old-monitors-and-tv

[hollow nymph]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/cq27g2

Here's mine💀

[fading wyvern]

[tawdry forge]

@fading wyvern do u think there is a chance that could be from my pc

?

Or just monitor

[fading wyvern]

It’s possible it could be a gpu artifact, I don’t know exactly what you’re seeing so I can’t be sure. If you have a tv around you can always try to hook up your pc to it and see if similar artifacts appear

[tawdry forge]

Idk bcs it only happends when im on fastest response time

When im on normal or fast is fine but theres only ghosting

[raw ingot]

That's the issue of some monitors overboosting

Cause no monitor can chieve 1ms

Unless it's oled

[tawdry forge]

I see

[indigo berry]

Difference between Aoc 24g2spae and 24g2spu monitors? I can't find any... :/

[tawdry forge]

yall know if i leave it on fast

instead of fastest

would it give me a disadvantage in games

?

[hollow nymph]

Just set it to whatever the one in between is on that monitor

For me it's medium

[tawdry forge]

So fast ?

[silent epoch]

Never use the fastest mode

Stay on fast

[tawdry forge]

Hm i see

[raw ingot]

You can set it to normal and you won't even be at a disadvantage against others in a game

[tawdry forge]

i see brosky

[unborn hazel]

when im playing in fullscreen sometimes the monitor does this weird thing, it turns off for around 2 seconds then turns back on it doesnt happen alot but im concerned. this happened with several games, Yakuza Like a dragon, Re4, Ds3 and a ps2 game as well. checked all the cables and everything.
is it the monitor or my gpu ded?

[misty gyro]

Sounds more like a cable or port. Try switching both.

I've got a bad HDMI cable that does that. And only during gaming like you.

[unborn hazel]

I'm using DP, 2 weeks ago with same cable I didnt have any issue at all. and oh boy when I used HDMI it happened even when im not gaming

[silent epoch]

Ooooo

dies of jealously

A follow up picture would be much appreciated

[kindred umbra]

sheesh

[errant flax]

[silent epoch]

https://youtu.be/XPEHcWyfk54

[errant flax]

QHD I presume?

[fading wyvern]

just asus throwing their logo on the $999 lg panel

[silent epoch]

Yes

That's fine. Since a 4k panel would have been more expensive

Also most people cannot run 4k. 2k is the right decision

[errant flax]

true.

[umbral imp]

Hello, I currently have an LG 27GL83A-B that I bought just a bit more than 2yrs ago on march 2021. But I want to go dual monitor. I was thinking of getting the LG 27GP850-B as my new main monitor and leave the gl83a-b as the secundary. Is that a good option? If not what 27" 2k 144hz+ monitor would you recommend for less than $450.

I'll run it with a rtx 3070

[surreal quarry]

better than the new LG one?

looks to be a bit brighter but 3ms more latency

bro why matte again nooooo

ok it has no colors in HDR bruh

[snow flint]

https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-25-Gaming-Monitor-Height-Adjustable/dp/B0733YCKM5 has anyone tried this monitor?

FOund one on market place for 200

[fading wyvern]

It’s a tn panel, wouldn’t recommend it for anything other the esport titles, colors won’t be great but response times will be nice

[tawdry forge]

wsp yall

got a new monitor

got the ips model

msi optix g2712

but the think is

that

its probably me

that got used to it but

idk sometimes it feels that there is no 170 hz

like its a bit laggy or the smoothness dosent feel

it could be from som ?

[errant edge]

Did you change the refresh rate to what it's supposed to be at?

[tawdry forge]

yh

ofc

from nviida

nvidia and settigns

[errant edge]

Have you double checked it actually changed, and didn't reset?

[tawdry forge]

yh

[errant edge]

And check windows display settings too

See what it's showing there

[tawdry forge]

everything

[errant edge]

And could try making a manual resolution and setting it to like 144hz instead of 170

[tawdry forge]

why not 170?

[errant edge]

Sometimes if the panel can't do 165/170 properly it doesn't look as good as if it were just at 144

Though normally it just wouldn't allow it to run that hz

[tawdry forge]

Hmm

i see

[errant edge]

Id try setting it to 144 and see how it looks

[tawdry forge]

ok bro

[errant edge]

If it looks better, great

[tawdry forge]

ill do it

[errant edge]

If it doesn't, then nothing lost, can just change it back

[tawdry forge]

Just did that

but nah

the normal res

looks better

its prob just me

[maiden wedge]

good display 24" ips display with VESA mount for color and viewing (2nd monitor)

budget is uhh, $150 max

lower would be nice, i just want a 2nd monitor because i deserve it lol

[topaz iris]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824281146?Item=N82E16824281146

I have this monitor and a 4090 - for some reason sometimes it flickers off - just like turns off for a moment then comes back on. Happens during games mostly, very very rarely when not playing a game. its suddenly a lot worse now.

specifically happens on games like valorant

where the sytem is capable of running tons of frames

any ideas?

[misty gyro]

Try disabling freesync/gsync

You don't need it when you're running way above the refresh rate anyway

So it's just using bandwidth

[silent epoch]

hmmm

[topaz iris]

okie! just disabled it in tthe monitors settings. hopefully that solves it. thank you :)

[potent marsh]

hey what kind of monitors would you guys recommend for cod competitive?

https://www.amazon.com/BenQ-XL2546K-Flexible-adjustment-Customizable/dp/B08G57L985/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=benq%2B240hz%2Bxl2546&qid=1651283989&sprefix=benq%2B240hz%2Bxl%2Caps%2C70&sr=8-2&th=1

i was looking at this one but idk if theres anything better for a cheaper price

[errant edge]

Do you play for fun or for money

And what cpu and gpu do you have

And what's your budget/country

[potent marsh]

I play competitive so the plan is to hit the stage if I ever get the opportunity to.

3070ti and a 5800x3d

[errant edge]

Alright, so 240hz is plausible for your use case

[potent marsh]

And anything around 300 at most if it's possible

[errant edge]

1080p probably then, though if you plan to upgrade gpu within the next couple years and want to keep the monitor

1440p would be nice, but lower frames

So worse for competitive up to a certain point. If you're running a 4080 at 1080p I have issues with you, even if you play competitively lol

Alright one sec, let me take a look around

[potent marsh]

Yeah I need to push as many frames as possible lol

[errant edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qdFbt6/dell-s2522hg-245-1920x1080-240-hz-monitor-s2522hg
I think I'd go with this one

If not that, this would be second option imo. Could also wait for someone else's input https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8kNxFT/asus-rog-strix-xg249cm-238-1920-x-1080-270-hz-monitor-90lm07k0-b01ab0

[potent marsh]

Yeah I was looking at that rog strix one last night

[fading wyvern]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B097S9SYM5?tag=rtings-mn-r-amazon-20&ie=UTF8&th=1 this is what rtings suggested, you could also try the 280hz in that same link

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/viewsonic/xg2431

[small warren]

XG2431 I think is recommended by blurbusters too

[potent marsh]

Man for a .5 ms 240 hz monitor along with the 280hz seems pretty cheap

Almost too good to be true

[fading wyvern]

Real world response is more like 3.6-11ms

I’d pick the 240 since rtings recommended it

[potent marsh]

I'm being told TN panels are best just because they have the best response timing just everything else is bad

But I feel like that's not gonna help if I play cod so I don't feel I need to buy a TN panel

[errant edge]

No

Tn panels are the worst

[potent marsh]

See that's what I'm sayin

[errant edge]

They were once worth it as they had faster refresh rates, but they don't even have that now

They have slower response time, worse color accuracy, worse everything

IPS is what you should shoot for, VA is acceptable depending on budget

There's other panel types like oled but I don't believe many other panel types are popular below 4k

[potent marsh]

Yeah I figured ips was best cause that's all I see now is ips panels

[raw ingot]

IPS is all around very good

[potent marsh]

I'm happy yall found that one on 10 percent off cause jeez that's a good deal. I'll have to hurry up. And get it when I can

[silent epoch]

Hmm

[indigo berry]

Aoc 24G2SP or itek GGF (1080p144)?

[brave pivot]

Who is try those monitor and what's better?

Check this out on @Newegg:ASUS TUF Gaming 28" 4K 144Hz DSC HDMI 2.1 Gaming Monitor (VG28UQL1A) - UHD (3840 x 2160), Fast IPS, 1ms, Extreme Low Motion Blur Sync, G-SYNC Compatible, FreeSync Premium, Eye Care, DCI-P3 90% https://www.newegg.com/global/sa-en/black-asus-tuf-gaming-vg28uql1a-28/p/N82E16824281157?Item=N82E16824281157&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-281-157-_-04082023

Check this out on @Newegg:LG UltraGear 27GN95B-B 27" UHD Nano IPS 3840 x 2160 (4K) 1ms (GTG at Faster) 144 Hz HDMI, DisplayPort, USB AMD FreeSync Premium Pro and NVIDIA G-SYNC Compatible Gaming Monitor https://www.newegg.com/global/sa-en/black-lg-ultragear-27gn95b-b-27/p/N82E16824026058?Item=N82E16824026058&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-026-058-_-04082023

[misty gyro]

I'm assuming this is for gaming.
What GPU would you be playing with? Anything less than a 3090 or 4080 you probably want 1440p, so you can hit those higher frame rates.

[brave pivot]

What about 4070 ti?
And yes it's for gaming

[small warren]

Sorta can do 4k

But 1440p you're gonna get that good fps

[silent epoch]

Hhhhmmm

[silent epoch]

I'm still going to play at 1440p even with a 5090

Future rtx games are going to be very demanding

[trim brook]

Based take jp

[severe dirge]

I like this idea

[raw ingot]

something something dlss 4

[silent epoch]

We'll have too many fps by then 💀

[raw ingot]

dlss 4 will reduce actual gpu rendering load to 7%

the rest is frame generation

basically eliminates latency issues

and ofc will be 50 series exclusive cuz hardware reasons

[severe dirge]

I'm ready

[silent epoch]

7 percent. Bring it on

A 240hz+ 1440p monitor would work very well next gen

[raw ingot]

with such high end gpus i rather play 4k

[severe dirge]

I just realized.. I feel like my 3080 12gb is so low end compared to 40 series

[raw ingot]

idc if i have that much money

nah

that's what 4070 will probably match lol

[silent epoch]

If it delivers the same amount of frames you can get at 1440p this gen, then it will be time. But good 4k monitors are still a big expensive

[trim brook]

4070 tier gpu

bruh that is not really low end lol

[severe dirge]

But no dlss3

[trim brook]

😭

[raw ingot]

1440p with high hz is also expensive as well

[silent epoch]

Hm

[severe dirge]

It is?

[silent epoch]

Eh

240 isn't that bad now

[trim brook]

with frame generation hitting high fps numbers like 240 kinda feasible

[silent epoch]

360 and up is when it gets expensive

[trim brook]

even in AAA games

[raw ingot]

imo going above 165hz benefits nothing

if i have that much money to get such high end pc, i'd want 4k myself

[small warren]

???????

Permission to rename channel to #cursedideas

[severe dirge]

It's funny we were kinda having this Convo just earlier 😛

[unkempt sand]

anyone have a recommendation for hdmi display cables for dual pc monitors?

[small warren]

Cheap but decent hdmi 2.1 cables

Try any half decent amazon brand like ugreen or amazon basics (yes their cables are ok)

[unkempt sand]

I got something called "Snowkids"

Never heard of the brand before.

[small warren]

Never heard of snowkids lol

[unkempt sand]

Like just now bought it.

Darn, whelp here we go

[small warren]

Honestly anyone could start a hdmi cable company

But cables are cables, as long as they can handle the bandwidth they should work

[unkempt sand]

they say they have a rtx 3090 chip built in the cord, so not sure what that means but we'll see ig.

[small warren]

OH LMAO

I'VE SEEN THOSE

That snap is a meme

But the cables themselves are probably fine

[silent epoch]

3090 chip built in the cord?????????

[errant flax]

UNLIMITED POWER!!!

https://tenor.com/view/gpu-rtx-3080-gif-19640317

[silent epoch]

😳

[vagrant lark]

Hello

Whats a good 1440p 144hz display with a reasonable price

Around 27 inch

[quartz sandal]

What country?

[vagrant lark]

Italy

I just want good colors for it

I mostly play single player games and casually some multiplayer games

Found this one, its too expensive for me, but maybe if i save a little bit more i can afford it

https://www.amazon.it/MSI-G273QF-Monitor-Gaming-Display/dp/B08VH7Q7R2/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=3S7DQPMIAAAIN&keywords=Monitor+MSI+Gaming+Optix+G273QPF+-+LED+27&qid=1681035019&sprefix=monitor+msi+gaming+optix+g273qpf+-+led+27%2Caps%2C587&sr=8-2

[quartz sandal]

I'd have a look at this one
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/product/3HkgXL/lg-32gn600-b-315-2560x1440-165-hz-monitor-32gn600-b

[vagrant lark]

Ok

What about a cheaper option, do u have any recommendations

Oh wait idk why it said 380€

Lol

[quartz sandal]

There's also this one but it's curved
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/product/D23gXL/viewsonic-vx2718-2kpc-mhd-270-2560x1440-165-hz-curved-monitor-vx2718-2kpc-mhd

[vagrant lark]

I don't mind, as long as its decent

Thx a lot

[quartz sandal]

Np

[rocky cypress]

what screws is the vesa mount on desktop monitors

i see m4, m6, and m8 lmao

[misty gyro]

Yes
It depends on the mount used but all 3 are possible

[rocky cypress]

[gilded aurora]

MSI MAG274QRX vs gigabyte m27qx which one is better

[fading wyvern]

M27qx https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/msi-optix-mag274qrf-qd-vs-gigabyte-m27q-x/19535/31657?

[gilded aurora]

240hz

msi one

[misty gyro]

Yeah that's the wrong model in the comparison

[fading wyvern]

Welp

It’s probably a tossup then, decide on price and aesthetics. Think there’s a review on YouTube

[mighty tide]

Best 4k highish refresh rate monitor

For reasonable price as well, not sure how much they go for

[small warren]

FV43U, M32U/M28U

Time to go 4K then? 💀

(I don't blame you I do the same on the XTX)

[mighty tide]

😭

Yeah no clue what I was thinking

[small warren]

Lolol

[mighty tide]

I just liked seeing the numbers go up

I was on 1080P with a 3080 for a little....

But 4k is the next upgrade

[small warren]

4K def worth

Those 3 are on the cheaper side and my suggestion

You also have odyssey G8/G7 4K if you find it cheap

[mighty tide]

I can't find any comparisons between 4k and 1440p but I've heard from a lot its way bigger than you'd think

[small warren]

Yes

Huge ppi increase

It's better to go 32"+ for 4k

To leverage the resolution

Most people don't really see the difference at 27"

[mighty tide]

Really? Not sure how monitors work but I'd think higher resolution and smaller would make it like, denser

[small warren]

It does

You're right

But we only see that improvement so much

Until it becomes, basically inconceivable to the 99%

4K phones and laptops are basically memes because 1080p can look equally as good at that screen size for almost everyone since the pixel density is so thick

4K also looks really good on big screens anyways

[mighty tide]

Even 43 inch? That seems insane

[small warren]

Like I barely see pixels on me 43 inch sitting 2 feet away

Ye

[mighty tide]

Might pop by a store with them to see the difference in person

[small warren]

Absolutely, they aren't cheap, def worth some research

It would be a worthy reso for your rig tho

[mighty tide]

My 1440p monitor was just some random one I saw on sale

[small warren]

Hey man

My first monitor splurge was a 4K 60

I couldn't run anything on it

We've all had our moments

[mighty tide]

FPS scaling between resolutions seems so wonky

I get 125ish at 1440p rdr2, but benchmarks say like 110 at 4k

that seems too close 😭

[small warren]

Probably a cpu bottleneck

[mighty tide]

I saw a 4090 benchmark with a 10700F. was actually sad

GPU usage was like 60% lol

[mighty tide]

For me or the 4k benchmark?

[silent epoch]

https://youtu.be/YCefv2L0vmQ

[small warren]

Likely yours but also some 4K games are choked on a 4090

[mighty tide]

Yeah my CPU usage in higher quality games is like 30-40% sometimes at low freq, dont really understand why but assuming its because of somethin weird with the GPU

Tbf most benchmarks are using like a 13900K so..

[small warren]

Well it's cos the cpu render can't keep up with the gpu render

Both need to be high to push a higher frame rate

[mighty tide]

With a 7700X? Damn

[small warren]

So you can run a lower reso for more fps ye, but only to a point

[small warren]

Ye

I had this issue with a 13900KF

On the 4090

[mighty tide]

GPUs are too strong

[small warren]

So really pretty much any cpu rn are kneecapped by a 4090

[mighty tide]

Most insane problem to have

[small warren]

Some games also scale well with resolution

Nothing is black and white there are a few reasons

I'm also some rando on the internet

💀

[mighty tide]

It makes some sense so I'll trust you and in the end I'm almost wasting my specs at 1440P

• anything over 60 at 4k is still amazing lmao

[small warren]

You really want a high refresh 4k imo yeah

Or some crazy high 1440p refresh like 360hz

XTX can sort of pair well with a 240hz M27Q-X

[mighty tide]

Only games I play anywhere near a competitive level are locked at 60 FPS 😢

4K seems better either way. Not some crazy CSGO player

I've also seen the difference between 144 and 360 and while its noticeable its not like....game changing

Unless youre playing something competitively then I bet it's relatively noticeable

[small warren]

Yeah true that

It really is pretty much like that

Once you get to 144 you start to get diminishing returns real fast

Other parts of the system are also holding you back more for responsiveness at that point too

[mighty tide]

I've been whooped by people on a 75hz dell optiplex upgrade before so doubt itd make me much better 😭

[mighty tide]

So I've heard. Would be cool to have 500hz monitor or somethin

But 1080p for like 800?

[small warren]

500hz is hilarious cos there's only a handful of relevant games that will get that number lol

It will sell tho

Like 8K polling mice, there's a market

8K mice actually kinda do make a big difference tho

[mighty tide]

I saw some graph of the response time for different components and they've got monitor down so low that I don't really think its worth it. Isn't like GPU or CPU response the biggest part?

[small warren]

Ye

[mighty tide]

I can't find it but monitor accounted for so little compared to the rest

[small warren]

Basically you reduce the frametimes down to like, fractions of a second going to 144hz

Then to 240 and 360hz you cut those fractions into smaller fractions

[mighty tide]

I love watching 144hz vs 500hz comparisons and its literally pixels of difference

[small warren]

So like, 144hz is 6.9ms

Vs 60 is 16ms

A good, well over 50% improvement

240hz is 4.2ms

360hz is 2.8

500 is 2ms lmao

[mighty tide]

.8 ms?! Thats massive!

I'll surely notice that for the extra 500 dollars!

[small warren]

Meanwhile a week tuning your ram will remove a good 5-10ms

Out of your total somewhat 28-60ms system latency

And aim training will reduce your 120ms response time

[mighty tide]

TRUE LOL

[small warren]

It's like, yeah, goals ig

[mighty tide]

Its gotta be placebo at a certain point

[small warren]

Ofc

Mice upping polling rate help response significantly too

Going 1K to 8K is a good 6-8ms

[mighty tide]

Crazy to think that literal milliseconds are noticeable to a certain extent

[raw ingot]

8k polling rate, yeowch

so few games could handle it that high

[mighty tide]

But again knowing theres a change probably makes you notice it more

[small warren]

Yesh truth, the overhead hits hard

[small warren]

Placebo and marketing lol

[raw ingot]

either game can't process the info

or cpu dies

[small warren]

Callback to the 75hz optiplex players slapping on GTX 1060's

[raw ingot]

hell i even have issues with 250hz polling rate on my mouse

[small warren]

Game sense is big

[raw ingot]

roblox sucks butt

[mighty tide]

Would be interesting to see like, 244hz 1k polling rate mouse vs 500hz 8k polling rate where the person doesn't know which is which

[raw ingot]

125hz or horrible input delay

[mighty tide]

I used to lose to a guy who played on like an 8 inch tablet screen with 30 fps 😭

At a certain extent hardware won't help

[small warren]

Even if you did, there are real tests that show the improvements are minimal at best

[raw ingot]

i would say using high dpi with good sensor is better than setting higher polling rate as in the improvement in your aim

[small warren]

Game sense OP

[mighty tide]

Real and true

But maybe at the highest of highest level offline that 0.1ms will make some difference

[raw ingot]

i doubt it does ngl

system latency is way higher anyway

[mighty tide]

well they'll find something to blame everytime

[raw ingot]

likely placebo effect

well there goes the whole marketing point of polling rate

it does make a diff, but it's in milliseconds

[small warren]

God here's another good one, system bloat

All that rgb software can make literal milliseconds

GOG always open? Bloat

Wallpaper engine? Bloat

[raw ingot]

i guess the milliseconds saved by switching to 8k is worth it kek

[small warren]

All those little things can bring as much improvement or more than going 360hz to 500hz 💀

[raw ingot]

definitely

i honestly kinda fell into being fooled that high polling rate means better

when good sensor matters more

[small warren]

It does help if you can use it properly

[raw ingot]

yeah if you can

[small warren]

Good sensors help for sure too

[raw ingot]

just bummed that i have to adjust polling rate for every game

[small warren]

It's just meme marketing

Like ig

In 20 years everyone will have 4K 500hz

[raw ingot]

lol

[small warren]

And none of it matters lmao

[raw ingot]

now i can't blame the mouse cuz i got something decent

i got skill issue

[small warren]

G305 stonk

[raw ingot]

304 but yes

wireless life

[mighty tide]

I fell into the g pro bandwagon

[raw ingot]

i don't even notice the "heavy" weight of 90 grams

[small warren]

G pro is fine, just getting on

[raw ingot]

the marketing for light mice seems pointless to me

[small warren]

If they re released the mamba I'd be all over that 90g brick

Mamba was perfect for me lol

[raw ingot]

just don't have noodle arms and heavy mice will be good

[mighty tide]

I need it!

Its light!

[raw ingot]

the shape

hand pain

[mighty tide]

I know someone with one

No clue why you would submit yourself to that torture

[small warren]

You know someone with an xtrfy?

[raw ingot]

can't play more than 10 mins without hurting hands

[small warren]

That tiny mouse is like, peak fingertip

[raw ingot]

i like g303

the shape looks so funky

idk if it would fit my hands tho

[mighty tide]

not sure of which one, but its that style

[small warren]

Oh it's not called xtrfy mb

Wat da hecc da tiny one called

[mighty tide]

M2K

[raw ingot]

it's gonna take so long before my lithium aa batt gets to be used

[small warren]

Zaunkonig

Ye m2k

[raw ingot]

i shouldn't have hurried and bought it lmao

i think i claw or palm my mouse

don't care enough to tell the exact diff

but i feel g305 is a nice size for me

[cerulean mountain]

You guys think this tv would be alright to console game on? Price is super low for some reason. Looking to upgrade from a 43" LG Nanocell tv.

[errant flax]

Why do people seem to have this obsession with gargantuan tvs?...

[silent epoch]

65 isn't gargantuan

It's the sweet spot for 4k

[trim brook]

Put a series x on it lay back on a couch it will be quite a experience

[sick pivot]

Now i have a question when a gaming monitor reaches a certant amount of hours on does it start to almost like break down entil it wont turn on anymore my lg gaming monitor has 3896 hours on and the hdmi cords are starting not to even work anymore but randomly start working idk if its the cord or not either

[misty gyro]

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/tu7000

[cerulean mountain]

@misty gyro wow it's actually not that bad. And it's a pretty recent review. Going to find my current tv model to see if its better or worse. Just wanting a 65 inch so I can read the text on screen from about 14 feet away.

[cerulean mountain]

Lol that samsung entry level TV that's a year older beats my LG 43" TV by 2 points in every category. Wish I did a bit more research earlier.

[silent epoch]

https://youtu.be/R0AkfhZp70w

[errant flax]

What's WOLED?

[quiet finch]

I wish they made 32 4k woled

[silent epoch]

white, red, green, and blue sub pixels

[proper lark]

I got a VS17X Monitor but there is no power at all, no LED light or anything

[small warren]

You know like, whoa led

🗿

[fading wyvern]

[silent epoch]

techie level response

[kindred umbra]

Not the biggest fan of the tu7000 series due to the amount of issues they give customers

and in terms of picture quality, the au8000 or q60b would compete with a nano cell 75

if you don’t wanna spend anymore then I’d recommend the uq75 which is the direct competition to the tu7000 or you could test out the newer cu7000

[maiden wedge]

What are good curved monitors

[fading wyvern]

Oled

[small warren]

MAG342CQR iirc

For 1440p

[mighty tide]

Anyone know how much full array vs edge lit actually matters? Have been looking for a 4k monitor and was talking to a friend

They hyped up full array local dimming an insane amount and there's only one 4k monitor with it and its over 1k but yknow don't know if it's worth it

[clear temple]

edge lit isnt worth it for hdr

[mighty tide]

if HDR isn't a priority, does the extra money make sense?

[small warren]

Huge huge difference

Edge lit gives really middling results in dark scenes

[clear temple]

wouldnt this mean that local dimming wont matter for u?

[mighty tide]

they told me that it made a huge difference in quality

and showed some images that seemed sorta like it could just be marketing

[clear temple]

i thing the hallo will be a bar from edge to edge

[mighty tide]

i dont understand the technology very well, and im gonna go to like a micro center or somewhere with displays to see myself but im not sure if its fully worth

because its like, double what i'm looking at

[clear temple]

there is haloing in full array local dimming , but its less noticable depending at the dimming zones

[clear temple]

if you dont care about hdr u could buy a monitor without diming?

[small warren]

A good resource for this are to look up edge lit tests on rtings. They have videos for this stuff and you can see the difference in person

I can tell you the difference is definitely significant

[mighty tide]

well i dont understand the technology so i dont understand how important it is 😢

[small warren]

HDR expands the colour space used

[clear temple]

it only matters for hdr and black levels i think

[mighty tide]

my current monitor has fake HDR and it really does not look that good

so I just leave it off

[small warren]

Yeah probably some hdr 400 display lol

[clear temple]

because it probably has no dimming at all

[small warren]

So @mighty tide, imagine for local array dimming, the bit of the screen that intends to brighten up, is what brightens up yeah?

[mighty tide]

and edge lit is just the edge closest to it?

[small warren]

For edge lit, imagine a flourescent light (one of those old school bars in old buildings) lighting up the screen from the side

Ye from the closest side

It's casting the light from the side instead of underneath

So you get some glow from the source

And it can be very obvious on some displays

Local dimming helps a lot for dark scenes and hdr

More true contrast

[mighty tide]

well fair enough guess ill take a look at one if I can find it. only ever seen fake HDR so I have no clue if it's truly as different as people say it is

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gl83a-b
current monitor

i saw 1440p IPS 144hz for 250 and thought it was simple as that ngl

[small warren]

That's quite a good screen

Lol

[mighty tide]

underrated demon at accidentally buying good things

welp i planned on going to 4k at some point either way since i have the hardware for it, might wait a bit to see different monitors though

[small warren]

M32u

The only choice for 4K

Otherwise big

BICC

TV

LG C2/FV43U

PG42UQ

[mighty tide]

been recommended in every video ive seen and person ive talked to besides aforementioned local dimming fan

[mighty tide]

My current monitor arm can't hold any 32 inch monitors

They're too heavy

[small warren]

how heavy is the m32u

[mighty tide]

15.9lbs without stand, current arm max is 14.3

[small warren]

ooof

what about m28u

[mighty tide]

ehhhh around 11-12 I think

[small warren]

[mighty tide]

but im fine buying a new arm, current one was like 20 bucks on amazon and im surprised at how well it has worked

[small warren]

ah ok fair enough

yeah that extra size is a big difference

[mighty tide]

ive heard AA is less needed at higher PPI/resolution, is that true?

not quite sure how the technology works

[small warren]

not my field to ask but I think I've heard that before myself

[mighty tide]

getting 4k for rdr2

https://media.tenor.com/6xesQ4O9ucAAAAAC/2omb-prayge.gif

[misty gyro]

It depends on the game and the size of the texture files. 4k textures won't need as much AA at high res for example, but if it has 1080p textures they'll look really bad at 4k without some kind of filter.

Distant object textures also matter and vary by game, even if it does have true 4k textures

[mighty tide]

That makes sense. Thanks! Guess I'll just turn it on and off in games and see which is better when I get a monitor :)

[silent epoch]

get it. i had the same exact monitor

[mighty tide]

get what? m32?

[silent epoch]

damnit. i misread

the M32U? sure

[mighty tide]

np lol 😄

im gonna get 4k at some point but we'll see

[kindred umbra]

not too many stores carry monitors with full array on display but if you can’t find any you could use a x90k and x85k kinda for reference

It’s gonna be full array vs direct lit but it’s still a noticeable difference

And way more stores carry em on display

[maiden wedge]

Good monitor? Or are there any better options

I play fps games like overwatch

[misty gyro]

Curved so it has the VA screen with noticeable ghosting. IPS is better, so the non-curved models.

[lethal musk]

Hey everyone!
So I’m new to the wonderful world of OLED. That said, I recently got the 27” 240hz LG, and as I was setting it up I remember reading about some color calibration app that LG has available for download?
Is it worth trying to find and check out?
I haven’t noticed anything at all that bothers me with the monitor as it is now, just wondering if there’s maybe something to it I might be missing.

[clear temple]

ona a bright scene ( no blacks ) on sdr , will an oled look better than an lcd?

normal lcd, no fancy dimming zones or quantom dotes

[silent epoch]

Finally, someone who bought the monitor. It's called the LG Calibration Studio.

If I'm correct, it's only possible to change it in SDR, but not HDR. I'm not entirely sure

Also there's a firmware update that you have to apply that just came out.

I'm thinking of getting the LG 27GR95QE-B too..... maybe

How's the brightness for you?

[kindred umbra]

tragic that a c2 remote powers on/off the monitor otherwise I’d would’ve bought one already

Waiting on the Asus variant to be more readily available

[silent epoch]

It just pushes the LG panel harder, that might increase the speed of burn in @kindred umbra

But people say the difference is good

But seriously....burn in isn't a big issue

[kindred umbra]

Ye, my c2 is like 3 feet away from my setup and regularly used so the remote powering it off is a deal breaker for me

But there’s been a few oled monitors that’s gone thru my store, they look really good

and they updated packaging for the 27in oled which is nice

[silent epoch]

Oh you the c2. Nice

The C3 I've heard is amazing with it's new MLA panel

it's brighter

[hollow nymph]

JUST BUY IT ALLRRRRR

[kindred umbra]

It’s gonna be hard to not upgrade to newer oled but I 100% don’t need it

We were supposed to get huge accommodations for the newer a80L when it drops

[mighty tide]

oled will be affordable

someday i swear

[silent epoch]

I agree

[kindred umbra]

if mini led monitors had better sdr id prob consider it since it's like half the price of oled

why does oled have to be so good

[silent epoch]

It just is lol

[kindred umbra]

ye I'm trying to cope big time

doesn't help that the place I work at has the lg 27, 45in, g8 and Alienware all in stock

[silent epoch]

Tempting 😬

[kindred umbra]

I jus need Samsung to release a qd oled 27in

it'd be the fastest I buy anything

[daring thicket]

glossy too pls

frick matte finish theres no windows behind me anyway

[silent epoch]

QD-OLED does burn in slightly faster than regular OLED

[kindred umbra]

Jus means I get a free guaranteed replacement with a protection plan

[silent epoch]

Ah yes yes

Honestly people need to understand that OLED tech won't get any better until we have Micro-LED or anything that's equivalent to it

I would say...just buy whatever you can afford, life is not a waiting game

It's short

Waiting for that Samsung might be a good idea

Hopefully not next year

[kindred umbra]

Ye I'ma see if anything happens around fall

[misty gyro]

The flaw with OLED is the O. Organic. Organic material will discolor over time and will do so faster at higher temperatures, like when you're shining a 1000 nit LED through it.

[silent epoch]

Water/LN2 cooled OLED when?

[maiden wedge]

I got the m28u.

From gigabyte.

[misty gyro]

Nice choice

[errant flax]

if only high refresh oled didn't cost like $1,000 then I wouldn't be so afraid of buying one 😢

[misty gyro]

Plus short warranties, and warranties that don't cover burn in

You gotta be real careful choosing an oled

[silent epoch]

Best buys provides an extended warranty that covers burn-in up to 4 years

It's a little costly, but it's worth it. I'm not sure who else does that

[misty gyro]

Yeah this is one of those few times where I would recommend an extended warranty

Squaretrade, can we talk about this

What about it is abnormal

[silent epoch]

Wow all-state lol

So with warranty and these monitors being first generation ( OLED tech has been around for over 10 years and they still haven't solved the issue of burn-in, only to slow it down), would you think it's a good idea for those who want to hop the fence to purchase one?

[misty gyro]

If you can afford to drop a grand on a monitor you can afford to replace it later

[silent epoch]

Maybe.... M27Q-x will do

[misty gyro]

What you could do is use a cheap VA monitor as a primary and just use the OLED for gaming/movies, then you don't risk burn in from the desktop

[silent epoch]

Not a bad idea

I already have a cheap IPS

[kindred umbra]

gsps are goated

you could essentially get a few tv every 4years

Free *

[silent epoch]

I'M GOING TO DO IT

I just need money

[kindred umbra]

they’re p picky about burn in tho

[silent epoch]

That's good. I wonder how good microcenter is

[kindred umbra]

Iirc it has to be like 3 pixels

[silent epoch]

What

[kindred umbra]

I’m not sure about burn in since it’s not common but for dead pixels, there has to be like 3-4 in order to gsp

At least for the TVs

Monitor might be dif, haven’t looked into it much

[silent epoch]

I see

[trim brook]

Ngl that is kinda the point of dropping big money on things like monitor and headphones

You hold on to em way way longer then cpu or gpu

Specially gpu lol

[mighty tide]

@small warren Got the M32U-actually perfect lol

32 inches is way bigger than I thought

But in a good way, super spacious and games look insanely better

Man this thing is pretty

And I haven't adjusted colors or anything yet

[misty gyro]

That's countered by the risks involved with buying the latest and greatest thing in this case.

[small warren]

[mighty tide]

It's almost certainly placebo but damn does it look good

Don't regret it at all, 4k is great!

Funny enough I get very similar performance to 1440p lol

Mightve been bottlenecked but idk

[small warren]

Oh you probably were a little bit

Depending on the game

[mighty tide]

FSR seems a lot more usable as well for some reason, but damn is 4k nice

[errant flax]

Next step is 8k 😄

[mighty tide]

My wallet is crying 😭

[errant flax]

What's the M32U like? Considering saving up for it if I don't go with oled.

[mighty tide]

It's great, out of the box it looked pretty good but if you spend a bit going through settings its truly amazing. Depends on the person but it's great

HDR isn't amazing but thats not why you buy this monitor, and the FALD is good enough for me

[errant flax]

HDR increases brightness and contrast right?

[mighty tide]

I haven't seen OLED so I can't compare truly

[errant flax]

what does FALD stand for?

[mighty tide]

Full array local dimming

[errant flax]

Are the blacks good on it thend?

[small warren]

Should be yeah. It's one of the best IPS panels you can buy rn

[mighty tide]

I can't really speak to that since I don't have a comparison, but I don't have a single issue with any of the colors or anythin

It looks great

[small warren]

Blacks good enough for what it is I'm sure

[mighty tide]

If you find it for a good price and have the money it's 100% worth

Really nice size and stand as well

[small warren]

My favourite knick knack on that monitor is the kvm tho

Very handy if you ever get a second pc for your setup

[mighty tide]

I won't be using it for a long time but it's definitely a very useful tool if you have multiple systems

[small warren]

Ya

[mighty tide]

If I ever end up getting a PS5 or series X it'll be a lifesaver

[small warren]

Fr

[mighty tide]

but even without that it's good value afaik

the micro center i got it at was displaying it through a laptop, at 1440p

so it looked super bad

[small warren]

Lol

[mighty tide]

i told em and they said they couldnt do anything so it is what it is lol

all of their 4k monitors were like that

[small warren]

Prolly cos the spec is high end

They could have used low hz 4k tho

Kinda weird

[mighty tide]

to me it looked like they were all being displayed by a single laptop and were all different resolutions

since there were a few 1440p few 4k

[small warren]

[mighty tide]

i got a little worried but trusted in it lol

def good

[small warren]

I can empathise

Seeing the screen I would be looking at in this nasty profile

[mighty tide]

Watching some FALD demos theres some clear shortcomings of it but unless you wanna watch all black videos or somethin it's fine lol

[small warren]

Pretty much yeah

It's nice having that little extra tho

In dark scenes on edge lit screens the sizes would light up pretty noticeably

[mighty tide]

i definitely cant see like glow from around white squares, but funnily enough going through a youtube video thats all black and scrolling the war i can see the lines showing up

[small warren]

Ya

Some screens it can be really noticeable

[mighty tide]

i had some friends demanding i get a G7 instead but i really dont see how much better it could get than this tbh

and def not $600 extra 😭 cost more than my GPU

[small warren]

G7 is nice? G7 is not an XTX screen

[mighty tide]

or wait

maybe thinking of different screens

[small warren]

Oh do you mean G9

[mighty tide]

samsung odyssey neo g7

[small warren]

Oh neo

Yeah I'm talking the older G7

The neo is a pass

Good but no way it's worth the price it sells for

[mighty tide]

thas what im saying

[small warren]

The older G7 is 1440p 240hz and quite nice, but it's not for this level of gpu imo

[mighty tide]

outside of maybe content creation or productivity i dont see a reason to get the G7

or unless you got a good deal/insane amount to spend

[small warren]

I think that screen would be good if it cost less than an m32u

[mighty tide]

M32 remains the king 👑

[small warren]

Ya, recommended everywhere for a reason

[mighty tide]

there was an open box ROG monitor but it was still like $800 and just didnt wanna risk it

[small warren]

Some rog's are really nice but nah, not over m32u

Pg42uq for 800 would've been pretty sweet

LG C2 OLED Evo is basically what that specific rog is

[mighty tide]

It was the pg32 I believe

[small warren]

Ah, meh

[plain vault]

Anyone know how to make a background image span between just 3 monitors but also keeps a 4th with a different background which is my drawing tablet out of the span table

[small warren]

Wallpaper engine is excellent for this

110% can do this you just group 3 screens

[plain vault]

Thanks

[balmy plaza]

What is a good 1440 p monitor for brokies

[misty gyro]

HP X27Q when it's on sale around $210, happens fairly often

[balmy plaza]

Is that good

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475279?item=N82E16824475279

[quartz sandal]

If you want curved that looks like a decent choice ye

[sonic vapor]

Everyone, what is the best 240hz+, any Resolution, 1ms/0.5ms Response Time monitor for $150-$300 that we can get right now?

---I saw @errant edge's recommendation in #tech-deals for $149.99, but couldn't find any more information for that model on Rtings.com. I like to do extensive research & study real-life testing, so stats "on the box" aren't necessarily perfect unless real-life testing can be shown.

---I additionally found this monitor on Rtings.com, https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/viewsonic/xg2431. It was the best recommended, but was very close to the $300 budget maximum, being $279.99 + Tax.

TL;DR: Looking for the best 240Hz monitor for Hyper-Completive eSports titles. 'Have the PC to handle it & am looking at other important stats, such as 0.5ms / 0.3ms response times as valuble too. Budget: $150-$300, good deals/lower prices preferred if the cost-to-benefit ratio is > than higher priced cost-to-benefit ratios.

[errant edge]

Why did I get pinged 3 times

[misty gyro]

Looks like they deleted and re-wrote that 3 times

[misty gyro]

For 1080p, this one is good. It was well reviewed as a $250-300 monitor and it's $150 right now. https://deals.dell.com/en-us/productdetail/gb0n

1440p 240Hz seems to be out of budget right now unless you get a crappy VA panel

[silent epoch]

VA

[misty gyro]

Yeah not even VA is in budget, you're right only TN

[sonic vapor]

Out of the price to performance, would you still recommend the dell deal over the ViewSonic 0.5ms response time?

[silent epoch]

just to note, There are no LCD panel that can hit that low of a response time. It could get close on the fastest setting, but they're very prone to overshooting and artifacts. its a marketing LIE unless you go OLED which is way beyond your budget

[sonic vapor]

Hold on, so the view sonic truly is not 0.5ms response time?

[silent epoch]

nope

impossible

it will be above 3ms

[sonic vapor]

Jeez, how can they get away with that blatant lie, then?

Legally I mean

[misty gyro]

If you put it in the fastest overdrive mode, which is usually unplayable due to ghosting, there might be a single transition from grey to grey that gets within 0.5ms

That's the loophole

[silent epoch]

right.

[sonic vapor]

So, all in all, dell 100%?

I see no stat differences on paper

and it's $130 saved

[misty gyro]

It's meant to be a $250+ monitor and it looks like it's on clearance, hard to beat that

[sonic vapor]

Let's go!

Is there really any better deal out there for a 240hz monitor?

Or is this the best we’ll see?

Because in that case I might just get one for myself too

[silent epoch]

i can look

[misty gyro]

Feel free, the next one I saw was $200 that was 240Hz IPS

[silent epoch]

Fal's find is pretty good

[sonic vapor]

You guys know how long this sale will go on for?

[small warren]

Advertised ms response is marketing btw

Check rtings for actual response times

It can also depend on settings, some have insane overshoot to achieve that said response

[spark gust]

looking for a monitor recommendation please. Current are really bad.. Not 100% sure what specs help, but R7 3700, 2070 super, 32 RAM. Best bang for your buck?

[small warren]

EDIT: Nvm just 1080p is good

1080p, G24F 2, always a good price, around $150-ish

Eh actually nah, 1080p is probably the most ideal, I over evaluated the card for a moment there

G24F 2 is about all I'd recommend, solid panel that always stays at a pretty consistent low price

[spark gust]

Thank you! I'll look at the G24F 2

[small warren]

Np

[trim brook]

Dodged a bullet there

[mighty tide]

@small warren you have the m32 right?

Have you found a way to stop that light when it’s not connected to a PC

[small warren]

I don't but I have an FV43U and I can turn off the standby light in the osd settings on the monitor

[quartz sandal]

You can press the power button?

[mighty tide]

If you press it while it isn't plugged into the PC it just brings up an input menu, will check out OSD settings and IG just turn it off if I turn my PC off lol

No clue why they added a huge blinking standby light

[quartz sandal]

Wait so you can't turn off the monitor to get rid of standby?

[mighty tide]

I can unplug it but yeah, there's no turn off button if its in standby afaik lol

When I press the little button to bring up a menu it just shows different inputs

[small warren]

Oh you gotta bring up the osd when it's on not when the pc is off lol

[quartz sandal]

But there's no power button just an osd one?

[small warren]

Some screens do be like that, no way to turn it off off

[mighty tide]

Afaik

Didn't read the manual so maybe lol

[mighty tide]

Yeah figures. Annoying either way though

[small warren]

A little bit I mean, if yours is like mine? You can turn the light off instead

Then it's fine lol

[mighty tide]

Yeah then it's fine, I used the sidekick thingy and couldn't find it but I gotta check the actual OSD

[small warren]

I agree it do be annoying gigglebit osd is like that

Ye

[mighty tide]

gigglebit is so silly

i wonder if theres spelling errors in their osd as well

[small warren]

Haha I've never thought of that

Maybe

[mighty tide]

surely not

bios makes some sense ig, not a lot of people look at super specific settings that are under like 4 menus

[small warren]

Gigabyte does like, the google translate edition of pc gaming

[spark gust]

So, the G24F 2 is a week out on Amazon for me and I'm... Being impatient. The LG 24GN650 is on sale for $170 at Best Buy ($250 reg) seems very solid? Rtings 8.2. I have a 2070 super and r7 3700. Any input is appreciated.

[errant edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gmytt6/msi-optix-g2412-238-1920-x-1080-170-hz-monitor-g2412

Afaik that's a pretty good choice

[small warren]

another good one @spark gust ^^^

G241/242/2412 or G24F 2

both are really good

G24F as well (tho I'd really opt for the revision)

[spark gust]

I'll see if I can find those sooner/local as well. It's sounding like I should be patient as rhe LG isn't worth getting today lol.

[small warren]

it's 24gn650-b ye?

[spark gust]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-24-full-hd-gaming-monitor-with-freesync-premium/6451069.p?skuId=6451069

[small warren]

let's have a look..

[spark gust]

Looks like the G2412 is available tomorrow for $140 I can definitely wait a day for a $40 difference unless the link I posted above is a steal at that price.

[small warren]

I think the LG might be a bit better

tbh

But the G24F 2 is just, really good lolol

It'll be worth the week wait

[spark gust]

That noticeable of a difference even utilizing a 2000 series card?

[small warren]

yes

gigabyte has been on a roll with monitors lately

excellent panel choices, great colour and factory calibration

[spark gust]

Fine fine fine I'll wait haha. Appreciate the help. This Discord is incredible every time I visit.

[small warren]

np man

[winged meteor]

so Im looking to get a nice 2k monitor and came across these 2 options but wasnt sure which one to get. From my understanding the spectre screen isnt actually 2k and is UW HD. But would there be much of a difference between them other than the size and refresh rates?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TXM7K4T?ref_=cm_sw_r_apan_dp_WGNP09DDWZXTYC695345&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0862YHJ56?ref_=cm_sw_r_apan_dp_96R5BT76S4SSHJPQBTTJ&th=1

or would anyone recommend a better/different monitor?

[small warren]

sceptre is a pass

CQ27G2 iirc is very good but at 329 you can get an M27Q/M32Q and just be better off

[misty gyro]

Unless you really want ultrawide for something specific, it's just not as good as 16:9.

[hollow nymph]

HEY THATS MY MONITOR

[mighty tide]

Lol, I noticed something funny with my monitor

Whenever I change the speed of my box fan more than 2 settings it turns black for a second

They're plugged into the same power strip but it's just weird lol

[sonic vapor]

Guys, what's the cheapest way to run a 4k120hz signal for 40ft? The wire is going from my PC to a 4k120Hz TV across the room. The current solutions I've found have been purchasing a 40ft 4k120Hz HDMI cord, but they're >/= to $100. Any better or cheaper options? 'Not too knowledgeable about wires.

[small warren]

#peripherals-and-displays

[clear temple]

i like how simplier moniters gets with time

first : we had a calthode gun that shoots photons illuminating the screen ,
then : we get light filtered by crystals
and now : red and gren , and blue small leds that happen to be organic

[balmy plaza]

Difference between ips and va panel

[misty gyro]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/learn/ips-vs-va-vs-tn

For most people IPS is far superior

[balmy plaza]

Is va bad?

[misty gyro]

VA has better contrast than IPS but IPS has better everything else in general

[balmy plaza]

Does this solo every other monitor

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824011451

[misty gyro]

It's a 7/10
Usable but not particularly good

For that price class and 1440p I'd wait for the HP X27Q to go on sale for $210 again

Which is an 8.5/10

[balmy plaza]

Rate this one

https://www.costco.com/msi-27"-fhd-ips-nvidia-g-sync-gaming-monitor-optix-g273.product.100805677.html

[misty gyro]

8/10
1080p at 27 inches isn't ideal but overall it's great

[balmy plaza]

Oh shoot I thought it was 1440

Oh I choose the wrong one

[balmy plaza]

https://www.costco.com/msi-27”-class-wqhd-curved-gaming-monitor.product.4000147713.html

How about this one

[misty gyro]

Not bad for VA https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/msi/optix-mag271cqr

Generally all curved monitors under $1000 are going to be VA

[silent epoch]

hmmm

[balmy plaza]

How bout this

https://us.msi.com/Monitor/G274QRFW

[balmy plaza]

Difference between HP X27qc and HP X27q

[misty gyro]

Curved is VA, not quite as good overall

[balmy plaza]

What

[quartz sandal]

One with the c is curved and has a VA panels instead of an IPS one

[balmy plaza]

But the x27qc is like 200 and the x27q is like 300

[quartz sandal]

Ah it's off sale, it often goes on sale for 200-230$

[zinc mural]

is this a good monitor for its price and specs ? https://www.newegg.ca/black-asus-tuf-gaming-vg27aq-90lm0500-b013b0-27/p/N82E16824236987?Item=N82E16824236987

[supple osprey]

my preference but there’s an gigabyte ultra wide for 379.99$ with pretty similar specs if not better

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012046?item=24-012-046&Source=socialshare&cm_sp=referral_program-_-mobile-_-pdp-_-referral_link&ignorebbr=true

i think the monitor you sent has a better panel though

[zinc mural]

Thanks

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/lg-ultragear-27-1440p-wqhd-165hz-1ms-gtg-ips-led-freesync-gaming-monitor-27gp83b-b-only-at-best-buy/15445754

What about this one ?

It’s currently 200$ off for me

[supple osprey]

that’s pretty nice better deal i’d say

[zinc mural]

Nice

I think I’m gonna buy this one

This https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/asus-tuf-23-8-fhd-270hz-1ms-ips-led-freesync-gaming-monitor-vg249qm1a/16489410 or the LG monitor ?

[supple osprey]

lg the asus is only 1080

[zinc mural]

thx

and one last thing

is it really bad to play on 1440p monitor with a ps4?

im planning to buy a ps5 later on but for rn i play on a ps4

[errant flax]

Looked it up and personally I wouldn't recommended given that the PC equivalent of the PS4 Pro's gpu is a RTX 3050/RX6500XT

[zinc mural]

i have ps4 slim

[errant flax]

Yeah I wouldn't recommend it then. Lemme check what the PS5 equivalent is.

Can't seem to find a clear answer on the PS5's abillity to run 1440p.

From what I've read so far, it seems the PS5 is limited to 1440p@120hz whether or not you'll get that many frames in games I am not sure.

[balmy plaza]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-odyssey-27-ips-led-qhd-freesync-g-sync-compatible-gaming-monitor-with-hdr-display-port-hdmi-black/6471364.p?skuId=6471364

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0949KL83T?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

Which one better

[zinc mural]

Thx. But like how bad is it to play on 1440p with ps4? Like very bad to the point it’s unplayable or not ?

[balmy plaza]

So like which one better

Plz

[errant flax]

This is a complete guess since I haven't used a 3050 or 6500xt but I'd expect around 40fps however the good news is that if it's to high of a resolution you can set the monitor to 1080p.

[errant flax]

@balmy plaza, costs a bit more though this one is better.

[balmy plaza]

Ok thanks

[errant flax]

The only real difference between the two is that the more expensive one has HDR 400 vs the HDR 10 on the samsung one.

[balmy plaza]

The fox anime dude told me that the hp X27q gets to 200 often

Like how often

[errant flax]

From what I've noticed around here maybe 3-4 months it goes on sale for a week or so.

[balmy plaza]

Bruh

[errant flax]

Honestly it comes down to how you value your time and how valuable you consider the investment to be.

[balmy plaza]

U got any other monitor recommendations that is 1440p and around 200

[errant flax]

The M27Q is a solid monitor.

[balmy plaza]

To poor

That’s like 300

[errant flax]

Also I need to get back to work, if your still here in like 30m I will see if I can help out a bit.

If you wanna go budget, the Pixio monitors are honestly pretty good value wise.

[old arch]

hp x27q is sometimes $200ish, and as low as $170ish once in a while.

[tardy berry]

i just broke my monitor........ is there any decent ones under 150$?

[errant edge]

G24f, g241, g242 are my go to reccs

[balmy plaza]

Any other monitors to buy apart from the X27q

1440 p

Ips

[surreal quarry]

budget and any other desired specs? also I assume for gaming

[balmy plaza]

Gaming

Like around 165 -170 hz

[surreal quarry]

and the budget?

[balmy plaza]

Around 200 can be more

[surreal quarry]

id go with this https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/odyssey-g5-s27ag50

[balmy plaza]

That got to 250 before

[surreal quarry]

currently $280 on bestbuy

yeah is that fine?

[balmy plaza]

Can It be like lower

What I mean was like

230-200

[surreal quarry]

then i dont really have any recs there arnt really any great monitors with those specs for that budget, I would save up an extra $50

[balmy plaza]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824011451?item=N82E16824011451

Is this one good?

[surreal quarry]

it's ok, unless u really need a monitor now I would save up an extra $50

[balmy plaza]

Can you just call Hp and tell them to lower the x27q

[surreal quarry]

personally I would not buy it for myself

unfortunelty I am unable to do that

[quartz sandal]

Every couple weeks

[untold forge]

Is there any way possible to remotely change the volume of the speakers on an asus tuf gaming monitor? Or do you have to use the buttons. I usually use a headset but if I wanna watch a show on my Xbox in bed or something it’s a hassle to have to get up everytime i wanna change the volume.

I assume there isn’t but it doesn’t hurt to ask

[mighty tide]

Could use windows with a wireless mouse?

[silent epoch]

Yes.

[worn axle]

Anyone have an idea when m27q-xs come back in stock?

[silent epoch]

No idea. I'm waiting. That's what happens when a monitor is popular

[errant flax]

What does curved screens feel like on a 21:9 ratio screen?

I am considering buying a WQHD or WFHD monitor that can run 200hz or higher depending on the price.

[errant flax]

Mhmm gotcha.

[errant flax]

Are there any good IPS QHD or WQHD monitors with +144hz within $400? Preferably sub $300.

I am in MX so I'd be buying from amazon.com.mx. thanks in advance.

[misty gyro]

Not at that price for ultrawide nope

[errant flax]

Is QHD doable at least?

[silent epoch]

[misty gyro]

Yeah you can do a decent QHD 1440p panel. Availability is iffy in Mexico still.

[silent epoch]

i got you

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012043?

maybe its in Mexico. one sec

[errant flax]

What's the difference between QLED and IPS?

[silent epoch]

https://www.newegg.com/global/mx-en/p/N82E16824012043?Item=N82E16824012043&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

damn. its 461 dollars when converted

[errant flax]

Ooof.

[silent epoch]

maybe you could push for an extra 60 dollars?

[errant flax]

Also just to double check, would my 5700G + 3070 be able to handle QHD or even WQHD for a while until I upgrade to like a 4090?

[misty gyro]

Yeah just set it to medium if you have to. It'll do high/ultra usually.

[errant flax]

Gotcha.

[misty gyro]

https://www.amazon.com.mx/LG-27GN800-B-Ultragear-actualización-Compatible/dp/B08LLD2QXJ

[silent epoch]

the LEDS have a backlight, so it should be darker than ur average IPS

[errant flax]

Is there like a 200hz version if I am gonna spend nearly $500 on a monitor?

[errant flax]

Would this be pretty good then?

https://www.amazon.com.mx/Gigabyte-Monitor-Display-Response-Speakers/dp/B08JWCHR5N/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=WXi4U&content-id=amzn1.sym.aabd188a-cfbc-428f-a926-e942a957080f&pf_rd_p=aabd188a-cfbc-428f-a926-e942a957080f&pf_rd_r=79YHDB5YMN67Q2FR32D7&pd_rd_wg=ItZUb&pd_rd_r=0a509dd9-bf7e-4980-80a8-3736422c4149&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m&th=1

[silent epoch]

100 percent

[errant flax]

Gigabyte M27Q-SA it says it's using QLED.

Gotcha, is the price reasonable? $391

[silent epoch]

its not a QLED

[errant flax]

????

[silent epoch]

its IPS

still good

[errant flax]

What's the difference between the M27Q-SA and M27Q P-SA

[silent epoch]

the P is 165hz

while the other is 170hz

[errant flax]

odd, the 170hz is around $40 cheaper.

[silent epoch]

idk why lol

[errant flax]

Out of curiosity, are there any +200hz WQHD IPS or Oled monitors in existence within about $500?

[silent epoch]

oled, nope. WQHD....so far, no

[errant flax]

R.I.P

Does such monitor even exist?

minus the price restrictions.

[silent epoch]

wait..500 bucks.....

[errant flax]

?

[silent epoch]

sorry but 165hz is the highest you can get for under 500 in the US. In mexico it will be higher

144-165 is the limit

ur best bet for 200hz+ 1440p monitor is a 16:9

[misty gyro]

Not that most people can notice the difference between 165-ish and 240

[silent epoch]

yeah.

you would be fine with 165

[errant flax]

Does having a faster reaction speed mean I can notice the difference better?

Because I took a test a year ago that said my reaction time was about 200ms on average, and around 180 at best.

[misty gyro]

It's not as much a difference as you think

Total system latency at 165Hz is probably lower than your personal reaction time

[silent epoch]

mmhmm

[misty gyro]

Literally a 1ms difference according to rtings
Refresh Time between frames Minimum input lag
144Hz 6.94 ms 3.47 ms
165Hz 6.06 ms 3.03 ms
240Hz 4.17 ms 2.09 ms

[errant flax]

I see.

I guess I will go with 165/170hz for the time then.

[silent epoch]

pray for the day when MicroLED monitors come out. we will never never have to upgrade again. only 10 years away lol 😔

[errant flax]

are there any WQHD +160hz monitors within my price range or is the M27Q-SA likely it?

[errant flax]

?

[silent epoch]

dont worry about it ha

[errant flax]

I heard the term but what exactly are MicroLED monitors?

[silent epoch]

the true endgame to display tech

[misty gyro]

If OLED is Frieza's final form, MicroLED is Golden Frieza

[silent epoch]

imagine....Oled but with with brightness of LCDs and the refresh rate in the nanoseconds

with around 100k hours in longevity

and zero burn in

we'll see them in the 2030s for sure

[errant flax]

👀 really?!

[silent epoch]

for now at your budget, youll have to stick with IPS lol

yeah really

but we cant always be playing the waiting game. get what you can afford now

[misty gyro]

Yeah that's like saying "you can't do 8k 240Hz native on a 4090 so I'll wait for the 6090"

[errant flax]

xD.

[silent epoch]

waste of time

[errant flax]

Besides screen realistate is there any other benefit to Ultra Wides?

[silent epoch]

life is short

[errant flax]

Live in the moment agreed?

[silent epoch]

mmhhm

and always aiming for the best is vanity to

[smoky thicket]

nothing to lose when so much is already lost