old-monitors-and-tv

[errant flax]

wow I am surprised. thought it was the opposite

[fading wyvern]

Qd is a bit better atm compared to Woled

I’m probably pulling numbers from thin air but like the original oled monitors were all under 280 nits of peak brightness

(Not good)

[errant flax]

gotcha.

Off topic but 1800R is very low curvature right?

[fading wyvern]

Yes it’s very low

[errant flax]

thinking that is probably best for me if so to make it better suited for things beyond gaming

[fading wyvern]

I will say a bit of a curve doesnt hurt thattt much

[errant flax]

My main use for a Ultra wide is I want a ton of horizonal screen realestate for coding. with entertainment/art as secondary use

[fading wyvern]

For things like professional art I’d steer clear of it

[errant flax]

I've tried for example 40in 16:9 before, the height benefit was non existent for me. actually made the experience worse because I kept cranking my neck.

[errant flax]

Art in my case would be Blender which I am still learning and digital painting which I use a graphic tablet for.

[fading wyvern]

You’ll be fine

[errant flax]

Aight. So I guess the target is to save about $1,000 for a ultrawide then.

[fading wyvern]

🫡 gl on the journey

[errant flax]

Much appreciated.

Do you think I can run Warframe and CoD around 100+ fps on my rig?

High settings

[fading wyvern]

Yeah about; 3440x1440 on my 3080ti in warzone hits a pretty consistent 160ish fps

Shouldn’t have any issues getting over 100

[errant flax]

Okay good, was worried I would upgrade pre-gpu and hit only 60fps which bugs me a lot.

am I reading this right? 1,000 nits in HDR mode

[fading wyvern]

Yeah you are

[errant flax]

Guess I better save up for sunglasses as well.

[fading wyvern]

It probably won’t really be that bright, and blah blah burn in

[errant flax]

Noticed that they mention their 3 year warranty includes burn-in.

[fading wyvern]

Yup seems pretty standard for oled panels to come with at least a couple years of coverage

[errant flax]

Rtings makes it sound like the samsung one does not come with burn-in protection

[fading wyvern]

They might be talking about how lg has screen refreshers or preventative care type things built in

There’s only two major oled techs on the market atm qdoled/samsung and woled/lg everyone buys the panels they each respectively make

I don’t have any experience owning a Samsung based qdoled atm so I can’t really comment or compare

[errant flax]

Aight.

[west orchid]

Is it normal that my skin feels warm when close to my tv when the screen is cold

[errant flax]

I'd assume your computer is near you?

Is the back of the monitor or TV cold as well?

[west orchid]

Yes. It feels more like UV radiation. Like when you start getting a sunburn.

[tribal spire]

I'm still debating whether to get a 1080p 170hz monitor for my 6700 XT
Or jump straight to 1440p 165hz

Both IPS

Would the 6700XT drive 60+ in 1440p?

[errant edge]

Yeah

[tribal spire]

The issue is that 1440p 165hz costs like 3 times the 1080p 170hz screen I can get

So it's like

Actually a question

And not just a case of "higher res+bigger panel better"

[misty gyro]

It depends on what you're playing. If you're playing high detail single player games, 1440p. If you're doing esports or other fast paced games, 1080p.

[tribal spire]

I'd like a mix of both
Though I primarily play somewhat older games lately, or modern strategy games

Classics like 2000s NFS games, Total War games, EU4 and HOI4, older COD games @misty gyro

[misty gyro]

What I'd do then is get a decent 1080p that I'd be happy with for now, and when I feel the itch to upgrade it that's still an option down the line.

[tribal spire]

Yeah that was the plan anyway

[granite chasm]

Hey does anyone have a recommendation for a 1440p or 4k monitor 27-32 inches budget of about 200-500 165-170hz refresh rate

[quartz sandal]

200-500 euro? dollar? What country you in? It effects it significantly

[granite chasm]

Sorry $200-500 US dollar @quartz sandal forgot to mention that my apologies

[quartz sandal]

What gpu will you be using with the monitor?

[granite chasm]

I’m using a 6800 then upgrading to a 7900xtx in a month or 2

[quartz sandal]

Alright well 6800 would struggle with 4k but xtx would be really well with it, could be used for higher refresh 1440p though so depends what you want

@small warren you seen anything about the gigabyte gs27q? Can't find anything on it but its like 170 and looks like a g27q refessh specs wise

[small warren]

Fal seems to know the most about it

Seems to be a budget cut down variant of the old model

no kvm etc

Apparently the curved ones are still pass

[small warren]

can you stretch to $640

KTC has a 240HZ OLED with a KVM that regularly is on sale on amazon for 640

Pair that with a 7900XT instead you'd love life a lot more imo

Just cos sub 500 doesn't have many decent options for the high end gpus yet

[granite chasm]

Yea I can stretch to $640

I’ll check out that monitor

[small warren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BBhv6h/aoc-ag276qzd-265-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-ag276qzd

sorry this is the KTC one

https://www.amazon.com/KTC-OLED-Monitor-Built-DisplayPort1-4/dp/B0CRDRL92Z

It's not on sale rn

but usually is for 640

the AOC is the same panel but 650 atm

So if you can't wait it's decent

All traces of the mini-led gone now

Lol

[granite chasm]

Yea I’ll check it out when it’s cheaper I have a asus tuf vg27aq but it’s dying out the color is fading out but do you guys recommend gigabyte monitors I’ve seen a couple on sale for the refresh rate and resolution I want but I’ve read reviews about ghosting

[small warren]

the ghosting affects their va panels

Not their better IPS ones I've found

like the M27Q/Q X etc

Nowadays tho we don't really recommend them much

MSI has a QLED called the QPF at about

$270

It's probably the best in the 200-500 category rn

but it's just

so weak for an XTX lol

XTX will play on a much higher spec monitor than that, you don't want to bottleneck yourself with the monitor imo

Better to get a 650-700 7900XT imo than a 930-ish XTX and use the extra on the OLED

7900XTX isn't worth the 33% price jump, you don't get that much fps out of it

[granite chasm]

I’m buying the xtx from a friend for 700 and yea If I buy the MSI monitor you mentioned I would use it on my gaming pc until I upgraded to the xtx so I don’t bottleneck myself

[small warren]

I'd ride with what you have rn until you can get the oled imo

the VG27AQ really that bad rn?

[granite chasm]

Yea it’s super bad idk if it got damaged when I was moving or what but the color is super bad and the monitor is flickering and randomly blacks out

[small warren]

have you tried changing the display cable

when old cables die you get weird stuff like that

[granite chasm]

Yea I switched from a new display port cable to another then even tried hdmi and none worked

[small warren]

seems fine using another monitor

?

[granite chasm]

Yea other monitors work but theyre work monitors at 1080p

[small warren]

sadge

does sound buggered

[quartz sandal]

Neither does g27q tho so

[small warren]

wat

[quartz sandal]

Sorry meant to reply to the kvm bit

[small warren]

kvm just one example

I think they all lack usb iirc

[quartz sandal]

No i mean like g27q non s version has no kvm either so that's not new

Cuz for 170$ it's looking like a banging deal

[small warren]

I-

I knowwwww

Look at M27SQ

reeeee

[quartz sandal]

Ohhh

[errant flax]

How bad is text clarity on oleds compared to IPS

[fading wyvern]

Depends on the oled

Woled the newest implementation has the best text clarity so far

Last gens is pretty bad, qdoled has a weird magenta shift

ips as long as it’s normal subpixel will have great text clarity

[errant flax]

ahh gotcha. I was wondering because I am going to be reading code for many hours a day.

[errant flax]

https://rows.com/calculators/pixels-per-inch-calculator

So so just did the PPI for a 34in ultra wide at 3440x1440. The result is 110ppi and I was wondering if that is low for text clarity?

Same price and resolution which would provide a better experience? Gaming and Coding:

• VA 160hz with HDR10
• IPS 144hz with HDR400

Debating on doing a smaller upgrade to a IPS or VA monitor first to test out how I like Ultra wide and it being curved then save up for a OLED upgrade down the line if I enjoy it.

[visual pilot]

HDR10 is proper HDR, HDR400 is more of a haphazard thing that's slapped on just because the panel can do 400nits, but I'd prob get the IPS panel still

[errant flax]

Even with HDR10?

Here are the two I am looking btw.

https://www.amazon.com.mx/LG-Ultragear-34GP63A-B-Pulgadas-compatibilidad/dp/B0B928B6BC/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?crid=YG2846EPTD9P&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Faw0iPZ3PPDgjFbRxzMvxDCQ1UJm8KUgwb5qSRsJv8eNp8n2gZOF-p4tDAGIveSIC9WILvMY8xHQSuGNnF4r0fNDO3PG8PQz0djmJjazhW1XK5pMBG49Vdd_97wun9y_InVFTzJ549WZq6wK-bHzSdto8dahUYUzE2JVeVGzb0278hw2_NFr1WlgD2Tchn9HPad42c5dLYZcz8zE2V4wWA.-D_zd_MtHwLJg7ZvAWJy2R3JbPXFZCGp6B0RyT0WoHA&dib_tag=se&keywords=4k+ultrawide&qid=1712773310&sprefix=4k+ultrawid%2Caps%2C178&sr=8-7&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.8c7b929b-80a3-4a0f-851f-6de37ce634c2#aw-udpv3-customer-reviews_feature_div

https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/aw/d/B09GWDJ7JD/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?smid=A1G99GVHAT2WD8&psc=1

[fossil gust]

IPS if you want better motion clarity/less smearing, VA for like everything else: better contrast, HDR, black levels, refresh rate (though 144vs 160 isn't a huge jump

The smearing kinda depends on the quality of the VA panel

Uhh, also Rtings is saying the LG 34GP83A-B is IPS?

Maybe there's a VA variant idk

[errant flax]

is it really possible for a $450 monitor to be Curved, IPS, 144Hz (160Hz OC), and have HDR10?

I won't complain if so, just seems like a stretch.

[errant flax]

smearing as in images becomming blurry?

[fossil gust]

Sort of, it's usually seen on dark areas of the image

IMO the blur from TAA is far worse than the VA smearing on the 2 panels I have

Iirc it's the black to grey transition that is slow

[errant flax]

is it as bad as this?

Looked up VA smearing then this showed up

[misty gyro]

Eh, sort of. HDR10 certification only requires it to be able to accept the signal and hit 600 nits peak. HDR10+ requires 1000 nits and lots of dimming zones and that's true HDR.

[visual pilot]

Well, still better than hdr400 by quite a bit

[visual pilot]

depends on the panel, can be better, can be worse, some va panels can have pretty bad ghosting, some are just fine

[misty gyro]

Yes better than the super entry level version

[errant flax]

anyone know about these panels?

[visual pilot]

btw the rtings review is on the 34gp83a-b not the 34gp63a-b

hence the rtings review says ips

[visual pilot]

weirdly enough, it seems hdr10 actually has no mininum peak luminance, that panel that has hdr10 is only rated for 300nits for example

seems to just say that it can do 10 bit color

looks like hdr10 and hdr10+ are more TV standards with kinda set requirements for the content but doesn't seem to have a hard limit for the monitors

[misty gyro]

Hmm that makes sense actually

[visual pilot]

rtings says content for hdr10 is mastered for 400-4000nits but uh this says hdr10 and it can't hit 400nits

[misty gyro]

Maybe it's not VESA certified

[visual pilot]

yea that seems to be the main thing, HDR10 and HDR10+ are done by an alliance, HDR400 and up are separate VESA certifications

[misty gyro]

Gotta love confusing, arbitrary standards

[visual pilot]

found a better source
"According to the CEA's Video Division Board, a TV, monitor or projector may be referred to as an HDR Compatible Display if it meets the following criteria:

1. It must have at least one interface that supports HDR signaling as defined in CEA-861-F, as extended by CEA-861.3.

2. It must receive and process static HDR metadata compliant with CEA-861.3 for uncompressed video.

3. It must receive and process HDR10 Media Profile* from IP, HDMI or other video delivery sources. Other media profiles may also be supported. [*The HDR10 Media Profile is defined as a) EOTF: SMPTE ST 2084; b) Color Sub-sampling: 4:2:0 (for compressed video sources); c) Bit Depth: 10 bit; d) Color Primaries: ITU-R BT.2020; and e) Metadata: SMPTE ST 2086, MaxFALL, MaxCLL.]

4. It must apply an appropriate Electro-Optical Transfer Function (EOTF), before rendering the image."

HDR10 has no brightness requirements

the Consumer Electronics Association is in charge of it

wacky standards are wacky

So basically, HDR10 is only better than hdr400 in terms of guaranteed 10 bit, that's it

[errant flax]

well that's messed up.

So long story short, go with the IPS one then.

[misty gyro]

Seems that's the move yes

[fossil gust]

That seems pretty extreme imo

https://youtu.be/0trRhu0fKdk

This is a good example of what it can do to dark foliage

[errant flax]

gotcha

[tall coral]

What type of channel is this? Is anyone online?

[errant flax]

Channel: to talk about screens
Activity: Usually so long as someone asks about a screen

[errant edge]

Just got this for $50 after a $25 gift card for a side monitor
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TNM8L6S?psc=1&smid=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&ref_=chk_typ_quicklook_titleToDp

It's replacing my 1050p TN panel

Dub?

Was between that, g27f 2, and a koorui 1440p 144hz VA monitor, all used on amazon warehouse

[tribal spire]

Holy crap that's the same as my current crappy 75hz IPS cost

That's a definite dub

[errant edge]

I just found out it's a TN panel and canceled the order

[tribal spire]

Ah yeah that makes sense

[turbid kayak]

huge dub

but it is a tn panel

[turbid kayak]

just saw this lol

still a great deal

[fossil gust]

Ehh

$75 for a TN vs more like $100 for an IPS or VA

[near zinc]

looking for a 4k monitor thats preferrably around 200-250 144hz any suggestions?

[errant edge]

Gl with that one chief

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GzWzK8/gigabyte-m28u-280-3840x2160-144-hz-monitor-m28u-sa

[misty gyro]

Not gonna find anything worth getting at that price

You can barely find acceptable 1440p at that range

[quartz sandal]

Actually good options are creeping under 200

[raw ingot]

^

but $250 for 4k?

good luck right now

[woeful badge]

good 1080p 24inch? as high refresh rate as possible & budget under $250

[errant edge]

What cpu and gpu do you have

And do you play very, very competitively

Like tournaments and the likes

[woeful badge]

i5 12400f 6700xt

Its for when i go to college so not very competitively

but still good enough so that im running smooth frames

i have a aw2521hf but its a bit chunky

[errant edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hCdd28

[visual girder]

https://www.amazon.com/acer-KA242Y-Widescreen-Monitor-Renewed/dp/B0CGVR98HW/

[visual girder]

Are there any 120-144hz IPS monitors below $80?

[misty gyro]

Sometimes

Random sales happen

[visual girder]

I had this one priced at $80, but I cannot find why

[errant edge]

Try amazon warehouse

[visual girder]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B9tLrH/msi-pro-mp243xw-238-1920-x-1080-100-hz-monitor-pro-mp243xw

@errant edge ?

[errant edge]

Meh

[odd umbra]

I assume this channel is closest to monitors/tv as any other…
Anyone have experience with using one of these for switch games? Never owned a projector and not familiar with the tech specs.
https://a.co/d/bz7sUn6

[misty gyro]

Cheap projectors are very much "you get what you pay for"

[odd umbra]

Yeah, I mean generally. For example then, what would be the budget alternative that would make a for a good switch gaming projector?

[misty gyro]

https://www.rtings.com/projector/reviews/best/cheap

The ones worth recommending are over $400

Anything less than that you make SERIOUS compromises like low brightness (which is what the one you linked suffers from, 300 lumens is not a lot and you need a pitch black room and a very short throw to the projector screen to see it clearly)

[rocky cypress]

the question is why do you want a projector for switch gaming

and yeah, 300 lumens on a projector is essentially useless

you would be better off buying a computer monitor than that

if you need a cheap projector, look at the used market for some epson, benq, panasonic, or whatever projectors

you may need to replace the bulb though since most of those projectors are using high pressure bulbs

[lucid spindle]

https://a.co/d/3vIrmT7 is dis a good monitor

[errant edge]

its ok

best youd find around that price, but if you can spend around $40-50 more you'd get a pretty nice monitor

one of these three https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZRXqMV

[vocal aspen]

Looking for a good monitor for 3440x1440 for gaming and work. Do I need to be worried about burn in with OLED?

[misty gyro]

What budget for the monitor?
OLED burn in is negligible on modern panels. It's barely noticeable after a year and a half of constant stress testing.

[vocal aspen]

$1200 ish give or take

[visual girder]

For the monitor?
that buys my entire wishlist build twice over

[vocal aspen]

yes lol

[misty gyro]

You could go for this then. It's a great monitor overall, OLED response times are fantastic for gaming plus 240Hz. Unless the work you're doing needs straight lines, those might appear curved a little due to the aggressive curve, it should be fine for that.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CFJgXL/lg-45gr95qe-b-445-3440-x-1440-240-hz-curved-monitor-45gr95qe-b
If you want something a little smaller and/or prefer flat panels, https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FFLdnQ/lg-ultragear-34gs95qe-b-340-3440-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-34gs95qe-b
You might find this interesting/informative for burn in: https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results

[vocal aspen]

Thanks for the help

[visual girder]

Spend the rest on me

[fossil gust]

3. No sweepstakes/ giveaways, e-begging, trading or selling on this server.

Not to minimod but it's a little weird to be asking random people for handouts

[misty gyro]

He's right, I know it's a bit but it's getting a little annoying

[fossil gust]

Yeah I guess part of what I meant by random people was those who don't know it's a bit

[cerulean mountain]

Do they make a chromecast or other device you can cast to with A/V out instead of HDMI? Trying to watch some old anime on my ancient crt TV.

[visual girder]

It was supposed to be a running joke of me being poor, I’ll ease up on it

[visual girder]

Thanks for callin me out, I’ve been pushing the joke a little too hard

[misty gyro]

You can get a powered adapter. It's important that it's power since it's converting digital to analog.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/onn-HDMI-to-Composite-AV-Adapter-2-6-Mini-USB-Cable-4-1-USB-Wall-Adapter-Black-100008628/438464292?athbdg=null%26athbdg%3DL1600_L1600

[vocal aspen]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-ultragear-45-oled-curved-wqhd-240hz-0-03ms-freesync-and-nvidia-g-sync-compatible-gaming-monitor-with-hdr10-black/6530356.p?skuId=6530356. This one is available with open box for $930 plus tax. Damn this monitor is huge in person lol

[vocal aspen]

I saw the updated model on display and honestly not 100% impressed with PPI it has

[misty gyro]

45 diagonal inches is massive until you get used to it

[vocal aspen]

Yes I currently have a 34" ultrawide with very mild curve to it. But its at 100hz and not very bright

[vocal aspen]

Asus Vg35vq

[vocal aspen]

I bought the 45” LG last night. Unfortunately the PPI is very unpleasant to play games with. The screen is also not very bright. I wound up returning it

[fossil gust]

34" is probably the better size for 1440p ultrawide

Then again the way you percive ppi depends on how far you're sitting

[cerulean mountain]

Was wondering if I'm thinking correctly on this "audio solution"? I should be able to use a RCA (white and red only) cable to 3.5mm female jack on the "monitor out" on the TV to get wired stereo headphones to work? Or would it be better to take the audio cables going to the input and use a female rca to female 3.5mm jack cable?

[vocal aspen]

Agree 34” looks pretty good when I’m sitting the desk. I need to be able to do work with this monitor also. It is overwhelming on the 45”. 34” is more manageable

Maybe I’ll upgrade to a much nicer 34” ultrawide with 240hz Oled

[visual girder]

@misty gyro https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Gaming-1440P-Monitor-VG27AQ3A/dp/B0BHKSNR22?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Gaming-1440P-Monitor-VG27AQ3A/dp/B0BZR9TMBJ?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

Which one would be better? They’re the same price.
Friend wants to know.

@deep fern

[deep fern]

I'm more a fan of 27"

[visual girder]

Which one would be better quality?

(Regardless of size)

[deep fern]

I'm having trouble finding smaller details but they both look pretty comparable

[visual girder]

I can’t find what kind of panel the first is

[tribal spire]

MSI G2412F worth getting for 135 bucks?

24" 1080p 144hz Rapid IPS (with optional 180hz OC)

[fossil gust]

Personally I'd try to bump the budget up a little and get a 1440p panel

[molten vault]

M27Q or ROG XG27ACS? If you have any other suggestions in this price range I’d be willing to consider other options. I need a replacement for my main monitor as my old monitor died.

[surreal quarry]

i know its a little more than you might wanna spend but
AW2724DM $300 https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/alienware-aw2724dm

or could go oddysey G5 for $200 but personally i'd get the alienware https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/odyssey-g5-s27ag50
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B096YMQ3C8?tag=rtings-mn-p-amazon-20&ie=UTF8&asc_campaign=&asc_source=&asc_refurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rtings.com%2Fmonitor%2Freviews%2Fsamsung%2Fodyssey-g5-s27ag50&th=1

[molten vault]

I feel like it would be more or less the same performance as the M27Q or the Asus one.

For basically more money

Plus Alienware is like known for charging more than what you’re actually getting.

[surreal quarry]

i mean fair. it looks a bit better, but its up to you if the $50 price difference is worth it

[molten vault]

Thank you for these options though. The Samsung ones look decent but lack some of the features of the other monitors.

[vocal aspen]

What's everyone's opinion on switching from 3440x1440 to 4k for gaming and work? I was looking at 32" 240hz monitors. Is the trade worth it for more detailed graphics over the wider picture?

[fossil gust]

For work, I'd think ultrawide would be better unless you really want the resolution for photo editing or something

Could also just have a second monitor next to the 4k panel though

IMO for gaming 1440p > 4k, it's a better balance of image quality to power requred to push frames. that being said, ultrawide gaming can be a lot more demanding so moving to 16:9 4k may not be a huge perf hit

[vocal aspen]

The work ill be doing is emails , zoom calls, nothing like photo editing. I am just concerned with burn in. I tried a 45" LG ultrawide 3440x1440 and the picture was horrendous. The PPI bugged me and the extreme curve wasnt comfortable for anything but gaming. I'll either go 32" 4k or an ultrawide thats about 34".

https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-tuf-gaming-vg35vq-35/p/N82E16824281004?Item=N82E16824281004 This is what I have currently. Ok picture but doesn't get as bright as i'd like. Colors are not as vibrant as newer monitors either

[misty gyro]

Since you mentioned burn in I'm guessing OLED has come into consideration.
Don't worry about burn in. It'll be barely noticeable after a few years of normal use thanks to modern pixel cleaning techniques.

[vocal aspen]

Yes I was looking at Oled for the very vibrant colors. Unfortunately no stores have these monitors I want on display. I would like to see before I buy.

[fossil gust]

iirc there aren't many manufacturers doing OLED panels for monitors rn

So they're all gonna be similar

[devout geyser]

Looking to replace a cover/stand for an LG16MQ70 if anyone has any suggestions?

[kindred umbra]

jus got a qdoled 27in for order, will let yall know how it compares to the lg oled when it comes

[meager wadi]

https://a.co/d/bU9pPFw

Is this a good monitor?

I currently have a Gigabyte G27QC. Want to switch back to a IPS panel for 1440P.

[errant edge]

I would avoid the GS line

Panel isn't good

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kfMcKX

The MSI one is fast IPS

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Lv4Zxr/acer-acer-nitro-xv272u-w2bmiiprx-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-umhx2aa201

[meager wadi]

Yeah I don't really need 240hz anyways lol. Might go with the MSI one.

[prime kayak]

Is it possible to get 240hz at 2k, with a 15 or 20ft cable?
Or maybe 2 cables with some sort of signal booster in between?

Im wanting my computer on a desk next to me, and proper cable management takes a lot of cable length (going from this desk to the ground, following the wall, up the other desk and into the computer)

[small warren]

Possible but you absolutely need a optical fibre one and it won't be cheap

Looking at $100+ for this cable

[prime kayak]

So any fiber optic cable I can find are all DP 1.4
Is that still better than the newest DP 2.1 normal cables?

[small warren]

You won't find DP2.1 in that length as optical fibre for a while yet (Or rather, you likely can but for a very high price). DP1.4 wasn't long ago not available at that length either as fibre

If you use anything else you'll experience signal loss. You can use a repeater but they're generally not great in my experience

Often still not perfect in signal integrity and have a limited life

Fibre is expensive but it's a surefire one and done solution, just be gentle with the cable

They aren't made to take bending stress like normal cables are

[prime kayak]

Do you think it's probably worth just waiting for the 2.1 Optic cable? Think it'll release in the next year or so? Or it's actually going to be years

[small warren]

They may already exist but either you've not found them yet or they're being sold by a direct manufacturer for a grossly high price

I'd love to not sound sarcastic about this but I'm not in any position to google right now, sorry

[prime kayak]

You are totally fine hahaha

[small warren]

You can wait but for 240hz at 1440p it's very achievable on 1.4

[prime kayak]

I have not been able to find them

[small warren]

I paid something like $200 for a DP 1.4 @ 30ft

[prime kayak]

Sheeesh

[small warren]

All other options were terrible, but fibre has lasted

It's just how it is, you either by cheap and refresh often, or buy expensive once and never have trouble again

[prime kayak]

yeah I have noticed I need to replace cables often which is annoying

[small warren]

Signal integrity can't hold up over 5m, and some cables don't even reach 5m at that

15ft you might get away with a normal cable, no guarantee

I would really just get something like a cablematters fibre 5m off amazon

A lot of people give them smack but their fibre cables are good

I have a half dozen of them with no issues

[prime kayak]

roger! Thank you!

[stuck breach]

I’m thinkin’ about heading down the OLED rabbit hole. What’s your guys’ favorite 1440p OLED panels 👀

Probably heading to local micro center this week to eye what they have in stock

[errant edge]

The cheapest

There's very few OLED panels out atm

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cRNxFT/lg-27gr95qe-b-265-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-27gr95qe-b

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zv3NnQ/msi-meg-342c-qd-oled-342-3440-x-1440-175-hz-curved-monitor-meg-342c-qd-oled

[stuck breach]

I was looking at the LG. I wanna say the MC has it in stock, hopefully when I go in a couple days they’ll have it still

[kindred umbra]

had a 1st gen woled panel and seen the new one, liked both but i got a new qd oled that arrives this wednesday

im hoping it doesnt have the same coating issues as my a95l

[whole moat]

i want a second monitor, but i dont know much about them, the one i have now is pretty good but i want an upgrade to use as my main monitor. im mostly just going to be using it for gaming, my budget is a little flexible but im thinking $500-$600. does anyone have any suggestions?

[small warren]

https://www.amazon.com/KTC-OLED-Monitor-Built-DisplayPort1-4/dp/B0CRDRL92Z/
^$629.99

Hopefully you have the gpu to run it tho

[misty gyro]

If you're in the $600 range then you're getting into OLED territory for sure

[whole moat]

whats different with oleds?

[misty gyro]

Everything

Near instant response times, perfect contrast ratio, excellent colors

[small warren]

End game.

(Provided you take care of it)

[whole moat]

oaahhh i see

[whole moat]

ofc ofc..

[whole moat]

LMAO NOO IT WENT UP TO 800 TODAY

[small warren]

nope

omg windows

[whole moat]

oh! i just gotta go to prime bwbwbw

[whole moat]

im gonna research a little more, but i'll probably get this one!

tysm :)

[small warren]

np

[stuck breach]

Micro center ended up price matching an LG 27GS95QE-B so I got it for about 730. MSRP $900 lol, I’m glad I checked other retailers before going

The difference in blacks & bleed from my LG IPS was immediately night and day

[upper hull]

Brightness is kinda not that good on oleds yet imo

Get mini led with fald

[misty gyro]

HDR doesn't get good until the $800 range anyway

[raw ingot]

^

Oled also has unmatched response time

Those deep blacks too

[stuck breach]

I’ve had to get used to turning lights off to use the monitor because of the lower brightness and all but it’s been so worth it

[kindred umbra]

jus got my new monitor in, text fringing is so much worse no it compared to my woled

[small warren]

Damn

[kindred umbra]

im sure i can adapt to it, but i didnt think itd be this noticeable

but thats my only complaint rn compared to woled besides my monitor lamp not fitting properly bc the heatsink on the back

everything else feels like an improvement, but I dont know how much better it is compared to newer gen woled monitors

[small warren]

Can you increase window scaling to fix it?

There has to be a point surely where the fringing isn't as extreme

[kindred umbra]

still p noticeable, gonna stick with it for a week or so and see how it goes

everything else is super nice, so im willing to cope a bit, if not ill snag lgs refreshed 27oled

[astral tendon]

https://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-VX2428-FreeSync-Frameless-DisplayPort/dp/B0BZTCY4G6/

Is this a good monitor?

I have a bunch of coupons to use at staples and this is one of the only 24" 1080p gaming monitors they have

[visual girder]

Seems like you have to overclocked it to get to 180hz

[errant edge]

Meh

There's better options

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zcqrxr/msi-g244f-238-1920-x-1080-170-hz-monitor-g244f

What gpu do you have?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3fzXsY/msi-g244pf-e2-238-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-g244pf-e2

If you've a 1440p capable gpu
https://www.ebay.com/itm/386891577141?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Ok6NaWEKSPa&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[astral tendon]

https://www.asus.com/us/displays-desktops/monitors/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-vg24vq1by/

What about this one

[astral tendon]

560 rn but planning to upgrade to a 6750xt for 1080p

[errant edge]

the ones i linked have better panels

[errant edge]

especially this one

[whole moat]

i got it by the way!

ahh i cant send pictures

i'll send it in dms

[small warren]

Ooo nice, how is it?

[whole moat]

i didnt even realise how gray my blacks were on my old monitor lol

[small warren]

Welcome to oled lol

It do be like that

[small warren]

Note for everyone, FO32U2P Aorus

First DP2.1 monitor, 4k 240hz OLED

No DSC

First of it's kind

[visual pilot]

What even has a dp2.1 output lol

[small warren]

XTX

Pretty sure both are DP80

[visual pilot]

Oh wait amd does 2.1, just Nvidia doesn't

[small warren]

No nvm I'm apparently wrong?

XTX is dp54?

It's 2.1 but not full?

Hold up

Yeah it's dp54

So 54gbps or 4k144 no dsc

Ok, I learnt something new

So ye u right @visual pilot only the w7900 can apparently do 4k240hz lmao

So only one card in existence can run it at full uncompressed 4K 240, and that same card runs like a 7900 XT lol

[visual pilot]

Lmfao

A monitor of the future, only for the future

[small warren]

All future no bottleneck

[visual pilot]

Eyes will be the bottleneck, need eyes mk 2

[misty gyro]

I'll just wait for uncompressed 8k 480

[small warren]

https://youtu.be/1_ZMmMWi_yA?si=YXHxHhHjmXSTpFT8

I've seen this before but figured it was just a one off thing

[misty gyro]

It's most common when you try to use VRR and BFI at the same time

So most don't let you do that now

[limpid slate]

Hey, anyone got some recommendations on a decent monitor for under $100?

[errant edge]

If you can do just over $100
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zcqrxr/msi-g244f-238-1920-x-1080-170-hz-monitor-g244f

Otherwise one min

[limpid slate]

That is close enough for me

[errant edge]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266612226728?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=IZv0H-iASTG&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
https://www.ebay.com/itm/266747962542?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=IZv0H-iASTG&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Alr had the links if you want to take a look

But ye first one is pretty nice

[limpid slate]

Much appreciated

[narrow tree]

anyone own the new msi mpg 271qrx? Just got mine and have a question

[kindred umbra]

wat question

[fossil gust]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[rancid cedar]

Anyone got advice on a good 55" TV, looking to have a good picture quality TV for the basement. Hoping there's good ones for around 500, if possible.

[misty gyro]

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/budget

[rancid cedar]

You are the best! Everytime iv come here you have the answers!

[misty gyro]

It's easy to have the answers when it's common questions

[modest palm]

Falcie is a robot

AI

[misty gyro]

Things get more tricky when people ask things like "I need a 95" TV with displayport for under $1000"

[rancid cedar]

I wish I could get 95".... wife won't allow it haha.

[misty gyro]

I wish I could too but it wouldn't physically fit my living room lol

[rancid cedar]

Just gotta find a way! I got a Saw haha

[misty gyro]

SHHHHH they're not supposed to know that!

[misty gyro]

Can that saw cut brick? Because my fireplace is the thing in the way

Brick fireplace with concrete and cobblestone

[visual girder]

I need a 50” box tv, with borderlands display

[misty gyro]

Check your local used market unless you feel like spending $500 on shipping to make sure it isn't damaged and put a wrap on it

[visual girder]

It was a meme

[misty gyro]

I know

[rancid cedar]

Anyone have experience with mounts? There's so many different designs. Are the single arm mounts that trust worthy? One suggested with tv I was looking at is a single arm

[misty gyro]

As long as the arm you're looking at is rated for the weight of the tv plus a little breathing room, it's usually fine

Avoid cheapo badly rated ones from amazon too

[rancid cedar]

TV is 45 mount is 55. Is that enough breather? Or I wanna find one maybe to 75?

[misty gyro]

Should be good

Odds are the spec includes the stand

Unless it explicitly says with and without weights

[kindred umbra]

u6n prob the best tv in that price range rn

[upper hull]

good deal

[misty gyro]

That's almost as much as a 1440p 240Hz OLED

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cRNxFT/lg-27gr95qe-b-265-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-27gr95qe-b

And I would vastly prefer the OLED over anything for gaming

[upper hull]

That is a oled

[misty gyro]

Oh I missed that

[upper hull]

Same WOLED panel

[misty gyro]

derp

Hang on I'll check reviews to make sure they didn't bork the firmware

Auto brightness limit can't be turned off (probably a panel saving feature but would be nice to be able to control that).
The normal text issues with the RWBG subpixels.
Input switching is screwy but for a single input it's fine.

I'd call those acceptable. Good deal indeed.

[upper hull]

Yeah my Msi 271qrx opened my eyes to it
But that is 360hz and in the 800 range

[granite narwhal]

Good evening, is this good? Sceptre Curved 24.5-inch Gaming Monitor up to 240Hz 1080p R1500 1ms DisplayPort x2 HDMI x2 Blue Light Shift Build-in Speakers, Machine Black 2023 (C255B-FWT240) https://a.co/d/dsgyo8e

[misty gyro]

Eh, not really. You can get 1440p 240Hz for $20 more.

IPS too, not that curved VA garbage

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C1T35BCF

Or if you're going 1080p high refresh for esports you can do this 360Hz for $206 + shipping https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BT4ZL24J

@granite narwhal^

Or this Dell 280Hz https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-25-gaming-monitor-g2524h/apd/210-bhyc/monitors-monitor-accessories

I completely missed that this was amazon.ca because of the link. 1440p 240 is out for that budget in this case, but the Dell is still a good option.

[granite narwhal]

TUF F15 I just received is only 60hz and the guy ignored my question whether it's 144. It was dusty and people are careless pigs sometimes. No wonder a hinge is a bit off. Beautiful though 🙂

[granite narwhal]

Decided I want qhd

[granite chasm]

Anyone know if https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824710008 is a good monitor for a 4k monitor?

I can’t find many reviews on it

[misty gyro]

At that price I'd rather get OLED

Or at least something with better HDR

IGN gave it a 6/10, and while they're not the best source, coming from them that's pretty low

Oh ew it's edge lit

Yeah that's way not worth the price

[granite chasm]

Can you send some 4k or oled monitor recommendations I was originally looking for 1440p but now that I have a 4090 I decided to go 4k or oled @misty gyro 32 inch is the biggest I’ll go around $700-800 budget

[misty gyro]

M32U

[misty gyro]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fm7G3C/gigabyte-m32u-315-3840-x-2160-144-hz-monitor-m32u

[fossil gust]

might check ou the gigabyte gs27QC as well

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/dell-s2722dgm-vs-gigabyte-gs27qc/24245/41721?usage=3623&threshold=0.10
not as bright as the Dell panel but better response times

I have that same dell panel and run it at ~65% brightness fwiw

[errant edge]

The gs line is not great

[fossil gust]

rtings seems to like this one

for gaming at least

[errant edge]

These are all better choices imo

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VDFtDZ

The gs qc line is VA, the newer GS non QC line is ips but cheap IPS

[fossil gust]

I was just assuming that they wanted VA/curved n offering something better/cheaper

[errant edge]

Fair

That is one of the better curved options

[raw ingot]

you can set it to 144

it's in display settings

besides gaming laptops typically switch to 60hz when in battery

[errant edge]

Careless pig is wild

I scratched the hell outta my laptops lid. Mb I should've carried it around every day of school instead of in my backpack ig

[granite narwhal]

There is no option other than 60

[raw ingot]

You might need to install igpu drivers

Or armoury crate

[mighty tide]

anyone gotten their hands on the 321URX?

thinking about getting it

selling my dual monitor setup for 1 due to space constraints, and wanna go for oled/micro-led or whatever that has better colors.

[pseudo crow]

is screenmoove reputable? im looking to buy the koorui24e3 somewhere and they seem to be selling it cheap but im not trusting lol
https://screenmoove.com/products/koorui-24e3-24-ips-full-hd-1920-x-1080-165hz-gaming-monitor

[silver kiln]

Can thunderbolt 5 do 4k240 from mac to monitor?

[misty gyro]

It supports DP 2.1 but most monitors don't, even the 4k240 ones are limited to 4k144 without compression.

[small warren]

And not all dp2.1, like hdmi 2.1 are equal either

Ubr40 ubr56 ubr80

All 2.1 iirc

Maybe just the latter 2

[turbid star]

I wish it were 💀

At least it's not named dp2.1 gen 2x1

2x2, 2x3 etc

[steep bobcat]

im thinking of getting the 24g2sp at microcenter or getting the 24e3

yo the koorui is on sale wtfffff

$108

[uneven stone]

Good display?
MSI ARTYMIS 323CQR 32" LED Curved QHD FreeSync Monitor

Refurbished for $200, 1440p

165hz

[tribal spire]

IPS or VA?

[fossil gust]

$200 for refurb 1440p is high unless it's an excellent panel

Also imo 27" is better for 1440p

[errant edge]

32" isn't bad, still solid pixel density

better than 1080p at 24" iirc

[uneven stone]

Not sure

All I can find is LCD

There, finally

VA

[errant edge]

are you absolutely set on that screen size?

[uneven stone]

Current display is an HP 25X, I don't need a bigger display, but it would be nice and really I want 1440p and a higher refresh rate

[errant edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RktLrH/msi-g272qpf-e2-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-g272qpf-e2

one of those two

[uneven stone]

Any curved ones?

[errant edge]

not anywhere near as good quality, but one minute

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gVmNnQ/gigabyte-gs27qc-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-curved-monitor-gs27qc

far worse panel quality

like not even comparable

[uneven stone]

How is panel quality measured?

[errant edge]

differences you could expect are worse ghosting, worse color accuracy, higher latency

[uneven stone]

I don't think I've ever seen ghosting before

I had to look up what it even was

[uneven stone]

Can curved displays just not be as good?

[visual pilot]

It's cheap to make curved VA monitors, it's expensive to make curved IPS monitors.

[uneven stone]

And VA is just worse?

Apparently my current one is TN

hmm

1440p WQHD, 170hz, 1ms, IPS panel

27", $200

The 180hz version is cheaper on Newegg lol

What does that have that makes it $200+ everywhere

G274QPF

Damn

Another one that looked good until the panel type

Costco has failed me

1440p QHD, 170hz, 1ms, IPS, 27"
https://a.co/d/ayarU2Z

Pretty good price

Anything seem wrong with it? Looks good from what I can see, think I'll go with it.

[errant edge]

Solid monitor

[uneven stone]

Is there anything wrong with TN panels other than a limited view angle?

I don't think there are any that are made with them anymore, my current one was probably part of the last batch of monitors that used TN

[errant edge]

Yes

TN panels have awful color accuracy, image quality

[uneven stone]

Oh

[errant edge]

Among other downsides I'm not smart enough to have memorized

[uneven stone]

No wonder I have to use sharpen mode

Even with that it looks gross though

[errant edge]

My 1050p60hz TN panel that's used for discord and Google gives me a headache

Still need to replace it lol

[uneven stone]

Interesting

Mine has been fine for four or five years

[errant edge]

Mines about five years old

Maybe 6

The model is older though

10-15

[uneven stone]

My second one is some other HP monitor, not sure what exactly it is, but color depth seems better

[fossil gust]

Poor colors and contrast. Sometimes low brightness as well but that can vary

good pixel response times though.

VA is on the other side, great contrast but poor grey-to-grey pixel response. IPS is more in the middle

[misty gyro]

Something to note is that modern TN panels, like the ones they use for 540Hz monitors, are generally ok. About on par with VA.

[steep bobcat]

I just got the 24e3 and the colors are vibrant. Like its too vibrant to me. Am I just thinking this because I was on a older panel for so long or is it genuinely too saturated

If its just me, then I have to accept that this is how stuff is supposed to look there is so much color

[errant edge]

true, they're just almost always very overpriced

id much rather a 240-360hz oled than a 540hz tn lol

[misty gyro]

You can adjust everything to your liking by using both the monitor settings and the GPU settings. You might be interested in the "digital vibrance" (nvidia)/"hue/saturation" (amd) setting.

[wintry marsh]

https://www.techpowerup.com/323569/aoc-presents-27-u27b3a-and-u27b3af-affordable-4k-monitors-with-ips-panels#comments

Any affordable 4k monitor like this with high refresh rate ?

[raw ingot]

not any that i recall

[steep bobcat]

Wow the msi g244f e2 is cracked

$90 at microcenter

[dense spear]

hey everyone, very new to discord, have a like new 27' samsung odyssey g6 ( and 32' samsung odyssey g7 both curved 240hz...there beautiful monitors i must say... i upgraded to one bigger G9.. looking to sell both..is there a forum or channel for this here?

[visual pilot]

Not here, you might have luck with r/hardwareswap or just Facebook marketplace though

[steep bobcat]

fr

[misty gyro]

#rules #3 and all that

[misty gyro]

A good thing to do when you join a server in Discord is to read the #rules .
Just a tip since you said you're new.

[twin patrol]

best budget 265hz montor?

[quartz sandal]

Country? Resolution/gpu? Size?

[twin patrol]

27 inch 1920x1080

[misty gyro]

I wasn't aware 265Hz existed

I've seen 270 and 240 though

I now know of the existence of a single 265Hz monitor... maybe. It's a Chinese knock off that only says 265 in the name and not the spec sheet.

[twin patrol]

I dont have one so im probably just tweaking

I thought it was 265 not 270

[misty gyro]

Assuming US because it wasn't stated otherwise
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/fWkWGX,jnHqqs,zFKscf,xNTZxr/

[twin patrol]

yes im US

[small warren]

Next thing you're gonna tell me is 275Hz monitors exist and I might go postal

[misty gyro]

https://www.pcgamer.com/acer-predator-xb273u-nx-gaming-monitor-price-specs/

[small warren]

[quartz sandal]

Personally I'd recommend going either 24" or going 1440p for that size it'll look a good bit pixelated at 1080p

[twin patrol]

Yeah I meant 24" I couldn't remember my current monitors size

So 24" 1080p or 1440p 270hz

[quartz sandal]

Well what gpu do you have and what games will you be playing? Will depend if you can push those frames at 1440p

[misty gyro]

The Lenovo 360Hz one I linked is 24.5"

[vital mica]

which is better?

[small warren]

#general-chat

[amber moss]

Hey guys what it mean if my monitors are on pc is on but no picture?

Also blue flashing power light on my monitor

[novel merlin]

Why have 165hz monitors gotten so cheap

1080P ones are like $100 now?

[fossil gust]

Manufacturing improvements I assume

[misty gyro]

Make sure your monitor is on the right input

[novel merlin]

If it's Samsung, flashing blue actually means it's off for some reason. Hold the power button

[slim niche]

are there any >120 hz gaming monitors for under 100$?

[errant edge]

This is $110
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fw26Mp/msi-g244f-e2-238-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-g244f-e2

Bit worse but still solid, $100
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/H34Zxr/asus-tuf-gaming-vg249q1r-238-1920-x-1080-165-hz-monitor-90lm05v1-b01eb0

Any cheaper you'd have to deal hunt/wait for something to pop up, or go used

[limpid cedar]

would it be a travesty to recommend my friend a not-4k monitor if the build i'm sending him is a 4080 super

[small warren]

1440p 240hz minimum

[torpid current]

Any idea how can I “optimise” my tv settings cause I feel like I am “missing out” I got lg c1 I play on console kind of a competitive gamer I play fps only Ik tv is the worst fr fps gaming and I am more desperate and depressed to get a monitor but it’s what I got fr now till the I’ll probably pg27aqdp when it releases

[misty gyro]

The LG C1 is by no means bad for gaming. In fact it's probably one of the best you can get since it's OLED. You just need to enable the "game mode" and it does most things for you.

It is excellent for console gaming, perfect 10s
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/48-c1-oled#test_1426

[torpid current]

I didn’t mean at all that lg c1 or any oled is bad Ik oled is the best it can be I meant that tvs due to size pixel density is really bad for fps gaming cause it’s way more pressure on aim and it’s harder to be aware to every inch happening on a tv having a 27/24 inch monitor where the game is more condensed and easier to be aware of everything happening also it’s way easier to aim cause u got to move to through was less pixels to aim and center more accurately and consistently

[misty gyro]

Well what the consoles are usually doing to get "4k" is upscaling from 1080p, but if you think it'll help you can limit your max resolution in the console settings.

[torpid current]

I meant the tv setting to maximise clarity I can’t see ppl in wz good sometimes and sun in games is like a constant flashbang even tho I am on normal brightness and I play 1080p because I cut my display size so I can midget the “damage” caused by playing fps games on a big screen(pixel density is huge difference fr me I can’t imagine how good it’s going to be playing on 27 inch oled soon hopefully

[turbid star]

I don't know if a smaller OLED will eliminate the brightness issue though

It'll still be OLED

The pixel density bit probably

But if you got the space you can also sit farther back to eliminate that too

[upper hull]

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-changes-course-mag-qd-oled-monitors-will-get-firmware-updates-after-all

[tribal spire]

27GP850P-B for 118,490 HUF seems pretty good

M27Q is 2% more money

While the M27Q X costs almost double

[wintry marsh]

sup

wich settings should i turn on/off in the monitor to reduce eye strain ? 😄

[misty gyro]

That'll depend on what's causing your particular eye strain

[wintry marsh]

i got a new ips monitor

and the stock settings were high

i changed the brightness to 20/100

rgb color

red 5 green 5 blue 5

[misty gyro]

I'd set the overdrive level to whatever they call the middle setting too

[wintry marsh]

and installed flux using now 2000k

its a little bit better right now

[wintry marsh]

overdrive ?

yeah its off in my monitor

[misty gyro]

It helps reduce ghosting, but put it too high and you get inverse ghosting

[wintry marsh]

there is weak/medium/strong

medium is good ?

i tried strong and i get that inverse ghosting

is it bad for eyes ?

[misty gyro]

It can be. It depends on what your eyes are sensitive to.

[wintry marsh]

yeah you are right

i will put right now a timer for 20/20/20 rule

thank you so much for help 👍

[hazy warren]

Looking for a decent 1440p monitor for my new setup. any recommendations? I primarily play comp and solo games

[tribal spire]

Check Monitors Unboxed/Hardware Unboxed, they make pretty much the best monitor tests I know of

Their latest video is about a 1440p 180hz budget-ish Asus monitor so right on clue

[errant edge]

If you're in the US, ideally g27q

On a budget, whatever that $150-170 asrock 1440p IPS monitor is

[granite chasm]

@misty gyro Hey you recommended the m32u from gigabyte for a 4k monitor why is that? I’ve been looking at reviews and such and I’ve heard mixed reviews I’m not knowledgeable when it comes to monitors I just want a good monitor that is pretty for games and if I decide to play competitively in some games again something that can hold up so I just was hoping you could give me some info on it

[errant edge]

The m32u has a very good quality panel and is better than any other 4k 32" options around the price

Personally I would much rather take a 1440p OLED over a 4k IPS monitor

[hazy warren]

alright ty guys

[granite chasm]

@errant edge should I just wait and buy a 4k oled then

[errant edge]

imo the cons of 4k outweigh the pros for most people

unless you're getting a 4090, and even then I would much rather save $750 and get a 4080 super instead for 30% worse perf

[granite chasm]

I have a 4090 already that’s why I was looking at 4k

[errant edge]

hm alright

i mean there are 4k oleds but they come at a heavy price tag, i personally would never suggest a $1200 monitor https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RwXV3C/alienware-aw3225qf-316-3840-x-2160-240-hz-curved-monitor-aw3225qf

[granite chasm]

Any recommendations for non curved if I’m going 4k oled

Or should I just stick with the m32u for now

[errant edge]

i could not suggest a $1200 monitor to someone, personally I'd stick with the m32u

unless you play competitively for money

[granite chasm]

I’ve only played wow a little competitively so I don’t need it just have extra money but thanks I’ll stick with the m32u

[tribal spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXgvP84g2BU
This one might just beat the G27Q

though it is Asus, so it is for the brave

[hard bronze]

Currently I have a 1920x1080 144hz monitor and a 1366x768 (running in 1080p mode) 60hz monitor

I was thinking of getting a 1080p75hz monitor, would all the different framerates mess up the computer? (if i had all 3 running at once)

[errant edge]

Nope! What price is the 1080p75hz monitor though?

I've had a 1050p60hz 1080p165hz and 1440p75hz all running from the same gpu lol

[hard bronze]

Oh dang haha

It's 90 bucks but I'm sure I could find a better priced monitor somewhere else

Its also a va panel so probably not

[errant edge]

Could you link it?

On the cheap end there's this, but it's not great quality
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4Zrqqs/asrock-cl25ff-245-1920-x-1080-100-hz-monitor-cl25ff

[hard bronze]

https://pixiogaming.com/products/px222

Ohh thats a good price!

[errant edge]

I'm also gonna link some other options if you want to take a look

[hard bronze]

Thank you!

[errant edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QMVmP6/samsung-t350-220-1920x1080-75-hz-monitor-lf22t350fhnxza
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q8grxr/msi-g2412f-240-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-g2412f

And for refurb there's 1080p165hz at $83

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166683919072?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FD6px4KaRcK&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Or 1440p 165hz at $140
https://www.ebay.com/itm/386891577141?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Ok6NaWEKSPa&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[hard bronze]

Ok genuine question how do yall find these deals 💀

[errant edge]

The refurb ones I had in my own cart on ebay from when I wanted to replace one of mine lmao

The other two I just sort using filters on pcpartpicker.com

[hard bronze]

Ahh lol

[errant edge]

Also for that msi 1080p one I linked I'd do this one instead

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fw26Mp/msi-g244f-e2-238-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-g244f-e2

Same price but it's a bit nicer

[hard bronze]

Cool, thank you so much!

[errant edge]

Anytime

[drowsy fable]

My monitor been acting up lately when ever I play a game that goes full screen like multiversus. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this problem?

Monitor: https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-G24F-Monitor-Response-DisplayPort/dp/B0B5VY6ZFC

[misty gyro]

Set the game to borderless windowed mode

[drowsy fable]

yeah it works like that but is there no way to go back to fullscreen?

[misty gyro]

Certain combinations of game, driver version, monitors, and even cables can cause weird bugs like this.
If you want to narrow it down, start with rolling back or updating your drivers, then try swapping cables. A setting in the monitor OSD might also cause it to respond more slowly to the mode switch.

[errant edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9WGhP6/aoc-porsche-design-agon-pro-pd27s-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-pd27s

What

[turbid star]

Fullscreen is pretty annoying to deal with if you aren't just playing the game the entire time

Every game I play now is never on Fullscreen because I will switch to something else mid game and it always is weird

If I use Fullscreen

Takes everything a second to come back while the game takes it's time to disappear so I just don't bother

[fierce geyser]

Are refurb monitors basically new monitors? Just slightly used

[misty gyro]

It depends

[maiden wedge]

Welp there goes my answer.

[slim lantern]

looking for a good 27 inch monitor either 1440p or 4k 🙏

[maiden wedge]

Taking back this 39 inch ultrawide and getting the 32 inch 4k for the time being. I'll get about 30 more PPI with the 32 inch 4k compared to get a 34 inch 3440x1440 version

even though I would like something bigger but the next best option for something bigger is the g9 49 inch

[maiden wedge]

you can get a asus one

4k

I mean 1440p is fine for 27 inch.

ONce we get into the 32 inch that's when you want to consider 4k

[misty gyro]

Budget and use case?

[slim lantern]

mainly programming and some casual gaming for fun

[slim lantern]

is the difference between a 27 inch 4k vs 1440p worth it since im pretty sure a decennt 1440p monitor goes for like 250-300 while the 4k ranges from like 400 to 600?

[maiden wedge]

for 27 inch you can go with 1440p.

I have two 1440p from like 3 years ago but I don't game on them

They are just for discord, word, or videos

[slim lantern]

is the image clear?

[misty gyro]

1440p is perfectly fine for 27" at a normal viewing distance

But if you sit 6 inches from the screen you might want 4k

[slim lantern]

id be at least 20 inches away

[misty gyro]

I'd consider that "normal viewing distance"

[slim lantern]

alr thanks

do you have any monitors you would reccomend?

[errant edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d

[misty gyro]

If you need speakers, that doesn't have any

Here's a few with speakers to consider. Each step up in price I'd consider to be worth it over the lower tiers.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/JPrYcf,mQbTwP,N2cgXL/

[slim lantern]

oh alr thanks

i dont particularly need speakers

is there anything youd reccomending under or right around 300

[slim lantern]

wouldnt mind having them tho ^

[misty gyro]

I'd lean towards the G27Q then

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JPrYcf/gigabyte-g27q-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-g27q

[slim lantern]

oh alr thank you

[slim lantern]

is this monitor better than the dell g2724d in terms of the screen quality?

[misty gyro]

Yes https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/gigabyte-g27q-vs-dell-g2724d/12904/41041?usage=4112&threshold=0.10

[slim lantern]

alr thanks ill check that out

would you say these 2 are the best monitors in this price range?

[misty gyro]

Unless you need specific features, yes. The next step up in terms of picture quality would be something with better HDR, which starts at around $500 or so.

[errant edge]

Xv272u is good too, right?

240hz for $30 over g27q

[misty gyro]

Which one? The last part of the Acer model string is incredibly confusing, intentionally. I never recommend them as a result.

[errant edge]

Also there's
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824160516?

Holy long link

One sec

[errant edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Lv4Zxr/acer-acer-nitro-xv272u-w2bmiiprx-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-umhx2aa201

[misty gyro]

If you search pcpp for "xv272u" you get 8 hits from VERY different monitors.

[errant edge]

At least they're all 1440p

And IPS

So there's something in common lmao

[misty gyro]

Also the way pcpp links monitors to Amazon pages and such, sometimes it gets the wrong link

[errant edge]

I think this is a good option around $300 though

@slim lantern

Mini LED VA

[slim lantern]

is that better than ips?

my use case is mainly going to be programming so reading small text and so

[misty gyro]

QC problems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K7ioTEieps

[errant edge]

Ah damn

[slim lantern]

what does qc mean?

[errant edge]

Quality control

[misty gyro]

Quality Control

[slim lantern]

oh ok thanks

[errant edge]

That's the other one I linked though, not the mini led one

[misty gyro]

Some of the monitors flicker REALLY badly

[errant edge]

Fal, would ips or mini led VA be better for reading small text

My guess is the former but I'm not sure

[misty gyro]

It depends on how it's implemented

[slim lantern]

so fal you would reccomend the GIGABYTE - G27Q right

[misty gyro]

Generally I know that IPS is better for eye strain over any VA panel

Correct, that's what I would go with (and did go with, I'm happy)

[slim lantern]

alr do yk what cable it comes with?

[misty gyro]

Yes 1x HDMI and 1x DP

Internal power supply, using a standard kettle lead

[slim lantern]

does the hdmi support all the refresh rates and stuff

[misty gyro]

It's limited to 144Hz over HDMI because of the port version

The DP cable works at max refresh

[slim lantern]

oh alr

is the dp cable display port on both sides or?

[misty gyro]

Yes

With the locking clip

[slim lantern]

i see

how do the speakers sound in ur opinion?

[misty gyro]

They're fine. Not great but about what you'd expect since they're small.

[slim lantern]

alr thanks

[misty gyro]

No distortion issues I've noticed

[errant edge]

I've basically got an hp branded g27q and have no complaints

Aside from hp related things

[slim lantern]

thanks for all the advice just one more thing, do you have a reccomendation for an entry level 32 inch 4k monitor 100hz+

[misty gyro]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/Fm7G3C,KfV2FT,KKGhP6/

[slim lantern]

wait is the gigabyte m27q monitor good? it seems like an upgrade from the g29q and is just 260 on best buy

would you reccomend it

[misty gyro]

The M27Q is rated lower than the G27Q, but the M27Q-P is a slight improvement

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/gigabyte-m27q-rev-2-0-vs-gigabyte-g27q/34719/12904?usage=4112&threshold=0.10

[brave pivot]

Hi
Who is try

samsung odyssey oled g8 (2024)?

[maiden wagon]

What the heck is going on with my montior?

This happened to me twice

[river edge]

Yeah, that's not great. usually that's a GPU issue or power supply issue.

Majority of time it's a GPU failing

[maiden wagon]

How can I tell if it's a gpu failer?

It boots and plays games fine?

Can it be a montior problem to?

[river edge]

Does your system have n iGPU?

And no, monitor only displays what the GPU sends it, I don't think monitors can do the RGB thing on their own

[maiden wagon]

I thought it was like a screen flicker burn out

At least according to this guy

https://youtu.be/BnU8rY6QZLA?si=e-h4TUBuIO5Uj9vW

Right here

[river edge]

Does it do it on system shutdown or bootup?

Or just randomly

[maiden wagon]

It happened at one point during a windows updare

And then today with a shutdown

This would suck if my cards truly failing me

[river edge]

IO'm watching the vid

[maiden wagon]

I am hoping it's just a monitor issue

[river edge]

This is a new one, never seen it

[maiden wagon]

My msi 3070 better not be going out

Cause I will be truly sad

[river edge]

Do you get the same screen he does on shutdown with the Power Saving Feature on?

It's a Dell monitor?

[maiden wagon]

Well it might be different with minr

Mines this

Had it for only a few months

Oh this might be helpful to there's also times when my display randomly goes to sleep and when I unplug the display port and plug it back in nothing comes up till I reset my pc. Is that a sign of gpu failure

[river edge]

Can be, can also be an oofed monitor, I'm researching a bit stand by

[maiden wagon]

Let me see if everything powers on when I turn it on

[river edge]

SO that appears to be some kind of a test mode built into the monitor. Seems like a monitor issue

[maiden wagon]

Nope my monitor doesn't come on with my pc

[river edge]

Where it's defaulting to test mode on restart

It shouldn't come on with your PC, has a separate power switch right? Or are you saying power is on but no image?

[maiden wagon]

Power is on no image

My gpu fans aren't spinning which is normal but they do spin once I start playing

[river edge]

Ah, first test is to try a different input port on the monitor or output port on the GPU

IE< HDMI 2 instead of 1 or a different DP/HDMI port on the GPU

MIght has a dead one, it's a thing

[maiden wagon]

Well

I did do that

I but

I am going to guess if I restart my pc now

It will come to life one sec

[river edge]

Wait

Do a full power restart

SHutodwn

Unplug PSU from wall power

plug back in, reboot

[maiden wagon]

Ok I did a full shut off and then unplugged my psubform the wall

And powers on

But

Montior doesn't show

And the led light is still orange

[river edge]

Can you get to the OSD and check the menu to be sure you're on the right input?

[maiden wagon]

Osd?

What's that?

[river edge]

On Screen Display

Monitor settings menu

[maiden wagon]

Nope

[river edge]

Oh, monitor menu button doesn't work?

[maiden wagon]

I can't even power my montior on

It just shows a orange led light

Like it's still asleep

[river edge]

Unplug it and replug it power?

[maiden wagon]

Alright I will unplug the montior

Should I leave the tower on?

Or shut that off to

[river edge]

leave the tower on

it's fine

[maiden wagon]

Now it comes on

After unplugging it which I shouldn't have to do

[river edge]

Mmm, glitch in the matrix.

If it keeps doing it, request a warranty RMA

Once is a glitch, twice is warranty 😉

[maiden wagon]

So we can confirm it's my montior then

And like not my gpu?

[river edge]

In this case it appears to be all monitor issue since the OSD wouldn't work, etc

[maiden wagon]

Thank god

[river edge]

Ya!

[maiden wagon]

I also powered it off and it shut down correctly

[river edge]

I learned something new also about that wonky test pattern thing you saw. I only knew about GPU VRAM doing that weird stuff

[maiden wagon]

Well thankfully it's not

[river edge]

I agree

[maiden wagon]

I did however notice some times

Appeeartly with my motherboard

If my display doesn't come on

I got a red light that had something to do the vga?

Which is montior stuff right

[river edge]

A brief red light on the motherboard for VGA is graphics card

It should come on and then go off

If it stays on with no boot, that means the motherboard has a problem with the GPU

[maiden wagon]

Hmm

[river edge]

Could be power, could be how it's seated in the slot or could be a motherboard issue

those are hard to diagnose

[maiden wagon]

Well after a rest and move with the display port it went away

So I don't know anymore

I hope my pc isn't dieing on me

[river edge]

Although with these symptoms, it may be good to see if there's a BIOS update that mentions something about GPU compatibility or stability

[maiden wagon]

It's updated to the most recent bios I believe

[prime sun]

Parents took my monitor i paid for, got a big gash on it, gave it back and said sorry

Lovin life

Dont have a warranty either

Things 6 months old

[river edge]

Good, should be fine then. I say run it till it boops again, then check symptoms and RMA monitor if the oSD doesn't work and it gives you the funny screens again

[maiden wagon]

I love this montior just it sucks if it's like burnt out or messed up

Espiecally for only having it for a couple of months

No wonder best buy has it rough with their stuff

Especially if it breaks with in a few months

[pastel cedar]

m27u still a good pick?

[misty gyro]

M28U? If you need 4k at that size yeah

[pastel cedar]

nah 27 inch

[small warren]

M32U

Below 32 inches 4K makes no sense for 95%+ of people as their eyesight physically can't register the difference

Or you're the kind that plasters their face to the screen

[misty gyro]

For $400 there's WAY nicer options

[small warren]

Absolutely

There are some amazing QD choices for 1440p at that price

Or go up to 580 and get ktc oled

[pastel cedar]

That monitor I need it mainly for good color accuracy and resolution as I am going to be working with different media types

[small warren]

Which is exactly what oled provides

[pastel cedar]

like photo/video editing

[small warren]

OLED is peak colour

[pastel cedar]

and the such

any recommendation?

[misty gyro]

OLED gets you near perfect colors since every pixel is self illuminating, and you don't need to worry about backlight bleed

[small warren]

And way better contrast than ips

As well as superior latency

[misty gyro]

Effectively infinite contrast yes

[small warren]

Very sharp picture by picture so almost zero ghosting

KTC oled >>>>>>

[misty gyro]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/ktc-oled-g27p6/6.html

Surprisingly technical review, even for TPU

The one thing these panels aren't as good for is text clarity, but I doubt you're starting at text documents all day

[pastel cedar]

Yeah I had used this to guage to filter through monitors and didnt see any oled options for whatever reason so I never even thought of it https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table/142633

gaming isnt too important on this monitor btw as that will probably be done on the m27q-p which I might swap out for a M27Q X later

[misty gyro]

Just looking at DCI-P3 coverage alone isn't the full story

[pastel cedar]

no yeah ofc but just used the site as a starting point

[misty gyro]

Fair enough, yes it can be good for filtering specific things you're looking for

[pastel cedar]

ayayayay, wait this monitor is like 600. any recommendations under like 400 by chance?

[misty gyro]

Not for OLED

[pastel cedar]

ahhhh yeah that might have been why oleds werent showing up before haha

[misty gyro]

Well here's a few to check out then
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table/142634

I find sorting by the primary use type to be effective, in this case looking at an editing use rating of 8+ and $410 or under

[small warren]

If you can take a bit of an L elsewhere in your budget, it's worthwhile to make oled fit imo

It's a huge jump

Bigger than several gpu upgrades

[misty gyro]

OLED is very much a game changer

[pastel cedar]

oh wow prime day deals making 800-900$ oleds 600 is nice though

hmmm, might just return the m27qp for now to go for that oled deal

1 oled monitor it is

[misty gyro]

The OLED would be able to replace the gaming monitor as well as the production monitor

[pastel cedar]

dont oleds have a problem with burn in or something like that

of like game elements

[misty gyro]

Yes but no

Modern ones are able to mitigate it before it becomes a problem

So you only get noticeable issues after several years

And that's several years of static content on the screen, like playing a single game every day for 5 years and the HUD burns in a little

[small warren]

As long as you do proper oled care and don't jam it to 100% brightness it will be fine

The lg 240hz is really good at about 200-350 nits for long life

[misty gyro]

Rtings goes into a lot of the technical details of the how and why on their youtube channel
https://youtu.be/Fa7V_OOu6B8?si=8bGQOlIfeklw_peU

The pic used in the thumbnail here is from them discovering "oops our testing didn't let certain monitors do proper pixel cleaning cycles" and as soon as they did the pixel cleaning the "burn in" went away

[pastel cedar]

oh wow yeah theres alot of pretty good options for around 600 rn and some just peeking over to 750

should I just stick with the ktc?

[misty gyro]

If you're getting into the $700 range https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wywypg/alienware-aw3423dwf-342-3440-x-1440-165-hz-curved-monitor-aw3423dwf
That's frequently named "the best gaming monitor, period" and it's got all the benefits of both OLED and ultrawide displays.

https://youtu.be/YleSuwK8vR4?si=MY0N1LzPrEOPSxOe

More recently they moved their monitor content to a new channel
https://youtu.be/YCD54ytiIR4?si=K02j6-QeqYYNlvsD

[misty gyro]

Plus a "2 years later" review of this one https://youtu.be/uRx3rqDNuuk?si=uzQOdUeHgHPGWUx3

[pastel cedar]

ah yeah I need to stick to 27 inch due to physical limitations

[misty gyro]

Check out this vid then, they cover some of the newer models

Lots of 27" variants came out last year, and continue to come out this year

[pastel cedar]

Alienware AW2725DF seems good might go with that after some more searching

[rancid cedar]

looking for a new monitor, never had a curved one before. are they better? i do 3d modeling, bit of coding, movies, and play some games (nothing major in gaming these days). is it better to stick to what i know in a flat screen, or try one of these new curved?

[misty gyro]

They are typically worse than similar priced flat panels because they're usually VA panels