gotta love it once jwk obsidian v2s and lagoons go in the western market
#peripherals-and-displays
neon quartzBOT
Ophiuchus#3530 has been warned
wanton burrow
i always forget s is now allowed smh mh
but yeah the gamer board is garbo in terms of ergonomics
jsut an hour of continous usage and it already hurts my hand pepela
hard stuff tbh. maybe a cheap viper mini or so then a redragon k552 will do the job
should fit the budget
inb4 chinese razer resellers out there costs $20 bucks for a viper mini and that other palm grip razer mice
queen sigil
@west hornet do you know about meizu dac freaking out with discord
west hornet
No not much, i havent used meizu myself
queen sigil
yeah idk what the problem is
it starts cutting out when I start streaming on discord
sounds fine when I screencapture it tho
calm cobalt
$200 headphones, clean sound, not a lot of bass
$100 dac & amp
-asking for a friend
hushed fjord
danm
wanton burrow
$200 headphones, clean sound, not a lot of bass
$100 dac & amp
-asking for a fr...
dunno if there's alot of stack combo for $100, but egghead lazada has some desktop dac & amps, some zen/ifi i forgot the name products and fiio bt dongs as well
maybe for $200 those hd560 eh? don't vouch on me pepela
wanton burrow
also, if you need cheap usb c dong, ve odessey hd, cx-pro, and avani dong works and is under $20
calm cobalt
is it worth than getting apple dongle?
wanton burrow
odessey being a warmer source, cx pro somehow brighter iirc, and avani is those xumee dong form amazon rebranded & resold here by ve
how much are those?
calm cobalt
apple dongle? no idea lol
but if ever i need dongle/get a new phone without headphone jack then i'll buy
calm cobalt
did hifiman fix their atrocious qc?
calm cobalt
If someone can find me mouse bigger then the corsair elite scmitar let me know my price hudject for a mouse is 100 i got massive hands like 5.4 inches wide
shadow bane
If someone can find me mouse bigger then the corsair elite scmitar let me know ...
I have no clue what size that mouse is but i use the redragon m602, pretty decent sized mouse. It is rather cheap though
calm cobalt
Big hands
shadow bane
This is 3.5in at best
shadow bane
My dad is 6'3 and like 280 and he uses the tiniest mouse I've ever seen, idk how he does it
I tried giving him my wireless like 4inch but he wouldn't use it
calm cobalt
He prob has a very weird claw grip style
I currently got my eyes on the corsair scmitar its like 100 dollars on the dot but its wide enough I THINK
Welp time for mw to try to sleep
shadow bane
yeah he does i think, still hurts me
im 5'9 and like 140lb and i cant even use a mouse that small
glad yarrow
I need a 4.3 inch wide mouse at least
trackball mouse moment
look at a g502
pretty big mouse
calm cobalt
not big enough
glad yarrow
not big enough
what are you using rn?
glad yarrow
and what are you basing the fact that you need a mouse thats 4 inches wide?
calm cobalt
i measured my hand
glad yarrow
i measured my hand
but a mouse is rounded...
your hand isnt gonna lie completely flat on it
have you accounted for that?
calm cobalt
no
calm cobalt
Hey, reinstalled Razer Synapse and still not fixed. Can't find a working ObinsKit sofware download on the Internet though
(for my keyboard)
By the way, when my m and kb disconnect i get a notification USB device not recognized
wanton burrow
your hand isnt gonna lie completely flat on it
what
i mean, yeah
but as far as i know ppl measure hands to see which mice fits them
wanton burrow
i measured my hand
how did you do it?
glad yarrow
but as far as i know ppl measure hands to see which mice fits them
lemme send pics
or a video
wanton burrow
not a mice guy to recommend mice but iirc they measure hand proportions for mice?
spark lava
You just have long fingers
At least you don’t bear claw grip it.
Some people grip a mouse like this.
glad yarrow
You just have long fingers
Fair
glad yarrow
don't they measure it with a flat hand?
thats the point. its a flawed system
glad yarrow
mouse isnt flat
glad yarrow
look this
wanton burrow
i mean they just measure it with a flat ruler to realistically see the size/proportions of the person's hand
tape measure also isn't flat, but a curved surface like you hands could still have its length measured in a flat surface
it's just a system used to actually know proper hand size
camera ain't gonna do it
don't rly think it's a flawed system, inb4 it's jsut used to give an actual idea of how big your hand is with proper measurement
just a rough, but realistic idea, not absolute
inb4 i could check a length of a thing even when it's bent 
esp if it's something i can flatten with ease
tight pulsar
daring zenith
I love that template
wanton burrow
i like it when beginners ask of a keyboard of a specific mount and not have knowledge on what the mount does in comparison to others lol
rigid valve
“Gasket mount gasket mount gasket mount”
rigid valve
What’s your budget
“$100”
tight pulsar
also lol
prime notch
sly warren
That's a bit of a low price range for a chair.
https://www.staples.com/Staples-Hyken-Technical-Mesh-Task-Chair-Black/product_990119 This is one of the best cheap chairs out there. And it's 179.99
And, as far as I know (I'm not an ergonomics specialist or anything) leg rests are bad for your posture.
And even knowing that, if you want a leg rest, you're gonna be looking at chairs in the 300 to 500+ range
sly warren
Oh, actually $250 on up is where you can get a leg rest.
That's the cheapest one with a Leg rest I found.
rigid valve
if you want a chair with a leg rest i would just get a normal chair and then go buy a cheap stool to put in front of your chair
sly warren
Low key, that looks super low qulity.
glad yarrow
I dont check peripherals too often because im bad at em tbh
glad yarrow
don't rly think it's a flawed system, inb4 it's jsut used to give an actual idea...
getting a mouse exactly the size of ur palm seems wrong to me is what I meant
glad yarrow
just a rough, but realistic idea, not absolute
Exactly what I wanted to say
I agree with that
wanton burrow
So, the measured their palm, and told ppl thaht their hand is that?
Damn sir 5.4in if thatvs hand width id huge
Unless that's length lol
glad yarrow
yeah his hand was 4.3 inches or someting and told people that he needed a mouse thats 4.3 inches as well. At least thats what I got from talking to him
glad yarrow
Anyways tiem to sleep
gn
sly warren
yeah his hand was 4.3 inches or someting and told people that he needed a mouse ...
Yeah... that's not how mice work.
glad yarrow
Yeah... that's not how mice work.
thats what I was saying
mouse has to be a little smaller than ur hand
glad yarrow
owo
sly warren
RIP your aim.
glad yarrow
RIP your aim.
sly warren
Having a mouse larger than your hand makes it harder to aim.
It's harder to grip an object larger than your hand.
I'm pretty sure Rocket Jump Ninja has a fair bit of scientific data on the whole mouse size vs grip thing.
Well, vs aim
zenith kraken
im kinda dumb, but will a thunderbolt 2 port work w a thunderbolt one port?
sly warren
No.
Thunderbolt 2 and Thunderbolt 1 use different connectors.
Hell, IDK if Thunderbolt 1 even exists anymore.
daring zenith
Different people have different hand sizes and all
zenith kraken
ty
daring zenith
But it's also just different people aim a bit differently
zenith kraken
i have a 14 macbook, which one does that have?
glad yarrow
Having a mouse larger than your hand makes it harder to aim.
I can assure you that lighter smaller mice make my aim go to garbage
zenith kraken
2014
sly warren
I can assure you that lighter smaller mice make my aim go to garbage
Have you tried it for an extended period of time? Say, multiple months?
daring zenith
To be fair, there are generalizations that can be useful, with exceptions.
sly warren
I went from a G502, to a smaller and lighter mouse, and at first my aim was garbage, but then I started improving way beyond my aim with my G502
daring zenith
With my experience, right about a year with both mice, I flick worse on a lighter and smaller mouse.
(mow and gpw)
glad yarrow
Have you tried it for an extended period of time? Say, multiple months?
I used a lighter smaller mouse for a year. Switched to a larger heavier mouse and aim is a TON better
daring zenith
Exceptions exist
glad yarrow
It was a medium sized mouse
sly warren
E.x I went to small with my Orochi V2 and my aim got worse than my Model O
zenith kraken
so doeas a 2014 macbook have tb2?
sly warren
I have no clue, Google exists.
I think it probably has TB2, if it doesn't have USB-C, it's likely TB2.
I know my Fiancee's old 2013 MBAir had a TB2 port.
And I don't think they transitioned to USB-C until... 2018?
zenith kraken
ok ty
glad yarrow
I just have a partially severed nerve going to my wrist that makes my hand way too shaky making my aim shaky with lighter objects
floral lake
see that's why you can't say one mouse fits all
everyone is different
my aim is trash with light mice too, even tho i don't suffer from anything rawr has
i want heft to it so i can precisely aim
digital ether
best EQ settings for g935
debateable this this is rly good
atomic oyster
i got the g305
it's pretty chill
some people say it's got a heavy back but you can get an AAA adapator and fix that, or just stuff it with foil on the connection lol
wanton burrow
me want g305
and mod it once chinese omrons do the trolling
pepela $2 worth of 40pcs box
wanton burrow
by modding i mean soldering new rotary encoder (if that's what you call the encoder of the scroll wheel) and new microswitches :yep:
atomic oyster
i have no idea what any of that means
seems cool
i just use it because it's the basic gaming mouse everyone gets
that's crazy
i never knew
merry sundial
by modding i mean soldering new rotary encoder (if that's what you call the enco...
Very cool - should share some pics of the project if you have them.
I swapped out the switches on my 2013 deathadder a few years ago with some omrons off amazon to fix the double clicking, felt great.
daring zenith
I would like to swap out switches on my gpw but need to learn to solder one day
merry sundial
Highly recommend this tutorial series/channel in general https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sb21qbpEQ
I use this, works well enough, but there's definitely nicer stuff out there https://www.amazon.com/KSGER-Temperature-Controller-Electronic-Equipments/dp/B07PYFSCJ9
I recommend kester 44 solder + a flux pen
rigid valve
Flux is important
daring zenith
I can barely light a Bunsen burner so I'm probably not going to trust myself with soldering for a while but good to keep in mind
little crater
I use a ts100 and a hakko 808 😩
wraith roost
@queen sigil come here so you can insult my poor decision making
@queen sigil I just ordered an 1800 kit.
But then I saw this…
😬
So I should probably order one right?!
wraith roost
DO IT NOW
I don’t even think I have $250 available in an account right now lmao
How many pay in 4 does affirm let you do? More than 1?
gritty marlin
nvm that was just the bot deleting it
now I can't even get the user id
banning people on mobile is so hard
rigid valve
lmao
wraith roost
Literally sitting at my computer on my phone
elder current
what keyboard is a little less quite then chery mx red switches
sly warren
What do you mean?
sly warren
Literally sitting at my computer on my phone
I HATE when people do that. It's so stupid.
Just use your MF'ing computer
wraith roost
Just use your MF'ing computer
No, I like my phone
Computer a lot of work
I have to use all my fingers
sly warren
Then just sell it.
wraith roost
And move a mouse
sly warren
Either use your computer, or go sit somewhere else where you aren't sitting at a device where you can do the EXACT SAME THINGS except with more power.
bleak ember
elder current
@sly warren what i mean is what switches sound simillar to the chery mx red ones but are a little less quite
sly warren
<@!100710174137798656> what i mean is what switches sound simillar to the chery...
I mean, most Linear switches all sound fairly the same.
For the most part Sound in a Mechanical switch is based on whether it's Clicky or not.
Clicky switches are louder than basically every other switch due to how they are built.
If you just want pure loudness, go for Cherry MX Greens or Buckling Spring switches.
But, if you want Linear but Louder, there's not much you can really do about that.
As far as I know.
Someone else might have more experience with this than I do, and may chime in.
elder current
ok
sly warren
Like, what do you actually want out of your typing experience?
Smoothness? A Nice thocky sound? A Tactile feel?
elder current
Thocky sound
sly warren
Boba U4T then
https://ringerkeys.com/products/gazzew-boba-u4t-thocky-tactile-switches 65 cents per switch.
elder current
ok thank you
sly warren
And, unless you have a hotswap board, you will need to desolder the switches from your current board to add these to your current board.
Nobody makes a board from the factory with these switches.
So, if you need a keyboard to pair with these, I can highly recommend a Keychron
daring zenith
keychron fun
sly warren
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-hot-swappable-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39367324729433 Here's personally the board i'd buy if I was buying a Keychron.
elder current
ok
sly warren
I'm a big fan of the 75% layout
It has basically every key you need, but in a more compact form factor compared to a Tenkeyless layout.
daring zenith
I like tkl
I like the space you get for the arrow keys and the rest of the cluster
I'm weird like that
rigid valve
<@!100710174137798656> what i mean is what switches sound simillar to the chery...
You could try messing with your board
Or your switches
Heavier springs could make your switches louder
I haven’t really experimented with them a whole ton
tight pulsar
tkl far superior to 75
daring zenith
Thank you nachos for embracing the cause
sly warren
How is TKL superior? It takes up more space
daring zenith
It's nice
Could make a case for more ergo for using arrow keys
Could make a case for extra keys
It also just doesn't look cramped
Easier to learn positions and get used to it imo
Like del is in such a nice and easy place to press
So is prtscrn
rigid valve
How is TKL superior? It takes up more space
TKL as a layout is more ortholinear from the way the keys are set up, which makes designing them much easier. It allows the layout to be more aesthetically pleasing and has the added benefit of those navigation keys should you be one of the weirdos who uses them
It has the arrow keys in a more normal position with helps with muscle memory during transition periods from Full-size
And it’s easier to make into an Ortho layout should you so choose
sly warren
Yeah, but Space. TKL too big.
rigid valve
Naw it ain’t much bigger than Exploded 75
sly warren
75% uses less space, has 90% of the keys of TKL
rigid valve
It uses barely less space imma be real
tight pulsar
75 is only 2-3 rows shorter
and it usually loses 6ish keys and looks really stupid
and if we're talking about customs tkl has much better compat, jane v2/ce plates and hiney pcb being used for the vast majority of tkls so easy to try different setups
queen sigil
skip trace is always right
rigid valve
and it usually loses 6ish keys and looks really stupid
this
queen sigil
if skiptrace has a reason it means ur opinion is wrong
tight pulsar
also tkl has way cooler history 75 is just some lame layout people threw together a few years ago
tight pulsar
fun tkl history fact
daring zenith
Oo fun
elder current
I got a quick question my old 60% mechanical keyboard the space bar would act like someone is holding it down when no one is pressing it it keeps sticking almost i took the key cap off and nothing happened
its a stoga keyboard
i was just asking before i buy another one to see if its an easy fix
wanton burrow
then there's Volcano660 and the rising of the currently most overused form factor & mounting style
wanton burrow
I got a quick question my old 60% mechanical keyboard the space bar would act li...
so a stuck stab?
wanton burrow
perhaps
elder current
its almost like its stuck
i plug it in and it keeps acting like someone is spamming the space bar
wanton burrow
is it literally getting spammed or is just the seacebar getting stucked?
elder current
its getting spamed i take the key cap off and put it back on it works for a second then back to it being spammed
wanton burrow
sounds like some shorted pcb i guess
elder current
what does that mean
sly warren
The PCB is shorted somewhere electrically
elder current
so i would have to email there support
sly warren
No?
Also, I really doubt you'd get support from that company.
Just disassemble the keyboard and see if there's any contacts bridged.
rigid valve
If the stab is stuck then you better know how to desolder
If it’s a short then you’re screwed
wanton burrow
what
looks like the board might be using platemounted stabs
how come they need to desolder if it's just some platemount stab
wraith roost
Which is the better switch? 🤔
elder current
@wanton burrow im just going to take it apart and see if theres anything i can reconnect if it is disconnected
wanton burrow
Which is the better switch? 🤔
dunno aobut outemu's silent tactile tho
but jwick yellow is some nice budget jwk switch
perhaps consider ktts
neon quartzBOT
Ophiuchus#3530 has been warned
elder current
i think something is disconected
on the keyboard
i have it halfway taken apart already
wanton burrow
wanton burrow
i think something is disconected
which one
elder current
the spacebar
elder current
nvm il figure it out my sel
wanton burrow
no like, could you be alil mroe specific
wraith roost
perhaps consider ktts
I’m ordering the candy bar compete kit and have to choose one of those two switches
I may not end up using them
wraith roost
But if I’m getting 70 of them with the kit, I’d rather get the better of the two
wanton burrow
maybe jwick is the way i guess
wanton burrow
ok then
wanton burrow
your choice
wanton burrow
jwk is almost the same across its lineups of pc top nylon bot ones
sturdy sinew
asking for friend, are dt 770 pro's still good for its price range for closed back headphones?
sly warren
Not really.
AKG K371's are tuned closer to something most people will actually enjoy listening to.
sturdy sinew
my buddy has a budget for 300 and under the only specification that he has is, closed back
and he listens to edm
daring zenith
k371 and zen dac might be good
remote zodiac
ok, a question for you keyboard wizzards: what is the best full size mechanical keyboard that is not "GAMER" style, but still has RGB?
remote zodiac
gimme a range. im just looking for a "professional" looking mechanical keybard that has RGB
digital ether
whats the best headphones for under $300 aud
remote zodiac
headphones or headsets?
split nimbus
gimme a range. im just looking for a "professional" looking mechanical keybard t...
Starting around 80, could go well above 1000
Theoretically could go lower, maybe down to 70
Problem is full size keyboards in to 70-90 range tend to be lower quality and kinda tacky looking
There is this model, but it's oos 😦
https://www.amazon.com/Swappable-RGB-Backlight-Brown-Switch/dp/B08CNB11ZL
remote zodiac
There _is_ this model, but it's oos 😦
https://www.amazon.com/Swappable-RGB-Back...
that looks great. thanks.
remote zodiac
Starting around 80, could go well above 1000
right, ok, lets set a ceiling at $110?
split nimbus
$110 is definitely on the lower side
One thing you might consider is getting a good mechanical keyboard that you don't like the looks of and buying a set of replacement keycaps to change the looks
remote zodiac
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k1-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=31238122242137
this looks even better
split nimbus
That's not a full size keyboard though
split nimbus
Ah
digital ether
headphones or headsets?
headset
should fit big head and be comfy
split nimbus
Forgot the K1 had that
remote zodiac
One thing you might consider is getting a good mechanical keyboard that you don'...
its not so much the caps as the chassis that im looking at. I currently have a corsair K65, and its great, but its got that "gamer" look (creases and extra bits)
remote zodiac
headset
should fit big head and be comfy
At that price, you have HUGE selection. Concerning the size issue, I'm in the same boat. I literally had to go and test out headsets
wanton burrow
ok, a question for you keyboard wizzards: what is the best full size mechanical ...
iqunix f96 perhaps
remote zodiac
rememeber 300 AUD
yea dude, I went and looked at the MWAVE site, you got LOADS of options
wanton burrow
or forget the rgb part and get leopold fc980m
split nimbus
its not so much the caps as the chassis that im looking at. I currently have a c...
Ah, okay
If you can find a full size keychron board in stock that'll probably be the best option
They're decent quality at a more entry level price
remote zodiac
or forget the rgb part and get leopold fc980m
lel. wish I could, but i am all about that RGB
split nimbus
One thing to note about the keychron K1 that you linked is it uses a non-standard switch
elder current
ophi did you see the pic i posted last nigth
the keyboard mother board shorted out and almost caught fire
well it did a little
split nimbus
not an issue as long as you don't plan on modifying it, but if you want to replace the keycaps it could be an issue
remote zodiac
not an issue as long as you don't plan on modifying it, but if you want to repla...
understood
wanton burrow
ophi did you see the pic i posted last nigth
yeah but at that point i am of no help
elder current
yea i already threw it out
wanton burrow
what
elder current
i was shocked that it shorted out but im wondering how was it still working except for the spcae bar
wanton burrow
could u even give it back to them or bothering if they'll actually gonna grant rma
elder current
nah when i saw the back of the case im not trusting that brand anymore but what is rma
wanton burrow
return merchandise authorization
elder current
ya no i already have it all taken apart
wanton burrow
oh well
daring zenith
@remote zodiac as a side note, k1 is low profile, but keychron also has a normal mostly full size keeb that is the k4
remote zodiac
thanks. thats very intruiging too
daring zenith
I have a K8 because I like tkl
remote zodiac
I have a K8 because I like tkl
I need full 104 cos I cant stand using the top row numbers when doing calculations 😆
rigid valve
K4 has the numpad
remote zodiac
thats way out of my league
daring zenith
Moding is surprisingly easy btw
rigid valve
It just doesn’t have the usual 9 navigation keys that you find above the arrows
daring zenith
Putting in foam can literally be cutting out a piece of the foam that it came packaged with, unscrewing the case open, stuffing it in, and screwing the case back together
tight pulsar
I need full 104 cos I cant stand using the top row numbers when doing calculatio...
seperate numpad ftw
daring zenith
@calm cobalt so, 200usd budget, any form factor keyboard?
Do you know what switches you want
Keep in mind you can get wrist rest separate from the keeb
And do you know if you like hard or soft wrist rest
Purple switches huh
@calm cobalt do you like the sound or the feel
There's tactile and there's clicky, different categories of switches
Then grab something like a Keychron k8 hotswap and swap in outemu Phoenix switches
And for wrist rest you can do smth from Amazon or if you want glorious has a fun wrist rest
Ye, I have one
atomic oyster
i like to click and clank and sometimes thocc
lyric rivet
looking for a decent gaming headset w a built-in mic. can anyone name one?
atomic oyster
I don't know any, but there's audio people in here - I use a cheap setup
west hornet
Pc37x is popular mid range headset
lyric rivet
thanks!
brave heron
ummm hi everyone
i want some advice for a new heaset
That ranges from 100-150 Dollars
daring zenith
i want some advice for a new heaset
Need mic or no
brave heron
Need mic or no
its a must
daring zenith
Two options
Easy option of pc37x, maybe get an apple dongle or Meizu dongle for a dac
Fun option of ksc75x with an apple dongle or Meizu dongle
brave heron
am thinking of either a razer or a steelseries headset
brave heron
Easy option of pc37x, maybe get an apple dongle or Meizu dongle for a dac
PC37X is a not available option for me as its not available in india
daring zenith
Drop might still ship to you
brave heron
Gonna sound like crap
i want to use it with a PS4 and a mac
brave heron
Drop might still ship to you
Ohhh then lemme try
west hornet
If not available cloud ii i suppose
proud elk
So idk if this where i can ask but i have some sony wf100xm3 and now since i got a new s21 i will get some free galaxy buds pro are them an upgrade or should i stick to the xm3 or mby sell both and try to pick up xm4?
hollow flower
Personally I prefer the wf100xm3s
A lot better noise isolation than the Galaxy Bud Pros
But the best advice would be to try both out and pick whichever one you like better
sly warren
So idk if this where i can ask but i have some sony wf100xm3 and now since i got...
The Galaxy Buds Pro will be better sound quality overall due to it supporting the Samsung Scalable Codec your S21 can output. I don't know if the Samsung phones support LDAC as a Bluetooth Codec, but that's what the XM3's and XM4's support.
I have no clue about the ANC capabilities of either as, If I want ANC, I just put in my Etymotic ER2SE's and have -40dba of passive isolation that kicks the butt of any ANC.
wraith roost
Can anyone tell me why I’d buy the candy bar from tkc when I could get this this 40% for half the price?
tight pulsar
isn't candybar much bigger
wraith roost
Yea I forgot candy bar has numpad
sharp kindle
candybar is also traditional stagger while planck is ortho
rigid valve
Idk why they made the candybar row stagger if real candybars areanged in an ortho fashion
little crater
Can anyone tell me why I’d buy the candy bar from tkc when I could get this this...
this looks mostly useless lol
rigid valve
this looks mostly useless lol
Naw
steep pelican
still just wating for another budget board to come out
little crater
tries to type a number
rigid valve
Sounds like someone who can’t use layers
rigid valve
Again
rigid valve
You can use just layers
wraith roost
Imagine being inconviencex by pressing one more key
rigid valve
Yes it takes like maybe 2 hours to learn
But after that
You save so. much. space
Not saying I’m a fan of 40% cuz I’m not
But it makes sense
split nimbus
nav cluster looks annoying
Do you use the nav cluster?
little crater
the arrow keys? who doesnt
split nimbus
Oh, that
little crater
couldnt imagine using the mouse for everything
i use delete home and end constantly though
split nimbus
awsd are very nice arrow keys
Consider this though, would you rather press two keys to do something or swing your hand over, press a key, and swing it back
steep pelican
anyone have a recommendation for a cheap capture card
little crater
Consider this though, would you rather press two keys to do something or swing y...
i can use my right pinky
split nimbus
Still would have to move your hand somewhat
No way you can reach that far from home row
steep pelican
imagine not having chonker hands
split nimbus
Personally I have a 60% with arrow keys and delete. Home, end, page up, and page down are on the arrow keys
rigid valve
imagine not having chonker hands
Facts
rigid valve
Personally I have a 60% with arrow keys and delete. Home, end, page up, and page...
Isn’t that 65
little crater
Personally I have a 60% with arrow keys and delete. Home, end, page up, and page...
my plan for my next keyboard is to do this, actually
rigid valve
60% with arrow keys is 64-key but that doesn’t have any nav keys
rigid valve
65 is like
split nimbus
Isn’t that 65
No
rigid valve
The most functional layout
little crater
yes
rigid valve
For most people
rigid valve
No
Oh I misread lmao
You have those nav keys mapped to the arrow keys on a separate layer?
split nimbus
Yes
rigid valve
Oh yeah mb mb
split nimbus
Like so
But with different keys mapped around
I also have fn+tab mapped to the the gnu/linux copypasta
sharp kindle
Idk why they made the candybar row stagger if real candybars areanged in an orth...
probably cause tkc appeals more to beginners in the hobby and ortho is scary
split nimbus
Bets part is it replaces linux with ctrl+v
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as delete key, is in fact, GNU/delete key, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus delete key. delete key is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "delete key", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a delete key, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. delete key is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. delete key is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with delete key added, or GNU/delete key. All the so-called "delete key" distributions are really distributions of GNU/delete key.
little crater
also another thing to consider is the layout of every other keyboard. maybe not important for any of yall, but i would like the keyboard I use and the plethora of keyboards out in the wild to be somewhat similar.
simply because of my job
tight pulsar
can y'all tell what keys i'm missing
queen sigil
can y'all tell what keys i'm missing
ur missing that indian enter key
daring zenith
escape
timber ridge
can y'all tell what keys i'm missing
show a pic of the bottom of it
timber ridge
i tried searching for carmen and nothing came up
local thing im p sure
daring zenith
It was all ohio
timber ridge
lmao
spark lava
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as delete key...
I wish I could find the video where Anthony from LTT said it on video lmfao. I can’t find it atm. 😦
finite schooner
Anybody know any good speakers for pc? Since my monitor doesn’t have speakers
Like good quality and worth the price
rigid valve
Uh
subtle pewter
Hey guys, any body know whic keychron is the one with the wireless capability, full RGB, and full, not squished layout?
I always forget
I have plans to buy one
subtle pewter
@rigid valve lemmie check, thanks
rigid valve
👍
subtle pewter
@rigid valvehmmmm... That's not it. That's not fullayout
subtle pewter
rigid valve
Holy crap
rigid valve
It’s your lucky day
Wait
@subtle pewter
Keychron JUST came out with a new board
Full-size wireless real mechanical
subtle pewter
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k10-wireless-mechanical-keyboard
THATS HOT
Yooooo
How much is it?
subtle pewter
I wanna get aluminum because of the aesthetic honestly. $10 isn't too much more
That keyboard is hot as hell
sly warren
I wanna get aluminum because of the aesthetic honestly. $10 isn't too much more
It's literally a scam.
sly warren
It doesn't add anything except little aluminum plates on the sides of the plastic.
rigid valve
^
subtle pewter
Oh, it's just on the side? It's not aluminum on the top?
rigid valve
It’s like barely any
subtle pewter
Alright then, no aluminum theb
*then
Damn... Too bad it's not available
I would get one right now if it was
rigid valve
Wireless full-size
You could always get a royal Kludge
Quality obv worse
But always in stock
rigid valve
Expensive tho
Yeah
Some of the best wireless I’ve ever seen though
Costar stabs stinky
But if you’re not into enthusiast stuff
Iquinix is up there
sly warren
Well, Costars are just weird in general.
I also am still debating on which switches to get to replace the Gat Reds I have in it now.
I kinda want a Tactile switch.
finite schooner
Is that a good keyboard?
subtle pewter
I wanna get wireless full size with back light and hot swap. Are there any other brands than keychron that offer that?
subtle pewter
Depends on how much it is and how many boxes it checks honestly
rigid valve
Ok
subtle pewter
I'm willing to look at all options within reason
rigid valve
Do you have like a general budget
Because for keeb enthusiasts there is no reason
subtle pewter
Like, max is $150 I would say. My mom said she would help me pay for it 50/50, but I told her it was like $75-100, but I have the money to go to like $150 without her help, so I would say $150 is the upper limit
subtle pewter
Damn, ok then
rigid valve
Iquinix doesn’t make full-size I just checked
rigid valve
There’s the K1 I think
It’s low-profile mech
So not “true mech”
But still Keychron quality
Not always
It has both TKL and full-size option
Yes
subtle pewter
Oh, does it not have swappable switches?
rigid valve
I don’t think so since it’s low-profile and that hasn’t really hit the market yet
subtle pewter
Damn, ok. I guess I will just have to wait for the k10 then
Damn that sucks
I am not looking for squished layout. They are hell for keycaps
subtle pewter
The k10 is the one for me, I just have no idea how long I will have to wait :/
floral lake
oh
subtle pewter
I guess wireless isn't a must but it's a very high want
floral lake
wireless seems like a nice plus
rigid valve
It is
subtle pewter
I am not going to, the issue is that I do not really have any easy way to wire a keyboard to my PC without a USB extension because of how far they are
rigid valve
Personally not a fan but I can see why you would want it
subtle pewter
Oh waiittttt
floral lake
tbh squished layout isn't too bad
subtle pewter
Keychron uses bluetooth, doesn't it?
floral lake
i like how squished the keys my dad's old asus laptop was
it's so easy to just glide my fingers thru to the key
subtle pewter
Ok, if it's BT then nevermind
I don't want that latency
I remember the connection on my uncle's keychron was terrible
It's not lightspeed, so nevermind
I want effectively 0 latency, and light speed wireless is even faster than wired, but BT absolutely is not
Ok then, I'll go wired then
Ok, and how much is C2?
Ooooo, only $70
Ok, lemmie look into it deeper
Yup, gonna get the RGB C2
Thanks!
(I need backlight because I am a scrub that types while looking occasionally)
I wanna eventually get some ocean blues in my keyboard. I forgot which switches I was looking at really, so I need to look back into them
Gonna get the gateron browns for now
What do you mean?
I'm not sure what you mean 😅
Ok, I'll save that for some other time. I will worry about it when I get there 😅
ok, just ordered the Gateron brown RGB C2
Imagine your keyboard making a sound when you press the caps down... Couldn't be me on this POS keyboard I have right now
yeah, but even a laptop keyboard sounds better than the keyboard I have lol
This keyboard is trash, and its been trashed. It was bad to start, and I have typed it to hell and back
anything would be an upgrade lol
digital ether
whats the best ketboard for customisability, rgb, typing, sound and hasa few gimmicks
sly warren
Uhh... You don't really buy a keyboard for the sound...
As for customizability, I'd probably buy an Iqunix board. They are a tad expensive (Around the 160 to 200 range) but they are versatile and have hotswap switch sockets, so you can replace the switches with whatever you want.
You buy the Switches for the sound, not the whole board itself.
digital ether
i know
bu tidk much about the switches
thrs like mx cherry blues reds and browns and razer switches
and steelseries omnipoint
and gateron switches
ionic fractal
This^^^
digital ether
is the everest max good? its hotswappable and has a display
i might get pudding keycaps too
what stwitches
does yelllow switch exist
sly warren
is the everest max good? its hotswappable and has a display
It's... A thing. I wouldn't buy it.
sly warren
For the price of a fully kitted Everest Max, you could buy 2 Iqunix boards.
Or almost 3 GMMKs
daring zenith
You buy the Switches for the sound, not the whole board itself.
Everything contributes to sound, but matters less in non-custom boards
Not like gmmk is going to give you a carbon fiber plate
And also, probably like 6 keychron c2s
digital ether
the iqunix keyboard looks like a school keyboard
daring zenith
Keychron keychron keychron time
digital ether
Have you seen a school keyboard?
yes they are grey or black
sly warren
Uhh...
Well, what I meant was...
This is what most school generic keyboards look like.
None of these boards look like that.
digital ether
ill stick with the apex pro
neon quartzBOT
Clem#2897 has been warned
sly warren
Any board from a "Gamer" company marketing their board for "Gamers" is overpricing a garbage board.
rigid valve
Rephrase that for ya
Iquinix is expensive and there’s a lot of liability involved
Especially with kids these days
sly warren
Liability?
I will admit, an Iqunix board IS expensive.
But, that's why PayPal Pay in 4 exists, so you can stretch that out over 4 paychecks
rigid valve
Still money
daring zenith
Because holy fudge Keychrons are always out of stock.
Just sometimes, but for example, k8 hotswap, even with rgb, is in stock from keychron directly
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k8-tenkeyless-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32018252955737
rigid valve
Keychron best option IMO
Good build for the price, easy modding, and well, less price
daring zenith
And no I don't think I can get rid of embed because mobile bad
rigid valve
And no I don't think I can get rid of embed because mobile bad
Try putting <> around the link
digital ether
apex pro
i make too many typos and this rly helps
its my 1st mechanical keyboard and helps prevent typo
rigid valve
I mean if you like it then use it
sly warren
No keyboard helps prevent typos...
rigid valve
Ion see an issue
rigid valve
No keyboard helps prevent typos...
Welllllll
sly warren
No.
rigid valve
Not necessarily
sly warren
Keyboards don't come with autocorrect.
rigid valve
Heavier springs are much more difficult to actuate, gives you a margin of error
sly warren
Or predictive typing.
digital ether
No keyboard helps prevent typos...
omnipoint switches
they change actuation and when i press from side it doesnt register
sly warren
That doesn't prevent typos...
And, they don't change dynamically.
You set an actuation point.
daring zenith
It can help with typos, but not prevent typos
digital ether
true
rigid valve
Steelseries omnipoints are honestly somewhat interesting
daring zenith
Light actuation switches are easier to accidentally press
They are a bit interesting
But you can't really set a place to get tactile feedback with any switches yet afaik
You'll have to just replace the leaf every time
digital ether
But you can't really set a place to get tactile feedback with any switches yet a...
i can press key on keyboard and get tactile feedback on mouse
sly warren
That's not tactile feedback...
digital ether
mouse can vibrat
digital ether
its nice
sly warren
That thing must weigh like, 200g
sly warren
If it has a Vibration Motor in it, plus the circuitry for an OLED display?
That thing has to weigh a ton
digital ether
That thing must weigh like, 200g
128
digital ether
compared to g502 not rlty
sly warren
The G502 is an outlier.
Wait...
That is HEAVIER than a G502
The G502 Hero only weighs 121g
And the Lightspeed (The Wireless One) Weighs 114g
glad yarrow
That's overweight AF
Eh I have a 108g mouse and wish it was a lot heavier
sly warren
Then just add weights inside the shell.
sly warren
You open the shell and hot-glue them wherever you can.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Or just buy a G502
It's basically the direct upgrade to the G402
glad yarrow
point being heavier mouses are better for some people
spark lava
Heavier mice can be nice depending on what you’re using it for.
glad yarrow
light mouse isnt a clear winner for everyone
and you should really stop treating it as such
sly warren
I mean, if a heavier mouse is for you, then you are an outlier in the research that has been done.
The extra weight adds momentum.
glad yarrow
what research
sly warren
Which is harder for your hand to stop
leading to over-aiming your target.
And missing more often.
glad yarrow
Its something you can account for very easily
sly warren
If your mouse isn't excessively heavy.
sly warren
Anything over 100g is, very much excessively heavy for most people to account for. I found myself missing a lot of flicks with my G502 and Rival 310. Moved to a Viper, and then a Model O and my flicks are way more consistient.
glad yarrow
Anything over 100g is, very much excessively heavy for most people to account fo...
skill issue
rigid valve
And I agree on heavier mice
If you’re feeling sorta oaflike and just scrolling or something then weight can be nice
But for gaming I prefer lighter
However
P r e f e r e n c e
sly warren
I hate preference TBH.
sly warren
Preferences are dumb. Objectivity is supreme.
rigid valve
I mean
He follows the book recommendation for everything regardless of whether or not it’s actually what the consumer cares about
👍
ivory fable
Anything over 100g is, very much excessively heavy for most people to account fo...
All preference boi
ivory fable
I hate preference TBH.
glad yarrow
Pato use ur rank and nuke skip
tight pulsar
i hate this channel
split nimbus
Preferences are dumb. Objectivity is supreme.
What is there objective about mouse weight?
shadow bane
i hate this channel
You'r
finite schooner
What’s better for gaming wired or wireless?
And any suggestions for a good gaming mouse
sly warren
Mice are a very personal thing due to hand shape. As for weight, try to go as light as you can, unless it detracts from your comfort in terms of grip and shape.
https://www.rocketjumpninja.com/mouse-search This website can help you pick a good mouse for your hand size and grip style.
digital ether
a
ivory fable
What is there objective about mouse weight?
The objective problem is that we are not listening to lord skiptrace 
sly warren
I've never claimed to be an all knowing deity.
floral lake
Most people might be better with lighter mice, but then again there's some that has to have em heavy
I know you follow the books of facts and stuff, but sometimes actually listening to what someone needs is a good way to actually recommend someone something
queen sigil
I've never claimed to be an all knowing deity.
sure as hell act like it
floral lake
^
sly warren
No? I simply state facts.
queen sigil
and refuse to take in other ones
tight pulsar
don't these kinda contradict
sly warren
No.
Because it's a Fact that people's hands have different shapes
Therefore there will be an objectively better fit for every person
floral lake
I still remember when you told rommy to get a dac and wired headphones after she asked for the best choice for wireless earbuds
floral lake
Was that too hard to suggest? I can't really understand
sly warren
I don't recall doing that. But, Under 50 there's basically like, no options for TWS
queen sigil
he has trouble realizing that people want anything besides pure audio quality
sorry bout that
floral lake
Yeeeah, sadly
sly warren
Why care about anything else. It's a thing that generates sound, it should generate the best sound possible.
floral lake
Everyone needs audiophile audio quality apparently
If money doesn't allow it might as well make some sacrifices
Unless it's so limiting
queen sigil
Why care about anything else. It's a thing that generates sound, it should gener...
ikr, we are all basement dwellers who never go outside
sly warren
I mean, I'm not.
But, still you can still have the best sound you can, while also not being an audiophile.
I mean, what happens when the buds run out of charge, but you still want to listen?
queen sigil
literally just dont listen to skiptrace unless you want exactally what he recommends
sly warren
Wired > Wireless in like 90% of situations
The other 10% is when restrictions are imposed by work.
Or you need exercise gear.
split nimbus
I've never claimed to be an all knowing deity.
You act like you are
queen sigil
im getting 100$ IEMs but im still just gonna wear wireless ones
theyre just nore convenient
split nimbus
Why care about anything else. It's a thing that generates sound, it should gener...
Define best sound
queen sigil
i could care less about sound quality when im literally outside
sly warren
Define best sound
That's... A Really loaded question. Because everyone's ears are different. Some people can't listen to Harman, some people can't listen to Diffuse Field.
split nimbus
So there is no objectivity?
queen sigil
sly warren
There is still objectivity, in the quality of the device itself.
All TWS IEMs are objectively going to generate a lower quality sound than Wired.
It's just the nature of Bluetooth.
split nimbus
Yeah skip, tell us about what makes it sound good
queen sigil
bob goin off
sly warren
No Noise floor should be present.
It should be dead silent if you are not listening to anything.
split nimbus
That's impossible to achieve, so why should I care?
sly warren
You should strive to get as low as possible though, so the noise floor doesn't impede on the audio.
Like most TWS does.
split nimbus
So I should buy closed back?
After all, open back will let in more environmental noise
west hornet
i need to get a pair of closed back
sly warren
You should realistically have both Open and Closed back. To deal with environmental factors.
But you are trying to not deal in a vaccum
To try and trap me
split nimbus
Well no, I wouldn't be able to hear anything in a vacuum
split nimbus
What defines clarity?
west hornet
noise floor nowadays isn't much of a problem in headphones, it only really starts to become very noticable in wireless headphones especially with anc, or electrical interference
glad yarrow
@split nimbus i love you.
sly warren
What defines clarity?
Being able to hear every part of the track. Bass, Treble, Mids, all of the instruments and Vocals without any of them clashing.
split nimbus
Define clashing
glad yarrow
If discord let me add more than 32 characters to my username I would add urs
split nimbus
So what makes it sound good? I can play clashing pitches on any pair of headphones
sly warren
Should Not need to. It's a basic word, you can look at the definition of it and understand what it means.
sly warren
Nobody plays single tones.
Ok, maybe some EDM artist plays single Xhz tones
But, most music isnt down to "play a tone at X hz for Y duration"
split nimbus
That's actually a pretty big part of music
glad yarrow
^
sly warren
Uhhh.... No?
glad yarrow
Yes.
west hornet
repeat repeat repeat
split nimbus
You're talking to a professionally trained orchestral violinist right now
sly warren
I've literally NEVER heard any of my musically talented friends say anything about tones at a specific hz range. Most of them are guitar, bass, and drum players.
split nimbus
Playing the right notes at the right time is kinda a big thing
west hornet
i may not be professional but i am beginner violinist xD
little crater
You're talking to a professionally trained orchestral violinist right now
but i think he means in the actual creation of analog audio
glad yarrow
As someone who has a certificate in both classical and pop vocals and know the guitar fairly well I can confirm that bob is correct
little crater
its not like a midi file
split nimbus
You heard of A440?
little crater
in music production, yeah you could think of it that way
sly warren
^
glad yarrow
Yes, but nobody thinks of Notes as a specific hz range.
Think of em however you want lol. Doesn't change the fact that they are exactly that lol.
west hornet
sine wave
little crater
yall are talking about two different things
sly warren
Music production definitely looks at the Hz range side of the music. But, the musicians themselves simply think of them in terms of the Note Scale.
split nimbus
Point is, any headphones can play clashing sounds if they're playing clashing sounds
west hornet
there are some song that could have just one sine wave playing but it's usually in background
split nimbus
Aight, now what's soundstaging? Should I buy 7.1 headphones?
sly warren
sigh
west hornet
inhales
split nimbus
C'mon skip, surely you who knows so much about audio can pin down what makes audio sound good
Surely it's not all just arbitrary fuzzy terms
west hornet
isn't that the headset ltt tested however long ago
sly warren
No. 7.1 headphones use phasing tricks to generate a fake 7.1 effect that is nowhere near the real effects of having 7 speakers and a subwoofer properly positioned in a room with proper acoustic damping.
sly warren
Soundstaging in... terms that most people can understand is the effect of sounds being in different places in space.
glad yarrow
Tiamat best headphones then right skiptrace?
split nimbus
There is no technical reason preventing you from creating an exact replica of a full sound setup in headphones
sly warren
No.
glad yarrow
No beating em
sly warren
Because they are not well designed in the first place.
You can't simply cram 7 drivers and a sub in a headphone
split nimbus
Sure you can
west hornet
even headsets with the physical drivers for 7.1 have just not been very good. maybe in the future will be better who knows for rn headphones with good imaging > 7.1 headphones
sly warren
^
little crater
Sure you can
not worth it tho
split nimbus
There's no reason there can't make a good 7.1 headphone, it just might be that no one has made one yet
little crater
There's no reason there can't make a good 7.1 headphone, it just might be that n...
no one would buy it
glad yarrow
You can't simply cram 7 drivers and a sub in a headphone
But wont that provide the best, how do I say this? "Soundstaging in... terms that most people can understand is the effect of sounds being in different places in space."
little crater
because it wouldnt be better than stereo
split nimbus
because it wouldnt be better than stereo
Why not? It could be