thick scaffold]

Which monitor should I get?

MSI MAG 274QRFW 27" at $140 USD (180hz 1440p)
MSI 27" Gaming Monitor at $136 USD (170hz 1440p)

[rocky cypress]

The mag ig

[next dagger]

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/34-g85sb-oled-ultra-wqhd-0-03ms-175hz-curved-smart-gaming-monitor-ls34bg850snxza/?CID=afl-ecomm-rkt-cha-040122-url_Slickdeals+LLC&rktevent=Slickdeals+LLC_lw9MynSeamY-sRxhf_JPF_LgSU61atgzRA&ranMID=47773&ranEAID=lw9MynSeamY&ranSiteID=lw9MynSeamY-sRxhf_JPF_LgSU61atgzRA

thoughts on this monitor?

available for $500 through the app

[misty gyro]

For 500 that's pretty nice

[thick scaffold]

Dell 27 Gaming Monitor - G2725D good?

180hz, 1440p, 1ms, 27", AMD Freesync

[errant edge]

Depends on the price

[thick scaffold]

$160

$170

Is there something better under $200?

I do get 6% cash back at DELL for being a club member lol

[errant edge]

Refurb
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145613148025

Mini led VA
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7QsV3C/acer-nitro-xv275u-p3-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-umhxxaa302

[thick scaffold]

Enticing

[thick scaffold]

Not too concerned about mini led

The pros and cons don't seem important enough

[astral tendon]

https://www.costco.com/samsung-32"-class-viewfinity-uj59-4k-uhd-monitor.product.4000296342.html

Any obvious downsides to this monitor? looking for a cheaper 32" 4k solution

My dad is currently running 32" 4k@30hz so I figured I'd upgrade him to 32" 4k@60hz at least

[prime sun]

For the price you can get it its a bit hard to judge, its hardly much of an upgrade but if hes using a single monitor it might be worth it to get it and use that as the main and the old one secondary

Says 1bil colours so im guessing hdr10 but it doesnt specify

What gpu is he running?

[astral tendon]

I think the low 30hz refresh rate was bothering him

[astral tendon]

whatever is integrated on his work laptop

I doubt it can run higher than 4k60

[prime sun]

So hes just using this for work?

Or movies

Random browsing

[astral tendon]

Just doin work stuff and browsing yeah

[prime sun]

Hm, i dont see why it wouldnt be worth it

[astral tendon]

Ya I mean dudes been using his current one for a while I figured it would be an easy xmas gift

[prime sun]

Its a va panel so i doubt itll be delivering movie theater cinema but id say its not a bad monitor for that price at least

[astral tendon]

Good to hear, thanks for your input

[prime sun]

Hows he feel about a smaller monitor?

I think there are some better 1440p monitors valuewise imo

27-28"

[thick scaffold]

this a good monitor? https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q27G4XN-Adaptive-Sync-Adjustable-Zero-Bright-dot/dp/B0CPHW5JQY/ref=?th=1

I think this may be my last choice

Its AOC which has great reputation for warranty and customer service

180hz 1ms

Adaptive Sync

[patent lagoon]

okay so i got a 34" ultrawide and plugged it in and it worked for a minute then the screen went black

the pc still detects it but i've tried different cables and everything

any solutions?

[outer ember]

Help me pick a budget friendly monitor for gaming.
Mostly on PC with RTX2070super and some ps5 and Nintendo

I got to:
r27-qe asus
vg27aq (on sale)
dell g2724d

no idea what to pick

[errant edge]

The Dell at $150 is great but you might run into some gpu limitations at 1440p

If you've any plans to upgrade gpu relatively soon I wouldnt go 1080p tho

[outer ember]

Yeah I am thinking about it. And also think maybe to stay with a 1080p…
Currently all monitor cost the same for me. You would still go with the dell?

[errant edge]

Yeah

[outer ember]

Because of VRR or something else?

[errant edge]

It's just a good quality monitor

Good specs and the panel is good

[quiet finch]

is qd oled way better than nano ips? or just slightly? from the comparison videos I see they are the same

[errant edge]

Oled qd oled and woled are all way better than nano ips

[misty gyro]

The problem with comparison videos is they're limited by both video compression and the quality of the screen you're looking at it on, so yes it will look the same. The difference in person is dramatic.

[quiet finch]

Ah I see now

[tribal spire]

It's like

Legitimately world-changing

Once you see an OLED and like a GOOD quality IPS
You'll never be able to go back

[misty gyro]

Go to a best buy and check out the oled TV displays

[tribal spire]

Actually don't do that, you'll ruin IPS for yourself

:3

[quiet finch]

I do have nano ips and im using discord with it lol

should I wait for CES 2025?

[quiet finch]

way better than miniled as well?

[misty gyro]

Nano IPS is great for midrange, but OLED of any kind is the final boss. It's impressive how cheap they're getting now.

$400 for 1440p 240hz is insane

[quiet finch]

yeah i bought mine at 2021

[queen meteor]

Okay so looking for a new monitor on Black Friday deals (Specifially one with good HDR) and found this one
https://aoc.com/us/gaming/products/monitors/ag276qzd2

soooo is this a Gen3 QD-OLED? heard Gen1 and 2 had problems but Gen3 fixed a lot of them

Fallback is the Mini-LED AOC model (https://www.newegg.com/aoc-q27g3xmn-27-qhd-180-hz-144-hz-va-black-red/p/N82E16824160516?srsltid=AfmBOopOir9Ld14U_WP2fWNYPzlbVNyB9JegFW1f71a7Koo8DVion5ez), but getting a Gen3 QD-OLED for 150$ more is pretty worth it i'd say as it fixes all the deficiets with the budget mini-LED panel (also gives it Quantum Dots)

[fossil gust]

the ms values are all marketing and not standardized. I'd look at rtings.com for their testing if you want to judge panel quality

[thick scaffold]

dont worry i got a 240hz oled lol

[fossil gust]

Didn't realize that was an old message my bad

[thick scaffold]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D682HF6R?th=1

i think i got the best possible one

better than mini led

[fossil gust]

there's only a few oled panels out there that all the brands use and i think they're both good.

$400 is pretty nice

[thick scaffold]

$400 is a deal

also its gen 3 QD-OLED like alovon was talking about

[queen meteor]

For real?
Was mainly asking if it was but there's a way to confirm it is?

[thick scaffold]

im guessing this is what he meant

im not an oled pro

[queen meteor]

Well 3rd-Gen QD-OLED is this

The printing method in Gen3 and the retuned display controller apparently help a lot on the fringing and "Faux-Burn in" issue Gen1 and Gen2 had

[thick scaffold]

cool

[queen meteor]

Like from what can be told it being 16:9 should make it a Gen3 QD-OLED

[thick scaffold]

as long as its better i dont care

[tiny narwhal]

can someone tell me which would be better between https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-strix-27-oled-qhd-240hz-g-sync-freesync-gaming-monitor-with-hdr-hdmi-displayport-black/6588550.p?skuId=6588550 and https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-mag271qpxqdolede2-27-oled-qhd-240hz-0-03ms-adaptive-syncgaming-monitor-with-hdr400-displayport-hdmi-usb-c-black/6583876.p?skuId=6583876

[thick scaffold]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D682HF6R?th=1

It’s $400

[tiny narwhal]

Alright thank you

[tribal spire]

"3rd Gen QD-OLED" is just a 2nd gen panel with a better firmware

The catch is that most of the issues with 2nd gen appears to have been firmware issues

So it's better, but not like it's gonna change the world

But that QZD2 is genuinely a bargain

Exactly the monitor I'm intending to get

[turbid star]

The world if everyone had 3rd gen oled

[tiny narwhal]

anyone know what's up with this monitor, is it bad or something? or just an actual deal https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-XENEON-27QHD240-27-Inch-Monitor/dp/B0C3SFTL1X/ref=sr_1_3?crid=30UKJQEQLJYS3&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.SE9dy3qV-EmSye4jGoYjo8vxMokwMW6ddmKs9nO2qW6-AaU7B89_c-ndpTJYryWEjsWZNTJUgZaQiHyN7qRIs4HJId6dJ37cgg6zTl7vT5TZR-YhNuK2QkBqHc25YJ64VqSKegYmfjPNyq7M8enAestiBkkjzAe2bW0JA5jdFHRbyE7GeFtEbv6bfKCuTn3aftPQ8ZjRUKZ9QBhZjVrthY6PAaoJlaKz8I-zBs233wIqBtnm7MSibhUQ9s1mkKtg5adAEH-l8rhIT08B7OSfPCk_Me-rLrVOYbRq8rNEgaw.UT4AruDpt702BY-iUppMMuOffn8xYF0LQEcetyKMD4Y&dib_tag=se&keywords=gaming%2Bmonitor&qid=1732252017&refinements=p_n_feature_twenty-one_browse-bin%3A73824522011%2Cp_n_feature_eight_browse-bin%3A24003449011%2Cp_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A23595220011&rnid=23595186011&s=electronics&sprefix=gaming%2Bm%2Caps%2C111&sr=1-3&ufe=INHOUSE_INSTALLMENTS%3AUS_IHI_5M_HARDLINES&th=1

[turbid star]

Holy link

[misty gyro]

It's great, hard to pass up at that price. Other comparable OLEDs are on sale for as low as $400 today.

[queen meteor]

yeah, although thinking of wanting a 4K panel for my case which is giivng me a tiny bit of pause (As I want to do more work in UE5 but my 1080p secondary monitor hates it beucase window scaling makes it so the details tab is unusable without breaking into it's own window )

Apparently Rtings says this is decent but MonitorUnboxed says it lacks proper profiles for SDR/HDR mode switching so it breaks a lot of stuff unless you manually retune every time?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-nitro-27-mini-led-uhd-160hz-1ms-freesync-gaming-monitor-with-hdr1000-displayport-hdmi-black/6539416.p?skuId=6539416

[thick scaffold]

I had a dream about my OLED

[dull mortar]

I was looking for this monitor. Have anyone I here have this monitor and want to share they experience?

[misty gyro]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/tuf-gaming-vg259qm

[surreal quarry]

thoughts on going form m27q --> https://www.newegg.com/corsair-27qhd240-27-240-hz-xeneon-oled-black/p/N82E16824710007?Item=N82E16824710007

or could go qdoled https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-271qpx-qd-oled-e2-27-qhd-240-hz-metallic-black/p/N82E16824475394?Item=N82E16824475394

theres also this $400 qdoled that like just came out
https://www.amazon.com/AOC-AG276QZD2-Tournament-2560x1440-Compatible/dp/B0D682HF6R/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.q2W5kMbcr1iQRx2sloJqMAcswmfIIIvAREgdEYZjag4aLxCW6ICmEYYOA-S-KX6aJMeFqzbOgH1tOo7AQDyiHOwEV0FTa6zbFkvfCtHixMEzM5F9df1U98tCCOylslX-.Wg9_iLKaKbxNacielzp9xjjb4eLySHlHvK3SxCTgfv4&dib_tag=se&keywords=AG276QZD2&qid=1732305871&sr=8-1

[misty gyro]

Any one of those 3 would be good I think. Here's a quick comparison (271QPX is the same as the QRX but lower Hz, one less USB port and no USB PD)
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/msi-mpg-271qrx-qd-oled-vs-corsair-xeneon-27qhd240/47131/39531

[surreal quarry]

msi one seem to generally score better
How does qdoled compare to woled

wait GLOSSY TOO

OMG <3<3<3

[misty gyro]

They have a page for that too https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/qd-oled-vs-woled

[surreal quarry]

i have a pg42uq (i think? the big asus one) at home but i really miss oled at college

[misty gyro]

That's the down side of going OLED... you can't go back lol

[surreal quarry]

... i know

i probably should have remember that dorms are small and i wont have room for big screen lmao...oh well

[rocky cypress]

just get a big screen, you need nothing else frfr

living the high life