#old-monitors-and-tv

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surreal quarry
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no im saying i cant see stuff

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when I move

small warren
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ye can't see stuff move right?

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I'm saying oled reduces blur to nothing

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it's in the tech

surreal quarry
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its just harder to see stuff clearly when stuff is in motion compared to m27q

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but probally because a little bit of movement translates to lots of movement on the big screen

small warren
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it's virtually the same for the pg42uq

surreal quarry
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i think its just cause the screen is bigger

small warren
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maybe this?

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ah

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wait I think I might know what's happening

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at high refresh it'll look like this

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but for 60hz it'll look more like this

normal token
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monitor im looking to get and the 6950xt I have, are those both compatiable or am I just stupid and it should be fine

misty gyro
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misty gyro
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What specs for the monitor?

normal token
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obv ill be using my 6950 once i get a new case that fits it lol

small warren
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use the 2.1 plugs

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both compatible

misty gyro
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Yeah use DP, HDMI is limited to 144Hz on that monitor

small warren
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oh it has 2.0

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oh I thought the 2.1 was the monitor lmao

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yeah use dp

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my bad

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silent epoch
errant edge
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I haven't seen true hdr, but hdr on my x27q looks pretty nice

carmine bloom
silent epoch
carmine bloom
silent epoch
carmine bloom
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I mean more as in the amount of dimming zones

surreal quarry
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someone I know just got this monitor @carmine bloom , I'll let you know what they think after a week

tight zenith
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I’m having trouble with my monitors not displaying. Does anyone know how to fix that?

normal token
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I am between these 2

small warren
raw ingot
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quartz sandal
visual girder
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4090 can show its worth on this, right?

errant edge
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Yes

visual girder
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Okay. Just double checking all my parts.

errant edge
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Could do oled for 700 if you're interested in one

prime sun
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Not to mention that one has a higher refresh rate

quartz sandal
visual girder
quartz sandal
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or get a bigger desk 😅

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you cant even see pixels on a 27" 1440p monitor

misty gyro
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But bigger number better

visual girder
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I’m stupid
I’ll just get the oled

quartz sandal
visual girder
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So what should I get

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I don’t quite like going upwards of $600 on a monitor

misty gyro
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You could do ultrawide 1440p

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That would go well with a 4090

visual girder
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@misty gyro got a link?

misty gyro
visual girder
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Sweet. Now I just need to find a desk.

small warren
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If you're going with that last one please don't use a 4090

errant edge
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fair

small warren
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Be stuck using like 70% of your gpu 80% of the time

visual girder
small warren
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If you can do that one

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Then why not m32u

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M32u would make proper sense for 4k

misty gyro
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It's also $650

small warren
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Eh?

small warren
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Oh ew

visual girder
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At that point, I’d just be better off getting oled

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So I’ll settle in between

visual girder
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Better resolution?

misty gyro
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It's 4k but personally I don't recommend Acer monitors because of their intentionally confusing model names

small warren
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Lol

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Yeah that last part, I've not seen before

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Um.jx2aa.v04

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They're adding more codes again

visual girder
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So if I get that exact coded one
I should be better off?kekw

misty gyro
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And of course if one digit is off in the model it's suddenly a VA monitor instead of IPS

small warren
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Imo yeah, or downgrade gpu

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You want to use the gpu

visual girder
small warren
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If you bottleneck it with the monitor then a higher tier gpu is absolutely pointless

visual girder
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I will frick every game I come across with that 4090

misty gyro
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If you use a 4090 to play destiny at 1440p I will never forgive you

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I'll take it as a personal insult

small warren
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D2 runs at 4K in the hundreds of fps

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On not even 4090

visual girder
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I 100% will

But I also have like 50 other games like Witcher 3’s deluxe edition I would love to play, but my 1080 wouldn’t let me run

small warren
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1080?

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1080 ran D2 really well in my experience, old as piss game

misty gyro
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As long as you do the remix mod and crank the RT up it can be slightly challenging

small warren
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Go 4K

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32" 4K is justifiable

misty gyro
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My 3080 ti handles witcher 3 with a couple dozen mods including the RT mod at 1440p just fine though

visual girder
small warren
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I had it at 4K for a long time on my 1080

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But that's just how things were

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Back then people were still playing with the idea of 4k on a gpu

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But the 4090 is well and truly a 4k card

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Anything less and you aren't using it properly

misty gyro
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Except on the only CS2 that matters (cities skylines 2)

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Nothing can get you more than 20 fps late game in that

small warren
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I forgot about that 5fps game @720p

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Individually rendered teeth 60fpsKekExplode

misty gyro
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Maximum load on everything

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Oh and some of the settings were inverted, set low and it loads high detail 🙃

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Set high and it loads low

small warren
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Lol

quartz sandal
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lucid topaz
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Yo i have a 4060/i7-13700F if any1 has reccs for a monitor. Eventually getting a 4080s and ideally prepping for GTA 6 at 4K.

lucid topaz
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Ok nice

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I like running a dual monitor setup which do u think would be more ideal

lucid topaz
errant edge
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What type of games do you play?

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If you keep that 4k one as a side monitor, you could use it to play story games and non multi player games where you care more about graphics than fps, and then get an OLED for multi-player games. (That's just an option, if you would rather have the 4k high refresh then do that)

quartz sandal
small warren
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@quartz sandal I'm struggling to read that

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I think I get what's being said

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It's not great

quartz sandal
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Fixed

small warren
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Running run even

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Yeah, gravel is definitely a good word for it

quartz sandal
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@small warren what was that msi monitor you sent me

small warren
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Ye

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worldly anchor
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Thoughts on the cooler master Gp27q?

small warren
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Depends how much

quartz sandal
worldly anchor
prime sun
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Jesus thats heavy jensen2

worldly anchor
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its a very good monitor by the sounds of ti

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it*

quartz sandal
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personally id rather spend that type of money on a 240hz monitor

worldly anchor
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at 1440p for that money?

prime sun
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Unless youre like a full on pro shooter player is there even a point for any hz above like 120 😭

misty gyro
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Generally no

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Many people can't tell the difference between 120 and 165, and most can't tell above 165

pearl osprey
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Best panel type for gaming?

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And a good 240hz 32inch monitor?

misty gyro
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What budget for the monitor recommendation

pearl osprey
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Around $300

misty gyro
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You don't want 1080p at that size, you can see the individual pixels

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I also would not particularly recommend that monitor for well lit rooms, it's rather dim at a little over 100 nits

normal token
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also @small warren I ordered that monitor it should be here tomorrow

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I love free trials of prime kekw

small warren
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Neat

daring flame
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Anyone got the new Alienware QD OLED 32" 4k 240hz monitor? What do you think? Just ordered one as my last monitor finally crapped out so I went all in. Seemed to check all my boxes and more so I hope to have it in a couple of days.

small warren
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If I'm not mistaken

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That uses DSC for bandwidth above 4K 120hz

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That specific monitor

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If it's not DP2.0 or DP2.1 then it definitely is

prime sun
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Whats the lifespan of an oled compared to an lcd, as pricey as they are id hate for burn in and such to be a problem

errant edge
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You know better than me

small warren
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Even monitors

prime sun
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Ah sick, thank you

misty gyro
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As long as you let the pixel cleaning features run they're fine to use long term.

prime sun
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Good to know

silent epoch
prime sun
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My media doesnt have anything to do with the fearmongering of burn in, i was just genuinely curious. Me talking here is varying my media and taking in other accounts on subjects like it 😭

silent epoch
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It's just as good as the day when I got it

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I've had it for a year

prime sun
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I didnt think oled would have much of issues with it, so glad to hear that

silent epoch
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Ye

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Also having a warranty alleviates the anxiety of damage Oh_No

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I have 4 years

prime sun
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I always buy products with long good warranties since often those are the products that least need em

silent epoch
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Smart

normal token
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@small warren this monitor is insane

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all my UIs feel so small

pallid forum
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Hi everybody

normal token
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@errant edge how do i make my ui stuff less small

errant edge
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I believe it's in display settings but I forget exactly how

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I've never had to

normal token
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i got it

misty gyro
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Unless you're going to use it for something that doesn't support 1440p like a streaming box then at that size you really can't tell the difference between 4k and 1440p

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Plus that's a cheap VA panel for the price of a very good 1440p IPS

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4k you want at least 32" to get any benefit

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pearl osprey
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But im still trying to find a good gaming monitor for 240hz

pearl osprey
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I want my gaming monitor to be atleast 27 inches with 240hz ips panel

errant edge
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Otherwise you'd probably be looking for a 1440p monitor

errant edge
misty gyro
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Most of the time "4k" doesn't mean the content is actually in 4k. For example, even if you pay extra to netflix for the 4k streaming you're probably still only getting 720p.

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The only time you can be sure the content you're watching is actually 4k is if it's on a blu-ray

pearl osprey
errant edge
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Actually none that are ips until $400

pearl osprey
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Ohh ok

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Im confused on fps and hz

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If im playing on a 165hz monitor and my pc can do more fps

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Am i only going to see 165 fps?

errant edge
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The screen might refresh but the frame in the game hasn't changed, so maybe you'll only see 160 fps at 165hz through a period, and then another time see 164.

misty gyro
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Freesync and gsync are designed to help with that when you're running below the refresh rate. They make the screen wait to refresh until the GPU is ready to send a frame.

pearl osprey
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Hmm alright alright

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Thanks for the info

surreal quarry
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it is very vibrant

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tbh i kinda wanna get it myself

misty gyro
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"Blur" (ghosting or reverse ghosting) would be quite noticeable in a fast paced game like cult of the lamb.
Black levels are the major weakness for IPS and coming from an OLED I can see you noticing it more.

surreal quarry
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also miniled. I just dont think we turned local dimming on

misty gyro
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Ah miniled, the acceptable kind of VA at least

carmine bloom
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Opinion on it? They r refurbished but specs don’t seem bad

errant edge
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Wait no

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That's fhd

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Nvm

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Monitor is one of the last things I'd cheap out, it displays the machine you spend hundreds, if not a couple thousand, putting together

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U said that as I was abt to try n find a cheaper option

errant edge
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There's some alright cheap options, but for cheaper I'd go 24" 1080p

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What gpu do you have?

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Here is the thing I’m already going slightly over budget for it and to be realistic I’m on t( verge of just waiting another month to get a monitor which means it would be sitting there

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Planning on getting 7800xt

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Getting all parts by end of month

errant edge
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What about getting 1080p for now, and upgrade down the line?

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Also mind sharing the list you're looking at so far?

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Yeh one sec tho

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Idk I know the 160 Walmart one i showed may have ghosting problems but I was thinking of getting that or the 27inch one u said yes to at first. I rlly would prefer a 27 inch n I heard 1440p is better with the setup I have

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S that’s only reason I have been leaning toward those

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Ram will have same specs but switching to a white one that is like 10 bucks more. And reason for 2 gpu is idk which to choose lol

errant edge
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It's more than that, basically the higher the resolution, the more load on gpu and the less load in cpu (or same load on cpu, if you're gpu limited a lot.)

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Rest is pretty much final

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It would be used strictly for gaming which is despite me technically being able to spend less on a gpu n still do decent I would highly prefer this gpu

errant edge
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Beyond a certain point, you're spending more on your gpu to get the same results, like 7800xt would perform similarly with the 6800 at almost $100 less at 1080p paired with some cpus

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But getting 1080p for now and saving for a while to get a good 1440p is better than spending more on a low quality 1440p monitor now

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What’s the 680l called is it just 6800 XT. As u see I have no clue what I’m halfway talking abt

errant edge
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6800 and 6800xt are both gpus, 6800 is around 15% worse

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I heard difference between 1080 and 1440 rlly isn’t that noticeable besides outlines of certain objects upclose, in ur option true?

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So go with 6800xt?

errant edge
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Already bought cpu cooler. It’s arriving tmrw .

errant edge
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I went from 1080p 165hz VA panel to 1440p 165hz IPS and it was HUGE

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Ah alr

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But isn’t that due to ur ips panel

errant edge
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Like, I didn't even realize how big of a difference it was

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Partially

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Considering difference between ips n va is drastic at that lvl

errant edge
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But also the image clarity, I didn't even realize I was seeing pixels on my last monitor. It was like night and day

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And its also a good quality panel, it's the HP x27q

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It's worse than the msi one I linked tho

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To be fair my last pc was a all in one n I was playing Val at rlly low sittings

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Which is one reason as to why I’m not to picky but mostly just confused lol

errant edge
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Main game I play is val, and I can vouch how big of a diff it was

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That's actually what made me realize how nice it was. Specifically my first game after the upgrade was pearl lmao

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Don't know why I remember that

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Oh also

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Check out the phanteks g360a, it's very similarly priced rn

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(Case)

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Alrdy bought a case n I love the way it looks but lemme check

errant edge
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Ah kk

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Air 100 is good, just another option

errant edge
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7600xt is low key a joke

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Not even a 6800xt but showed up

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😭

errant edge
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It's worse than 3060 ti perf

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16gb is pointless on it

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Idk what that is but lower number equals worse to me

errant edge
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7600 is good value

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It's exact same as 7600xt just less vram

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16gb won't be utilized at that tier of gpu anyways, at least not enough to justify the price

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Especially since that tier of gpu is kind of designated towards 1080p atp

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Does 6800 XT come in white?

errant edge
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Yeah but they're not in stuck often anymore

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I haven't seen them be well priced for a couple of months atp

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You could look for a used 3080/6800xt+ as well

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Can be found around 325-425

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The lower end of that is if you're lucky tho

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4060 ti same value?

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Only 519 tho so cheaper then sapphire one of 7800

errant edge
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At times it even loses to 3060 ti, bc nvidia is stupid

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Ngl I feel obligated to stick with the 7800xt I get there r cheaper options but I am kinda picky on gpu cooler

errant edge
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At like sub $350 for 8gb version or sub $400for 16gb they're decent depending on what they're being used for

errant edge
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Sucks liking white😔

errant edge
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There's always the option of painting one yourself, but I understand not wanting to

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Mfs charging 20 more minimum lol

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If my budget was higher I would of switched power supply to white aswell but it’s not possible

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Don’t trust myself enough😭

errant edge
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Like 15% worse than 7800xt I think?

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So performance wise besides it jus being somewhat worse then the 7800xt I know vram is important for games so would that still slow me to play most games like r6 and rust n Val on high settings?

errant edge
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12gb is plenty

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Because despite me already being slightly over budget as u said with monitor I wouldn’t wanna get that gpu when I could slightly go over now n just chill later

errant edge
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7800xt could have 12gb and it wouldn't be utilized in all but a handful of games at 1440p, and they're badly optimized

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Idk what u said but I got one more question lol

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This is last one lol

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Could this fit the 7800xt and or the one u just sent

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And with that said could both and or atleast one comfortably sit in this case

errant edge
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I'm sorry I've absolutely no clue. Felix probably would

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I dont know much about risers and mounting kits, I've never looked into them

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Felix sounds like he knows what’s up what’s his username not gonna dm prob but just curious

errant edge
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Flexiblefelix

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Hes pretty active, bout as much as me

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Well is just got here but thx

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Suggested to dm or jus wait to see him

errant edge
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I'd say ping him or wait to see him

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Thx😎

errant flax
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Most games would probably only use like 8GB in my experience.

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Thx

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Above is my setup

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Haven't built is yet but slowly getting the parts. With my GPU n my setup someone told me I should get a 1440p monitor. With that said t there any Decent 1440p monitors that are under 180 and preferably around 27inch

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Size matter slightly more then performance to me which I know is stupid but I rlly would prefer a 27inch n a curved is a plus plus. I know this request is very unlikely n a bit of contradictions but if u know any plus send

visual pilot
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Not exactly the best but it's cheap, curved, and 27in

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I get it’s va and everybody hates va but I actually think it’s pretty good

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Will check out a few vids tho to see how the ghosting is

errant edge
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It's g27q but with a complete ass panel, like it's impressive how bad they made it from what I remember

visual pilot
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visual pilot
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Really? What happened to the g27qc then

errant edge
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I'm not sure

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Apparently it's gone up since I last checked

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It used to be like a 5.6 in gaming

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So basically worse g27qc

errant edge
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Opinion on this one

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Upped budget for it slightly

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Also one u sent I actually like

errant edge
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It's meh

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It's got really bad ghosting if I remember right

obsidian oak
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Thoughts on this one?

errant edge
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It's good, but obviously VA

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Curved is almost always going to be va

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What is the ghosting like on the one u liked

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Ofc still there

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But like is it super noticeable as the others?

errant edge
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Ghosting is much less prominent, better colors, overall just better display quality

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Yes

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Okay thx

errant flax
errant edge
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True bacca what's ur opinion on 27 inch 1080p monitor ( I plan on switching after a few months but would have for atleast 5 months but would prob switch around 5 months mark most likely

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Because I plan on switching I'm not looking for rlly high high quality this early on but also looking for something that wouldn't look to wonky. I heard my setup would be best with a 1440p but jus curious on what u think

errant edge
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I'd still go 24" for 1080p for now, but in the end it's your choice

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Ok thx

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After checking size of my last monitor I think 24ingh is finr

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My last one in total was like 22 and the jorder was massive. So the pixels didn't even g on that far

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Felix suggested it but said to ask u or smth

errant edge
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Depends on price but yes

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Unless g24f 2 is within like $15 I would just save the money, especially since you're going to upgrade to 1440p within the year

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Prime day, black Friday, and cyber Monday we normally see some pretty nice monitor deals. The last two black Fridays we've had good quality 1440p monitors as low as $125-150

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I got my x27q for I think $175 after tax

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Wait ur right 😭

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Idk why I forgot about black Friday deals all other days were stuff gets plummeted by a decent amounts

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The g24f was like 140 so I'ma go with the one u suggested

errant edge
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Two black Fridays ago we had an nzxt 1440p 165hz at $120, x27q at like 145. This last one we had 27q around 160 and a few other similar specced monitors around 150-170. We also had 1440p 240hz around 250 for a good few months.

fossil gust
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Dead R subpixel on my monitor :(

mortal yoke
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can someone help me find a monitor under $200, at least 1080p, and at least 144hz?

prime sun
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What size screen do you want?

mortal yoke
prime sun
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Hows this

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If you look up bacca was just talking about it

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We love bots oop

mortal yoke
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thanks

prime sun
silent epoch
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surreal quarry
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$800 for a 27in qdoled, not bad

fading wyvern
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pepehmmm my 165hz ips has been feeling a little too gray recently i must say

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Any idea what the subpixel layout is?

small warren
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Not without knowing the exact monitor

quartz sandal
fading wyvern
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sorry if it seemed like i was talking about my monitor kekw

quartz sandal
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Ohh yeah it did lol

quartz sandal
fading wyvern
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i wa sin the car when i posted; was being lazy

quartz sandal
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Smh

fading wyvern
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oh thats weird. its like a g on top of r b

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idk how i feel about tht

small warren
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Grb

lime peak
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Anyone got any idea when will the PG32UCDM be back in stock?

misty gyro
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No one here works for Newegg so we don't have any inside information like that

lime peak
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oof

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what about the Wegg staff?

misty gyro
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@small warren

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is there a reason my monitor only goes to 165hz

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and not the advertised 170

small warren
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Probably some OC setting you shouldn't bother with cos overshoot

small warren
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Lol

visual pilot
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Might also be cable bandwidth related

fallow perch
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hello, could anyone let me know if this a decent tv for the price? https://www.ebay.com/itm/335196616074. or if anyone knows one better i'm looking for a 65' under $750 120hz+ would be nice but i understand it may not work for my budget thanks

misty gyro
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Below average at best

fallow perch
misty gyro
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It's been a while since I checked, looking now

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I'm in the market myself at a similar price point so this is beneficial to me too

misty gyro
# fallow perch ok if you have any recommendations lmk
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That'll probably be what I end up going for too tbh, as long as it's still in stock. It's also at walmart.com, but not in stock on Newegg (except from an overpriced third party reseller).

fallow perch
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thanks ill look into it, i dont know if id buy it full price but if its the best i can find ill do it

misty gyro
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I can search a little below the budget range too, $650 or so you start to see good ones if you know where to look

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That should give you a few options to think about, let me know if you have any other questions

fallow perch
misty gyro
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Check out that last one I linked then. Open box options were $580-600 near me and it's a very good TV.

misty gyro
fallow perch
misty gyro
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Those are nice, that works

fallow perch
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thanks for your help though

misty gyro
small warren
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Try to avoid constant content like persistent ui with the B2

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Over time it still has burn in issues

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It's in the rtings burnin category iirc, all the 2022 gen ones still have a ways to go

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Or alternatively avoid high brightness outside of like movies

misty gyro
small warren
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Ye

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I mean this is typical oled care really

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If you want to avoid it essentially permanently then just use lower brightness most of the time

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For 1000 nit display like LG woled, running anywhere near or under 50% brightness should look fine most of the time

fallow perch
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it will really only be used in low light and i dont intend to idle it

small warren
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Even the 300 nit oleds look excellent in low light

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Very bright

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You should be fine then, just worth passing the info on so you can make it last

misty gyro
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Pretty much just leave HDR disabled and it's fine. SDR is limited to 400 nits which is less than half the max of the screen.

small warren
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The great thing with oled is the high contrast, so unlike fighting some backlight bleed on pretty much any other panel in existence, the blacks are consistent

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So yeah you really won't need to boost it to 1000 anyway

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i.e 100% brightness

dawn breach
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hey guys,

any recommendations for a monitor for content (films, netflix) consumption around the 500-700USD range?

My current situation is that I play games on my PC but watch movies with my MacBook cos of how nicer the screen is

errant edge
dawn breach
errant edge
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That'd be plenty

dawn breach
errant edge
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You can even do an OLED around $700 if you're very into competitive gaming

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Or an IPS 1440p 240hz for $310

misty gyro
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2 OLEDs at the top end of that budget

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You can even game on them , 240Hz

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240Hz on an OLED is probably more like 360Hz on an IPS

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Near instant response times, perfect blacks for deep colors

errant edge
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With much faster response time

dawn breach
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ok i didnt know OLED was an option

misty gyro
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They've really come down in price with these new ones

errant edge
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Yup, though newer, cheaper ones are supposed to be coming down in price

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Likely going to be lower refresh rate options as well

dawn breach
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dang. might just wait for a good 144hz one then. but ill go check out the other ones suggested irl to see how i feel about them

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though OLED is pretty killer

misty gyro
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I'd be interested in the 4k 240Hz ones if any of them have DP 2.0 so they don't use DSC

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I'm nit picky lol

errant flax
small warren
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In some games

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Absolutely not all

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But the problem of the 4090 is dsc above 4k120

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240hz wouldn't look great

errant flax
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Gotcha.

misty gyro
proper viper
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what's the recommendation for a monitor to pair with a 4090. i currently have an odyssey g9 and i'm looking to downsize as i hate how big it is and i'm not a fan of curved monitors. it'll be used primarily for gaming.

small warren
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Or an LG C2/C3 and use it at a medium brightness for hdr

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The 42" ones go around, 900-ish iirc?

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Not really smaller, but narrower and taller instead

proper viper
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thank you!

proper viper
misty gyro
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With a 4090 you're limited in refresh rate at 4k because nvidia decided not to include a DP 2.0 port

small warren
misty gyro
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You can get higher refresh but yeah the DSC compression can be bad

small warren
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As Fal'cie pointed out, no native 240hz support

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4090 for the most part runs 144 at reasonable settings anyway

errant edge
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I want some other people's opinions on this

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I almost exclusively play valorant, not for money or anything but I play it a lot competitively

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I want to get a new second monitor, currently I'm doing 1440p165hz and 1050p 60hz. Would it be worthwhile to get 240hz as the new one and use it for my main display instead?

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The other options I've been considering are a cheaper OLED once the cheaper models are out, just the cheapest IPS screen I can find that isn't crap (prolly $50-70 range,) or a 4k 60hz monitor for story mode games and such where I don't really care about fps/refresh rate

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If it was you, what would you go with?

errant flax
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Personally I would choose the monitor that best suites the game I play most. So here's what I'd do.

  • High refresh for games I play competitively such as Fortnite, Halo Infinite, Call of Duty.
  • Good color/contrast (oled) for story games

All that being said, if you waited for a cheap oled like a 144hz QHD I think that would be the best of both worlds since honestly at the end of the day good skill can overcome the 240hz/144hz gap.

misty gyro
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The 240Hz OLEDs are the cheapest options right now oddly enough

errant edge
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Yeah im not buying an oled unless it's sub 400

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Even that's pushing it, with a 4k60hz IPS costing as low as 150

prime sun
surreal quarry
surreal quarry
fossil gust
errant edge
misty gyro
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There already is on phones

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But I get what you mean, PC monitors

small warren
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there's one linked above

misty gyro
small warren
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don't forget 8k oleds

errant edge
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Ah

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I feel like the response to this will be the magic 8 ball gif, but what about cheaper 1440p 60-75hz oleds

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Like in the 250-350 range

misty gyro
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They'll be premium priced products for a couple years while they figure out their manufacturing processes

small warren
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real

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or potentially doesn't even get cheaper at all and remains the "premium tier"

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we've had OLED for a very long time now

misty gyro
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Also possible, at least until the next best thing comes along

small warren
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granted, in multi-thousand dollar tvs

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real

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when that happens I'll be a total OLED simp

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like I am the QLED simp rn

errant edge
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Ah sad

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I'll probably go for 4k60hz or whatever pops up on sale on a prime day or on black Friday then

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Ty for the info

inland mirage
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what is alienware's warranty on monitors?

misty gyro
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It depends on the model

quartz sandal
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They'll say it on their site for the specific model

mellow fossil
prime sun
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What about mine too

cursive dawn
prime sun
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Still dont think its worth

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Youd be paying over 200 extra for some wireless earbuds when you could just get this and a pair of kbears for a fraction

cursive dawn
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I didn't even consider that I could buy it without the ear buds

visual pilot
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It must be for the csgo players that stick their face into their monitor

misty gyro
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I'm not so sure even that makes sense. They'll usually play at some odd resolution below 1080p so they get as many fps as possible.

visual pilot
errant edge
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Specifically people's heads ^

fleet rivet
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Hello, just bought a GIGABYTE G32QC Monitor, mainly doing flight simulation, but I'm having kind of black ghosts on all black objects when panning as if there is a black shadow being dragged behind every black moving object!

small warren
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Sounds like a terrible case of overshoot

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Did you overclock the monitor Hz

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Or set the response time to like extreme or something

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Things like that often trigger monitor overshoot and for some examples it can be disgustingly bad

small warren
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Hmmm

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RMA maybe

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I've heard the QC monitors can be quite mid for VA smearing

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Sorry I thought it was just the G32Q

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QC it's likely related to it being VA

fleet rivet
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So that's how it is?

small warren
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I don't think there's a whole lot else to say

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You'll get a lot of ghosting with frame gen and certain levels of dlss/fsr

fleet rivet
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So sad

tribal spire
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LG 27GP850P-B for 143k HUF (395 USD converted, including 27% VAT)
or
Gigabyte M27Q X for 221k HUF (612 USD converted, including 27% VAT)?

small warren
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first one is ips?

tribal spire
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both are

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the LG is 180 hz

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the M27Q X is 240hz

small warren
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the first one

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those prices are wild tho

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any cheaper options

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is there a 1440p MSI QD panel

tribal spire
tribal spire
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quantum dots right?

small warren
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get a 7900GRE and never look back

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ye

tribal spire
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hm

small warren
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better than both

tribal spire
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GRE good enough to regularly drive 100+?

small warren
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yes

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unless you daily starfield

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...

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💀

tribal spire
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:3

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exclusively starts playing Starfield

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JK

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I'd probably try it at least but

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not the game I'm most into

small warren
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it's on game pass so you don't need to spend a cent

tribal spire
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tru

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but yeah GRE seems pretty based

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KVM is nice tbf

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but I guess it's not mandatory

small warren
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kvm is amazing

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once you have it

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omg

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any second device becomes seamless

tribal spire
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M27Q X has built in KVM

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but like the price is so wack

small warren
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oh no just get the QLED

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it's amazing if it's included for no extra

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don't bother otherwise

misty gyro
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Buy a separate KVM if you need one, that price difference is not worth it

tribal spire
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It's more that I have no idea what I should seek in a KVM

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if it's 4k60hz

misty gyro
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As long as it supports the resolution and refresh you're going for then the rest is just options

small warren
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kvm just lets you use multiple devices with one mouse and keyboard when it's on a monitor

tribal spire
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really expensive tho

small warren
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yeah it's not really worth it

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it's great when the monitor has it

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but not really worth any extra

tribal spire
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tbf I'm likely to only have one computer for a while

misty gyro
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It's an addon you can get later when you need it then

tribal spire
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I'd only move to having two when I can afford the 7800X3D+ 4090 setup

small warren
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by the time you have that, you'll move on from the monitor anyway

misty gyro
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Or do what I do and (gasp) press a button to switch inputs and switch to my wireless mouse/keyboard

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It's a really minor thing for most people

tribal spire
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Wireless peripherals are a lot more expensive is the problem

misty gyro
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I got mine for the price of free from upgrading customers at work 10 years ago lol

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I just counted and I have 6 mice and 8 keyboards, all functional. Some of them are PS/2 which is very useful on occasion.

small warren
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ok I scanned that entire website

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@tribal spire apart from the QLED, this is the only other reasonable thing

tribal spire
small warren
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the rest are all meh or way over budget

tribal spire
small warren
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I wouldn't pair either of those screens with a 4090 either

tribal spire
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that one has a KVM built in
But probably worse image qual

small warren
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yes it is worse

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the QD is definitely better

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it's QD + IPS

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which is very new stuff

tribal spire
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S'pose I'm okay with no KVM for better image

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that is a fair enough tradeoff

small warren
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kvm is definitely the losing side in that discussion imo 💀

tribal spire
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heh

small warren
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by the time you have the other pc, you'll upgrade monitor anyway

tribal spire
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QD is worth paying extra for
KVM isn't

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Gotcha

small warren
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ye

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but if the QLED is too much

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the M27Q is good

tribal spire
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Sticking with the MSI then

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I'm not against paying slightly more for better image qual

small warren
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alr

echo cosmos
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Hey guys, is there a monitor arm that allows for easy horizontal adjustments? I have a 34 curved and 27 flat monitor I wish to slide to the center depending on the game I’m playing but most arms don’t allow this without messing up height or rotation

fossil gust
uneven stone
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hmm
1440p, 180hz, 0.5ms, FreeSync, 27" monitor for $189.99

silent epoch
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Doesn't mean it's good

uneven stone
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What's that supposed to mean?

small warren
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A lot of panels can be quite questionable in their quality from review

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Always look for reviews and information to confirm it's good, the numbers aren't themselves reliable

uneven stone
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The only review there that is actually an issue with it is this

Cons: - When set to 180hz using display port, there would sometimes be some visual noise on the screen in lines 1 pixel wide, spread out on the screen. It's relatively minor, but after switching to HDMI, I haven't seen this issue since. Don't know if it's a cable issue or a port issue, but if you want the 180hz, I would see if it does the same thing.

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Oh it also doesn't adjust vertically

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Acer Nitro VG271U

small warren
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I know that one

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VG271U is the much older variant to VG272U

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The 272 version reviews extremely well, but the 271u is so old and information is so scarce it's a fair suggestion to say that the age gives it away as possibly not a great panel at all

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It's something like a 2020 monitor

uneven stone
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oh

small warren
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Only very recently have monitors started to trend to generally being quite good

uneven stone
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I wonder how old this is when I got it refurbished in 2020 lol

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HP 25X

small warren
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Lol

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Like it's probably still very usable and qualitatively fine

uneven stone
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Amazon thinks it's 1600 x 1200 💀

small warren
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But I would wager vs the other options, probably a skip

uneven stone
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Okay

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I'm a little surprised this thing has lasted this long and still works as well as it does tbh

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Got it for $135.06 exactly after tax, 1080p, 144hz, 1ms

small warren
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I have I think only one monitor left that's a 2020 model

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An old LG model, good for editing, but warm colour profile

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Quite nice to look at, it's definitely vivid

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But it's also still pretty accurate

uneven stone
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Apparently this thing is from 2018

uneven stone
small warren
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Ye

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Monitors have made huge leaps in the last few years

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It's not even just the introduction of OLED

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Natural progression is seeping in, we're starting to get at the more budget/mid-high level some great options

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For example we have seen our first QLED (first?) for under 400 now from MSI

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It's IPS QLED iirc

hidden olive
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Good afternoon everyone. I am new to this chat. I have a question. I am in the market for a new gaming monitor. Preferably 27 inch. I currently have two LG 27UL650 and a ps 4 pro. I plan on purchasing a ps5 soon and want to get a new monitor. Which monitors do you guys recommend. Thanks

misty gyro
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PS5 Pro should be out in a few months, so how soon is soon?

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And what kind of budget do you have?

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One of the new 27" OLED screens is the easy best recommendation but they're pricy

hidden olive
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I plan on waiting for the ps5 pro. No more than $800

misty gyro
# hidden olive I plan on waiting for the ps5 pro. No more than $800

In that case, more OLED monitors will be coming out in the near future but as of today's prices you can easily get a 1440p 27" OLED.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C9L9MQF3

hidden olive
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Even though it’s not a 4k monitor

misty gyro
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First of all the 4k on the PS5 is a lie, it's upscaled from 1080p

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Second, you'll get better frame rates at 1440p

errant edge
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very noticeably better too

misty gyro
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And third, you won't be able to tell the difference between 1440p and 4k at 27" (unless you sit 6 inches from the screen)

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You're much better off getting a 1440p OLED than getting a 4k LCD of any type

hidden olive
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Thank you guys

cursive dawn
#
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Why is the link so long?

misty gyro
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Because it's a referral link

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It includes things like what you looked at before that, what you have in the search bar, etc

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You can delete '/ref=' and everything after

nimble patrol
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Is a 3060ti going to be able to handle 1440p over 100fps? I want to upgrade from 1080p bc it looks really blurry

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also does dlss look alot better at 1440p bc if i can use it without making my game look terrible it would negate alot of the performance drop

silent epoch
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all depends on settings

nimble patrol
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Lets say medium to high

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with dlss

misty gyro
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Depends on the game but a lot of them yeah

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The biggest concern for me would be the 8GB of VRAM since several games fill that even at 1080p

fierce geyser
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Whats the cheapest and most color accruate monitor? I just need it for content creation and I dont really care if its bad for gaming

misty gyro
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What color space are you going to be using primarily

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Something that's got 100% sRGB range might not be good for DCI-P3 or Rec.2020

misty gyro
# fierce geyser Srgb
nova talon
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hello

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good nite

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i got a probleam

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my computer does not give a video signal, through displayport only through hdmi

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this is my monitor

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lg ultragear 24gn600-b

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my specifications

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GTX 1050 ti

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AMD ryzen 5600g

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14 GB RAM

silent epoch
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so DP isnt working

misty gyro
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Possibly a bad cable or port

silent epoch
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yeah

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if theres a pinch in the cable it can do that

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could be anywhere

misty gyro
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14GB of memory though? How did you manage that? 4+4+4+2?

nova talon
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the DP WORKS when my pc are on with hdmi

misty gyro
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Interesting. Maybe a DDU is in order then.

misty gyro
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?ddu

dapper socketBOT
nova talon
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or whats means DDU?

nova talon
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OOH

nova talon
misty gyro
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So you'd run that as it says in the guide, and after that you can install the latest driver version again. Hopefully that helps. If you have questions, feel free to ask.

nova talon
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Thank you so much my friend

misty gyro
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visual girder
#

Projectors are just really expensive for good quality

misty gyro
#

Sure, the good ones are expensive. But what about the bad ones that straight up lie about their specs and are still expensive?

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An informed consumer can make better choices

kindred umbra
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wonder how the projector market will change with the normalzation of larger tvs

misty gyro
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Projectors are still significantly cheaper than massive TVs

kindred umbra
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for the most part ye

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there was a full array 100in for like 2k

nimble patrol
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should i buy?

errant edge
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Eh

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The msi $200-220 one is better

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I can never remember the model name

nimble patrol
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this one?

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Ill get this one instead

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oh but its va

neon niche
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what’s the difference in DP and HDMI?

grizzled moss
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Display ports are better for gaming while the hdmi ports are for all sorts of gaming

errant edge
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There's multiple versions of DP and hdmi

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The newer versions of each can do higher resolutions at higher refresh rates

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I forget exactly which, but either the last version of hdmi or the one before it can't do more than 1440p@144hz

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Or 4k@60hz

tribal spire
#

The big difference is VRR support iirc

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You need DP for Gsync/Freesync, while the open-source version COULD use with HDMI

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but in general, DP allows for better VRR while HDMI can work with more devices (like consoles)

misty gyro
left lichen
#

So I hope this is safe to ask. If I were to hook my PC up to a tv instead of a monitor would that be ok?

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I bought a dell monitor but I didn't have built in audio so I had to buy a sound bar so whenever I have to replace my monitor I may just use a small flatscreen tv instead

severe dirge
fallen sage
severe dirge
fallen sage
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Hmm That's Good

raw ingot
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TV often has worse response time than monitors tho

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Mind that

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A soundbar would be better

deep viper
#

does anyone know how i would exactly achieve the exact same contrast and vibrance of downloaded shutterstock video as its original?

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just name the hardware components i need and ill get them

maiden wedge
#

I am surprised there exists 540Hz monitors is the more Hz the better

errant edge
#

no

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an OLED 1440p 240hz is better

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better being subjective, but theres almost no scenario 540hz IPS is better

small warren
#

Higher hz isn't necessarily better

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As the change of the panel type itself can give a huge boost to responsiveness in a way that more hz could barely measure up to (i.e OLED >>> VA/IPS/TN)

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Whole goal of going to higher fps is to improve the responsiveness and fluidity to begin with so

misty gyro
misty gyro
tribal spire
cunning finch
#

Hey i need to get a new monitor but im using this one for my ps5 anything suggestions for decent priced good monitors

misty gyro
#

What kind of budget are you looking at?

cunning finch
misty gyro
# cunning finch Id like to keep 300 or less tbh its ony for my ps
nimble patrol
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Alot of the reviews mention washed out and bland colors though

misty gyro
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It's a cheap VA panel so that sounds about right with poor colors

nimble patrol
#

Seems better review wise

visual girder
#

@nimble patrol what's your budget for a monitor

nimble patrol
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Under $220

misty gyro
#

Much better IPS monitor

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A few bucks makes a big difference

nimble patrol
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Thanks

errant edge
#
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I meant that for ps5 person

errant edge
mystic token
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I'm trying to decide between these 2 monitors. My goal is to use the monitor for gaming/photo editing while still staying under a $400 budget if possible

LG 27-inch QHD 165Hz 1ms Nano IPS Gaming Monitor with G-SYNC/FreeSync https://a.co/d/brV6ZS2

MSI G274QPF-QD, 27" Gaming Monitor, 2560 x 1440(QHD), IPS, 170Hz, FreeSync Premium, HDR400, HDMI, Displayport, USB C, Tilt, Black https://a.co/d/6axPWKv

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I'm also open for suggestions

errant edge
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M27q

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Or the msi monitor I linked above

mystic token
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Thx

misty gyro
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The only difference between the 2 models is one has a USB hub

errant edge
#

Ah alr

errant edge
misty gyro
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I'd hesitate to recommend that, the new "S" models seem to be cheaper panels that have ghosting problems

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There's no solid reviews that I can find yet to be sure

errant edge
small warren
#

Yeah no beat on those atm

misty gyro
silent epoch
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raw ingot
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1080p tho

misty gyro
#

Still nice for people that want that 480Hz experience, but only sometimes

raw ingot
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lol

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at least without it it's a 240hz 4k

remote vapor
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If I get a super ultra wide with pbp, and have two displays side by side (PC / PS5), will the PC have to be set every time to go into 16:9 aspect ratio to fit, or will it know to change to that size display from the 32:9 it would enjoy if it was enjoying the monitor to itself?

misty gyro
#

Depends on the monitor

remote vapor
#

It’s the 49” super ultra wide qd OLED by gigabyte that recently came out.

errant edge
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Looks great

misty gyro
#

That's one of those new models, isn't it? I haven't seen any recent OLED launch that was poorly received.

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Only DP 1.4 again though, disappointing

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Oh yeah that hasn't even launched yet so very recent lol

silent epoch
#

Loooks great

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oh its QD

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sleep

tribal spire
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I mean

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QD-OLED is better in most ways than WOLED

misty gyro
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But it's also (supposedly) more prone to burn in

silent epoch
#

That purple tinting effect bothers me if this generation didn't get rid of it

tribal spire
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new gen QD-OLEDs did afaik

misty gyro
#

It's improved at least but not eliminated

kindred umbra
#

does anyone plan on doing glossy woled aside from dough's gorilla glass finish ?

raw ingot
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too much money for what it is

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on amazon they're below 100

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not 27 inches but

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1080p is better on 24" and less

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but if you so wish, it's $99 for 27"

cursive dawn
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The one I linked was 2560 x 1440

raw ingot
#

oh

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right

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this one's decent iirc

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nvm, it's va

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ips ones are decent from em

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idk about va

errant edge
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its solid

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its $120 on amazon warehouse

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g27f 2, while 1080p and 27in, is $85 on amazon warehouse

#

nice panel, but bad pixel density

cursive dawn
#

Would bad pixel density be good for old people with bad eyes?

errant edge
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Probably

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Well, not good, just not bad

fossil gust
#

It would mean things would look bigger without having to get closer to the monitor

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So yes, less eyestrain

raw ingot
#

you can combat it with scaling

cursive dawn
#

That MSI monitor I linked is down to $125

errant edge
#

which?

errant edge
#

Is it ips?

#
cursive dawn
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Mine is IPS

errant flax
#

Out of curiosity are there any good OLED Ultrawides? Use is content creation and gaming so at least QHD and preferably 144hz or higher.

#

I am figuring out which monitor I like then setting a goal to save up the approximate amount needed.

fading wyvern
maiden wedge
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OLED, TN, VA, IPS which is better for competitive gaming

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Googling doesn't help because each website gives a different answer

fading wyvern
#

Oled is pretty much the all around best display tech

errant flax
#

OLED I believe because you want fast response times

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otherwise I think IPS.

fading wyvern
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IPS is solid

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There are some tn panels that are decent

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But ips and oled are the go too

errant edge
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Tn i can confidently say is always not the correct choice

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VA if you absolutely only want curved

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There's good va panels, but they tend to be more expensive than solid ips panels

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And generally ips would be the better choice

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OLED is best period

fading wyvern
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*there are curved ips and oled screens (ips is much rarer and expensive)

errant flax
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Anyone here have experience with curved screens? I am wondering how that will affect tasks such as Coding, and 3D modeling in things like Blender.

misty gyro
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Curved screens can cause an image to appear slightly distorted when you take modeling into account

cursive dawn
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How much more demanding on my system will it be to swap my secondary monitor from 27in 1920 x 1080 60hz to a 27in 2560 x 1440 100hz?

misty gyro
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It'll use a couple more MB of video memory but that's it

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It doesn't take much processing just to run a display, I run the secondary off my integrated graphics

visual girder
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@misty gyro is this monitor worth $130

misty gyro
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Which one

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Top or bottom

fossil gust
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The one linked up there is a much more agressive curve though

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800R

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I believe mine are around 1500-1800R

fossil gust
errant flax
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ahh gotcha.

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So the lower the Curve number the more aggressive it is?

errant flax
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Are there any good OLED ultrawides under $1,000? Also is Burn-In still a concern? I leave my PC on 24/7 but with monitor set to sleep after 10m.

small warren
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aw df seems alright

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whatever the numbers are between

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lol

errant flax
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fading wyvern
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errant flax
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Also I am fine with curved after having thought through the fact that I have a flat monitor I can use if I wanna check for distortions on the side (assuming I get a curved one)

fading wyvern
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There’s steps you can use to reduce it and increase screen life

errant flax
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what is the average expectancy?

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I'd hope a $1,000 monitor lasts at least 5 years.

fading wyvern
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Rtings has a pretty long test running, and it depends on screen on time+ how much static scenes you’re viewing

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If you just have like a word document open 24/7 for like a couple weeks it’ll be burned in

errant flax
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static being completely static right? or does low-change count such as when programming on a dark screen

fading wyvern
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It would have to be completely static

errant flax
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I have my computer set to close my screen after 10m of inactivity.

fading wyvern
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You’ll be fine

errant flax
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oh okay good.

errant flax
fading wyvern
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It’s likely using the same panel you could try looking them up individually on a review site

errant flax
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Just noticed. Both say "True Black HDR 400" compared to the usual "HDR 400" is that a different kind of HDR or just marketing words?

fading wyvern
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So the cheaper option would be better; that’s marketing

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True black hdr is anything oled hdr

errant flax
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Oleds can all remake HDR 10 can't they?

fading wyvern
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Well… not really

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Peak brightness especially on original oled was garbage